Blurry Creatures - EP: 109 Mt. Hermon and the Nephilim with Dr. Laura Sanger

Episode Date: June 7, 2022

Dr. Laura Sanger is back. She returns to the Blurryverse to unpack the literal epicenter of it all, Mt. Hermon. This mountain continues to show up across the arc of our show and Laura has some significant findings of her own to reveal. Described as the most defiled place on earth, Hermon was ground zero for the act of rebellion against God's creation by the Watchers of Genesis 6. What still goes on in or around this mountain? Is there some spiritual significance to this part of the world? Why are mountains so important in the biblical narrative and how do they relate to high places? Join us on a journey back to the beginning, as we delve into the mountain, the significance, the region, and the history of the angelic obsession with this location.  guest: https://nolongerenslaved.com contact: [e-mail] Socials instagram.com/blurrycreatures facebook.com/blurrycreatures twitter.com/blurrycreatures Music Kyle Monroe: tinytaperoom.com Aaron Green: https://www.instagram.com/aaronkgreen/ Mastering: ironwingstudios.com Outro Song: timecop1983.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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You know, it was known to the ancients, as we've said, as the gates of hell. It's the portal to the netherworld. On that day, I believe Jesus closed that portal. And that was really important in this cosmic history. Hey, welcome to the Blurryverse, blurry creatures podcast. We talk about creatures on this podcast if this is your first time with us. you're jumping into the deep end with Dr. Laura Sanger. Dr. Laura wrote a book about the Nephilim and tied its roots to the Fed.

And she's awesome. And she doesn't mess around, so she drops the knowledge on all of us. And so if this is your first time, maybe go back and listen to some other episodes. But we want to figure out where these creatures come from. In order to do that, we've got to go back to Ground Zero, which is Mount Herman. And that's what we're doing today. We're talking about Mount Herman, the place where these entities defiled creation, and all kinds of weird stuff spawned out of it.

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Get involved with blurry creatures tonight. interactive podcast with Dr. Jed Burton for gold members and all kinds of good stuff. So go to blurrycreatures.com slash members and let's get on to Laura Sanger. The history of our earth is so different from what we can imagine. The Smithsonian that if they found out about a large skeleton somewhere was to go get it. I'm going to assume at least one person is right because if one person's right at bust the paradigm, It all goes back to the fallen chair. And the problem with the modern day church,

they have a very truncated view of the supernatural. This backdrop is just pregnant with all kinds of meaning associated with this Mount Hermon event. And this guy defects from the kingdom. That's a big deal. Nate, your hair looks wonderful, by the way. Yeah, I got to get a haircut. I'm actually going to haircut right after this.

You should just let the back grow out and be very much our on brand for us. What do you think, Dr. Lur, should I think you should? There you go. It's the, part of the aesthetic, it's coming back. It is coming back, actually. All the kids are doing it. They are.

My son's soccer team, half of them have mullets. It's so awesome. It's not ironic either. It's the unironic mullet where they're just, the kids think it's cool. Right. And I think Morgan Wallen got everybody back into the mullet, that or NASCAR where it never left. Yeah, podcasting doesn't work out. Get the mullet and join the WWF, Luke.

I mean, you know, I get the gym. Welcome back to the show, Dr. Laura Sanger. We feel like we're good friends. We're just making jokes and laughing. We say this all the time on the show. We've grown a community here, and it feels like I'm texting people who come on the show. We're friends, and it's a cool space, and I really enjoy that it feels like it's more than just a podcast. It's more than just Luke and I trying to get blurry creatures going somewhere.

It's like a family. It's a community. and you're a big part of it. And we just did our birthright conference. And I can't tell you how many people came up to me and said, I love Dr. Laura. You've got to do BlurieCon and she has to come. And I'm like, okay, I'll text her. I'll see how she's.

It's crazy. People love you. And we appreciate you coming on our show every time you come. You have something new to share. And I know we're going to talk about Mount Herman today, which is Blurry Ground Zero. It is. Right. So welcome back.

to the show. Dr. Laura. Thank you. It's always great to be with you guys. So thanks for inviting me. Dr. Laura, we love having you back on the show. In fact, the Kazarian episode is like, it's taken off. I mean, it is vying for the most downloaded episode in our catalog.

So that is cool. And I know that that was a really interesting, you know, you really felt like that was the time to talk about it. And I think you were hearing correctly because it's, people are very interested in I don't know if you know this, Luke, but Dr. Laura's blowing up. She's, she's a big deal now. She's, we're having a hard time getting her on our show now. She's on all these shows. All right, just talking about the Fed, you know. She's on the, she's big time. She's all over the YouTube, the rumble.

We love it. Laura, don't forget us little guys here on Blurray Creatures. Oh, never, never. All right. I'm the same person, so. We love it. We love seeing people succeed in this space, and we love helping people grow and it's just that's what we do we just we love being part of tim's conference or just happy to be there and i love this space it's so different than the music industry people are so they want everyone to do well they want the truth to get out and that's that's the bottom line it's not about personal goals or whatever it's just what's going on in our world it's getting crazier by the day let's get the truth out there right yeah yeah and luke and i are just happy to be in the fight and

happy to have some kind of mouthpiece in this weird world and every day it grows and we're making friends and we just love it. So, yeah, all we want out of this lore is a DeLorean. That's just, I think it's a really small ass. It's all we want. That's right. We're going to get a, we're going for a Deloria. That's right. Oh, then me and Nate will have joint custody. It was not a big I could just see it. We'll just drive around with Bigfoot in the back seat and, and, just like Harrigan and Henderson's modern edition. I love it. But, uh, yeah, we talked to, We did a member's episode about Mount Herman. It's funny, I was actually just updating our intro, and I did a video for our intro,

and I was trying to find all this footage on Mount Herman. And I was looking at drone footage at Mount Herman. There's some ruins on top of Mount Herman. And I was just getting a full tour because I was trying to download all these videos and splice it all together and make our intro of our YouTube have a little spice. And some interesting stuff on top of Mount Herman. Sure. And for sure, it's, you know, we talk a lot about how.

You know, the book of Enoch says this is where it all started. And we're always looking for more clues. How did this all happen? And the blurry creatures that sort of spawned out of this event that people still see today. So that's, we can't get enough of Mount Herman, I guess. That's right. Ground Zero, as you mentioned. Yeah.

What have you found, Laura? What are some things that you discovered about Mount Herman that two dummies over here don't know about? Well, it's interesting. You know, our last episode, I talked about how I really felt like it was the timing of the Lord to release the connection between the Khazarians and the Edomites and the Nephilim agenda and Ukraine, how that all ties together. And similarly, I feel like there's a particular timing that the Lord has for us diving deeper into Mount Herman because probably a couple of weeks before you reached out to me, Nate, recently, I kept feeling this nudge by the Holy Spirit to dig into Mount Herman. Hermann. I did, of course, in my book, but I felt like the Lord's like, no, you need to go deeper. Keep going. Keep going. And so I think it's really important for us to understand Mount Herman, because as we say, it's, you know, it's ground zero in this seed war. This is where the Nephlam

agenda was launched from. And I really believe what God wants to unpack for us is this understanding of battle strategy that he has for us. And so as we look at Mount Herman, hopefully that's what will come forward is that we understand not just, you know, what happened in the days of Noah, but what is taken place on Mount Herman all throughout the centuries leading up to currently what's happening on Mount Herman. So when I started to dig in, I thought, well, let me just start with the geography of Mount Herman. And, you know, as you mentioned, there's some really interesting structure. So it's located in the Golan Heights. And, you know, that used to, you know, that used to. And, you know, that used to be a lot of to be the territory of Syria and Lebanon, or excuse me, it used to be the region of Bashan. And so it actually, it's about 120 miles north of Jerusalem. And it's this huge mountain. It's actually a cluster of mountains that has three different peaks. And the tallest is 9,232 feet. And it spans about 70 square miles. So it's just this massive mountain. Now, the coordinates are 33 degrees, 31 minutes north and 35 degrees eight minutes east.

And I'll talk about the importance of that in a little bit. Now, the summit itself, it straddles both Syria and Lebanon. And then the south facing slope is in Israel. So it's very interesting how three countries are represented right now by Mount Herman. I'm a skier. So I always like these kind of tidbits. It's Israel's only ski resort is on Mount Hermann. Yeah.

And then, you know, it's not coincidental. The United Nations has a base on the summit of Mount Herman at 9,232 feet. And they call this base the UN DOF, which stands for the UN Disengagement Observer Force. You might say watcher. Right. Observer. Watch. Hey.

Well, there you go. I don't know if I got ahead of myself. of there below, but that's interesting. It all ties together, doesn't it? And, you know, this is the highest UN base in the entire world. And it was established in 1974 when there was this peace treaty between Syria and Israel. Now, Nate, as you mentioned, there's all sorts of interesting structures on Mount Hermann. So there's something called Nimrod's Fortress.

Yeah, that's what I was looking at. All ties together, right? So Nimrod's fortress is at an elevation of 2,493 feet. And it's only a few miles above another structure that's known as the Temple of Pan. And the Temple of Pan is located adjacent to where Cessaria Philippi used to be. And we'll talk about that too, because that really plays into some of the importance of Mount Hermann and what's happened there. And then the other thing to note is that, so from this mountain, as you can imagine,

you know, it's snow covered most of the year because of its elevation. And so there's all sorts of natural springs that come forth from it. Well, those springs, you know, joined together and form streams that then become the headwaters of the Jordan River, which is interesting as well. So that's just a little bit on the geography. But, you know, like we said, Mount Herman is ground zero. you know, it was the launching point of the Nephilim agenda. And it's always been an important location in the seed war all throughout history.

And of course, we, you know, we learn more details from the book of Enoch than we do in Genesis 6. So I thought I'd read just a few passages from Enoch 6 because I'll tie in some things from this passage. And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. And the angels, the children of heaven, saw and lusted after them and said to one another, come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children. And Samjaza, who was their leader, said unto them, I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this deed. And I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin. And they all answered him and said, let us all swear on oath and all bind ourselves by mutual implications not

to abandon this plan, but to do this thing. Then swore they all together and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And they were in all 200, who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermann. And they called it Mount Hermann because they had sworn and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. So here we have this portal that was opened by the fallen sons of God on the summit of Mount Hermon. And that's why I don't think it's any, coincidence that United Nations has set up a base in the very location of this portal. You know, it was from this place that the fallen sons of God, they lusted after the daughters and men, and they were willing to engage in treasonous acts to fulfill those lustful desires.

And so, you know, I've talked before about spiritual mapping concepts and about the four different types of iniquity that create a stronghold on the land. And sexual immorality is one of those iniquities. Well, here we have this, this less that leads to sexual immorality being launched from Mount Herman. And lust is actually manifested in two ways. It can be manifested through unrestrained sexual pleasures, but also this intense desire for power. And we'll actually see, you know, throughout the centuries how this unfolds and how it actually gets reinforced. But the other thing that's interesting, I know I've covered this a little bit before, too,

but the Hebrew word for Herman is Hermon. And it comes from a root word that's Haram. And Haram means to completely destroy, to exterminate and to devote for destruction. And so anytime that God calls for Haram, it's because he absolutely disdains this type of sexual perversion that leads to the mixing of species. And so when he's calling for Haram, he's actually calling for Haram. He's actually calling for this holy war that will punish through total annihilation, all those that were engaged in spreading the hybrid race.

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New customer offer for first three months only, then full-price plan options available, taxes and fees extra, cement mobile for details. You know, one of the things we've uncovered on our show is that this is sort of, what they do all the time is they sort of take something and they mock it, right? They take something that God created and they twist it and they turn it. You're talking about the Jordan being the headwaters. if we apply this kind of logic, do you think that this is where maybe human like the Garden of Eden was and they're coming to that specific place to defile creation because it's kind of a mocking God like, oh, you made humans here? We're going to mess it all up. Do you think that could be a location for that? I think it's a very, it's an interesting insight. I hadn't thought about that before, but it would make a lot of sense because you're right. Satan does try and mock.

and pervert everything that God does. And so from that very place where life came forth, it would make sense that that's where he's trying to defile the human genome through birthing this hybrid race. So I love that. I might have to dig deeper. Let's go. Well, I mean, because we talked to Jed about how Jesus goes to Sessori of Philippi, which is the gates of hell.

And Jesus does the same thing. Like, oh, you want to turn this into this? Well, I'm going to come here and do this. You know, it's like this. they kind of go back and forth based on locations, and it's not just ideas. They're actually in geographical locations doing things. So I thought, when you said that,

I was just thinking, man, maybe Eden's there, and that's why Mount Herman is so significant of the starting place. It makes you wonder, like you said, is it, where is the cart before the horse? And it sits in the northern boundary of Israel. We know that. We know there's a lot of significance to that,

and there being the enemies from the north come there, and it's the farthest edge of the promised land to Joshua. It just makes you wonder, like, why this place, right? And obviously, this thread we've pulled, we've connected bail and Zeus to Satan and to the watcher worship. And then, you know, Penaeus and Pan, that is lust. That's, that's, Pan was the god of wine and sexual immorality or sexual freedom, whatever,

however they tried to spin it in, in that time. And it's just fascinating to me, this whole thing is, is interconnected. Yeah, I just don't think it's like, it's just a random mountain. No, not at all. That's what I was thinking. Like it has to be significant for some reason. Something else had to have happened there before they came down is my thought. Yeah, because why that place?

Yeah. Yeah, very interesting. Well, you think about it too in context of where it was located. So, you know, it's in this region of Bashan. And Bashan, you know, is this vast territory. And right now it's predominantly makes up, you know, what is Syria and Lebanon. but it was known as, you know, the gate to the nether world, Bashan was. And the aboriginals of Bashan were the Raphaim.

You know, we think about the most famous of the Refayem was King Og, and he ruled over Bashan. And he was a contemporary of Moses. And, you know, his territory included Mount Hermann. And we see this in Joshua 12, 4, and 5. I'll just read that. It says, in the territory of Og, king of Bashan, one of the remnant of Raphaim, who lived at Astra and Edry and ruled over Mount Hermon and Silka and all Bashan, as far as the border of the Gersherites and the Maccathites, and half of Gilead, as far as the border of Scion, king of Hesbun, Moses, the servant of the Lord and the sons of Israel defeated them.

And so if we think about the meaning of Bashan, in Hebrew it means fertile, like the stoneless piece of ground, but it also has a secondary meaning of serpent. And that really depicts what this region was. It was the region of the serpent. And we see that, you know, Ag he ruled from one of the cities was called Asthma. And that's another name for the queen of heaven, which was a fertility goddess.

And so more than likely, this was the center of the fertility cults, you know, within that region. Wow. I think we talked to Doug Van Dorn. They discovered a serpent mound right above the wheel of the giants in that area. Ah, there you go. You can see it on Google Maps. It's this giant serpent mound in that area.

And they talked about it. Him and Jud came on our show and talked about that specifically. And in fact, you call it as you bring up the serpent. And then here's this, you can see this ancient. It looks like the one in Ohio. And yeah. Which is clearly evidence, right? It's evidence that this was.

is the region of the serpent. I love that. So before we, before we go down those, those trails, I've always wondered as we do this show, do you think that the, the, when they made this pack to, you know, abandon their post and come down here, do you think that Satan knew, they didn't know, maybe they didn't know that once they, you know, get with these ladies, that what's going to happen? Or do you think that they knew, well, if we abandoned our posts and we start, you know, we take these women, our offspring are to be giants. So they just, they were just so full of lust that they had no idea, but maybe Satan knew I can breed out humanity if I can convince these, you know, these angels to leave their post. And I just, I just wonder always,

how much did you think that they knew before they got involved? Because it seems like such a crazy story to most people, especially most Christians. I mean, this is the thing that has, I think, so many people, either you believe this event or you don't believe this event. It's really critical in your faith. And as we see through the dark ages, a lot of theologians didn't believe this could be possible. But do you think that they knew sort of the ramifications of that event? I do. I think they were very much working together because, you know, when the seed war was launched after the fall of humanity, you know, the fall of Eve, what God's did was, you know, he launched the seed war, which, you know, the seed of Eve, which is humanity,

would one day crush the seed of Satan. Well, that was the prophetic declaration of the coming Messiah. And so from that point, Satan's strategy was to contaminate the seed of the woman, you know, by defiling the human genome and altering the genetic code of life. And I think that's where the fallen sins of God, they chose to become integral in Satan's strategy and leave their heavenly abode and descend upon Mount Hermon just to launch that, the defilement of the human genome. So I very much think they were working together on that. I think it's interesting that he didn't participate, though. They named these watcher angels, right?

And he's not named. He has no name is not named in that. I think that's interesting. And to your point, I think they understood, right? They kind of made this pact. It seems like it's like the blackmail pack. Like, if I get caught, you get caught. Like, we're all in this together.

so you know we go down together but it's interesting that like he we know that he that Satan wasn't part of it because the watchers then get imprisoned under the earth and he's still cast down and then tempts Jesus and stuff so he's not part of this and yet intricately it is part of the plan of the serpent or whatever you want to call him the beast the beast the serpent and yet he doesn't participate which I always think is it really interesting as well it's like he sends his minions or his his contemporaries to, you know, to begin, which then sets everything into motion, really, with, yet he doesn't participate, like, he himself, or at least doesn't seem to. Right. I think you're right. I think in the fallen sons of God, you know, they, in the beginning,

they're the ones that launched it. But I'll actually, you know, as I get to what's happening on Mount Hermone in the here and now, Satan is very much involved, and I'll share some of that. Well, I just meant like the initial event, like it was, oh, yeah. He wasn't one of the named, because we know that if you continue reading, Anok and you take that, that they all are punished.

Their punishment is imprisonment under the earth. They have to watch their progeny destroyed. And yet it's like his people, but not him, which I think is interesting. You can kind of see Satan like probably having conversations with them. Like, oh, manipulating them into, look at those ladies.

They look good down there, don't they? You know, like, he seems like the kind of entity that is a master. planner, he doesn't have to devile creation because he can manipulate the situation and get other people to do it for him. And we see that in our elites in the world today. Like, you know, they just have to dangle some money and some carrots and hire a bunch of people to do riots or hire a bunch of people to do this and that. And then, you know, it doesn't take too much effort to look into and say, yeah. I mean, and we've all done that ourselves. You know, we've schemed some plan and make it

look like we're like far enough removed from the situation, but it's the initial idea started with us and we get caught and a lot of people do get caught when they eventually comes back to them like oh you're the one you're the reason and it feels like i had this thought that maybe he was tempting them before they initially left their post but he knew well if they mess up humanity then maybe i can keep the messiah from coming it's fascinating how it all ties together and so you know if we think about back to og you know being one of the most famous Raphaim and ruling over this land of Bashan, Moses was actually called to Haram, Og, and all of his people. And we read that in Deuteronomy 36. It says, and we devoted them to

destruction, as we did in Zion, the king of Hesbond, devoting to destruction every city, men, women, and children. And I don't know about you guys, but in the past, I've kind of had problems with scriptures like this, like, why do you have to destroy all the children? And some passages, it even says infants and then the animals as well. It wasn't until I started to understand the principle of Haran and why God calls for Haram, that total annihilation. And so if we dig a little bit here to kind of understand why, why did this need to happen? And we understand a bit more about Og. You know, one of the things that I like about scripture is sometimes it gives like these seemingly obscure details, but then when you dig, you actually realize this is a really important clue that

the Lord is giving us. And one of those is in Deuteronomy 311, you know, where it provides the specific measurements of Augs Bedstead as nine by four cubits. And again, it's like, okay, that's random, it seems like, but it really isn't. It's, you know, actually unveiling these interesting connections with ritualistic occult practices. And, you know, I go into more detail in my book, but I think this will help us understand why Haram was necessary in this situation. And so, you know, a common cubit is about 16 inches, but a royal cubit is 20 inches. And so if we assume that they use the royal cubit because King Ag was royalty, then that would put his bedstead at about 15 feet long and 15 feet wide, or five feet wide. And some scholars, you know,

they say that Aug was about 12 feet. in height. Well, if that so, he would have been the tallest giant in the biblical record. But his height alone would not have been the reason for destroying all the men, women, and children in his cities. And so there's some interesting clues that I began to kind of pull out. One is actually comes from Steve Quayle. And he wrote an article on Og and Sion. And I'll just read something that he provides kind of this framework for us to understand why Augs Bedstead and it up in a city called Rabah. And he says, the Ammonites following behind the Hebrew army of scavengers, found the iron bed in Og's sleeping quarters at either Edry or Astoroth. They took it to Rabah,

the royal city of the Ammonites. There it became a famous museum piece. It drew curious crowds for many centuries, probably even down to the time of the Babylonian captivity. And so you think about, you know, here's this museum piece that's, you know, drawing all sorts of attentions for centuries. And it's probably because, you know, of its size and strength. But still, there's got to be more to, you know, why Moses had to Haram Og and all of his people. And then the next clue is from one of my favorites, Dr. Michael Heiser in his book, The Unseen Realm. He says, first, the most immediate link back to the Babylonian polemic is Aug's bed. Its dimensions, nine by four cubits, are precisely those of the cultic bed in the ziggurat called Antimanaki, which is the ziggurat most

archaeologists identify as the Tower of Babel referred to in the Bible. Ziggurats functioned as temples and divine abodes. The unusually large bed at Antimanaki was housed in the house of the bed. It was the place where the god Marduk and his divine wife, Sarpanitou, met annually for ritual lovemaking, the purpose of which was a divine blessing upon the land. So here, we see what Heiser is doing is he's making this connection between Augs Bed and Marduk's bed. And also that there's this connection to the Tower of Babel, which again links back to Nimrod. And then another clue is actually from Derek Gilbert in his book, The Great Inception. And he makes the connection in this way. He says, Moses was writing to an audience that was

familiar with the infamous occult practices of Babylon. Every year at the first new moon after the spring equinox, Babylon held a new year festival called the Akidu. The highlight of the festival was the divine union or sacred marriage, where Marduk and his consort, Suraphanot, retired to the cult bed inside the Antimanaki, the house of the foundation of heaven and earth, the great ziggurat of Babylon. Although scholars still debate whether the sacred marriage was actually performed by the king and a priestess, It didn't matter to Yahweh. Marduk's bed was precisely the same dimensions as the bed of Og.

Moses was making sure his readers understood that the Amarite King Og, like the Amarite kings of Babylon, was carrying on pre-flood occult traditions brought to the earth by the watchers. So herein lies the significance. You know, you have the dimensions of Aug's bedstead being the same dimensions as the cult bed used in Babylon or used in the Tower of Babylon. And so here, Ag is engaging in these cultic sexual rituals for breeding purposes. He's really, he's propagating the seed of the serpent. And so this, this battle between the armies led by Moses and the armies led by Aug, it's this

epic battle in the seed war. And it is precisely the reason why Haram was necessary. why they had to kill every single one of the ammonites. And that's because they had defile, or excuse me, the amorites is because they had defiled their genome. Now, I think on some level, Moses must have understood like how monumental this battle was. Because, you know, here at the portal to the netherworld, where Ag was engaging in these cultic sexual rituals to further, you know, spread the Nephilim and the netherland. and the Nephilim genes, Moses shows up with his army and he's representing the Almighty Elohim. And it's this monumental battle. And, you know, what happened is the Lord handed Og over it, the most famous of the Refam.

You know, he's 12 feet tall. And he's incredibly powerful. But yet God hands Og and all of his armies over to Moses. And not only that, but they take all 60 of his cities. And we see that in Deuteronomy 3, 4 through 5. It says at that time we took all of his cities. There was not one of the 60 cities that he did not take from them. The whole region of Argonne, Og's Kingdom and Bashan,

all these cities were fortified with high walls and with gates and bars. And there were also a great many unweled villages. So I think about, like, I don't know about you, but I take great encouragement from this story, from this epic battle in the seed war because here Moses, he's facing Og, who is this formidable foe. You know, he's extraordinarily tall, extraordinarily strong. He's got these mighty armies and the 60 cities that he rules over, you know, it talks about how there's these high walls and these gates. So it seems impenetrable. But none of that is too much for the Lord. And I just am encouraged because,

you know, here, Og, he didn't heed the warning of the haram that was carried out on Scion from Hesbun, you know, right before. And he just continued, Og just continued to defy heaven and judgment fell upon his head. And so I love that because, you know, the Lord is showing us that judgment is coming to those that defy him and defy the armies of heaven. And I think this is probably one of the most epic battles in the seed war only to be outdone, I think, of course, by what happened at Sessria Philippi. Amen. Jesus Day.

That's amazing. You know, and that's something that I think a lot of Christians have that problem. And I think something I've learned on this show, Laura, is that God has a lot of patience with his creations, but he doesn't have a lot of patience with things that aren't his creations, right? And a lot of people, modern day, you know, they read the story of Og and human beings today are just they don't even know that giants existed in history right so they read ogs bed and the only thing they can think of that's a huge bed and they think about well he was a giant but what we've learned on

this show is that the sacred geometry and the mathematics of these nephalum offspring they didn't just build random stuff they knew mathematics they built things to specific sizes and heights even the mounds here in north america they had mathematics that the native americans didn't understand and guys like Fritz Zimmerman tried to prove that like look at the math of these things that they were building. We didn't have knowledge of until, you know, a few years ago. So how could they have built this stuff with this mathematics? It wasn't even discovered. They didn't have some sort of supernatural understanding.

So the fact that Augs Bed could have been just like a portal. And then we talked to the Nassau Secret Society's podcast recently about sex magic and all the other stuff that goes along with that. It's like, oh. So the funny thing about the Bible is it just it drops what you need to know, but it's not going to give you 50 chapters of context. So that's the frustrating thing is because you have to go back and you have to understand what they knew. They understood that if you build, maybe if you build this bed this certain way and you do these certain things, then you can defile God's creation. But I do think that God is very patient and loving with the things that are created in his image. even when we're still seeking and trying to figure out who God is and we're not necessarily saved,

it's different when you, you're at a place of neutrality to a place of, you know, you're trying to destroy God. You're trying to destroy his creations. You're trying to set out to exterminate human beings from the earth. And I think that a lot of people, modern day Christians, they abandon the Old Testament because they don't understand this fundamental principle that I think all the ancients knew. They understood. I think it's fascinating too, Laura, that something you said is that we've talked about the Tower of Babel, and we've actually talked about Ziggurats. Those were meant to essentially be Stargates or portals. It was supposed to be the connection of heaven and earth. There's supposed to be this connecting within these ziggurats like Tower of Babel.

And the fact that there was ritualistic beds, and Nate just touched on this. We talked about Alistair Crowley, and he was doing these ritualistic occult sex magic. And what do they find in these Ziggurats, which are meant to be portals or to be stargates to connect heaven and earth, but you have these ritualistic beds where we know that they're practicing, as you said, like these, this golden age occult sex magic. And it's like, yeah, okay, this is what's going on. I mean, and we go to Raba. Nate, did you catch that?

We talked to Judd about Raba and the name for kings, and it's lineage back to the Refayim, and you're just like, there are so many things coming together here that make sense. And I think you make a good point, Lord, too, on the very basic level that, like, when God is sanctioning or casting judgment upon these people, most often the people that are these getting judgment are these hybrids. Are these, like Nate had said, these, it's the progeny in the creation of the watchers and their and their contemporaries then that continued in the seed war. And I just find that fascinating. The whole thing about Marduk and these ritualistic beds that match what we saw. and they were in ziggurats and you're like, dude, this is what they're doing.

This is what they're doing. They're trying to open up. These are old, this is old school CERN. They're trying to open up portals. And they're doing it. Yeah, we have such an elementary view. Like, that's a big bed.

It's like, no, that bed was designed a certain size for a certain reason. It's like we're so dumbed down to the ancient world and the occult sex magic and the things that they knew how to do. It's just like lost over time.

That's fascinating. That's really fascinating. Yeah, you know, one of the things that it did for me, because my redemptive gift is mercy. And so it's one of the reasons why I became a psychologist is because I feel other people's pain. And I am attuned to that. And so, you know, I know that God is a God of mercy. And that's why I always wrestled with these kind of passages before. It's like, God, how could you be so cruel?

And I've heard so many other Christians, you know, kind of wrestle in a similar way. hand, does it all make sense when you start to dig deeper and realize how this all connects? Well, the mercy's for his creation. The mercy is for human beings. He's trying to protect us. And these things were not. Right. And I think that's why they got their name, whether it's Canaanites, Amorites, Zamzumans, whatever it was, they had defiled themselves and they were like a subspecies of something that he didn't make and create.

And not only that, animals too, right? Centars, Nate. Yes. Sators and centaurs running around. What do you think about that? Not only were human beings defiled. What about the animals too? What about the other things?

Do you think that there was some sort of like occultic beds on top of Mount Herman? Like what was up there and were they taking animals and just once they kind of knew that they were kind of going to be punished? Do you think they just like burn the place on the way out? like, well, we're already in trouble. We might as well just create as much chaos as possible and create as many abominations as possible. And they were sort of just sort of lit the place on fire before they got tossed out. I think certainly the ancients involved themselves in bestiality.

And, you know, when you have that, that mixing of species that way, that's where we got the chimeras. And, you know, another example of Haram in the Bible is when King Saul was asked. to Haram the Agagites or the Amalekites. And King Agag was ruling over the Amalekites at the time. And that's the passage where it talks about, you know, not only did they have to destroy the men, women, and children, and infants, but also all the animals.

And I think that's because there was that defiling, that mixing of species, that bestiality that was taking place. Yeah. It's crazy. And people just have a hard time believing these. things. I don't know why, but if you look back in just all the creatures in just Greek mythology alone, just Greek mythology, there's hundreds of different weird-looking animals and you're like, I don't think that these things are to survive this long if people didn't see that stuff

running around at some point. Right. Yeah, I agree. I mean, we've had people email our show and say their grandparents saw Centaur on their farm and, you know, like in the early 1900s and multiple people saw these things. And so we still get these sightings today. And then obviously we talk about Bigfoot and how it could be some sort of defilement of creation. And the thing about God is that he is patient. I mean, you think about what we were just talking about a minute ago, 120 years go by, but before he takes his animals and his humans puts him on a boat, because 120 years go by.

I mean, it's not like, hey, I'm going to help you build this boat in about three months, and we're going to get rid of these things. If you think about how long that is, that's like a couple generations almost, you know. just for that one snapshot of God saying, well, I'm going to start over, but I'm still extending my mercy to you guys to maybe he'll come back to me. Laura, so what happens when Jesus comes on the scene now? Because we know that he does and he goes there. Yeah, I think this is one of my favorite battles in the seed war because it, again,

it happens at ground zero at Sessori of Philippi. And it's from the passage in Matthew 16, verses 13 through 19. And this is such a powerful passage. I want to unpack some of it. It says, when Jesus came to the region, Sessari of Philippi, he asked his disciples, who do people say the son of man is? They replied, some say John the Baptist, others say Elijah, and still others, Jeremiah, one of the prophets.

But what about you? He asked. Who do you say I am? Simon Peter answered, you are the Christ, the son of the living God. God. Jesus replied, blessed are you, Simon, son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my father in heaven. And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock, I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth will have be bound in heaven. And whatever you lose on earth will have

been loosed in heaven. So, you know, if we think about, I know you talked about Cessoria Philippi recently, but I want to bring some of the things that the Lord's unpacked, and hopefully it adds to some of the discussion that you guys have already had. But, you know, Sassaria Philippi was built upon this location, as you mentioned, that was Panias. And so it was this, this older city that had been established by Alexander the Great after one of his conquests. And it was, you know, built right where this spring that was associated with worship to the Greek God Pan. And, and, And, you know, as you guys mentioned earlier, Pan, you know, he's half goat, half man, this, this hybrid God that they worshipped.

And oftentimes they worshipped out in nature among caves and grottoes. And he was infamous for kind of this unfettered sexuality. You know, he had this supersized erect phallus. And again, that goes back to what we talked about with Mount Herman being the launching point of that lust, with the fallen sons of God. So here we have, you know, sexual immorality, that iniquity being practiced over and over again and reinforced from this place. And so it's not surprising that Pan was worshipped from this location. And I think the other thing that's interesting, just as a side note, I've talked about this in some of our other interviews, but they, they talked

about how, you know, if you woke up Pan from an afternoon nap, that you would be met by this angry, shrill. And so it actually would leave people panic stricken. And that's where the word panic originates from is this is the Greek god pan. But so here's Cessera Philippa. You know, it's at the southwest base of Mount Hermone. And it's the elevation of the city itself is 1100 feet. And it's built upon this rocky terrace. And so, you know, again, kind of thinking about spiritual mapping concepts, there are these altars of offense that over the generations are reinforced by continued false worship, by bloodshed, other iniquities. Well, this was the place back in the Old Testament times where the wicked king, Jerobon, he established golden calves so that the northern tribes of

Israel could worship bail from this place. And also was the place where the tribe of Dan established idols for false worship. So it's long been this place of idolatry. And it's really known as the territory of Bail, who's the Lord of the Dead. And so in Jesus Day, this was the furthest north that he traveled before making his way back to Jerusalem to be crucified. And at the time, Sessriap Philippi was so dark, you know, it was filled with all this debauchery that the Jews would barely traveled to Sessori of Philippi. So I find it so fascinating that here, Jesus was strategic and that he asked his disciples the question, who do people say that I am? Because he knew that the ground that he was standing on was known as the gate of hell.

And so here he is, he arrived on the doorstep of the powers of darkness to declare that the triune nature of the Almighty God was serving them notice. And I absolutely love that. I absolutely love that. And so then you have Peter's declaration. He's like, you are the Christ, the son of the living God. And that was a prophetic declaration that actually was layered with meaning. And so it marked this turning point in Jesus ministry and actually was the first time where the disciples had the revelation that you are the Messiah. And so we have from this point forward, Jesus focusing more openly, like teaching the disciples about his death and resurrection. Prior to that, you know, he was hinting out it through parables, but now he began teaching them

more specifically about his death and resurrection. And then the other turning point we see in Jesus ministry is that he goes from having more of a focus on the crowds to now he's focusing more on the disciples. You know, he wants to impart to the disciples, this truth and revel. because he knows that the time of the transition where the disciples will need to transition into that apostolic function is quickly arriving because he's going to return back to the father. So I find that fascinating. But then when you think about, okay, so the passage in Matthew 1618, you know, it's actually been

a very controversial piece of scripture throughout the centuries. And it's the one that says, and I tell you that you are Peter. and on this rock I will build my church and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. So Catholics, they interpret this passage as meaning Peter is the rock upon which the church is built. That, of course, gives legitimacy to their papal doctrine because they title Peter as being the first pope. Protestants, on the other hand, they see Jesus as the rock upon which the church is built. But I actually see that there's layers of meaning here to this passage because, you know, it's, Jesus is making this declaration, again, from Cessori of Philippi, which we know is the city that's built upon this rocky terrace.

And then, of course, Peter's name in the Greek means Petros, which is rock. So here we have in this moment, Peter, the rock, is making this prophetic declaration that Christ is the rock, the corner. or stone of our faith. And he's above all the spiritual forces of darkness that rule from this particular city, which was built upon a rocky ledge. And so you can see like all the layered meanings to this statement. And then the second half of that scripture, it says, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. Well, this too has often been misinterpreted because a lot of times what people do is they think, well, the Christian church is on the defense. because the gates of hell are, you know, pushing against it. But when you think about it, gates are not an

offensive weapon. They're a defensive structure. Gates protect. They protect a city or they protect a property. And so, again, if we think about the layered meaning within this phrase, here is Jesus. You know, he's at ground zero. And it's the place where the coup d'etat was orchestrated by the fallen sons of God. And so he's at this geographical location that's been considered the underworld or the entrance to the underworld. And I think about like this statement that Jesus makes could not have been more dramatic in comic and cosmic history. And it reminds me of the movie Braveheart, you know, when William Wallace yells freedom. Because what Jesus is saying is at the gates of death, Jesus is declaring that death will not have. have victory over the church because death won't be able to keep him in the grave. And it reminds me

of that passage in 1st Corinthians 1554 that says, death has been swallowed up in victory. Where, oh, death is your victory. Where oh, death is your sting. And I love that because Jesus is head over every power and authority. And the kingdom of God is actually on the offensive. We're not on the defensive. And we've been given the keys of the kingdom of heaven, but so many Christians don't live this truth. You know, they, they hunker down and they play it safe, but we've actually been called to lose what's been loosed in heaven and to bind up what's been bound up in heaven. And I love Dr. Heiser, he writes something in reversing hormone. He says, this isn't about who gets to be pope or not.

It's a cosmic confrontation with Jesus challenging the authority of the Lord of the Dead. Jesus goes to ground zero in biblical demonic geography to announce that Bishon will be defeated. It's the gates of hell that are under assault and they will not hold up against the church. Hell has no claim on those who align themselves with Jesus. He will reverse the curse of death and his own will rise on account of him. Jesus goes to ground zero to announce that Bichon will be done. Choice hotels get you more of what you value. Comfort in, it's calling your name.

Save on the stay. Oh, and free waffles are yours to claim. We'll direct at storesotails.com. I read that. I'm like, yes. And so here you have this incredible declaration. And then six days later is the transfiguration. Now, scripture doesn't actually specify what mountain the transfiguration is on.

And what happened in the early in the fourth century, a man named Cyril, he was from Jerusalem. And some of his writings, he actually just kind of mentions in passing that the transfiguration is on Mount Tobor. And he doesn't even explain why he arrived at that. And then his contemporary Jerome also kind of makes these statements in passing when he talks about, people that traveled to that region of Mount Tabor, and that was the Mountain of Transfiguration. And so what happened, unfortunately, from these two kind of causal statements, it actually cemented the belief among Christian tradition that Mount Tabor was the mountain of transfiguration. And it's really astonishing to me because it doesn't actually align with some of the hints

that were given in Scripture. Because Matthew and Mark, you know, they talk about this mountain as being a high mountain. Well, you know, and we have to kind of consider, again, the context from which all these, this happens, you know, the passages around it. And again, he was just in Cessaria Philippi, which was 1100 feet in elevation. And Cestria Philippi is at the base of Mount Hermon. Mount Hermon is 9,232 feet. Well, Mount Tabor, on the other hand, is only 1,800. 166 feet and it's 45 miles away. And so it doesn't make a lot of sense that Matthew and Mark

would declare that the transfiguration happened on this high mountain. If it was only 736 feet higher than Cessaria Philippi, it makes way more sense that Mount Herman was actually the mountain of the transfiguration. So if we think about that then, Jesus went to the very place the Nephlam agenda was launched to transfigure. to the fullness of the glory of God. And so his majesty was on display to the rulers, the authorities, the powers of the dark world, you know, those spiritual forces of darkness. And here is this cosmic demonstration of God's power. And it was a statement to all other deities that the one true God, Almighty Elohim, was above all the other gods. And so I believe at that moment in cosmic history,

Jesus reclaimed Mount Hermon for the kingdom of God. And he closed that portal as far as access to the fallen sons of God or the rebellious gods at that time. And that cosmic event actually led to the crucifixion. And, you know, his death launched the kingdom of God into its full force. And so I love how that all comes together. Yeah, yeah. I mean, and the watchers were often described as the shiny ones, right? Do you think there's some connection between Jesus, you know, kind of becoming this radiant light and that happening on Mount Hermann? Because it would make sense, you know, if these beings come down and maybe that's what they did originally to kind of draw the humans up the mountain. Like, look, there's some shiny people on the hill up there. What are they doing? Let's go check it out. And also,

another question is, do you think that there, if you look at the photos of Cessori or Philippi, it's like a cave to the underworld. Is there something, is there some connection there too? Definitely. Yeah, I believe so. Because that's where supposedly these angels are in prison, right? Do you think they're imprisoned underneath that mountain right there? Well, I actually, I believe some of the things that I've learned from some of the survivors of satanic ritual abuse that are from. from the Royal Bloodline. I'll share a little bit more in a minute, but they actually talk about Nephlin living under Mount Hermon, and they've encountered them there.

Really? Yeah. Wow. I mean, we hear, we hear modern-day stories of giants living in caves and Bigfoot living in caves and smelling like sulfur and demons smell like sulfur, and there's this underground.

It's not mythology. It's not, we didn't get these ideas. because we like to tell stories. We got these ideas from truth. Do you think Pan was a real, a real deity? He was actually walking around that, that people saw it and he was doing all kinds of satanic rituals, because some people just think it's just this story. Myth, right. Yeah, no, I do believe he was real. So let's talk about this Nephilim in the caves. I mean, that's, yeah. So I wanted to, you know, kind of draw upon those two epitaph, battles in the seed war because I believe what the Lord wants to show us is battle strategy

for what's going on right now, what we're experiencing in the seed war and what's happening on Mount Herman in the here and now. So I think Jesus gives us a lot of strategies as far as spiritual mapping. What he did here that I just spoke about is he went to the most defiled place on earth. You know, it was known to the ancients, as we've said, as the gates of hell. It's the portal to the nether world. And Jesus prompted his disciples to make this declaration of who he is, that he's part of the Godhead. And so Peter's declaration, and then you have this display of Christ's majesty. And then out of the cloud, you know, the father says, this is my son whom I love, with him, I'm well. Please listen to me. I think all of that set the stage for this epic battle. And so when

we make a declaration of who Christ is, that he's the son of the living God, there's power in that. So when we make a verbal declaration of that, again, that power, that deutomis power can actually destroy ancient roots of defilement. And then, you know, the transfiguration, of course, that was a manifestation of the Shikina glory of God. And when that happened, the disciples, they fell flat on their face in worship. And that gives us another strategy, another idea of how we can uproot these wicked structures. When we both make declarations of the truth of who Jesus is and then we also engage in worship,

we can cleanse the land of the defilement. And that's what happened. That's what Jesus did on Mount Hermon. He cleansed the land of that defilement that was ushered in through the fallen sons of God. And so from that location, Jesus put the hostile powers of the unseen world on notice. You know, he was going to reclaim the land that had been lost. And as I mentioned, on that day, I believe Jesus closed that portal. And that was really important in this cosmic history.

But there's something important to point out with spiritual mapping because there's some of those assignments that the Lord gives us that require ongoing prayer and praise and worship in order to maintain the victory. And, you know, portals and also spiritual gates, what I've experienced is there's a bit of a tug of war between the kingdom of God and the kingdom of darkness. And so that's why it's so important that we walk in that dominion authority that Jesus reclaimed for us at the cross, you know, through his death and resurrection. And we have to remember, Colossons 2-9, which says, for in Christ,

all the fullness of the deity lives in bodily form. And you have been given fullness in Christ to his head over every power and authority. So we know that we can have victory because we're ambassadors of Christ. But here's the thing.

If we get distracted, or if we turn our back on territory that we've reclaimed, the enemy just will encroach again upon that territory. And I think that's, that's what happened with Mount Hermon. So when the fourth century church decided that Mount Tabor was the mountain of the Transfiguration, what they then did is they made pilgrimage to that

mountain. And they set up over the centuries, they began setting up churches on Mount Tobor. And so that was a place of worship, which is great that it was a place of worship. But it was not ground zero of the seed war. It was not the location of the Transfigure. It was not the location of the Transfibor. And so I believe that they were led astray. And in doing so, that created a diversion away from Mount Hermone, where that allowed the spiritual forces of darkness to kind of summon false worshippers to reestablish the stronghold on Mount Hermone. And, you know, I think, Luke, you were mentioning earlier about laylines. You know, I talked about laylines. And I think it was the Q&A that we did with your members. But for those in your audience that haven't heard that,

you know, laylines are essentially the alignment of these high places of false worship. And so they can be thought of as these high places are like power points because they infuse the laylines with spiritual power. Now, another way to think about laylines is they're essentially like spiritual pathways that are established by geographically aligned. powerpoints. And they're reinforced over the centuries by rituals, by false worship, and then by bloodshed. So here we have ground zero Mount Hermone is a PowerPoint on a layline. And that layline is a 33 parallel. We know that, you know, 33, of course, is an important number within the occult. You know, it represents the ultimate attainment of higher consciousness. Now, it's interesting.

as I was doing research on this, I came across a number of sites on the internet that actually give the wrong coordinates for Mount Hermone. They say it's 33 degrees 33 minutes north and 33 degrees 33 minutes east. And I think they're just trying to emphasize the number 33. But those coordinates actually put you in the middle of the Levantine Sea. So that's not accurate. But the coordinates of Mount Hermone are 33 degrees, 31 minutes north. and 35 degrees 38 minutes east. So it is on that 33rd parallel. And if we begin to think about some of the other potential power points along the 33rd

parallel, it really starts to get interesting. So Roswell, New Mexico is on the 33rd parallel. And then JFK was assassinated on the 33rd parallel in Dallas. Then the 33rd president, he was Harry Truman, who happened to be a 33rd degree mason, he ordered, you know, the, the bombing of Nagasaki that was on the 33rd parallel. And Nagasaki at the time happened to have the most Christians in all of Japan at its height, not during World War II, but a couple centuries earlier at its height, there were more than 500,000 Christians in Nagasaki. And then some other powerpoints,

the Republican palace in Baghdad, which was Saddam Hussein's preferred palace, that's on the 33rd parallel. And then Disneyland is on the 33rd parallel. And, you know, that could be why Club 33 has its name. Now, I'll tie in some things with Walt Disney because, you know, he was a 33rd degree mason. He was also involved in the Illuminati. So 33 obviously was a significant number. I don't think it's any accident that he chose land along the 33rd parallel to build the magic kingdom. Now, Club 33 is, it's in Disneyland and it's supposedly like this highfalutant club that you have to pay some exorbitant initiation fees.

I've heard upwards of 100,000 just to get in. And then you're supposed to pay yearly fees of like 40 to 50,000. The country club. Right. But it's actually much deeper than that. So in fact, I just heard Jesse Zaboder did decode on Disney. And she was talking about Club 33. And it's very interesting.

So you look at the door to the entrance. So Club 33 is located on 33 Royal Street in Disneyland. And the front door has this oval emblem with, you know, the number 33. on it. But then flanking both sides of the door are these columns. So there's two columns. And in Freemasonry, that often represents Bail and Ashera. And then above those columns on each side are three stars. And again, that represents 33. And then what Jesse pointed out, and I didn't know this, but right below those three stars is a diamond, right where the top of the column is. And what she says is diamonds what that represents is an interdimensional access point.

And so what all this symbology is communicating is that you have to be a 33rd degree or higher Mason to gain access. And through this Club 33 are interdimensional access points. Now, once you get into Club 33, the main dining area, of course, has the classic Masonic checkerboard floor. So that's fascinating. But then another level, just connecting Disneyland, so Cinderella's castle is patterned after New Swanstein. And what Jesse says is New Swanstein is a Mothers of Darkness Castle.

It's one of the Mothers of Darkness Castle. And what she talks about is, you know, along, at different power points along the earth. There are these mirror powerpoints. So if a mother of darkness is in New Schwantstein and she wants to pull energy, she can pull it from a mere powerpoint, which would be at Disneyland from this castle. Now, Jesse described, that can either come from tourists or underground. There are those that have been programmed in satanic ritual abuse. So, Laura, real quick, what's the mother of darkness? Mothers of Darkness are part of kind of the hierarchy in the Luciferian realm. And so they are very high up as far as orchestrating

all the satanic ritual abuse that happens across the earth. Like high priestesses kind of? Wow. I have a funny story about Club 33. I remember I was coming out of the Pirates of the Caribbean one day and I was waiting for people to get off the ride and there was a door that went to Club 33 right there. So I buzzed. I buzzed the and I told him I was Justin Timberlake and the door started to open and then all of a sudden like I stepped back like oh crap you know to get in trouble and somebody was like kind of looked and then they closed the door and I was trying to get in there because my friend worked at she was Tinkerbell at Disneyland and she told me all about Club 33 and it seems sketchy to me but I remember the door like buzzed and then started to open and I was like oh man I'm going in here but obviously I didn't look like Justin Timberlake Luke but no more like Ed Shearing and Jesus here's the thing Jesus is 33 and he died and when you say Pirates of the Caribbean all I think I was Jurassic Park and he's like yeah John but if the Pirates the Caribbean breaks down the pirates don't start eating the tourists right I think that was when my mind started thinking about things like this like these things don't just happen they're not just random they don't

There's this knowledge that goes all the way back to Mount Herman. They've been doing this stuff since the dawn of time. But yeah, Jesus, right after he goes and transfigures, is when he starts to tell the disciples, I have to go now. It's my time has come, and he's 33 years old. If he's on the 33 degree parallel, that's where the creation is defiled. That's how old he is. That's how he reclaims humanity.

And the thing I love about scripture, Laura, is that Jesus doesn't have a scribe following him around making sure all this is outlined for humans to understand. There's some humility in it, right? What's important is what he's doing, not our record of it. You know what I mean? Like he's not obsessed with getting all the credit. It's just he's going around doing these things and we piece it all together later and go, oh my goodness, this is a significant location. Oh my goodness. This is a significant event. but I love there's like sometimes these things are lost in history and then we dig them up out of the ground. I'm like, oh my goodness, this is, this is where it all went down. And I love how God is,

even though he's reclaiming humanity, there's some humility in it. I don't know if you see it that way, but that's how I see it. It's not like he's got his whole entourage and it's like everyone, write it down. We've got to make sure they know I'm going to this spot and I'm doing this thing. It's like, he knew the authority. He knows the authority he walks in. So he doesn't need like a big entourage. He just shows up and gets it done. And he only takes three disciples with him, too. He didn't even take a whole crew on top of the hill. Hey, Laura, with the lay lines you're mentioned in the 33rd parallel, one of the questions I had is that we know 9,000 feet, this is the high place over Israel. And I wanted to ask you

about high places, because I know that on this show, we talk a lot about dominion and authority. And there is something very significant, not just in Mount Herman, but a across the globe about high places and things that happen or rituals or even like we talk about the United Nations having a base on this top of this mountain. There is something about high places. Can you explain a little bit? Because this is spiritual mapping stuff, understanding like the significance of a high place. And then this, because that makes a lot of sense with Herman being tall.

And you pointed out it's considerably taller than the other mountain that they've sort of, you know, pump faked us with being where the transfiguration happened. It's the high place. And considering, and I want to just ask you about that, because I think that's going to make sense, I think, on some levels, maybe why this place was chosen as well. Yeah. You know, it's high places are very significant, like you're saying, because they were established as these places of false worship.

And part of the reason why they were founded on high places is so that when people would make pilgrimage to it. they could see it off in a distance. And it was a way for the kingdom of darkness to essentially say, we've got this territory. It's like you put a flag on a hill, right? And you claim that. Well, these high places were a way to claim that this belonged to this false God. And, you know, all throughout scripture, we see examples of where God asks his people to tear down the high places. You know, I think about King Josiah and what he did in tearing down the Asheral. Poles and destroying a lot of the idols that were worshipped in those high places.

And so the enemy has from, you know, day one with the Seed War on Mount Hermone, tried to establish these high places. And I think there's actually, there's intimidation that's at play as well. Because, you know, if we, if we're on this high mountain and if we claim this, you know, then then we're greater in power. It just demonstrates the opposite of what. Jesus does. You know, Jesus walks in humility and Satan walks in arrogance. So, you know, even in our own valley in Salt Lake City or Salt Lake Valley, we have Mormon temples are built on high places.

So we've got them built on some of the surrounding, not the tops of the mountains, but, you know, the slopes or the elevations leading up to the mountains. And that's so that people can see them all throughout the valley. And that's on purpose. Yeah, it seems like a place of authority too. Like you build forts and like you talk about medieval castles or even like Masada being built on top of this mountain as a sign of authority over or and also it becomes a sort of a complete defensible. Like you said, you plant your flag there. You say this is ours. And what we're going to defend this also, we overlook all of this territory.

And so we by de facto have authority. I just think that's a really interesting just from a topography standpoint in Israel this is the place that overlooked everything and sort of would have had authority from a height standpoint or from a

defensible or defensibility standpoint it would have been this place of authority That's kind of why I asked my initial question about maybe that's where Eden was because you know as we've laid out in this episode everything from the number 33 to the location to the places that were built

It's like things don't just happen by random chance. Right. And there's so many more layers that are happening in realms that we can't understand. What about this tower of Nimrod that was there too? You alluded to that. Right. Yeah. There's this Nimrod fortress that's on Mount Harmon.

And, you know, it all links together. Now, that fortress was built. You know, it wasn't back during the days of Nimrod. But it kind of lends evidence to the fact that these false. gods, Nimrod being, you know, a representation of bail, you know, bail in the queen of heaven, Nimrod and Semiramis. So it just is another declaration that this, this land, Mount Herman, belongs to bail, the Lord of the Dead. And it's interesting, again, kind of tying some of the pieces together, you know, with with the sexual immorality, that, that iniquity that was launched from

Mount Hermone. Now across this layline, this 33rd degree parallel, you know, if we think back to Disneyland again, you know, I came across this interesting study. It was in the social science journal. And it was back in 2009. What they did is they actually analyzed all the 45 fully animated feature films that Disney put out between 1937 and 2006. And what they found is in nearly everyone, there was a tragic death. But then what they decided to do is actually analyze the content for child maltreatment. And so they coded all the characters, both main characters and then other characters according to their age, their role in the movie. And then also, you know, what sort of maltreatment they experienced. And they used the criteria from the U.S. National Incident

Study of Child Abuse and Neglect. And what they found is that there was 561 incidents of child maltreatment in the movies. And if we just look at the main child characters, 26 of the 42 experienced child maltreatment, which means 62% of the main characters were mistreated. And I think what that shows, Walt Disney, he was involved in satanic ritual abuse. And so his movies, what this was doing is this was normalizing the maltreatment of children. And, you know, there's, I won't go into much here, but there's all sorts of evidence pointing to the Mickey Mouse Club that, you know, they sexualized those children. And those children, a lot of them were involved in the programming of satanic ritual abuse. And so, you know, you think about that. Again, it's, it's along that 33rd degree parallel. And then if we come back to Mount Hermone and what's actually happening there today, you know, from reports, you know, from some of those that are survivors from satanic ritual abuse.

And these are survivors that are among the royal bloodline. They actually are reporting that Mount Hermone is used now as a place of high-level occult rituals. And so, you know, I've talked about this a little bit before on another episode, but, you know, Hitler was, he was searching for that key that would unlock the mystery of how Nimrod became a Gabor, you know, how he became. this demigod because Hitler wanted to become a demigod himself. And so in 1944, he launched what's been known as the Hitler Project. And it was the hybrid birthing or the hybrid breeding program. And it really was this full-scale attack on the seed of humanity from the seed of Satan. So again, here's another battle in the seed war. And so, you know, Hitler developed this trauma-based

mind control program that Joseph Mangola ran. And Joseph Mangola ran. And Joseph Mangala, was a Nazi scientist. He also was a sorcerer. And what they did is through this program, not only did they want to birth Nephilim, but they wanted to create the satanic bloodline that had the convergence of all 13 royal bloodlines. And so really, he and Mangalus set the stage for these multiple incursions through conception rituals. And I've talked about that before, but I want to add some more to that. So here you have these conception rituals that again began in 1944. And what it is is it's, you know, a pre-planned conception event with a royal, someone in the royal bloodline and another person. And at the same time as that's happening all around the earth, you have rituals involving bloodshed that are happening.

And what that does is it's all synchronized because it brings this converging. of power to the moment of conception to where there's this interplay between the spiritual forces of darkness. And that actually gives the child conceived during that ritual a triple helix DNA. And so that third strand of the DNA is in the spiritual realm. Now, the daughters that are born as a result of this conception ritual, they're born right into the Luciferian occult. And so from the moment of their birth, they are ritually abused. And it's so severe that they begin developing fragmentation and multiple personalities. And I'm actually, I'm in contact with someone from a survivor, satanic ritual abuse survivor from the royal bloodline.

And I'll refer to her as L because that's what she's gone by on other podcasts. But, you know, she actually talks about Mount Hermone being a place where some of these conception rituals take place. And also there is a mock birthing ritual that takes place. And so what both Doug Rakes has talked about, but also Amanda Byes, and then some of these survivors from the Royal Bloodline is they say what happened is that this portal that was on Mount Hermone that I believe Jesus, closed at the Transfiguration has been reopened from the iniquity force of six million Jews slaughtered in the Holocaust. So you have all that blood and that iniquity force reopened that portal. And so back to what I was saying about spiritual mapping and the importance of maintaining the victory makes me think. So if the Christian church wasn't deceived in thinking Mount

to bore was the mountain of transfiguration and knew that it was Mount Hermone. And over the centuries made pilgrimage to Mount Hermone instead of Mount Tobor, would that portal have been able to be opened? I don't know. I don't think so. Fascinating, though. And so, you know, one of the things that Elle has told me is that immediately after her birth, she was taken to Mount Hermone for a mock birthing ceremony in which she was raped by a Nephilim. And she's talked about having encounters on Mount Hermone with Nephilim. She's also had encounters with them in Antarctica. And she also talks about how there's a brief period in her life where a Nephilim was actually her handler. And that period of her life, she experienced unspeakable terrors. In fact, it's hard for her to even

put into words because we can't even imagine the type of trauma and torture that she's gone through because it's beyond what humans can comprehend. But one of the things, not only she reported this to me, but also I've heard other survivors report that when the royal bloodline children that are birthed out of this conception ritual, when those girls are 13 years old, Satan takes on human form and rapes them. And most often that occurs on Mount Hermone. And so they then get impregnated with Nephlem, because Nephlim are the direct seed of Satan. And this has happened to Elle. She's also birthed hybrids. And hybrids are when she is raped by a Nephilim. And so, you know, I just wanted to kind of point that out because not only are Nephlin,

being birthed and Hybris being birthed, but Satan himself is very much engaged in this as it's going on right now. And a lot of this is taking place on Mount Hermon. Now, she did mention to me that, you know, underground in Mount Hermon, like what we were talking about earlier, that Neflem live underground. She also said Area 51 is very active. She said daily with Nephilim. But then also Antarctica, New Schwanstein, and the Mothers of Darkness Castle in Belgium. And so you can see how this all ties together. And I just wanted to bring this forward because I know one of the things that God's called Meena Walk in is Ephesians 511, which says have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. And so I think it's

really important we understand what's going on in the seed war right now. But again, we can can take such encouragement from Moses defeating the Raphael, but then also Jesus, you know, his triumph over the spiritual forces of darkness at the gates of hell. Both of these were epic battles in the seed war. And we can take from that strategy. We know that, you know, Moses didn't coward, didn't walk away in fear, even though Og was this formidable foe, he faced the giant head on. And because of the Lord, the Lord handed Og over. And I want to encourage us that no matter what giants we face in our lives, no matter the size, the strength, or how powerful they may seem, we can have victory because we're ambassadors of Christ. And Jesus gives us strategy.

When we declare verbally with our mouths, who he is, that he is the son of the living God, that releases deutumous power that can. uproot those wicked structures and then worship falling on our face in true worship that dismantles the powers of darkness so we can be encouraged by that as well wow wow that's heavy it's it's it's heavy and we appreciate you telling us these things because i mean it all relates to the stories that we hear on our show and we hear little tidbits of of things that people experience whether they're being impressed by this stuff coming into their house or on their property and ancient history and modern day the elites and what they're up to and what they're doing to us and how we're all just brainwashed. I mean, it's funny how you start a Creatures podcast and the roads you go down,

but we appreciate you coming on our podcast and always dropping some of the harder stuff to swallow and actually like think about in terms of some of these poor girls out there that have to go through some of this stuff and it relates and some people just want to talk about the weird stuff and they don't want to actually absorb how these things I haven't gone away. They're still here. They're still trying to breed out humanity in their own way. They're still trying to create this war. They're still trying to, you know, war against what makes us holy in God's eyes as his creations of his. And it sounds crazy to a lot of people, but it's sad because that allows it to kind of to keep going and because people just don't want to acknowledge it. They don't want to see that it's

there. Yeah, it's not surprising than it is to think that like this is, you know, we think some people walk around, live in their days, in their phones, you know, going to work, going to bed and don't realize that there's the real life monsters that are out there and that are being created and that are being harnessed and utilized for various plans of the darkness. Yeah. And just take history, like Hitler wasn't just a bad, Bad dude. Right. There is much more going on.

Yeah. And you can see that. It was like Nimrod. Yeah. I had two more questions about Mount Herman. And I don't know if you know anything about these things, but we've heard sort of rumblings on our show about the tablets of the watchers. And wondering if that has to do with the tablets on Mount Sinai. And there's some sort of exchange of information.

And that they found on Mount Herman like this, I think Derek Gilbert posts about it, Luke. they found this like rock that was like carved into it like the pact of yeah it's not it's not it's not from the time okay but it's it's sort of some more contemporary but there's some weird inscriptions that's sort of like it's like they discovered there with a contract but supposedly there's these tablets of the watchers that people hinted out on our show i don't know i don't know you've come across me i'm not dug into that i do know at the uh nimrod fortress uh there is a rock that has all sorts of inscriptions on it. So that could be what you're referring to.

Yeah. One thing I did want to also say, you know, as I've, as the Lord has led me down this road, I had no idea from writing a book called the Roots of the Federal Reserve that he would connect me with survivors of satanic ritual abuse. There's no way I could have put that together. But he's got me on this pathway. And, you know, as I connect particularly with Al, but I'm also reading a book called Snatched from the Flames. And it's written by Nathan Reynolds.

And he comes from the Reynolds family as in Reynolds rap. And they are steeped in satanic ritual abuse. I am like I'm crying my way through that book. And one of the things that just fills me with so much hope is in learning about their stories, I mean, these are people that have experienced unspeakable horrors. And yet Jesus is delivering them. And some of these people, I mean, they have thousands of personalities that fragmented. And they talk about how dissociation is actually a gift from the Lord because no human is meant to go through the amount of torture that they've experienced.

And so when they dissociate, it allows them to handle. that level of pain without death. And, you know, each one has their unique story, but Jesus is chasing after them and is delivering them. And so that brings me incredible hope that, you know, in my own life, I've not experienced the level of trauma that these folks have had. I know that Jesus can set me free from, you know, generational inequity, from bondage, from, from things that oppress me because if he can do it for them, he certainly can do it for me. And so I just want to encourage folks with that that, you know, these women that are coming out of this Hitler project, many of them have come to know the Lord. And they are exposing this stuff for a purpose

because there are many survivors that have not walked that road of healing that the Lord wants to bring freedom to. Laura, that's what we love about you. At the end of all this heavy stuff, you drop, you become our in-house hope dealer. That's right. And just deal now. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, and everyone out there listening, you know, I just want to say thanks to Laura,

because I know that we've experienced just a little bit of it, but I'm sure you get it all the time of just, you're one of a few people out there trying to raise awareness to this stuff. And I know that it makes your life just more complicated, more difficult. more difficult because you're dealing with stuff coming after you. And if you start becoming sort of a mouthpiece for God, and they start attacking you. And I know you've gone through a lot of things.

And if you listen to this show and you like what we do, pray for Laura and pray for a lot because I know that people are coming to you and sharing things that are heavy and hard. I couldn't deal with that personally. And I know it's been hard for me in ways this last year. Just doing this podcast. I mean, you say you never thought you would connect the Fed, to this sexual occult abuse ritual.

And we never thought Bigfoot podcast would connect us to it either, right? And we sort of got thrown into the deep end here. And I think that Luke and I are just in a place in life where, I don't know, we're not trying to protect this brand. We're just trying to like tell the truth. And we feel convicted to tell the truth. And maybe some people turn off, say this podcast is bananas. These guys are nuts.

But I just don't think we care. And I know that you have friends and people in your life that have said that to you. And I just want to say, keep going. And we encourage you because I'm sure people say that about us. And we don't care because they said that about all the people who were loyal to God. And I just pray that those listening, if you're experiencing the same thing, like just keep going. Tell your friends. This war is real.

And the seed war is real. And this stuff happens. And whether you see a big foot and people call you crazy or you know someone who's been terribly abused. I mean, people don't want to believe in this stuff. I don't know why, but they just can't. It's just an uncomfortable truth. Yeah. But thanks for what you do, Laura. Thank you. Thanks for coming on our show. And thanks for just promoting us on all these other channels. We're always hearing like, oh, I heard about you from Laura on this thing and that thing. And it's just very cool of you. Yeah, we love you, Laura. You guys are awesome. We'll do it again. I'm sure you'll be uncovering some more nuggets out there.

That's right. I live in. the blurry realm. That's right. Yeah, we got to hear about these nephalum, modern day nephalum stuff. I mean, that's what we're, we talk about all the time. And I know it's sensitive subject, but some of these people, it's not a, you know, it's not for gimmicks to get podcast downloads. But we're always trying to figure out what the nephalum are and what they look like and how they move today and any clues of the blurry creatures that are out there. So go support, Laura. You can get your book. Maybe just tell them where you're, where they can find you. Obviously, if this is the first time listening to our podcast, maybe you haven't listened to a

previous episodes with you. But yeah, just tell our listeners where they can get involved with you and where you're at and your channels. Yeah, probably the best place to start is my website, which is called No Longer Inslave.com. And then from there, you can find my book. You can order it from my website or it's also on Amazon. It's called The Roots of the Federal Reserve. And then I started a YouTube channel, although I received my first video that got removed after 25 minutes. It didn't last long. I used all this code language and that didn't work. But anyways, I've got a YouTube channel where I started a 10-part series called The Impact of the Nephlam agenda today. I'm also on Rumble. So when YouTube pulls me, I've got all my videos on Rumble as well. And then I'm on

telegram under Laura Sanger 444 Hertz. So people can find me there as well. There we go. There we go. Yeah. Let's go. All right, Laura. Thanks, guys. It's great to be with you. Yeah, we need to get to Utah to see it, maybe during ski season. There you go.

There you go. Yeah, keep your eyes out. Keep your eyes out. It might be a blurry con at something more, too. Yeah, we're going to do it. We'll keep it posted. Yeah, and when you're down those slopes, keep your eyes up with a big guy, too. He's out there.

Don't go skiing in Antarctica, right? Don't go skiing through no portals, Laura. Maybe God will send me to Mount Hermone to ski. and we'll take back. Hey, let's go. Ski trip, blurry ski trip. There you go. With the 80s ski suits and everything.

A group trip. That would be a black diamond ski run that... Oh, here we go. That would be more blurrier than anything ever. Probably. I thought you were going to have some kind of clever pun there, Nate. I was ready for it. It's the 33rd trail on Mount Herman.

You're a fan favorite on blurry creatures, so... I'm grateful for you. Yeah. Keep it going. And let us know in the future. You're always welcome on our show, so thank you. Thanks, guys. I appreciate you.

Love you. All right.