Blurry Creatures - EP: 117 A STONE'S THROW FROM A UFO with Dr. Ben Tapper

Episode Date: July 26, 2022

The un-cancelable Dr. Ben Tapper makes his debut on Blurry Creatures in a wild and far-ranging episode for the ages. An outspoken force for the truth, Dr. Tapper joins us to talk about his encounter with the unexplained—an up close and personal sighting of UFO. While normally fighting against medical tyranny, Ben goes off-the-cuff about seeing a massive V-shaped UFO fly through his neighborhood. With yet another wild extraterrestrial encounter, we again are forced to confront the same questions: Why are mysterious craft continuing to show up across the world, and yet we have so few rock-solid details on the who, what, and why of these advanced vehicles? Ben gives his thoughts on these and gets candid on the necessity to speak out and stand for the truth in a society that has lost the ability to have open discourse and a free exchange of ideas.   Guest: https://www.thetimeisnowmovie.com Intro song: Massive Z- Metropolis contact: [e-mail] blurrycreatures.com Socials instagram.com/blurrycreatures facebook.com/blurrycreatures twitter.com/blurrycreatures Music Kyle Monroe: tinytaperoom.com Aaron Green: https://www.instagram.com/aaronkgreen/ Mastering: ironwingstudios.com Outro Song: TimeCop1983: timecop1983.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Listen, Luke, we know that we live in a world where everything is fake, fake food, fake clouds, fake news, everything's fake. And you know what? You get tired of it. And you're just like, if I want to buy a shirt or something nice, can I just, please give me something real. Quinn's is an amazing company that does high quality everyday essentials. So we're moving in. We're in spring here. Moving into summer. Maybe you need to refresh that wardrobe so you're ready for the summer, t-shirts, shorts. These are everyday essentials made from premium materials. Here's a chance to refresh. your wardrobe for the summer at the price that's 50 to 60% less than similar brands. And we always ask, how do they do this, Nate? And it's because they work directly with ethical factories, cut out middlemen.

So you're paying for the quality, not the brand markup and everything is designed to last and look good, baby. Well, if you want stuff that's the real deal, go to quince.com. Like we have got a whole fleet of new T-shirts this last time, man, because I'm ready for the spring and summer. I got 100% ring-spung cotton shirts. I got a couple flown-it shirts of light and area to wear around, work in the yard, or wear to the studio.

If you're like me and you want to get some new threads for the summer, refresh your wardrobe at Quinn's. Go to quins.com slash blurry for free shipping and 365 day returns. Now available in Canada. You're in America's hat. You want the goods. You can get it now. Go to Q-U-I-N-C-E dot com slash blurry for free shipping and 365-day returns. Quins.com slash blurry.

Luke so often, people email us and they have this story. They're out in their woods and they're looking in the bushes. What's that? And when you are pouring your dog food and your dog's bowl, that's the last thing you want to say. What is that? What is the stuff coming out of this bag? You know, I don't think a lot of us think about maybe what we feed our dogs. And that's why we partner with rough greens.

Most of us would love to have our dogs, you know, live as long as possible. I mean, I just lost my dog in December. And I would have just, I would have loved more time with Carl. And one of the things you can do to get more time with your dog is to feed them better. Dog owners don't usually realize that live nutrients, that their dog is, needs to thrive or missing from the food. You just talked about. What is that, right? That's where Rough Green comes in. It's America's number one dog supplement that you sprinkle on top of their food. It's packed with prebiotics, enzymes, omega oils, and 20 live vitamins and mineral support digestion,

energy and overall health from the inside out. It's all natural made in the USA and thousands of dogs are feeling younger, more energetic and healthier than they have in years. That's why we love it. I'm giving it to our two dogs. You know, I've got older dogs, Nate, as I said. And so, you know, since they've been getting rough greens with their food, I've noticed they have more energy. their joints hurt less, they're older. I mean, they were talking 12 and 13 years old. And Rough Greens really made a difference in their energy levels and the pep in their step. So if you want to do what we did, you can get a free jumpstart trial bag for your dog today.

Just cover the shipping. Go to Rough Greens.com and use discount code blurry. That's RUFFF Greens.com discount code blurry. Rough Greens makes any dog food better. For some reason, it just caught my eye and I looked up and I was like, oh my gosh. And then my wife looked up and we just sat there in awe. We couldn't even say anything. It moved like it was designed to be invisible.

It defied the laws of physics. I would say it was bigger than a city block. Welcome back to Blurry Creatures podcast. You know, your favorite podcast about Nephilim giants, Bigfoot, mothman, werewolves, vampires, whatever you want to talk about. If it's blurry, we talk about it. This week we're bringing on Truth Seeker, Truth Speaker, Dr. Ben Tapper.

in the medical world, but he saw a UFO with his wife and he comes on the show to talk about it. And then we get into some scenarios of modern day David and Goliath stories. It's a good one off the cuff, just more of a casual conversation. We enjoy Dr. Ben. What a good dude. If you want to sponsor this show, Blurrier Creatures.com slash members, become a member of the show. We've got a member's chat tonight. Tuesday, July 26th, if you hear this and want to become a member, boom, you're in. We're going to send a link in a few hours.

So yeah, become a member, sponsor the show. A ton of people in here. Listen to the show sponsor. We can't say thank you guys enough. You're the best. You get access to all kinds of exclusive things. And we'll be chatting with you guys tonight soon. So head over to our website, sign up, become a member, sponsor the show.

We'll see you soon. All right. On to Ben Taver. The history of our earth is so different from what we can imagine. The Smithsonian, that if they found out about, a large skeleton somewhere, was to go get it. I'm going to assume at least one person is right, because if one person's right and bust the paradigm,

it all goes back to the fallen chair. And the problem with the modern day church, they have a very truncated view of the supernatural. This backdrop that's just pregnant with all kinds of meaning associated with this Mount Herman event. And this guy defects from the kingdom. That's a big deal. Well, welcome back, Dr. Ben. Well, thanks for having me. Dr. Ben Tapper, the legend, living off the grid, catching fish.

Growing great beards, having great lettuce. Yes. Speaking the truth. Seeing UFOs. Nate, and you say welcome back, but I mean, our listeners aren't going to have the initial, but this is our second time around with Dr. Ben Tapper. Sometimes, Luke, we interview someone and they don't know who the heck we are. And then they go listen to our show and they're like, man.

We can get as weird as we want now. These guys are super dumb and super weird. Yeah, let's make it happen. That's exactly what happens. Oh, yeah, there's so many podcasts out there, Ben, and there's so many people trying to speak the truth. And, you know, it's a sea, it's a jungle. And we spent a lot of time editing our show to make us sound a little less dumb.

And we have fun. We have a good time. And originally you sent us a message because you were like, hey, I saw the UFO that you posted on your page. And I had a really good look at it. I could have thrown a rock at it. And, you know, a lot of people don't get it. get that close of a look at these things and or they see them in their way far away.

And so he originally brought you on and talk about that. We could talk about that again, kick it off. And then if you have any other crazy things going on in your brain, I'm sure we'll get into that too. But welcome with the show. Thank you, my friend. Again. Thank you guys.

Ben, you saw the same UFO just to piggyback on Nate said that Tim Albarino. Yeah. We had on Tim, Tim allegedly saw when he was picking up creatine at the local supplement store. He was getting his pump on. and he got a he had a close encounter dude right well so it was actually really weird because i saw i was just telling my dad about this story and i was trying to google images to try to find something closely that related to what we saw and you guys posted to that picture and i was like oh my gosh that's exactly what i saw and so i sent off a message i actually screenshoted that

what you guys post and i sent it to my dad i said this is exactly what i saw and i showed my wife and she was like, oh my gosh, that's it. So even she confirmed that it was what we saw. Yeah, you guys were just hanging out one day eating lunch. Yeah, well, I got a, you know, I got a burrito and some enchiladas and keep it with my dad, bod, you know, and we were choweled down basically at this picnic table, and it was like 10.30 at night. And we were just sitting there just talking, just chilling.

And we were, we lived on the outside of town. And that's, it was in Davenport, Iowa, where I went to grad school. And basically we're just sitting there. And I thought this bad. swooped down, it caught my eye. And I looked up and I could see this triangular shape that was just almost floating. And it was just, it looked like God made an airplane and just tossed it ever so slightly. And it was traveling, I would say, 40 to 50 miles an hour. But it was bigger than my apartment complex. And like I said, I could have thrown a rock at this thing and hit it. It was

just above the telephone and the power lines. It was just, I mean, just above. And it had those circles that, like those circles, but they blended into the sky. I can't even explain it to you. It was like this, you know, we have direct vision and we have peripheral. And it was almost like if you weren't looking directly at those circles, you were, the peripherals wouldn't pick it up. And so that's the best way to explain it because I could not visually see, see it in my, in my peripheral. I just for some reason it just caught my eye and I looked up and I was like,

oh my gosh. And then my wife looked up and we just sat there in awe. We couldn't even say anything. We, you know, I didn't even think about to grab my phone. I didn't, you know, I don't even think I had an iPhone back then, but it was, you know, it was one of those things where it was, it was crazy. Get the flip flowing out, right? Yeah, the flip home.

Right. I think I had the razor back then. Now we get some very blurry, some blurry footage. Yeah. Right on brand. Right. Right. Dude, I got to say this too.

I was listening to your episode with Travis Roy, which I thought was fascinating. And I talked to him on the phone. And so when you said that you did a podcast with him, I had to go back and listen. Dude, I loved it when he said something like, yeah, I'm trying to read this newspaper article, but it's long and blurry. I like it. I literally laughed out loud because I think Luke will get it. Well, that's like us. We're long blurry.

So it's good. I love it. Yeah. we, Luke and I never miss an opportunity to, to get some locker room jokes in. Dude, puns, you have puns,

anything that's mildly in the blurry, sort of inappropriate, not inappropriate. Mostly in the text messages, though, we can't put that on the show. Yeah, this is a family show,

so it all ends up being either cut out or... Right, well, I think we talked about that last time, too, the dad jokes. I love the dad jokes. Yeah, we have a good time. You know,

and that's kind of what we try to do on the show is just, it's heavy content, it's serious content, where they're talking, about Nephilim giants. And a lot of times these things are, you know, the stories aren't so friendly. These creatures are terrifying people. But we try to have fun at the same time. Before you see this UFO, though, I mean, what's your knowledge of this subject? Is this just like blowing your

paradigm at that moment when you're sitting there looking at it? Yeah. Well, I mean, I've seen some crazy things. And I've always had this like, this interest in the blurry, right? I've always like, just because I was fascinating with different stories. And I lived in the in the boomed ducks, right? We lived way out in the country, the tail end of the lowest hills. And we've had all these different stories of people seeing different things. And one in particular, my neighbors, they lived about eight miles from us, right? Now, this has given you a perspective how far we were in the country. I say they're my neighbors. Neighbors eight miles. Yeah. Right. They're my neighbors, right? And so, but we lived in most hills are very hilly. They're not mountains,

but there's crazy hills, right? And in order to get to their house, you had to go off a gravel road, driving a mile back, and they were like this one residence that was off this gravel road. And they lived on a huge hill, and it flattened out,

and then it went up again. And then this huge valley that was behind them. And nobody lived around this area. It was just like this hidden valley back there. And they were, I remember we're sitting in the hot tub. We were just kind of talking, and they were telling me that they saw this UFO,

in this valley one time and they said it was it they thought it was the they thought there was a grass fire and it was late at night and they ran over there and they had all these lights going like just going crazy berserk in this valley and it wasn't making a sound and they ran back and they told her mom their mom ran back out there and they just sat and watched this thing and I was like yeah right and I was like you guys are full of it and I and they're like seriously and so I went inside and I asked the mom I said what did you see in that valley? Ali over there. And she told me almost the same story, but her version of the story. And they said it was there for half hour. And it was like a light switch. And a thing just disappeared. Bam, like shot out to the sky. Like a blink of an eye at the speed of light. And I knew they were telling me the truth. So I had this, you know, this keen interest at a young age of different stories. And you know, when you live on the country, you always had this fascination too, the stars. You always look at the stars. You're always just looking for different things. And hearing different testimonials like that. It's, it's interesting. You know, so I've always had this interest in that.

Sometimes it feels like when you get that phone bill, it's like the crash site document. You can't read it. There's a bunch of numbers, random fees, vague language, stuff's blacked out. You're like, what am I actually paying for? I don't know about you, but I like keeping my money where I can see it. I like to be simple. I like to be easy. I'm going to be throwing away money on big wireless carriers.

You too can say goodbye to overpaying for wireless. Get a simple bill. And that's where Mitt Mobile comes in. So stop overpaying for wireless just because that's how it's always been. That's what you do. Mint Mobile offers premium wireless service for a fraction of what the big carriers charge. And you get to keep your phone number. Get to keep your coverage, most importantly. And it runs on the nation's largest 5G network. So the question becomes, why has everyone been acting like this has to be expensive? It doesn't have to be. Dr. Judd Burton's out there dialing up blurry every day giving us the scoop on what's going on in the academic world and the ancient world on Mittmobile.

Loud and clear on the job sites, way out in the middle of nowhere, Texas. And if you want to save money, just like the illustrious Dr. Judd Burton. Switch to Mint Mobile. If you like your money, say where it is. Mintmobles for you. Shop plans at mintmobile.com slash blurry. That's mintmobile.com slash blurry. Up front payment of $45 for a three-month,

five-gigabyte plan required, equivalent to $15 a month. New customer offer for first three months only, then full-price plan options available, taxes and fees extra. See Mintmobile for details. Choice hotels get you more of what you value. Comfort in.

It's calling your name. Save on the stuff. Oh, and free waffles are yours to claim. Book direct at storeshiltails.com. Ben, talk about like, it's this V-shaped craft like, like Tim talked about. Like, how big do you think it was? And did, I mean, you said it swoosh. Was there any, did you hear any sort of mechanical or like engine or any type of noise?

Or was it completely silent? We've heard all of the above sort of on the spectrum. So that was the most eerie thing of all is that it was so, I mean, the best way to describe it, it moved like it was designed to be invisible, both visually and audibly, there was there was not a sound and it just moved. It defied the laws of physics because the size of this craft was I, you know, we had three apartment complexes within maybe a block and a half span here. And this thing, it was bigger than the apartment complex. I would say tips on the wings were just on the outside of the apartment complex.

So like a city block? I would say it was bigger than a city block. That's crazy. It's like it's like Independence Day. Dude. Things like rolling in and. If I were facing God right now, he's like,

what's the craziest thing? I'm sure he would know. But, you know, if I had to say what the craziest thing I've ever seen, that would be it. Like that was, you know, one of the craziest things I've ever seen in my life.

Just because it was literally, it defied the laws of physics. It was so unnatural. I can't even explain it. It's huge. I mean, it's not a small craft. No. And how long was the whole encounter?

Well, like I said, it was very, it flew very, like I said, just so smooth. It was just gliding through the sky. Like if you just took a paper airplane and tossed it. And so, you know, it was traveling, like I said, 40 to 50 miles an hour. Just imagine you're watching a car drive by. That's 100 feet above your head at 40 miles an hour. You don't watch it. And you just watch it hover.

over the city. And dude, that's the craziest thing. How many people just didn't even know that thing was over their head? And it was just... So making a noise, yeah. I live in a flight path here, so I'm pretty familiar with having things fly over because we have Blackhawks and Hueys that I know are flying from somewhere south of me up to the basin. And there's a basin Clarksville, Nate, up there. And so for some reason, we're pretty close to the flight path. And so you hear them. Like, I mean, you hear him figure out and look up and it's pretty cool to see sometimes. There's some black hawks and some gunships. And it's pretty neat, right? Something I didn't even thought about until you. said that been i wonder just how often this happens where you have these silent craft and if you're

just not looking we might have things fly that if we're not paying attention or up there it's it's it's i was joked that it's like the uh the office where the preas is silent under five miles an hour remember like michael who's it was it is it michael who hits or no he hits somebody in the parking lot Dwight Dwight gets pinned but it's like that right it's it's it's quiet and silent it's It's pretty crazy. Eerie. It's just, you know, it's, you just knew it was unnatural. You know what I mean?

It's just one of those things, yeah. I mean, that's the thing about our show is that, like, everyone has some kind of loose experience. They saw something as a kid, but it's like when you're an adult and you see whether it's a Sasquatch or you see some kind of other creature or you see a UFO, then it's like, at that moment, though, it's like, okay, it's all real. Like, what else do I not know? So at that moment, you're sitting there with your wife, obviously, you guys can corroborate each other's stories and each other's feelings and what's the conversation you guys have.

I mean, you know, a lot of times in this space, a lot of the men will say, you know, my wife doesn't want to talk about these things. My wife doesn't want to talk about any of this stuff. But you're sitting there with her and she sees it. So it's, you know, at that moment, that's kind of a gift in a way, because if you would have seen it by yourself, it would have been a little bit of a, you're never going to believe me, but. It's like going out golf and getting a hole in one by yourself. Right. Nightmare scenario. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Thank you. Yeah. Right. Thank the Lord my wife saw it too.

Yeah. Yeah. What was that conversation like? First I was like, man, what do they put in this burrito? Exactly. Put some LSD in this burrito. What's going on? Extra jalapenos.

Yeah, right. Man, it's a good burrito. To be honest with you, I can't even remember. It was just one of those things where we just were in shock that that even happened. It was just really bizarre. It's just, it's different than like seeing a plane or I can't even explain it. It just was not from this world or from anything we've seen or experienced. ever. It defied the laws of physics and you just knew it was something so profound that you

can't even, you just can't explain it to someone. It's like trying to explain to someone about a car from 500 years ago like, hey, this vehicle, I can computers and all this other stuff and they have no idea. I just don't, it's just you can't comprehend it. Well, we have all this like history of like being 80s kids and growing up with these movies. Right. And you see craft like this and in your mind, you'd always just think, oh, well, these, you know, it's just, it's just Hollywood. fiction and but the more we do our show then the more we realize that like history like all the creatures that people talk about since day one it's not just stuff that people made up right you know there's there's sightings and encounters with this stuff that go all the way back so you wonder is

hollywood pulling from actual experiences that people have and maybe people in the know have an idea that this stuff is real and it exists and then they're making films as propaganda or they're telling us what what's going on and it's all subliminal what are your thoughts about all that i mean obviously, you know, you're in the, you're in the field of speaking the truth. So you kind of know how things roll in the back behind the scenes. And there's people that know what's going on. And then most of us are clueless. Dude, right. I stopped watching the movies because I feel like it just filled with propaganda. I feel like there's a lot of subliminal stuff in the movies. And you really can't control it. What comes out, you know, on the screen. You really can't

control what your kids see when it comes to these movies. If you're sitting in front of the TV, obviously you can control what your kids watch. But I think you're right. I think there's a lot of things that we're not being told. Obviously, I speak out in the regards of in the health field. And a lot of the in the sciences are being censored. You know, I speak out against a lot of things, especially when it comes to vaccines and whatnot. And there's just a mountain of information that's being censored and kept from the public.

And they just don't want that truth out there. And so it's, you know, I believe it was Georgia Welland that said that in the times of universal deceit telling the truth is a universal act. But my point is there is massive, massive, massive censorship. And that is not just in the health field. That's in all sciences. And they don't want the truth out there because they are so afraid of the, you know, indoctrination being uprooted because we are so indoctrinated in this in the theory of evolution that you know this is that i believe in a young earth and and they're saying that this is an old

earth and that we came from you know it came from nothing into something and that you know with the apes and everything we came from that doesn't make any sense so that being said i don't know if i answered your question but it's that there's science as being censored and it's not it's evil yeah yeah There's like an alternate field of everything. Alternate history, alternate medicine, alternate, you know, whatever it is, there's an alt. And we're, I mean, we hear about it from everything from how the megalists were built and the pyramids were built to Smithsonian shows up and steals the bones of the giants to a Sasquatch is dead in the woods and some government agency takes it and they don't let, they don't want anyone to see that thing. Every single avenue we unturn, every stone we flip over. There's that narrative.

if there's that thing where someone shows up, you know, the men in black or whatever. But what do you think these, what do you think is flying these things? Because we've gone extensively into that on our show. And we've talked to guys like Tim Alberino that say, you know, like, this is just what angels, the good and the bad angels fly in. They fly in this craft. Right. And he has a very practical explanation for some of these things.

And a lot of Christians just have no idea. Their theology or their understanding, they can't. can't fit this technology that they possess into their paradigm. But the more our show barrels on, the more it's like, man, they have advanced technology. I'm sure the government has some of it and they're reverse engineering and they're flying it around. But I don't think all of it is the government. And I don't think all of it is, you know, angels as well. It's just, it's hard to say. Right. I think it's trippy to think that. Like, dude, that's, you know what I mean? Yeah. It really is. It's, you know, it starts to get blurry when you're thinking about

You know what I mean? But it's interesting. That's an interesting concept. You know, that Bob Lazar seems so convincing. Yeah. You know, I think that's so,

I think it's fascinating to listen to him. And I think that he's telling the truth. I mean, you know, when he's talking about reversing engineering, these things, and he's like, I don't even know where to begin.

He's one of the sharpest minds of all time. And he goes into, you know, this scenario where he's trying to reverse engineer this technology. And he's just like, it's almost impossible. So what does that tell you? It's just,

it's really interesting. Unless there's technology that that's in place that's manmade, that we are just, that's been so compartmentalized from the masses. And we just don't know. That's an interesting concept. But it's also, I think that Tim's got a good point.

Maybe they are Angelette Crafts. So it's, I don't know, man, it's, it's interesting to think. Well, the sheer numbers are crazy.

You know. Yes. Yes. The sheer numbers of all these phenomena, the sheer number of Bigfoot sightings, UFO sightings, it has to be more than just a planned, orchestrated event. It's random. Right. You know, with the numbers of experiences like Nate's point now, whether it be UFO or Bigfoot

or whatever it may be, this sort of phenomenon, right? It's, I think in this day and age when we have the connectivity we have, that it's sort of impossible to really put a cap on any of the stuff getting out, right? And I think this kind of fits into sort of where you operate. I don't know how many iterations of your social media you're on right now, but the truth is operating in scarcity. It's a scarce commodity at this point. And so on that note, I would love your take on why the amount of censorship we're seeing

in the uptick and that and where you think this is going. Because this is, I mean, aside from you seeing the UFO and having this experience, your expertise when it comes to this is that you've been de-platformed and banned and shadow banned and again and again, for telling the truth, and you've been proven to tell the truth. And so something we talk about here is it fits into really the blurry space, Nate, in a big way, in some of the ways, or in all the ways, is that now that everybody has access,

and we have a podcast, and we're off this, we're sort of on this other platform where it wasn't available really 20 years ago, right? It would have been like pirate radio. Me and Nate would have been in our basin with a ham radio talking about stuff and hoping the truckers are listening or something, something like that, right? But now we have this flow of, of information. So the tool is censorship now. It's deep platform, it's control, it's censoring, it's trying to squash the truth, or at least free thought about the truth, or free discourse about

the truth from being out there. I would love to, from someone who kind of is walking that. We are as well, but like really walking in that. I would love your take on why. And your thought, I mean, there's a lot of thoughts on this, right? So we've covered a bunch of this. Like, obviously from a biblical standpoint, a lot of stuff has to happen. But it has happened over time as well. Like the censorship is not a new thing. This happened during a war two. It happened, it happens in revolutions. But like I just said, you could put a cap on so many things before because there wasn't this free flow of information that was sort of impossible in some ways to try to contain. Right. Well, I love the quote by George Martin. He says when you cut out a

man's tongue, you don't prove a liar. You're just fearful of what he might say. And so I think of the they're protecting a lie. That's why. censorship exists. It's there to protect a lie. You know, and there's a saying out there when the lie falls apart, it turns to censorship. The tyrant is the tool. The censorship is the tool the tyrant uses when the lie falls apart. And, you know, the end game, I believe, is obviously it's spiritual. This is a spiritual warfare. And think about the, if people knew the truth, and if the truth was truly revealed, how many people would start opening their hearts and minds to the Lord and realize that this is all spiritual. And so I have experienced this

on a mass scale. And all it does is it increases my, I would say, opens my mind to like, oh my gosh, well, what else are they censoring? What else are they hiding from the people? Well, what else are they, you know, keeping from the masses? And that's, you know, then you'd be labeled this crazy conspiracy guy or, you know, but and that's what they try to do. They turn to, they try to sling under my name and when I try to speak the truth or bring awareness. And again, I have nothing to gain by speaking out or trying to bring the truth of the people. You know, and there is an evil in the world that they don't want the truth out there. I mean, we were raising money for a documentary and they seized my, they seized my accounts. They seized my PayPal account. They took the money.

They seized my Venmo account. They, you know, the president called me out along with a lot of other people. When he did that, all my social media was deleted. in my accounts were hitting 3 to 4 million people a month. And so I've been completely deplatformed. And they just took my personal PayPal here recently. And no warning. So it goes to show you, why are they doing that? I mean, and they say that I'm putting out disinformation.

Well, let's have a dialogue about that. Let's have a dialogue. Truth, welcome dialogue. And when they say science is settled, well, then let's have a dialogue about it. It should be challenged. If science is settled, then it should be challenged. They should allow the challengers to come. Because if science is, if it ever evolves, then it needs to have, we need to have dialogue.

We need to have conversations. And in today's world, people are so like when you, especially in the healthcare field, they're like, well, show me the studies. Let me show me the peer reviewed articles. And I just laugh. I said, do you realize that's not really science? That's academia. And as people are just coming together and agreeing on a topic, that's not really science.

Science is observational, what we can see and what we can observe. And so when I see a craft floating, that's observational. I'm witnessing this with my two eyes. Now, we can go on theories and philosophies and figure out who's flying at what that is or whatnot, but really, it's observational science. In my eyes, you can't convince me otherwise. I didn't see that. I saw that with my own two eyes. That's science right there in itself. But going back to what the end goal is, you're thinking of the magnitude on this lie. If this could get out on all fronts, whether it's the corruption with the data and this whole pandemic thing, if that information can get out, it'd cause a revolution overnight. Or if there was a, if there was a, giant skeleton that was found and if they could hit the masses and if they could do and if all mainstream media would would show them on the TV and think of the magnitude that would have on today's education, today's sciences. We would literally have to uproot all of this evolutionary garbage and it would change the game of everything because it would, people would have to say, oh my gosh, giants did walk the

earth. That correlates to the Bible. I don't know. It'd be epic. It almost was like we're being condition, you know, like there's going to be some sort of, you know, we know there's some sort of religion that's coming, right? And so it's, right. And so I think that the evolution stuff is, it's kind of dumbing us down to whatever religion that's coming, new world religion that's, that's on the, that's right around the corner. It's coming right at us. I definitely don't think it's going to stay in this evolutionary, like, narrative for very much longer. Because people like, like Luke said, people are having more experiences, people are filming more stuff. People are tuning into our podcast and other podcasts like this.

People are watching ancient aliens and coming up with their own wild theories because they know, okay, something's not right here. Something's happening. My friend saw this or my friend's friends saw that. People are sharing, you know, all kinds of encounters. And the church, for whatever reason, is like the most, they're the snooze in the most. That's the weirdest part. Right.

It's the truth, man. I feel like the church is being sung a lullaby. And right now, the people, are starving for the truth. And I think that's that soil for the truth is is rich. And people are are really starving for that. And they're seeking for the truth right now. And so I think it's so important. So I love your guys's podcast. I think you guys are being bold. And even though you say, we're just a couple of dummies doing this stuff. I think that you guys are doing good stuff. And you're just, you're having a dialogue about these conversations. And I think that's important. I think it's

important to talk about and not be afraid to talk about these things. Because obviously we are seeing things like this and it raises questions. And I think the last thing when you do is write you off as crazy or write me off as crazy and say, oh, that's all just weird stuff because that's, A, is gas lighting and you're just, you're not being respectful to what they see. You just want to believe the narrative and be comfortable and put your blinders on. Yeah, man. What I think gets me, Nate and Ben, is that just maybe the sheer amount of propaganda and

conditioning that gets thrown at us, it just feels like. like you sow that and you reap just apathy. This is really been impressed upon me lately is that even when the truth gets exposed, it's like there's people are so apathetic that no one cares. It's just like they move you onto the next Disney Plus movie or the next thing on Netflix or the next story. And nothing happens. It's almost in some ways depressing to see that like, and I think the greatest example of this could be in this vein, right, is that we had the first hearing in 50 something years about UFOs in Congress and it barely made anybody talk, anybody say anything. The fact that this is leaking out or the truth coming out about these last two years and what we saw in the origins

of COVID and the things that are coming to light, all we have is apathy. Dude, right. It's like people are just like look over here and they look over here. Right. And I mean, that's what really worries me is that like when I'm asking what's the end game here. I mean, obviously we're talking about the enemy. We're talking about the enemy. We're talking about deception, right? But also we know the enemy hates the image bearers of God. So I know that's also hell been on our own destruction and death, right?

Like, it just, what do you think, and this is, and we're just spitball in here because I think this is great to have a conversation with someone like you that's been on the front lines for the last three plus years doing this. It's just like, what is gonna wake people up, Ben? Like, what is gonna, and Nate and I, you know, it's not like that we're trying per se,

like that's the, the MO of our show, but our show really, is to try to get the truth out there and ask questions, right? And have a discourse and talk about all the weird stuff. Talk about the stuff the church doesn't talk about, right? Nate did a great job of talking about our podcast. And it's like the church doesn't talk about the paranormal or doesn't address the paranormal and the paranormal community doesn't talk about the church.

And we're trying to marry those two things or doesn't incorporate the church. We're trying to marry those two things together and what we do. But my question is like, again, because just respect for what you've done and continue to battle, against this. What do you think wakes people up? What's going to wake people up? I mean, are people waking up? I mean, I think sometimes I easily get discouraged that we don't see justice.

And within that, people don't even seem to care. Right. That we were repeatedly lied to and led down this way. In all measures, not just the pandemic, but across the board. I don't know what moves the meter. I'm just sort of opining here, so I apologize. Now, Thomas Jefferson said one man with a courage is a majority. And, you know, what I believe in my experience, I went down to speak at a council meeting and nobody knew who I was prior to this council meeting.

I spoke out against the mandates coming our way and I spoke out. And I prayed, Lord, let these words travel far and wide. And I had all those conviction to speak. And I was down there and I didn't care. I just spoke my heart. And I was like a dog in a kennel that just got released. I went down there and, you know, and I had all these physicians that were there against me. And they had all this amount of time to speak.

And I was the only physician in opposition in the mandate. And I spoke out and I had three minutes. And when I spoke, I spoke boldly. I prayed Lord, give me the words to say. I prayed, let these words tell far and wide. I prayed turning into a lion probably a hundred times. And the next morning I said, oh, my gosh, what did I do? That video, my speech had millions of views and 24 hours.

And it was because I spoke boldly and I spoke with courage. And I believe that's what moves people. And that's why Thomas Jefferson said that, you know, one man with courage with courage is a majority. Because when you have courage to, in the face of evil or in the face of deceit or whatever you want to call it, when you show courage, it inspires others to do the same. You know, the Bible even says, do not conform to this world. And Joshua 1.9 says, be bold and courageous.

Well, what is courage? Well, we know the opposite of courage is conformity. And so the Bible speaks out against that. Do not conform. We don't want to conform to this world. Well, conformity is doing what everybody else is doing regardless to what is right. And that's the definition of conformity. But courage means that we are doing what's right regardless to what everybody else is doing.

And the spirit convicts us to do what is right in those times. And we need to listen to that, no matter what the consequences are, no matter if we're to get persecuted for it. And that's what's going to move people. When you are facing persecution or convictions or whatever it may be and you do the right thing, regardless of what everybody else is doing, that's when you're going to have a movement. That's when you're going to inspire people to do the same and follow. I felt alone in this fight for many years. I spoke out against it. And honestly, it was a burden to carry. And when I spoke out, you know, I had thousands of hate mail messages. and I had people breaking my home.

I had my phone hacked, my wife's phone hacked. I've had threats, PayPal, my Venmos were accountancies and all that jazz and everything, and I got called out in the media. But even though those are negative things, the negative few does not compare to the thousands of positives that have occurred. And I just know that we are on the right side of truth. We are on the right side of history. And we need good men, biblical men, strong men and women to make a stand.

the time is now. We are entering in times. I believe that we are, you know, we're seeing oppression now, but I believe that it's going to get much worse. I don't want to be doom and gloom. We are heading in interesting times, especially with Klaus Schwab. He wants us all to own nothing and be happy. And it's, and eat bugs and live in our pods, right? Yeah, our cricket flower. Let's bring that together. Yeah. So it's going to be, it's going to be interesting. But yeah. It's such a strange time, Ben, because I think back in the day, you know, you had ideas and you debated things. Right. And now it's like people are injecting their political ideology right into their body.

You have something to lose now for the first time. If you lose an argument, but you didn't do any research, you might lose more than the argument. You might lose it all. Yeah. Because you just, you're so aligned with your political beliefs that you'll just do whatever they tell you to do. And you have no autonomy of your own decisions, your own thoughts, your own life. It's a really strange time. And in a way, I kind of like, it's kind of like high stakes poker.

The blinds were low. We could just debate on Facebook for the last 10 years. But now it's like the blinds are high. Right. And if you go all in, you could lose it all because, you know, the game is interesting. And I played a lot of poker in my day. And this is when the game gets fun. Oh, look at you big shooter.

Oh, yeah. Like, but it's boring when the blinds are low and everyone's just, no one's taking any, you know, you're not actually pushing any chips out on the table. And then soon all of a sudden, it's like, oh, that guy's out. That guy's out of the game. Yeah, dude. Skin of the game, yeah. Yeah, and I think that's where we are in society where it's like, okay, do your ideas float?

Right, dude. Because you could be dead if you get it wrong. Yeah. And some people are just rolling their eyes. And I know that's a kind of polar, it's a polar thing to talk about these days. But that's where we are. And we don't get into that a lot on our show, but we definitely see the themes that you're talking about in all these areas.

Right. It doesn't matter. Pick one. Pick any of them. Bob Lazar. You have that Bob Lazar. spirit in you. There's a Bob Lazar in every one of these these camps, a guy that's just like, wait, what? They're lying to the masses. And they don't have that thing. And then it says,

follow along. Don't say anything. You guys. Yeah, you guys are the guys like, no, I'm going to, I'm going to hit the bear horn. I'm going to bang the, like, wake up, you know. And I do think there's a lot of people in the Bible that were like that. Amen. Amen. Oh, dude. It's not about being morally perfect. It's about it's about being useful in the war. Amen. And I think we were sold to Christianity. It's just like, just be morally perfect. That's all it's about. But you're never going to, you're never going to. Yeah, if you actually read the Bible, there aren't, there are none. Apart from Jesus that were, they were all a bunch of, I mean, abject failures, right? Yeah. Letterers and adulterers and liars and thieves. And yeah, it's. That distracts you from the actual,

being useful in the actual war against Satan. Right. Amen, dude. Well, look at David and Goliath. You know, and I'm going to tell you this. When I spoke at the city council, like I went to the restroom. It was the craziest thing. I'm going to say, like I had a vision, but like it was almost like I was daydreaming, like a very strong daydream.

And I'm like, I don't know if the guy was like putting that in my mind or what, but I had this daydream about a vision of like David and Goliath in the restaurant. Okay. And I, right after that restroom, like, I went down. And then my wife's like, you better know what you're getting yourself into. Look, all those cameras there. And it was like, I felt like David and Goliath. Like I'm going against this crazy, you know, giant.

You know, but David, he was probably nervous going against his giant. But his convictions were greater than his fear of the giant, knowing God is on his side. And he, his convictions were greater than his complacency. I mean, look at all the, the Israeli army. They were sitting there. All those soldiers were afraid, terrified of this giant. But they didn't have the faith like David and the. and the convictions.

And so, whom among you, right? Right. And the shepherd boy steps out and a giant laughs. Like, this is your best. This is what you got. Right, dude.

Right. It wasn't, yeah, it wasn't Mr. T. They didn't throw him out there or Arnold or something. No,

but dude, there's a shepherd boy. It was like, I think Mr. T would have done something. Yeah. I just have a feeling. He's a pity the fool.

Number one is what he'd done. It's awesome. No, I think what's impressed upon me too is that in our culture, in the same vein, is that we completely divorced ourselves from objectivity. And it becomes more and more apparent all the time that we are so relativistic as a society

that we completely divorced our cognitive dissonance from objective truth and maybe abject reality. That's all, I mean, in the same thing, that's why I think maybe it's so refreshing when people stand and tell the truth because it's the lies that we're told is like you speak your truth. and what's your, it's the whole Oprah thing, what's your truth, speak your truth. Right. And in that paradigm, there is, everything goes, right? It is the greatest picture of the world in a sense, as biblically speaking, that you decide under yourself what is true and false.

When the reality is like, man, you can think you can fly, but you jump off of a building and you're not flying. I'm sorry. Like, that's sort of like a crass analogy, but the truth is that I just, I feel like we have become a society so divorced from objective truth. truth that it's very much an outlier anomaly when people do. And it makes sense. Like in a spiritual sense, it makes sense that the darkness comes after. You become the useful, the useful shepherd boy. You know, all of us, everybody listening. When you, when you pursue the truth and step out, you know,

into God's calling and when he impresses on you to speak the truth and to tell the truth, especially in front of, in front of people, whether it be one or two or two million, right? You are, you're that ready-faced shepherd boy, taking on the giant that is, you know, is a society. that wants to crush, wants to crush you and your, and your life. I mean, we're going to be very honest.

It's, it's to the demise, to demise of us, us, the bear the image of the, king of kings. Right. Eternal God.

Yeah. Amen, brother. Yeah, it's, dude, it's, it's an order to have you back, and an hour to have you out for the first time

here on, on blurry creatures, because we had a dry run. It was fun. Yeah, it was, it was like taking the first, we're an 80s show, right?

It's like taking the first lap on the BMX course, and, you know, just feeling it out. you're filling it out. Now we're going for a run there. It's like the movie rad. The movie, the movie rad, right? I like you'd bring up David and Goliath been because, you know, you grow up with those stories and you think to yourself, you know, God commands this, this little boy to go out and take out this giant. Right. But then, you know, there's a lot of confusion in the church of

like, he kills him. And then he cuts his head off and then he takes his head back. And that's what he was supposed to do. But then we have this feel good Christianity. It's like, well, don't do anything. Don't hurt anybody. Don't speak out. truth. But it's like, no, no, no, this story is, it's like it's glossed over the fact that you are in the Lord's Army. And sometimes that requires you, somebody has to pick up a sword and take this, take these giants out. Right. And there's, you're not, you're not guaranteed safety. Right. That's exactly right, my friend. And I don't know why that, that part of the story just got glossed over. It was like a metaphor. Oh, he didn't really kill a giant. It was just, you know,

we have giants in our life, but it's like, no, no, he killed them. And, you know, that's, I'd hate to say it. I don't want to say anything bad about the church. But like if we want true revival, if we want to reach all the billions of people, right, think about this. Like our church is closed down on Easter. And, you know, during the Spanish flu, it were, it was the Christians out on the front lines, praying for people, not afraid, not fearful of this great pandemic. They were putting their hands on people. And if they died doing it, they were doing God's work. They were out there, unafraid, where are those Christians at? Right. And one of my great mentors said that fears the fire that fuels the furnace of disease. And, you know, I live by Psalms 91.

We had that hanging in our house in our living room. Like, you know, talks about like, oh, no plague will come near your home. Like, well, are we going to live by that? Or are we going to stand on that ground, that truth? And I've been through this like whole season. And again, nothing against the churches, but I feel so convicted. The Bible says, be bold and courageous. Well, I think, I think of like Joshua and Caleb when they're scouting out the, you know, the promised land. They were the only two spies that said they could take the giants. Right. And so it's this, the story is as old as time is in a group of men, there's always going to be some that don't have any fear. Right. And there's always going to be the majority, 80% of people who are

just terrified. Right. And they live by fear. And they're going to try to sway the church and say, no, let's live by fear. Like I knew my friend, he, a friend of mine, there was only one church in Northern California, they didn't shut down in the pandemic, and I know, and I know them. And they were in Yuba City. Yuba, baby. Yeah, where we grew up. I grew up in Sacramento. Luke grew up in Chico. We grew up in Northern California.

There's only one church that didn't shut down in that area the entire time. And I know that, you know, to use this metaphor, 90% of Christians are going to be like, they're terrible. You want to kill people? You're going to kill people going to your church, and they have this whole moral argument of why they should shut down and stay far apart of each other because that's what Jesus would want them to do. Oh my goodness. I cringe when I hear that. Right. Yeah. I cringe. And it's this, it's this two camps. I mean, I understand that whole camp of like the woke

Christians who think that, you know, it's our job just to roll over and die in the name of Jesus. And it just doesn't go like when you actually go back and you look at the history of the men who pushed the church forward, put the church on their back, the disciples, guys like David, guys like Joshua and Caleb. They were, they were fearless, warriors. They didn't really. They didn't roll over and die for nothing. And we have completely confused Christianity with whatever this rollover and die mentality is. Right. And I've done it a lot of my life.

And I'm tired of doing it personally. Oh, so it's like under oath said, right? They're only chasing safety. Yeah. There you know. Right. Or this illusion of safety thrice. Yeah.

Yeah. Right. Let's go. Let's go. That's not 80s, but that's our era, bro. That was the scene. No, I think it's, Jesus said that it lose your life in order to gain it. Like Ben, you said to be bold and courageous,

is the church is supposed to be a hospital for for sinners, you know, for the sick. Right. Not a place where, definitely not a Toney Robbins conference where we show up and we all feel good about self-help and everything. And like that, there's a place for that. And that's all fine in Danny. But that's not the church. And that's definitely not the message of Jesus.

And I think in a time where the church had a real opportunity to be a hospital, you know, for the sick, for those who are scared, for those who, you know, and also be a beacon. And instead, I think the vast majority, you know, chose the illusions of, the illusions of safety. And I think honestly, everything again comes to our initial conversation about the truth, right? It's like there's such a hunger for it and the church didn't meet that need. They didn't meet, they didn't stand in the gap and meet that need for the truth. And, you know, and I think that we can talk about this on a macro level, you know, even just in general with the idea that the reason there's a space for what Nate and I are doing here.

Right. However small or large is that, is there is tons of things that people, you know, people are people are dealing with, are seeing, are experiencing, and realizing that the biblical paradigm has a place for all of these things to be explained. And especially for those that put our foundations and our hopes in Christ, this is, you have to have these discussions. As weird as it, where does it sound? Even big.

Even the big guy. Right. That's good, man. Well, well said, brother. You know, you guys listened to your podcast earlier on the earlier seasons, man, I just going back to that. It's fun to listen to you guys and it's fun to have these conversations, you know. The Bible says that no one will enter the kingdom of the heaven unless they have like a childlike faith, right? And spirit. Dude, talking about like the giants and, you know,

even Bigfoot, like it brings us, it like humbles us and gives us like that childlike spirit. I don't know about you guys, but it does for me. Like it's fun and it's like it's fun to talk about. You know, and I feel like that's what it should be like. I have a great friend that wrote books about this and really just one of the main tenets of his sort of his point of view is that we've lost the wonder and like he says use the word whimsy we've lost the whimsy of experiencing god this idea there's this there's this wonder and even this magic and that's not the right word but it's the right word right in experiencing creation and god and god's presence and the joy and i know that we always try to Nate try to deal some hope at the end of some of these things because it can't

get so heavy and so dark dark yeah i mean especially you know we're talking about the direction of of society well that's what i was thinking luke when he was talking about some of the things you've been dealing with it reminds me of you know one of the plagues 10 plagues was the plague of darkness right and the church in the middle of the plague of darkness the Israelites the those who had the spirit of god they had light in their home yeah and so it's like we are i feel like we're in that dark time where people are so afraid right and it's when the spirit of god is on you have light and you were, you were shining in the darkness, you are not afraid because you know if you die, it is to gain. You don't lose anything. Right. So you're not afraid to die.

And the weird way, like you were saying, the immune system responds to that even, the less afraid you are, the better chances you have to survive anyway. So you might as well not be afraid because the more fear and the more you cower, it's a bad thing for you. But it reminds me of that, we're in that time where like people are running around looking for some light, looking for some hope. Amen. The Bible called us to be the salt and light of the earth, right? And it's crazy, you know, I mentioned earlier the David and Glythe vision, but like after that video or after my speech, I didn't sleep for five nights. And I remember people kept call me a watchman. I was like, I don't even know what that is. My wife had to send me like, oh, it's biblical. People kept call me a watchman. And I really didn't want to take on that title. I didn't want to even say that I'm a watchman, right? And because it comes in a lot of responsibility with that. And the pernials and then wild, if they're watchmen in the wild, they will sound the alarm. knowing that a predator is coming, knowing that they're going to die, but they still sound the alarm to warn others, like the predator's coming. And that's really what a watchman is. They're sounding the alarm about a certain threat or predator or topic or maybe to let the masses know,

knowing it's putting itself in danger. So my point is, back to the salt and light, I had another vision of polystrait fossils, which are fascinating. But I was walking through my office and I had these visions of lighthouses. And basically I was walking through my office and also I was like daydreaming. It was almost back to the David and Glythe vision. I was walking through the office and I could see lighthouses. I was in my mom's house and I could see lighthouses on the wall and the pictures and these glass bases. And then I get to my phone, not even five minutes after this vision. And my friend who lives in a completely different state sent me a text and he's in full-time ministry. And he said, watch me can be classified as lighthouses. They stand their ground in the midst of the storm and the wind and the

waves and they bring light to the darkness and they bring hope to the hopeless basically. And it was like confirmation. And so it just reminds me of the time. You said we're in a time of darkness and we need to be that light standing our ground in that storm. No matter how hard the wind blows and how big those waves are, we need to bring that light to the darkness because the time is now and people are starving for that. And they're lost at sea.

And the themes of the Bible repeat themselves. Right. We learn that on our show a lot. You know, like Jesus says in Matthew 23, like the. Days of Noah. And what we talk about all the time is, what are the days of Noah? What was going on then? Genetic mutations, hybrids. You had angels and humans interacting. You had realms interacting. It all kinds of weird stuff going on. And it might not be looked the same, but the same principles, right? The same spices are going to be there. And right. Same burrito. Same burrito. They're making the same burrito.

Golden Age now. Same burrito. Cherizo. The whole circle. Especially with the technologies that are that exist. I don't know. Like I don't want you guys to get kicked off of the podcast or the Apple podcast, but like the technologies that's that are being utilized right now, dude, mind blowing stuff that is that is absolutely evil.

They made a goat with CRISPR technology with a spider. And the, the goat does not produce milk. It produces like a, a web strain. Have you heard of this? Yeah, I heard this.

I did hear this. Yeah. And they can make like a bulletproof skin. They've like turned a rot weather to blue. They've, I mean, the stuff that they can do, dude, will blow your mind and people wouldn't even believe it. So they can alter and play God with your genes through these types of technologies. And that's why I think it's absolutely terrifying that we have an MRI type concoction that

people are just not even questioning. And it's, it's very, very interesting days ahead. And you might be right, basically, with the Noah, Noah's time, the days are ahead. And it's going to be like what the Bible says. the end times are going to be like the Noah's time. Yeah, we've talked to plenty of people. This is the crux of our show actually, been

in most ways, is that we're in a seed war, Genesis 3. That prophecy set off everything. It's set off Genesis 6, it's set off the golden age and the flood, and it continues to be the place where the enemy seeks to remove those things which make us human, to usurp our humanity, as Tim Albrino would say, and our

dominion, and then also at the same time to remove us from the covering of the king, right, is to remove our humanity. And so, I mean, I think we're seeing this. And I think we're in the beginnings, but I also think that, like, you know, things are accelerating. And I have no doubt that a lot of what we're going to see is the days of Noah, again, are going to look much different than they did in the golden age. But same playbook, right? Nate said same spices. Megan, same. Yeah, you know. Well, it's like, you know, the thing that's funny about being a human being is that, you know,

human beings have authority and power here. And so it almost gives us that right to be naive and stupid that this all the all this stuff is going on around us man if we didn't have a hierarchy if we were the if we were the top dogs in our domain we would know all this other stuff exists right we would know the giants of old we would know about bigfoot and aliens and all these other creatures that are flying around but because god gave us dominion here and domain he protects us from all this other stuff that can some can can can kind of mess with us but not yet not until we fully give up what makes us sons of God. And that is just the part of the Bible, the sci-fi part of the Bible that I didn't, that just unlocked in the last few years of just like, you're born into this crazy

story, this crazy war, whether you choose it or not, whether you want to acknowledge it or you don't want to acknowledge it. It's coming for you. That's exactly right. And you might as well be useful and do something about it. But I think a lot of people are waking up to the fact that like it's more of Lord of the Rings than I want to admit. Right. You want to admit a lot though, Nate, so that's saying that's a very high bar. I do. You've seen Bigfoot out there, Ben? You know, it's so funny.

I live, if you can see back here, this is my front yard there. I live in the woods, right? I can see him peeking out there. It's blurry. Yeah, dude, he's like, right. It's blurry, yeah. You guys need to come up here and I was, I want to make you guys like a big foot out of logs.

You guys, we should do that. You guys could come up here. We can hang out. We can build a big. Nate's going to put it in his hallway. Where are you? I mean you can't tell us exactly right well I'm in I'm Fort Calhoun Nebraska so just outside Omaha somewhere in middle somewhere in middle America yes midwest right right and you know

people said that Bigfoot doesn't exist here well this no he does well right right well there's a lady in Hastings I I was in uh we went on like a almost a three week road trip with the family and we went up I wanted to see the Redwoods and never did I really like I'm just going to be honest, I really didn't know what to think about Bigfoot, but I'm like, man, if Bigfoot exists, he's in the Redwoods, like area. That forest up there is nuts. And I was waiting for like a little gnome to pop out of the woods out there. They might be there too. Yeah, they are there. But, uh, but anyway, there was a, I started looking at like, I was so devastated that this Bigfoot museum was closed up in there. It was, uh, out by Santa Cruz

area. Felton. What is it? I think it was in Felton, California. Yes. Yes. That is, I've been there. It's like this little dinky little Bigfoot. And that's a cool town, cool town. There's the mystery spots out there somewhere, too. Guess what camp is right there, Mount Herman. Oh, dude, yeah. There's a Christian camp called Mount Herman right there. Did you go there?

Yeah, I worked there. I worked there. So my spiritual journey starts at a camp called Mount Herman. How funny is that? That's awesome. Where it all starts. But anyway, yeah. The apex of the vortex.

Well, that's the thing is the Bigfoot is just, it's like he's just grumpier, different parts of it. Yeah, that's what I've heard. That one guy that he has had on your show, he was like, he had something to do with like the salmon. He was like an Indian guy. Yeah, Tom, Tom Suid. Yeah, he was a wild man. He was an interesting fellow.

He was an interesting fellow. Well, yeah, he claimed that Bigfoot, like murdered somebody out in British Columbia, Victoria on it, I think. Talked about Bigfoot in Nebraska, ripping doors off trailers. Yeah, he did. Yes, that's right. So there was a lady, so I started research in Bigfoot museums. And sure not, there was like this sweet old lady that's in her 70s that started the Bigfoot Museum in Hastings, Nebraska. And I'm like, you got to be kidding me. And, dude, you have to have a lot of conviction to start a Bigfoot museum in Hasty's Nebraska, right?

And she claims that she saw Bigfoot and she started this Bigfoot museum. So, like, I'm going to go out and visit her. Thank you should. And if I do it, I'll take some pictures and I'll tag you again. Dr. Ben Tapper, blurry creatures correspondent. That's right. On the ground, checking in. We got down there, Ben.

Sign me up, dude. Sign me up. She's got a little bit of Bob Lazare in her, too. It's these people that just can't. They just, they don't care what anyone thinks. They're going to follow their heart and they're going to pursue the truth. Love it. Love it.

You're one of them. Right. Yeah. Did I get the job? You did. Yes. I'm hired. Okay.

Good. We just need you to split wood and prepare. You got it, dude. For the end. Oh, man. Because we have nowhere to go. If they start blowing up the coast, we're driving to Ben. We're driving to Ben.

Go to town of New Brasca. Let's do it. But Bigfoot's out there, Ben. You got to watch out. And the little people, too. Right. You know, I think in our first get together, I showed you the Bigfoot walk, right? My brother-in-law is a huge big, big-foot fan. He's, oh, dude. Oh, yeah. Have you got him blurry yet?

Oh, I actually just told him about your podcast. Let's go. He's going to be all about it. He doesn't know. Yeah, he doesn't know we're getting, he's getting pumped-ficked. He's getting pumped-ficked thinking it's a bigfoot podcast. And then we're going to get the theology coming all the way around. That's what it's all flavors. Blurry. It means that there's a lot of flavors in there. That's what that means. It's like Baskin-Robbins. We're just a little more diverse. We talk about all blurry creatures.

And that's the thing about our, we love about our show is like, if you stay in the creature's space, whether it's, I mean, we can dip into your neck of the woods a little bit because we talk about hybrids and we talk about chimeras. And that's what they're trying to do is turn us all into hybrids and chimeras. So we could talk about a little bit about what's going on in the geopolitical space. But for the most part, you know, we try to keep it creature focused. And that's somehow it unlocks people's brains to have. different conversations about God and reality than they would normally because if they can start thinking, oh, Bigfoot's real. And in a way, Bigfoot sort of saved my own faith because I was going down some pretty progressive rabbit holes and getting weirder and weirder and weirder and not

understanding. And it was like this fascination with Bigfoot that got my mind open to this world isn't what I think it is. Right, dude. Right. And then you get into, and then the theologians start, you know, coming on these shows and talking about Genesis 6 and it's like, right. And then you're like, oh, this is the best. You're going to be a full-blown hipster. Now you're a blurry hipster. Yeah, it's blurry. Love it.

How could the story of humanity be more boring than something we could write in a Marvel movie? Like the real true story of humanity, what's going on in this war is the best story. The gospel is the best story. It is. And it's so fascinating. You know, it's so fascinating. Amen. It's very blurry.

Very blurry. Nothing like an immaculate conception and a resurrection. and transfigurations and all kinds of stuff in between miracles and all the above. And UFOs, maybe. Isn't it just humanity to make it boring? To neuter that down and make it boring. Dude, I'm surprised. Have you guys anybody talked about the Leviathan?

I mean, yeah, we haven't had a full episode on it, but we definitely talked about. A blurry episode. Yeah. I mean, we talked about Doug for sure. We're trying to get a guy on this show that heard sirens on a boat. Ooh, dude. That's another thing. I guess another phenomenon.

I've heard sirens. That could be an episode. But the Leviathan is super, super interesting. Nothing like a sea dragon. Right. Just to get you going in the morning, huh? Oh, yeah, right. Sea dragon.

There's definitely a lot of blurry creatures in the ocean. Meglodons. Yeah, the megalodon. Yeah, that's who knows. The merman? The merman. It's fascinating, you know, the ocean, what does the earth make up 80% of water? and we say, well, we know five percent of the ocean life, and they say, oh, it's extinct.

You know, how do you know it's extinct if we really know five percent of the ocean life? You know what I mean? Anyway, that's just my... Well, they claim we know more about the surface of the men than we do about the bottom of the ocean. Well, it's true. You can see it. But is it flat, Luke? Flat Earthers love our show.

We love you out there, flat Earthers. Don't give up on us just yet, okay? I want Luke to answer that. I don't know. there's a whole episode to be had just about NASA and this is not the episode then right right we don't care about Apple deleting us we care about the flat earthers oh yeah yeah that's an interesting topic they make some interesting points you know I really do I don't know what they don't like the firmament and well since you brought it up Nate dog I'm going to tell you it's a little

weird when you have I can't even get reception in the boondocks of Fort Cahoon but homeboy had perfect reception he called the president and said, hey, you know, we landed, we're good. You know, one small, small, step for man, one giant, step for leap, earth mankind. You need to have a moon episode at some point because it is, this is weird. The whole thing, we're going to end up on another rabbit trail, but the whole thing is very interesting.

I think there's something not, something's not right, but you got to be careful because the devil's really good, and getting real close to the truth and then getting you off, getting you on a rabbit hole. Something's weird about the earth. I don't know what it is. There's something we don't understand. There's definitely something going on in Antarctica that we don't,

don't know about. And so there's something going on. Right. And my sister loves the flat earth. We talk about it a lot. So just stick with us. We're still blurry, okay? Don't you delete us, you, you lovable flat earthers. But the thing is, you have to welcome dialogue. You know, it doesn't matter. You want to say flat earth or not, it doesn't matter. We need to have dialogue about it. And it's good to ask questions. Yeah. It's good to handle these questions. And so just write them off as crazy. Science has never settled, my friends. It's about, it's about discourse. And so I just like Bigfoot. I don't really, I don't get in a, of the globe. I just like the big guy.

Big guy. You can't go down to every rabbit hole. You'll go crazy. You've got to pick your lane and stick with it, right? You know, your space in the health world. That's a big enough beast to try to take down. Big puts way more fun though. Can I switch? I want to switch. Right? Well, you are going to be our correspondent. Yes, I will.

You already somewhat switched. You can dabble. Are you going to do anything out there, Ben? You're going to set up a trap? Are you going to try to call him in? You know, you know what he likes. He likes Native American flute music, so play him a little bit. and he likes ladies singing. What do you know, dude? I got it right here.

Did you see that in my window? No. For those listeners, look at this. Pentabber, correspondent blur. Here we go. What do you know?

There's Bigfoot walking out right there. Do you know anything by Celine Dion? There's real good flute cell in one of those songs. Oh, man, I don't. That's probably all I got right there. I might know the Lion King, but I don't even know if I can do that right now. Oh, my, how did it?

Okay, hold on the second. Okay, I'm going to give up. Look when we interviewed Ellie Marzul and he pulls out like an elongated skull right in the little. A briefcase. He's like, you guys want to look at this? Yeah. You just pull out the flute right out of the window. No, I'm serious.

Ben, if you play that tonight, if you go out and you have a little fire out there and you start playing that thing, keep an eye out because he's going to come up. Got it. I'm going to do it. Let us know. I'll have a bigfoot ritual. You know, I thought about actually buying like a high production, Bigfoot suit.

There's my neighbor. His acreage buds up to mine and he's, he's a deer hunter and he's got trail cams. It's a good way to get shot, Ben. I know. Careful out there. We're not encouraging that by any means. I thought it'd be funny,

though, just like drag like a dead animal and a Bigfoot costume in front of the trail camp. Maybe safer in like more of an urban setting. Maybe downtown Omaha. Yeah. Yeah, probably.

It's a bad idea. I'm glad you talked me out of that loop. Yeah, I want to see around for a little while, a little while longer. Yeah. We thought the deep state was going to get you. It turns out big, my neighbor. Turns out your neighbor, Hal and his 30, in his 30, Winchester 300.

Or, hey, even worse, you call in Bigfoot and he finds you attractive. Right. Yeah, right. That's a bad idea. You're gone. I just wanted my arbitrationary. I just wanted to say my tombstone, the correspondent for blurry creature. To the man, it's the man on the street.

On the street. Dr. Ben Taver. I love it, Ben. I love it, man. Thanks for, thanks for doing what you do. and thanks for speaking the truth and thanks for messaging us. I know that it's not easy. I know we make light of some of these topics and subjects,

but I mean, what you're doing is difficult. You know, Luke and I did one live episode. We haven't walked in front of Congress or done anything crazy where we're trying to speak the truth in front of, you know,

a bunch of talking heads and a bunch of people who have just cowards. I can't imagine just getting in front of a room of cowards. People that know the truth. They know what's going on behind the scenes and they just stick to the narrative. Why? Because someone promised them,

you know, you'll be at the top. of the heap at the end of all this. Just a bunch of men have cashed in their morals and no one wants to speak out. So we're proud of guys like you. We're proud of people who speak the truth and we've interviewed a lot of them and dudes in history who

went against the flow and said, you know what, no matter what, I'm going to talk about whether it's how the Egyptian pyramids were built or it's these giant bones that have been dug up that farmers found and I'm going to make sure that someone knows about this and I'm going to print this article or this Sasquatch came and did this and

that and I'm not going to not tell people because I'm afraid what my neighbors or my friends will think about me. And I just admire that about you, Ben. Well, thanks, bro. You don't give a flip what people think. And that's not easy in this society when everyone cares so much about what everyone else thinks about it. Right. Well, I appreciate you saying that, my friend. Dude, give everybody, uh, give everybody a little plug here and everybody can find you and what you're working on. If you come back from the woods tonight. Yes. You can find me in the woods in Fort Cahoon playing my Indian flute. Yes. I find me in Haytney's Nebraska here very soon, being a correspondent for Bored Creatures.

You can find me on Instagram. Just type in Dr. Ben Tapper. D.R. dot Ben Tapper should pop up, but I'm probably Shadowbainer censored. You can find my movie at www.w. The Time isnow. Dotmovie, not dot com.

The Time Is Now. Dot movie. You can watch the movie and you can watch the speech that I gave that went viral. And basically, yeah, that's it. You know, I don't, like I said, I don't do this for publicity. I don't do this, but I just do this because my convictions are greater than my complacency. And if you got anything out of this episode, listen to me, I just pray that I inspired you to be courageous, to be bold and courageous, and pick up an Indian flute.

Call them in. Call them in. Call them in. That's right. You got to get an old film camera. Yeah. Yeah, you got to get an old film camera. That's how you catch it in all of his glory.

Yeah. Yeah, you can't have anything digital. They'll run away. Right. Dude, oh, and I listened to one episode all the way home. My boy and I still joke about this. The dude that casted Bigfoot's butt. Yeah, Dr. Jeff Maldrum.

He's the leading expert on Bigfoot in the entire world. Yeah, that dude is, he was a very, that was a very interesting episode. But Big But my boy and I, we still laugh about it. Yeah. That dude loves feet. More than Quentin Tarantina. More than Rex Ryan. Right.

Well, thank you guys for having me on. You guys are awesome. Thanks, Ben. Yeah. Thanks, Ben. Yeah, thanks, Ben. Thanks, man. All right, guys.

Hi, buddy. God bless you, guys. Take care.