Blurry Creatures - EP: 121 Bloodlines with Daniel Duval

Episode Date: August 23, 2022

Author, pastor, and podcaster Daniel Duval makes his first appearance on Blurry Creatures. Dan is the executive director of Bride Ministries and works tirelessly to advocate for survivors of extreme trauma, satanic ritual abuse, and government-sponsored mind control agendas. In this conversation, we cover all things in the blurry space--from reptilians and entities to alien abductions, this episode runs the gamut of the spiritual realm. In this extremely dark and often controversial space, Dan relays stories of survivors and hope, that help make a little more sense of the odd things we hear on the podcast. This episode is one of our more heavy conversations, and might not be suitable for kids.  Guest: https://bridemovement.com Intro song: Timecop 1983 contact: [e-mail] blurrycreatures.com Socials instagram.com/blurrycreatures facebook.com/blurrycreatures twitter.com/blurrycreatures Music Kyle Monroe: tinytaperoom.com Aaron Green: https://www.instagram.com/aaronkgreen/ Mastering: ironwingstudios.com Outro Song: TimeCop1983: timecop1983.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Luke so often, people email us and they have this story. They're out in their woods and they're looking in the bushes and they got, What's that? And when you are pouring your dog food and your dog's bowl, that's the last thing you want to say. What is that? What is the stuff coming out of this bag? You know, I don't think a lot of us think about maybe what we feed our dogs. And that's why we partner with rough greens.

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We've mapped up to six strands in our work. It's really interesting what gets attached to this stuff. But when you start talking about like shape shifting, right, this is an iniquity that perverts the DNA of an individual giving them the ability to cooperate with certain abilities that are demonically powered. So the DNA really can contain some of this stuff that allows them to go in different directions. And it is iniquity, which means the whole conversation actually lands smack dab in the middle of a biblical revelation. A biblical revelation. I think in Christianity, one of our assumptions is anything we don't understand is a demon or just a fallen angel or it's absolutely serving directly under Satan some kind of way.

Can I tell you there are a lot of different factions in the Kingdom of Darkness that just generally don't serve Jesus Christ but are not all on the same page? Are not all on the same page. The history of our Earth is so different from what we can imagine. The Smithsonian, that if they found out about a large skeleton somewhere,

was to go get it. I'm going to assume at least one person is right, because if one person's right, it bust the paradigm. It all goes back to the fallen church. And the problem with the modern day church, they have a very truncated view of the supernatural. This backdrop that's just pregnant with all kinds of meaning associated with this Mount Herman event.

And this guy defects from the kingdom. That's a big deal. Welcome back to Blurred Creatures. Today we have Daniel Deval on the show. Senior pastor of Bride Ministries Church, author of six books. He's got his own podcast called Discovering Truth. He is an SRA deliverance minister and has a ton of stories about all the weird, blurry stuff in our world that a lot of people don't want to talk about, including people in the faith.

He's dealt with people who have survived satanic ritual abuse and the government-sponsored mind-control agendas. So this one gets really strange, and Luke, I don't know, part of me just wants to say to the people out there listening that like look we're not we're on this journey with you we're trying to figure out with you as we go and we give people space to share their ideas we had a really good conversation with daniel and blew our minds and we're just kind of sitting here riffing after the show i don't know luke i mean we're just trying to figure it all out it's just i like people who speak with such certainty sometimes about these things who've had their 10,000 hours and they're not in the business of trying to convince you.

They're just, you and I are in this tank and we just, we believe more of this stuff is true than less of it. So what the heck is it? He doesn't have to spend any time trying to convince skeptics. And that's where we are. That's where I am. That's a waste of my time and your time, I think. Which is why I don't think we do that on our shows.

Because it's like, I've heard enough weird stuff to know that something's going on. What the heck is it? And why? But sure as hell makes you realize you need. savior man. If anything, it makes you cling to Christ more than ever because it's just crazy. I thought about this today and this is what I think about when I talk about our show is there's so many megaphones and in this world that are telling you exactly how to think,

exactly what to do. And what I like about us and what I always want to reiterate about what we do is we really want people to think for themselves. And like we always say, we're just looking for better answers and we're, and we're, and we're, pursuing the truth, right? You know, we want people to take, you know, take the opinions of these people that have put in the hours, the experts, whether they have the PhDs, or they have

the 10,000 hours, or whatever it may be. People are uniquely qualified for what they do and think for themselves. Because some of the stuff is, you know, some of the stuff is going to be very hard to believe. But I think the longer, the more the show barrels on, the more, the less out there, some of this stuff really does seem.

And I think it's because so many of these topics, like even the stuff that we talked about with Dan, you know, whether the aliens or like even the Illuminati, New World Order. It's been so stigmatized with the conspiracy theory label and so chastised that even like it coming up can make people feel a little cringy about it. But I think it's intentional that that's the way it happens. And I think it's intentional in the sense that like, you know, it's the whole usual suspects thing.

It's like the greatest trick of devil or pull is miss the world didn't exist. It's this bait and switch between. you know you just you continue to discredit certain things and certain ideas and usually those certain things and certain ideas are over the target and that's why they're being discredited yeah i loved how you put it in the end there of like the false reality is the real one and the one that you don't want to believe is is the truth sounds like the matrix yeah exactly like the matrix and that's the thing is most people just they're plugged in and they think exactly what they're being told is the truth and it's it's a really sad time to be somebody who's

taking the time to get weird and to ask hard questions. And so I just love how he put that. Yeah, appreciate that. Luke. That's a good thought. And we do try to give people the space on this show just to share. And it's, it's your show just as much as it is our show, yours. And I mean, the listener, you know, because we're just on, we're just going down the road and we don't pretend like we know everything. And I was going to say this today, too. It's like, you know, you just have to be the most interested in the content to, to gain people's interest in listening to a show. It's not about being the smartest or I know everything. It's just like I'm the most fascinated by whatever the person has to be talking about. I hope we bring that wonder and whimsy into the conversations. I'm just asking him like, I'm a kid. I don't know.

What are they doing on the craft? What are the aliens doing? What are they looking for? And like he said, they're looking for something in the blood. And that gives them, and it's just like, whoa. That's wild. It's weird. Anyway, thanks for listening to our podcast, sharing our podcast.

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But this show has just kind of exploded recently, and we love it. But, you know, it's just two dudes trying to wrangle this thing. Who knew, Luke? You know, like you said, we got shirts. You know, if you're interested in more content and more perks, check out the membership options. That's how we split the show. And Nate, I haven't done this in a while, and it's really been bothering me.

What do you want to do, Luke? Roll the time. Just roll it. Well, we can't roll it yet because this is technically in the beginning of the episode. And that's the end of the episode for us. So I hope you enjoyed this one with Daniel Deval. Good dude. Great conversation.

Our minds are still willing. Hope you enjoy it. Hey, if this is your first time, listen to Bloor your Creatures. We are a cryptid podcast. We filtered all through the biblical paradigm. And we have this 80s flare that we throw in. It's just how to help market the show. So I hope you enjoy all that.

I know that a lot of people just hop in the podcast when someone tells them to listen. So if this is your first time, you're diving into the deep. this might not be suitable for kids if you have kids listening to the show a lot of people tell us that their kids listen this might not be the one for them but uh enjoy thanks for being on this journey with us well daniel daniel deval welcome to blurry creatures before we were rolling we talk about creatures on our podcast and you got a long resume tell us a little bit about yourself and then we can kick it off with our quintessential question we ask everybody on the top of the hour welcome well it's it's a pleasure to be with you guys luke Nate, this is going to be fun, I hope, I think. So my name's Dan Duval. I have founded bride ministries.

We've been around as an organization since 2012. We serve what I believe to be underserved populations in the body of Christ, namely targeted individuals, people that have been through MK Ultra, government-sponsored mind control projects of various types, people defecting from high-level cults, including the Illuminati, and people that want to just go deeper in Christ. So existing in that space, as you can imagine, we get a lot of interesting stories and people. And we're always solving problems that a lot of people would blush at. And I consider it a privilege. I tell people all the time, it's like, if you're a targeted individual, if you have problems that you can't explain, I'm your advocate.

And I want to help. So over the years, our offering has expanded. We can be found at bridemovement.com to date we have developed, I think, a one of its kind deliverance portal where people can go and like literally get delivered by filling out assessments and just engaging in like this massive repertoire of prayers we've put together for deliverance from everything from fallen angels to like artificial intelligence stuff, synthetic entities and evil councils and alien groups and stuff we may talk about today. We also have coaches that we've trained.

We have an army of people that we're building to really deal with some of the tough problems that people are contending with. I mean, it's not very many places in the body of Christ that you can go and say, hey, I'm being blasted by frequencies and they're using voice to skull, and it's going in my head, and I don't know what to do about it. You can't just tell people that, but in our world you can, and that's probably why I'm here. So, you know, we are here to serve. We're really happy about what's going on at Bride Ministries. I can go on, but we also have the podcast, which sits on Dan Devald.com, and that's, uh, Discovering Truth with Dan DeVall.

So it's really going to be here with you guys. Yeah. I love it. That's an intro. I don't know if I've been so excited about a podcast. These are things that we've wanted to talk about, Dan. Like just whether it be MK Ultra stuff, the Illuminati, but also, you know, the SRA things you get into.

I'm excited for our audience and just to get to kind of pick your brain as someone who's on the front lines. Yeah. I was going to say that's cool, too. Because a lot of people often email us as they get into our show. They'll tell us their stories about how they're being pestered or they're like, Like, who do I talk to? I mean, we get emails like that sometimes, and we're just a podcast, and it's cool.

But now we, we can send them to you, you know? I don't know what to do about these orbs that visit you in your room. I have no. Yeah. You need to hit up our buddy Daniel now. We know where to send the folks. We've been doing this sort of tradition on our show and kind of gets the conversation going, Daniel, what are your thoughts on Bigfoot?

What do you think Bigfoot is? Do you have any thoughts on Bigfoot? I'm sure you've heard some stories. That's our gateway drug into the weird. and what do you think? Well, look, I've had different stories about Bigfoot. Now, I think some of the more traditional ones is that Bigfoot lives in another dimension, like parallel to Earth. So this creature can step in and out of like Earth time, space, and people can see them in a forest when they like only have a really blurry camera or like a flip phone from 1990.

98. And so it always is sketchy, right? Is it really a big foot or a man wearing a costume, whatever? But I've, let me tell you something. Shapeshifting is real 100%. And I have talked to many people over the years that have been at rituals where shapeshifting occurs. And some people will think, oh, you know, you mean shape shifting like werewolves, right? When people turn into a werewolf. Well, the fact of the matter is, friends, wolf is only one form that people will take when they shape shift. And there are many. And if you get into like what they do in that with the African witch doctors, I mean, we're talking about shape shifting into hippopotamus. We're talking about shapeshifting into crocodiles. We're talking about shapeshifting, even into insects at times. The stories that come out of some of these more, more bush type witchcraft environments are just

off the chart. But you do have the lichen kind of a thing, which happens to be its own bloodline, by the way, as is vampire, which is a different conversation. But when we talk about Bigfoot and rituals, there are reports in my files of people at rituals where Satanists have the correct, I guess, a demonic infestation to allow them to shape shift into a Bigfoot type form. Wow. Meaning it's actually a person at a ritual that looks like a big foot. And then they shape shift back. Sometimes it feels like when you get that phone bill, it's like the crash site document.

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Now, the interesting thing about entities, we actually deal with all kinds of entities that do come into this dimension. One of the things that we've learned over the years is that entities often. and are empowered to come in through portals of different types. And what people don't realize is that the evil ones require energy. And they get that energy from things like injustice, fear, bloodshed, sex, and drugs, people on drugs, hurting each other and having sex. And so what happens is when you have people that are able to do rituals, say, in the woods

and different things. They are, with all of the bloody, gory stuff that I don't want to get on all the details on. They are allowing for portals to open. They're actually summoning entities that can materialize into physical forms in the 3D Earth, but they live in other dimensions. And they'll be here for a while until the energy from whatever they did in the ritual with the bloodshed and the sex and the incantations and the torture wears off. And then they kind of will drift back into their worlds. you actually get a lot of sightings around areas where there's a lot of occult activity because it's the occult activity that's opening the portals, bringing in some of these entities that have temporary existence on Earthplane. I mean, that reminds me of like, we've done a lot of shows recently about this, a lot of shows about shape-shifting. Some people say you have to have the DNA of whatever animal you want to turn yourself into, and that's kind of how they do it.

but also we were just talked about Mount Shasta and how there was a lot of occult stuff going on around the mountain. But I never thought about it, like the energy of the people doing occult practices maybe around that area opens up some sort of doorway on that because there's so much weird paranormal creature stories coming out of that place in particular. But there are certain places, as our show kind of barrels on, that hotspots and it feels weird.

It's interesting you say that, Dan, like when you have an injustice or, you know, you think about hauntings. It's usually like someone has been murdered or committed suicide. You have these blood, which essentially is these blood rituals that happen. You hear about these sort of places where it feels like there's a door that opens, right? And we talk about skinwalkers. And one of the things that the Navajo talk about is you have to kill someone in your family or someone you love. It's like a, that's part of the ritual in order to get this demonic power and shape shift.

And it's disgustingly evil, right? And on the subject of having the DNA, now that is. is a big deal. How do you get werewolf DNA or pig DNA or crocodile DNA in the body or whatever? And so that's a different conversation. But let me just say this. We have found. And I call it iniquity.

I call it iniquity. Because I think this is the conversation that the Bible has on the subject that you're bringing up that the average person wouldn't necessarily connect the dots on. When you read the Bible over and over again, you see this theme happen where you see sin, transgression and iniquity. And you'll actually find if you do your deep study that they're all different words in the Hebrew, sin, transgression and iniquity. And iniquity is actually translated from a collection of nine different Hebrew words. But one of the most common ones is Avon or Avon. And when you begin to study out iniquity, it really means perverse.

or perversion. And when you, like, read the Bible and what Yehovah God, Jehovah does, it says he visits the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generation. What that means is he's not actually visiting sin and he's not visiting transgression. He's visiting perversion. Iniquity from the fathers to the children to the third and fourth generation. And the interesting thing about this is that when you look at them as different line items, what you realize is that sin really means to miss the mark. It means to make an error or misstep, right, to do something that offends God. But transgression really becomes more like a rebellion in the definition of the word.

It's like when you move out of sin and you say, no, I'm going to commit to a sin pattern. So I'm in transgression. Iniquity is perversion. What that means is my sin has. become not only a commitment that has put me in rebellion, it's actually become part of who I am. It's become a component of my identity to the point that I've been perverted by. In fact, it has entered my DNA and changed it. And so, in like the MK Ultra projects, one of the things they targeted, if you look at,

I'm kind of stringing a bunch of ideas together, but I'm going to come back to the original thought, which was DNA for shape-shifting. That's where I'm coming back to that. In the MK Ultra projects, what they were doing, like the CIA and other groups involved, some of some of these major politicians, they were like head hunting for targets for their monarch project under MK Ultra, which was like, you know, presidential models and getting people to be sex slaves. They were targeting and farming people that came from generational incest-based families. And one of the reasons why is because it's a lot easier to work with bloodlines that have a lot of

iniquity. And of course, the perversion that comes along with incest is heavy duty. These children are often, you know, sodomized rate and whatever from early on. So there's a, there's a foundation of trauma there. But also one of the things they found is that it only takes like two generations where once you have two generations of incest entering in, incest almost becomes natural. It doesn't become contrary to nature. And so it's very easy for a person to slip into that if they come from just two generations of it. And so it was very easy to put them into these sex projects. And the sexuality is just totally twisted and broken, even from the womb, because it's in the DNA. The brokenness around the sexuality is in the DNA. That's iniquity. Now, what that means is every time you have

a perversion that enters a DNA and changes a person's humanity, you've added iniquity. You're actually separating them from original design. So if you look at not just M.K. but cults in general or the 13 root bloodlines of the Illuminati. Now, these are families that have hundreds and hundreds of years of iniquity compounded on the generations, right? So each generation is coming up under this intentional systematic ritualization, destruction of everything sacred. Generation after generation, they're compounding iniquity for the purposes of ultimately bringing about their new world order. So iniquity is a big conversation. It's in the Bible, but it's in the occult world too. There's a lot of science around iniquity. Now, what we have found, and this connects

to aliens and everything else, is that the DNA is everything. Like DNA is at the center of it. If you think there's two strands of DNA, think again, wrong. It's more complicated than that. But there's two physical strands that you can measure. But then there's like these spiritual strands, third strand, fourth strand, fifth strand. We've mapped up to six strands in our work. And it's really interesting, what gets attached to this stuff. But when you start talking about like shape shifting, right, this is an iniquity that perverts the DNA of an individual, giving them the ability to cooperate with certain abilities that are demonically powered. So the DNA really can contain some of this stuff that allows them to go in different directions. And it is iniquity,

which means the whole conversation actually lands smack dab in the middle of a biblical revelation. Now I'm going to take you all a step further because this is probably a question. Some of you have been asked, right? I've been abducted by aliens. Can someone please tell me how to make it stop? Now, I've heard some fantasy words, right, with people that have said, well, you know, if I just call in the name of Jesus, it stops. Yeah, the day you did it, it stopped. But then two months later, they tried again, and it got through. And now you're caught back in the cycle and you're like, gosh, I wish I didn't show that testimony so quick. I just don't know how to make it permanently stop. We run into this all the time because the worlds of programming, right, deep underground military bases. Because you know,

there's reptiles. We have purchased technology from Draco reptilians. That's part of the reason why the world is what it is. I mean, this is. Did I go too far? Yeah. I'm in the right place. Yeah, you're in the right place. Yeah, we've talked about all these things that we have. Things I want to go back to when you're done with this because it's like, no, we're tracking. This is, keep going. Keep going.

I told you, I'm a plug and play. Like, you guys, you plug now you get to place. But let me just, let me just say this. Okay.

So people, right, I don't want to leave your audience hanging, right? Because I'm about to drop a key. I'm about to drop a key. People are like, how do I get this stuff to stop permanently? Here's the key.

One of the reason. why a lot of these alien groups keep getting backdoor access to people is because during abduction experiences or in interactions with past generations, dad, granddad. Their harassment, experiments, injections, stuff like that on the craft and in their possession of when they have people, have put iniquity in the bloodline. Literally, they've put their own code in the DNA, not necessarily. necessarily going to change a person fully so they don't look human anymore. Some people may look a little weird, but it's there. And so people are being born with iniquity in their bloodline that actually connects them to some of these alien groups. And the coding in the DNA is the back door.

And so these alien groups from a legal perspective in the spirit world are saying, hey, we have legal rights to come after this person because our code is in their DNA and because they carry iniquity, we can get it. Wow. And so you can call on the name of Jesus and it will stop an event. But it's an application of the finished work of Jesus Christ to undo the iniquity of the DNA that actually stops it dead permanently. We've stopped stuff dead permanently for people, even people defecting from very high-level

cults. So I know what it takes and I've seen enough success that we are very confident in the understanding that we have at this point. But yeah, this whole idea of DNA being modified and getting foreign stuff in it is a big part of conversation. So what are they doing then? Okay, so we know that they're harassing people. We've had many people on our show talk about alien abductions and that they do go after specific family lines. And it happens from mother to child and so on. But what are the aliens doing then?

Why are they taking these certain people on ships and doing these experiments? What are they? What's happening when they're doing that? That's a fancy question. You know, this is the thing. Some of them are not all playing on the same team. Yeah. That's what it sounds like.

It's actually more complicated. I think in Christianity, one of our assumptions is anything we don't understand serfs is a demon or just a fallen angel or it's absolutely serving. directly under Satan some kind of way. Can I tell you there are a lot of different factions in the kingdom of darkness that just generally don't serve Jesus Christ but are not all on the same page? Starting a business can seem like a daunting task unless you have a partner like Shopify. They have the tools you need to start and grow your business.

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Yeah, let's just assume that each original angel that rebelled had his own massive ego. I mean, think about that. I mean, I just think about my days being in a band, trying to get five, six guys to agree on something creatively or even just dealing with egos amongst each other and having all this conflict. I mean, it has to be extremely complicated. What you think about rebellions and just with humans

where the rebellious site will just, they'll infight. There's infighting, and they're not really all kind of on the same team, following the same. They're all kind of looking out for themselves. It feels like it. I think that's kind of what you're saying to me. There's something like everybody's aligned like, you know, taking marching orders from, you know, from the Prince of Darkness or whatever.

It's, it's, it's, it's, it's a really interesting situation. So, like, even within the bloodlines of the Illuminat, like, they are constantly infighting. Like, people think the illuminates is controlling the world and they're just running their plan. Yeah, right. There are different factions. And there's been an ongoing, like headbutting as to who among the bloodlines and the groups is going to take, like, first seat. Okay. So I have a problem, friends. And I have to apologize because sometimes I will use like an example to make a point on another point that is a bomb all by itself. And I'm notorious for doing that.

So to your audience, I do apologize. So so but the aliens, they're, they have a lot of projects running. They have a lot of hybrid projects running. There was a long running gray human hybridization project that was run. They were actually collecting humans. They were trying to hybridize a being that really was a gray, but it looked very much human. And then they did even seed some of these into human population. Adopted them out to actual families, believe it or not.

I mean, sometimes, you know, they are abducting people because they want their seed. They want the eggs. They want the sperm. Also, they are collecting soul fragments. They're like actually farming soul fragments out of human bodies. because they use soul fragments for a lot of their technologies, believe it or not. So soul fragments from humans on this earth actually have massive value throughout the, I'll say the multiverse.

And I call it the Babylonian soul trade based on Revelation 18, verse 11 through 13. But the idea is that they are taking people. And there's a lot of slavery that's happening. You know, they're pulling people into slave labor. But a lot of that happens through the fragmentation of the soul. And that's another conversation somewhat. So there's a lot of layers. I mean, I don't know if you guys have interviewed some people in secret space program,

but they also bring a very unique angle to some of the stuff. We haven't yet. I mean, we've talked about all these ideas loosely. Like they've been dropped, but we had a specific episode about something else. And it was just kind of mentioned on a show. But we've talked about everything from the grays to the reptilians. But we've never gone into detail about all these things.

but not to derailed. I also think that I was to say the DNA thing to me is really the fascinating thing because for our show and just looking at the Old Testament what happened in Genesis 6 and when we have this, everything is about the DNA

from the prophecy of Genesis 3 to the event in Genesis 6 and to try to prevent them becoming the Messiah. You know, now to post-Jesus coming and resurrection of Christ, we have a continuing DNA war that seems a lot more complicated than just like a single facet.

And you've already done that on this episode. Yeah. You're saying they're saying they can put iniquity in bloodlines. We haven't heard that on the picture. Can I tell you what do you guys think transhumanism is about? Transhumanism. I mean, and they're saying, this is actually pretty cool. So we'll put a mutant called Next Man on the big screen.

So you can see just how cool it would be to have the powers associated with foreign DNA in your bloodline in your DNA, right? Transhumanism is iniquity PR campaign. They're trying to engineer scientifically engineer iniquity into human bloodlines with our co-signature on it saying, I want this so I can be better. We've talked a bit about that, Dan, like the idea that we have a frequent guest in the show, Tim Albarino. He contends that one of the ideas there is that because man's been given dominion through Adam on the, earth, the part of the transhumanism push is to remove those things that uniquely make us human out of our DNA so that you can usurp the dominion.

The iniquity piece that we haven't talked about, so I think it's fascinating the idea that the Bible says the sins of the father past the son. And I think when you think about that in just sort of Sunday school terms, it's like, well, yeah, like the dad's an alcoholic, maybe the kid will be, there's those kind of things, but then you realize that, like, man, there's really a DNA piece to that where it's passed in the line. and I just didn't have thought about it in those terms Dan just hadn't thought about those terms because that makes the complete sense so let me just do this all right so I'm going to do two things right

I'm going to back up what I said I'm going to give you also your audience a few Bible verses on my point with iniquity and then I'm going to jump into your other question about the Luminati and I'm going to give another Bible verse and scramble everyone's eggs and we can talk about us more right so so Daniel chapter 9 and verse 24 it's the 70 weeks or determined upon thy people and thy holy city to finish the transgression, to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity. Right. Exodus 34 verse 7, keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the

children and the children's children to the third and fourth generation. That's my point. Those are all different words. And if you look at what Jesus did, and this is where some of the prayer resources we've developed come in. And I'm just going to give a shameless plug right now because I have all these prayer books. Prayers of Shake Kevin and Earth has over 1,000 reviews on Amazon. It's changing lives. People have actually been delivered, healed, blessed, because these books contain the prayers.

And I could get into a lot of conversation just on how they were engineered on the front lines, trying to help people solve problems that just were tough. I mean, church after church, ministry after ministry, issues that were not breaking free. And when we figured out the keys and the mechanics, we were able to get breakthrough on them. This is what we learned. We learned that in Isaiah 53, verse 5, it says, but he was wounded for our transgressions. He was bruised for our iniquities. Bada bina bada boom.

Later on in verse 10, the Bible says, when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin. See, Jesus actually nailed sin, transgression and iniquity to the cross. And we don't, we're not taught that aspect of it that he actually resolves all three because I think in traditional Christian thinking, we just get told, stop sinning. And sin is like the cover all for everything wrong. And we don't actually see the bigger, broader, more nuanced conversation the Bible was having about just how stuck we can be. Now, with that said, one of the things that we realized in which read the Bible is that God is always resolving iniquity. in the context of a heavenly court. Yeah. That's just where the iniquity actually gets resolved. It's a legal process. So in the book of Zechariah, you actually see God removing the iniquity of the high priest.

And that was Joshua, the high priest. So Zechariah was the prophet. And as God was removing that iniquity, then he gave him a crown and he changed his dirty garments out. And all of this is happening as Satan is standing at his right hand to accuse him. It's a court setting. It's actually a courtroom. And that's where you see, guys, I've removed the iniquity. And one of the things that Jesus Christ accomplishes is the ability for us to have him be our intercessor, our advocate, to plead our case. And when Satan has these legal rights based on genetic bondages, we are able to take those two like heavenly courts and

resolve them on a legal basis. And that legal basis is where a lot of people miss it because they just say, well, leave me alone in the name of Jesus. But because we're not strategically applying any nuance around legalities that may be associated with our bondage, like it's usually just falls flat and people stay stuck. They stay broken. They stay harassed. And I used to be one of them. Can I tell you guys something about me personally? I'm still coming back to the Illuminati. I'm not going to get there. Yeah, yeah. No, this is great. Yeah. Yeah. I was one of those people. When I was growing up, I used to see demons with my physical eyes walking around.

I mean, Sixth Sense Kit, like, oh, there is. That's happening again. I was tormented with fear. I was like, every time I wake up, it's like, I'm not going to see one of them. Like, ugh, you know? And then it stopped and switched around 12. And it started to, I stopped seeing them with my physical eyes. And it started to happen in my dreams where the demonic entities would, like, come through a portal

into my dreamscape. And then I would go into sleep paralysis. And they would be like, you know, literally beating me up. like in the spirit world and I'd have to like wake myself out of sleep like when we'll finally wake up then I'd be like rebuke you in the name of Jesus and it would stop until the next day and then they'd come back and I mean by the time I hit my senior year of high school this was happening almost every day and I was going to church I was going to youth group I was praying I was reading the word I mean I literally got so tired of trying that I just backslid like

later on as I got to college because I'm like, you know, if it's going to be this tough, I might as well have a good time. Like, you know, and yeah, right, right into Sinners Lane. But the thing is, no one told me, Daniel, you may have an iniquity problem because you're half Haitian and half Puerto Rican. You have voodoo on one side of your family and you have a spirity theme on the other side of your family. And, you know, combined, your stuff was kind of compromised when you came out the womb.

And if you knew how to resolve that strategically, it could have knocked that out. out in a couple hours. It's just total life change. Instead, I had to take a journey of years. But now we're helping people to, like, you know, just squash this stuff really quick. And it's super cool because we understand it. Now, I say all that to say this. What is the Illuminati?

The Illuminati are 13 root bloodlines that are all pre-ademic. That's the Illumina. Right. And so these are the chosen bloodlines. through which really the Luciferian kingdom is creating the plan, right? The New World Order, ultimately, their confrontation of Yehovah God, Jesus Christ. And so these families have deep bloodline iniquities that go back behind Adam. And they go by different surnames.

So some of the common surnames people have heard Rockefeller. Rothschild, DuPont, Windsor, Hapsburg, Lee. These are all surnames. And there's way more than 13 surnames for these Illuminati bloodlines. But there are 13 root bloodlines. And yeah, people that are born into these bloodlines, I mean, they have a heck of a hard time coming out from under all of that iniquity. In fact, we get an idea of what it looks like in Acts chapter 8 because you have this guy named Simon the sorcerer. And here's what happens.

They go and preach, right, Philip, and he gets saved and baptized. He gets saved and bad. He turns his life over to Jesus. Then he gets baptized and one. And then Peter and John come up giving people the Holy Ghost, right? And they're praying for people. And he sees that, Simon the Sorcer. And he's like, I want that power.

So what does he do? Acts chapter 8. He asked to buy it from Peter. And Peter says, that's not how this works, friend. You need to pray to God for forgiveness because I perceive that you are in the gall of bitterness and in the bondage of iniquity. And this is the key. See, Simon Sorcer, this guy was a generational bloodline survivor who happened to be a sorcerer that mystified people with demonic power. But this guy had a bloodline problem.

an iniquity problem. And the thing about iniquity is that it is not resolved just because you are saved and baptized in water. Simon's iniquity was still there after conversion, just like ours, just like mine. It was still there. I had to resolve it

by applying the finished work of Jesus Christ. And so these Illuminati bloodlines, they just compound this iniquity, compound, compound, compound, the kind of stuff that goes in the DNA of a blue blood like person is is is quite hectic right and i mean it attaches them to all of these different kingdoms from you know the drako reptilian kingdom to the nordic kingdom to the annunaki kingdom

like to the vampire bloodlines and the lichen blood like they have the convergence of all of this stuff i mean it's like deep and therefore they get hit from every direction because they got like legal access up the wazoo it's really crazy so it's like hyper concentrated is what you're saying highly concentrated. All right. So this is going to mess you guys up, right? Because when I say pre-odamic bloodlines, people freak out in the daylight. Yeah. What, where is that in the Bible? So I'm going to give you a passage. Okay. Ezekiel chapter 20, 26, 28. Excuse me, 28. It's not the first time someone said that, though, on our show. So you're good. Okay. Okay. I mean, No one's explained it. You know, I'll just look. All right. I get it.

We all have opinions and or entitled to our opinions, but not necessarily to our own facts. I can get fact checked. I'm okay with that. Dan, you got this wrong. Fine. You know, I'm just trying to help people. Here's the deal. Ezekiel chapter 26.

You were the seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect and beauty. You were in Eden, the Garden of God. Every precious stone was you're covering the sardiest, topaz, diamond, barrel, onyx, jasper, sapphire, turquoise, an emerald with gold. This is describing Lucifer wearing his breastplate. Right. With nine stones, not 12, like the high priest of Israel, his has nine, right? The workmanship of your temples and pipes was prepared for you. On the day you were created, you were the anointed cherub who covers, I'm sure you guys are

familiar with this passage. I establish you, you are on a holy mountain of God. That's Zion. You walked back and forth in the midst of the fiery stones. You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created until iniquity. There it is. Iniquity was found in you. So iniquity actually is pre-ademic, right? We have a source point in Lucifer that is way before he's found in the garden deceiving Adam

and Eve. Verse 16. By the abundance of your trading, you became filled with violence within and you sent. Now, this is interesting because not only do you have a pre-ademic iniquity associated with Lucifer, you have a pre-ademic trade. Pre-ademic trade requires multiple parties. And there's a lot of trading because it says abundance, meaning Lucifer's trading with all kinds of people and groups and entities.

This is pre-ademic world stuff. It's right there staring us in the face. Hard to catch, though, because we're not introduced to this in church. And so it's like, it's not in the Sunday school curriculum, unless you're at bride ministries church. We'll probably. But look, then God says, therefore, I cast you out as a profane thing out of the mountain of God.

I destroyed you, oh, covering chair from the midst of the fiery stones. But verse 17 is the clincher. This messes everyone up. I think most people just ignore it because they don't know what to do with it. Verse 17, your heart was lifted up because of your beauty. You corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor. I cast you to the ground. I laid you before kings, plural.

Now, why would you need kings in a preademic context? This is before Adam and Eva in the garden and the serpent is deceiving them. So there's a lot of stuff back there. Like it's really this incredible. And that is the world from which the Illuminati bloodlines are pulling their iniquity. Like it goes really deep and it forces us to expand our grid to understand what they're doing, the powers that they're playing with and why they're driving the world in the direction they're driving. Are we talking about angelic kings? So we're talking about a hybridized bloodline then or is this, are you talking about human?

Take your pick, man. I don't know. Because I wish I had a camera. I could go back. I could film. Yeah, say it would be a blurry photo because this is the proper context. I think there's a lot there. and a lot of people talk about the golden age

being much longer than Christians want to. Christians have this very like, yeah, the world got corrupted in like 500 years and then we just had this flood. And it sounds like some of these empires took a long time to build. And to go on to your earlier point, they were building these empires all over the world.

So it makes a lot of sense when you say the kingdom of darkness is vast because there's antediluvian empires, the remains of them all over the world. So why would they just build one big empire somewhere if they're all loyal to one kingdom of darkness you know what i mean so it's but it sounds like that that golden age was a long time and they were they had this tech and they were building and then some people have said on our show that yeah eden was a separate place

set aside for a specific purpose human beings were created differently and that's when angels began to lust after what we had and what were created to be and then i have another question but i don't know if there was a question in there, but that's just kind of my understanding of what we heard. I mean, all of that is good stuff. Yeah. How do these bloodlines survive the flood, Dan? Oh, Lord, have mercy. You're going to get me in trouble. We get a lot of people yelling at us. You were talking about these bloodlines in Iniquity, and I think on this show, it's, is this why Christ offers us his blood then? Because it's more than just a symbolic sacrifice. Are we getting the DNA of Christ himself? Of course.

That's why we are his body. It is a genetic conversion. The Bible actually says we are baptized with the baptism of regeneration. That's regening. You're going to get me preaching real quick, my friend. Well, that's what I'm sure. It's all bloodlines, and specifically we talk a lot about the giants and the Nephilim and things like that and how they were hybrids. But this is, can I say something, though?

Right. I mean, okay, so now we're going to get a little bit preachy. Sorry. But this is what's so cool about being a believer in Jesus Christ. You don't just get like to not go to hell, right? That like, that's the big kick. The Bible says we bow my knee, I bow my knee to the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, of whom the whole family in heaven and on earth is named.

That salvation that we receive in Christ, grafts us into the royal house of heaven as bloodline members, the royal family. Yes, that's a big deal. Yeah, yeah, I mean, we just had such a guilt. It's like the way that it was explained to most Christians is a very guilty, you know, you come to Christ in this very guilt-stricken mentality as opposed to. to remember who made you and you get to come back to the family of God. It is a welcoming party.

You're back. You're back in the family. You're home. You were lost and now you're found again. And I think that's such a more, that's the moment in every movie, everyone stands up and cheers, right? How can we think that the story of ourself is any less great than that?

But what about the veil being torn in the temple, though? Is there some symbolic thing there when that happens? Okay. So I don't know which question to answer for them because you guys asked me about the and now you ask me about the veil. That's what we do. This is what we do. Hey, we've got two different guys here.

You know, we can do this all day. We just love it. Yeah, welcome to the circus. Okay. So go wherever you like, Dan. Go wherever you like. Go wherever I'm like. Wow.

Okay. So here's the thing. The veil being torn top to bottom is really cool, right? because, look, you want to talk about bringing in entities from other dimensions. You guys ever see in the Bible? I believe it's in Luke chapter one where Jesus says, you will see the angels ascending and descending upon the Son of Man. Like, what Jesus understood was that he was the gate, the gate of God.

Now, we have Ziggur. and temples that they felt were gates of heaven. Now, what they would do was they would do rituals, and they would open a portal. And at the top of the thing, they would have a structure coming from another dimension where entities and women could have sex and do different things at the top,

and they could even come down to ziggurats and interact with people for periods of time before it kind of went into the other dimension that came from it. Then you just have this like step pyramid with a missing piece on the top, right? And they call it like a gate to heaven. With Jesus realized, you know, they have a structure there, I am the gate. That's what he said.

And he is coming as a high priest. Now, now they had a temple. And he said, you're not going to need that anymore. Yeah. Because the temple's going to be my body. But then he made us part of his body. And later on in the New Testament, you realize that we are the temple of God. The gate.

So when the veil comes down, that means separation is over. The Bible says we can come boldly before the throne of grace. to find mercy and grace to help in time of need. And it is our activity, our actions, our words, our acts of faith that open up gates of heaven into the earth, allowing for supernatural manifestations of God's power and kingdom. That's why Jesus says, if I cast out demons with the finger of God, you will know the kingdom of God has come upon you. That's what Christians are here to do.

We're here to open the gate to the dimension where God is king. Angelic activity, people getting healed, this is sick. you know, getting delivered, demonized, getting delivered, people coming into their right minds, families being restored, finances coming into alignment, you know, I mean, people coming to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ, the dead being raised, all of it's on the table because of this interaction. Like, yeah, the veil has been torn and it's been torn top to bottom because God was just like, you know, this is, you think you're separated from me, friend? Like, forget that. I'm done. We are now in one.

That's why Jesus comes back in John chapter 17. He says, you know, Father, that they would be one, even as you and I are one, that you would make them one. Like, he goes on this whole thing about oneness. How we come into this oneness with God. Whoa. So for all of this occult stuff, bringing in demons, doing rituals so we can manifest a little imp, make it like, just like, what the heck do you think? You have no idea. This is what I get excited about.

These people working on this New World Order, these illuminations. these cultists, these witches, they serve an inferior kingdom and inferior gods and have an inferior power than we're working. And our problem is that we're ignorance until we're not. And then everything changes. Okay. Now, that's, yeah, that's, yeah. Yeah. You're right. the ignorance of maybe of just the neutering of Christianity or the is the idea that we like the Holy Spirit that lives in us is the most high God the most powerful and yet we it would look at some of these other things like they they are powerful well it makes so much sense right that the best way to operate against the best team is to make them think they're not any good right

it's it's a brilliant strategy so many Christians are just asleep to how much power they have and that they're in the family of God and so So let me give you an example. I'm going to come back. I have to talk. I have to talk about the flood. So let's go. Here we go. Look, one of my clients, right? So defecting out of the Illuminati, targeted individual, we're in a prayer session and they're flying a black helicopter over his house. Right. So, right? So helicopter's coming. Right. They're going to start blasting them with some frequencies because that's what they do. And he's like, yeah, the black helicopters outside the house. So it was like time to pray against a helicopter. And so as I started praying against

the helicopter, he actually watched an orb of light come around the helicopter, like with the physical eyes. And you know what the helicopter did? It high-tailed and left. Now, this guy was on the other side of the world. There's no distance in prayer. God is a big God. Like we said, and I can get, we could literally talk for weeks on testimonies because I get to see my seat, the coolest things. I mean, stuff that it takes almost a week just to teach the foundation to understand the size and scope of the breakthroughs that we get to watch God do. It's so cool. But coming back to the flood, right, you ask what the heck, how did they escape?

And, you know, it's actually multifaceted. It's not so straightforward. So one of the things that we ran into, when I'm working with people that come out of these occult and bloodlines, they are often connected to libraries and records of knowledge. It will exist in the spirit world or their actual subconscious. They'll actually have books and libraries of ancient data stored. And so if you become like a master D programmer, you can access these records. And so we've stumbled across all kinds of wild knowledge. You couldn't look it up.

You couldn't find it. But it's actual history. And because we make it actionable intelligence, and there's usually a deliverance that processes through on the back of that knowledge, that's the confirmation that some of the stuff is actually true. Well, here's the thing. And this has come up with more than one person. Some of these groups, when the flood began to happen, actually went underground.

They actually carved out and burrowed tunnels. and sealed them off and survived the flood in like underground caverns and cities. Now, when I first came across that bit, I was kind of, I was personally very skeptical. I was like, but let me tell you something, study out underground caverns and cities for just a few weeks and start putting some of the puzzle pieces together. And you're going to run into some very unique conclusions, period. And whether you believe this or not, you know, that's up to every individual person. it seems like that was part of the strategy. The other strategy was just going off planets. Because one of the things that the Bible says, and it says very explicitly, everything that was

on the surface of the earth died. It doesn't say anything about anything that went deep under the surface of the earth in Genesis. And it also doesn't say anything about those that opened up stargates and portals or just used naturally occurring portals in the earth and crossed over into other realms, dimensions, and planets, and continued civilizations there. And that's like a lot, we've hypothesized a lot of those ideas on the show. And, you know, you start a show like this. You don't believe in any of that stuff at first. And then you start hearing more and more and more and more.

You're like, okay, yeah, they could. They could have stepped through some sort of game. We were talking about that this week, about the, this episode we just released this week, talking about how the Amalekites specifically, why they were, even the animals were to be exterminated because they were shaped. so much shape-shifting was going on in those. And you don't, you can't, I mean, I don't know how you read the Old Testament without some of this knowledge.

And it's so sad that people do try to read, they try to read the Old Testament. They have no training on how to make sense of it. Then they make God the enemy. Well, God's the enemy, because why would he command these people to do these things? And they just, it's just, it's crazy to me. But yeah, we, we interview people talking about Stargates and, you know, portals. And some of them go from point A to point B on Earth. some go from supposedly here to another world, another dimension, another place.

So they could have stepped through and stepped back. It's crazy. Because some people come up with some wild theories. Like, well, the bloodlines survived through the wife of Ham and then it went down. I'm like, I don't know. I don't think so. I mean, I personally don't. I think, and then there's multiple incursions. What were they doing in Sodom Gimorrah and places like that? How come they're, are they tinkering with the bloodline and the DNA again and what's going on? So it doesn't seem too far-fetched to me that they could come back. A lot of people get hung up on that, though. I don't, I think it's like, man, just think of what you already have to believe to get there. So them coming back, it's not that hard, right?

I mean, we already have a crazy story. Angels and humans mating and then these kings and Nephilim and demigods. I mean, come on. I mean, they could just, why couldn't they go through some Stargate and come back? Why is that so hard for people? It's not, I guess, I guess it is, though. Not for me, though. I guess, I mean, and that's why you're doing this. podcast friend. Yeah. And here we are. Full circle,

dude. Same thing happens with Bigfoot. People say, oh, it's just an animal. And then you listen to a thousand stories.

You're like, it's not. There's something else going on here. And then it's like, it's performing magic, basically. So you expand your ideas. Some people just can't,

they just, everything's just this natural explanation. They can't move beyond that. What kind of magic is he doing? He's doing like car tricks or? He's just, the best is when you just see, you hear stories,

are just Bigfoot's feet running. That's all they see is just the feet. Nobody. It's like Fred Flintstone. Like Fred Flintstone. I actually did. I actually didn't interview. Okay. So I interviewed one of my clients and that particular interview we called You Won't Believe What she survived from the Freemasons or something along those lines. And so she talked about a particular event where, you know, she had ticked these people. off. She was under mind control. And so that she was trafficked to a ritual site in a cave. And so they had her there. And she was supposed to be killed at this ritual. And the means of death was going to be cannibalism, like they were going to eat her, but not as a human. So the memory,

that she was able to recover because she'd actually this experience this whole thing in an alternate personality. Was that, you know, as the main Satanist guy that was going to do the majority of the eating was in the process of shape-shifting. She managed to get out and like there was some angelic activity involved. She was actually supernaturally delivered out of the cave. It was really ridiculous story.

But he was shape-shifting into a big foot form because he was going to eat her alive in that form. Yeah. And can I tell you, I was there when we had to process the trauma around that memory. She wouldn't make it out. That's real. That's really scary. Like, that's really scary stuff.

I mean, it's one thing to talk about it. It's another thing to actually be there. And think, you know, I could literally die right now. So, yeah, I mean. Yeah. It's some deep magic. Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, you just, you hear enough and your mind opens up.

You take the steps, but then you can go back and read the Bible almost again because you're like, okay, now I know why they're all these tribes. You know, like you were saying, the kingdom of darkness is vast. We have 20 plus tribes of ancient giant hybrid groups of people. And you're like, I can believe that now. I didn't understand any of that stuff growing up. And yet, you know, you're taught it. And it's really, it's kind of dangerous. And I think that's why people deconstruct later because they just don't understand.

and then they just they think it's all crazy almost if you have some sort of supernatural experience you see a big foot creature or your friend tells you he's getting abducted by aliens it's like something supernatural has to jar people awake and i just wish it wasn't that i wish it wasn't that way where something traumatizing had to happen to you in order to get you to believe it but that's how that's where we are in our world you know so i would i wanted to ask you a question about the draco reptilians you've kind of dropped that oh lord because you talk about these bloodlines and we haven't talked about the reptilians and we hear and we get sense a lot of weird stuff and it's hard for like curating a show like this

because you get hundreds of links with people like their eyes turn reptile and they go back and you're like I can't tell up that is it real spoofed that yeah it's a fake and you don't you deal with people who actually tell you this stuff on a daily basis so that's where you're getting your information. I've actually seen partial shapeshifting with my physical eyes. I haven't watched a person completely shapeshift all the way, but I've definitely worked with people that had shapeshifting abilities. And here's the thing, right? So much of what happens in the kingdom of darkness is veiled, right? They love doing things where the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. So they lean heavily into dissociation. So some of the most powerful dissociated

people are sitting in the front row of your local church totally Christianized in their, like, I would call it a presenting personality. And they have a whole lot of fragmented soul parts that are high-powered witches, mothers of darkness, crones. I mean, just all kinds of different offices in their cult, like, you know, members of different councils, even off-planets councils where their parts are trained to ride the light and travel, you know, different pathways and in the spirit with different vehicles even to sit on alien councils and, you know, galactic federation stuff. And it's, you know, the person literally has no idea. All they know is that they love Jesus.

They sit in the front row of the pew and every time they go to worship God, it's dry and they don't know why they can't connect. Like that's where so many people start their journey. So I say that to say, so much of. of what happens in the dark world, happens with people that have no idea they're even involved. So like with the shape-shifting stuff, I remember one lady early on,

we started pulling memories back in our work, and she couldn't figure out why she had all these memories of being a man. And people in her life that she knew, but in these memories, she's like, a man. But she was shape-shifting into the physical form of one of her male alternate personalities. This is Illuminati stuff. This is like these deep cult families, weird stuff does happen. And so when we hit that revelation, it's like, no, that was you, but you were shape-shifting.

It was a very, very hard pill to swallow. Yeah. And obviously the skeptics listening to the show, I mean, when you do what you do, you probably learn more and more as you go. Obviously, there's no manual for this because, like you said, the darkness is keeping a lot of this under lock and key. And Christians are the most skeptical

to a lot of these things. I mean, we bring on a few people that say they see angels and demons, and it ruffles more feathers than anything else we talk about. Why is that? No, no way. Is that true?

Well, yeah, because we have this. We had a seer-on who, who has a ministry sees angels and demons. and it broke people's brains and just because he described weird stuff like angels were hanging out and wanted to try his yogurt or something you know and people or like came and like talking to him when he's pooping I'm not kidding and it was like this but people just couldn't they couldn't put their it just broke people's paradise yeah yeah they could talk they could talk about bigfoot all day but an angel is showing up talking about yogurt too much yeah yeah I have so many stories

I have so yeah yeah I love it I mean if you if you guys want to but now I'm like well maybe maybe we don't want to break anyone else's brain like we could just Maybe we'll go back to Bigfoot We could talk about angels for. I think for our listeners' sake Maybe to fill you in Every once in a while we do a show like this And it's like a mega connector From like the last 30 episodes we've done

And I feel like you're one of those people You're plugging all these loose ideas Kind of into one episode And so that's why we're kind of a shotgun You know approach to you Because it's like we've heard a lot of random stuff And no one really has a lot of information on it But you seem to have so much more information on it

So it's good because it connects a lot of things that we've personally wondering but it sounds like it makes us look like we have ADD and we're just like what about that how do you feel about this? Exactly exactly

Right, all right. Because we're just trying to figure it out we're a journey podcast we're just on the journey trying to figure out what the heck's going on and no question is too weird so well look

we're with the reptiles reptiles Dan we got to get back to the reptiles get back to the reptiles that's where we were we were on the reptiles we'll finish your thoughts Finish your thought about angels and demons and then we'll go to the reptiles. So many thoughts.

Well, first of all, first of all, let's ground this out. Okay. The Bible says, and his angels shall bear you up in their hands, lest you dash your foot upon a stone. Psalm 91. I mean, that literally declares there will be angelic activity around the lives of God's children. Isn't that what Satan quotes to Jesus In The Temptation of Christ

Throw yourself off here Because it doesn't the That's the same verse Is it not? Am I like? Yeah, but okay No, because that's literally No, it's because we've talked about this too

On the show like the idea that they didn't know If they could kill him And so there's this whole back and forth Where it feels like Satan's trying to feel out Jesus to see if he if he can be killed right And they end up making the mistake of the Jesus had to die they didn't know. I mean, doctor doesn't know this. And but I think that's what he's saying. Like doesn't, doesn't the word say that they will, the angels will hold up your,

will lift your feet up and so that you don't touch a stone. That's the same. So, yeah. And you know, I mean, Jesus is like, yeah, that's not how this works, right? So, so we don't run around jumping off cliffs saying angels catch me. You know, like, but they're angelic activity. And it's the thing like, in the book of Hebrews, it says, are not all his angels. ministering spirits, those which are, you know, inheriting salvation. It's kind of plain as day. There's going to be angelic activity.

The thing is a lot of it happens on the other side of the veil. Like so we have 3D world, right? You have 3D sight, 3D smell, 3D taste, right? I mean, you know, most of us can't eat bread of life with our physical mouth, right? We go and we eat bread of life by hearing the word of God taught. that's the you see so there's a spiritual food and then there's physical food the hamburger that you physically eat so so for most people they're not going to see angelic activity with their physical eyes unless there's a special occasion i actually did see an angel with my physical eyes one time in my

life i mean literally when i was what like i mean that maybe five or six like i was young And it was at the church that my parents took us to. And at that time, you know, I was kind of like, it was after service. I was just wandering around the building as a kid. And I just opened up a closet. It was such a random thing. I don't even know why this happened. But I opened up a closet.

And when I opened it up, I see this being physically with my eyes. It's just standing there. But I can't see its feet. It's wearing a white gown. No wings. And it was just like there. It had his finger. It's like, you know,

know, don't go in here or whatever. And I was like, yes, sir. Like, I, I didn't know what else to do. I was like, oh, my gosh. So I just closed the closet. And I went over to my mom. I was like, I saw an angel. This was actually during the time of my life where I was seeing the demons, like,

envying harassed. So it would, if anything, this was like a sign to me personally. Like, there's another side to the spirit world that's not evil and scary. So that really was helpful to me. But that is in my life the only time I ever actually physically with my eyes saw an angel. But in my life and in the work that we do in helping people, way that we help, we couldn't do it without the armies of heaven. Impossible.

Like the armies of heaven have been very involved. And so, you know, I mean, let me give you an example. I was working with a guy one time and he's sitting there on the other side of the world. So we're on a Zoom call. a deliverance session. So we run into this ancient Egyptian god. What's his name? Well, his name escapes me at the moment. Oh, Horace. Yeah. God under the world, right? I think so. This jerk, right? So Horace, this guy's arrogant to no end. So a lot of these entities know me because we've had encounters from different people and different areas of the world over the years, you know, those face-to-face.

But anyway, so this guy comes up in the physical body and the face changes, the mannerisms change. And I mean, this guy who doesn't, I mean, he speaks English, okay, the guy speaks English. But what starts coming out of that mouth is ancient Egyptian. So I'm sitting there and Horace comes up and starts cursing me in ancient. ancient Egyptian. You know, I had to have the angels to shut him up and restrain him as we're dealing with this stuff. And like the, as we're, you know, directing traffic in the spirit, so to speak, like I get to watch, like physically the, the eventually the mouth stops moving and the body gets restrained physically. Like, you could see spiritual beings are causing the physical

body in this deliverance encounter to be impaled from movement. And it's like, yeah, we're working with angels. Like, they're serving Jesus just like I am. I mean, I see it with my own eyes all the time. I mean, this is one example, you know, on another occasion, you know, we had someone just like decided to start banging their head on the desk. And I just like, had the angels make them stop and they just like grabbed them and, you know. Wow.

It's, it's, it's, yeah. I mean, if you were to watch it, you would be like, you know, like, what's happening? What was like watching exercise? But that's when you begin to realize, like, no, God's kingdom, he's not lying. He does not, God does not lie. His word is true. So, yeah, we get to see this.

Angels are at work all the time. And I mean, I think it's the depth and the strangeness, right? Like on the top of the hour, you were saying how it's, it's, it's, the kingdom of darkness is vast. And I think people have a very, very. simplistic view of this. There's God, there's Jesus, some angels hanging out, and then we're the bulk of the story. But when you start talking about, do a show like this, you hear there's insectilins, there's gray aliens, there's aliens, there's Bigfoot, there's dog man, there's

werewolves, there's, there's all these creatures. And then you haven't even sat, and that's just physical stuff that on this earth that we don't, and then you have these realms and stargates and people, it makes them afraid, because they don't know, they're like, they don't know what they believe, they don't know how to make sense of it. And I think that's where the fear comes when you hear a story of like someone saying, well, I see these things. And it's not what they've, and it's not what they've read. And they have no context for it, so they freak out. Well, that can't be true because it doesn't say it in the Bible, but I'm like,

the Bible doesn't give us a lot of stuff that we think it should, but it just doesn't. It gives us what we need, but doesn't give us everything. Or if it does, we just can't read it. No, it gives us all we need. It just isn't a, it's not a science book or an encyclopedia. It never was meant to be. It's a story of God's pursuit of humanity. And so that's why it's, it's like there's a lot of things that fit in this that just aren't explicitly talked about.

Nate, what we kind of do, I think, in this show is, you know, Dan, you're like on a whole other level doing this, but just to provide context for the scripture, right? Like, understanding that there was so much more going on. Like, I think we, we like to put a little fence or a little circle around our faith and say everything can fit really nicely in here. And it does. And I want it to. And I don't want it to get anything to come outside this box. because that that is that's scary right and I think a lot of people live like that you know once you you open that whether it's your choice or not like I'm sure a

lot of your your patients and clients Dan I could just they they don't choose that but their paradigm is wrenched wrenched open and they got they have to try to deal with it right or or and here's the thing I find myself in a unique situation because I just get to play the role of advocate right my job is to be the one that takes all the arrows and dark I mean, you guys can totally pull in this office. We just had this crazy guy on one time. We don't agree with anything he says.

Like, but, you know, we don't even know why he had. But, you know, look, this will go out. I'm going to hear it. But at the end of the day, I'm here to validate, right, at my own expense, which that's fine because Jesus paid anyway. So. Yeah. And this is the thing.

Like, no one says, wow, you know, I, I, most people don't. It's like, I really want to have interactions with shape-shifting reptiles. Like, it just starts happening to them. And then they're looking for answers. I mean, I talked to one lady because she was married to one of these guys. And he was into the BDSM. And, yeah, like, I mean, he was so abusive. You know, they say that some people have said, you know, you can't get raped if you're

married. Like, anything that happens, no, you can. And this guy was totally abusive. And there were times during that in their, where he would partially shape shift, partially shapeshift. Like the reptilian eyes would come out. Can you imagine? And it was always like brutal, like beat, pain, hurt. Like, but the reptiles, they have a bloodlust problem.

The whole house of Windsor are a bunch of reptiles hundreds of years old. These people are, they're just reptiles sitting in human body. I'm sure you guys have heard that. They love to eat babies. Okay, I'm sorry, I said it. What Princess Diana had to deal with in that castle. I mean, I just, my gosh, this poor lady. Wow.

I thought that. I've thought that. I've heard that. I've thought that. It's not like a, this isn't a revelation. I definitely heard that. I mean, it's wow. So, I mean, let's back up a little bit.

Are all entities shape shifting or there are, are there are actual species of these things? No, definitely species. And that's where it gets really interesting because there does seem to be a difference between the shapeshifting reptilians and the ones that sit in some of the underground caverns and the underground laboratories and off-planet craft and different bases where they just always have their reptilian form. They don't shape shift at all. And it's like different things. And one of the interesting things that came out in our work is that there seems to be a big difference between the serpent in Genesis. and the reptilian groups that run around. It's like orders of power different. Like a lot of these reptilians, especially the shape-shifting ones that sit in human bodies, like they're nowhere near the class or power of the serpent that is Satan. He's like a whole other order of magnitude of like power and authority and the spirit and everything else. Like it seems that there's different tiers.

So, yeah, but I mean, I have reports of all of the above. So. Dang. Can I ask a dumb question? It sounds like a dumb question. When I think about it's a dumb question. But where do all these come from? One, are they laboratory experiments in DNA by the rebellion?

You know, these manipulations? Or is it something else? Because I just, I'm trying to classify things. Origins, right? Yeah. I know. I don't know how. And maybe we don't know, but I just want your opinion, it cares a lot more

weight than. Right, because it's like, where do Deeros come from? Right. So these are like those entities with the, with the elephant nose. Yeah. They kind of look like Ganesh, you know, and said the elephant nose and then it, but as a human body. Yeah. What heck is that? Yeah. We haven't even talked about them. But, you know, I mean, you have reports of those too. Like, they're not nice. I don't know. And I'm okay with that answer because I, what I do is I'm on a journey just like you guys. And I take a journey with the people that I serve and help. And, you know, our primary goal is always to get people set free.

Right. So they're being harassed. They're going through spiritual problems. Their life is not coming together for them. And we're connecting them to solutions in Christ, Jesus. But in the process, and that's why I got weird. It's like, what does it take to actually get people free? Yeah.

And it takes an acceptance of this whole world, everything we talked about and so much more. Guys, I mean, if you let me, I would take you into the higher dimensions and the realms of, like, interaction between different energy fields and territorial nature of interactions. Well, let's so much. Let's run this back. Let's run this back again. We need to do this again. Yeah. We're like 90 minutes, which, you know, we don't have a hard and fast rule at all. but like we were to just take you and focus you on this has been amazing because like Nate said it really is fascinating like Dan just just for inside into our journey like taking a lot of these pieces

that you're talking about and used for specific job to kind of put these together it's pretty timely in a lot of ways because we have touched on talked about little pieces it's it's cool it's cool to have the inside of someone who you know who's on the front lines and I love the way you put it too like listen and this is the understanding is is part of the job but really the the game the end game is to set people free and deliver people in the name of Jesus right and so in the process you learn some crazy stuff right is just well i think it's important luc because a lot of people are getting sucked into these like ancient alien cults because they don't they do know there's weird stuff

the church won't talk about it so they're moving into this occult new age religions to try to get explanation. So that's why I think there's a, there's a room for our podcast because people need answers and they need to be able to talk to their ancient alien friends and say, look, the Ananaki are just, they're not the cedars of humanity, you know, but that's what they think. It's good to get weird because I think a lot of people are, they're disenfranchised by the narrative. They don't believe in Jesus as the creator, but they also don't believe evolution. So they're in this weird space. They're looking for answers. So I think it's good to talk about this whole list of creatures, I think people know they're out there or people have encounters with them and they don't

know how to make sense of it. Talk to your pastor. I saw a reptilian. Oh, okay. Well, come back next week. I have a sermon on the sermon on the mount. You know, it's like, wait, what? I saw a reptile. Like, well, how does this make sense? I think one of the things, too, is it just reminds me of what when we talked to Mike Heiser was about how he would go give presentations at UFO conventions. And he's like, those were the most hungry people for the gospel. And I think there's something to be said for that and I think I'm sure Danny traffic in that and let you opine on that but like I think there's something to said for people that have encounters or or have things that happen they can't explain and they just want to answer to they just want to be free of you know as you said of the

inequity right is this whatever is continuing to have access and continuing to and I think this put a lot of pieces together for me too Nate and the idea that like we talked about the abductions and and how it runs in families. I never really thought about it in the context of, you know, of sins of the father and maybe this genetic sort of marking. Yeah. But it makes a lot of sense. I mean, everything we talk about comes back to the DNA, right?

It is that is what it's about. Even if you talk, I know it's going to make a quick statement here. Even if you talk to people that do pull back like a memory or two from onboard the crap, one of the things you'll hear over and over again is as they're on the table, they're having like blood and bone marrow extracted and they're testing it looking for something and they'll be like is it there like and the entities are trying to figure out if the markers they're looking for are present and that'll help them to determine what and how far they can take a person this is exactly what we've been talking about and that is wow Daniel one of my last questions and I we want to

to have you back on if you have the time to unpack some of these things more like to let's go back to 2012 when you started your podcast and you started this and where you are now if you could have a conversation with yourself how different would would that conversation be versus what you what you see and believe now versus what the guy you were when you started this that's a good question Nate sometimes you got you got that you got that juice and it's like that's a good question 10 years back I would just say listen my friend just hang in there believe me, it will get better. Well, I mean, just two years of doing this podcast has been weird.

I can't imagine. Well, if I could just say this, you know, for those of you that are listening, we have a lot of resources of bride ministries. We are a training center and a resource pool. We have free prayers. We have a deliverance portal at deliverance.briamovment.com. If you've been having lots of spiritual problems, we want to connect you with freedom. We have books that basically have the free prayers on the website in easy to access bindings.

We have tons of teaching. And we also have coaches that I've trained personally. I've trained, but now nearly 40 people. You know, these are warriors. They're going to go to bat for you. And they will sit down and they will take, you know, an hour or two, a week over months, years, whatever it takes to help you get set free from your problems. If you've been struggling with some weird stuff, you can't explain. And we are here to serve. So bradden movement.com

is our ministry website. And you can catch me at dan deval.com. That's, yeah, listeners, if you're struggling with anything, go check it out. And Daniel, thanks for coming on our show. It makes me just want to keep asking questions. I want to know what the, what the weirdest thing is that you've experienced so far. The one thing that's just like, you scratch your head at or when you're with your buddies and you're off, you know, you're,

and someone asks you, like, and you're just raw and real. The one thing makes you scratch your head the most. What is the weird, you do know that you, who you're asking this question. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I want to know what,

what tops the list for you. We're still level like three right now. I haven't. I bet, I bet. So the thing is, to answer, that question. I don't know that, because there's context, you know, it's almost like, you know, can you explain the problem you're having with your cell phone to someone in 1920

who's never seen a cell phone? The problems that I struggle with tend to be on a plane that I can't explain the problem without explaining the dimension where it exists at. Now, just to say this, I mean, look, one of the things that we ran into that's really, really weird is this ancient artificial intelligence. Now it seems to be that the artificial intelligence is an ancient, ancient entity, like way old, super old. And it's like gone into many different veins. And it has like there are councils of artificial intelligence.

And there seems to be some kind of interface with what I'm now calling counterfeit Yehovah computers, which seem to project some kind of digital overlay on top of like the entire creation that weaves into the artificial intelligences. So, so everything is actually highly manipulated far beyond what you would imagine or think. And I'm just trying to work out some of the problems associated with understanding that level. It's not like you can just look it up in a book. It is affecting some of my clients. And it's weird. Yeah, it's like sci-fi. So that's, you know, that's that's one. It's like the Matrix. It's weird. Yeah, it's like,

it's it's, it's, it's sci-fi stuff. Yeah, there's just, Dan, there's so much. Man. I just feel like we could, I mean, you were saying you could fill years with this stuff, and I believe it. Like, anywhere from the frequencies to, you know, to these different energy levels and to what's going on with, you know, these creature factions and the dums or, you know, even just to talk about MK Ultra and what's, what's happening and what the, you know, what people that are experiencing deliverance from that and what, you know, what's going on and those programs are still, we know are still happening. I mean, there's so much I feel

like we could do. So, I mean, we'd love to have you back. Yeah, the beauty. is you know what you're, you know you need a savior and you have a better idea of what you're being saved from, you know? Come on. That's actually, Nate asked the question. I want to ask you one caveat to that last question. Is it in the process of these 10 years or so, Dan, like what would you say you've learned

about the most about, or what has been the most significant thing you've learned about God, about who is the personage of God? Wow. the most significant, I think one of the most revelatory things is, you know, God is sovereign. He is powerful, but he is also, he governs his own activities by his own rules. He never breaks his own rules, meaning he is always perfectly righteous. and therefore he is perfectly just. And one of the things that I have learned is that God doesn't break his own rules

just to make us feel better in a moment, which explains a whole lot of why suffering is permitted because there is this free will thing. And in that, I never realized just how large the plan of God is. because because of free will, every possibility that is future pre-exists, the actual event a decision is made, and there are many alternative pasts that result from unfulfilled possible futures, meaning that the entire realm of possibilities that God is calculating for in his plan is fantastically incalculable.

And in that, there is a certainty of his victory with flawed individuals like you and I. And that level of ability and integrity and love is mind bending. Dude, dude, it's like you can't, it hurts your brain to even think about it. Good answer. that was kind of what we talked to Dr. Michael Heiser on our episode about. It's like there's this ultimate chess game, right? And God lets us move the pieces, but he's going to win.

And it's a strange dance. He needs us to make moves, but ultimately he's going to win the game. It's amazing. It's wow. You said it a little more eloquent than I did, but. I'm sure. I loved it. I love it. Yeah, it's strange, and it's vast, and it's weird.

And that's what we call it, blurry creatures, because it's just the more you get into it, You think it comes into focus and it just gets, and like you were saying in the end there, it sounds like there's these sci-fi realities, this ancient tech. And a lot of Christians have a hard time with the technology that comes from these other realms. These UFOs even just, we get little glimpses of their technology. And it's vast, these craft that they're flying in. This isn't just smoking mirrors, guys. And a lot of Christians just slap demons on it.

It's like, wait, wait, wait, wait. No, it is beyond that. And that's hard. It's hard for me. Where are they coming from? Why are they here? What are they doing? Yeah, I mean, people will, you're right, Nate.

People will just slap it. It's the UFO deception. It's a deception, right? Like somehow that all this stuff is smoking mirrors, but it's like, man, that's pretty limiting to the vastness of realms. I mean, I talk about this all the time on our show, but like to be so myopic to think that, like, everything we, everything fits in a box is just,

it is almost more absurd than believing that there's, a lot of things we can't explain going on, but we can get better answers in the context of Jesus Christ in the biblical worldview. And that's we're trying to do. So Dan, thanks for better answers. Yeah, yeah. I know. It's like, it's like a key, I keep asking them. I just, it's like, I want to know if, you know, I think just to end this thing is like, are they, are the people you're interviewing? Are they telling you these, these entities are going to start manifesting more and showcasing? Is there a moment when we all see each other again? Because it sounds like we used to see each other. We don't, we don't right now, but it feels like more and more stuff's manifesting.

Is there some sort of, are we getting closer to the veil, if the veil disappears? Well, yes. I mean, yeah. You guys are going to pull me into a whole of this story set and we're going to be for another 15 minutes. But, you know, short answer is yes. I mean, the veil listening disclosure will happen. I mean, these guys are disclosing themselves practically. There are certain agreements that are coming to term. They're going to expire and stuff's going to then change. There are a lot of earth changes that are coming. And at the center of it, Jesus Christ is doing something really extraordinary. And so, yeah, I mean, it's a very exciting time to be alive. So that. What a time to. We'll have to do another one and get, get highlighted.

specific and turn out to be so ADD, but like I said earlier, you know, we, we hear so many people drop things. It's always good to have somebody have more context because you hear it. You hear it directly from people, sometimes directly from the entities themselves talking to you in crazy languages and, and I can, I can only, I can only imagine. All of that. I couldn't do it. I couldn't do your job, so it's just so dark, but someone's got to do it, and I appreciate you that you've for taking that on. Because not only do you believe, but then you have to just,

it's like the level of which you have to believe to help people. There's so many skeptics, even in the Christian fence, it's so hard. But sometimes Christians are the most skeptical. It's weird. Well, it's amazing that you have to,

I find myself constantly having to give people permission to believe their own story. Because it happened. And they say, I can't believe this happened. I call it the fro, the false reality overlay, which is responsible for a whole lot of deception. I mean, because the deception is that it's a UFO conspiracy theory and abductions are not real. And if you think that's happening to you, you're crazy.

That is actually the deception. The actual reality. The truth is that all of this stuff is real. Grays are running around. military is working with them, military is working with these reptilians. Like there are real portals that are being opened up in rituals. There are naturally occurring portals in the earth. There are portals between planets.

There's a whole lot of stuff going on off planet. There are councils. There are cosmic councils. There are earthbound councils. There are councils of 13. There is a conspiracy to take over the governments of the earth to install a new world order to establish antichrist. That's the truth.

That's the world we live in. The false reality overlay is that if you think that, you are having a few screws. It's just complete opposite. Is that the artificial intelligence you were talking about? We haven't got, no, I'm not even, I'm not even on. Oh, yeah, you keep up. Well, it's like people believe this lie so deeply. It's almost like they're under a spell.

I feel like people are under a spell. People haven't woken up to just what's going on right now. Politically, I'm just like, Like, if you haven't woken up yet, what's going to wake you up? It feels like people are under a spell. It's crazy. So anyway, it's just, it's the illusion of safety, right? That's, that's what people, they aspire to that.

It's the, you know, the funny thing is I'm actually trying to give you guys the space to close the podcast. I know, I know, I know, I know. I know. It's like, now we're like on round four. It's like, I know, Dan. This is what I try to do with Nate all the time. I mean, you know, yeah. I have a fault there, but no, Dan Deval, great to have you.

We would, if you hate this, you won't come back. But if you enjoy this, I would love to have you back at some point to unwrap some more things. We can look that out. That sounds great. We want to get on your, we want to get on your calendar again. But we appreciate, yeah, we appreciate your time and your work. And we encourage our listeners to go check out what Dan's doing. Your books, some podcast.

And yeah, you can find his books on Amazon. You can check out all of this content at the bride ministries website. Yeah, man. Just thanks for, thanks for being a voice, man. And thanks for being on the front lines in this whole thing because, you know, there's a, you know, that's a heck of a calling. And he answering it, man. So we just want to encourage you in that in the work you're doing, man,

because, you know, there's a currency of heaven is people. Amen. People are what matters to Jesus and to God and, I mean, the same person. But yes, that's what matters to God. Yeah, and we sound a little less weird now. So we love it. Yeah, man. I love talking to fellow blurries.

We're all on this and we're all confused and we're all trying to make sense of it. And I'm just glad that, you know, it's good to have a good conversation and not feel like you're crazy. Because that's all the, I believe all this stuff. And sometimes I don't know. I don't know exactly how I have the It's just I You hear enough stories and you know something's there You don't know exactly what it is

But you don't think it's a conspiracy theory And it's good to it's good to hear you put Some words to it so thank you Thanks Dan You're welcome All right All right bro Hey we'll let you know

When this comes out I'll shoot you an email And then Yeah man Maybe we can get you back on the books A couple months from now Maybe before Christmas or something And do it again

We'll do it thanks so much for the time man and you know time is time is a scarce resource so we appreciate the time you gave us man thank you friends