Blurry Creatures - EP: 129 CERN with Gary Wayne

Episode Date: September 27, 2022

We welcome back Gary Wayne to talk about CERN. What is the large Hadron Collider? Are they simply smashing particles together or is that a cover for something more occult? Is it actually a portal or another way into different dimensions? The history of CERN is more rooted in the occult than people realize. Are these "scientists" trying to discover the god particle so they can use it to seduce and eventually control humankind for good? Gary ads a lot of good info to an already loaded topic.  Guest: https://genesis6conspiracy.com intro song: Sky At Night: Lucy in Disguise.  contact: [e-mail] blurrycreatures.com Socials instagram.com/blurrycreatures facebook.com/blurrycreatures twitter.com/blurrycreatures Music Kyle Monroe: tinytaperoom.com Aaron Green: https://www.instagram.com/aaronkgreen/ Mastering: ironwingstudios.com Outro Song: TimeCop1983: timecop1983.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And this is called the Atman particle or the Atma particle. And it's talked about in, you haven't guessed it, the Up and Shads and the Vedas. And it is a very, very interesting particle. A, it's invisible. Even though they're going subatomic, they can't detect this particle. It's that hard to find. And it is a particle that they believe

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we're bringing on the encyclopedia, the myth, the man, the legend himself, Gary Wayne today. He knows a lot of facts and a lot of names and a lot of places. And sometimes you're like, wait a minute, I need to Google that. I need to Google that. There's a few people we have on the show that are like walking encyclopedias. He's one of them. Dr. Judd Bird and Derek Gilbert like the first to come on top of my head that just can rattle things off.

Tim? Yeah, I mean... That's why we say we're two dummies. Yeah, we just get to sit and absorb some of this. It's really, it's really fun. So, great to have Gary Wayne back, of course, author of the Genesis 6 conspiracy theory. We've had them all on the show a couple times.

It's returning for a third time. And Nate, we're going to talk about... CERN. That's right. We talk about a little bit here and there. But we're going to dive into it again. And we're going to give you more of a historical context to how it sprung up its roots back to Buddhism other crazy things for the Vedas to the mystery the mystery Babylon seven seven sacred sciences and all the way back to the watchers yeah which is

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No, you're now entering The Bones of it. The Blurryverse. Let's get Gary on the show. Welcome back to the show. Welcome back to Blurry Creatures, Gary Wayne, author of the Genesis 6th conspiracy. You've been on the show a couple times.

Thanks for coming back. on last time we talked, you said you were writing a Giants book, and maybe we'll talk a little bit about that specifically, but I appreciate you coming back on blurry creatures. Yeah, thank you for inviting me back. And I think I wrote almost my last lines to the last chapter. Of course, the last chapter is a little bit longer than I anticipated, so it's probably going to be like three chapters or four when I split it up. But it's going to be somewhere between chapter 81 and 83 will be the end of the book. So it's, it's as I had promised to be smaller than the first book. I just didn't say how much smaller. So it's not a whole lot smaller. Count those words,

Gary. Count those words. You've been on the show before. So you might, you might know what we talk a lot about Bigfoot on our show. Did you discover anything new about Bigfoot while writing this book? I wasn't really getting into the Neffle or the Bigfoot or Saskwatch or Yeti sort of aspect of it. So that is, that's kind of a future book that I was going to put in maybe different kinds of the Nephilim and stuff like that. But that's not really the theme of this book, although I'll touch on it just here or there. I need to group that with all the different sort of looks to these kind of creations that are out there. Right. So, you know, there's more than just the, what I think that the, the, the big foot, Sasquatch Yeti are related within the larger group of Nephilim creation, a similar kind of

creation, I think, perhaps even going back to some specific gods, which is really sort of gets my attention, but there's like the dog nephalum, there are the lion nephalum, there are the bird nephalum, and of course, the serpent nephalum that I tend to talk mostly about. And then there's, Other creations, too, there's the little ones that we did a show on. So I think I want to package that maybe all in sort of a specific book. This one here is about giants. It's going to be Genesis 6 Conspiracy Part 2, and it's going to have a subtitle, something like prehistory and prophecy.

It'll be a little bit longer than that because they always want to say how this helps with this or does that. So it'll be more of a statement for the subtitle. So it goes really deep into fallen angels. It goes really deep into everything it says in the Bible about giants. It goes really deep into the patriarchless nations, which have Raphaim patriarchs. It goes into the battles of what I call the Nephilim wars or the Raphaim wars that happen after the flood. And there's many, including the ones in the Exodus and beyond.

And all the way through, I'm connecting that into end-time prophecy. And then the last half of the book is talking about end-time prophecy and being defraithes. defined by all of those imageries and things that I was discussing in the first part of the book about prehistory with giants and things like that. And the abyss, we'll probably talk a little bit about today. Yes.

Yeah. Gary, wait, when is the book, do you know when the book's coming out? Do you have a date? No, I don't because I still have to

go through and edit it myself and do some connecting of it. I would like to have it out early in the year, but I'm not convinced all hit at the publisher's deadlines so typically you know they're using they're out three months minimum in advance from receiving the manuscript to doing everything that they need to do to get it out so but i'm my own worst enemy on it i just kept adding more and more and more stuff and it does come out Gary we'd love to have you on talk about the new book and absolutely so

we can unwrap some of these rabbit holes that yeah yeah we're already teasing it hard here it's I know, let's talk about that, but it's not what we're here for today. I know. I was going to say, we tried to do an episode on the Nephilim Wars. It's too big. It's too big of a subject. Yeah, they're rumored to be pretty massive wars between these tribes. And I can't imagine what life was actually like back then.

But today we're talking about CERN. Thanks for coming back on the show again. And how do you begin the conversation with CERN when you talk about it? Where do you start? Well, that's a really good question in itself because it's a very large topic as well. I know I tend to make everything very large topics, but really when you dig in and get behind the onion and peel it back, there's a, there's a lot in there. And I know you've done a show on CERN. I'm not sure exactly what's been covered, but I'll just maybe sort of preface it with what I think are areas that

are all interconnected and related, but all sort of go into sort of different sort of directions in terms of their history and stuff like that. So, you know, obviously when people talk about CERN, it's like, what does the name mean? And so within CERN, you've got a certain imagery that goes with it. And you've got all of these allegories. And you've got things like, what is the name CERN? And you've got the imagery of Shiva and Atlas program and all of those things. You've got a power base that's in CERN as being a very powerful organization that's connected into the UN. And they have a specific dogma and agenda that they have that's quite public. You have a, emerging of technologies there, you know, all sorts of physics and science, but specifically what

intrigues me is the AI and the quantum computing that merges. You've got a history of quantum computing that most people don't know about, where most of the original scientists and quantum mechanics got most of their information from and what they build on and what they believe you need to know. There is the connection back to Babel and portals in the occult. You have the this notion of what might they be looking for when they're trying to break down particle girls or what else are they doing. And then you've got connections to the abyss, which is sort of in the mix within the imagery and within perhaps some of the science that they're doing. So you've got all of those sort of different areas that go into CERN. And I'm not sure where you'd like to start, but typically, you know, I kind of like to talk.

just a little bit more about its place in the world and sort of back my way into some of this stuff, unless there's some areas where you think that you want to start first, because I can go back and forth pretty easily. Yeah, let's go, Gary. Take us down the rabbit hole. Yeah. So, I mean, one of the things that people don't know about CERN is, is it's sort of renowned as the birthplace for the World Wide Web in 1990, and connected to Tim Burner Lee. And it's connection to that high-tech part of this sort of new age is something that people don't know that it has this history. So it's tied into the world that they've been creating. And it is continuing to work in that direction in terms of how they're going to dominate

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and other sort of cabals of secret societies. and things as you sort of pull that back into the secret societies aspect. But one of these things that really sort of tweak my interest early on is, is that they have UN observing status, which is most unusual. There is another group that's not a country that has that sort of status, and that's the Knights of St. John. And so it's not, and that's the only two that I'm aware of. There may be more, but it's the only two that I'm aware of.

So I have the right to speak at the General Assembly and during debates. They have the right to sign in on resolutions and vote on procedural matters, and they're right to sign as signatories on working papers. So this is not just one individual. This is an organization that's behind it, and there's a lot of funding that sort of goes behind it. And certain beliefs in their dogma is that science is a vehicle for social change, just as they were one of the big proponents of making the Internet more worldwide, not inventing it, because they, unless they were working with, the U.S. and the U.S. Army, then, and I don't have anything on a status to say that they were in on that. Didn't El Gordon at the Internet? Yeah. Well, there you go. That's true. He trumped that whole sort of science, so to speak. So they believe it's a social vehicle for social change. And the things

that they like to focus on in their sort of virtual signaling and changing the world is the refugee crisis, gender equality. They believe in stem cell science and technology and really promote that sort of stuff and also engineering and math. They're at the forefront of science in Europe, but I think they're probably at the forefront of science with their branches and their connections all around the world. CERN partners with companies to get its technology into the marketplace, and people don't know that. They're inventing and doing things and getting that new technology out through oligarchical companies all around the world. And they put licensed agreements and places on this technology.

So they're getting significant revenue to continue to fund this massive set of projects they're doing. And they do something that's called KT groups, which is groups of knowledge and technology for the development of these things. But KT is a typical secret society term that's used in the Masonic Society and it's short for Knights Templar. So again, you get these sort of eerie kids. connections, but if you understand that secret societies were born from the seven sacred sciences

and that the mystery schools and secret societies are all part of the same sort of organizational structure, they're creating this knowledge from the past. So they're trying to be like the days of Noah. So it starts to come a little bit together, but I thought it was good to understand a little bit of the grander sort of agenda that they have. And CERN uses something called a Hedron collector to search for a new and unknown cosmic particles. Specifically, they like to look at things like in dark matter, but there's photons and things like that. But it's this idea that they're looking for particles. And I noticed in the news lately that they've announced that they've found a few new particles out there, nothing that they're announcing that's significant.

but just as when people talk about, you know, the God particle and things like that, the Hoson particle that's also that they're apparently sort of looking for or working on, these ones are a little bit different. They're called Pentaquark, which are sort of single particles and tetrachorks, which are pairs and particles. Those aren't the ones that they're looking for, but they're sort of looking continually for these types of particles. And they're looking for elementary particles, I guess,

is what I'm saying. And they're using induced quantum energy to do that. So let's just sort of back up a little bit in terms of the technology that they're using. And I'm going to start in here because I think this is really going to start to make some of the other stuff that I'll talk about make a little bit more sense. So if you go back, you've got quantum computing, quantum history. And essentially, that's kind of done by, you know, began by a pioneer by the name of Wolfgang. of Polly. And he saw his search through the occult side of things. He was also proponent of Carl Young and sort of adopted a number of his philosophies, alchemy and Eastern religions in particular. And so he was the one that started beginning this whole process of trying to unravel what is quantum

math and that led into quantum physics and then quantum computing. And then with quantum physics, you have people like Niels Bohr who also consulted the Vedas. You have Werner Heisenberg who also was into the Vedas and the Upenshads. And they thought quantum physics was perfectly consistent with what was written in the Vedas. And that you've also got another fellow by the name of Schödinger. And he believed that quantum physics and the Upenshads were sort of united in that it reflected a unity that both reflected a unity in wave mechanics and particles in terms of what they were talking about. And the key point is that the pioneers believe that

you couldn't get your head around figuring out quantum mechanics unless you understood the Vedas. And they also believe as an extension that came out of this, and this has been really popularized in the last number of years, is that, you know, the universe is thought in this sort of understanding, is like a quantum computer, like the matrix is the common sort of ideology, which is a typical sort of occult ideology, and that there are multiple dimensions. And the up and shads particularly talk about all of these particular dimensions. And so you have this occult history that is married into what's going on at CERN with a lot of its occult imagery. So that's not a surprise, particularly when you look at maybe Shiva. You also have.

have AI that is being merged there and in a few other places around the world, and it's probably growing sort of as we go. But AI is a different sort of technology as well. And the problem with quantum computing is it's sort of single shot for the most part, unless the new technology has advanced. It AI allows it to search in many directions at the same time in many dimensions at the same time. So it's something that they need to sort of speed up the process. And the whole idea about adding AI into the mix is that AI represents a consciousness. It represents something that's going to be sentient sort of down the road. May not be today, might be today, but it certainly would be heading in that direction as being sentient down the road.

And so if you listen to people that are in the scientific and AI world, is they talk about demonic activity or talking to spiritual guides and all sorts of sort of mysterious things that sort of go on in the world of AI and high-end sort of computing. So if our audience isn't familiar, the Vedas are, you know, ancient Hindu, Sanskrit texts, right? And DeLuvian, according to their history. So, yeah, so my question then is,

if we're talking about consulting this, are we maybe to assume that this is some of the, maybe the mystery Babylon stuff, like this is ancient, like the idea of quantums and some of the stuff they're doing at CERN is actually that they're trying to go back and access sort of ancient, ancient tech or ancient knowledge that existed

before the flood and the golden age. That's exactly what they're doing. The days of Noah, both before and after the flood, with Babel being after the flood. I just wanted to clarify that for people because I know we haven't touched on. And that's the connection to Shiva, right? Yes.

So this. Yeah, Shiva is the destroyer god that is connected to other gods of the pantheon and the end of days. And so, and, you know, I was just noting that, you know, Elon Musky said a few years ago that with AI, they were essentially summoning demons. So they're summoning some sort of intellectual beings. And it's not unusual that in that end of scientific discovery that they're receiving knowledge from whatever you want to call them, from whatever dimension that they might be in that they believe that they're doing, that they're communicating with. And Deaemon's is kind of the ancient word for it. And that's the word that they're starting to use. It's been transliterated into demons today.

but the name of that comes up in some of those conversations is the name a metatron. And Metatron is also the sort of the first part of the word is what's used quite a bit these days in the metaverse. It's used in what Facebook is now using as their companies. Again, you can tell who they are and what they are by the imagery that they do. Metatron is a character in the book of 30, Inoc, Ante, And this is Enoch, son of King. This is Enoch, who's the creator of the seven sacred sciences, and he becomes like a god because of all of his knowledge and sort of akin to Thotha, he has raised to godhood in the Egyptian pantheon. And this is the name of the individual that

they say that they're talking to. And Enoch, when he's raised up to be like the son of God, as it's talked about in third Enoch, to angel status and even higher, they're saying that, Book of Enoch says that Enoch had his name changed to Metatron to reflect that. And so you've got, again, kind of this spooky kind of stuff that is just crazy and unbelievable that they're using with imagery and these names that come up out of history. So when we look at the imagery that comes out of CERN, Shiva is, we'll just touch on that one because we already talked about. Shiva is one of the gods of the subcontinent of India's pantheon. And it's a significant god, a god of war, God of destruction, a destroyer of worlds. And so when you have this type of individual that is being sort of symbolized in this scientific research,

you wonder what else is reflecting maybe Shiva that's in there. So you have, for example, the cosmic dance of Shiva that some of the employees are noted for that they do, did as part of a, I don't know, celebration or a reopening of CERN a few years ago. And that's the dance of God. And what it is, Shiva is depicted in Indian history as within a burning halo or an orb, which gods are typically depicted in an orb. and Shiva is not only the god of destruction, but in this dance, it signifies that Shiva destroys to recreate a new world. And the level of the technology that is being developed there is absolutely sort of extraordinary in terms of what it's trying to do.

And who knows, it may have access to weaponry and power that is really sort of unknown. Shiva has a direct connection as a destroyer God into an angel of the abyss. And that is Abadden and Apollyon in Revelation 9 that's going to be released just before the midpoint of the last seven years. And Abadden in Hebrew means destroyer. It's not a name of an angel. It's a title. A Polyon means destroyer in Greek.

Again, not a name, but a title for it. destroyer God. In the book of Enoch, the destroyer God would be understood as Azazel. And Azazel is the host of the rebellious ones of the abyss put in there for their crimes. He is a angel that taught the art of war and the art of making weaponry to the antediluvian world. He's the one that is the scapegoat that they, Book of Enoch, lays all the sins of the antediluvian world, even though there's other ones that participated. He's the leader. He's one of the satans. He isn't Satan as in the Satan, but he's a very important angel. And he's a war god that parades through the knowledge that

merges with the seven sacred sciences of Enoch, the heavenly knowledge of the angels that is illicit and not permitted, or the knowledge of the gods and polytheism that goes to all civilizations around the world and it merges to develop this technology that brings about the flood or the first apocalypse by water. And so it starts to bring in some more parallels in terms of the days of Noah that we talked about. Biblically, Azel doesn't really show up in the King James version, but the word scapegoat does. The second goat sacrificed on the day of atonement that's sent out into the wilderness, just as in a lot of polytheist legends, Azazel is hung in the wilderness. This is an unexplained sacrifice, and the word scapegoat goes back to the Hebrew word Azazel. And this is part of

the laws that are given to Israel to do as part of their Feast of the Lord that they go through every year. And so we have this Azazel God that is the leader of those angels, who is the destroyer God, likely a Baden and Apollyon, who's going to come out of the abyss just before the midpoint of the last seven years. Now, Azazel was a watcher, but he will be degraded for his rebellion. So as a watcher, he would have been an Ophanim, which is one of a four-faced angel like a cherubon, only one face difference, because one of its faces is a cherubim. You have a cherubim as a watcher. You have archangels as a watcher, and you have the seraphim, and he's thought to have been a seraphim watcher who has been degraded to goat god

status as the destroyer god, as in a satir. Sa'ir, as it goes back to Hebrew, which means hairy, shaggy, goat god, ear watcher, that's the Hebrew word for watcher that's used four times in Daniel four. And there's more than one of these degraded satire gods that Israel is told not to worship as devil gods and you take that back at satire and it says goat god and you also have the satires that are shown in end time prophecy in Isaiah 13 and Isaiah 34 one at the destruction of Babylon and one for the day of the Lord and so these beings are coming back these degraded goat gods and the degraded goat gods in Greek mythology were known as very permiscuous let's say types of of gods who were, I think, continuing to do things that as part of the rebellious angels,

they would have been degraded, not in the abyss because they didn't create the sexual crimes, but I think they disappear because after the flood, they begin to do some sexual crimes. And we'll go to the abyss, just like the balaim go to the abyss after the flood. So there are many goat gods that are listed around the world. It makes me think about, we've done some episodes on Nate, on Amalai. Hermon and the pan worship at Mount Hermon and as Gary's pulling this thread you have Azazel who led the watchers at Mount Herman and you have this Penaeus there you know Jesus shows up on the scene too and basically you know basically fires shots over the bow says this is this is

mine now this this mountain belongs to me the association there is fascinating and I think too the idea that connecting Shiva with Azazel and then realizing that like Anapalian realizing the prophetic, you know, connection of that. And then this is the emblem. This is the mascot, you know, per se for CERN. Yeah. And at Mount Hermon, not only was there the Pan White House domed, so to speak, temple, but you also had the gateway to Hades there.

Yeah. Right? Which would be a portal, which again is significant in occult history, that Jesus went to, basically. announced that, you know, I'm going to build my church and your rebellion is over. But Pan is only one of these goat god, right? So I think there's many of them. Bacchus is another one in Roman mythology. There are other ones like Baphomet, Bafomé, that the Templars worshipped. You have one called Innes in Greek mythology. Another one called Phonos, just as fauns show up in

fairy tales. Yeah, Gary, we just interviewed a brother and sister whose mother, their mom married a guy for like a year, and their stepdad was deeply involved in the occult. And he said he saw, the brother saw a bafflement in his closet. And his dad was, you know, a warlock, stepfather, and tied to these secret societies, they think. And I wonder if his father was specifically loyal to that goat god. Is that how, like, down to the nuts and bolts of some of these occult practices get, where they actually know exactly who they're communicating with? Well, within the occult societies, secret and other types of occult societies, it's populated by bloodlines. And the bloodlines that they keep their genealogies on

go back to a specific Nephilim or Raphaim and a specific. angel. So if I can use one as an example, and you could do a whole show on this one, is you have Vlad the Impaler, which is the character that Dracula is based on. And he's the typical Scythian, Tuatha Duda, Nan, Ruffaim after the flood. He has red hair, hazel eyes, pale skin, night operator, because he's allergic to the sun. He's educated in the mystery school of Solomon. And he takes his bloodlines back to the Scyth. and back through to a specific angel name Tamiel, whose name is listed a little bit differently in the book of Enoch, but that would be Cazadea in the book of Enoch. They are that specific.

Wow. And Prince Charles III takes his lineage, and you can Google this and get the articles where it's written up. And many years ago, he said he takes his genealogy in part back to Vlad the Impaler. Wow. Yeah. So it's important these things. So they would be worshipping a specific god. Their sioning may have them or grafting into bloodlines may have them worshipping a few more gods. And they may worship the overall pantheon,

but there's one from a bloodline perspective that they would honor even more. And so the coat of arms would reflect that. Like a Patreon god essentially, right? Like the whole. Yeah. Patreon god, absolutely. So there's another goat god in Greek history called Igea pan that's different than the other pan, and then you've got a Celtic god that's named Cernunos, which is a horn god as well of nature.

So these are all nature gods, and Cernunos is the same god that, because this goes back to the ancient Scythians migrating to England and carrying the same pantheon over there. They're just different vernacular names for the same kinds of gods, but there's one that's specifically that nails it. So just as you have these Indo-Aryans, and there's four different groups, and they're called many things, Tuatha Danut, the Dattano, the tribe of Anu, Aryans, they're called Raphaim. They're the same people. The Etruscans that were there before the Romans come to power. And when they set up Rome, they actually set up like a Pan Temple at the sibling prophecies they're going to inherit. But there's one other God that's in there that's really kind of interesting.

And that is the god named CERN. Really? Exactly as that. And it was a stag god as well, another horn god. So this goes back to those gods of the early post-Aluvian world. You wanted to get in on that? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

So CERN was named after this god, not nothing to do with the science. Yeah, it's not an acronym. Yeah, it's a convenient acronym. You have CERN and you have Shiba. You have a destroyer God and you have this horned god that predates the twins or the twin mythology of Rome, right? Yeah. What about where they build the facilities themselves?

Is there any significance? Well, there is. Apollo that you were talking about, which is connected to Apollyon in the Greek grouping of words is called Intruscan god Apaloo, which is the same god as Apaloo in Sumerian mythology. and or on Leal, as he can be described also, and also connected to Nurgal that's listed in the Bible as being one of the underworld and a war god. But specifically, as you get to the location and you start to work that back, you've got a location for CERN that's close to the Swiss border,

and it's in a town called Saint-Jean-Pouilliers. And it is a temple that's been dedicated to Apollyon. in its history. Wow. Wow. Yeah. And it's called in Roman, as opposed to French, the polyacom. And it drives from a Latin Apollyannu, which goes back to a great Apollion in its etymology. So you have this place in St. Genipoli, where you've got this temple of Apollion, and it's like within a couple of kilometers of the CERN plant. And of course, that would have had a port. portal location associated with as an ancient holy site. They would have had, you know, lay lines crossing through for power and they would have also had portals that would go to the underworld. And so Apollo is the Greek god of death and pestilence as and also a sun god and also a son of a god, which is kind of like an antichrist kind of sort of scenario that goes. So do I believe that the abyss is located right below there? Probably not, but it has importance to the location of the abyss

where Apollyon would be. So the abyss would be located in the earth, yes, as it's described, in the other world, Netherworld, and when all the different places, different names it has around the world. So it would be like Tartarus within Hades, right? The abyss within the underworld. So it's a prison that's located in Shaol, as it's described in Hebrew, but you'll have these portals that go into the underworld in the center of the underworld all over the world. They have different names in every different culture. So even at Gilgall Raphaim, for example,

you have like 100 different portals. And if people don't know what Gilgall Raphaim is, that means Wheel of the Gods, or I mean, Wheel of the Giants, and it's right at the foot of Mount Hermann. So no coincidence there. That's also known as a few other names, but it all goes back to sort of the same kind of meaning. So one of the things that they're trying to do at CERN, I think with quantum computing, is to get into a different dimension. So the underworld is occupies the same space, but in another dimension.

And I think that one of the main things, not all of, but one of the things that they're trying to do is use this technology because there's, they're celebrating the occult sciences. They're celebrating occult religion. They've earmarked it with Shiva, which as we've talked about, is Azizel Apollyon, Abadden. I think they're trying to get into that dimension where the other world is and into the abyss and release their gods that were imprisoned, the gods who created the Nephilim before the flood, the Raphaim after the flood, the parent gods and the offspring gods, and let them out before the end time. Because they want to bring about the end time, but on their own time frame and before, from a Christian perspective, which I am, the ordained time of God. And the Baleem, as I said, are where we're offspring

gods like Anliol and Anki like Zeus and Osiris as opposed to the parent gods, right, that were before the floods. So somehow they get killed or they're overthrown. I think they all go to the abyss. It's interesting. There's a passage in a book called Pistosophia. Sophia is the God of wisdom and the creator god, goddess of the 12 angels that they would say includes the God of the Bible. And it's the word that philosophy is based on, the love of wisdom, the love of Sophia, part of the seven sacred sciences and all of the imagery that sort of goes in it. Sophia is part of being intermixed with AI and things that they're creating after her name and naming projects about her. But in there in book four chapter 126, it talks about these 12 rulers that are in there from before the flood. And these are the 12 angels that she created.

And I won't go through all of them, but these are the type of creatures that are in there. And they're going to lead out the scorpion beings out of the abyss when they do come out, that have the ability to destroy the world. And these scorpion beings were created by Tiamat, the wife and consort of Apsu. And Tiamat was a dragon serpent, Leviathan type of goddess, and she also created all sorts of other beings as well. I won't go into those. But the first one that's listed has a crocodile's face and has tail in his mouth.

So you have that oribus imagery and a crocodile, like the Ogdo gods in Egypt. You have the second one that has a cat's face or can be translated as a lion's face. So you've got all of these liongades like Sechmach and Nirgal and gods like that. that. You have the third one, a dog-faced one named Arkarok, and then you have in the fourth one, a serpent-faced god. And you go all through these ones, you even have the Hydro ones at the end. These are the 12 rulers that were locked into the abyss, so they weren't killed. So I think the offspring gods went there as well. And these are the ones beings that they want to release into the world to complete the rebellion that they failed with in the first go-around before the flood.

It's like a jailbreak. Yeah. It makes a ton of sense. right, you have all this Apollo imagery in branding and Shiva and destroy of all this Apollyon stuff. And then you realize that like, you know, quantums is really dimensional-based science. It sounds like they almost are making like a modern-day ziggurat. Yeah. Well, and in the occult, ziggurats, towers, pyramids were similar kind of being. Some say they were the same. They may be slightly different shape.

But they were built for more than just what we're told that they're built for. Right. Right. They're not just tombs, and they probably were never tombs, but they were likely some sort of, as a lot of groups will speculate, some sort of power machine, energy machine. Some people think it had ability to go into different dimensions with the power and the locations that it would be located at. So if you roll forward to the days of Noah again, but after the flood, you have an individual that's named Nimrod, who is the first grandmaster of masonry, after the flood and writes the first constitution. And he receives the seven sacred sciences from Hermes, according to Freemasonry and Gnostics, and applies this ancient knowledge, builds Babel

city and Babel Tower, right? And he's in rebellion against God. And he's taken up the pantheon and religion that's before the flood. And he's building this tower. Now, and we get an understanding in that narrative that acting as one people to one language, anything. they decide to do, they can do. So they have this knowledge that is explained through Gnosticism and Masonics, at least what they believe, that Nimrod received this ancient knowledge. And Babel is understood in Hebrew as confusion of the languages. But we get the Babel story in many accounts around the world, from the Aztecs, the Kishamaya, to the Sumerian account of Edmar Akar and Erdog. And you also get an Armenian account. And you also get an Armenian account. And you also

get an interesting understanding through the Acadians, which Nimrod is the patriarch thereof after he stays in Sheenar or Sumer after the dispersion at Babel. And they spell Babel, B-A-B-A-Bel. You can see it spelled that way coming out of Babylonian translations, but also Babelu, I-L-U. I-L-U and E-L are the same meaning, just a different transliteration in a different language. So in Hebrew, EL is a god or an angel or the god. And it can also mean mighty and powerful. So another transliteration as an example would be AL, just as Bayal, would be Lord God, right? In terms of his understanding or master gods, some people translate it.

So Babel or Babel out of the Akkadian version, you have the understanding of L as a god. and then Bab as the word translated as Acadian as gateway or portal. So you've got in the mythology of Nimrod that he's saying, if God ever gets out of line again, he's going to climb the ziggurat, and he's going to find a way to kill the god of the universe, or if he threatens to bring about the flood or another flood, he's going to do the same thing.

This Tower of Babel, nobody I don't think believes it could reach actually into heaven, but if he was building a gateway of the gods, portals into other dimensions, he may have planned as Antichrist will do in the end time. And Daniel A, 10, versus 8 to 10, will storm heaven, probably at the time of the angels at the war in heaven at the midpoint of the last seven years,

and probably through the ability to go through these portals and into heaven. And I think that's what he was trying to do. Two things is one, if he had to, is to make war in heaven as an anti-crash-type figure, and two, to go into the underworld and get more support by the gods that he's now worshipping. We know that, you know, just on a human level, you have these crime families that set up fronts, right? They have the front. Oh, this is our front business, but behind the scenes, they're actually really working their crime. You know, we've had a A lot of people come on our show and say, even just the observatories in the world are all fronts for

something else. There's like portals and there's other things that they're technology they're keeping hidden. Is CERN just a front for what they're really, you know, what they're really trying to do that a majority of the people don't realize that there's probably a select number of people that actually understand what they're trying to do here? We've heard on a show there's portals in all places around the world. But what human beings seem to do is they have, we have to use electronics and technology to pull off what some of the ancients could do. Is this just like a giant cell phone that we're building? But the ancients could telepathically communicate,

but we have to build something with electronics to pull off what the ancients could do with stones and pyramids. Yeah. So the giants either had the technology both before and after the flood to do it, or they had different bodies before it got diluted through intermarrying with humans, wouldn't prevent them to do it sort of naturally, so you would have to create that technology. You could make an argument that both might be the case

or one might be the case. So I think that's the case. And what you're talking about, the initiatory societies of the mafia, secret society with godfather at the head, like a godfather angel, that sort of patriarchal sort of structure and understanding is they have fronts.

And that's the standard MO in occult societies. So Freemasonry would be the one that most people would understand the best at the lowest level on the Thelmic tree of organizational structures they call it. It's like a world tree that has roots that goes down into the underworld and connects into heaven. That's the imagery they like to project on that. So Freemasonry is this organization that has 33 degree Scottish adepts at the top and you have third degree York Wright. But underneath 32nd degree and lower and second degree and lower respectively, they're learning stuff, but they don't know the true secrets. And they're designed there to be a front.

So they show all of this great community work and effort so that they can work in secrecy. This is a standard operational tactic that is used. So one would expect anything connected to an occult society to do that because it just allows them the freedom to do what they want to do. And I think that's exactly what is going on there. And again, people may not be, maybe a bit surprised to see me connect the mafia with secret societies, but it's the same type in it. It is.

The Costa Nostra, right? They are a secret society of itself because you don't talk about it. You don't know, no one rolls and no one tells the secrets of the, and they have rituals and rights, right? I mean, they burn the saint in the hand. Very much is. Very much so. And again, within polytheism, you have.

have the micro-dualism as you have the macro-dualism, and in the micro-dualism, you have black magic and white magic. You have good witches and evil witches. You have good wizards and bad wizards. You have good nephalum and you have bad nephalum. This is, again, a standard in their sort of belief system. They're working the same type of knowledge, maybe with a different agenda is basically what they're doing. I have a question. You brought up a couple times, and we haven't touched on this, is the seven sacred sciences. What are those? and what exactly is that? They're the seven liberal arts that are taught in universities today.

And it was put into seven disciplines by Enoch, son of cane, according to the Gnostics. And so, I mean, people like astronomy would be one of them, right? You would have mathematics as another. You've got the first three that are going to form into philosophy. That brings the whole sort of thing, like they have grammar and rhetoric dialectics. And so anyways, there's seven of them. But it's how they're developed. and then that merging with the knowledge from the gods or the fallen angels that takes it to a level that we're just sort of catching up to today.

And so that was developed into the mystery schools through the religions. Religions were set up so that wouldn't be the Inocyan mystical religion was set up so that the knowledge wouldn't go to the mundane, so the Sethites. And that you would have to learn it through a degree and a mystery system. And then you would have the religion that is using this knowledge, but it's being developed, with something that they're going to call the mystery schools, the education where they educate only the elite, only the bloodlines, right? And you have that same thing that goes on to this day. And the secret societies come out of the mystery schools. So if you go to university campus today, if it's of any age, it's all built in Egyptian, Sumerian, Greek, and Roman architecture. It has their gods plastered

all over everything. They do everything by awarding degrees. And so you have this same type of of sort of baby or early societies for a lot of people that they're bringing into their mysticism within the various houses that are set up on campus. Those are secret societies because they're initiatory as well. And the seven sciences had an agenda that were established with it that is still being used today. So you'll have the agenda as being, first one is to lead people away from the God of the Bible. The second agenda is to not give God credit for anything. The third thing is to degrade God and insult God every step of the way in whatever you're doing. And then the fourth thing is to honor your own gods, which is still being done today. And so you have the birth of modern

science in 1662 with the charter by King Charles, the second, as I recall, as opposed to the third that's just been crowned. And with the Charter of the Royal Society, whom science pays homage today. And these were all Rosicrucians and Freemasons that were creating this new organization. And they called themselves the last of the sorcerers and the first of the scientists in that transition. And that was the beginning of modern science. And they've basically continued what they were doing beforehand in a way that we're going to see come to full fruition into the end time. So that's sort of the short story on the seven sacred sciences and how it connects in. It's fascinating though, it is exactly what academia is doing, right? They are at enmity with God. They're trying to

disprove God, leap away from the God of the Bible. Oh yeah. And literally distort the things that God has created and give glory unto another, like something else. And anything in science can be discussed except for God creating anything. Yeah. That is... It's almost like the Tower of Babel story. It's like Christians kind of grow up thinking that was a one-time incident. But it seems like that rebellion has been going on since the done time.

It's just been rebranded, repackaged. Yeah. And redistributed to the population under the term science. Yeah. Nothing new is under the sun, right? So it just continues to happen over and over and over again. What if CERN is in a portal? What if it's some sort of automatic writing, giant Ouija board type of technology where they're trying to get messages, right?

Information. Yeah, messages. Cell phone. It's just a, it's a weird cell phone. They're trying to get, you know, communicate and get what they need. I think that would be another part of what they're trying to do. It's not that they're not communicating today with their spirit guides, whether they're demons or fallen angels. But because not all the fallen angels are in the abyss and not all of the.

the demons are in the abyss, right? So there's ones that are still out, but they may be trying to find a way to communicate directly into the abyss. And what's interesting, there's a passage in Ezekiel 32 about the terrible ones that are talking to Pharaoh. And these terrible ones are Raphaim-descended kings like the Asher and all the different names that they're going to list in Ezekiel 32 of Elam would be another sort of Raphaine name and a patriarch of one of the Sumerian nations. And these are the terrible ones that did terrible things on earth and were slain and go into the sides of the abyss.

So these are demonic, the worst of the demons that are in there, but not all demons are in the abyss. So the Bible tells us there's ability for them to communicate, I think, in that, because they're talking with Pharaoh, who is another descendant sort of Raphaine king. It goes back to organized crime. Yeah. You know, metaphor that like when the crime box goes to prison, he still runs the, he still runs the organization. Yeah.

He just has someone, someone sort of by proxy does his stay in his stead outside, but he still is running it with, you know, for all intents and purposes. Yeah. So for me, it's, it's, they're going to get some information from them, but they've got other angels that can give them a lot of information, a lot of demons as well. but they may be trying to communicate with more things and I don't know what those things are. But there's another thing that people need to be aware of that what they're searching for. And we talked about it earlier on in the show. We talked about them searching for particles. And there's a specific one that they're searching for.

And this is called the Atman particle or the Atma particle. And it's talked about in, you haven't guessed it, the up and Shads in the Vedas. And it is a very, very interesting particle. A, it's invisible. So even though they're going subatomic, they can't detect this particle. It's that hard to find. And it is a particle that they believe goes to the core of establishing godhood. And in their belief, and just as Satan through the serpent was trying to provide a form of godhood in the physical world for Adam and Eve, just eat this fruit from the tree of good and evil. He was basically saying you can be like God. And in polytheist belief system, immortality is required. And the other thing

is unlimited access to knowledge and unlimited knowledge because of a God, you would be all-knowing, right? Just as the all-seeing eye is all-knowing. they need to provide that. So you're going to see this technology in part that is coming out of CERN that's going to merge into, because you've got AI, quantum computing, all sorts of other things that's going to merge into other parallel lanes of technology and into eventually into the beast system and the mark of the beast as a source for this knowledge and will be delivered according to the Davos people who report to the committee of 300. This will be delivered through the health care system because people will double.

demand that this technology that will be done all in a digital sort of basis can cure pestilence and give you immortality and that connection to this knowledge. So this Atma particle, it's rather interesting. It's invisible, but what it does do is it merges with particles that they can measure, or at least, and maybe other ones that they're still finding that they could actually find and measure. And they believe that this is a particle that has the main essence of man in it or what man can become. They believe that it is the knowledge of the universe that is accessed through this particle.

And this knowledge through quantum entanglement is instantaneously sent around the whole physical universe ongoing. and they're trying to find this particles to tap into. So that would be another thing that I think that they are trying to... Some kind of tree of life or... Yeah, the truth of good and evil meets the hive mind or something. Yeah, it definitely meets the hive mind, no doubt about that. And, you know, just as down a different sort of rabbit hole is that, you know, one of the things that the Israelites used against the Raphaim and the hybrid giants in the Exodus war,

is hornets. And in the occult, the hive mind that you're talking about, it's a trait that they believe that they inherited through their gene of ISIS, their bloodlines, that is a type of telepathy that allows them to communicate. They try and use that to harness their knowledge and strength to fulfill certain agendas, whatever those are that are on their mind to do, that they still believe they still have some of that today. And they have all of these. bees and sometimes they're sort of allegorized as this kind of fleur-de-le-le type of thing that they have in their emblems, right? But it's an allegorical reference to the bee and to the hive mind, and that the hornets were the enemies of the bees, and that they would just drive the

Raphim crazy into panic, that they couldn't think, that they couldn't communicate. And so it's interesting that the Bible has that as one of the main things on how God delivered up these giants to the Israelites because it just they had no defense against it. Yeah, this knowledge of the world is that Borgh hive mind, right? It's the same ideology where they're interconnecting and have this pooled knowledge of the universe and that they can use whatever, whether it's transhumanism and the Borg sort of analogy that they do there to give sort of, you know, ongoing life, except that they would have to be able to transition that spirit into another body if it got too old or...

If it's immortal... Couldn't clone any more bodies. Yeah. It's a weird immortality thing. Yeah, and it's only in the physical world. I mean, on our show, we've done it for a couple of years now. We've interviewed people who talk about the deep underground military bases, places underground, all the creatures we talk about on our show seem to come out from underground.

Do you believe a lot of these entities are in a physical location inside the earth right now, Or is someplace that maybe CERN could, you know, like, are they, or is it sort of like a more of a spiritual prison, something the dimensional? Or is there like an actual place, if you drill down deep enough for, you know, lack of better words to describe, you could get to it. To the abyss? You get to the abyss, yeah. Yeah, some people believe that. I don't think so. I think it's in another dimension because we know it's in the underworld and we know that, you know, in the Eucharic text, for example, the Raphaim and the Baleem gods, they would go through these.

portals into the underworld and they were taught rights so that when they died they didn't want to have their heads cut off because that probably means they would go directly to the abyss or not be able to find their way through the portals and into the protection of the underworld but is that why david cuts off of glyas head yeah exactly weird yeah worse death worth death they could have and So the cutting off the head would permanently send them. Yeah, so if you look at the word Raphaine, it's rooted in 7495, which is the Hebrew numbering for it, which means healing medicine, 7496 extends out of it. And that's for the spirits and the demon aspect in 7497 extends out of that. And that's the tribe of the giants.

Giants were thought to have a healing capability as part of their natural gifts and that if you didn't kill them suddenly like with the taking of the head, they would have the ability to repair themselves, either through their own physics or through sarcophagi. There's two different sort of theories on that. And so they were thought to be demigods who could live longer and they could repair themselves. and of course they were these really great warriors so that if you're going to take a kill a giant and make sure he's going to be dead, just as it's allegorized of like doing that with vampires or a stake through the heart or both, you know, vampires being son of Dracula, son of a dragon, son of a seraphim, son of a serpentine, Nephilim, or Raphaim, right?

As the sort of allegory goes and they also drink blood to try and extend their lives, the vampires do. So that's an allegory based on the Nufflem in the short form of it. And so that's why you would have to take his head. And so the Israelites were, and they had like with the 700 slingers of Benjamin, they could split a hair at a long distance. They were more accurate than arrows. They were one of the best weapons that they had. So they could stun and bring the giant down and then take his head just as David does that.

And that's not a coincidence. And it's a standard sort of understanding. And it's interesting when you match it up with what the Egyptians look at, what the Eucharitic text talk about, and what the Sumerian text talk about is the giants, the worst death that they could have is somebody take their head because they weren't prepared to pass through into the other world the way that they would want to go.

And so it's an interesting concept to understand. stand. And here's what might freak you out is that, and this is just my speculation. I put it in at the end of my book, the chapter I'm writing right now, is that Armageddon, you have all of these mighty ones that are there. The princes and the kings and the mighty ones is in the book of Joel talk about in some other chapters, the gibberim. The gibberim is the word that describes the Nephleim in Genesis 6.4. Jesus is going to slay everybody with a double-edged sword, including Antichrist and the false prophet. I'm wondering whether he's chopping them off at the neck.

Interesting. We were, I mean, we were releasing an episode today, actually, about the Wendigo in North America, and a lot of the Native American traditions say, you have to make sure they're dead. Yeah. You have to make sure that they've actually killed them fully because they can repair themselves as kind of what the guest was suggesting. And I thought that sounded crazy. But now that you say this now, I'm like, hey, I mean, at this point, most things don't sound.

Well, it sounds like Wolverine. It sounds like X-Men. Yeah. Like, it sounds like, hold on, like, in which we know a lot of that is just repurpose demigod stuff, obviously. And it's fascinating. Gary, I had a question. I want to go back to something that you talked about. I want to understand a little bit.

Some of the purpose of CERN here is to let out these beings, these fallen angels out of the abyss early. And if you're the darkness, and we know that the darkness and, you know, the factions of the darkness, they have a keen awareness of the end in what's prophesied. And so, I mean, I want your opinion on that. Because if they are trying to release these things before the appointed time, as we know, you can read in Revelation. And as John wrote and John saw in Revelation, what are they thinking they can accomplish by making this happen early? I think they're trying to discredit God, right? So that he's not all powerful. I don't believe the angels believe they can win. They deceive their offspring and the people that follow them that they can win. But what they're, you know, what they've always tried to do, I think, is to win a place separate from God, just as, you know, Satan wanted to be like God, but away from God. They want their own realm. And so if you look at what God is letting play out, it's the creation of the Adamites is the resolution to the angelic rebellion and that all the names that are going to be until the end time. And the one also expects there's a list in there that's part for.

the millennium as well, but all the names were written in the book of life before creation, right? So they're trying to stop some of mankind from having a chance to earn their immortality to become like angels. They were actually trying to destroy humans from even having a chance, but once the resurrection happened, that was basically over, and Jesus would have spoke to them and did in First Peter while he was in the grave, that basically saying, my speculation, that the your rebellion's over because I'm going to resurrect on the Sunday here and you're going to be sent to

the lake of fire when all of this sort of happens. And so what they're trying to do is create a scenario that might permit them not to go to the lake of fire and to have their own realm that if they could stop the Almighty from having things happen at the ordained time, two things would happen. One is, he's not Almighty. And the second thing is, is not all the names were allowed to be able to accept their destinies. And so what's holding them back, you can argue whether it's the Holy Spirit or Michael, as you can make a good argument for both, is the restrainer is holding it back until the ordained time.

And so it's going to play out until the restrainer is moved at the midpoint of the last seven years when Antichrist takes power because the restrainers not here to prevent the empire, the last empire from rising. It's been trying to prevent, not trying, but successfully prevent. anti-Christ from coming to power through the Beast Empire since the beginning. But it will permit it at a certain point. At a point of time, yeah. What do you think the UN role in this is?

Because you talked about two different societies or organizations, I think of societies for all intents and purposes, but organizations that don't really have a national answer. They don't have to answer to any sort of nationality or country, right? Yeah, what are the role they play in there? So, yeah, CERN is part of, of the technological aspect about bringing about the end time. The UN, which CERN is a member of, UN is designed to bring about the 10 kings of the end time, world government, right? That's their,

and they're trying, and they work with all these other agencies to try and create a central organization that transcends all national borders. So they'll take advantage of any natural catastrophe, any contrived catastrophe, to move that forward, just as they did with the last pestilence. But here's the thing, though, is that there's another piece of allegory that's in CERN, which is the Atlas experiment. So Atlas is the king of Atlantis, with nine other kings. And he's the offspring of Poseidon and Clydo, a female human being. So he's a demigod. And Atlantis was the place where it was the greatest society of the world. the greatest technology, the greatest development of knowledge, and it was trying through war

to take over the whole world, according to Plato and Cretaceous and Tamaas. And so they don't get it done, but this is part of the golden age. This is that new age that they want to bring back, when men walked amongst angels, right, amongst the God. They want to bring that back as that golden age, but they call the New Age of Atlantis, as Francis Bacon called it, right? Another Rosicrucian, no coincidence there, but that's all. whole different. And the inspirational founder of the Royal Society that we talked about earlier with his

ideas on the New Atlantis and his picture still hangs in the entrance to the head office of the Royal Society in London to this day. So I mean, all coincidence, right? But anyways, they're trying to bring about the New Atlantis, the 10 kings of the end time, just as you have 10 kings that are prophesied in Daniel, you know, as toes in Daniel 2, as seven horns in Daniel 7 and 8, 7, kings, horns and toes that are also mixed into the allegory of Revelation 13 and 17. And Atlas was a, I would call him as Nimrod is, a post-Diluvian antichrist archetype. Atlas in this allegory of Atlantis would be an antediluvian antichrist, just as we're told the spirit of the Antichrist has been with us, at least since the time of the New Testament.

So probably right from the beginning of Adamite creation. Dang, Steve. The way that history repeats itself via Atlantis, kind of the Atlantis that's coming again is interesting. And I think a lot of times

I think like how the enemy doesn't realize it's giving away, it's tipping its cap to what it's going to do because of what it's done in the past and just the layers there are fascinating. It's amazing how these things that are happening now, like you can run it, like we talked about the Solomon,

nothing's new under the sun. You can pull it all the way back to Eden. and all the way back to the golden age and they're still, they're still trying. It just looks a little different, but it's the same, it's the same strategy. It's nothing new under the sun. So just as Nimrod tried to raise his throne to heaven, Antichrist will do the same thing.

All antichrist type archetypes in the past declare themselves as gods and they would have, they would have the same sort of goal. It's why you can learn so much about understanding. understanding prehistory to what's going to happen in the end time plugging my book. That was, I couldn't help myself on that. There he is. So the spirit of Satan is that original rebellion. It's that, it's that massive ego that I, I want to be dominant.

I don't want anyone or anything telling me what to do. And sort of the fall of mankind might be the spread of that lie to all humanity. Because if you think about it, all these secret societies, all these ancient empires, they all want nobody in charge of them. They all want to be the key to their own destiny. They all want to live forever. They all want their own territory, their own empire. Is that sort of what Satan does when he tricks humanity? He sort of puts that, that disease in all of us that you don't want, you don't want to be loyal to the God of heaven.

You want to be your own. You want to be your own thing. Is that kind of what sin did to human? humanity and then all these empires, they still believe this original lie that they can win, they can take over, they can claim their own empire. Yeah, because they want to be little gods, right? They want to be a god on their own. They want to make their own rules, right? And they want to live away from God because, and that God won't try and try and destroy them. So that's, that's the lie that they bought into and that they can win this. And so you see that in science fiction.

I mean, there's that movie and there's a series out with Dr. strange and you have this evil dark lord of the universe and you have this one little bright spot which is earth that the occult religions and superheroes are trying to fight for to have their own realm that's what they want yeah so it's and you see that allegory whether or not it's the rebels in star wars it's over and over and over they just want to have their own realm away from the god of the bible and they deceive people that they can win yeah and what do you say to like some people like listen to our show and they want us to take a different approach sometimes they have more of the preterist understanding of things but if you if you listen to this conversation

I mean it's just building their army is just building and building and building and it's going to get to a point where it's going to be like Christ is going to have to return to reclaim all of this I mean what do you say to some of those people that thought think that some of these ancient stories were already fulfilled the prophecies were already fulfilled yeah and what do you I mean I'm sure you get that a lot but I do and you know I do engage And there's different kinds of preterists, right? They have different sort of levels of beliefs. And from a Christian perspective, how I approach prophecy doesn't always line up with all of these labels that they have on different kinds of eschatology.

The problem I have with those, and they say, so which one are you? And I'm going, I don't follow that. Look, if you've got a preconceived conclusion, everything that you're going to read is going to be biased by that preconceived conclusion. But then you're forced to, with preconceived conclusions, to ignore inconvenient passages. So when I get into, whether it's social media, particularly on different avenues of social media, where I'll run into somebody, they'll say, well, how do you explain this? So you do. And then they say, they don't go back and try and win that argument. They'll say, well, what about this? So you explain that. Then you go, they go, what about this? They do a chase the rabbit

argument because they can never sort of put down the argument that you just explained away and saying, because what they do is they don't include all of the passages. And that's the only way that they can make it work. So my approach is a little bit different. I have a 10-point plan. People are welcome to it if they want to email me through my website, the Genesis 6 conspiracy. But one of the unique things that I do is I try not to ignore any inconvenient passage because it has to fit. And then the other thing, what I do, which the other ones all do not, that I'm, aware of is is that I put all prophecy around what Jesus said not vice versa and when you do that the chronology lays itself out and you don't get contradictions.

We get some of that sometimes. We're a creatures podcast. We talk about the weird blurry figures out there and in order to understand where they come from. There's lots of shows out there that they don't want to, like you said, they don't want to bring all of that into the conversation every single part of the the story in to make sense of these creatures. They just want to talk about weird spooky stories and that's it. We talk a lot about the Bible. We talk about a lot about ancient history and you have to make sense of all these things. But it just sounds like this war, this rebellion is so much bigger. It is. It's so much granted. We need a savior. Yeah. We have one. Yeah, we have one. Yeah. Well,

and that's why you have the creation of the Adamites. It's not that God didn't foresee everything happening. He's alpha omega, but he lets everything play out through free choice. So he can He knows Satan is going to deceive or have the Nakhash, the Hash deceive Eve, and then both Adam and Eve are going to eat for the Tree of Evil. He knows what's going to happen with Kane. He knows what's going to play out before the flood. He knows giants are going to be after the flood again. He's let everything play out through free choice and enough time to fulfill the names in the book of life that everybody has a chance not to erase their names out. He's letting it play out. He's letting it play He knows how it's going to play out, and that he knows that he's going to bring this about through the Holy Covenant, and he's going to bring Jesus, the Word of God, into the world through the Holy Covenant and Israel, even though Israel's going to backslide, he knows all of this.

And the time frame is going to have to be played out through the curses of the covenant versus the blessings of the covenant, because they backslide so much. But he still is going to bring them back in at the end. but we know that the angels don't know everything because, as the book of Corinthians talks about, they wouldn't have crucified Jesus had they known about the resurrection. And so that's part of the whole plan. And then the resurrection permits humankind by choice with very little knowledge that the angels had all kinds of knowledge on, to be raised up to be like angels. And then we will judge those angels for the crimes against humanity.

but when I say the Adamites are the resolution to the angelic rebellion, is we have to look to what happens at the end time, is that you have not only Satan going to the abyss for a thousand years, but you also have the angels are going to go to the lake of fire, although the fallen angels, as Matthew 25 talks about you, they're going to go to the place prepared for angels and the Satan, that they're going to be there like the false prophet, that like Antichrist, like those who take the mark in the lake of fire, which is a different

place than Hades or the Abyss. And to have hell translated that's encapsulating three different terms, you have to actually take it back to Greek and Hebrew to figure out what the word hell is referring to when it's in most of the English translations. But the end time is the resolution when Jesus comes back to the angelic rebellion. And through that process, we're having the resurrections. and then you're going to have the millennium. And what's interesting about the millennium is that you're going to have a thousand-year reign of Christ, which is just like a rule that was going on in heaven with the angels, but they're going to let Satan out at the end of the thousand years,

and a lot of humankind are still going to rebel. I think that's a humility factor for humankind, that we're no better than the angels, but we will be raised up like angels through free choice, through very little knowledge and faith, and given immortality, whereas angels were given immortality right from the beginning. So the end time is the resolution to that angelic rebellion. Yeah. It's a great story. It's a wild story. It's the best story. Well, it's just so much, it's sad that so many people don't see it. They just can't. They don't want to see it. They've been neutered.

A lot. Yeah. Well, a lot of them are brainwashed, but on a lot of them just, you know, I'd rather die than believe that. I mean, and they'll probably get their. wish, but there's more people that are believing it today than ought to. And that's because of all of the brainwashing and preparation that's going on for them to accept the delusion for a special generation, the fig tree generation, where all of this comes together. It's one of the overarching signs in Jesus's oratory and chronology of the end time in Mark 24, I mean, Mark 13, Matthew 24, Luke 17 and 21. So the fig tree generation is this one generation and all the things that he said are going to come to pass. The earth and heavens are going to pass away, but his words aren't

going to pass away. It makes me wonder, all these secret societies, they eventually all come together because they're also fragmented, right? They work together. They have competing agendas at times, but they all have a specific agenda that they're working on. So they're working together. It's the bloodlines that are where the real rivalries are. And it's the bloodlines that will present several antichrist in the end time, just as Matthew 24 and Mark 13 and the epistles of John talk about antichrist in plural. And just as Gog in the Gog war, just before the midpoint of the last seven years after the abyss has been open,

is a giant name that comes out of polytheism. It does not come out of the table of nations. He's Gog of Magog. May Gog comes out of the table of nations with Japheth, but Gog doesn't. And Gog is, as they take that back to Greek and Hebrew, because it shows up in both Testaments, it's an end-time Antichrist figure, not the Antichrist, but another counterfeit Antichrist. So there's going to be several.

And Gog is the son of Ayapetus, a parent god in the Greek mythology, who also fathered other giants, a couple of them are Magog and Albion, which is, you know, famous gods out of British history as well. It's amazing that you have Gog that's in there. And that name doesn't show up anywhere, but he's Gog of Magog. And I think the Japhethites intermarried with the giants in the Scythian region after the flood. And I think they took the names of many of the giants from antediluvian history and as a sign of their slide into polytheism. Or Bible writers changed their name. name to reflect that. Love it.

Yeah, sorry, we kind of went on some rabbit holes there. I know we were talking about CERN, and I'm sure you want to probably wrap up the show talking about CERN itself. Yep, yep. Leave you with, if I'd just like to get in a little bit about this Atma particle, because it's going to be so important with the technologies. Yeah. And this is coming from the, uh, Bag of Igita, if I got that right.

I always trip over that one. Here's what it says, and I won't give all the verse numbers on it, but it's the main essence of man is the Atman, and I talked about that earlier. And it is, when you are in sort of connection to the Atma particle, you're in divine harmony. And what that means in their writings is the Divine Atman is the divine spirit, the supreme spirit in your body. It's like the counterfeit wisdom. It's the Sophia, the goddess of wisdom in your body, right? The divine Atman can reside in the body, but it does not intermix with the body.

So just as the Atma particle is part of mingling with a subatomical particle that communicates knowledge to the whole universe, we're going to connect into that. So through this beast technology, through this hive technology, and it's going to be residing in the body, but not intermixing with the body. And it's also known as the source of everything. So knowledge and information is the source of everything in their belief system. And it is something that you have to not only allow in yourself, but you have to give it worship. And what a lot of people try and do today is they like to meditate, become in communication with that particle for however short period of time. So meditate, use of yoga through meditation and the yoga.

yoga and the sort of the purity of those old rituals was also designed to do that. And it's used in that type of ritual is also used in the Buddha type of yoga to what they say to to attain the divine consciousness. That's like an incarnation to receive a divine consciousness and and also to receive the godhead. So the avatar concept out of the Eastern religion is like what happens with Antichrist, I think to a certain degree where he receives the power of the dragon or Satan. And Vishnu did an incarnation into Buddha. So Antichrist is called like a new Buddha. And Shiva had also many incarnations as well, probably a dozen incarnations.

And that's the avatar with the avatar. And then the Bible, we know that that's possible because Satan enters into Judas to give him extra power and courage to betray Jesus. That's what they're doing with the incarnations. It's part of that divine not only knowledge, but the power of that spirit of the mother goddess that they're going to be trying to provide for you. Here's what you're going to really like, I think, to finish it off as part of that godhood concept. So it's the highest stage of yoga and it's used to traverse the final stage of evolution. And so they want to have a world government and a world religion so that they can evolve into gods and vibrate to the next level. man i never really thought about it that way gary because i mean it sounds like if if cern is looking for that

god particle that thing that we don't have access to that kind of limits human beings as we are but if we can get to this god particle then we can sort of give the original deception to people on this technological scale like everyone can have the deception of the garden of eden there's this kind of hidden tree of knowledge in that they're looking for, right? So it's something they can distribute. If they find this God particle and they can figure out how to put it in everybody, they can permanently alter God's creations, convert them into something that's not in the image of God.

But some people just think that's going to be something as easy as getting a shot. And it's interesting that CERN is connected to the internet, because the internet feels like it's sort of a crude version of what we're talking about. like a very Model T version of the knowledge that they want to give everyone, the knowledge of God. It's sort of this multi-Google brain database that's all these systems connected. I think you kind of mentioned that. Yeah. I mean, it's definitely next level because all of the parallel technologies are going to have to merge to an implant system that Davos is talking about.

that will be connected to all of this technology and connected to all of the knowledge and all of the systems and that sort of hive connection. So what exactly it is, I think it's still developing because we haven't seen all of those lanes merge. I mean, you're going to see cryptocurrency merge into it, but it's all going to be delivered through one access point. I like it. I mean, it's great, Gary, because you need all this history. And you need this knowledge of all these secret societies and the Nephilim and the dynasties of old to make sense of kind of what they're trying to do in the future and what they're doing through this technology. And the front of a particle collider when it's probably something much more sinister.

So I love your brain and your deep dive and your ability to like remember all these names and places. I mean, I wish I had some of that ability because, I mean, I was always just kind of space. out in a history class and now I'm kicking myself because most of our show is that. So I appreciate you, Gary, with the deep knowledge and ability to remember these names and just rattle them off is impressive. Well, and before I came back to Jesus and to God and before I became

a prophecy buff, I was a mythology and a history buff and I read everything I could get my hands on when I was young. So when I started to see those connections and one of the reasons why I put so much of that into the first book is I could see in those other cultures around the world. They're talking about the same thing just through that polytheist lens. Yeah. Yeah, it's all there. It's just how you interpret it. Yeah. I'm also impressed there's one weird thought that doesn't need any explanation, but just the amount of power that we need to run something like the CERN Collider and then realizing that they were doing this things in the

golden age with a whole different level of technology. Yeah, it's mind-blowing to even think about, like, the way we try to replicate ancient technology today and all of the hoops we have to jump through and all of these immense amount of power to run these things was essentially something they knew very, very well. And we're told it was a bunch of knuckle-draggers that were learning how to start fires and caves, right? I mean, yeah, the propaganda that we get in the hidden history that still, I mean, I believe that a lot of these polytheist organizations and religions have more of the ancient knowledge than they're wanting to reveal. And they're trying to manipulate humankind. I mean, they're the spurious offspring of the fallen angels. And

they're trying to destroy humankind. It's been, it, it's been hidden from us. It is. Do you think that we'll see some of these entities before the hive mind is launched or it's going to be after the fact. I do believe. Yes. So I think that we're going to see fallen angels become whether or not they're revealing themselves as fallen angels, probably more likely a different sort of technological levels of aliens to explain it away. But at some point in time, it's going to be so obvious. But if they do their job right, they'll bring the God of the universe down to their level, right? So when you have war in heaven, it might just be, we'll see that. And it's going to play out. in our heavens as opposed to the spiritual heaven. I think we'll only see maybe the tail end of that because it seems to me that, you know, Michael has to remove and his armies have to remove them from storming into heaven and some of the story hosts will come down to the earth. So certainly by the midpoint of the last seven years, with the opening of the abyss and then the war in heaven, we're going to see these beings. And I think that's why we have things like, you know, dragons and satires that are

dancing in Isaiah 13 and show up in Isaiah 34 as well and other creatures. my last question do you think that there's things in nature that sort of mimic prophecy like you were talking about the wasps and the bees and the way they interact you think god designed them in a way to kind of give us clues to yes i do i do i think a lot of the knowledge is out there in front of us we just don't make those sort of connections right you know in in sort of the predator world they would be sort of like the dark forces right and all of the so they'd be and and unclean animals are the dark forces and all the clean ones and all the clean ones are the light forces, and they have different behaviors. And in the insect world, you have the same thing. And so every predator has its own predator. Yeah, I kept bees for a while, so that's what I was asking. Yeah. So, yeah, so bees would be the good guys.

You devil and bees, Nate. I did. But what I think what they do, what they like about the bees is they like the sacred geometry within the hives. They like the queen aspect of it. It's the divine female. Yeah, that sounds very much. I think they've drafted it into their belief system as opposed to bees being evil. Because, I mean, the Bible talks about the land of milk and honey.

And honey is a good thing. And that comes from the bees, right? So I think they just found that that was a good sort of allegory for their bloodlines and some of the attributes they have. Yeah, everything's like hijacked and mispurposed every. And counterfeited. Yeah. That was fascinating, by the way. I just appreciate that. I appreciate the hive mind.

And maybe that's what the technology of CERN is trying to do, is find some sort of, you know, technology beyond our scope to connect us all and corrupt us all. I never thought about it that way. So I appreciate that. But tell our listeners where they can find you, interact with you, and get your book. Yes. So the best way to get a hold of me is through my website at the Genesis 6 Conspiracy.com. that's Genesis 6 with the number six conspiracy.com.

And on that website, you can click on contact the author. And so if you have a question or I mentioned a few documents tonight, or if you want to ask whether I got a document on something because I got a lot of documents, just ask for it by title and I'll send it to you. Or if you want to ask a question, ask me a question, it might take me two or three weeks to get back to you, but I will get back to you. And on the website, I have a generous excerpt of all 98 chapters.

You can get a good feel for the book, and I'll have the second book that'll be going on the same website as well. And if you want to link over to Barnes &oble.com to buy the book there or to Amazon.com or Amazon.com or Amazon.ca, you can link through my website there or to the Kindle version. And I have a page for shipping if you want to sign copy that has the U.S., Canada, and overseas. So lots of ways. The other way to get hold of me is through Timeline or through Messenger on Facebook. That's the only social media that I've been doing of late.

And again, I will get back to you. It may take me a while. but I will get back to you. We know that. We know that. We were grateful for you coming on the show and being a friend of the show and giving us some of your time. You're excited about the new book? I know we talked about it.

I mentioned it at one point towards the end of this episode and also at the beginning. Do you have a new book coming out? It's going to be marginally shorter than the first, but a second volume. And we're very excited to dive into that when that does come out. Yeah. Thank you for spending the time doing the research and coming to talk to us. and our listeners is just about the things of this world are not as they appear or not as they are made to appear or told.

And I think the farther we get down, down this journey, Nate, or on this journey, Nate, that we realize that there is, there's a lot going on that they don't want us to know about. And that they're going to tell us as a, it's something else. It's just a giant shell game. Well, there are worker bees and there are drones. So don't be a drone. Dropping all this hidden bee knowledge that you have.

Appreciate it. Yeah, we want to be on the first on the list when you release the book to do an interview. Terrific. Okay. Thanks, Gary. We'll hit you up for that. Thank you, Gary.