Blurry Creatures - EP: 139 The Empire Of The Gods with Timothy Alberino
Episode Date: November 23, 2022We welcome back author and film-maker Tim Alberino to talk us through the pre-flood world AKA “The Empire of the gods.” What exactly did the earth look like when the gods walked among men? Is it p...ossible that greek mythology and other world religions all talk about a cataclysm that rocked these empires from their foundations? Tim helps us understand that the ancient world was nothing like we’re being told and is unlike any fantasy novel ever written. There was a time when these empire flourished and eventually went to war. Are these the civilizations where a lot of the blurry creatures come from? Tune in now. support the show! blurrycreatures.com/members Guest: timothyalberino.com Intro song: Kavinsky "Pulsar" contact: blurrycreaturespodcast@gmail.com blurrycreatures.com Socials instagram.com/blurrycreatures facebook.com/blurrycreatures twitter.com/blurrycreatures Music Kyle Monroe: tinytaperoom.com Aaron Green: https://www.instagram.com/aaronkgreen/ Mastering: ironwingstudios.com Outro Song: TimeCop1983: timecop1983.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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These Nephilimic kingdoms going to war with each other, they're incited.
to war. God incites them to war with each other and the watchers are bound and forced to watch
it. So they got to watch their offspring just absolutely annihilate each other. I mean, this is, it's so
much bigger in scope than anything I think anybody has ever written, ever. Any fantasy novel,
it supersedes any fantasy novel ever written by any human being. Ever, lamps that hold some of the
stones together at Tijuana, those are in Egypt, those are in Japan, those are all over the friggin'
earth, because it's a ubiquitous knowledge, it's a universal civilization in the
anti-deluvian world.
How can that be?
Because it's the empire of the gods, that's why.
The history of our earth is so different from what we can imagine.
It's a Smithsonian, that if they found out about a large skeleton somewhere,
was to go get it.
I'm going to assume at least one person is right, because if one person's right to bust the paradigm,
it all goes back to the fallen chair.
And the problem with the modern day church, they have a very truncated view of the supernatural.
This backdrop that's just pregnant with all kinds of meaning associated with this Mount Herman event.
And this guy defects from the kingdom.
That's a big deal.
Tim's like, I'm coming to Nashville.
You should do BlurieCon, right?
Is that how it happened?
That's basically how to.
Sometimes you've got to push the unassuming kids into the pool and the deep end.
Just got to give them a little shove, you know?
Yeah.
Well, you got to give your audience what they want.
I think they want Blurriecon.
We got it.
People are Jones in to put their Bigfoot suits on and come to a conference.
Don't temp, Nate.
You know what, Tim?
This probably comes up once a week.
Nate's default to me is always like, oh, just got to get you in a Bigfoot suit.
It's like, well, you're the guy for it.
You would scare someone.
We live in Tennessee, man.
That's a good way to end up shot.
Maybe.
You're probably the size of a good female Sasquatch Blot.
I don't know if I don't even take that name.
Size and shape of a female Sasquatchewatch.
So, dude, now, now, now.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
Hey, Patty had some good glutes, all right?
I mean, maybe I'll take that.
That's going on a T-shirt.
Patty's got great glutes.
So we're doing Blurie Con.
Tim is correct.
Let's redirect this.
ship here. Tim, your headline in the show. We don't know how highbrow the content will be,
but it's not going to be boring, that's for sure. Well, it'll be highbrow from our guest, Nate.
Just as usual. This is how the show goes. This is your first time? It's welcome.
Now, we're excited. It's going to be, you know, it's here in Franklin, Tennessee. We've got
the illustrious Timothy Albarino and Dr. Laura Sanger, Doug Van Dorn, Derek Olson, the
Megalithic Marvels, and our friend Tony Merkel of the Confessionals podcast. Our esteemed guests
and our speakers at BlurieCon, it's going to be fun. Nate's going to be, you know,
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all with an 80s theme and all with not taking, you and I not taking ourselves too seriously.
Basically, what you come to love about the show, the podcast, we're going to do it live.
And we're going to have a lot of you there. You can ask questions, hang out with us and laugh a little bit.
And hopefully, you know, enjoy yourself. But Tim, thanks for coming to Nashville.
And thanks for coming on our podcast a ton. And just you've been really cool to the show and you've been really generous at your time.
So thank you.
I'm looking forward to hanging out with you guys.
again in Nashville and in the Nashville area.
And we had a great time at my conference.
So it makes sense to kind of relive that experience at the BlurieCon.
That's right.
We have some tricks up our sleeve.
We're going to get to those later, but you just released a video, Empire of the Gods.
We thought this would be great.
Get back on.
Do another deep dive into the brain and the mind of Tim Albarino.
So many people are always just like, wait, they're always sending us messages.
When's the next Tim episode dropping?
It's true.
I guess I'm unprepared because we've been so busy.
I'm so unprepared.
Well, I did my homework.
I released a video, as you said, I released a video on YouTube the other day.
It's the latest installment in my Birthright Lecture series.
There's nine now.
By the way, they are in English and in Spanish.
So if you go over to my YouTube channel and you get the Spanish video because that was the last one released,
don't worry, there's an English one.
Lots of people just, they come on, they find the Spanish one, and they ask me,
I don't do it in English. I do. I always post the English and the Spanish one. So just there's a
link. I always pin a comment under the video. My comment's always the first comment,
linking over to the English version or if you speak Spanish, linking over to the Spanish version
if you're looking at the English video. So I don't say this often enough, but if you have Spanish
speaking friends or family, send them a link to the Spanish version of my lectures. The Latino
community, there's not a whole lot of people putting out content in this vein.
for that community. And so it's definitely not easy for me to do this in Spanish. It takes
double the amount of time to produce these things. My English is overly complicated. To translate that
into Spanish is it's extremely difficult. It's about the hardest thing that I do.
Really? Everything I do editing and writing and researching and traveling, the hardest thing is
to convert my, the stuff I write, the way that I write naturally, convert that into
Spanish, so I put a lot of work into it. So it's a little plug for the Spanish version of my
lecture series. But this latest installment, it's called Empire of the Gods. And I discussed
something in here that I think most people aren't aware of. And it's a little bit controversial,
but we can get into that. But I wanted to make people aware of this hypothesis. It's called the
Younger Dryass Impact Hypothesis. The Younger Dryass refers to an abrupt return to ice
conditions after a long period of warming that occurred between 11,600 and 12,000, 800 or 12,900 years ago.
So we're talking about somewhere between 9,600 and 10,800 BC.
This has always been a mystery to scientists why suddenly the Earth returned to ice age conditions for about
a thousand years after it was experiencing a prolonged period of warming.
nobody had an answer. I mean, the answers were, the answers were never really sufficient to adequately
deal with the data and with the phenomenon of the drastic climate change that occurred during that
period of time, drastic, drastic climate change. Again, the world was thrust back into ice age
conditions for a thousand years. So recently, somewhat recently, in the last 10 years, probably now,
there's this hypothesis that's been formulated by a group of researchers, highly qualified researchers from
different scientific fields, mostly geologists, and they've formulated this hypothesis,
the Younger Drys Impact Hypothesis. They believe that they have evidence. They presented evidence
for a comet impact that happened approximately 12,000 years ago. To be more specific,
it appears to have been a massive, an enormous comet that broke up into pieces, either in orbit,
around the Earth or in outer space, I should say, and then or broke up in the atmosphere and bombarded
the Earth, these fragments of this comet bombarded the Earth and a global cataclysm eventuated,
resulted from this comet impact event. So this is their hypothesis. And the reason why I wanted
to inform everybody, it made people aware of this. Of course, lots of people know about this
hypothesis, as I said, it's been around probably for a decade at least. Graham Hancock and
Randall Carlson did a really famous, a viral interview with Joe Rogan. They did his podcast a few
times and they discussed this. And it's been discussed in publications for a while now. And
people need to understand before I getting further into this, that this hypothesis, the guys who
formulated this hypothesis, the Comet Research Group, I mean, they were instantly under fire. As soon as they
came out with their, the results of their, with their data from their research concerning this
common impact, they were absolutely ripped to shreds by the, by the scientific community.
This is not a hypothesis that is widely embraced by the conventional scientific community,
the cabalts. It's, it's rejected by many of them, but they're being forced to slowly
swallow it at this point because the evidence is mounted.
And that's why I felt the urgency to do a video on it and make people aware of it, because there's some very interesting correlations here.
Why do you think the science community doesn't embrace it?
Because it's catastrophism.
And the scientific community, conventional geologists hate catastrophism.
They hate it.
They all subscribe to Lyle's principles of geology and his motto that the current, I'm trying to remember exactly what it is, basically that,
that rejects, let's just put it this way, the mainstream conventional geology rejects the notion
of catastrophism, of cataclysmic change on the Earth's surface. They accept, you know, 65 million years ago
an asteroid struck the earth and killed the dinosaurs. They accept that because that's way, way,
way, way, way, way, way back in the, in the distant past. But if you are trying to make the case
that something similar to that event happened just 12,000 years ago, they freak out.
because it's catastrophism.
And the Christian community should be very familiar with catastrophism,
because if you're a Christian, you believe in catastrophism,
namely the Great Flood, the Flood of Noah.
And so right out of the gates here,
I want people to understand that when I'm talking about
a comet impact 12,000 years ago,
thereabouts, sometime around 10,000 BC,
understand right out of the gates that I'm correlating this event
with the flood of Noah.
In other words, what I'm saying is that this was the Great Flood.
This is what catalyzed the Great Flood.
Now I'm going to get into some details about why I think that in a few minutes.
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So you think the flood happened around 10,000 BC?
My answer at this point is tentatively, yes, I do.
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My view on the Great Flood, on the catastrophe that the Bible records in Genesis, has been evolving in terms of when it happened and what catalyzed that event.
Obviously, I believe that the activity of the watchers catalyze the event in terms of they set in motion the judgment that resulted in the flood.
But I'm talking about what natural phenomena, or perhaps a natural phenomena, catalyzed the flood.
What actually happened?
What caused the cataclysm?
And that's been a, I've been very, very interested in that question for many years now.
And your audience is well aware.
My primary field of study and my primary interest, or one of my primary interests, I should say, is the
anti-deluvian world.
I'm interested in knowing what the anti-deluvian world really looked like, what was really going on, and the nature of the cataclysm that brought it to utter ruin, that destroyed the watchers and their offspring, what I call the Empire of Gods, which we can get into a little bit later.
So in this journey of exploration and research, I think a key piece of this equation here, trying to figure out the antediluvian world, the when and how is the megaliths.
And I'm not talking about Stonehenge or some of these, what I would consider minor megaliths.
I'm talking about the really big ones, the foundations of Balbeck, the walls of Saxe-Wamam.
I'm talking about some of the megaliths in China that most people don't even know exist.
Absolutely mind-blowingly big megaliths.
And I've always believed that the larger megaliths, not the smaller ones, the larger
megaliths were constructed in the pre-flood world, in the eclod.
anti-deluvian world, before the flood, in other words. And I don't know exactly who constructed
them. It's easy to say, well, they were built by giants, but it's easy to say that until you have
to walk through some of the doorways and some of the hallways of these megalith, some of the corridors,
because they're clearly not built for people of gigantic stature. In some cases, they may have been,
like Sox-Iwaman, the doorways and Saqsao-Waman and the steps, I think we've talked about this
I'm sure the steps that how far apart they're separated for somebody with a very long stride.
That's very convincing to me that it very well could have been built by giants.
But other places like Ojantai Tombo and some of these other megalithic constructions were clearly not built for large people.
And when I say large people, they were built for people at my stature.
So they were large for the ancient world in terms of the post-aluvian, the post-flood world.
They were built for people my height.
I mean, if we're assuming that the doorways, you know, were maybe a foot taller than something like we would do today in our houses, right?
Eight foot doors, right?
Yeah.
Right.
Just because it's a nephalum doesn't mean it's a giant, right?
Couldn't have.
Yes, that's true.
But also, also, and we're getting away from, I'm pulling us away from the younger dryest here, but we're going to get back to it because I want people to understand this.
But it's important to remember who we're dealing with in terms of the quality of the human populace at the time.
The caliber of human beings that existed on planet Earth in the antediluvian world, in the
antediluvian age, were these people were far and away much more impressive than we are.
They were, as I've talked about, ad nauseum.
They were physically more robust than us.
They were intellectually much brighter people than we are.
Their cerebral capacity was greater than ours.
And they lived longer than we did.
So in every way, in every metric, they were better quality people than we are.
Now, morally speaking, the line of came was reprehensible.
But in those other attributes, physically and intellectually, they were far superior to us.
So having said that, let's not count them out for some of these monuments, right?
I mean, they certainly would have been capable, I think, of building some of these things without any giants involved.
Although, clearly, there were giants in the mix in the antediluvian world and not just giants,
living gods, the watchers.
So we'll just put a bookmark there for now.
We'll return to this in a little bit.
But returning to the younger dry, the younger driest impact hypothesis.
So everybody now understands that when I say a common impact 11 to 13,000 years ago,
sometime between 9,600 and 10,800 BC, that I believe that is when the catathing
of the flood recorded in the Bible and in all over the world in ancient sources, that's when it
actually happened. Now, why do I say that? Because the megaliths, many of the ones that I am most
interested in, the most impressive ones, seem to have been built sometime around 10,000 BC. The walls at
Saxiwaman, the megaliths in Kusko in general. The sphinx, in Egypt,
And all kinds of megaliths around the world are pointing to 10,000 BC.
How?
What's that?
How?
Because of their celestial alignments.
That's really the only way to date these monuments.
And the sphinx, if you read Hancock's work, you'll discover that the sphinx most likely was oriented towards the constellation Leo during the vernal equinox in the year 10,000 BC, sometime in that time frame, 10,000.
We've been sent several pictures of those things all over the, several of them that looked like they were, that wasn't the only one.
They built some of those perhaps.
And there was one, there was one in Alaska.
Plus, it has weathering, right?
The idea that there's the whole thing with the Sphinx on having rain weathering, significant enough that it had to be existing.
Yeah.
Shock did a lot of work on that.
I think he demonstrated conclusively that the Sphinx has thousands of years of weathering.
And it's water.
It's weathering from water.
And so it was weathered rapidly during a time when the climate was vastly different.
It might have been submerged in water.
But there's this orientation of the sphinx, which, by the way, I don't think, and a lot of people have postulated this, a lot of different researchers.
And I tend to agree with them.
I don't believe that the head on the sphinx is the original head.
I think that it's smaller.
It's disproportional.
And if you look at...
Don't they say it was a serpent head?
No, if you look at the statues that the Egyptians made, these incredible statues all over Egypt,
they're very well proportioned. The Egyptians knew how to make proportional statues.
And the head on the sphinx is obviously small. It's not proportional. I think that it was recarved.
I think one of the pharaohs had it recarved into his own likeness. But originally, I think it was a lion.
And it makes sense if it's a lion and it's pointing to the constellation Leo on the vernal equinox 10,000 BC or thereabouts,
that's a time marker because you're talking about the procession of the equinox and all of that,
which is time.
So you find that same phenomenon in other megaliths,
that they seem to have been aligned to the solstices and the equinoxes and the equinoxes and certain constellations at certain points in time.
So it's like taking, it's like taking, trying to think of the way to explain this,
it's moving the, because of the precession of the equinoxes, the,
the wobble of the earth, the sky, the stars, the constellations change position. And it's a very
slow process. It takes about 26,000 years to complete what's called the great year. One wobble,
one of the one wobble of the earth on its axis. So, you know, like the earth wobbles like a top.
But it's true, but it does so exceedingly slowly. The ancients were able to calculate this,
which is in and of itself absolutely amazing that they could, that they figured this out.
And they align so many of their monuments are aligned based on procession.
And I think they're timestamps.
So you can time stamp a monument in some cases, perhaps in all cases,
if it's truly a megalithic antediluvian megalithic monument,
I think you can timestamp it.
And everything that I have seen so far from the most impressive megaliths that I'm interested in,
are, again, are pointing to 10,000 BC or thereabouts in the neighborhood of 10,000 BC.
And again, as I said in the offset, I believe that these monuments were built in a pre-flood context.
They were built during the golden age, Zeptepe, the first time when the gods walked among men.
And that would be before the cataclysm that annihilated the empire of the gods.
And so how long do you think that empire lasted?
Over a thousand years, probably.
So you have to understand my journey here was in the beginning, I assume, I assume,
that the flood of Noah took place, occurred sometime around 3,500 BC, maybe 4,000 BC,
maybe 3,000, somewhere between 3 and 4,000 BC or 3 and 5,000 BC.
That's a conventional Christian view.
And I was kept running into problems with this because of the megaliths and because of some
of these ancient mythologies regarding this event that they all reference, this earth-shattering
cataclysm.
And I was getting this nagging feeling like the flood must have happened.
further back, deeper into the past, and the Neolithic age, the Stone Age. And so I was up that
persuasion after, you know, probably about just a few years ago, I started to become persuaded that
the flood occurred perhaps around 10,000 BC, you know, in alignment with what I was seeing
with the megaliths. And then I happened upon the Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis. And it sort of
just locked everything in place for me. So people need to understand where I'm coming from.
It really just locked all the pieces in place. And it makes a lot of sense to me from my perspective,
from what I've seen, from when I've studied, and certainly when you plug in the myths and legends
and the biblical narrative and the extra biblical narrative in the book of it, it all seems to be
pointing to the same period of time. So I mentioned that the Younger Dryness Impact hypothesis
postulates that there is a comet impact, again, more specifically, fragments of a massive comet
broke up in the atmosphere and just bombarded the earth. Now, it's important to understand where
the scientists think that the comet impacts occur, the fragments of this comet. In 10,000 BC,
thereabouts, we know that North America was covered by what was called the North American ice
calf. Most of North America, where I'm sitting right now, in North America, was covered by
one to two miles of ice, one to two miles of ice. The largest part of this ice sheet
portion of this ice cap was called the Laurentide Ice Sheet. And the Laurentide Ice Sheet covered most of
North America, all of Canada, a large part of North America, I should say, and all of Canada. And it was
one to two miles thick. And this is where these geologists believe that the impact occurred. So not only do we
have to contemplate a comet impact, multiple impacts from a comet, perhaps thousands. Now we have to
envision the impact happening on two miles high ice sheet. And a comet impact or an asteroid impact
is about the most catastrophic thing that can happen on the surface of the earth. It is
devastating beyond description. When the impact happens, the heat generated is equivalent to the
surface of the sun. So an enormous amount of heat. Each of these common fragment impacts would have
been many times more powerful than an atomic bomb. So imagine these impacts occurring such,
and they're moving at velocity 30 miles per second through the atmosphere. It's like birdshot from a
shotgun on the ice sheets and just massive explosion. So what is going to happen to that ice?
It's going to be vaporized and it's going to be liquefied instantaneously. And you're going to have
unimaginable amounts of water, millions of cubic miles of water, suddenly rushing,
a freshwater rushing into the oceans.
When this ice sheet is covering North America and Canada, are the places like the Middle East,
South America, are these more, are these like tropical zones still?
During that period of time, the earth was, the climate of the earth was very different.
It didn't look like it did today.
The earth was warmer and wetter.
And so that's why you have, you had tropical conditions in places that,
are now, not tropical, places that are colder now. The world is actually colder than it was
then. And so you had almost like a paradise between the ice caps, the northern and southern
hemispheric ice caps. And this is when you had the megafauna, where there was a profusion
of megafawn all over the world. I mean, here and where all of us are sitting now in North America,
there were saber tooth tigers. I mean, there were camels. There were giant slots. Mammoths. Yeah.
mammoths, giant beavers, all kinds of megafaunal animals. And those animals went extinct
because of this event, as did most of the life on planet Earth. So right out of the gates,
the impact would have caused massive flooding, global flooding, catastrophic flooding. It would have
caused tsunamis because of the quaking of the earth that would have happened, would have generated
tsunamis, but also the ice sheets falling into the ocean. Massive ice sheets just
huge, like mountainous ice sheets falling to the ocean would generate tsunamis.
And so you had the sea levels arising.
Tsunamis are sweeping across the land.
If you have a city built on an island like Atlantis, the island is just going to be
absolutely devastated, devastated, probably just swept away in a tsunami.
You have, in addition to tsunamis and earthquakes and, of course, the immense heat,
equivalent to the surface of the sun, near the impacts, you would have had,
the ejecta from the impact, which is basically superheated shrapnel, flying off of the impact,
and just flying all over the place, miles and miles away, landing in the forest and setting them
ablaze. And not just in North America, all over the world, you had wildfires. Wildfires
that consumed at least 10% of the planet's vegetation. And you would have also had extreme
volcanism that would have been catalyzed by the impacts. So you'd have volcanoes going off all over
the earth. This superheated shrapnel falling out of the sky, you would have had the, what's called
an impact winter, which is very much like a nuclear winter, an impact winter. It would result from
all of the dust being thrown up in the atmosphere during the initial impacts of the comet fragments,
but then also combined with the extensive biomass burning, all that smoke going up into the
atmosphere. And so what you have is a blanketing effect where the sun is darkened in biblical terms.
That would be the darkening of the sun. But the, but you would have the entire earth would be
covered in darkness for a period of time. Months or years. Tim, is this as it's flooding? So the fire is
preceding the flood waters? All of this is happening simultaneously. Okay. And now the impact winters
and the flood is a gradual thing that continues to happen over a period of time. And this is why the
world is thrust into ice age conditions suddenly again overnight everything changes overnight just
like the story of atlantis says right everything changes that it was destroyed in a day and a night just
gone so what i'm trying to do is paint the picture of a of a cataclysm the likes of which we can hardly
even imagine a world ending cataclysm that would result in a whole lot more than just a great
flood. It would result in a situation that's actually a lot more terrifying because you're not just
talking about water being released from the deep or coming down in torrents of rain. By the way,
the rain would be black. You would get acid rain and you would get, the rain would literally be
black. And what's intriguing about this is you have mythologies from all over the world,
including in North America. The Indians talked about a time when the rain was black.
When a mountainous wave swept across the land and swept everybody away and you have these
kind of stores all over the earth. Black rain comes up a lot in the mythologies. They were remembering
these details about this cataclysm. You would not get black rain just from a flood. Black rain results
from the atmosphere being full of soot. And it becomes, you get acid rain. And that soot,
some of it condenses and falls to the earth as black rain. We saw this like Mount St. Helens.
I think would be the one example I could think of those more modern times, right? Where you have this.
And you had the same thing.
You had these black.
Exactly.
Spirit Lake.
Then it ended up being this black flood.
And then as the ash was released, you know,
there's millions of metric tons of ash.
You have, it come back as rain.
As ash mixing with precipitation makes this black rain.
Do you think that some of these dynasties say the empires, right?
They're in certain locations because we have remnants of their,
basically just the bases of their buildings,
that some of these gods like throwing baseballs at the,
earth hitting some of these empires right down the middle like sodom and gamora kind of there's
yeah well you know i was i was talking to uh dave hodge's last night and and um we were speculating
about the possibility of could it have been not a common impact but but rather detonation of some
kind of a weapon which is an intriguing thought experiment i mean because then it really makes the
judgment of god a little bit more uh visceral real right a day like literally like a missile
And I say this because we talk a lot about the Grand Canyon, specifically there was these giants or whoever they were, they were building something inside the Grand Canyon.
And that looks like you talk about, you know, catastrophic event.
I mean, you have a giant crater there.
It looks like something just there was like a dynasty there, it seems like that's a lot of people hypothesize on our show because they find so much remains and caves and things.
It sounds like sometimes maybe God's picking off certain places.
That's why I said that.
Yes, because, okay, now we're going to get into the empire of the gods, because before the cataclysm, there was a world war.
Sorry, Luke.
For the cataclysm.
So to summarize what I just said so that people can understand why I'm thinking the way I am about this, I believe the great flood, as it's described in the book of Genesis, but then correlating with all the other flood myths around the earth, they don't just talk about floods, they talk about all kinds of stuff, the black rain.
the earthquake, the volcanism, all this kind of stuff. Some of them, like the Hopi Indians,
talk about the great star that crashed and ended their world, which of course would be a comet
or an asteroid or something. So all of these, the cataclysm mythos from around the world,
I believe that they all correspond to an event that happened somewhere in the neighborhood of
10,000 BC, and that that event, this great cataclysm is what was the judgment of God that
brought the empire of the gods, the watchers and their Nephilim offspring to a sudden end.
They were suddenly annihilated. And that was the Noahic flood, the flood of Noah. It wasn't just
a flood. It was a global cataclysm that I think increasingly it appears to have been initiated,
catalyzed by multiple impacts of a comet on the North American ice cap that led to all the
things that we just described. Now, what's really interesting is that when you look at some of these
myths, let's be specific. Let's focus in for a moment on Atlantis. Most everybody's familiar with
the legend of Atlantis, which comes primarily from the work of Plato, his Critias Dialogue.
That's where we get most of what we know about Atlantis is from Plato. In the Critias Dialogue,
Plato recounts a conversation between the Greek, the famous Greek statesman Solon of Athes,
and an old Egyptian priest of the goddess Nate, Athena, in the city of Scytes in Egypt.
And this old Egyptian priest begins to recount the story of Atlantis to Solon.
And we all know the story, which is that Atlantis was a great city and then suddenly it was destroyed overnight.
But what most people aren't aware of is that the details of that story, as recorded by Plato, but as told by the priest of Naith to Solon, the details of that story,
The details of that story are almost a one-to-one correspondence to the book of Enoch.
That to me is extremely fascinating.
So according to Plato, the story begins, the priest's recounting of the story of Atlantis,
begins with the gods apportioning the earth amongst themselves.
They're divvying up the earth amongst themselves.
You have the gods, and these are the Olympian gods.
They're going to take dominion of the earth, and so they're divvying it up amongst themselves.
Now, mind you, the earth is full of human inhabitants.
So the gods are taking over here in this scenario.
They're going to divvy up the earth, and then they're going to establish their own kingdoms.
And after they divvy up the earth, we can extrapolate that all the gods did this, because it bears out in Greek mythology.
Poseidon and the other gods, the next thing they did, once they divvied up the earth,
they chose wives from among men, the daughters that they chose to wed certain women and human
women. They went for the Italians first, right? Possibly, yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no. Stay away from
those Italian women. So, so Poseidon for his, so Poseidon for his allotment received Atlantis,
the island of Atlantis, and he chose to wed a woman named Clayto, who's the
daughter of a man named Evanor. So here's a god receiving his allotment among the gods,
and he chooses to wed this woman who he's enamored of named Plato, a human woman.
What does he do? He copulates with Plato. She gives birth to five sets, she gets birth to five sets of twins,
sons. So 10, 10 hybrid sons. Now, Plato doesn't say this, but you can find some other ancient
manuscripts which referenced Atlantis and describe the kings of Atlantis, the offspring of Poseidon,
as giants. So the sons of Poseidon become the kings of Atlantis. So Atlantis is Poseidon's
piece of the empire. This is his piece of the empire. So it's his kingdom. And he makes his hybrid
sons the kings of his kingdom. And his hybrid sons begin to rule over Atlantis. And Atlantis was not,
And this is the story from Plato.
I'm not making this up.
Atlantis was not a peace-loving utopia.
Rather, it was an aggressive expansionist empire, expansionist kingdom.
And it was conquering.
It conquered all the islands around it, the primary island of Atlantis.
It conquered all the islands around it.
Seven in total were told by Plato.
And it held sway over three continents.
So it was expanding.
It was aggressive.
And in fact, Plato says that Atlanta,
took their captives as slaves. So this was a, this was like a Roman Empire type kingdom. This was not a
friendly, peace-loving, a bunch of, you know, pot-smoking hippies. This is, these are, this is a warrior
culture. And according to the story that Plato tells, Atlantis was just steamrolling everybody
in its path, except for one kingdom that was able to withstand it and stood up to it. And that was
the kingdom of Athens, who Plato says was founded by Athena, the god Athena. So you have the
city-state of Athens, the kingdom of Athens, is now locked in a war with Atlantis. And this is,
a lot of people don't realize that this, when you talk about the legend of Atlantis, a part of this
legend is this war that's taking place between the kingdom of Athens and the kingdom of
Atlantis. They're locked in this bloody protracted conflict. And then all of the sudden,
a cataclysm befalls the earth. And Atlantis is swept away. Atlantis and Athens. And Athens and
Athens are swept away in the waters of a flood, of a great flood.
But the cataclysm began with earthquakes and lightning and, you know.
Like a tsunami.
Right.
So very interesting.
This is a parallel to the book of Enoch.
And what I want to say before I forget is that not only does the priest of Nath tell Solon,
the story of Atlantis, he tells Solon when this occurred.
He said 9,000 years before their present age.
So 9,000 years before the time that Solon was in Egypt having this discussion with the priest of Nate.
That's when Atlantis was destroyed according to the reckoning, according to the Egyptians.
Now, we know that Solon was in Egypt in 600 BC.
So according to the Egyptians, Atlantis was destroyed 9,600 BC.
see right in the ballpark of the younger dries impact hypothesis, this comet event, this this
common impact event that wreaked such havoc on the planet. Well, if you think about it,
Atlantis is just this giant bullseye and God just throws a snowball right at that thing. I mean,
it's circular rings, right? It's just begging to be peg. Well, it's, you know, it says that Atlantis
was destroyed in a day and a night. So it was probably, it was probably ultimately completely bowled over by
tsunami, I would imagine. I think so. But before the tsunami hit, there would be all other,
all kinds of things happening, earthquakes and the, you know, who knows what else, all the things
that eventuate from a comet impact in North America on the ice sheets. So now, here we have
this neighborhood of 10,000 BC popping up again in the story of Atlantis. Atlantis is a
template for the story that we're all familiar with from the book of Enoch. That's exactly what the
watchers did. Remember, the watchers didn't just come to the earth to have a good time and throw
women over their shoulders like just some brutes coming. And they did not come to earth to rape women.
That was not what they came for. They came to earth to usurp the birthright of Adam, to take dominion
of the earth. And we've talked about this in the past. They could not do it themselves. They were not
themselves authorized to do this because the birthright of Adam was given to him and his
offspring forever. So the only way that they could legally usurp that birthright was by producing,
procreating their own offspring who were human enough to claim it. And I would add,
huge enough to dominate mankind. So you think they knew that? I don't know. I don't, I suspect that
maybe they did, but there's no way to know. And maybe they made sure genetically speaking. They
made sure that their offspring would be a certain size so that they could easily subdue the other
kings of the earth. And of course, the watchers, you know, behind them. Now, why would the watchers
do that? Because remember, we talked about that there's an implicit order in the universe. It's
called the kingdom of heaven. And the kingdom of heaven does not just stand idly by and let the devil
and his angels or these insurrectionists watchers just do whatever they want and get away with it.
No, they had to play the game in such a way that they were making a legal transaction with the
rightful rulers of the earth. And that was the offspring of Adam. What was the transaction?
We talked about this before. The transaction was, we will teach you the knowledge that you're
striving to learn. Remember, they were striving to learn that I believe the off-sbrose
the sons of Kane, but that's neither here nor there.
The offspring of Adam were striving to learn something.
There was some kind of knowledge that they were trying to figure out.
The watchers showed up knowing that this was the case and said,
we'll teach you that, we will show you that, we'll give you that technology, whatever it was.
In exchange for your daughter's hands in marriage,
watchers were not looking to rape these women.
They were looking to wed them.
They wanted wives.
They chose wives, the children.
You said before, they were hunks.
They were like a bunch of hunky dudes.
They would have showed up and the ladies were about it.
These are members of the elder race.
They would have looked like very handsome, you know,
probably men in their 30s,
but much more comely features, let's say, than any human being.
And so these were not reptilian grotesque creatures.
These were gods walking among men.
And so this was a Faustian bargain.
Because what happened,
and the men thought maybe they were getting the better deal,
here because they're just giving their, and remember, back in the ancient days, and we're kind of
retreading some ground that we talk about before, but I think it's important to relay some of
this foundation. So remember that back in the ancient world, it wasn't like today, there was no
feminism back then. Women didn't go around choosing who they wanted to marry. The fathers gave
their daughters away. The fathers gave their daughters hands in marriage. And it was often to seal a
transaction, right? So this is a common, and of course, this is common in the ancient world as
not just in the antediluvian world. So the fathers gave their daughter's hands in marriage.
I'm sure these daughters were more than delighted to marry the watchers.
They gave their hands in marriage in exchange for knowledge.
It was a Faustian bargain because what the men could not have known is that giants would proceed from the wounds of their daughters.
Do you think Satan might have known?
I have a theory about what Satan was doing in all of this because this is not the devil and his angels.
This is the watchers.
This is a different group.
Well, maybe he could be like sort of like, hey, you should go down there and take them lady.
Exactly. I think he was the tempter. I think he was, I think he had a hand in this and doing what he always does, tempting.
But he kept his own hands clean because the watchers were judged. And I think he knew that this was going, that what the watchers were going to do was going to bring swift retribution from the kingdom of heaven. However, that retribution did not come until men began to cry out to God.
Well, you got to think about it. You know, we talked about it a lot on our show.
show that you, you've kind of got my mind thinking that angels aren't much different than us,
so to speak, right? So we talked about this a lot. They had the gear, they had the anatomy,
they had the desires, they're just smarter, probably better looking, and they got better
technology. Exactly. But they came down here and they're very similar to us, same desire,
same idea, but they're leaving, you know, their realm into coming into ours. You could see how
they would like want what we have very easily right right they would want to they would
not appropriate families for one thing and not even think that they're doing anything wrong like
maybe they're convinced like why can't i have this well they suspected that they might get in
trouble because remember they made a they made a how does the book of you not say that um
they swore an oath of mutual imprecations because they knew they knew that what they're about to do
that heaven was going to take notice, that the king of heaven was going to take notice and have some
feelings about what they were doing. But they did it in a way that was legal. They made a legal
transaction with the governors of planet earth, with the human race, and specifically these men.
I think, again, I think they were in the line of Kane, but, but, you know, that's my own opinion.
But they made this transaction and this transaction gave them legal cover. The empire of the gods
was not immediately destroyed.
I think it lasted over a thousand years.
It was destroyed ultimately because, remember it says in the book of Vinak,
and I believe it also says in Genesis,
that men began to cry out to the Lord or something to that effect.
In other words, it began to petition heaven at some point
for redress of the watchers' crimes.
I guess one of my thought is like when these,
when human beings are crying out,
because you see these empires all over the world,
do you think that God could be doing like sort of similar
Sodom and Gomor events,
like these empires are springing up and God's like, take that one out, boom, cataclysm there,
individuals, and then they moved to another location.
This was a very specific thing that happened in time. Outside of the crucifixion and resurrection
of Christ, this was the most momentous event that had ever happened on planet Earth, what the
watchers did. They usurped dominion from Adam. How did they do it? They did it through the agency
of their hybrid sons who were human enough to inherit that birthright, the birthright of
Adam, which is dominion of the earth. That's why they procreated, progenerated hybrid sons,
because the only way that they could do this legally, have some legal cover for what they were doing,
was to create offspring that had a legal claim to these thrones. Okay, now, returning to the story
of Atlantis, remember, what did the gods do in the story of Atlantis?
They divvied up the earth amongst themselves, and then they married human women to produce their own hybrid sons who became the kings of their empire.
And so the watchers themselves did not have the authority.
They were not authorized to directly govern the affairs of men, to govern the earth.
But they could govern the earth by proxy through their hybrid sons.
In other words, they would be the powers behind the thrones.
The thrones would be occupied by their hybrid sons.
And those hybrid sons, the giant offspring of the watchers were the kings of the empire of the gods.
And so you can imagine there were 200 watchers, according to the book of Enoch, the 200 watchers.
If they divided the earth, not just the Middle East, the earth amongst themselves,
then you can imagine that they spread out all over the world, they portioned it among themselves,
and each one of these watchers built his own kingdom to be ruled by his own dynasty,
his own dynastic line through his hybrid offspring.
So what do you have?
You have an empire, a global empire that is being governed by extraterrestrial interlopers,
the watchers.
These are extraterrestrial beings.
They have extraterrestrial advanced technology.
knowledge and they are now governing the earth through the agency of their hybrid sons who are
acting as proxies for them now according to the story of atlantis the the gods not only do they not
only do they divide the earth amongst themselves and and each one chooses a wife with whom he's
going to produce his dynasty is his family line to govern the earth his kingdom they also according to
to Plato is they have temples constructed for themselves and they institute sacrifices to their own
vener for their own veneration. And so, and I believe this is exactly what the watchers did. I think the
watchers, they wanted to be worshipped. They wanted to be able to govern the earth. They couldn't do it
legally themselves. They had to do it through their hybrid sons. So the sons, the offspring of the
watchers were the kings in the various realms of this empire and the watchers were the living gods
walking among men.
They had the temples built to them, sacrifices offered to them.
I mean, imagine this.
This, as I said earlier, the Egyptians have a name for this.
They call it Zepp Tepe, the first time.
And what distinguishes the first time from all the other times?
It's the time when the gods dwelt among men and imparted civilization and scientific knowledge to them.
I mean, again, this is all just going back to the book of Enoch.
So the watchers, we know that they made this transaction with the sons of men,
and they gave them the knowledge that they taught them the knowledge that they were striving to learn,
which the book of Enoch talks about, you know, the making of weapons and metallurgy and sorcery
and all this other kind of stuff.
But I think it amounted to practical technological knowledge.
So mankind, the technological development of these,
these already extremely impressive human beings that were closer to the genetic blueprint of
Adam than we are today and who were already far superior to us in every way. Now they suddenly
get this injection of advanced scientific knowledge, right? So now suddenly they not only are
superior to us physically and intellectually, but now they have information, extraterrestrial
information, advanced knowledge. So that begs the question, what kind of a civilization then
was produced from this? But it's even more interesting because they had a level of information.
They had a level of knowledge that was part of this bargain with the watchers. But the watchers,
I think the Book of Inak insinuates that the watchers save the best of their knowledge,
the most important, the most valuable knowledge for their wives and their sons. Why? Because they
wanted to ensure that the dominance of their sons on earth, the dominion of their sons on earth,
because I think there was a huge population of humans alive. And these were not stupid human beings.
These were very formidable human beings. And so the watchers wanted to make sure that they
maintain dominance, that their sons maintain dominance. And that would be why their sons were
giants to maintain the order of their empires and to make sure that they were never in peril of
being overthrown by the human race. And so you can imagine.
now this scenario that's beginning to unfold. Let's, for the sake of argument, let's push this
back to 10,000 BC and beyond, that this is occurring that the earth, the antediluvian world,
looks like the Lord of the Rings. You have these giant hybrid demigods that, who knows how many
kingdoms, 200 kingdoms around the world that are governed by these giant demigods who are
tyrants, really, they're tyrants. And you have mankind in possession of knowledge that was given to them,
are doing all kinds of evil things. The Bible says that all flesh was corrupted. They were doing all
kinds of wicked things, dastardly things with the information that the watchers gave them. And then you have,
you have to ask the question, what kind of technology did the watchers themselves show up with that's
operating on the earth at this time? And what kind of technology did they give to their sons?
What kind of things could have been produced through the knowledge of the watchers? Let's say that
the watchers showed up in, you know, a handful of advanced aerospace.
vehicles. But as we know, and I think we know this now today, that these advanced aerospace vehicles
are dependent on exotic materials to do the things that they do. In other words, like, for example,
Element 115, the exotic material used in the antimatter reactor. Well, they don't have access to
more of that. They can't make more of it because that's off-world. And I think once the watchers
left their original estate, that was it. I think they were sealed in there, basically. Once
they descended to the earth, I don't think the armies of the kingdom were going to let them
leave at that point. They made their decision. They're going to go down to the earth and they're
going to do what they're going to do. And mankind is either going to receive them or reject them.
And if mankind would have rejected the watchers, if the offspring of Adam would have said, no,
we are loyal to the king of heaven. I believe that the armies of the kingdom would have showed up
and rather than doing it many years later, would have imprisoned the watchers immediately.
You see, this is a very fine line that the watchers were walking here. This was a very
delicate negotiation going on here. The kingdom of heaven, the armies of the kingdom don't just stand
idly by. They defend man's dominion on earth unless we willingly abdicate our authority, unless we
authorize things to happen. But we're the governors of the earth. Now, God reserves the right.
It's his prerogative to dethrone or enthrone anybody that he wants. He's the king. The son of God is the king.
of the kingdom of heaven. He is the king. He can do whatever he wants whenever he wants,
but it's a kingdom of order and justice and law. And the watchers knew that. So they're operating
according to, they're walking this very tenuous line that is, they're trying to stay within the
boundaries of what might be legal in terms of their transactions with the human race. Go ahead.
I'm going on and on here. Go ahead. No, no, no. I love it. I think I'm thinking about this father-son
relationship here. And I think a lot of Christians don't, they don't really like to get into the weeds
about the father's son relationship. But if every single watcher had this father's son relationship
with their children, and then ultimately we've talked about in the end, and we went on about how Satan's
going to have his hybrid son and the dragon and he's going to do this thing. But if these watchers come
from heaven and they're watching, you know, the son of God and God and this kingdom, I mean,
they're lusting after sort of what the, and they're like, oh, we can go down there and
do this too. Very good point. We can go down there and we can recreate what we're having what's in
heaven here, down here on earth. I think that's an excellent point. Except we sit in the in the seat
on the throne, right? That's the idea. We need to be king. Yes. Exactly. Right. Exactly.
But then Jesus, you know, then we talked about how, that's why Jesus had to become human so he could
give the empire back to his father, empire of earth. That's right. And I would say, not just give it back
to his father, so that he could reclaim it for the rightful rulers of the earth, the human species,
the offspring of Adam. But, you know, backing up to the watchers, the motive of the watchers,
I think you're right. That's definitely part of their motivation. Now, let's not forget that also
part of their motivation is lust. They lusted after human women. They lusted after the daughters
of men. So they're also wanting these women really bad. That's a major part. And we talked about that
before and I did a video on it in my birthright series, a lecture series. They're being driven by lust.
They're coveting man's dominion. They're coveting the earth and they're lusting after his daughters.
I mean, this is all plenty of motivation for them to do what they did. And they succeeded for a while.
They created this empire. And I want people, I don't know if I'm communicating conveying this the way that it is
in my head. But I'm telling you, the way I see this in my head is the most epic story you can imagine.
I mean, the earth, what the, what the anti-deluvian world, what have looked like.
It's a fantasy better than anything that we could ever contrive.
Well, that's what Greek mythology.
That's what they get it from.
That's exactly.
That's what they're described.
Exactly.
That's right.
This event, the fall of the watchers and what unfolds in the book of Enoch, is the root
and origin, Zeptepe, the first time, the root and origin of mythology and religion on planet Earth.
Yeah.
That was seated in the earth after the flood.
all of the major religions and cults and so forth, not cults, let's be specific to religions,
the major religions were sprung from this event. The gods, all of these post-deluvian gods
were emanations of the gods that actually walked among men in the anti-deluvian world,
in the golden age, when the gods dwelt among men, copulated with their daughters,
produced their own hybrid offspring, and governed the earth through their hybrid offspring.
Zep Teppy the first time, the golden age. And so this is the scenario that's unfolding on the
earth before the cataclysm. Now, something else happens. It's not just that all of this is going on
and then suddenly the cataclysm happens. Something else happens. Before I get to that something else,
remember that the giant sons of the watchers were beginning to devour mankind. Because
mankind had to, basically, human beings had to feed the watchers. They had to,
them. In the book of Enoch says it in such an elegant way. It says that the, that the giants were
consuming all the acquisitions of the land. In other words, all of the produce, all of the farming,
everything that humans were doing to sustain themselves, they now had to do doubly to sustain
the giants as well. So this paints a very clear picture of a dominance hierarchy. The giants are
on top. They're not just wandering around Fifi, Fou, Fum, with clubs over their shoulders. These
guys are on the top of the dominance hierarchy. They're governing the kingdoms and their fathers,
the watchers are literally in flesh and blood receiving veneration in their temples. And I think that
there's probably, and this is just conjecture on my part, but I think there was probably a decree
across the land that the quota of human beings of, let's say human, you know, juveniles or
something had to be to be consumed, to be devoured by the giants.
So just to get a mental picture here, you have 200 watchers coming down. Each of them sits on the throne. Their sons are like the kings of their individual empire. Yeah, that's right. And they can't leave. They can't go back to heaven because they permanently left. Yes, they left their first estate.
So it's like they're stuck on the field of dreams. They can't go back.
They can't go back. But they're actually a purebred. Their sons are the Nephilim. Their sons are the hybrids. Their sons are the Nephilim. They are the Nephilim. They are the
gods, think of it this way, they are the gods, their sons are the demigods. It's like Hercules,
right? Yeah. Yeah, they're the demigods. They're the heroes, yeah. That's right. The heroes of old.
And then each generation is a little bit less. Right. And, you know, we're talking about empires and
kingdoms. Understand that an empire is, an empire consists of kingdoms. So an empire subdues other cultures
and kingdoms and receives tribute and so forth. So that's why I paint this as an empire. So the gods,
the collective effort of the gods, that dividing the earth among themselves, that is an empire
among the gods. Now, each of those gods had their own dynasties, which were their own little
pet kingdoms, their own little private kingdoms governed by their sons. And the reason why that's,
the reason why that's an important distinction is because of what happens next. And what happens next
is, you know, men began to cry out, I think, after a thousand years of this. Men began to cry out
to God and petition heaven for redress of the watchers' crime. So this is a legal thing that's
happening here. Men, they willingly did this bargain with the watchers. So they were getting what they
deserved. And, and, you know, in the beginning, men were probably thinking that they, as I said,
had gotten the better part of the deal because they were, they had this new technology. Who knows what
it was. It might have been beyond just, you know, bronze and iron breastplates and swords and
so forth that might have been, you know, who knows? Maybe they, maybe they had some kind of flying machines.
Maybe they were able to create, who knows what they were able to do with the technology that the
watchers taught them and gave them. But the point is that, so you have all these individual kingdoms
that are full of human beings. They're not just a bunch of giants. No, the giants are on,
they're at the top of the pecking order. They're the kings. The subjects of the kingdoms are the
offspring of Adam. And they're being tyrannized. They're being ruled over by these hybrid demigods
in this empire of the gods.
And they begin to cry out to heaven.
This is now mankind beseeching the court of heaven, again, for redress of the watchers' crimes
and to do something about this terrible situation, which was their fault.
They did the deal.
Now they're reaping, now they're just, they're reaping what they sowed.
Which is like why you can say it was justified to send the flood.
Well, to go all the way back to like, the average Christian probably thinks,
would God let that happen? Well, it's human beings that allowed that transaction to originally take
place. Because we have dominion of the earth. He gave it to us. We willfully
gave it to the watchers. Abdicated our authority. We authorized the watchers to do this.
This is how the kingdom works. It is a kingdom of order. And by the way, it's just like today.
Why did God allow the Roman Empire to conquer Israel, to conquer Judea before Christ was born?
Well, yes. And God uses kingdoms for judgment. He does that all the time.
It's like the modus operandi.
It was like the exile in Babylon, right?
He allows these things to pass judgment upon his people.
Exactly.
But the point here is that the mechanism is a mechanism of authority.
The kingdom of heaven is not a mishmash of just impulses.
It is a kingdom of law and order.
And God does not transgress his own laws.
He establishes the laws and all of creation abides by those laws.
And so those laws are in play on the earth.
We have been given dominion.
are the governors of this place. Now, the Bible says that if a wicked man governs, the people mourn,
if the righteous man governs the people rejoice. So we get what we deserve. And if the people are wicked
and they have wicked rulers, God doesn't come in and intervene and dethrone that ruler and put
somebody better on the throne. Sometimes he will to accomplish his purpose. But most of the time,
he doesn't. It plays out the way that we, we're the one staring the ship. So, you know, we reap what we sow.
What happened with the giants and in all of the bloodshed and everything that happened in the antediluvian world was mankind reaping what he had sown with this Faustian bargain he made with the watchers.
Instead of being faithful to the king of heaven, again, and turning those watchers away and saying, absolutely not, your traitors, we're faithful to the king.
Instead of doing that, they joined into the insurrection.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, Jen 6 says that.
It says that the wickedness of the human race was so much that every inclination of the human heart was only evil.
So they had-continually.
They willingly participated.
They decided to join the bad guys.
They willingly threw in with them.
It's just very much a Garden of Eden scenario again.
It's just more broad.
Exactly.
It's like kind of divvied up and giving to everybody.
Exactly.
It seems like that original transaction must have been more.
I think it's in your mind you'd think, oh, they just cruised down and took some.
ladies, but there probably was some sort of ceremony. Oh, it would have been, it would have been with all the
pomp and ceremony of an official wedding. And beyond that, my God, you are, let's say you are
one of the sons of Kane. You're giving your daughter's hand in marriage, not to some illustrious
governor or warrior or hunter. You are giving your daughter away to a God. You are giving your daughter
away to this esteemed member of the elder race, this angelic being. That in and of itself,
Think about how proud these men would have been initially, knowing that their daughters,
basically they were in the family of the gods, their daughters, their offspring, their grandchildren
were demigods.
Makes you really think, like, you know, in the future, the same thing's probably going to happen,
you know?
What makes you cooler?
Yeah, and it is going to happen again in a similar way, not exactly the same, but in a similar
way.
So the golden age, so to kind of get back where we were, the golden age, there's, there's, there's
seems to be a time of plenty, but then the giants, sort of their appetite becomes unsatiable.
Yes. And they start eating humans. I think you're right. I think you're hitting on an important
point here. We don't, we shouldn't assume that the golden age descended into this tyrannical,
dystopian nightmare right away. I mean, the watchers wanted to govern the earth. They didn't just
want to devour it. They didn't want their sons just to eat everybody. And then what? They wanted to
establish an empire, which they did. And maybe even there were elements of this governance by the watchers,
remember, through their hybrid sons, that was somewhat benevolent.
Maybe they did care for the people at first, but it descended into a bloodbath.
Humans were not just in the sense that the giants started devouring human beings,
because human beings could not sustain them anymore.
And so think of it in terms of tribute and taxes.
The kingdom, the kings are exacting these taxes from the human beings.
Man, look, I need to eat a 15-foot pile of meat every day.
And if you don't bring it to me, then I'm eating your children.
That's what it is.
And it's not, again, it's not fee, five, foe, fun giants with clubs.
Get that out of your mind.
The giants would have dispatched their soldiers to go and take by force the children of these families who were not bringing their tribute, not paying their taxes.
And they would have probably devoured their kids in front of them.
And the giants, by the way, would have been extremely, exceedingly intelligent.
These are the offspring of the gods.
And when I say the gods, remember what I'm talking about, the elder race, the watchers were members of the elder race.
These were angelic beings.
So their offspring being mixed with the human race that was so close to Adam, it was superior to us.
So when you mix those genes together, you don't get some bumbling, drilling from the mouth giant.
So it's like whenever we trade our dominion for knowledge, we get screwed.
We get screwed.
And maybe that's what's happening right now with the UFO stuff.
And that's where this is going to some degree.
But to kind of close this circle.
So the next thing that happens on this timeline,
Remember, now I'm referencing when I talk about this timeline, I'm talking about the book of Enoch.
I'm talking about the legend of Atlantis. Those two things are coming together here, this narrative I'm telling.
But let's throw one more thing into the mix. We can throw all kinds of things from mythologies around the world, even from the Inca.
We can throw all kinds of mythologies into this picture that put more pieces into place here. They all correlate, right?
So let's throw a specific one into the mix. Let's throw the Indian epics into the mix.
And I talk about this into the video that I published on YouTube.
I was what I was going to bring up, Tim, was the idea in the Vedas.
There's people have hypothesized there's a nuclear incident within the ancient Sanskrit Vedas.
Maybe you're going to get there.
Maybe you're going to get there.
But that's what I was going to.
Yeah, the Sanskrit texts, specifically the epics, the Indian epics, which are, by the way, regarded as historical by the Indians.
Now, they recognize that there's maybe some mythological elements, but largely this is historical
content to the Indians. When I say Indians, I'm talking about not Native American, not not
American. I'm talking about the country of India. And specifically there are, in the epics of India,
there are the two primary texts are called the Ramayana and the Mahabharata. And the Ramayana and the
Mahabharata detail the empire of the gods, not in the same way that I just detailed it, but they
detail something specific about this empire of the gods because they do have the gods and the
demigods and human beings. But these epics detail is the war.
that ensued. So now, again, it's important for you to have the architecture of what's going on here
straight in your mind so I don't confuse you about what I'm about to say. You have all of these
individual kingdoms on the earth that are established by each God individually. So let's say each
watcher all over the earth, different parts of the earth, their little portion of the earth,
or large portion of the earth, and their hybrid sons governing their kingdom of the empire,
their little corner of the empire. Now, those are the kingdoms. The overarching
governance of the gods. I'm referring to the empire of the gods, so the gods collectively,
which in the beginning was a unified empire. So what does that mean? That means that we're
talking about a ubiquitous culture. We're talking about a universal civilization using the
having in possession of the same knowledge. They probably spoke the same language.
They were using the same technological implements. They were at the same level of civilization,
a universal civilization.
A new world order.
A world order.
They had all sworn oaths.
So they were like all, they were all pals at the beginning.
They were, they were all bound together in a pack.
That's exactly right.
Co-conspirators.
The fathers were.
The fathers were. Okay.
The watchers.
Now, now let's call this what I call it my book.
I call it my book, The Old World.
And in fact, I use this term.
The old world order.
And what are we trying to establish today?
A new world order.
and I submit that what we're trying to do today is not to create something new.
We're not trying to give birth to something new, rather.
What's happening today is we are trying to resurrect the old world order and reestablish it in the earth.
And that is what's called, I call it the Atlantean world order, the old world order.
And I believe that that is the end game of, you know, whatever you want to call them,
whoever you think are pulling the strings behind the scenes.
But in the new world order, rather than it being the watchers who produce their hybrid
offspring, I think it's going to be the dragon princes.
The devil and his angels are going to do this at the end of the age.
But only when they know that their time is short because they know what happens when they play
this card.
It's the end.
This is the last card to be played.
But it's sort of the same goal, right?
If we all unite together.
Yes.
Well, it's the same goal.
We can take over God.
Dominion of the earth.
Like Tower of Babel.
Yes.
So it's this unity of this empire that existed for a very long.
time on the earth. The empire is, it's cohesive. There's a cohesion here in this empire,
but something happens. That cohesion is suddenly fractured. Now, we see the fracturing of that
cohesion in the story of Atlantis because you have the Atlantean Empire going to war,
and it's beginning to encroach on other empires, on other kingdoms. The Atlantean kingdom is
beginning to encroach on these other kingdoms and conquer them and enslave them, and it comes
up again. Because they're probably running out of resources. Right. But here's the driver. In the book of
Enoch, when judgment comes down, and there's a whole long paragraph, the judgment of God in the
book of Enoch, what's going to happen? God's response to mankind petitioning heaven for redress of the
watchers' crimes. God, there's this, there's this amazing paragraph in the book of being. I wish I could
remember what chapter it's in, but it's in the book of the watchers in the beginning. God pronounces his
judgment. And as part of this judgment, he causes, he incites war between the kingdoms,
between the giants. Now, the book of Enoch says that the giants were incited to war and violence
with one another. And that as part of the punishment, the judgment on their fathers, the watchers,
the watchers would be forced to behold the destruction of their beloved sons. And how are these beloved
son's going to be destroyed in a flood? No, in a war. They were going to go to war with each other.
They were going to hack at each other. So this beautiful, you know, from the watchers perspective,
this beautiful, a cohesive empire that they've created with all of their sons and, you know,
who knows, they're getting together, they're merrymaking, they're drinking, they're laughing,
they're as they're eating people's children, you know, and this empire that the watchers have
constructed, suddenly God is going to incite these kings, these kings, these kings,
kingdoms to war with one another. Now imagine these kingdoms. Let's say 200, right? Let's just say
200 because there's 2001st. 200 kingdoms ruled by the demigod giants suddenly engaging in a
world war. That's pretty epic. And I referenced the Ramayana and the Mahabharata earlier.
The Ramayana, the Mahabharata, it's an epic of war. It details this war that took place between the gods
the demigods and mortal men.
So in other words,
we talked to Gary Wayne about this.
And Luke and I hypothesize him a couple times
that there are these ancient Nephilim wars that would have been.
Oh, there's no question about it.
There was a,
there was a,
how can I say this?
There was a Nephlemic World War.
I guess you can call it World War Zero.
It was the first World War and it wasn't just human beings.
It was Nephilim going at each other with their armies
and with whatever technology they had.
And I was making a point earlier that I, that I just, it just lit my mind.
You know, the watchers may have had, let's say a dozen, I don't know, let's say they had
a dozen advanced aerospace vehicles when they came to Earth.
Well, as I said before, I mean, as I mentioned, those advanced aerospace vehicles,
to create, to build more of them, you need exotic material that you don't have on planet
earth.
And the watchers, I don't believe we're getting off planet Earth.
Once they left their first estate, that's it.
I think God said, you've made your choice, you're locked in there, come what,
you're not getting out. This is what you've chosen. You're not escaping this scenario,
whatever happens. And so the watchers were left with whatever technology they arrived with.
Maybe they arrived through a Stargate, just walking through a Stargate. I think they arrived
in advanced aerospace vehicles through a Stargate. But the watchers, so they would have only a
limited amount of whatever they came with them. Am I making sense? So they would have had to,
they couldn't reproduce their technology, but they could create derivations of it. Right. They could
take their technological knowledge, look across the landscape of what they had to work with
on planet Earth, the oars that could be mined and the manpower and everything that they had,
and they could begin to devise technologies that were advanced, but not as advanced as their
stuff that they arrived. Okay? This is just speculating here. So you might have had flying
machines in the antediluvian world that weren't, you know, saw, they weren't manufacturing
saucers, flying saucers, but they were manufacturing some kind of flying machine. And the reason
why I bring this up is because in the ethics, in the Indian epics, there are these flying machines
called V-Mannas, which are meticulously detailed, meticulously detailed even with, in some cases,
engineering descriptions. And we're told in those texts, in the Sanskrit text, that the V-MONAS
operated on Mercury-Vortex engines.
and they could fly at high rates of speed.
They could hover in place.
They were these incredible flying machines.
So we're not necessarily talking about like a flying saucer.
There's only a limited amount of those if indeed the watchers showed up in those things.
There were only a few of them, right, or whatever.
But the watchers could have created other kinds of technologies that weren't as
as advanced of what they had brought with them, but were derivations of their technology
based on the material as available on the earth and the time frame in which these things
were able to be created.
So you could have had kingdoms, nephalemic kingdoms, going to war with each other with all kinds of exotic technologies derived from the knowledge of the watchers.
You could have had missile type or energy beam type weapons.
You could have had flying machines like VMONAs or other kinds of flying machines.
You could have had other kinds of armaments that might resemble some of what we have today, other kinds of kinetic weapons.
This is the kind of war that I'm trying to, I'm trying to.
paint this picture because it's just a big movie in my head and I'm trying to convey it in words.
I need to make a graphic novel or something. And so you have these empires, these kingdoms of the
watchers, these Nephilimic kingdoms going to war with each other. They're incited to war.
God incites them to war with each other and the watchers are bound and forced to watch it.
So they got to watch, you know, if World War Z is zombies, what is World War A?
they got to watch their offspring just absolutely annihilate each other.
I mean, this is, I can't even, it's, it's, it's so much bigger in scope than anything I think
anybody has ever written, ever. Any fantasy novel, it, it supersedes any fantasy novel ever
written by any human being when I'm trying to describe to. And that's why I'm having
such a hard time describing it, by the way. Well, is there any like ancient books that describe
these wars?
Is there any besides?
Yeah, the Ramayana and the Mahabharata.
Now, however.
But anything like the Book of Enoch or anything?
Well, the Book of Enoch just says that the giants were excited to war with one another.
So, you know, most of us initially reading that, we picture giants running around clubs
banging each other over the head.
Yeah.
But I think that is so far divorced from the reality.
I think we're talking about a civil war in the Empire of the Gods.
bringing to bear whatever technological advancement that they had from the watchers.
It was a technological war.
It was bloody beyond belief.
It was a death toll that probably superseded anything that's ever happened in history.
And the watchers had to sit there and watch it unfold as part of their judgment.
Look what you've done.
We're going to make you, we're going to force you to behold to watch the destruction of your empire
and the bloody annihilation of your beloved offspring.
You're going to sit here and you're going to watch everything that you've created
be destroyed before you are punished for these crimes.
And so this is what was ensuing.
Now, we've said all that.
We've set the stage.
Now, I would say this happened sometime around 10,000 BC, the conclusion of all this.
We set the stage for this.
Now enters the cataclysm.
after this war. So now not only do you have to imagine this, this unbelievably destructive,
fantastical war between the Nephilim and their armies, human armies, human armies.
Not only do you have to imagine this war, and who knows what kind of animals and stuff that
they were riding into battle, who know, mammoths, I don't know.
Not only do you have to imagine this. Now you have to envision the judgment of God.
Here comes these fragments of this comet, entering our atmosphere like smold,
mountain and slamming into the North American ice cap.
And everything that I explained that would result from that Younger Dryas impact event,
all of that happening after the Nephilimic World War, after.
I mean, this thing is so much bigger and just more fantastical and more unbelievable than any
of us have ever conceived of, I'm telling you.
It sounds like Sodom and Gomorrah.
It sounds just like a macro version of what God does afterwards.
Well, it makes you wonder what really was going on there.
Well, we know that it, well, listen, I mean, there's a lot of parallels of you,
if you want to talk about it in that sense with the angels walking into town and all of the
wickedness that happened there.
And then God's saying, we're done with these two cities.
It just seems like a little.
Like a little.
And they discharges an energy weapon and blasts it to hell.
Sure. To hell works. I mean, that's what I was talking with Dave Hodges last night was, you know, when we talk about the judgment of God, was this just a preordained God and his infinite knowledge knew that the comet would break up, if indeed that's what catalyzed all this, that the comet would break up and boom, hit the earth right at this specific time? That's very possible. That's that would fit the nature of God. Or did God direct the comet to the earth? Or did God just blast the earth with some kind of a, you know, did the kingdom of heaven show up and boom, blasted the earth with some kind of.
a death star energy weapon and initiate this.
It seems like he doesn't even have to.
It seems like, it seems like I would argue,
because if you think about the flood
and what the flood represents with the water,
it's like the elements of Earth itself take care of.
You know, God is almost so great that, yeah,
like a comet was coming for them long ago.
Right.
It was like predestined to hit them, you know?
It feels that way.
It feels these, you know, because they weren't
given dominion, every single empire met at sticky end. Something happened to it. It couldn't survive.
It couldn't flourish forever. It was always going to be taken down, but it seems to the way,
to me it would be, he wouldn't need an energy being. And I agree with you. I would say that it would
be God would have foreknown what was going to happen. He set that comet on its path from the beginning
to crash into the earth exactly at the right moment in response to the petitioning of the human race,
petitioning God. Remember, in the midst of all this crazy stuff going on, there was the righteous
line of Seth. There was the good guys. There was the righteous line of Seth who were being
instructed by Enoch. And Enoch was guiding them. That's why Enoch, he was teaching them. His name
means to teach or to initiate. He was teaching mankind. And he was keeping this remnant of man.
kind faithful to God. And of course, he was being shown what was going to happen, and he is the one
who's chose God chooses Enoch to deliver this sentencing to the watchers. He becomes the mediator
between the judgment of heaven and the watchers, between the court of heaven and the watchers.
Why? Because he's a son of Adam, and he is representing the human race. He's representing the
the offspring of Adam, and he is being the intermediate, and that's why he is delivering the
sentencing to the watchers. God used a son of Adam to sentence the watcher, to the watchers.
And remember that the watchers, by the way, after all this mess, after they created this
empire and this whole thing went awry, they were petitioning God. They were seeking clemency
from the court of heaven, and they were even beseeching the court of heaven on behalf of their
sons. And remember that when Enoch arrived to them with this with this the sentence in hand,
the watchers were covering their faces, weeping, weeping. And they realized that the time for
judgment had come. And Enoch delivered this, this terrible news to them, that you shall have
no peace. That's like the worst thing you could ever imagine hearing from gun.
God, you shall have no peace.
And, and, you know, the whole situation.
It's very interesting because I think it's a, it reinforces my whole point about
dominion of the earth and, and, and all of that because the way that Enoch has used as
intermediate here.
So it wasn't just the bad guys running amok.
There was a line of, and remember also we could, we've talked about before the genetic
stuff happening on the earth and speculated about that and the corruption of all flesh.
and part of, I think, what Enoch and the righteous were doing in the line of Seth was God was maintaining a pure stock of the human species through all of this, that would not be corrupted, that would not be turned to insurrection with the watchers.
And that would not be killed, by the way.
So there must have been a scenario in which these guys were protected through all of this.
I mean, you would think that the first thing that the watchers would want to do would be to send their sons to go eat all of the offspring of,
Seth. But that didn't happen. So maybe God was hiding them or protecting them, or maybe they were
just a powerful kingdom in and of themselves. I don't know. I mean, we always think about these
antediluvians. We always think about Noah and Methuselah and Lamek and Enoch and all these guys
being just like these sandalclad sort of dopey Fred Flintstones. But maybe, maybe we're dealing with
something that we can't even really comprehend. We're dealing with a situation.
in which this was a kingdom. It wasn't just the line of Seth, just a bunch of random people living
in huts. Maybe these guys were so advanced and sophisticated that they had their own, who knows,
readout somewhere and they were defending it themselves or it was just being defended by God
in the midst of all this. But something was happening. The line of Seth was protected and preserved.
That is evident with Noah and his family line. They were protected.
The comet showing up. It makes me think of another Bible story, which I think is fascinating.
the idea that you think about Abraham when he goes to sacrifice Isaac, right?
And he takes him up there.
And at the moment that he is submitted to God and he will say, I will sacrifice my son that they waited for.
And God intervenes, there's a ram.
And our pastor at our church said an amazing sermon about this.
But the idea that God sent this ram, this ram started somewhere and was sent up, you know,
up the mountain and to this place to the precise time to God intervening and there being that being the sacrifice.
not by accident, but long before Abraham had decided and obeyed and taken his son and bound his son and got it intervened, God had already sent the ramp.
It was already there.
And I think in the same way, I think it's easy to say the God in his infinite knowledge beginning and end, the uncreated one, knew this was going to happen and set these things into motion in order to pass his judgment that he knew would happen and knew would come, right?
I mean, I see parallels there in the idea that, like, we have an infinite God who is outside of time,
as seen in the beginning and is forenows all, and could have easily, in the same way that he destroyed
Saddam Gomorrah sent, you know, a comet outside of time, whenever that appointed time to reach
at the appointed time in the same way.
I think it's such a fascinating idea.
And yeah, I think it's completely within the realm of who God is in his character.
We see it again in the instance of the ram with, you know, because this, in the same way,
he had to send that ram on his way. The ram had to start somewhere to end up at that same place at the same time. At the exact time, it had to be there in order to be the substitute sacrifice for Abraham and Isaac. And also the indication of when that sacrifice would appear, when the son of God would provide his own son, his only son, his beloved son. Because God told Abraham, take your son, your beloved son. It was Abraham's only son, his promised son. It was of course, this is of course of the play acting, the advent of Christ, the birth of Christ.
and the ram represented when Christ would be born. He would be born when the ram is bound to the
sacrificial post at the beginning of the age of Pisces. And I think we've talked about that before.
So it's interesting, not only that the ram was there at that time, but that it was a ram and not a lamb.
Just think about it. You would think it would have been more appropriate to be a lamb, but it wasn't. It was a
ram, because that ram marked the age of Ares and in fact that it was bound up in the bushes and
ready to be sacrificed indicates that Christ would be appearing.
the son of God, God would send his only son, his beloved son, when Ares was bound to the
sacrificial post at the dawning of the age of Pisces. It was a time...
It's just the brilliance, too. I mean, God is infinitely brilliant in the convergence of these things,
right? The way even you're talking about in the celestial, on earth as it is in heaven, you have these,
it's just God is so brilliant, just the way he weaves in his...
You know, we're dealing with, God, you're dealing with an intelligence, the likes of which you cannot even
begin to comprehend.
Amen to that. You can't even begin to comprehend.
Well, the wild thing is it seems like the celestial events are sort of like predetermined
to like happen at certain times. Like, you know, the comets come around.
If you wound up the clock in the beginning. Yeah. And they were supposed to hit at certain times.
They were supposed to predict his coming and they were supposed to, you know, and it's probably why
the ancients were fascinated because maybe they knew that this, there's something there that it sort
of gives us clues of what might happen or what might not happen. And they were trying to figure it out
and build their empires based on what they're seeing and what they have knowledge of. It's absolutely
mind-blowing. Think about this. Think about this in the way that the Egyptians thought about,
Zeptepe. The gods are on earth. Their hybrid offspring are on earth. They're living among men.
I mean, you know, you have to imagine going to maybe a megalithic temple being one of these
human beings, going to megalithic temple and not not worshiping the effigy of a god, not
worshiping a statue, but there he is sitting there. He's there. Like Zeus is in the temple. He's there.
I mean, that's what we're talking about, the watchers. And what an affront to God, stealing the glory
that belonged to God. In the long suffering of God, long suffering, waiting, waiting, waiting,
waiting for the people to repent. And they didn't. They don't. And so,
You know, so he decides, he laments that he created mankind and he decides, I'm going to spare, you know, only these ones and the rest are gone.
Well, I think that you see this theme repeating and I think calling it the golden age is really, you know, probably the best way to describe it because they try to do this again and again and again, but it gets a little bit dumbed down every single time, right?
So we see this, you know, the golden age.
And then after the fact, they try to bring the giants back.
they try to replicate the golden age over and over again.
But like you're saying, the original golden age has them sitting
on the thrones in the empires.
And the later ages, when we get into more of the weeds
of the Tower of Babel and all some of these other dynasties that crept up,
I mean...
But they lose their power, though.
This is what I...
Maybe a question, Nate, that I have...
Because, you know, Elijah goes, basically is like,
hey, you're gods in the bathroom?
Where they're at?
Because there's these deaf and dumb effigies, right?
That have no power when they become...
when they talk about idolatry and we get into the, you know, post-flood stuff, it's the,
they're not around. And while we have the refaim and we have, we have the, you know, the re-emergence.
I think we're dealing with something distinctly different in the post-eluvian age, in the age after the
flood. We're dealing with a very completely different scenario. When you talk about the ancients,
remember when I said that the golden age is the root and origin of religion and mythology in the
ancient world. And what I mean by the ancient world is is known history, the ancients. So all of these
ancient civilizations that sprung, that sprung up after the flood, were remembering the gods.
We're remembering this time when the gods walk the earth. And so the gods weren't walking
the earth anymore. And so they built statues to the gods. The gods were not visible. The gods were not,
they were distant. They were, they were imprisoned. They were, they were. Well,
yeah, the watchers were done away with by this point, but the ancients were longing for a return
to the golden age, but the gods were no longer walking the earth. That scenario was not happening
anymore. And I do not subscribe to the notion that the human race was being governed by gods,
by angels or fallen angels. That does not sink with the narrative. It doesn't make any logical
sense. And it's very clear that only that men were governing the earth from the post-flood onward,
aside from those Nephlemaic tribes that were in Canaan, men were governing the earth.
There was no God governing the Greek Empire.
It was in the beginning.
It was Alexander the Great.
And then when it broke up into the various Greek kingdoms, it was his generals who were governing those Greek kingdoms.
There was no God governing the Roman Empire.
It was the Roman emperors.
It was the first it was the Senate.
And then it was a Roman emperors who were governing the Roman Empire.
And yes, they said that they had received their authority from Jupiter,
who was the king of the gods and the Greeks from Zeus.
The Greek potentates received their authority from Zeus.
But it wasn't like Zeus was sitting on a throne in the temple.
But that was the case in the pre-flood world.
That God was literally sitting in his temple.
But in the post-flood world, it was an effigy of a god.
You see, there's a dynamic there.
And I think people have it confused that, well, the gods were also in the earth after the flood.
No, they weren't.
I mean, unless you want to call the devil and his angels gods, but they were not doing what the watchers did.
The watchers did something very different than what the devil is doing on the earth.
The devil, the way that the kingdom of darkness is not operating in the way that the Watchers Empire operated.
It is going to at the end.
But right now it's not.
it's almost like he's saving his for the last it's that card he's going to play at the end and when he does
he knows he's going to have a short time he's it's going to be his last card if you think about it in
like a virus like the you know the original virus of the watchers was the strongest you know and if you
think about how a virus spreads throughout society it comes back around but it's weaker every single
time right so the original virus the original golden age was the most destructive but then it
kept this idea keeps coming back around and it keeps emulating in culture and emulating in
society. But it's never going to be as strong or as potent as the original. And not to be
the legal eager the point, but again, the gods of the golden age were in flesh and blood.
They were there. In the post-flood era, when the Romans worshipped Jupiter, who was the
equivalent of Zeus, they were not specifically worshipping a particular god who they could see
and interact with. They were worshipping, they were worshipping the idea of a God, basically,
who they've never seen. But it was still an abdication of authority because it's called idolatry.
They were willfully worshipping Jupiter, who was an aspect of Satan, of Lucifer.
And so the way that the devil derives his authority on Earth today is a very different kind of
authority than that which was being executed by the Watchers. The Watchers literally made a bargain
with mankind and produced their own offspring. That was a direct governance of the earth through their
offspring. The way that the devil and his angels, the dragon princes, as I refer to them,
they govern the world through by proxy, but not through hybrid offspring, but rather by influencing
men. So men are their proxies. They are their little pawns on the board. And as much as we
worship and engage in idolatry, we're abdicating authority. And it allows them to operate in
the earth, we are allowing them, authorizing them to do certain things, and it gives them an influence
over the affairs of men. But it's a very different scenario than what the watches were doing in the
Golden Age. And so just to be clear, just so people should separate those two things in their mind,
the way that the dragon princes operate today in the world, or call them the fallen angels,
whatever you like. And the way that the watchers operate in the world and the pre-flood and the
anti-deluvian, the Golden Age, are two very distinct things happening. And for a very short,
period of time at the end of the age, the way that the watchers operated on Earth is going to be
repeated through the Dragon Princess. And it's going to be for a short period of time,
and it's going to be at the end. So it is going to happen again, but it's not currently happening.
And I think people kind of, I think there's some confusion around that. And I know it's not
happening. How do I know it's not happening? Because throughout history, we can see human history.
We know the arc of human history. We can see who the kings were, where they came from, their families.
they were not the offspring of gods.
They were men.
In every case, they were only men.
Now, someone could postulate, well, is it possible that there's a strain of the Nephilim in the world still?
Is the bloodline continuing, but, you know, they're not giants anymore.
They're, as Dave Hodges put it yesterday.
Maybe there's some kind of puberty blocking thing going on.
They're still Nephilim, but they're not gigantic beings.
Are they still in the earth?
Are they governing the earth?
then the answer to that is who the heck knows.
I mean, you just wouldn't be able to know.
And if they are today, then they weren't in antiquity because we know.
You can get into the history of Rome.
And you can see where each emperor came from.
You can see who his father was and who his mother was.
These were not the offspring of the gods, like in the golden age.
These were just men and women.
But there was a pining for that, though, Tim.
Like, I mean, like the pharaohs would.
Yes.
And they styled themselves as offspring of the gods.
And even the kings, right?
They would claim divinity.
Exactly.
They styled themselves as the offspring of the gods.
That's why every Roman emperor is, has a, had an effigy of himself dressed as Jupiter.
He, because he was saying, I'm the offspring of Jupiter.
I am authorized by father Jupiter.
Jupiter was the patron deity.
Just as Zeus was the patron.
Or the pharaohs were the son of Osiris or the son of, you know.
Right.
And Osiris was an aspect of Jupiter, was an aspect of Zeus.
It feels like Satan went and filled the vacuum.
Once this is destroyed.
Yes.
That's a great way to.
And he's like, okay, I can do this.
We're not going to, we're going to make it a much more, much more less avert.
But I'm going to fill this vacuum and I'm going to be the.
Exactly.
I'm going to exert influence in a way that does not commit the same transgression of the watchers.
Remember, the kingdom of heaven is not a chaotic mess.
You cross a line, you pay the price.
So even the devil walks a fine line.
And that's clear in the Bible.
He's only allowed to do certain things.
He can't do whatever the heck he wants.
he's only he can only do certain things he's only authorized to do certain things and it's like well
authorized what do you mean authorized well it means that the kingdom of heaven is going to come kick his
butt i mean that's what it means and when i say the kingdom of heaven i'm talking about technology
i'm talking kinetic war i'm talking about the good guys are going to show up and smack him around
right yeah i mean that's literally the way that's literally the way it is i just love this
conversation because it helps answer a lot of questions of like why were they doing these things
500,000 of years later,
why were they still trying to emulate?
Because they had this history of what it was like back in the day.
The glory of the golden age.
Going back to the golden age.
And also you just hear growing up in just regular history classes
that all these dynasties were just like
wiped off the face of the earth
and they don't know what happened to them.
Where did they go?
And then the jungle grows up and no one,
it's a distant memory.
No one knows what happened there.
Lost civilization.
And you know what?
That civilization appears to,
to be a universal civilization. You look at the megaliths all over the earth. In every hemisphere of the
earth, the four corners of the earth, you have megaliths that are almost identical. I mean, you know,
you got in Peru, one of the things that people think is kind of unique to Peru, these little nodules
on, they're not little in all cases on the blocks and the way the blocks are fitted together.
Man, the same thing in China, the way that the notches are cut out of the stones, the clamps that
hold some of the stones together at Tijuana, those are in Egypt, those are in Japan, those are all over
the friggin' earth.
Pyramids.
Because it's a ubiquitous knowledge.
It's a universal civilization in the antediluvian world.
How can that be?
Because it's the empire of the gods.
That's why.
It's the empire of the gods.
So when I envision this empire of the gods, what I envision is the following.
I envision masses of humanity, just good old-fashioned human beings.
beings, the stock of Adam, right? Not not hybrid, just humanity, subjugated to these demigods,
but humanity, generally speaking, I speculate, I hypothesize that they were generally speaking
a Bronze Age level civilization, generally speaking, but with some exceptional advancements
mixed in there, maybe some kind of flying machine, some air kind of airship or something.
I don't know. I'm just speculating. They were a bronze age.
civilization with some with some elements of of their civilization that were advanced like really advanced
but the demigods ruling over them the the Nephilim were in possession of extremely advanced
knowledge and technology so you have these demigods you had you know they had even more advanced
technology and whatever and they were ruling over this basically Bronze Age civilization and
what comes to mind, and I highlight this in my video. By the way, we're talking about this.
If people want to see this visually, if people want to see a condensed version of this,
go to my YouTube channel, Timothy Alborino, and watch that lecture, Empire of the Gods on YouTube.
It's episode 9 in the birthright lecture series. Go watch it. You'll see what I'm saying in the
condensed version, probably much clearer than I've been able to articulate it tonight.
But again, I highlight this in the video. When I imagine this,
scenario, this Bronze Age civilization being governed by these demigods, these extra,
these demigods with extraterrestrial technology. And indeed, these extraterrestrials, the watchers
themselves, the movie Stargate comes to mind. Do you guys remember Stargate?
Oh, yeah. In the movie Stargate, I think it was in 1994, it was made. I remember seeing it
in the theater. I can distinctly remember that, and I don't remember like all the movies I saw when
I was a kid, but I distinctly remember the day I saw the movie Stargate. And of course,
I wasn't thinking in these terms. But, but if you remember the,
the movie Stargate, Kurt Russell.
Kurt Russell. He just came to mind.
Great mustache.
He was the main character of this movie.
It's a great movie, actually. It's a great
sci-fi movie. But in the movie Stargate,
you know, these military guys go through the Stargate
and they end up on a different planet.
But on this planet, it's like an Egyptian Bronze Age civilization
because you learn in the film, and I hate to give it away for people I've been.
You learn in the film that these are indeed Egyptians,
this alien being brought them to this planet and brought their culture, and he assumed the
role of Ra, the God Ra. And so he was being worshipped as like raw, but in the flesh. And his
temple was a pyramid. So he adopted this culture of the Egyptians. And his subjects were Brongage
age people. But he was like an advanced extraterrestrial. And he had this, you know, his ship,
his spaceship, his pyramid spaceship could go out into, it was an advanced aerospace vehicle.
It was a V mana, let's say something like that. And his agents were equipped with these
kinetic weapons, his high technology. So he had this high technology and his agents were in
possession of this high technology. But the masses of people were Bronze Age. And they worshipped him
as a living God. I think that's about as close as we can get to depicting.
the Empire of the Gods or anything that we have out there now. That probably comes the closest.
So, and I illustrate that in my video. So if you want to get the visuals for that,
go watch that video on my YouTube channel.
And it can't be a spoiler if the movie came out in 1994. So you had your shot.
Everybody had your shot.
You know, I got to be honest. I got to be honest. I tried to watch Stargate SG last night.
You know, I did the, I think that was made the 90s too. It was the McGiver guy.
Yes. Yes. From the show. And I'm watching it. I tell you, I've never seen anything so poorly written.
It bored me to tears.
But the movie, but the movie, I mean, it's just cheesy.
It's just like the cheesiest thing I've ever seen in my life.
But the movie's really good.
If you haven't seen the movie Stargate, it's excellent.
The show, though, they sent him through and he starts picking up paperclips in the
Bronze Age and making things, making bombs out of him, right?
Just like McGaver.
Well, I love it, Tim.
I mean, it makes you realize that, like, there's, I mean, it seems like the original
sort of disease of the Garden of Eden was put in the water and spread all over the world.
same sort of deception, same sort of promise, you know, knowledge.
And it's kind of like, you know, the golden age of sort of, you know, the disaster of Eden worldwide, all out rebellion.
And you makes you wonder if Satan knows this and he can go back and say, hey, you can't do this without me.
You're never going to take down God unless we all come back together because the golden age failed, all these other empires failed.
So you're going to have to, you know, he's like he's.
setting them up for, you got to rally behind me. And so we can war with God in the end.
You're right. That's right. I think you're absolutely right. But don't forget that, you know,
the watchers, what the watchers do was they came, they came down and they took over, you know,
through the agency of their hybrid sons. But I think at the end of the age, it's going to be a
little bit different. It's not going to be just, hey, we're here, we're the gods, we're here,
worship us and, you know, be subjugated to our hybrid sons. No, at the end of the age,
it's going to be a little different. It's going to be you,
can become gods yourself. You can become like the gods. So it's a little bit of a different scenario
playing out at the end with transhumanism and ultimately post-humanism. So it's not, I'm not saying
exactly what unfolded in the, in let's say the Genesis 6 affair is going to, is going to
reoccur in the earth. But the basic premise of what happened is going to be repeated. But it's
going to look different. There's going to be some different dynamics in play. But the basic
premise is going to be repeated at the end of the age.
And it makes you realize, Luke.
Every time humans get involved, something bad happens,
I think that's why the hairy creatures just stay off in the bushes.
They just don't want to come around because an asteroid's coming.
They're going to get taken care of.
It's better just to stay out here in the woods.
Stay away from these human beings.
That's what I thought I think.
Maybe the hairy creatures are sitting around thinking,
why did God put these idiots in charge it?
It just keeps screwing it up.
It just keeps blowing up.
Just trying to be left alone.
But this is what we're going to do.
This is what we're going to do at BlurieCon, Luke.
We're going to do this right here.
We're going to have fun.
And it'll be the same two dummies asking the smart guys some questions.
And hopefully trying to figure out where all these blurry creatures come from.
How did you guys?
History will be rewritten by two guys that can't spell.
Oh, that was genius.
That was really Jesus.
Well, that was straight Bill and Ted's poster.
I didn't even change the wording.
Oh, that was the Bill and Ted's tagline.
That was the Bill and it's just like,
didn't even have to change it.
Didn't even have to change it.
That's when God sent our ramp, you know, back at the end of the 80s.
That was it.
That was it.
Just two idiots.
The Stargate was a telephone booth.
That's right.
That's right.
We're going to make you translate this in Spanish.
By the way.
You just didn't even know.
last thing I ever did. He retires. You don't have to bathe for 60 years. We'll see you when
you're 94. I mean, anybody who can get to BlurryCon, you should go to BlurryCon. It's going to be
a spectacle. It'll be a spectacle is correct. I don't know what I'm not sure what else it's going to be,
but it'll be a spectacle of some kind. We're guaranteeing a good time. That's for sure. Something is
going to occur at BlurryCon. Yeah, exactly. Something will occur. Well, Tim. Somebody is not a
show up in a bigfoot suit and it will probably be luke man it's it's a it's a good guess it won't be your typical
suit and tie bible prophecy conference i'll give you i'll give you that much there will be there will be some
fun times but no tim thanks so much for coming on our show thanks for all years of trying to pound into
our heads more of this ancient world and figuring out these creatures and you put you provide a lot of
context and obviously you know it's really cool to see one of our episodes that we did a year ago like go
viral this summer and rope a lot of people into the blurry. And so I think that's a, that's been a
huge part of our podcast and a huge part of why we're even being able to do this event.
So grateful, man. Thanks, man. I'm just trying to help you guys expand the blurry verse.
That's right, B, B, that's right. Let's go. Just step into the star, step in the star gate.
Come on over. Building the blurry empire. That's right. Yes. We're just having fun.
Thanks, brother. We appreciate it. Who knew. Yeah, man. Thank you guys. It's always a pleasure.
All right. Yeah. Hello, the fam.
