Blurry Creatures - EP: 140 The Hive Mind with Dr. Michael Lake

Episode Date: November 30, 2022

Dr. Michael Lake makes his Blurry Creatures debut. Dr. Lake is an author and pastor and legend in this space. He runs and facilitates Kingdom Intelligence Briefing, where he is connecting modern events with biblical prophecy. He takes us on the journey that took him from preaching, to directly battling with the occult. We dive into the biblical account of the Tower of Babel and its parallels to the end of days. He shares his thoughts on how and why the world must unite in order to receive the ultimate and final deception. Like Nimrod in the days of old, who will be able to unite the world? Why does Dr. Lake believe that the spirit of Nimrod himself will inhabit the Anti-Christ and convince humanity to beg for genetic upgrades?  Guest: https://kingdomintelligencebriefing.com/tag/nimrod/ Intro song: "Free Fall" New Arcades  contact: [e-mail] blurrycreatures.com Socials instagram.com/blurrycreatures facebook.com/blurrycreatures twitter.com/blurrycreatures Music Kyle Monroe: tinytaperoom.com Aaron Green: https://www.instagram.com/aaronkgreen/ Mastering: ironwingstudios.com Outro Song: TimeCop1983: timecop1983.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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See, it's time for us to get back in the book, us to understand the different worldviews, and to understand that we are, we're of a different kingdom. There's two kingdoms in conflict here. And our job is to steal as many people from the enemy's armies as we can get by sharing the gospel with them and making it relevant. And if talking about Bigfoot gets their attention where you can show that's in the Bible and show that there are creatures that we can, and begin to imagine that was in the Bible.

And I'm like with Dr. Michael Heiser. I dare you to bore me with the Word of God. Welcome to Blurry Creatures, the podcast about creatures are old and new. We talk about everything on this show from, you know, weird creatures that roamed, the ancient days to modern sightings. Happy to have you guys with us. This week we have Dr. Michael Lake on the show. And we're going to get to him in a second. If you'd like to sponsor this podcast, if you love what we do, go to blurrycreatures.com

slash members become a member of the podcast you get access to groups like facebook group discord and other things and you get access to your own rsss feed where you can download exclusive episodes right to your phone um so many people have piled on recently thank you for supporting the blurry verse luke and i cannot do this without you so you guys are amazing once again blurry creatures dot com slash members let's get dr michael lake on this one the history of our earth is so different from what we can imagine. Joy to journey. The Smithsonian, if they found out about a large skeleton somewhere, was to go get it.

I'm going to assume at least one person is right, because if one person's right, it's bust the paradigm. It all goes back to the fallen church. And the problem with the modern-day church, they have a very truncated view of the supernatural. This backdrop that's just pregnant with all kinds of meaning associated with this Mount Herman event. And this guy defects from the kingdom. That's a big deal. But welcome to the show, Dr. Michael Lake, you're an author,

and you have a doctorate theology and religious education. You're a chancellor and founder of Biblical Life College and seminary, and you've written many books, and we're probably going to talk about those today. Blood on the altar, the kingdom priesthood, and the Shinar Directive. And we talk about all these topics on our show. We're called blurry creatures, and we talk about creatures, and that could be anything from ancient creatures like giants and nephalum creatures all the way to modern day sightings of bigfoot which is how we kick off blurry creatures dr michaelic what do you think about bigfoot besides having size 16 shoes it's been a bigfoot in spirit now that i've shaved my beard down there's not so many sightings that him here like supposedly bigfoot's got a 22 size and bigger he's got us all beat he does and i personally know someone that was a tier two operator in the military that had one dead in his sights that as he pulled the trigger, it vaporized.

And so they're, you know, and he's a guy that doesn't lie. He's a believer. Wow. So they're multidimensional. I think it's leftovers from Genesis 6. That's wheelhouse, Nate. That's, Nate and I've been doing this for about two and a half years. And we started out trying to figure this out. I think that's kind of where we ended up as well. So I love that answer. It seems to be like your story is, is not, unlike Nate some of the ones we hear which there's there's stories about having the predator thing where it kind of fades in and out and there's stories about people with raising shotguns and it it disappears in front of their eyes it vanishes it well they they it's very it's very easy to understand if you understand that we're in a 12 dimensional space that there's 11 physical

dimensions and then there is hell which is dimension zero as well as time and you and i only have access to about four of them since Adam fell. And so all they have to do is simply shift in other spatial dimensions that we don't have access to. I think that's one of the reasons why even UFOs will shape shift is they're moving in and out of those extra spatial dimensions that we cannot perceive. So what did he say that that looked like when Bigfoot phased out? Did it kind of like slowly trickle away? Did it, was it like a block? Could you see through it? Did you ask me those questions? It was their salad and it was gone.

Man. Just in a blink of an eye. And he blew a hole in his gate. Really? So is that close? Well, yeah, because, I mean, if you take a shot, though, and you get him, I mean, that's a prize right there. If you can drag him out of the woods, nobody has. Apparently, a few people have.

They either don't live to talk about it or they get taken away. Got to be quick, I guess. I've heard of a few people who've shot him and taken him down. But it's rare. You know, I mean, there's even stories about the lock nest monster. that they have it on sonar, and then it starts going in and out of reality it's there, then it's not there. I think it's the same concept.

I love it. Well, any doctor that can talk about Bigfoot is my favorite doc. That's all I got to say. You know, I'm six-four with size 16 shoes. He's probably a distant relative or something. I'm with you. I'm 6'4 and 14, so I may grow into the Dr. Michael Lake space here before. You know, shrinking this way and growing that way is the way.

goes. You know, Dr. Lake, one of the things that, you know, when I was looking into your bio and we were talking about, you wanted to have you on the show, I thought was really fascinating, is that before you wrote the Shiner Directive and really got into this space, you said in 1995, it just briefly talks about it on your bio on Amazon that you and your family found yourselves in the crosshairs of like an odd attack of the occult community. And that kind of was a jump off. It spawned, it seemed to spawn this, this direction with your life. Yeah, we went through a time I was a charismatic theologian, just kind of

minding my own business, and we began to find out some things locally. One of the things we found out, my wife got set free in depression. God began to talk to her. She began to challenge all my theological presuppositions that I was taught in seminary, made me exeat them myself. And when I did, I thought, holy cow, these guys did know what they were talking about.

And so we've rearranged a lot of things since then. But, you know, she came in one night and she said, God told me to pray because the occulture going to the Feast of Tabernacles this weekend. And I said, great, what's the Feast of Tabernacles and when is it? And so we looked it up and it was literally that weekend. And so we prayed, God did whatever he was going to do. And I mean, we had a witch crawl in the van after church that Sunday, after my family, while I was in getting some things where we've been home. We got thrown into the world of MK Ultra,

mind control, the occult and the Ozarks. I'm ex-military as well. Okay. So I'm not just, I'm a theologian and ex-military. And so I wanted to know my enemy. As a researcher, I begin diving into all their books. There's some books I've read that I've had to burn after I read it and say, nobody should have access to these things so that I could understand the enemy. And so it was out of that and God bringing us through all that. In fact, God, as he began to show us to shut spiritual doors and begin changing ourselves

to be more of a biblical lifestyle rather than just tradition. In fact, right before we left the area down where we were in the Ozarks, we had one of them get an unlisted number, call us at 3 o'clock in the morning, and told us that 24, 25 of the other people had died trying to kill us. Wow. And so, I mean, these people play for real. Dang. And it was out of that that I had learned everything that I learned that I began putting into the Shiner directive because it seemed like somewhere along the line in the 90s, we've lost an interest in Bible prophecy. Okay, so it's like we went from, you know, 80, 81, 81, 81, 82, 83, 80, 405. By the time we get to 90, everybody lost interest.

And now that it's unfolding faster than we can keep track of, everybody's asleep. And so this was my attempt to try to bring everybody up to speed on the real conflict that's going on, how it lines up biblically, and to really understand the times. I mean, once you read the Shana Directive, you're never going to watch. the evening news the same again. Yeah, we've talked extensively with Tim Albarino on our show a lot about this, kind of like End Times Prophecy.

It's great. Now, we've had most of the guys that Amazon tells us to familiar books, like Michael Heiser, Doug Ham, Ryan Peterson, Josh Peck, all these guys, they've come on our show and we've been slowly piecing together on blurry creatures, like how all these creatures

fit into the biblical narrative and sort of, the creatures in the past, how they're kind of coming back and people are having more sightings. are seeing just about everything. I mean, the weird stuff that we get sent to us is just getting, it's hair-raising. It's just stranger and stranger. And the episode we're dropping this week's talking about reptilian creatures.

And it's really difficult to fit some of these things into your biblical paradigm. Not if you understand Hebrew. Have you ever heard the term seraphim or seraphim? Yeah, yeah. But serif is a dragon. Yeah, yeah. So it's reptilian. But we also find out when you look at the Nechash in the garden, it was in Satan.

it was the seraph. Lucifer is a cherub. So we have another character. The Nechesh, I believe, looking at its etymology, was its original name. And then later on, it became known as the serpent, okay, or the dragon. But it lost its arms and legs. And to look at the dragons, like, let's say, in China, they have arms and legs. You go into Mesoamerica, and you get with Quarikw, Marikourou, you have a serpent with wings, but no arms and legs. It may have been actually the Nechesh of the garden. In fact, he told the Aztecs and many of these civilizations that he helped build was that the civilizations that he had created were destroyed in a worldwide flood.

Yeah. And this was coming from the people that never saw a Bible than their entire life. Yeah, I know. Yeah. And the plume, yeah, the plume serpent. That's a big, people even, there's a lot of people to talk about the America being, you know, there's the whole, is it a merry go? Does it have to do with actually a relation to the plume serpent and the plume serpent

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And we've talked a bit about Nimrod. You know, obviously he's the character who became a Gibor. He became a Mighty Man or a Nephilim, however the translation is. But can you break down a little bit of that for us? Because he incorporated a lot of things that would be transhumanism and this, what you lay out is brilliantly. is really the plan moving forward that they're still trying to propagate as far as the darkness is still trying to propagate today. Yeah, he's kind of the poster child for all the occult.

Whether you're dealing with transhumanism, you're dealing with alchemy, the whole concept of turning lead into gold or lead into gold was not about lead into gold, but it was humanity into gods. Okay. It all goes back to Genesis 6, okay. He's the only one. In fact, I think he was able to possibly achieve something that even the watchers, the watchers we know, what they did was in vitro. Okay, they and they impregnated women. We look at the book of Jubilees and some others. They were teaching men how to splice DNA, but you never found someone that was fully grown, fully grown man that was able to transmorgify himself and into a gibberine. When you look at the Hebrew word, Talal in Hebrew, it means to corrupt. He corrupted his DNA. But when

you'll begin looking at all of the variations of the definition. It also means to be pierced through to the point of death. You almost have the head wound of the Antichrist, all within this one word. So the end is told from the very beginning, because I literally have come to the conclusion that when the Antichrist becomes the Antichrist, I think you're probably going to use some type of transugenic apparatus to save the life of this world leader is when he becomes Nimrod. Nimrod is reincarnated, if you will, or incarnation into this person. Yeah, we've heard that several times on our show.

Like Apollo, right? We've talked about, some of the stuff we talk about with Derek Gilbert as well, was the idea of the spirit of Apollo, the Paulion, the destroyer being, all those things really being, you can draw straight lines and saying that they're... Jesus is the one who was, who is, and who is to come. The son of perdition is the one who was. was who is not and is yet to come, which would be Nimra. Because he changed himself, he didn't go up or down. You know, he's kind of like the Nephlem. Neflem that died in the flood became demons.

Right. Okay. And so he's waiting to enter back into the world stage so that he can finally be judged. And I like that because, I mean, one thing we do on our show, we didn't realize we were kind of getting into this is sort of exposing, exposing the dark to instead of ex-military, you know, and obviously knowing your enemy. And as we talk about these creatures, it's sort of giving a lot of people permission to, it sort of unlocks the Old Testament. Like, okay, if these creatures are still,

there's remnants of them, then they work their way backwards. They're like, oh, I can trust the Old Testament. Because it's difficult on our show because the Kingdom of Darkness just seems to get bigger and bigger and dirtier and more complicated than your, you know,

typical growing up in church and hearing about, you know, your Sunday school sermon, you just don't realize. And there's so many, there's like a list. So what are some of the things in the kingdom of darkness that help you kind of, I guess, categorize and help understand it better because sometimes it seems like they're working together and sometimes it seems like they're not. And it just gets really confusing. Well, there's competition. I think that at the Tower of Babel, when God broke up the nations, okay? He broke up the people. He confused the language. I also believe he splintered the knowledge that was given to them both by the watchers and by the principalities and powers that came into league with Nimrod.

at the Tower of Babel. And so there's this animosity that's going on. And in fact, I have friends that'll go to the UN and tell you all these occult groups are meeting. They're saying, you know, it's time for us to take over and all that, but they still can't get their act together and start fighting among once another, you know, I'm the leader. No, you're not the leader. I'm the leader. Because it's what God, for our sake, set in motion at the Tower Babel. But there's going to come a time when Nimrod comes back on the scene, only he is going to be able to gather them. You almost see the same thing, like when King David, was able to gather the 12 tribes. Yeah. It's like he was the first king that really gathered all the 12 tribes together.

And they know that. They know that there's certain things that are not going to fall into place until he comes back on their scene. Their job is to get this planet to the place that he can step forward onto the world scene. When he does, he's going to share with him the rest of the secret sauce and how they too can become gods. And I deal with that in the Shiner Directive. And it was even envisioned in Plato's Republic that you had the aristocrats that led, you had the military that kept all this workers in place and he had the workers. And I think they're wanting to kind of this thing with what's going on now. It's always been the same vision.

It's the same junk recycled over and over again because it's always the same plan. Can you talk a little bit about what you believe that plan to be? Because obviously when Nimrod was building the Tower of Babel, right? We know that that was a ziggurat. and the idea was he was going to make war with heaven. We know that's ultimately the end game as well, right? If you'd be Revelation is there's to be this war in which Jesus comes down and ends is the Bible, as John and the Bible prophesy.

But, you know, they had a plan and they were putting this plan together. And then God intervenes and like you said, scatters, scatters the people to the ends of the earth and splinters knowledge. But the plan remains, it's still going, right? There's these, there is, we know that there is, actions, there's, there are people pulling the strings. If it hasn't become more evident in the last, you know, four, four to six years to eight years, you haven't been watching. You know, what, what do you believe that that plan ultimately is? I mean, we know the Bible says a lot about

they're preparing the way for the antichrist and there's going to be, but like for a practical purpose, like what do you think carried from Nimrod and the Tower of Babel and forward? And, you know, how do they do that? And what do you think they're doing behind the scenes to really propagate and make that, make that come to fruition really in their dark, prophetic way? And I think the first thing, we need to understand was what was Nimma trying to do. He was the first one to try to create the new Atlantis. There was before the flood, you had the watchers and the Nephilim. Also, and when you talk about that in Genesis 6, it's also the first time Gibberim, the mighty ones, is mentioned, which is, they became the heroes. They became like the superheroes

of their time. The only thing is they didn't wear spandex like they do today. Maybe. Maybe they gold-plated. Real tight goat-plated. Who knows? Ghost-skin was in... But you look at Poseidon. You look at his sons that ruled. He had seven sons that was ruling with them

and all these different things. The occult look at that as the golden age. We look at it as hell on earth. They look at it as the golden age. And Nimrod was trying to become one to recreate the golden age. And Sir Francis Bacon looked at North America. He wrote the book, New Atlantis.

I mean, it's the same thing. So when Jesus talked about, as in the days of Noah, you've got to calculate in the return of the watchers, the freshly re-embodiment of the Nephilim, then you add Nimrod to the mix. I think that probably Spielberg and Lucas combined do not have the combined imagination to see how that's going to unfold. I think when we get to the Valley of Armageddon, we're going to have everything from dinosaurs to UFOs and everything in between. Bigfoot all lined up with, you know, with AK-47s, the whole nine yards. whatever, and in fact, there are some scientists that are Christians that are kind of concerned with CERN, because every time they do the particle collision, I'm trying to get the name of it

wrong, it's either a space lit or it's, it's a particle that there's nothing on Earth that can contain it. So it ends up gravitating to the Earth's core. And some have been fearful that it's going to destroy the Earth, and some think they're actually trying to make the Earth into a particle weapon that they can fire a Jesus when he comes back. I mean, there's, there's, there's, layer upon... Like a death star. Like a death star. That's what they're trying to make.

Wow. And, you know, of course, we already know the end from the beginning. They hardly get to say hello and it's over with. I liked how you said you compared it to gold turning lead to gold, right? So they're trying to do that with humans. They were trying to do that in reality. And you think they had the ability to do all those things. Like they could take humans and turn them into something else.

They could take elements in tournament to something else. Like you said, it's like, you know, Spielberg and Lucas couldn't couldn't come up with the, with sort of the imagination of the world that, that was pre-flood. Yeah, and I know some guys that have worked for some clandestine organizations. And in fact, I got a phone call from one of my students that was special forces at the time. He actually called me from Sodom was St. Throne on a set phone. Wow. And he said, hey, Dr. Lake, he said, guess what?

He said, the first thing we did when we got to Baghdad is we secured the ziggar out and they're hauling out the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the remit. mains of Gilgamesh, which was a Nephlem. Yes. We talked about this. Yeah, that was like super, like it was out and then they covered the whole thing up. And there's a lot of people, I don't know where you fall on this, because you probably have a lot more information that surmised that a lot of what happened with a rock in general was about that there are factions on this planet that are looking for the tombs of the

god kings, right? Well, it was antediluvian technology that they believe that the museum there in Baghdad. He had actually uncovered the original Tower of Babel. And Steve Quayle and Tom Horn and others talk about how that the U.S. went down there to retrieve those artifacts. There's like a thousand artifacts that were never given back to the Iraqis. And I remember they secured those things. And they said that it was like in, you know, world heritage. It was in the spirit of preserving history.

But strange things is kind of secure once you've gone to, once you're toppling a, you know, a government is to go. To a zigaride in a museum. him. It kind of reminds me what you hear about Hitler doing. You know, there was all the artwork. Yeah. But he was looking for other things. I mean, that was sort of like the first layer was like he was going to find all the monies and, you know, and Picasso's and all that.

And then, but it seemed like he, you know, these, it was so much more overt, you know, not to take a crazy bunny trail, but it seemed much more overt, like with Hitler's getting, you know, taking the world's artwork. But it's like it seemed to feel like the same kind of thing. Like they're looking for stuff. You know, maybe what you said is interesting, like the watcher tech. You know, you look at the women of real. I deal with this in the second book in the Sherryth Imperative. They're channeling watchers. Germany entered into World War II with jet fighters while we still have prop planes.

Okay. They were being given advanced technology. But, you know, it's like they're channeling these watchers. And it's like, you know, I left my Chevy down by Baghdad. And so you did, there's there's, there's a customized carburetor on that thing that you need to get. You know, and so it's like these things were directing them to ancient sites to try to look for technology and relics. In fact, when you look at, there was a bomber that the Nazis were working on that is designed exactly like the stealth bomber. They were working on that during

World War II. They were working on something known as the bell, which kind of looked like a flying saucer. But Dr. Farrell talks about this thing, was actually designed. It would float into an area, and it would release the impact of a nuclear weapon without a bomb to move to the next area and do it over and over and over again. It was kind of like an old weapon. We hear a lot about, you know, I mean, you can get as weird as you want on our show

because honestly the description you had of Bigfoot with AK-47s line up. It's like Chubaca. That's like our show. This is our podcast. Like, we would put that on a T-shirt and it would sell a lot. We love that and we love, you know,

just putting together some of some of the, these clues because it sounds like we've heard on our show they're taking people in UFOs they're creating this army taking them off earth they're taking them in craft and we hear all the weird stuff and sometimes it's puzzling and a lot of Christians email us like I don't know how to fit this into my paradigm

I don't know how to make sense of these things but I believe this person you brought on your show and so our paradigm is not big enough it's this brother of the problem we have been dumbed down on purpose look at Pember's work in the 19th century or yeah the

19th century, which had been the 1800s on Earth's earliest ages. He wrote back then what we're talking about now. Way back then, it was common knowledge amongst many in the body of Christ, but they have successfully caused us to forget our understanding of the word. I mean, we had communists invade our seminaries back in the 1930s. We had communist invade public education back in the 40s and the 50s, and we have been getting stupider with every generation. Now we have TikTok. Yeah, now we have TikTok. And this was done on purpose.

Yeah. The priest to the darkness never sleeps, and they have got to obfuscate what they're doing. And a generation that doesn't understand these things will be ripe for the picking. Help us make sense of who's like who's flying the UFOs and because a lot of people want to try to figure out who are they working for, who are they loyal to? to where they coming from? How does this, did God create some of these entities? Are they rogue creations? Are they part of all flesh?

Or all flesh being corrupted? Yeah. I think part of it, and this is what the occult actually teaches, okay? The occult teaches that these angels, when they fell, lost certain aspects of their power. Okay. So they compensated with technology. Of course, these beings probably have an IQ of 3,000

and have been around forever. They are not extraterrestrial, they are interdimensional. For some reason, Earth is ground zero for everything, regardless of what they try to tell us of being from the Pallades or whatever. I think those point may be the stars in the sky that somehow relate to them before they fell, that were kind of like signs in the heavens that related to them. But they're from right, the Earth is ground zero for everything. The Bible talks about satires, the Bible talks about lion men.

Yeah. I mean, it's all there. And we try to make excuses around it rather than taking it at face value. What do you think about like Golden Age when we're talking about watch your tech? And this is kind of off what you just said. Yeah. You know, part of what we've talked about on this show is that the part of the deal that was that was brokered with the women of earth was this transaction so that it was, you know, it would be legal. It was, we would trade technology for women to procreate and it would be, you know, a legal deal in the sense of like, you know, just like everything else in the kingdom of heaven, in the spiritual

realm. And even, you know, we talk about, we talk to people about exorcisms and all the above, it's very legalistic, right? It's super legalistic. You have to have permission to do this and permission to do that. And a lot of times we unwillingly give permission. But what type of technologies do you think that they had? Do you think they were flying around like in the golden age?

I mean, I know we look at the Indian Vedas and stuff and there are these weird flying machine things. And the book of Inic talks about how that the Nephylum, we're going to, God's judgment, they were going to destroy one another. You find out that from those Indian writings that there was a war. Yeah, nuclear war. We were using to. One of the things that, I can't remember which book, it's, I think it was actually the second one where I document that Egypt, there was Egyptian jewelry that was made out of green glass that they began analyzing. And the only way you can get that is through a nuclear explosion like we had in Nevada from the nuke tests.

And the Egyptians were, so there was a war with nukes prior to the flood. And you hear a lot about UFOs just. arming nukes, nuclear missile sites, and being hovering around. So obviously the good guys are using these craft. Well, it sounds like the good guys might be, why would Satan's, you know, minions disarm a nuclear bomb? They would probably want us to kill each other. So it's interesting, right?

It doesn't accept their ability to shift different dimensions. Oh. Good. We don't know the whole extent of what a nuclear weapon will do. How does it affect the other higher spatial dimensions are transversing them? Yeah. be shutting down portals that they're using. Yeah.

And that makes sense because we've covered several topics where it seems like UFOs are sort of fighting in the sky. There's lots of documented cases where they are almost at war with each other. I think there's going to be two kinds. I think there's ones of the watcher tech, whether I think the grays may, there's a lot of theories on who the grays are. One leading theory is they have made themselves semi-organic, semi-synthetic bodies for the demons, because if it's their own body,

you can't cast them out kind of thing. But they're definitely doing the bidding of the watchers. The L.A. Marsouli talks a lot about some of the idea they're like in a meat suit. Yeah, meat suits. And then, of course, they have had crashes. And I've had friends that were back in the 40s and 50s, had family members that were working for the government, above top secret, that would talk about these guys showing up, these aliens showing up, giving them technology to reverse engineer like it was Uncle Hart.

you know, Uncle Harvey coming from Ohio with a new gadget to look at because it was so common. So I think we have some of our own. So there could actually be our guys fighting with their guys. I know that Stan Deo talks about whenever they, down in Australia, whenever they got them, their underground base is done and helped them develop their hovercraft and different things. First thing the aliens did was throughout all the humans. Wow. You know, thanks for your service, get out. I see.

So there's, in fact, some even speculate that some of the underground nuclear testing out of Nevada was very possibly war, with some of the underground military bases that they had taken over. The Dumbs. It's wild. It gets weird. I mean, how weird do you guys want to get? You know, this is weird as we can get, man. Yeah, let's get.

No, I love it. I love it. I love the ability to go there. And I think that a lot of Christians, I feel like the tide is churning. I feel like a lot of people are coming to shows like ours and droves. And they're just like, they're over it. If your pastor can't include all the weird stuff with like Bigfoot with AK-47s and UFOs and stuff. Like, you know what I mean?

We need people talking about this stuff. It sounds silly and it sounds like a joke, but it's so true. And when you include all that into the biblical story, it seems to unlock it, and then people get more pumped than ever to make sense of this war that we're in. And I think one of the problems that we have, you know, biblical prophecy in itself never changes, okay? I mean, it's just the way it is that God has written. I think part of the problem is our understanding of being able to properly interpret it. We're limited to where our perception is and our technology. is. You know, I've been in this thing. I've been preaching since I was 13. So I've, I've been preaching

since 1973, okay? I remember that the Mark of the Beast was your Campbell Soup can, and now that your Campbell Soup can had that barcode on the back of it, it was going to hell and could not be redeemed, okay? Yeah. Wow. Now, now we know that the Mark of the Beast is probably going to be an entire system that's about a DNA upgrade that's going to hook you to the quantum internet that's going to hook you into the AI that once it reaches singularity it's just going to change you that you no longer going to be human you're going to you're going to be like an nephalum because it's part of the whole transhumanist thing yeah they're trying to create their god plug you into their god and and it will actually not only change you to where you're no longer human so you can't be saved it will

control your perception of reality because all your dad is being fed by it yeah it's like a hive It's like the metaverse married to the hive, right? Yeah, it's kind of like social media today just on steroids. Yeah. One of the things that stays the same, we talk about biblical prophecy, is the Joel Chapter 2 Army. And we know that's coming. And a lot of what we're talking about here, like, how do you surmise this transhumanism stuff and the mark, you know, even like when you talked to the beginning, you talked about

MK Ultra and mind control, how do you summarize all that plays into building this army? And Nate, you know, Nate kind of, we talked about what's going to be lined up in Armageddon, but there's going to be a lot of people, or at least former people, that are there. And I mean, foreign people, I mean in the sense that they've become like Nimrod. They become more hybrids, right? Because of they've given up their humanity. And we talked a lot about this with a few guests, like epigenetics, and the mark itself, there's these genetic upgrades.

They're already talking about now. They can change your DNA so you don't get cancer or you don't get fat or, you know, all these things are coming. But there's 2% of our DNA, and I'm just guessing. I don't know what the exact figure is. Someone's going to fact check me, so I apologize on this. but if there's a small percentage of DNA that makes us human, and part of the plan from the very beginning, right,

was to remove our humanity. That seems like they're going to get to the point where they can do that. And then all of a sudden, you know, one of our good friends on the show always talks about our dominion here and being sons of Adam and that giving us dominion here on the earth. And that the only way that we can get, we can lose that is to give it away, like to lose our humanity. And so we know that plays into it, but it's so multifaceted, right?

You have this. You imagine the temptation of this. Okay, you know, I'm 16. to. Okay, my warranty is beginning to wear it on a lot of my hearts. Okay. Imagine, okay, somebody coming to you and say, listen, not only can we bring you back to about 32 years old, we can bring your body back to the place as if your DNA had been imperfect. The best version of you possible and can keep you there for the next 100, 150 years, and you're going to be pain free. You're going to be able to do what you've never been able to do for in your life. We're going to bring not only clarity to

your mind, but we're going to upgrade your mind to where you're going to have an IQ close to a thousand. You no longer have to learn. It's going to be, you know, like on the Matrix, they just download it. So, you know, we see a genius that they're all excited that he graduated. He got his Ph.D. at 16. They're going to be able to get it at six, okay? Watch out for that spelling bee, right?

That spelling bee is going to be wild. Yes, it is. You know, we're just long. But imagine, imagine that the pressure. on parents. Okay. Yeah. You're going to make Jimmy normal, and he's going to have to go through 12 years of school

when his friends will go through all to school and be ready for college by kindergarten. And you're going to, you're going to dump down and you're going to handicap your child. And you see all the social pressure that's going to come with these things. Yeah. And just people that are constantly in pain or have some type of genetic admonauty. that they can they can fix what you don't know is the price that you're going to eventually pay for that. It's the tree.

It's the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. It's the same thing. Like, you can be like the gods, right? It's the whole, here we are again. Well, I think the thing that seems to be the deception of us growing up is that the devil

was always going to be this obvious character, right? He was always going to be stand out and you're going to know, oh, don't follow the devil's ways. But like you said, you know, the Bible has, you know, the Bible. has these reoccurring themes. David was able to unite the 12 tribes and turning lead to gold, right? So they're going to say, oh, don't you want the Google Kid, the upgraded version? And it seems like a good thing at the moment.

It seems like, oh, I'm going to gold. I'm getting the gold. I'm getting the upgrade. Imagine this. This is one thing LA and I have talked about many times. You know, everybody's saying, when is the tribulation going to start? Okay. When is it going to start next Tuesday at five?

lock i need to know you know everybody everybody's there will imagine that they have had two thousand years of understanding this because they read the bible more than we do just from a but from a point of counterintelligence how do we work this to our advantage and they create a fake tribulation period kind of like they're doing right now that is ahead of its time and you're going to have masses wiped out they already stand which is nothing to them because they want to reduce the population down to 500 million Godstones. Yeah. And so they create War III, the Gog-Megag war, billions die.

And it looks like it's going to be the end, the end of everything. And instead of Jesus showing up, these five-mile ships like off of Independence Day show up, and they come out and say, we're intervening because we're your creators. And then they pick the one guy that becomes the Antichrist as an example of what they can do. and then everybody's going to line up okay the world's been decimated we're here to take you to your next step in evolution but even the elite the occult do not believe in evolution it was a lie soul to us they believe in reincarnation okay but it's the lie to facilitate another genesis 6 event it's time for you to get your next upgrade we're going to give you a quantum leap upgrade

in your evolution because it's your only hope of survival now people will line up for the mark of the beast. And it seems like if we think about the, you know, the empire of the gods, the golden age, human beings were the slaves during that time, right? We were, we were sort of lesser. And they were the hybrids and their sons were the ones who were running the world and their empires. And so is that kind of the same thing that's coming? Like humans are going to, we're going to be slaves again to sort of the lesser Gs, the elites that have upgraded. And then there's going to be like this pocket of humans that haven't changed or transformed. that's sort of how history repeats itself.

Like Waterworld, you know, hiding from the smokers and all that? Water world. We're going to, we're going to, I think there's going to be those of us that are going to be like, no, that are pure in our generations, okay? I think they're going to have the worker people that have had minimal upgrades, and you have the military class that have decent, really upgrades to this, they keep all of us in line. But the elite are going to achieve immortality, okay?

And this is God sense of humor. You're reading a book of Revelation. These guys have gotten the mark, okay, and they have achieved immortality. God starts judging them and they want to die and death runs from them. It's like God is saying, how do you like your immortality now? Yeah. Yeah, it's the irony, right? You give up everything for the promise of immortality and you realize it's not.

It's like Pleasure Island. It reminds me of being a kid. Well, isn't the picture of everything. Yeah, it's like pleasure. Like from Pinocchio? Yeah, it reminds of that moment where like Pinocchio is kind of seeing it happen. Right. And, you know, he sees the trick, but it's too late for most people. And I think there's going to be people on all sides of that.

Like they don't partake, but they kind of see. But behind the scenes, you know, it sounds like such a great thing. It sounds like the upgrade. And are we being conditioned now to upgrade everything? Like, up, get the new, get the new this, get the new that. Is that sort of? We're also being sold PEMP spermia, which is setting the stage for the UFOs to show up and say, we're your creators because they've already calculated guys.

Now, this really takes a brainiac, okay? There's not enough time for us to go from a memorial ooze to humanity. There's not been enough time in the universe. So we come up with a thing that these aliens stopped by, and they cooked us up in a lab and dropped us off. But then if you believe in evolution, you're still back to the same place you were, because how did they have long enough for them to evolve from an amoeba to their advanced stage? You know, there's just all this circular logic. It just doesn't make sense.

Because there's another agenda involved. They're setting up the masses. And then everybody that's involved in evolutionist, town pushing this Pamspermia with such the stage for the great delusion. I just hope Randy Coyd lives long enough to save us again, just like an independent state. So how does Nimrod then come back, is a question I have. How does he sort of, you know.

Is this a real? And how, and they're let out, right? The watchers are let out of prisons. so to speak. But it's... I think some of them have been systematically being let out since the turn of the 20th century. Really? And how's that? How's that happening? I think the elite knew that. That's one of the reasons why they,

in the century before, in the 19th century, they planted three mind viruses. Evolution, eugenics, and spiritism. Which all came into perfect harmony to create something called Nazi Germany, which is the template for everything they're doing today. In fact, I agree with Steve Quayle that Germany lost the war, but the Nazis won.

Because we'd have simply ceded them. You know, the Nuremberg trials was a bunch of lackeys that got hung at the news, but the real culprits were seated among the nations under operation paperclip. And it was kind of like this scene off of Dr. Strangelove where we're getting into an argument with Russia and our comeback is, oh, yeah, well, our Nazis are better than your Nazis, you know. But they took their Nazi doctrine of their, listen, there's these beings that, if you begin communicating with them and working with them, they'll give you advanced technology.

And all of a sudden, technology begins to explode. Right. It does. You have like, yeah, you have the World War II and you have Roswell. And then all of a sudden we're, now we got iPhones. We went from little tiny phones to big phones. And now they're trying to sell us flip phones again. But, you know, we've got the computer in our hand that's more powerful than anything they had in a room.

Yeah. It took up a whole room 30, 40 years ago. This was more powerful than what was on the shuttlecraft. Yeah, I know. It's wild. Right. Makes you wonder if we really went to the moon. People talk about that. Say you don't, say Dr. Lake, say you don't even believe in Bible prophecy. How do, I mean, there's a lot of people that are a show that think that, you know, a lot of these prophecies have already been fulfilled and a lot of the end times theology is pretty bad. What do you say to a lot of those people? Because even if you don't subscribe to some of these things, I mean, you see the narratives repeating themselves. You see, even people I know that aren't, like my friends who just aren't Christians, but they've been my dear. lifelong friends will call me and be like, dude, this is crazy what's happening.

Everything in their spirit knows something's wrong. And I find it interesting that a lot of Christians take this position that this isn't going to culminate into something big and disastrous for humanity, because it seems that's like where everything's going. So I'm always wondering why people come to those conclusions. So what do you say to like people have the more of a preterist view of biblical prophecy? Because I don't really think that we tote that. idea on our show much. You know, everybody that I'm talking to, one of the interesting things that happened, you remember when the pandemic, the pandemic or whatever, you know, kind of came on the scene, there are two things you couldn't find anywhere, toilet paper and Bibles. Because all of a sudden,

everybody started waking up and opening up the book. And I've talked with people that have been kind of, you know, touching things in the occult and looking at the world leaders are great, and what the Illuminati are doing are wonderful. And one of the things I tell them, I said, listen, read the book of Revelation. Okay, then read these scriptures. Why do these people constantly discredit these things when they have been dedicating generations to fulfill exactly what the Bible said they were going to do over 2,000 years ago?

Why is the ultimate goal? Why do we have to have a New World Order? Why do we have to have a one-world government? Why do we have to bring all the people together, dislike at the Tower of Babel? Why do we have to have a super state without borders? Why do we have to have all these things? Is there any real logic behind this?

Or are there are people behind the scenes being driven by another force to pull these things together that are actually fulfilling exactly what the Bible said was going to happen? You know, I just had a thought. So let's say the Tower of Babel, one of the things that kind of brought the people together was the same language. This upgrade, we wouldn't have language barriers, right? We can instantly all communicate and come together, right? Google Translate, right? Yeah, exactly. And one of the interesting things, too, in the book, Genesis 6 talks about how their minds were darkened and all they thought about was evil.

There is a connection. There's over a thousand pyramids on planet Earth. And those pyramids have laylines that come out of them. But two things happened at when the flood happened. And Stan Deo documents this, that the Earth was actually about 25% smaller. Because it was hit by Bediarot was part of the breaking up of the ground that caused the flood. And then you have Pangea. You have it where it breaks apart. it broke apart the connection between the laylines and the pyramids. And I think that was part of their ancient internet, if you will, and their ancient power source. Supposedly, there is a pyramid that is a twin to the one in the great Pyramid of Giza up in Alaska. That's complete. It has its capstone.

Of course, it's supposed to be top secret and Westinghouse supposedly doing the work on it. But to their chagrin, this completed pyramid is generating enough power. to power all of Canada. And they don't know how. That's, yeah. So you think that some of the cataclysms, not only did it kill the ancient empires, it sort of dismantled their power bases,

their generators. You know, people are, you know, upset, you know, like with 5G. I'm not so upset with 5G. I'm upset with what they're talking about. It's either going to be 6G or 7G. It's called the quantum internet. And it will be broadcast on subspace. so you can be on the moon,

you could be 10 miles in a military underground bunker and get five bars. That's wild. With 100 gigabyte speeds. That'd be good for watching football on Sundays if you're on the moon, I guess. Football on Sundays, there's no hiccups, but also so that you can create a hive mind

with every human being on the earth that with the new IP6 protocols, there's enough internet addresses for every leaf and every blade of grass on planet Earth. But the Bigfoot videos will still be blurry somehow. That's wild though. Yeah, they can track everything. Every single little thing will have a...

You'll have your own IP address, and you're going to be jacked into the internet. So are we sort of warriors in God's army then? Are, you know, we grew up singing the song, I'm in the Lord's Army. Yeah, we did. We grew up singing the song. I mean, what do we do? It makes me want to, like, get out there and...

Number one, stay organic. no upgrades, okay, no upgrades. We got to understand the times that we're in. We use technology when it's convenient, but when they want to start implanting it, it's time to draw a line, okay? Because we're using technology right now on this and then getting the word out. We need to wake people up. We need to tell them they've been lied to. I have been told stories by people in the know that if you really knew how the world operated, you'd freak out. I mean, this is beyond Builderburgers. This is beyond the trilateral commission. This is beyond. This is beyond Devos, that there are meetings that fallen principalities and powers appear in the balcony,

not only to witness, but to give input on the planning that world leaders are doing. And that every nation has channeling, kind of like a channeling chapel, that they'll have like a woman of real that gets instructions from that principality for the leadership in that nation on what to do. And if they're doing that, why do we not have prophets in the kingdom of God that are making declaration. See, it's time for us to get back in the book, us to understand the different worldviews and to understand that we are, we're of a different kingdom. There's two kingdoms in conflict here. And our job is to steal as many people from the enemy's army as we can get

by sharing the gospel with them and making it relevant. And if talking about Bigfoot gets their attention where you can show that's in the Bible and show that there are creatures that we can I even begin to imagine that was in the Bible. Yeah. And the Bible, you know, I'm like with Dr. Michael Heiser, I dare you to bore me with the word of God. Yeah, yeah. Amen. That's, that's what we do. I mean, our podcast, and we've had a lot of success talking about creatures and people, people have seen something. People have had some experience. And it's sad because what we say a lot on our show, Dr. Lake, is that, you know, there's a lot of paranormal podcasts, but they're afraid to get theological. And there's a lot of

theology podcasts, and they're afraid to get paranormal. And Luke and I came along and we're like, we don't care. Let's just talk about the weird stuff. Let's talk about Bigfoot hanging out. Let's talk about the UFOs and the aliens. Just blown away about how many people have been coming on board and sponsoring her show and listening and downloading. We hit 55 in America this summer. And it's been awesome because I just think Luke and I just, we just didn't care.

Like, you can come on our show and get as weird as you want. And that's sort of been the recipe of blurry creatures. And it has become something way bigger than we can even. imagine and I think we just gave people the keys to get weird. Get weird. It's not, there's nothing wrong with that. You know, 100 years ago, what we're talking about right now, much of the church under. No big deal. No big deal. Really? Well, they were finding giants too. I mean, and they stopped doing that in the 30s. They were finding giants and mounds. They were finding giant skeletons. It was like, of course there were giants. Abraham Lincoln talked about

the mounds and the Niagara saw the mounds of the, I'm going to butcher that too. Fact check me on that. It's going to begin hiding them all here in America. Oh, yeah. We know that. What they have done is here's dead center. And that's actually what we're talking about now. We're not on the fringe guys. We are what was normal. And the priest of the darkness has moved everything so far this way that what we're talking was normal 100 years ago.

We're now on the fringe. Yeah. And that's kind of what I'm trying to say is like I wasn't really trying toot our horn. It was just more like we're just able to have these conversations. And it seems like the ancients were able to. And there was a time when it was like, who's God? There is no God. It's just who's God, right?

Your God or my God, right? And I think it seems like we're going to get there again. We're going to get to a place where it's going to be, you know, the atheist is going to die out. There's going to be a new narrative, like you said. And the war of the worlds, these craft are going to descend, and you're going to have to choose. You have to pick a side. There's no more apathy. Apathy will be gone.

You will have to pick a side, it seems. And if you're going to, I think we need to prepare now, get in the word again. now strengthen ourselves now. New book I'm working on is the kingdom warrior and dealing with spiritual warfare from a very unorthodox position because I see so much stuff and I see people talking about astro projecting and doing things in the second and everything else. When a lot of times spiritual warfare involves everything that we do on a day-to-day basis as well as how we affect our culture. And that's what that's what Ephesians 6 was all about, those principalities and powers, controlled the culture at Ephesus. You find that out in the book.

Acts. Paul was down there. And we think during his missionary journey that he was there like for a year and a half and they had a riot. He almost died, you know, because they were going to kill all the Christians. He had been there like three or four weeks. He stepped into the origin of all female deity worship in the ancient world. That was Ephesus for 2,000 years. That city had already been there. And its legend was the Amazon's built because it was near the birthplace of Gaia, okay, the ultimate female deity. He goes in the they're preaching Christ, they almost have a right because that principality stirred up the culture. And so when he talks about, we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principality's

powers and rulers of darkness, Ephesus knew exactly what he's talking about. And how those principalities controlled every aspect of culture from finances to education to judicial systems, everything. And he said, listen, our job is we're wrestling with their influence so that we can rescue people away from the influence because the moment you get saved, you're moved out of the jurisdiction of that principality or power in that area and move directly under the authority of Jesus of Nazareth. So we literally steal citizens every time we get somebody saved. That's right. It seems like Satan and they're preparing this army, whether it's creating hybrids.

And a lot of people come on a show and say they had pregnancies go missing. It seems like they're building an army. Let's just get really out of the box here. Is Christ building his army some way? Are we going to be a part of that? I mean, is he going to, like, it reminds me of the Lord of the Rings when everyone came at the, you know, the battle at the end. And it was like they were calling everyone out of the woods, trees, and everything was coming in to fight. And it seems like that's where things are headed.

But it seems like that's how, like you said, Battle of Armageddon might look like. So isn't if trees are going to fight, Nate? Yeah, it's got to get trees on his side and take out. I mean, I feel like he, I feel like it's, you know, it could get that strange. I don't think they were ever not on his side. Yeah, exactly. You know what I mean? Like, come to life and who knows?

like it says wow but no i don't know about that what i what i do know is he's he's activating the remnant and and i see the remnant has got special forces that we're going to return back to publicity we're going to return back to the purity of the word of god we're going to set all of our traditions down and compare them to the word knowing that how the enemy comes in is he slowly begins inserting traditions into our faith that are not biblically based to begin getting us off and if you do them long enough, people will fight you over the traditions before they'll fight you over the word. And the remnant will say, listen, if it's not the word, I'm not doing it. If it's clearly in the word and it's uniform with the full understanding of Scripture, I'm going to keep, that's what I'm returning to.

I'm returning to, I'm returning to a pure faith. And I have a hunger for God. I want to learn my authority not so that I can get what I want done. I want to learn my authority so I can get what he wants done in the earth because I've laid my will down. And we have got to become the example for a generation that has lost the fire of God, for a generation that has replaced true heartfelt faith for Christ with religiosity, that is almost nauseating. And I think God always activates his special forces first. You know, is this like in the military? When I was in the military, I was admin, okay? And so I worked at the

command level. Even our regular troops, I was third infantry division, 75th field artillery. A lot of times we spent the special forces in long before our regular troops got in there. They had to do certain things to make sure it was safe for everybody else to get in there. And I think that's what God's remnant are right now. He's activating them. He's motivating them to dig deep, to change everything in their life. They need to change to bring it in line with the kingdom. And then there were the ones that the regular forces would look to and saying, We need to follow the lead of the special forces. We need to follow the lead of the guys that are really on the cutting edge of whatever's going on.

And I think that's the task for us right now and to not be afraid to talk about crazy things because they do line up with the Bible. They do. That makes me think of something you said earlier and I would want to get back to. And you said in the beginning that part of you want to understand some of the occult stuff was understand the enemy. And there was one thing I was hoping you could just expand on a little bit that we talked about. And knowing our role here, the idea to be God's front line, you said the Nazis kind of laid

the groundwork or the blueprint for what, like overtly for what the enemy was wanting to do. And I was curious just a little bit on that because I know I'm a World War II guy. And maybe it's because I'm 40 now and it's like I like to smoke meat and know about World War II. You know, that's kind of one of the things, right? But my grandfather flew B-24s in World War II. And one of the things that when you watch enough of these things, you realize they had these very occultic in areas, these circles where they did occult ceremonies. The Nazis did the highest ranking Nazis were devil-worshipping, right?

But I'm curious what they were doing that created this blueprint. Because you talked about Operation Paperclip, and we know we got Von Braun here and NASA and all that stuff, right? And they took the people out. But what were they laying out? What was that movement they laid out for us to know our enemy? You look at the number of Nazis. They were like 5 to 7% of the population.

Right. Five to 7% of the population took over a nation. Not only took over a nation, but they went from stag inflation. You look at the fall of the Malamar Republic after World War I. Somewhere here in my library, I've got a letter of this girl that said, I always wondered what it was like to be a trillionaire. And today I made a trillion marks, and it was enough to buy a loaf of bread. How do you go from that to an industrialized nation within a few years that is able to take on a world war,

that the TVs that we enjoy was a Nazi invention. Okay, they had TV first. In fact, the Catharay tube was made by a guy in a golden dawn thinking it was a way of communicating to the other side. What the Nazis found out is that you can control the population using the television. In fact, they had a federal law before World War II, that every household had to have a television,

and if you couldn't afford it, the federal government over there would make sure that you had one. Because it was perfect for propaganda. Propaganda, exactly. Because it throws you into an alpha state so that you begin shutting down your defenses. You know, kind of like somebody, so almost like in a hypnotic stage. You ever see a kid watching cartoons? Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. On purpose. Okay. So you had this small group that was able to take over a nation to turn from stagflation over to a thriving economy that could build a war machine that could take on all of Europe within a few years, using occult power. My good friend, like Russ Dissdar, in his research, he said when they were trying to create the Aryan race, they were actually trying to backbreed to Nephilim, is what they were

trying to do. He had all these different things going on, and at the same time, they're trans-channeling all this technology from watchers. And so they set this pattern. I mean, the Nazis historically have the greatest economical turnaround in all of history. stag inflation to where they had armies and an industrial complex big enough to take on all of Europe within a few years. And win.

And win. And be able to subjugate their own people. And several things they did of it was universal health care, gun control. It's starting to sound familiar. They were socialists. And if you couldn't help the state, then you were a useless eater. another word that the word economic form disuse for all of us we don't need you anymore you're useless eaters it's the same nazism that's going on so it has become the template that they use

that makes sense you have this very small portion of of population that takes control yeah super sad but it's really fascinating because you lay a great case out for if you haven't had your eyes open to what's happening around you you know here in the united states and we're in the u.s and this. Why don't we have listeners that are across the world, but it is... Have you seen the pageantry? Like the Nazis, whenever they would have their big political things when they'd have Hitler speak. The pageantry was phenomenal. We're now starting to see the same thing in China, the same pageantry. We also see something similar when Barack Obama was going to accept the nomination for president. He literally recreated the template

Pergamus behind him where saints throne dwells. That was the backstraw for him accepting. It was all an occult ritual. And everybody just went, oh. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of people asleep. I think the thing that's so difficult is it always is two moralities, right?

It's not as easy for people because they think, well, I'm doing the right thing, right? I'm laying my life down for the greater good. And we also see a lot on our show, Dr. Lake, a lot of new age stuff comes up. There's a lot of guys in the space that push ideas, like the Anunnaki-seeded humanity. Age aliens, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

And it's weird that, what about those rabbit holes? Because they sound close, and they're also very dismissive of the New World Order, because they think we're going to transcend and we're going to go to the Great Awakening and all this other crap. It's really strange because it's, It sounds like they kind of get it, but then you're like, wait a minute, you don't.

But even their own teachers say before this ascension can happen, there has to be world unity, which requires a new world order. Yeah, exactly. And so it's, you know, the Ananaki are just the Sumerian version of who the Watchers were. Yeah. In fact, when you begin in Derek Gilbert and all of them have done the wonderful research on this, that the first thing that they said when the Ananaki showed up and then Liu showed up is that the creator died. We're now the new gods on the block.

Yeah. Which is going to be exactly the same thing when they return again. Yeah, I know. It's funny that nothing's new. I mean, obviously, the same lives are repackaged and rebranded and put out there, and people are buying it. But there's a lot of ancient aliens people out there that are really trying to figure it out. And I have a heart for them. Yeah.

Because they see it. They see the UFOs. They see the ancient history. They see the golden age, the remnants of the technology. But they just refuse to allow God. to be the center of the story. Their paradigm won't allow them to come to those conclusions. I mean, a lot of the things that Derek and Sharon Gilbert have fared it out in their research,

you have all these brilliant archaeologists and all this, and they're discovering all this stuff. Their paradigm will not allow them to come to the biblical conclusion. Just can't get there. I got it on a tree, but you can't see the forest. Because the worldview will not allow them to. It's like Mike Heiser when he talks about like how some of the most hungry people for the gospel or at these UFO conventions.

He would go speak at these UFO conventions because he said, just saying people are so close. Like they're already, they're so close to there. They just need to get, they just need to break that pair, just break through that ceiling and break that paradigm. How many, how many, you know, I've known guys that have gone to those conventions. It wasn't Mike, but it was some others that, you know,

teach them the power of the name of Jesus and get them saved and all of a sudden the abduction stop. Yeah. Imagine that. Who do you think, who do you think is piloting these UFOs? Who do you think is flying them? I think there's two. I think it's the fallen watchers and their minions.

They're not yellow running around with a little port holes. But I think we have those. And I think we also have clandestine groups that are humans that are doing a lot of things that they can blame it on UFOs. Because I think we have reversed engineered a lot of stuff. The military craft. Yeah. Military craft.

And then they can also experiment on humans and blame it on aliens. You know, I think part of the MK Ultra stuff has continued, It's just now gone under the guise of UFO. That's a good cover if you're going to do it, right? Then you can just dismiss everybody. Yeah. So a lot of people come on our show and talk about the hybrids. They've been building this hybrid race of humans for, I don't know, for a long time

because they've been abducting people for a long time. Do you think that they're going to infiltrate society and get us to all upgrade? It's like all these other people that are doing it. They look like they're humans, but they're kind of sort of the guinea pigs. And then we'll all follow, like, dumb sheep, like lemmings off the cliff because these hybrids that their building are going to assimilate because it sounds like they're already in our culture, they're already walking among us.

And so what is their purpose? I think some of them are, and I think part of its infiltration, I think especially those that are what we would call the Nordic type. The people that just look too good are stronger than they should be. I don't think they're trying to create giants today.

I think they like to have a six-foot-two guy that has a strength of a 10-footer, you know, her 30-footer. It's creating the Thor like individuals that these people can look to that can become new world leaders. They got to be friendly with the camera. They have to have that $10 million smile. You know, one of the things I deal with Nimrod is understanding the two faces of Nimrod. He was sophisticated and a savage at the same time.

He was a builder and destroyer at the same time. So, I mean, when the Antichrist comes, he's going to have the best PR, and he's going to be Mr. Gentleman in the front of the scenes while he's a ravaging wolf in the back. And he's going to have the best PR span that we have ever seen. There's going to be an anointing with it. Let me see. The best thing that I can probably compare it to, wokeism has an anointing with it that caused it to be a mind virus. That way Christians need to learn to recognize that because the occult have an anointing too.

Lucifer's anointing, he didn't lose it when he fell. It was corrupted with him. He was the anointed chair of the. covers. What we need to learn how to do is bind it up. And just like when God does something, there's an anointing to break through. There's anointing to break through the walls the occult has. The occult also have an anointing. And so this guy will be super charismatic. These people will be super charismatic. They'll have what seems to be like an anointing that they just mesmerize people. They're going to have their minions already out, seated probably in very high places,

doing their bidding. And you believe that Christians will be protected when all this stuff rolls on the scene, are we going to be whisked away, or are we going to be some hiding place? Are we just going to go through it? I think we're going to go through it, but we're also going to be the devil's biggest pain in the rear end. I believe in the Harpso or the rapture. I'm not a pre-triber. Now, that's what I was raised. I think we get out of here when you lay the Jewish feast because they're all about Jesus. They're not Jewish feast. They're the Feast. They're the Feast of the Lord. You take the fall feast, lay them over the book of Revelation. We get out here about 10 days where it's over. And I've got friends that are pre-trivers, and I tell them, guys, if you're right,

I'll give you a high five on the way. I'm not going to hold on to the table and say, no, I'm not going until the end, you know. I want to be ready to go through some things. And I think that the Harpso is not an escape valve to get us out of here before we get killed. I think we're going to be able to hold our own against the Antichrist, and we're going to have matured as much as we can mature.

And God is going to say, listen, there's nothing left to purify the bride. Come on up for the wedding feast. Let me take care of this jerk. I like that. Yeah. It's like you endure some of the plagues, but you don't go through all of them. The wrath of God, I think, is going to be poured out in 10 days. If you look at the fall feast and the 10 days of awe, that's God pleading with humanity.

Hey, I mean, the Day of Atomis the Valley of Armageddon, okay? You got 10 days, I'm warning you get right with God and men. The Bible even says there's going to be angels that are going to be preaching the gospel, manifesting preaching the gospel during those 10 days. And so, you know, and I tell everybody, know, there's a reason why the Bible talks about their silence in heaven for a half hour. It's so that everybody can change their dispensational charts and get everything outlined right because we're all wrong because we're looking through it last darkly. And our job is not to guess the right time that Jesus is going to come back. Our job is to be

faithful and to do what we're supposed to do for the kingdom while we're here. And if he tarries long enough that we pass away for whatever reason that we've prepared the next generation to stand on top of our shoulders and to take it on to another level. Yeah, there's always somebody who's willing to pick up, you know, pick up the flag and keep running, you know. And I think sometimes Christians just think like, I don't run away, but it's so much of learning to trust God is through suffering. I don't know why that is, but when you go through hell and back again, you go through the desert, the dry valley, you come out the other side, a different person. Well, here about 10 years ago, my wife and

I were talking about, you know, this whole thing with the occult trying to kill us for a good number years, all started with that witch crawling in the van. And my wife and I were talking about it. That was actually one of the best things that ever happened to us. Because the old Mike and Mary that were stuck on stupid died. And Mike and Mary 2.0 are just so much better. You know, there are a lot of childish things that we laid down. And God used those times to really mature us and to show us some things that not only

are we using that's beneficial in our lives, but we're actually able to help so many other people simply by what we went through and what we learned, along that conflict. Yeah, I love it. It's like God uses us, and he uses these times and these trials and these hard things we go through. And humans play a big part of that. It's like sometimes humans just want to pass the baton and want to pass the buck.

We don't want to participate in this war. We just want Jesus to come save us. But I think there's a bigger role for humans to play yet. I think that's a product about theology of this rescuism instead of us doing what we were supposed to do. You look at the pandemic that we had. and Christians are running in hidey holes. You know, one of the reasons why Christianity began to spread in Rome,

they had several outbreaks like that in Rome. And it was to Christians stepping up, ministering to the people while all the pagan priests were hiding, that they began to get real strong holes and begin to really get the attention of the populace in Rome, is that they loved on the people and tended to the people. They weren't afraid of the disease. They were afraid of losing souls. I love that. It reminds me that story of that one doctor that he was like ministering to people.

people with Ebola and he didn't even care. He just rolled in and prayed for him. And he, he was fine. I can't remember what his name was. Dr. Lake. Was Dr. John G. Lake in Africa. Yes. Yes. Yeah, no relation, but yeah. I was to say, one of the, one of the esteemed lake men. Yes. Yeah. Great name. Great name, though. I love that confidence. I love that boldness and I, and I love that perspective because it's, it's almost like David and Goliath. And God took him through some things before he got there where he saw the healing power of God and was confident with it. You know, during World War I, they had healing squads in South Africa that were ministering to those wounded during World War I. And they were getting as good a results as the regular medical community was by simply praying for people in Lebanon on them.

Kind of mind-blowing. It is mind-blowing. It is. It's just, it's, man, God is awesome and real. And, you know, I'm always amazed at, like, how. I think you made a good point about this, talking about, you know, the 18th century, but even you go back farther, how just how slowly, but intentionally, we've been divorced from the supernatural, like, in our faith as. And I think it's coming full circle here. I think people

are starting to, you know, as we talk about it before, waking up, people were waking up and realizing that, like, the ancients, they didn't divorce those things. They were very much intertwined. And, you know, post-enlightenment and in the academic era, you know, we forget or we've chosen to forget or we chosen to ignore or we don't believe anymore. That's part of the rationalism worldview or a natural worldview. Both of them in infatilism. No. And the only proper worldview that produces anything noteworthy is a biblical worldview.

That's right. Come on. Dr. Lake, it's been a pleasure. Yeah, thanks for. I don't know if we covered anything in the book or not. Oftentimes on a show, we have, we have guests back to kind of, it's always good to get our audience, kind of an overview. And then we come back in the second time.

and we hone in on a very specific topic. I think sometimes it's just good to kind of remind people out there that, you know, you can get blurry, you can get into the weird, and it's not. And there's people out there that have looked into this. And you help people take this serious, these topics serious, because, you know, whether their wife or their friends or their pastor, they won't talk about any these topics. So it's good that when sometimes we just loosely talk about all of it, because then

they can go, okay, I'm not alone in this world. There are these weird, blurry things out there, and these guys are talking about it, and I'm not crazy. That's kind of what some of these preliminary episodes do for people. I remember the first tier of the watchman I went out in, you know, I'm there, L.A. Marzuli's there, and some others are there. Yeah. And we're all sharing our stuff, and they had about eight, nine hundred people there, okay? It was really a nice size conference. and I saw this, I guess he was probably about 11, 12, 13 years old. He starts crying. And so I go over trying to console him.

And what he's doing is he was telling his dad, Dad, we're not weird. There's a whole conference full of them. Because his dad had research, you know, the days of Noah and Genesis 6 and the Giants and all that. And I guess so many people back home and said, oh, you guys are crazy. And then he goes to a conference where you have all these experts. and eight, nine hundred people all believe in the same thing. Yeah.

And I think from my end, I just, I appreciate the way you approach this stuff. And I think it's important, like, for our listeners to really think about it. Like, because you come from a military background, like exposing these plans and taking it all the way back and all the way forward. I think it's so important. Nate, I think we say on the show all the time that like, nothing's, nothing's new. There's no new, no new lies, no new deceptions. Everything is cyclical. Everything is everything the darkness does is a counterfeit and a bad one.

but it's good to go back and say this is what they're doing and they're still doing it and this is how they're doing it and that's equipping as you put it for a remnant of the church that you know is is going to do spiritual warfare and going to be holding on at the end to the pure blood and pure faith right it's the art of war stuff right it's like to know you know if you know if you know your enemy you can win the battle if you know your enemy know yourself you can win the battle if you you you know, and then he goes down if you don't know yourself, I don't know them, you're going to lose. But the whole idea there, and that's ancient, not as ancient as the, as the word, but it's, the principles are always the same. You've got to know what you're up against. And Nate, I think

we get some time, people, people that are makes us uncomfortable, Dr. Lake will be like, you guys are obsessed with the darkness or you guys are talking about the darkness. And it's, it's not that it's exposing it. It's understanding that like, you were born into a world of war, and you were born for, you were born for battle. I think he commanded us to expose the darkness. Exactly. If all you ever want to do is stir in the light, you're like a deer caught in the headlights. Okay. Yeah.

It may be a big semi coming at you and you think it's God. Mm-hmm. Because you have done. The Bible says, Paul said, I would not have you be ignorant of his devices. And somehow or another, we have re-translated that to where I would have you ignorant. And we have to stop there and said, that's it. I can do that. And I'm just going to be ignorant because ignorance is bliss.

No ignorance gets you destroyed. Yeah. But it's the illusion of safety, right? It's the idea that if you don't think about it or don't address it, if you're safe, it's the illusion. It's not just enough to know it. It's how do you counter it with kingdom understanding and kingdom power? Yeah, yeah, I know.

As you would say, Dr. Lake. It's difficult. I mean, you see people go through it. I mean, I was watching some unsolved mysteries, the newer version. And this one weatherman, he's tracking these UFOs. And he's documenting. it. He has to move out of Michigan. He has to give up his profession and everything else because everyone chastised and make fun of him. And then he spends the rest of his life trying to figure out

what happened that one night. And you just want to reach to the TV and be like, dude, here's the gospel. Like, you know what I mean? This is the best way to understand these things. But you see a lot of those parallels with people who, you know, like the Bob Lazar's and all these other guys, they sort of end up in this place where they're sort of taken off guard because, you know, like the Bob Lazar's and, and all these other guys, they, they're sort of taken off guard because They experienced something. They saw something. They were hired to do something. They speak out, and then their whole lives are ruined.

But they just don't have God in the element in the picture. And it's just so sad because you're like, man, you're so close. You're almost there. Just like one part of the equation. Yeah. And the most important part. It makes me feel like we're an 80s show. We do a lot of 80s stuff.

And I just have this A team feeling right now with Mr. T's coming out of the van. We're going to go. We're going to go do something. What do you think, Luke? Is Bigfoot fighting for the good side or the bad side in the end, the battle alarm again? What do you think? What do you guys think?

There's good and bad. I don't know. Sometimes Bigfoot saves kids, drowning kids. And so you're like, I don't know how to put this into my paradigm. At least what people say, you know, I don't know. I do know one thing, and where we're headed. The book Revelation talks about this, that there's a shake income of the book of Hebrews does too, where God shakes the heavens.

The second heavenly entities are going to be thrown into the first heaven. and they're going to incarnate in that process because God is going to fulfill the prophecy gave in Psalms 82 and that they're going to die like men. You know what that means, don't you? It's hunting time. Wow. And if you're in the South, that means you're going to deep fry it

and see how it tastes, right? It's crazy. Well, Dr. Lake, it's been a pleasure. Yeah, thank you. Welcome back anytime. This has been really fun. You're one of the originals in this space, and you bring up guys like LA and Derek and Mike Heiser.

And we're grateful for you guys and for all the work you put in. And just to kind of, Nate and I always jubber. We're just a couple dummies. They get to sit and ask questions, but we're grateful for the work and the hours and just for the truth that you're getting out there. Because you talked about in 95, you put yourself in the cross air, right? You put a target on your back and it's a bit in,

And the harder you push and the more you do, the bigger that target is. And, you know, we experience a fair amount of that, I think, in our personal lives here. Nate and I do just with this little endeavor we have. But, you know, we're grateful for your time and for your work and just for what you're doing, and for the kingdom on a macro level, yeah. And tell our listeners where they can find you and get involved and buy your books and all that. Yeah, our website is kingdom intelligence briefing.com. And if that's too long, you can just type in Dr. Michaelleg.com takes you right to the same site.

and our podcast are there our videos are there we have i think i've got like four or five hundred videos on youtube right now although we're in we're in the process of transferring them over to our rumbles channel because uh youtube has too many strikes with me so i'm not going to be posting anything up there anymore i'm going to where i don't have to worry about being censored yeah yeah i know yeah people always get mad at this when we're not we're not having a lot on youtube but it seems like so many guys come on our show they just get their job channel's deleted. You do all that work, you build your channel, and they just delete it overnight. It's really sad that they can just do that. And people don't even, a lot of people don't know.

So, yeah, go out there and support you and people listening and appreciate you coming on. Like Luke said, echo all those things. It's cool. Just ask some questions. And thank you for your time. And if you have any blurry experiences or if you want to come on in the future, you're always welcome on our show. Great, guys. Thank you for having me tonight. Absolutely. No problem. Thanks, Dr. Luke. God bless.