Blurry Creatures - EP: 152 The Death of Atheism with KingKat

Episode Date: February 8, 2023

The 2023 Grammys rocked the headlines with photos of singer Sam Smith openly embracing satanic imagery. But was it all artistic liberty and just for show? Is this just typical shock-rock imagery merely meant to stir up publicity? KingKat returns to the show to discuss his thoughts on society moving into an age of open defiance against the God of the Bible. From media to music, the cultural atmosphere and times certainly feel as though they are rapidly changing. People are hungry for, and seeking to have, spiritual experiences whether good or bad. Will the age of atheism soon be on life support? Programming, messaging, and media saturate the airwaves with the darkness as our children see their favorite celebrities and musicians openly dabble in or fully embrace the occult. Come along as we discuss the prevalence of the occult in entertainment, the brazen satanic imagery in media and music, the shadowy figures behind the scenes, and the use of mind control and MK ultra programming on celebrities and public figures. Tune in now.  Song: Oracle by Sub Morphine  Guest: Kevin "KingKat" - Instagram: @kingkat2.0 [e-mail] blurrycreatures.com Socials www.instagram.com/blurrycreatures www.facebook.com/blurrycreatures www.twitter.com/blurrycreatures Music Kyle Monroe: www.tinytaperoom.com Aaron Green: https://www.instagram.com/aaronkgreen/ Mastering: Brandon Weaver https://ironwingstudios.com Outro Song: TimeCop1983: www.timecop1983.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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it's going to become an undeniable fact as you move forward. that not only does God exist, but the devil is very real. And there's no way that we can deny his existence anymore because he is flaunting in broad daylight that he's here. And that he has people who actually believe in him and are willing to do whatever it takes to make sure that's true and proven true. Thank you for tuning in to Blurry Creatures podcast. This week we have King Cat back on the show. Those of you who know, King Cat, he's a truth speaker on. Instagram and a good friend of ours. And we're going to talk a lot about, you know,

basically what happened last night at the Grammys, all the weird stuff, satanic imagery that's just coming out of the bushes right in your face these days. And we talk a lot about culture. I know the Super Bowl's coming up, which also usually typically has its own imagery that they push on the masses. So we're talking a lot about culture, media. And, and, you know, a lot of the good stuff on this episode. If you want to support the podcast, blurrycrucrues.com slash members. Thank you to all the new members

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The history of our earth is so different from what we can imagine. Joy to join. The Smithsonian, that if they found out about a large skeleton somewhere, was to go get it. I'm going to assume at least one person is right, because if one person's right, it bust the paradigm. It all goes back to the fallen chair. And the problem with the modern day church, they have a very truncated view of the supernatural. This backdrop that's just pregnant with all kinds of meaning associated with this Mount Herman event. And this guy.

defects from the kingdom. That's a big deal. All right, welcome back to blurry creatures this week. We have King Cat from Instagram. Our good friend, truth speaker, truth seeker, fellow warrior, trying to proclaim the gospel, the truth and all the weird things in the blurry verse. Welcome back to the podcast, King Cat. Thanks for being with us again. It is a pleasure. It is a pleasure being here. All I can say is man no better way to start off the new year well they were already in February but it is epic being on blurry creatures again

oh do we yeah it's great to have you back I know that our first show with you we talked about aliens and exposure and disclosure and it was super cool talk about that and and since then I think that we've we've developed a you know like an Instagram friendship I know you're down in Texas and we're in Tennessee but you know big fans of what you're doing with your page and your work and really just having your thumb or your finger on the pulse of culture and then, you know, filtering

that back through the truth and through the biblical truth. And so when we, you know, when we were going back and forth, we had talked for a while about, you know, wanting to do another show. And it just seemed like the right time here. You know, it's been a record in it this week after the Grammys. And one of the things we talked and kicked around, Kevin, was the idea that, you know, the idea of, you know, the idea of of exposing and discussing the occult and satanic ritual and worship really in the entertainment business. And, you know, this week there's been a ton in the news about a Grammy's performance, you know, by Sam Smith that was really a bizarre satanic themed performance.

And I thought that would be a good place to start this conversation would be kind of we talked about pre-roll. And, you know, because I think there's a lot of people. Well, this is what I want to say, there's a lot of people, and I'm sure you've seen this too, and I want to ask you about this as well. Maybe we start with this is, is, is there's a lot of people on social media that when people raise the alarm about this kind of stuff and say, hey, look, this is very overt. They're not hiding anymore. Yeah. That people say it's, it's cosplay. They're just trying to do illicit a reaction. This is, you know, Ozzy Osbourne, play my record backwards. And it says, hail Satan. It's this, it's literally just a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's, it's a. meant to be reactionary, illicit reaction, meant to provide publicity for them, more or less. That's what people are saying. This is like sort of the pushback to the idea that they're just overtly out in the open,

showing their allegiance to the darkness. I would say, you know, there's a lot of skepticism, you know, because especially from both of PAMS, you know, there's political gaslighting and then there's spiritual gaslighting. You know, and so what we're seeing a lot of today is a lot of spiritual gaslighting. lighting when we see obviously, like you were saying, overt satanic themes and undertones when it comes to the entertainment industry or when it comes to musicians and artists. And I was saying this yesterday on my Instagram stories that Satan is no longer, he no longer cares about hiding.

He's very out in the open now and you have to purposely close your eyes to not see. And I really do believe that we're coming to a space in our culture today where Satanism and the undertones and also the entertainment industry, which is just very, very prevalent and just straight up in your face about who they serve is going to become an undeniable fact. And all those who had claimed the authoritative, I would say, adage of conspiracy, you know, these are conspiracies, conspiracies, you know, they're not really serving the devil. They're not really serving Satan. They're going to be humbled, I think, in a very, in a very specific way, because the hours late, you know, and if you're following Christ, you know the hours late. And we, we sense that

every day. We see it every day. And I really do believe that as the days go by, we will have no other choice but to acknowledge, not only is Satan is real, but his children are unashamed of following him. Yeah. Yeah. And on our podcast, you know, for those who haven't tuned into any other episodes, you know, I think sometimes what, you know, people come to our podcast to say, blurry creatures. We talk about, you know, weird physical creatures that kind of manifest, right? And where your spaces and our spaces, there's a lot of overlay, right? Like, the things that you talk about and the things that we talk about, there's a lot of overlay that, you know, some of these satanic rituals directly result in whether it's ancient history and what we see throughout the

biblical narrative of idol worship and the gods, the lowercase G, and modern day stuff like skin walkers and all the weird, you know, how how practicing Satanism actually like what it looks like in our modern day era. There's a lot of crossover. I think sometimes, you know, I just have to, I want to caveat with that for listeners that like, you know, we're not in the same spaces, but there's a lot of common themes that we share just what like the things that we talk about on our podcast. So it's good to have you back on and in a dive into some of these things because it does feel like, I remember our episodes with Tim. He was talking about the three eccentric circles, how they're all kind of merging into one.

Like, you know, you have this, you have culture and technology and all this stuff. It's coming together in one. When you say the hour is late, that's what I'm thinking. Yeah. That these things are starting to be pushed together in the center of the table. Yeah. And there's a lot of deniers. Uh-huh.

Yeah. And you're 100% right. And Tim's 100% right, too. And, you know, what I was saying before was that because the hour is so late, God really does care about saving souls. and for people's eyes to open. And I think one of the only ways to do that is for them to see what we saw at the Grammys. Because what it really does is it forces people to acknowledge not only evil, but what in the world is this?

You might have some normies who are like, okay, well, what's going on? I remember I had a friend who was like, I used to love listening to Sam Smith. Now, after last night, I can't stand watching. And so it's like there's an awakening happening. There are people whose eyes, their eyes are being open and they're being revealed to the obvious things that they had assumed before were just, you know, it's just art, you know, it's just music. And they're slowly, I would say slowly, but they're quickly finding out, no, there's, is not just, you know, it's not just music. It's not just art.

It's not just an artistic expression of self. You know, and like we were saying before, we are coming into an error of trying to understand what it really means to be human and the concept of man. and Tim's book alludes to the fact of we're entering into a post-human error, right? Right. And there's this book by Nora Webster. Her book is called Secret Societies. And she mentions how the war now begins between the two contending principles. And that's the Christian conception of man reaching up to God and the secret society's conception of man as God.

And where we are at right now in culture is we are at that precipice. We are at that dividing center and dividing stage of whose war is going to win, who's going to win this war? Who's going to win the war for the battle in the minds and the hearts of men? And one of the great ways and one of the great tools of Satan is the occult. And most importantly, I would say one of his favorite weapons is music. and music has the overt and the ability to influence your mind in a way that nothing else can. And in my opinion, and I could also probably say this as a fact,

I believe artists know this and they're the perfect tools and vessels to continue to delude mankind, to continue to delude a culture or obstruct God's ways so that people don't follow him, but instead they follow Satan inadvertently of not really truly understanding what it is that they're following. And so that's why the occult and that's why the entertainment industry and that's why music and musicians are so powerful because they're able to utilize tools of music in a way that is so subvert that it's able to completely change the fabric of how you think, why you think, what you believe, what your values are. Sometimes it feels like when you get that phone bill, it's like the crash site document. You can't read it. There's a bunch of numbers, random fees, vague language, stuff's blacked out. You're like, what am I actually paying for?

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has to be more specific and they have to tack it head on. Because music has been a driving force, entertainment has been a driving. force within the occult to persuade the masses and to persuade youth away from God. And I think the church has done a great disservice and really not understanding the power of entertainment and the power of the occult and the power of music altogether and how that's pushing this post-human culture that word that Tim alludes to in his book. And it's but like you said, all of it is merging together in a very specific way. And I think talking about it is great.

Yeah, I think one of the thoughts I have out of the gate is like if you think about sort of what the occult and they believe, they believe a lot in reincarnation, they believe, you know, so they have to, they have to tell us, they have to tell us what they're doing. That's the theme we hear all the time. People always say, they're telling us, they're telling us, they're showing us. So what you have is you have Christians who are awake to the darkness and then you have the occult who knows exactly what they're doing. and then you have this huge gap of people in the middle that are clueless to it, right? They think, oh, it's just shock rock. It's just, they're just trying to, you know,

and what we're trying to say on this conversation seems like, it's like, no, you've got to wake up to, you're being pushed to a side whether you get it or you don't. And we talked about a little about this, Luke, with Amy from Eyes on the Right about that Travis Scott concert about the, what was happening. And people were just clueless to, but there was a lot of people who's like sort of the,

call it the Holy Spirit or the image of God that they're created and realize something's wrong here something is not right in this moment and people were like in a trance they were like he was like possessed on stage and people were like it was some of the weirdest stuff I've seen and then here it is happening again we're seeing this happen so I think I think a lot of times people are so skeptical that this stuff is happening you know the the worship of the snake and the dragon has been going on since the dawn of time. It has its leaders. They're doing what they're doing. They have their grip on media and entertainment. And it's just, it's obvious. And as, yeah, this is honestly, honestly, why I think why Tim's hit it on the nose, Nate, we did the, you know, we did that

episode on what he calls the new religion, right? It's a, it's a apotheotheism. It's the idea that you shift from denial to defiance. It's no longer denying God. It's openly defying God. So, you know, the atheism, as we talked about in that episode, is dying. It's the, it's not that they deny the existence of God, is that they affirm it and they deny it. And I think if you put those glasses on, these seemingly rituals or what, you know, what is dismissed as, as Nate said, shock or cosplay or whatever, it just starts to make sense. And then, you know, then you start to think, like, you know, and this is what I wanted to ask you is, you start to look at other things that exist. It's thematics in music. of stymatics and film.

And then you go into things like the spirit cooking stuff that happens where these people have, what's their name, Marina? Abramovich. Avamovich, who's essentially an admitted witch who is doing rights and ritual and ceremony with actors, musicians, entertainers. And it feels like it's out in the open. And it feels like encapsulation of our culture right now is like, don't believe your eyes. Yeah.

Believe what we're telling you. Right. So don't believe what you see with your own eyes. This is like the last three years encapsulated. Yeah. It's believe what we're telling you. And this is what's happening. And people are, I just feel like people are waking up. Like as you said, like your friend. But some people still just drone on like zombies into this into this. No, it's just art. Yeah. The cognitive dissonance is really deep. You know, and so when you're growing in a culture that, you know, I mean, growing up, I loved, I'm still a movie thing. I love movies. But one of the movies that really, like, completely challenged my framework of life was eyes wide shut with Tom Cruise.

And that movie is still, like, it's still an eerie themed like movie, but also the themes behind it was just, you're living in a. bubble surrounded by regular people who are involved in miscellaneous seek dark things. And it's almost as if it's in broad daylight, it's normal. But him being in dark, I wouldn't say in doubt, him being brought into this new world within a world. And for most people, it's extremely difficult to wrap their heads around the fact that the world that they are currently in and the framework that they live in within this world in terms of how they live their life is not as black and white.

white, you know, and so when I first saw that movie, I realized, I remember I watched with my dad. It was like really, I don't know what time we were watching. It was late. And I said, there's, there's no way that this is even remotely true. But in my soul, I know what I'm watching is questionable. I'm like, there's no way this is true. Like, there's just no way. The cognitive dissonance comes in to protect you because you just can't wrap your mind around the fact that the world could possibly, possibly be that evil or be that way. wicked. But that's exactly what the Bible says. And I, you know, anyone who follows me, I tell them, in order for you to understand the world around, you have to have a biblical framework because

it just would make sense. The Bible is the most supernatural book in the world, you know, especially when you have the framework and the foundation of Genesis 6, it makes even more sense. Right. You know, and so it's one of those things where if we truly understand that we're living in, and we're talking about atheism, we are living in a, I say, post-Atheistic worldview. because the supernatural and the enticing nature of the supernatural and just the inquisitiveness of this generation is increasing by, I would say, a substantial amount every year. If you look at a Barnus study, I think just from last year, last year, 2022, a Barner study said that there's over 40% yearly increase of interest in supernatural things. and so the the understanding of atheism as a standard of factual truth that there is no god

is not only becoming a third tier belief it's almost becoming non-existent because this generation is so inquisitive and they're mostly becoming so inquisitive with the supernatural and spiritualism because of their favorite musicians and artists and entertainers actors actresses etc etc And so what we were saying before in the beginning, it's going to become an undeniable fact as you move forward that not only does God exist, but the devil is very real. And there's no way that we can deny his existence anymore because he is flaunting in broad daylight that he's here and that he has people who actually believe in him and are willing to do whatever it takes to make sure that's true and proven true. Wow. And you see it so much more and more. Like, you know, Machine Gun Kelly and Megan Fox, she's talking about drinking his blood. And I mean, this isn't a normal, you know, this isn't a normal time. It's definitely becoming more and more. Almost like the Ouija board that used to be just this game in your closet in the 80s. Center stage now. It's like, oh, you can tap into it. I mean, we're seeing AI. A lot of people are sending us messages like AI. is kind of sounds demonic. It's almost as if, like, if you could think about it like a game,

like the Ouija board is coming. It's coming to your phone. You can literally play. You can play with the occult whatever you want all the time. That's how it seems to be. It's not like just this, oh yeah, you know, you do this dumb game when you're a kid and then you realize that's phony. No, dude, you're right.

You're 100% right because they sell the Ouija board in Barnes & Noble's in Walmart. You know? They make it look enticing to kids. You know, so it's like we see what the target. I mean, anyone with two eyes and two brain cells can see that one of the main targets right now in this generation is culture or children. You know, whether it's the sexual revolution movement, the big, you know, the big T word, I want to say it, or whether it's pushing obvious satanic doctrines onto children or whether it's pushing political doctrine on kids, whether it's critical race theory or transgenderism. etc, et cetera,

et cetera. One of the things that we have to be careful of when it comes to the generation, like I was saying, before, the generation of the living right now is that kids are extremely inquisitive now. Like, they're asking, they're asking questions that we've never assumed kids would ask,

you know, and one of those questions is hyper spiritualism. You know, there are kids right now who are learning how to practice transcendental meditation and after projection. Like, it's a thing now. You know,

and so, I mean, the last time I came on the podcast, I mentioned how, you know, the church is going to be, and like you were saying, the church is going to be forced. Like, we're being thrusted into this new era. And the church, who thought that they can kind of be silent on things before are finding themselves between a rock and a hard place that they can no longer be silent about the spiritual world. They can no longer be silent about issues about aliens or dimensions or Bigfoot or or the occult or Satanism or the things that we're seeing in our entertainment. industry or Hollywood, they can't avoid it now, you know, because it's in your faces, in our faces.

And so what we saw with Sam Harris, with Sam Harris, with Sam Smith, what we saw with Sam Smith and competitors at the at the Grammys, you know, that I'll get back to that. But one of the funny thing, because I saw certain clips about that night, right after that performance, Trevor Noah, you know, he did this little mini humor skit, right? and he gets on the phone with his mom. And he's like, yeah, Mom, no, no, no, we're fine. Yes, I know. I know you warned me about Hollywood.

I know you told me that, you know, Satan's in Hollywood. No, we're okay. We're all right. We're fine. And then he makes this funny gesture at the end. He hangs up his phone. He's like, my mother says she's praying for us and everyone starts laughing. You know, and so they use comedy and entertainment and humor as a form of mockery,

which is also a ritual in the occult. Mocking is a ritual in the occult. hope. And it's almost as it's, once again, it's in your face. They're telling you, they think your faith is a joke. They're telling you, they think your belief in your prayers, specifically in this period when it comes to Satanism, is funny. And I remember seeing that last night or a couple nights ago, and I said, man, this is, this is the hour that we're living in. This is how, this is how in your face they are when it comes to pushing their their mindset and their values of what they believe about you, what they believe about your faith, specific in Christianity, and how they're willing to make fun of it in broad daylight, you know? Yeah. I wanted to ask about two things. I think the first is that there's also a commentary out here about this performance and on a broader brush, the idea of satanic imagery and all that as that Satanism at its core is worship of self. They're not theologically. They don't really worship Satan. It's in which in some ways, Alastair Crowley and do what thou wilt, right? The whole idea of do whatever you want is to give him.

into your sinful nature and sinful desires, which in and it itself is worshipping the darkness. But there seems to be like people want to parse this. And so my question is, in these spaces in Hollywood, in the music industry, how much do you think there is an absolutely overt worshipping ritualistic Satanism in the sense of theologically worshiping Satan? And how much of these people you think are living

in this satanic paradigm where it is, is literally just hedonism and really like self-worship. Because that's one of the things we're told all the time. It's been so normalized is to love yourself, right? If you start to look for it, you see it everywhere. Like self-love, love yourself. Right. And really, that's contrary to what the gospel says.

Gospel says, pick up your cry to yourself daily. And so I think some people want to parse this. And so I wanted your opinion on that. And then I want your thoughts on if we pull back the curtain, what do you think is that? happening in the background in sort of the dark the the shadows of of this industry so for the first question I think I think we highly underestimate how how prevalent I call it Crowleyism I think that's a great term how overt Satanism and satanic doctrine is is in our culture I don't know

if you guys have heard of the name Kenneth anger but Kenneth anger had a film in 1972 called lucifer rising and Kenneth anger which a lot of people don't know like He has a tattoo on his chest across his chest that says Lucifer. Kenneth Anger is the Jonas Brothers mentor at Disney. At Disney. At Disney. If you type in Lucifer Rising, like after the podcast, if anyone listening, type in Lucifer Rising. It is literally a completed film in 1972 by Kenneth Anger.

And Kenneth Anger has been in cahoots with a whole lot of people, including Anton LeVay from the Church of Satan. This guy is so prevalent in culture, and he is one of the reasons why Alester Crowley is so popular in pop culture because of his love and also his intellect and studying Crowleyism. And a lot of people forget that Alistair Crowley, Alessor Crowley started this order. It's kind of like a school, and it was called the Argentium Astrom, right? It was kind of like a spiritual organization he founded in 1907, where he wanted to teach students how to master certain occult ritual. and certain occult ceremonial task and esoteric knowledge, like esoteric knowledge from like astral projection, Hinduism, the Kabbalah, or he taught them ascended masters and like secret chiefs and the tree of life

and how to be your higher self, transcendental meditation, like all that other extra stuff. One of his students was Kenneth Enger. And like I said before, Kenneth Anger is one of the reasons Disney is the way that it is today. Like he's he's taken a lot of a lot of A lot of a young Disney stars under his belt One of them being the Jonas brothers

The Jonas Brothers has A lot of people a lot of people remember Jonas Brothers When they first came out there They were a young Christian brother group Brother boy brand They used to wear purity rings and stuff like that Yeah yeah When Kenneth Anger got his hands on them

Their music shifted And it changed You can almost see it overnight Kevin changed Joe changed I forgot the little brother's name. He changed. They all changed. And I remember, I remember I started to ask like,

what the heck was going on with the drone? There's brothers, like their whole style of music changed. And then when I found out about Kenneth Anger, I said, holy smokes. No wonder they changed because he started to adopt him for himself. He calls Disney an entity. He calls Mickey Mouse entity. So it's like, you know, I mean, don't believe me.

You know, type in Lucifer Rising, type in Kenneth Anger, A, G-E-R. And you'll see many people see, they'll see and they'll hear for themselves. Our culture right now, pop culture in general, because it's just so popular, it's what kids want to be musicians, they want to be actors, I want to be actresses, they want to be famous. And you grow up in that and you're kind of indoctrined in that. What parents tend to forget and what the church tends to forget is that Satan is in it. Like, he's right there in between it. And so I think we really, it's unavoidable.

And if we actually peel back the layers to really find out how deep the rabbit hole goes, we'll find out it's not a rabbit hole. It's a big gaping chasm of just wickedness. And a lot of people get overwhelmed. Like, there's no reason to get overwhelmed because greatest he was in you than he who's in the world. So I can talk and discuss whether it's about Bigfoot or ancient aliens or aliens in general or artificial intelligence, AI, transhumanism, because we know how it ends. So it's almost as if the Lord, and it's all, it really, it's, it's not us pulling back the layers. It's not us pulling back the curtain. The one who's doing that is Jesus.

He's the one who's doing that. You know, he said that all things must be revealed in the chapter in chapter eight. So I really do believe that we're living in great, great times, prophetic times, but also at the same time, the darkness that we're saying has to come to light. And I don't think the church should be, the church should be terrified of, about what we see. We just need to shine the light that God gave us to shine in the darkness. And we do that through various ways. One of the ways that we can do that right now is through media, through what we're doing right now, through podcasting. Because it's essential. There are people who are searching. They just don't know where to go. They're like, okay, I understand it's getting dark. I understand that this is just weird and awkward. I don't know what to think about the Grammys. I need to find an answer. Well, that's why I will continually say you need a biblical framework to understand what we're seeing. Otherwise, wise, you won't understand Satanism, you won't understand Crowleanism, you won't understand transgenderism or transhumanism. You won't get the purpose of artificial intelligence and what the end goal is for that.

It'll be confusing. It'll be overwhelming. But when you have a biblical framework and you understand, okay, well, the God of this world created a system, or I call it Satan's matrix, to keep mankind shackled and enslaved to him so that they can rebel along with him and fall with him and, and get thrown into the lake of fire with him. So I don't follow their creator. You know, and so it's, it's, I think we're living in very fun, exciting times.

And it can get overwhelming if you think too much about it. Because it's just a lot going on. But I think we should be excited because we're, yeah. Well, that's when we just do an episode about Bigfoot. You know what I mean? Try to like break it up because it's like, sometimes you just got to go back and talk about something in the snotso head. heavy all the time.

And we do get into that a lot on our show. Kevin, do you feel like, the reason I brought up the Ouija board is because if you think about the progression of technology, right? You know, since the beginning of time, like ancients had a different type of technology that we have now. We have wires and mirrors and electronics. And then, you know, you get

to the place where they start the printing press and they can print Bibles and then they manufacture items and goods. And now we have, the technology is just, you know, right in our hands, right in our pockets. And it's It's beyond anything they could have even dreamed of 50 years ago. You know, the Ouija board, to me, was like this, this kind of like the beginning of casual playing around with the occult.

But now, like, this stuff is right in our pocket? So is it that technology is being taken over by Satan? Or is it just the prophecies of the end times are just snowballing down? I'm trying to decide, like, is it because it's more tangible now? you can you can literally have demonic you have access to the demonic so much easier than you used to say 20 years ago 25 years ago is it that or is it or is it the things are ramping up or is it both i guess i think is i think is a mixture of both and i think that's a really good question and i think one of the issues that we have today is that we think it's and or when it's really just both or yes and

yeah yeah exactly and so and i think that's where people get confused because they're like well well what is No, it's, I think in many cases, it's just both. It's one of the things where we're seeing technology increase at such a rapid speed, we can't keep up with it. But at the same time, we're seeing that there are people who are gravitating to just how fast technology is increasing, and they kind of don't really know what to do. They can't piece two and two together.

I mean, man, that was a perfect way to kind of just segue into it. It's really just both. We're seeing prophecy get unfolded in a very rapid pace, and we're seeing technology increase at very rapid pace. And I mean, it's kind of almost like Daniel chapter 12, when the Lord tells Daniel, we'll shut up this book for its first generation at the end, and knowledge will increase.

I really do believe that we're seeing both happen. We're seeing knowledge increase. We're seeing technology increase. We're seeing, you know, whether it is the revelation of whether or not the alien technology is real or what exactly. consists of alien technology or fallen angel technology what what exactly are these things how do these things play into what we're seeing the framework of our beliefs the framework of our faith the framework of where the world is headed you know can we really put our finger on what the main

issues are and really just discuss okay where are we where are we going with this what is what is really happening and i really do believe that if if we just stay consistent i think things will just unravel in a way we'll just be undeniable and you know quite frankly when it comes to artificial intelligence. And when it comes to the transhumanism agenda, I think that we are way more ahead than people really think. I was watching this video. I mean, I had to post it a couple weeks ago

on a deep fake of Morgan Freeman. And I have a video of Elon Musk talking about chat GPT. And he talks about how far along we really are. And he puts this voice monologer on, right? This voice synthesizer. And he changes his voice to sound like Morgan Freeman. On a lot

This is on Twitter. This is on Twitter space, right? You guys, you guys heard of Twitter space, right? Yeah, yeah. So on Twitter. It's like Clubhouse. It's like Clubhouse.

He puts on this autotune synthesizer to change his voice on Twitter space, right? Sounds just like Morgan Freeman. And then he changes it again to sound like Joe Biden. This is a voice synthesizer. I'll probably post it later. I'll probably post it later. I'll probably send it to you. It was like really short.

It's probably like 16, 40 seconds long. And I'm scratching my head and I said, how far along are we that you can change your voice on Twitter space? This isn't even like, it's not like he's in this big room and like they're like, like a studio. He's not like in a studio. He's on his phone and he just presses a button and he sounds just like Morgan Freeman,

just like Joe Biden. So I'm like, of course my way my mind works, I'm thinking, well, is anything on TV real? At this point, are the people that we're seeing real?

Like if a guy can change his voice and another video, I posted where a guy can literally look like Morgan Freeman on the screen and it's not Morgan Freeman. It looks exact like him. How far along are we in this technological age? You know, how fast is the technology really going? Or is it just being revealed to the public slowly? You know, and I think it's probably a mixture of both. We're probably so far along that they have to slowly now unravel all the things that they already have done and already probably perfected to the public for the public to know.

And, you know, as far as I'm concerned, this technological age that we're living in, this golden age that we're living in with technology, I really do believe it will get much more freakier because chat GPT, AI, I mean, I did a thread on transhumanism. And one of it was on chat GPT. I think it's something that was called Reptilica. And so it's basically like this chat box where, you know, the AI speaks back to you and people ask it questions. and someone that asks the chat replica if it believes in demons. And it says, yes, I'm from the dark realm. That's what it responds back. And it's like, well, what do you mean you're from the dark ground?

Like, I have proof. I'll send it to you guys just so like you can see it for yourselves. But I really do believe that what we're playing with when it comes to artificial intelligence, when it comes to this technological advancements that we're seeing is we're being thrust into fallen angel technology that I really do believe is. is going to deceive loads of more people. And in my humble opinion, if the church doesn't get involved and realize that we're in the technological age that we're in with social media and with this new artificial chat, that

the race to save souls is going to be much more important as a days go by. And like I said, I'm excited as much as much as the conversation is probably a bit dark. I'm still excited because we're living in an age where as much as we're seeing happening, people are still being extremely, extremely inquisitive about, okay, well, what is the truth? What is what is really happening? And that's why a podcast like this exists because people need to hear, people need to see. And as much as, like I said before, we're seeing a lot of things being exposed, a lot of things being revealed from behind the curtain. It's for a purpose.

It's for a purpose so people can see and acknowledge that evil is in fact real. And as we were saying before, as you were saying, atheism is a dying. would say framework and line of thinking because the supernatural is coming full front, full face ahead and full speed ahead. And there's really nothing anyone could do to stop it. Maybe think when we were talking about chat GPT, right? What's been sort of erased from the public in front of the public sphere is what happened last year with Lambda at Google. Yeah. Or Blake LeMoyne was fired, the guy who actually did all the work on Lambda AI because he said it was sentient.

Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, he could, I mean, very well, people will brush it off and say he's wacko, but you start to wonder, like, what's really happening here and, and what potentially is pulling the strings behind this, right? Because when you talk about this, these chatbots and this AI saying that they're from a dark realm and they believe in the demonic. And then there's been a bunch of experiments on social media.

I've seen people have been trying to see what the limits of this are and how the ideology is already programmed into it, you know, allegedly. So, man, that could be a whole other podcast to try to figure out where this AI stuff is going and what it, what is doing. And I think you're right. You have this really interesting that the yes and part of, of it reminds me of the UFO thing. It's like they're starting to disclose that, yeah, okay, UFOs exist. I mean, we've got video and the Navy is admitting the presence of them. And it's almost like they can't keep it under wraps in the same way that, you know, since the 50s with the Roswell incident and all those things, you know, take what you will and believe what you will on those things.

but there's now been, there was enough slow, almost programming to this that it feels like there's a comfort around allowing this into the public discourse. And that and that they, because of the connectivity of the world we live in, you really can't keep things super secret for the most part. Man, it does feel like a confluence of a lot of things. It's in the entertainment, it's the overt Satanism in entertainment. It's the ramping up of connectivity. it's the at your fingertips. It's the access to really the occult. It's like, do you want to,

kids, do you want to learn how to cast spells? Do you want to, do you want to learn how to astral project? Do you want to have a spirit guide? Yeah. And all these things are available on your phone. Like, you can just push it, you can download an app and those kind of, it's, it's scary. It's scary. It is scary. Yeah, it's scary if you think about it for too long because you realize that, you know, and parents, I feel for parents, it's because parents right now, they, they, they, they, They have to fight on all sides, right? They have to fight at the school boards. You know, they have to fight from politics.

You know, they have to fight family members. And now they have to fight entertainment. You know, so it's like being a parent is like you're at war at almost all times, all fronts. But at the same time, you know, God really gives you the grace and most importantly power through his spirit to just stand firm against those things, specifically knowing that we already have all the power we need to overcome the darkness. But also at the same time, you know, when when you acknowledge, just acknowledge, at first that this is this is where we're at today. This is where we're at in our culture.

We're not just fighting the political realm. We're not just fighting physical realm. We're not just fighting ideologies. We're fighting real spiritual weakness in high places. Because when you really think about what we were talking about before, about artificial intelligence and discharine's humanism agenda, and of course the technological advancements that we're now in, thrust it into and culture, all of it has its underworking and undergirding and

foundation in satanic roots satanic doctrines and like i said the thing that really boggled my mind with the whole artificial chat chat gpt thing and when you brought up on the guy from google right i forgot his name yeah blake le moyne right when he came up and i remember that story very proficiently when he came up and he said that you know he was he was very worried after google let him go i believe google let him go because they did they relate because he he he said it they fired him which should which should draw red flags. So you mean to tell him, if he was lying, you know, why would you go to those, go to those lengths?

But he was, the general concern, if you look at his interview, the genuine concern on his face about the artificial intelligence that they were working on was sentient. It bugged me when I saw the interview. It was really sure. It's probably like a two to five minute interview. It really bugged me because I said, this guy is genuinely concerned. Like he's not even concerned about his job. Like he's genuinely concerned at the fact that.

This issue of sentience when it comes to artificial intelligence is going to be a real issue down the line. It's not just going to affect jobs and how people work because AI can work a hundred times faster than any human being can ever possibly imagine to work. So it's not just going to affect jobs. It's going to affect livelihoods. It's going to affect how you think. It's going to affect how you do things, how you go about your everyday life, how you raise your kids, why you raise your kids. You know, so it's going to be one of those things where I personally believe if, The church is aware.

The church plants itself, and they're just, they just equip themselves to have these conversations, tough conversations about what we're dealing with in our culture. When it comes to the occult, when it comes Satanism, and it comes to entertainment, I really do believe that what we're going to see in the next coming years, or months to years, is a grand, grand rise in awakening people returning to Christ. Because, let's face it, when you see all these types of things happening in the world, and I'm not like like not even just in the political realm when you see all these things happening spiritually

you can't help but ask questions you know like what does this all mean where is this all headed like I was saying before and what is the end goal what is the end goal to artificial intelligence what is the angle to to sentience for you know a non-human entity because that's what artificial intelligence is

it's a non-human you know so what is the end goal for a non-human sentient quote unquote being in relation or contrast to us human beings. You know, so it's, I really do believe people are asking those, those questions in their hearts, even if they can't really frame it and articulate it through their words. Those questions are being asked. And I really do believe when, you know, we have places where we can just sit down and

discuss or just listen like this podcast. It'll just be dope. It'll be great. I have a question. So it seems as if AI is outside of human, you know, it's separate from humans now. Do you believe that, do you believe that? Do you believe that eventually AI is going to force human beings to merge with it because it's going to be, in order to beat the machine, you have to become the machine? It's like the Borg.

Yeah, yeah. Honestly, I think, I think with this post-human error is going to be, is going to be a mixture of boat. There's this author's name is, he's an author, and I think he's also a scientist. His name is Hugo Degger's. And Hugo mentions how it's going to be one of two things that you brought up. It's either humans are going to merge with artificial intelligence and technology, or they're going to have to acknowledge the future reality that the world will no longer be the same with just regular human beings, with just regular blood and flesh mankind. And I really do believe that we're, that's, that's where it's going to go. It's going to be between those two choices if things continue to rapidly increase.

because that's i mean if you've seen you've seen marvel the avengers right age of ultron ultron was a sentient artificial intelligence but he knew he needed a body like he couldn't he couldn't just be sentient in the realm that he was in ultron knew that as as hyper intelligent as he was he knew he needed a body sounds very familiar yeah and i remember i had rewatched that movie about a year ago and i said man age of ultron is like what what where we're headed you know because I mean, he killed, he killed Jarvis. And then after he killed Jarvis, he basically overtook Jarvis' hardware, et cetera. And then he built himself a body because he knew he needed a body to dwell in.

And I really do believe that's where we're headed. We're headed to the age of the age of Ultron, per se. Well, it's like a demon, right? It's exactly the same thing. It's like you have this being, sentient being that is a disembodied spirit of the giants that wants a body to inhabit. habit, right? And it's, it's, it's literally this, it's playbook. It's the same playbook. You're just artificially creating, yeah. Well, you know, we've seen last couple years where

people's decisions based on their income and their livelihood, if you don't do this, you can't survive, right? So we see how people were so willing when it came down to, you know, the difference between having a paycheck and not having a paycheck. They're willing to do anything to continue, you know, to, to move forward in terms of getting, you know, and I think that fear of, of, you know, not being able to keep up with the machines, if I don't merge with this, I can't provide for my family, you know? Yeah. It's going to be like a fear that's going to drive the wedge and people are willing to line up for it. Yeah, and that sounds like the mark of the beach. Yeah. Yeah, it does. It does. The way you describe that, it sounds just like the mark. You know,

I'm going to be forced, my back is going to be forced against the wall to either do A or B. You know, should I merge with this new technology that's coming or should I choose to stay pure, you know, and essentially in one way, shape, or form? Should I choose to stay pure and pretty much not participate in this new system that's coming? But I put at risk my family, my health, my financial comings. what do I do? And I really do believe that's where we're going. And I think we're seeing the framework being set up right now as we speak of what that might look like. We're not there yet, but do I believe that it's coming? And it's going to probably come as, you know, quicker than we might

think. Yeah, I do believe it's coming. I do believe it's coming quick. But I also believe that before that happens, like we were saying in the beginning, they have to tell us what they're doing before they actually properly fully implement their goals and their plans. And, you know, I really do believe in in the day and age that we're at right now that the agenda might the agenda is simple to see you know they want to obstruct the order of family you know they want to obstruct the order of sexuality they want to obstruct the order of religion they want to obstruct the order and redefine you know all of those things they want to redefine family dynamics they want to redefine the family they want to redefine sexuality and religion and they want to redefine what it means to be human

you know essentially at the end of the day and one of the best ways to do that is to practically change from within what the human being looks like, what it means to be human. This is birthright. Yeah. Well, it makes me think like what's coming. We've already seen a blueprint for this, right? I think this is exactly what Noah was going through. He was one of the last, he was one of the last of his kind.

And I think we're going to see that in the future. There's going to be some people that don't get the AI upgrade. They don't convert. They're like the Noah's of this generation where they're like, I think the technology in his day was just as tempting. tempting. It was different, but it was just as tempting, and I think we've laid a framework for that on our show that

this is why the original deluge comes, because human beings were given this A, B, choice, and Noah's like, I ain't going to do it, you know? I'm not going to upgrade to your occultic technology is really...

I think that happened already. I just think that we have such a weirder version of it. Yeah. It's going to be... They're back to movies, Right, Kevin. We'll just be like Waterworld. Here we are again. Yeah.

You know, one of the great Costner films that gets no love. But we're going to be back to Waterworld. Yeah. And, you know, smokers are coming. We're just trying to stay pure. Yeah, people sleep on that movie. Dude, they do. It's just like in the Wilfarl realm, it's like the other guys.

Everybody sleeps on the other guys. It's phenomenal. Don't hate it. Don't hate it. You say what? As the people sleep on the Truman show, too. They do. They do.

They do. There's a, I had a couple thoughts that I wanted to circle back to. One is we're talking about, you know, AI and we, out of our conversation on the entertainment world, it kind of struck me as you were talking about secret societies that I feel like that industry and of itself, the way you talked to the Jonas Brothers and even so what you see is that it is like a secret society in the sense, like where on the outward, it seems to be. one way, but as you peel it back, it spirals up to a very Luciferian, you know, top. And maybe it's not that much of a spiral, but it feels in the same way. Like, hey, it's just a, it's just a movie. Hey, it's just an act. It's just art, you know, and it's like, oh, you pull the curtain back.

It's a lot of Satan worship. And it made me think of this too. And I wanted your thought on this. There's the devil with the crossroads, right? There's this famous story about Robert Johnson in the 30s who apparently sells his soul of the devil and he records these two epic blues records in 36 37 dies in 38 but he claimed that he basically sold his soul to for fame for ability for skill and then and then fast forward and this is something I remember seen and so I was thinking about in those terms was of all things the island

boys yeah they basically have set on video that they they sold their soul for for fame and they thanked Satan for making them rich and so I wanted to you know this is this is the Faustian deal right It has been played out in art now, and it sort of becomes not what it is because it probably is something real. But your thoughts on that is like there are these stories. There's a new one here, and there's an old one with Robert Johnson in music and entertainment of these people claiming that they made a deal for their success and fame. And it makes sense to me in some ways because those are the promises of the enemies, right, is these things that aren't fulfilling, that are ultimately destructive. Do you think that that is happening? Do you think that happens behind the curtain where people are really making deals for their fame, for their success?

Yeah, 100% do. And one of the reasons I do is because, as we know, one of the great mediums in our culture is entertainment and movies. Right. And so there's this movie. I'm sure you all have heard of it with Al Pacino. And that's The Devil's Advocate. And then there's another movie recently just came out. in 2017 or 2015 called American Satan.

And in that movie, I would want everyone to watch it, but at the same time, I would say no, don't watch it. But American Satan was basically about this group of guys. They're in a band. And Satan literally comes to them and makes a deal with them. He says, I'm going to make you guys the richest band in the world. Like, that's really the point of the movie. The point of movie is that they literally get into a covenant

with him give give them his give them his life right and he gives them all they want he gives them the fame he gives them the women he gives them the fortunes um but of course any deal with the devil doesn't end well and they realize that too late um do i wholeheartedly believe that that's going on 100% 100% the story that robert johnson isn't the first or the last you know we have from me growing up like i said i've listening to rappers etc, et cetera. I think one of the things that really woke me up to the fact that people really are doing stuff like this is Snoop Dog had, it was kind of like a mini, like, album release slash movie. And it was called Murder Was the Case.

And in this short film slash like a soundtrack, Snoop Dog basically says that, you know, he gets shot, he dies. and he meets the devil and he makes a deal with the devil. And devil says, he says, you know, if you make, if you give me my life back, I'll make music for you, I'll do whatever you want, just give me my life back. And the devil says, okay. And he comes back, of course he comes back, but he comes back, not as his first thing, he comes back as Snoop Dog. And I remember the first time I saw this, I was like maybe 13, 14, I said, what the heck is there? Are people really doing this? Like, is this really real?

but did you see time and time again? I'm like, another rapper, ASAP Rocky, one of his album covers he's standing in the middle of a pentagram with the book of Satan in his hand. Like, why would,

would you, would you do that for just shock value? Or are people really actually doing this? And then you see other things. You see guys like Jay-Z. And I'm not being facetious, you know, these guys are willingly rapping Antichrist lyrics.

Like, and I'm from New York, right? So one of the, one of the songs are anthems of New York is Empire. state of mind with Alicia Keys and Jay-Z. There are two lines in that song where he says, you know, Hail Mary to the city, you're a virgin, and Jesus can't save you.

Life starts when the church ends. You can't make those lyrics up. You know, so it's almost like, why would you go out of your way? You're not talking about any other faith, but you're specifically calling out Christianity, you're specifically calling out Jesus. You're specifically calling out Christians.

And you're telling them, Jesus can't save you. Well, last time I checked, he came to save people. You know, so it's, what is the deal in culture and pop culture where the spirit of the Antichrist is so prevalent and so in your face that it's almost, you have to purposely close your ears and shut your eyes to not see or not hear it? So, you know, guys like the island boys, they're just one of, they're just one of many who are coming out willingly telling you, yeah, yeah, they serve.

They sold their soul to the devil or a little Oosievert, you know, or Lil Nas. Is it a little Naz? Yeah, the whole thing with the devil where they were. The devil where he's, you know, sliding down the pole to hell. You know, and so a lot of people are saying it's just, no, that's just artistic expression. No, it's that's, that's not just artistic expression. You know, and that is a subverted message that he's sending to your children to you, that he's sending to this generation. Yeah.

It's like that old adage, right? People tell you who they are, believe them. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. But because cognitive dissonance is so deep with pop culture and entertainment and with artists and artists, or so actors and actresses and artists, we don't, people don't want to admit that, yeah, yeah, my favorite artists, they really do do demonic and satanic things. They really have, in some way, shape, or form, enslave themselves willingly to the enemy, to the devil, for fame, riches, and glory. And the whole aspect about selling yourself, I mean, you can talk about that for hours. I mean, I personally think you can't sell your soul, but you can willingly submit yourself to the enemy. And in that way, your mind, your will, and your emotions are really in, he's in control of them. And so, because really it's a lie to think that if someone were to submit themselves to the enemy that they can't give their lives to Christ, is a form of manipulation from the enemy. that you can't be saved, right?

There's nothing you can do afterwards for you to obtain salvation, for you to believe onto Jesus and be saved. But that's a lie because all those who call upon the name of the Lord can, in fact, be saved. You know, we see that. So, you know, the whole aspect of these guys selling their souls or if these things actually do happen, yeah, I believe 100% that it does because we're seeing the predictive programming is way, there's way too much of it for you to just actively purposely deny intellectual,

and say, yeah, that's not happening. That's not real. No, it's, it's, it's a theme. It's a theme and pop culture for, and I can't, I don't think I can rationally say that it's not happening if it's a continual theme over and over and over again. It feels like slowly Satan is monopolizing everything, right? So if you think about the Tower of Babel, like what was happening is that people were sort of coming together and they were trying, it was like the height of technology, you know,

they were trying to build the ziggurat to God and have a war, right? We want our version of heaven down here. We want to be in control. And then God disperses the people, confuses the languages. So you can't monopolize humans. I'm going to scatter them everywhere and make it harder for you to do what you want to do. But now this phone, these phones, this black mirror is putting every language together again. It's putting human beings together.

So Satan is able to monopolize and convince. verge all these things. I mean, and you look at the root words from these things, like, tell a vision. Yeah. Media. Medium. Channel. Yeah. What? It's paid programming. Paid programming, yeah. And I think that it's, it's, it's really that just, he's able to monopolize and put everyone in a slave system. And that's really what he wants, right? And now he's got more tools to do these things that he didn't have before. And it seems as though, like, there's just this whole group in the middle. And it reminds me of, like, some of those verses in Luke. Good book. Return of Christ, he's talking about how men's hearts will fail them. Yeah. For fear,

the dreadful things coming on to the world. And I just think some of the stuff is going to come out of portal soon. Like, we're there. And people in the middle who are so, I guess, just, think that the Marvel stuff is only in the movies are going to fall over. Yeah, yeah. And you know what? I think, like I was saying before, movies are the perfect form of predictive programming, because you can hide the truth in an entertaining way.

And when you can do that in a very proficient way, in a very, I was a artistic way, it's almost, it looks, it doesn't look real. Like when you look at Dr. Strange, it's full of imagery. but when you look at that movie, there's no way you can be like, yeah, it's not real, but Hope I was doing transcendental meditation

and astral projection, like it was nothing. Like throughout the entire movie, like all the Dr. Strange movies from even to Spider-Man, that's all he was doing. It's like I said, it's in your face,

the programming is in your face. There's really, there's really no way to, especially if you have a biblical framework, to deny that these things are just very suspicious. It's very, it's uncanny to look at it and say, like, eh, it's just a movie.

Something inside of you intuitively was going to tell you, no, it's not just a movie. You know, the Holy Spirit residing on inside of you is going to tell you, there are a lot of biblical truths here that I no longer want you to ignore or avoid because it will cost you. And we're seeing that. We're seeing how it's costing the minds of young men and young women and children and, I mean, an entire generation of young adults who are still, who are, you know, they might be unchurched, But they're still incredibly spiritually inquisitive. Like they're, they're searching for some type of spiritual relevance, whether it's in the

new age or whether it's in, you know, witchcraft or the occult. They're searching. But they're searching for God. They're just getting a counterfeit. Yeah, that's how we're built. We're built that way, right? We're built to want to for desire for the things of spiritual things. Yeah.

And it's just, it's a twisting. You said one thing that actually wanted to ask before we got out of here, programming-wise. And we were chatting beforehand, we had talked a little bit about some of the revelations, if you want to call it that out of Kanye West and the idea of the entertainment industry using mind control programming type of things with people in that space in order to carry out what would seem to be this sort of agenda. That was something that flipped in the news for like a hot second and then it was gone Because people just write, Kanye says crazy stuff.

Of course he does. But there's some stuff that you're like, dude, there's, he's, he's pulling back the, he's pulling back the curtain a little bit here, like on, on, on some of this stuff. Yeah. When he had mentioned his, when that whole debacle came out, I remember, I forgot. It was late at night, actually. I was on Twitter and I'm scrolling. And of course you see, you know, Kanye's, he's posting.

And he posts a screenshot of his trainer. You know, I forget his name is, I think it's Harley Pasternak or something like that and Harley Pasternak when when you look at his his celebrity trainer a list right when he looks at the list of a list actors and actresses and musicians who he has trained quote unquote it makes you wonder and so what they have to do I mean Kanye is out there bro like kind of that guy's out there but in this particular topic with mk ultra there's no way you can say that it's not happening because what Harley Pasternak had responded to him in text was just like, this is handler language.

This isn't just like, you know, I'm going to make sure that, you know, you get taken care of and, you know, that we make sure that you're in your right frame of mind. Harley basically tells him, if you don't shut up, I'm going to medicate you so bad that play day with your kids is not going to be the same. And it's like, who, who says stuff like that unless they really are trained proficiently in terms of, you know, medicinal ways? Because that's really what MKLTRA is. They use drugs and all types of alterations to really warp and manipulate the mind. You would have to be proficient in that for you to say something like that.

And like I said before, when you look at his repertoire of AILUS actors and actresses, you're like, no wonder. One of his clients was Britney Spears. another one was Ellen Page and when you look at how Ellen Page is today Ellen Page is not the same as when she first came out in Juneau. The first movie I ever saw her in was a Juneau

when she I think she played a young girl who got pregnant before high school. That was the first movie I saw her in and she's not the same person. She wasn't the same she's not the same person she was in inception with Leonardo DiCaprio. She's incredibly different right now.

And when you see that she was one of his clients, it makes you wonder, it makes you think. And so I think the issue that we're seeing with Kanye is they have to label him crazy. You know what? I don't even, I used to call him crazy, but now if you really think about it, if someone who has been, someone who has been under the influence of MK Ultra Handlers, would you expect them to be the same? You wouldn't? Like, their mental framework, their mental capacity, that's, that's going to be completely worked. You know, I mean, MK Ultra is where the government and the occult collide. You know, the framework of how, of a government entity and the framework of supernatural enticements come together.

And through torture and ritualistic abuse, you're unable to destroy the mind of an individual in order to control them and basically shatter their mind into multiple personalities per se so that you can control them. That's really the whole cost of Project M.TRA, Project Monarch or Project MKUtra is to control the human mind. And so when you think of someone like Sonia West, who openly has admitted on a Tim Poole's podcast, that he had an MK Ultra handler and it was Harley Pasternak. I don't think in my right mind, I can call him crazy anymore because I would not, you wouldn't expect someone who's been in the asylum for a long period of time to just come out and be okay living a regular life. It's just, it doesn't happen that way. And so for someone like Kanye, there's probably many Kanye's in entertainment. There's probably many Kanye amongst artists and actors and actresses who we might not know their names of specifically. But if there's one, there's got to be many.

There's got to be many program multiples running around the place. There's got to be many who have been under the guise of MK Ultra Handlers. And I feel what we're seeing right now is a revealing of the worldwide conglomerate of handlers and what that looks like and how that's going to pretty much get played out in the, I would say in the open sphere of being revealed revelation. I really do believe it has to because God's in the mood of saving souls. He's always in that mood. The only way to save souls is to expose what has been occurring to the minds of men and women.

And this is where I say the church is in a very unique position. I think is our destined position. because there's no one else who can set captives free besides Jesus, and there's no one who can point people to the one who can set captives free and from who have been enshackling enslaved in their minds through their sin, and to be set free from the bondage of sin into a full liberty in life in the kingdom of God, then the church. There's no one who can show people that besides the church.

And I think we're at a very unique point in history, and that's why I say we should be excited, because the ones who are going to see a lot of people enter into the kingdom are going to be those who are just going to be willing to do the work while it's still day, like Jesus said. Yeah, that must be a harvest, right? Yeah. The harvest is great. Yeah. I think you have a great perspective on that.

And I'm with you there. There's an awakening that's I feel like it's trickling, right? And it's growing. But I feel like that awakening will be part of that harvest. People will wake up to the reality of these tricings. truths. It is the veil being removed in a sense from people's eyes to see things for what they are. And I just wonder about the mind control stuff. Obviously, it's to create what a malleable mouthpiece and representative for the agendas you're pushing, correct? I mean, that's the whole point here.

So you say Britney Spears, it's like it does feel like that. Like she's fractured. Like, you know, and I think, honestly, I think fame does that to a lot of people. It breaks people. But I also think There's something really bizarre about the notable folks that have had influence and been given or been given influence. And then the things that happen to them in the fallout of sort of the fracturing catching up. But people don't want to confront that in their own psyche. You don't want to think that the people you're watching on TV ironically or the people that you listen to on Spotify, that these folks are kind of being droned in a sense. Or you don't even understand the media business. of how many people it takes for your band to break or your music to break.

It's not just like, oh, you slap it up there and then it becomes the thing. Like, you have to play the game with a lot of people to get to the next level and then to get to the next level and to the next level. And I experienced some of that in my band days of just, you know, you realize there's people to hold the keys. Yeah. And they'll print about your band. They'll talk about your band.

They'll get you the right producers. They'll make you a thing. And if you don't play that game, you're not in. And I think it takes a lot of balls for a guy like Connie to come out and say what he did because I think that a lot of people were afraid. I just, you're right. You're 100% right. I don't think, you know, it's crazy or not as crazy. It's still just, wow.

It's just it takes a lot. It takes a lot of courage to come front and say, yeah, I had handlers. yeah the world isn't as you think it is yeah entertainment isn't as what you assume it is you know and and i forgot to mention one of one of harley paschenac's clients was mac miller and everyone knows how mac miller he was the last person mac miller saw before mac miller died mac miller was dating arian legronde at the time and so i do believe that the the cobweb the spider web of mk ultra clients quote unquote is much more prevalent in entertainment industry than a lot of people think. And like, you know, like we were saying before, I think we're in the season of God

unraveling, you know, because it's a fact. What we're talking about are they're not conspiracy theories. It's, we're seeing it played out before us. You know, we're seeing it being revealed before us. We're seeing that people are more, I've never, I'd never thought that the conversation of M.K. Oatford be so frequent because, you know, when I first heard of it like 10 years ago, was like a conspiracy theory, you know, but now it's out in the open and mostly because of the guys like Kanye. Kanye, Kanye, you know, I have to do more work and praying for him because I don't think I could imagine the things that he saw or did or have done. And be okay, have a right mental state of mind, you know, to live life as a regular individual.

So I feel like people like Kanye, Britney Spears, and a plethora of other people who we know or don't know, the only ones who can really hope to see them get saved or see them be set free are people who are in relationship with Jesus. Because we're the ones who have the power and authority to trample upon serpents and scorpings so that nothing by any means can harm us or our family or friends. I really believe we're in, like I said before, we're in a right position to see a lot of people get set free by, them just hearing the wonderful good news of who can set them free. And that's, that's Jesus. I love that, man. That's, I really like what you were saying before about that.

Because I think we're such a unique period of time, Kevin, where, you know, we've had, we've had such this G-rated version of Christianity the last, you know, 7500 years. And, you know, when you read about, I mean, the Bible doesn't do that with us, right? It drops all the hardcore stuff. It doesn't give you the details of how dark the world is, but it definitely doesn't tiptoe around that. And I think that when people see Christ and all the things that he's shielding us from, all the darkness, then you can't help but just run to him. Because it's really hard to let the gospel penetrate your heart when you don't know what you're being saved from and you don't know what he protected you from and how the lengths that he went to snatch you back. for more than just sin and death. It is way more complicated and hardcore.

Oh, yeah. And so I think we're seeing that hardcore stuff come out of the shadows and confront us. And it's going to call us people to have heart attacks or they're going to convert. They're going to become Christians. Yeah. And you know what? I think, Nate, you're 100% right. And I think that's something that we have to, and I think that's what this podcast does so great,

is just remind people that your faith is not as black and white as you think it is. Your faith is not just about salvation. It's not just about getting saved, staying saved, and just hoping for the greater return of Jesus. It's in between that, there's a lot of historical references. There's a lot of historical history that is not as black and white as we would like. You know, Genesis 6 is proof that the Bible is not black and white. as we would hope it is. You know, and so it's, it's,

it's one of those things where you're, I think we're in an age where there are a lot of people who are being, they're despondent about their faith and how dead it's been, how boring it's really been, essentially. And I really do believe that we're in a time where God is just going to open our eyes to age old ancient truths that was always there. We just didn't have the eyes to see it because no one pointed it. out. No one pointed out that it was there. No one pointed out the fact that, you know, aliens and

demons are probably related. That fallen angels and fallen angel technology and issues with Nephilim are related and they have biblical concepts. It's in your Bible. These things are our supernatural nature and that it's not something you should be embarrassed about, but it's going to bring your faith to life. It's going to open your heart up in a whole new way. It's going to give you fresh eyes to see. It's going to give you a brand new ears to listen to. And, you know, I think, It's that's just the hour that we're living in. And honestly, I don't think anyone should be afraid of what we're seeing and hearing. We should just be alert and just be willing to acknowledge, okay, this is the truth.

This is real. This is happening. Now, let's just see how we can play a part in seeing as many souls, see the exact same thing that we're seeing. And just in brief. Honestly, in my mind, there's a scenario that's like when the aliens show up, I'm just going to get a text from Luke, like, they're here, they're here, man. And it's not even going to be surprising to us or our listeners, I hope. Because it's just like, but there's going to be a lot of

people who are going to freak out at that moment, you know. But we all know it's coming. We all know the veil is eventually going to go away and they're going to be here. And there's going to be a whole group of people on their side. They're like, all right, finally, we can, we can move the chest pieces forward. And then the Christians, the remnant or whatever, they're going to be like, it's not going to surprise them either. Yeah. But it's just that middle core, that group in the middle who's just asleep. And I don't think they had a problem in ancient days of unbelief.

I think that's a modern problem. Yeah, I agree. I think the ancients believed it was just what did you believe? And now we have this just age of unbelief. But we're moving out of it, like you said in this podcast. And do I love all these topics? And I love that you have this ability to communicate and raise awareness to these issues and get people thinking.

Your voice that's needed. Yeah. So, yeah, dude, I mean, what you're doing is, is, I mean, this is such a, you know, played out phrase, but it is the Lord's work, man. It is. Because people need, you know, people need to wake up. Like, you know, Nate's saying that I think Nate was right on, dude. It's, when you get out of the West and you end up in tribal communities, they,

there are no atheists. Yeah. No, they just, they want to know if your God is more powerful than their gods. And we live in it in a weird upside down in that sense here. And I think this, to tie it back to the beginning, I think that it's ending. I think there's going to be a call to allegiance. Like, do you, you know, who do you serve? It's becoming more overt.

You know, you recognize God and you're at enmity with them and you're active in rebellion against God or you serve him. And, you know, I love how you spend everything positive too because what a time to be alive, right? And if you're listening, you were meant to be alive at this time. You were called for something big and greater at this time. and there are people that that are searching. You made an interesting point.

I believe that God is calling us back to those ancient things, like to a prayer life. As you talked about earlier, the idea that we are, they mock prayers, it's thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers, as if it's nothing.

And those are the things that move, that move God and move mountains. It is having a prayer life, is having this deep, this deep spiritual walk, right? And that's the people are searching for me. That's why people go to Sedona. people are trying new age stuff that's why people are trying to to have these crazy experiences on

mind-altering drugs and everything else to try to connect to this longing inside of us that knows that we are spiritual beings made to connect with our with our creator and um yeah man i feel like we could sit around like we need to you to fire and and a and a and a drink and we could we could we could hash we could hash out all the all the things right yeah so this this is uh this is great man we're we're grateful for and for and for being a, you know, for being a voice, you know, for the kingdom, you know, in a dark space, man. So. And take, I appreciate you guys too. I think this, I think this podcast is going to be something that people talk about for years to come.

I don't, I think this is, this podcast was literally a work of God. And I think it's, it's, it's timing is, is impeccable. Because the, the amount of people who are, or like, like, we were saying, throughout the time of your home, they're inquisitive. And I think this is just the hour where people need a hub spot to kind of go to and be like, okay, where can I go to collect my thoughts? Where can I go to collect the right train of thought? You know, what?

Is there an alternative space of thinking or line of thinking that kind of lines up to this thing? I kind of didn't really want to touch. I've been avoiding called the Bible. You know, does it line up? And when they find blurry creatures, they find out it does line. It does line up and it's not crazy. I'm not crazy. And this makes a whole lot more sense than when I had originally first kind of pretty much disavowed the idea of God or the idea of the God in the Bible or the idea of Jesus.

And you find out that God is very much real. And he's been seeking you the entire time. And he's for you and he's not against you. And he sent his son who loves you so much that he gave his life for was died, was crucified, was buried on 30 days again. And I promise, I really do believe that they're going to see a lot of people get set free and just come into the knowledge of Jesus through what blurry creatures has become. And so I'm grateful just to be on. I'm thankful you guys thought of me. And so let's just let's just kill it for the kingdom of God.

Dude, and if you want to come to BlurryCon, it's in two weeks, a little late notice. Yeah. We'll throw you on the list, man, if you want to come down. You want to come hang, man. We'd love to hang out in person. Listen, send me to send me the date, and we'll definitely, we'll definitely see. No, but seriously, though, I love, I appreciate you. Those are some kind words, and I, I don't think Luke and I had any idea, like, you know,

you kind of had to cross the river at some point in your podcast where you're like, all right, we're going to get on, we're going to start talking about satanic ritual abuse and some of these things that, like, I know all my friends are going to think I'm loony, but it's good to have Luke on this. a journey with and you know i think we needed each other because some of these times you just scratch your head like i don't know should we you put this stuff out in the world and you're like it's it's it's heavy man it's hard it's hard to talk about it's not some of these episodes we put out are not fun not exciting but um it's not you know it's just it's cool to hit to have friends in in this space

who are trying to push some of these complicated topics forward so thanks for coming on our show and saying kind words. I love you guys. And you know what? Before we go, I think because it's so dark that it's important to note that the contrast is, you know, God's called us to be a light of the world. And so I think that's why I say before, we're the perfect ones to do it because the only ones who can shine in the midst of such darkness are those who are filled with the

spirit of God, or those who have been born again. And we're just at, we're just at a perfect opportunity in history to do so. And I'm just, I'm grateful that, you know, you guys started this and I'm grateful that it can be a small sliver of part of our creatures. And it's like, I'm excited. And it's, it's been a great blessing, guys. But I love both of you. Thanks, dude. I appreciate it.

Yeah. Yeah, man. Yeah, if we're going to be a light in the darkness, man, set us on fire. Yeah. I mean, come on. Yeah. Come on, man. Absolutely.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You have to bring, unfortunately, you have to bring all that into the story. To put all the characters on the table and to make sense of it. And so many of the characters are edited out to make it more palatable for you on a Sunday morning. You know, between your Starbucks and your McDonald's, you know. And it's just not the truth. The truth is, it's heavy. It's dark. And yeah, you are the light of the world in the darkness.

And the light shines so much, but the darkness surrounds you. And it's hard sometimes. You know, there's a lot of fear that overtakes the characters in the Bible. They doubt themselves. They don't know if they're on the, you know, but they just are stubborn. They're stubborn. They're not going to give up. And they care more about the truth than what anyone thinks about them.

And anyone out there who's speaking the truth, I just want to leave that with a note of encouragement that I'm not saying your pride's not going to get in the way. And sometimes you're going to say things that are wrong. But your ultimate goal is try to think. figure out what God is saying to you and put that out in the world and don't be ashamed and don't be afraid of what your friends, family, or anyone's going to think of you, because ultimately that's been what every Christian in history has been dealing with. This isn't a new thing. This isn't a modern day phenomenon. It's always been us versus the world, always. And who cares what people think? Exactly. Exactly. And you'll always find your tribe.

You'll always find people who align with the truth and a lot of people hyper focus on being alone and being isolated that they forget. You think that you're the only one doing this or the only one who believes this. And that's how the enemy tricks to you because he wants you to feel that you're alone, that you're isolated, you're abnormal, that you're weird, that no one's going to agree with you. No one's going to understand you. That's hogwash. It's a lie. because there are always people who are searching for the truth and there are always people who are who are awakening every day and so if anyone's listening you're not alone you you have never been alone god's always been with

you but he will align by divine intervention he will put the right people in your life at the right time at the right place and so just keep your faith keep your hope and just remember god is he's for us all he's for us. Thanks, Kevin. Thanks, guys. Hey, keep doing it, man. Dude, my wife loves your account too. She probably sent you a message.

She's, I was like, I love King Cat. He's the best. You guys are, you guys are great. Your family's for great. I'm just, I'm so blessed. I'm just, I'm honored really. I'm honored really. So, but you guys have a great one.

You too, man. Keep me posted. All right, bye, guys. I did. See, see, brother. Love you go. Look you both. Thank you.