Blurry Creatures - EP: 155 The Gray Alien Threat with Tim Alberino

Episode Date: February 28, 2023

The incomparable Tim Alberino returns to the show as we come off the biggest month of UFO news in modern history. Unprecedented mainstream media coverage of Chinese spy balloons and UFOs, flooded the internet and airwaves, as both the Canadian and American governments claim to have shot down unidentified flying objects in their restricted airspace. For such a time as this, we turn to Tim Alberino for his take on what is really happening in the skies above us. Fresh off of an appearance on the War Room with Steve Bannon, among other mainstream outlets, Tim breaks down what is most likely being shot down, why the sudden coverage by MSM, and how this may or may not relate to a narrative around Project Blue Beam. Ultimately, Tim shares how the prevailing talking points of a historic month of UFO coverage will fail to prepare people for the actual threat, the gray aliens. Tune in now. support the show! blurrycreatures.com/members Guest: timothyalberino.com Intro song: "Blindsight" Habitat Canada & Dreamkid83 contact: [e-mail] blurrycreatures.com Socials instagram.com/blurrycreatures facebook.com/blurrycreatures twitter.com/blurrycreatures Music Kyle Monroe: tinytaperoom.com Aaron Green: https://www.instagram.com/aaronkgreen/ Mastering: ironwingstudios.com Outro Song: TimeCop1983: timecop1983.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome back to Plurier Creatures. We're coming off a high of the weekend. We just had our first event and it went amazing. We had Tony Merkel there, Doug Van Dorn, Laura Sanger, Tim Alberino and Derek Olson. It was an incredible day. So many people volunteered to make the event. Shout out to Conduit Church and everyone in Franklin. the camera operators,

Brandon Weaver and the Iron Wing team. Can't say thank you enough to everyone to help make this idea that Luke and I had a reality. And it just was amazing. You guys sold out the event and we had even had a Dolory in there. It was just a special weekend. And we can't say thank you enough.

And Tim was there and some of the stuff we talked about in this week's episode at the conference. If you still want to get a ticket, you can go to blurrycreatures.com and you can buy a ticket and stream. the whole thing. It was a whole day event and the crew at Ironwing worked really hard

with multiple camera angles and they spent three days there making sure that everyone would have just an amazing experience at home. So if you want to support them, go to blurrier creatures.com and also you want to get tickets to our trip with Tim going to Peru, end of June. Go to blurrycreatures.com slash members become a member and we'll send you a link to buy tickets. There are still a few tickets left, so we'll see you soon. All right. So welcome back to Blurray Creatures. Tim Albarino. We got your name right. Don't worry about it. Yes. You bet on the ship. Timothy, yes. Now we're friends so we can we can we can say

Tim, but yeah, we have a lot to talk about on this episode. Sir Timothy is how I want you to oh man. Refer me for now on. Is it a good night? I think I've gained that level of prestige. Pre-rolled a little little fun fact about Tim Albarino. you got married in the woods in a cloak. Don't call it a cape cloak. I mean, it kind of fit. Titles? Sir.

This seems very fitting, sir. I did. I got married in the woods when I was, so, geez, I don't remember. Hopefully my wife doesn't listen to this. I got, I was young. I got married in the woods in secret with my wife. And yes, I was wearing a cloak, a gray cloak that a friend of mine, Jenny Thompson bought me at a medieval fair.

I was actually with her when she bought it for me. I was about to move to Peru at the time, and she thought it would be a good idea to buy me a medieval cloak to take into the Amazon, which seemed absurd at the time. But I've got to tell you, that cloak was excellent for keeping mosquitoes off me, which is very important when you're in the Amazon. So I actually ended up wearing it quite a bit.

So I was this freakish gringo with dreadlocks walking around. around the jungle with a cloak in a machete. It's a true story. Did it come with like a, you could buy one, you get like a turkey leg or, you know, or something. I think we did eat a turkey leg out there. But, you know, as bizarre as it sounds, I mean, that, that if you could, if you could go back in time and, and see me in the Amazon, that's, that's the spectacle that you would have. I was a gangly, tall fellow, young guy walking around in a gray cloak with a brown belt strapped around my waist with machete and a hatchet.

And dreadlocks. And tall and tall rubber black boots. Dude, this is quite the picture. Have you been to medieval times, Tim? You ever been there? No, I've been to several medieval festivals. Those are better. But never, you're talking about like the actual, like, where you like, it's like a banquet

it and then they joust this stuff. No, I have never been to medieval times, although I'm sure I would enjoy it very much. It's fake jousting, so I don't know how much you'd enjoy it. Yeah, it's funny because I made a joke about that during the lockdowns. I was like, if everything's closed, the medieval times is closed and there's something wrong, they need to be open during the lockdowns. During the plague? Yeah, it seems pretty, pretty good, right?

They even close their doors, so something's wrong. That's not what we're here for, though, Tim. Well, let me add in before we get this image of me in the jungle. You have to insert a pipe in my mouth, too, to complete the picture. We're done. All right. That's it. That's it.

Hang it in the Louvre. This is incredible. Some artists listening to this is going to draw, you're going to make a painting. If you do send it to me, please. I do need that, actually. I do need that picture. I think we all need one. If we get three copies, hand numbered.

Yeah. But, yeah, so lots of people send us messages. They're like, you got to bring Tim on. You got to talk about all the weird stuff. going on we got trains blowing up we got Chinese spy balloons we got UFO reports things being shot down very weird time and I know you've been on a lot of shows so thanks for coming back on blurry creatures and talking to us about what's going on my grandma was turning turning a hundred in the middle of all this so I have not as

up to date as I want to be I was on airplanes the last several days flying to and from but welcome back Tim before we get into this though we have have a little announcement to make, right? We do. Speaking of Peru. We're doing a blurry expedition. That's right. To Kusko, Peru. Let's go. So, cloaks required. We're going to get clothes. Clokes are required. Cloaks are required. Cloaks and pipes. Yes. Dreadlocks and rubber boots are optional. No, but this is exciting, Tim. This is our, this will be our very first blurry adventure. No one better to do it with than the man that spent years in Peru. You know, on the show, show, we've talked about a ton of things that exist in this place. And you live there. In fact,

I believe three year children were born there. So this is, this is like a second home for you. And this is a megalithic playground. Tell us a little about what, you know, at this point, what the trip's going to look like and, you know, and some details surrounding that. Yeah. Well, it's going to be a five-day event, six days, really, if you count the first day that everybody's arriving. It's taking place in Kusko, but we're going to obviously, Saq Saq Sawhama, in my opinion, the most impressive megalithic construction on planet Earth. It is one of the, one of the sites that I am highly confident was actually constructed by giants. And I'll talk about why I think that. And I don't think that all of these sites were constructed by giants, by the way, but I do believe that

Saksai Waman was for very particular reasons. So I will be elucidating those reasons live in Saksai Waman with this group who's going to be going with you guys. So we're going to be going Saksai Waman. We're going to be going to seeing the amazing stonework around the old city of Kusko. We're going to be going to Ojantai Tombo, where there is the most exquisite cyclopean architecture on planet Earth is at Ojantai Tombo. And then we're going to be going to Machu Picchu. And Machu Picchu is absolutely breathtaking. And the foundations of Machu Picchu are, of course, megalithic. and I will be guiding this group, me and my good friend Andres Adazme.

Andres Adazme is a Chilean guy. He speaks English. He's in my films, my new ones, and he's been on my team, on my expeditions in Peru. And Andres is an archaeo-astronomer and an architect. An archaeologist who dates things based on the way that they are, configured and aligned with celestial phenomena. And Andres is brilliant. He's brilliant. Andres lives in Kusko and he's just full of knowledge about lost civilizations, megaliths and so forth.

So me and Andres make a really, really good team. This is really, I don't want to boast, but this is the best, this is the best Peru-Cusco megalith trip you're going to get anywhere. Let's go. And I can say that confidently because. of Andres because of how good of a team me and Andres are together and obviously because you guys are coming too. So it's going to be a lot of fun. We had so much too. All the things that we know, we're just, that's right. We're going to get those two to play the Peruvian flute and lure

the Peruvian bigs fight out of the woods too as well. That's, but no, on a serious note, this is super exciting. We've never done anything like this. We get to go with our good friend, Tim Albarino, and tap in as you say, the wealth of not. knowledge there. So this is really, if we're talking about once in a lifetime type trips, this has to go on the list, alongside going to see some of the other wonders of the world. Peru is there. And Nate and I are super pumped. We're going to, Nate, we're going to offer this up to our members first. So first crack. This is limited, this is limited size. We're not talking like, there's not 400 folks coming to Peru with us. This is a sign up and get in while you can

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and, you know, do whatever, smoke cigars, whatever. You know, there's a lot of, there's a lot of space in here for people getting to know each other. So I know that, you know, you guys have a really tight-knit community. You guys have, your members are very responsive because I think they want to get to know each other and really great people. So this is an environment. Listen, I've done this a few times. I've done this in Peru. I've done it in Sardinia.

And I have lifelong friends from both of those trips because it's just, an opportunity you get to know like-minded people you get really adventurous really cool people on these trips and so it's it's going to be awesome awesome we're excited so there's three three megalithic sites if you want to get tickets early just become a member we're going to announce exactly when tickets are going to go on sale we're just going to send that out to members first so it's going to be a 24-hour pre-sailed all members and we appreciate you tim for letting us do that for members just another perk for membership here on blurred creatures absolutely and I don't know if we said this, I don't know if we said this, but the trip is from the 26th to the 30th of June.

And it's really the 25th because people need to be arriving on that day. It's right after the Inti-Rimy Festival in Kusko. It's a great, great time to be in Peru. It's going to be absolutely beautiful. The weather's going to be awesome. And so it's perfect timing. And, you know, and Nate got a, he's already got a speed already. He says it's perfect for hiking.

So it's going to, the sites are going to, the sites are going to, the sites are, are going to be real out there, right? Yeah, we will. So you're going to be wearing a cloak and a speedo. You look like Nacho Libre. It's going to be phenomenal. We will be, we will have it a good time. Maybe a live podcast, even on the megalis.

And so eloquently, Tim said, you will be elucidating the trip. Is that what you said? Alucidating, yes. That sounds like a term for Bigfoot, but whatever the heck that means. We'll find out. We're going to be doing it, though. Whatever it is, whatever that is, that's what we're going to be doing. Tim is going to be doing it.

it's uh we're going to some we're going to some spots too that people don't normally go to there's some information that that andres lives in kusko and he's that's what he does he studies the megaliths and so there's some interesting things that we're going to be talking about and analyzing that have to do with some of andres's research it's going to be really great i'm super excited and uh there's no way you cannot go to kusko you can't go to saxiwaman you can't walk around this the historic region of Kusco, the streets of Kusko, where you have the megalithic foundations of the Inca Palis, you can't go to Ojantai Tombo and, of course, Machu Picchu without having your mind blown. I mean, just the beauty, just the majesty of Machu Picchu alone will blow your mind,

let alone all the other, the megaliths and the other sites. So, yeah, I love it. This is a bucket list trip. Yeah, it is. And if you haven't gotten the juice from that speech right there, I don't know what's going to give you the juice. So thanks, Tim. Thanks for letting this be like a member's first buy tickets to this. If you haven't become a member yet of the show, go over to blurrycrucruits.com slash members become a member. And we will let you know exactly when tickets are going to go on sale

so you can be ready to go. But Tim, today we're talking about all the stuff and the blurry skies around. What's going on, Tim? Give us the 4-1-1. This is a special episode because I think we wanted to get Tim on because we've been pretty inundated with questions. I know you have.

You were just on Steve Bannon's show talking about what's happening right now. Nate was hold up with his grandma for 100th, but in that time, allegedly, we know he had a spy balloon, but allegedly there have been UFOs, unidentified flying objects that were downed by our fighter jets over Michigan. Supposedly Justin Trudeau and his crew of Mounties shot one down over Canada, which seems a bit fantastical. But all you have to do is type in UFO on Google. I did this as we were sitting here. And all these articles, New York Times, New York Post, NBC News, The Hill, those are just the top hits. And it's not surprising those ones are the top hits.

But it's Biden has no evidence. The three latest identified objects were spy balloons. White House weighs in on Biden addressing UFOs. Spy balloons, UFOs. What else is up there? Confusion about UFOs. This is in the news. And people have questions.

We wanted to bring you on. I want to talk to you about your thoughts. on what's happening here because we talked a lot, you know, over the course of our episodes on the topic of abductions of, you know, what perhaps is the, is disclosure and when that's coming and what that'll look like and how that ties into biblical prophecy and what we see towards the end. And things seem to be happening in real time all of a sudden, even just this week. So I wanted to get your thoughts on this, be in the blurry verse on on what's going on. And, you know, as we get through this, there's questions I have too, just off the top about, you know,

about this. I want to start with your take on what's happening and what's sort of being released into MSM because my gut reaction and maybe yours is the same is that if MSM, mainstream media, is talking about something and telling you something's happening, you need to believe the other, the opposite usually, because it's usually not the case. But this is such a weird one. I just, I don't know what to make of it. Well, let's lay the foundation because obviously we're talking about these alleged UFOs, the Chinese spy balloon that we know was a spy balloon that was shot down over the on the coast of the Carolinas. Let's lay the foundation. Let's set the stage for what's been going on in the background before this stuff emerged in the news. So we've had frequent train

derailments. We've had food processing plants burning to the ground. We've had water treatment facilities hacked and poisoned. We've had attacks on our electrical grid in various parts of the country. We've had our airlines. Our airlines were shut down for an entire day, which was completely unprecedented, never happened before in history, except for maybe on 9-11. That was last month, I believe. We have right now unfolding a toxic chemical Chernobyl in East Palestine, Ohio. and now we have surveillance craft hovering over some of our most sensitive military installations, at least in the first case with the Chinese spy balloon. So what I want people to understand is that these quote-unquote UFO incidents are not happening in a vacuum.

They're not isolated events. None of this is coincidental. So that's the background before we start talking about what these objects might be. that's what's been going on in the background. And let's also understand that the Pentagon is not in the habit of publicizing threats that it cannot deal with. Okay? Right. So we have all of that stuff going on in the background.

And we have the Pentagon telling us that they're shooting these objects down out of the sky. So I think that when we take the entirety of this scenario into account, what we have are, foreign actors or, in some cases, domestic terrorists that are sabotaging America's energy grid, our rail system, our food production plants, and all the other things I was mentioning, and engaging in espionage, overt espionage at the same time. I think that is the most logical conclusion based on all of the things, this confluence events that are occurring right now and have been occurring in the last few months. So we, again, we need to view these alleged UFOs as a part of a continuation of these other events rather than view them in isolation, like as if the government

all of a sudden wants us to start talking about UFOs. There's only one reason why the government wants to talk about UFOs right now, and that is because the Pentagon is using the public's interest in UFOs as a diversion to try and obfuscate these other things that are going on and the spycraft activity in our airspace by foreign actors. And this is, as I said on the Bannon's program the other day, this is very bizarre because it's usually the other way around. Usually the government uses high altitude balloons and drones and swamp gas and birds.

They usually cite those things to cover up legitimate UFO activity. Now we see the opposite. Now the government is using the public's fascination with UFOs as a distractionary tactic. So do I believe that what we're seeing being shot down in the airspace over the United States, over the United States. Are those legitimate UFOs? Well, I can't know anything for sure. I don't, I've never, I haven't seen the debris of what they shot down outside of that first balloon. But my sense is, no, you're not going to shoot down a legitimate UFO with a sidewinder missile. That's what I was my thought initially, right? Is that we, we have this TikTok video. That's what I keep

going back to that we know is legit and this thing moves. And the physics around it are things that we can't do and it can accelerate in ways that we can't we can't do and we can't lock onto it yet all the sudden our sidewinder missiles from the gulf war can take down this sort of technology that really has defied physics on video and then we brought someone on the show naval intel ex-naval intelligence officer who was on the nimitz right after who verified not only that was that real but but spoke to the to the pilots and to the pilots themselves this is all very real how yeah my thought is how all the sudden are we shooting these things down when we can't even lock on them because of the way they move

and into the water and out of the water on what we'd assume to be verified, real stuff, released by the Navy. Now, I'm going to go with, I think, the Tick-Tax stuff is real, just based on the accounts, the people we've had on the show, and then also the fact it's been released, they couldn't really keep it under wraps.

Now, it's weird to me, right? If we go down the timeline, January 28th, we see that there are three sidings of Chinese surveillance booms in airspace. February 4th, we shoot it down. We shoot it down. February 10th, there's a UFO over Alaska. We shoot it down.

February 11th. Norad shoots down a second unidentified object over Canada. February 12th. We shoot down a third one. The U.S. does over like Huron. You know, from the 1950s in Roswell, whatever we want to believe about Roswell, the only way that we allegedly have been able to access any of this stuff

is by crashing. We don't shoot it down. And, you know, we talk about kinetic war with you a lot, about how there's going to be a kinetic war at the end. that man and the dragon and his armies will have a kinetic war with God. That's something we talked about extensively in the show. But to this point, our kinetic abilities don't match with what we believe to be the actual technology, and then all of a sudden it happens.

It just seems very, very fishy. And then also the fact, like you said, I think it's very interesting, a very important point is that with all the cloak and dagger, there has been around this, and then a nothing burger with the special counsel in Congress, all of a sudden there's we're talking about it in the open and we can shoot it down and it feels very project blue beam to me let's talk about the the nimitz incident is a good example of an actual legitimate UFO activity the nimitz incident which was reported in 2017 by the new york times who blew the whistle on that story they it was uh you know a uh f-18 hornet jet captured

this UFO on their gun camera right so they locked onto it actually they didn't didn't just see it. They actually were able to lock onto this object for a limited period of time. And so they were able to track it. They knew how fast it was going, it was going at incredible speeds. And it was making erratic movements. And that was a legitimate UFO, displaying the characteristics that are typical of legitimate UFOs. And by the way, as I've said many, many times, let's not think of this as a tick-tack shape. I want people to understand that this was a this was a saucer. It's clear as day that what they were tracking was a saucer

and that that saucer was flying in the configuration described by Bob Lazar. So the Nimitz incident was a real event. They were tracking a real UFO that was displaying the incredible capabilities of those advanced aerospace vehicles. And as you said, as you mentioned, those vehicles are not only arrows. they don't only have aerospace capabilities, which means our atmosphere and outer space. They also have underwater capabilities, so they're trans medium vehicles. And the reason why when you look at that tick-tack, when you look at the video of that,

of that the Nimitz incident, Tick-Tac object, you have to understand that what you're seeing around it, you're seeing an energy field and you're seeing a, you're seeing gravity wave distortion around the craft, exactly as described. again, by Bob Lazar. So when these craft are energized, they have an energy field around them, and they're distorting the spacetime continuum around them. They're distorting the fabric of space time. And so you get some, you get the contours become distorted. The contours are not a clean outline of a saucer. It's sort of a blurry, misshapen outline. And that was, that was a saucer. Okay, so compare that to what we're shooting out of the sky with Sidewinder missiles, old technology, really, and not only one, but multiple occasions that we're shooting these things out of the sky.

What I think is happening here. And this is, my perspective is evolving a little bit on this. In the beginning, I thought, well, these are just more Chinese firecraft. And then I thought, well, maybe China and Russia combined. and then I thought maybe China, Russia, and Iran. And I think that that very well could be the case at some of what we're encountering in our airspace right now are China, Russia, and Iran, the combination,

or one of those three. However, there's another possibility that is exceedingly embarrassing for the Biden administration. I know this isn't a political show, but let's do a little bit of geopolitics mixed with exopolitics here because that's what's happening in the news right now those two things are kind of crossing wires. I think that there is a possibility that what we're at,

what we've actually shot down, at least a few of these objects, are not spycraft. And they're certainly not alien craft. They are benign observational balloons and drones from, that belong to perhaps NGOs or belong to corporations or even belong to the United States government. In other words, we are shooting down our own stuff.

And are we doing it knowingly? Are we doing it knowingly? Or are we doing it in this frenzy to the Biden administration trying to regain the initiative and gain control of the narrative after the fiasco with the China spy balloon? Because the optics of that were terrible for the administration. And public opinion, it was public opinion was that we, should have shot that thing down immediately. The vast majority of Americans on all political spectrums saw that as an affront to the American people, that Chinese spy balloon and wanted it

to be taken down immediately. And Biden waited. He waited and he waited to shoot it down when it was over the ocean. You can speculate why he did that or whether or not that was a wise decision. But the optics were terrible and public opinion was against that decision. And so it's almost like in an effort to change the narrative and to show that, you know, he's actually a tough guy. They're going to go out and shoot down everything and anything now that's in our airspace. Knowingly or unknowingly, maybe shooting down balloons and drones that are benign. In other words, they're not spycraft. Now, I'm not 100% sure that that's true. It could be that plus legitimate spycraft from China, Russia, and Iran.

But like I said, the thing that was shot down over like Huron was a octagonal shaped something, right? And it had, and it was described as having cable, suspension cables. That's a balloon. That's a balloon. That's a balloon. So, okay, so now we understand that these things have been happening within the context of all this other sabotage happening in the United States. okay and and we also understand that there are legitimate UFO sightings and encounters and there are a lot of them i mean the air force and the navy routinely encounter legitimate

i keep using this word legitimate when i mean when i'm saying legitimate UFOs i think you guys understand your audience understands i'm talking about advanced aerial vehicles that are not manmade that do not belong to our military or any other military on the face of the earth rather these are anomalous vehicles that are, in my opinion, extraterrestrial origin, or were fabricated maybe inside of the earth, in an underground basis, non-human underground bases, and sometimes also what we see in our atmosphere are reverse-engineered hybrid advanced aerospace vehicles that belong to the United States military. So you have both of those things going on. Now, there's a very interesting development in this story that threw me for a loop. And that is that the Pentagon

briefed Congress the other day. I don't know if you guys saw that the Pentagon briefed Congress, finally briefed Congress about this stuff they're shooting out of the sky. I listened to two individuals who were in that briefing their thoughts in a press conference afterwards. One was Senator Kennedy. And the other one was Senator Holly, Josh Hawley. And Kennedy said something very interesting. He said that this is this. He said, we've known about this since 2017 and 2019.

And when he said that instantly, what he's referencing is the Nimitz incident. Because 2017 is when the New York Times broke the story. So he's referencing the Nimitz incident without saying it, Kennedy. Senator Kenny said, he said, we've been seeing this since 2017. So that indicated to me that the Pentagon briefed Congress, that the Pentagon told Congress that what they're encountering right now as it relates to these things that they're shooting down are anomalous aerospace vehicles. Because Kennedy is referencing, Senator Kennedy is referencing the Nimitz,

incident. So I get the feeling that the Pentagon is associating what Congress already knows about the Nimitz incident with what's going on with these balloons. I'm calling BS on that right now. I believe, and this is a terrible thing to say, I believe that the Pentagon is lying to Congress about this. I believe that the Pentagon is obfuscating from Congress what's really happening. Now, why do I that because then Josh Holly comes out and he talks to the press in the aftermath of this briefing. And what does he say? He says we're not getting any straight answers. None of what they're telling us makes any sense. And so I put those pieces together in my mind. I took, oh, by the way, Kennedy also said at the end of his discussion with the press, he said, lock your doors tonight. Yeah, I saw that. Okay. So,

So that's telling me that, again, that the Pentagon is confirming to me is briefing Congress about these objects that they're shooting down out of the sky in the context of the Nimitz type UFOs. But then Holly comes out and says, we're not getting any straight answers. None of this makes any sense. Why would Holly say that? This is why Holly would say that. Josh Holly knows that the, because they were briefed about the Nimitz incidents and other incidents that are related to that, or at least that are in that same. context, legitimate UFO activity. So Josh Holly is probably sitting there thinking, wait a minute, that object that you guys captured, that that object that we captured on that gunship camera

was moving at unimaginable speeds. There's no way we'd catch that thing, let alone shoot it down with a freaking sidewinder. Sidewinder missile. But now you're now you're associating that kind of anomalous activity with what you're blowing out of the sky. with, you know, a sidewinder missiles, that doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense. And so what am I supposed, what am I going to conclude hearing Senator Kennedy and Senator, Holly, what am I going to conclude? I'm going to conclude that the Pentagon is lying to Congress. And I think a lot of people don't know this. I mean, if you've been out to some rabbit holes in these, everything from JFK to Pearl Harbor to 9-11 to the Cuban Missile Crisis, this isn't a new thing.

You know, you can go back and research all those events and realize that there are oftentimes our own government is working against itself and distracting people and creating fake events and then trying to pass crazy laws or or do something else. It's it seems like there is this whole shadow government that's acting outside of, you know, even Congress most of the time. So, I mean, we don't really get into that a lot on our show, but I mean, I've been in a lot of those rabbit holes. and they do this all the time.

You know, they know, I don't think any Chinese spy balloon just floats across America and we don't know about it. Come on. You have to be, with the amount of technology we have, you have to be stupid to believe that. That they just, it can just float across. I don't think anything happens by accident in 2023. No, it doesn't. I mean, if you talk about something long enough, you start getting ads in your social media about that thing. And you tell me that we're not going to, this is what Tim, I think I have, I am trying to understand and contextualize with,

this is, okay, the spy balloon was here. We know that it was a huge moment of weakness for our administration. Why default to this? Because it feels bigger picture to me than just like we're trying to recover face because we got, you know, we got egg on our face from the Chinese because that we have a weak leader that didn't act accordingly. So now we're going to shoot down this. I mean, I see that how that's beneficial. But to jump from there to this UFO thing, when for, since Roswell, there's been denial about all of this. And of course, the 17, the Nimet stuff, right? Things have started to, it's the ships of the leaky.

Things are coming out of it. But while a sudden go full into it, where MSM is covering, MSM hasn't acknowledged anything before 2017 as legit. And now we have a whole week of, oh yeah, it feels weird. It's like there's this, there feels like a bigger, something, you know, and maybe because you, that's the way that we think in this thing is, There's, you know, we live in a realm that's very much, you know, physical and supernatural and spiritual, whatever you want to call it, we come from a biblical worldview.

When you're trying to contextualize all this and the things, conversations we've had in the past, and we're here now. And then all of a sudden this week, the media and the government are just saying, we're shooting down UFOs like it's talking about, you know, the Yankees are on a five-game win streak or whatever. It just seems so ho-hum. And it's this taboo topic. I can't, I'm trying to I want to believe the end game is this is part of the conditioning. This is part of all the conditioning. And that we're going to have, you know, we are leading up to disclosure. Because I've really started to think that this is, this feels like where things are going.

So I just wanted your take on that. I mean, do you think it's as simple as we're politically trying to save face? Or do you think this is, because it's weird that this is what they do. Like, you're not proving anything to anybody else by, by shooting down another balloon because it was there when you didn't shoot down the one before four times over. and then being very cloak and dagger about what it is and where it is and we can't we recover it. You know, it's bizarre. Well, the NORAD, I forget his name, the NORAD commander said that, you know, we can't rule out extra treasures or aliens. That sent the media into a frenzy.

But let's remember that the media gets its talking points from the CIA in large part, especially when it comes to stuff like this, national security threats. Media gets its talking points from the CIA. that's the first thing we need to understand. This is a very convenient excuse for the Pentagon, for the Pentagon to conflate the UFO topic with things floating around in the sky. So what, what they're doing, and it's, it's very, very clever. I think that this is a high-level sci-op. This is a high-level operation, psychological operation coming out of the Pentagon and perhaps even out of the NSA or even the CIA, to take the legitimate topic of UFOs, UAPs, right, that's been sort of entering into mainstream media,

especially through Tucker Carlson. And these individuals are, some of these individuals, these media personalities, are covering the topic in a very responsible way. And so this was a perfect opportunity to throw a wrench into all of that. Notice that they're saying, UFO and not UAP by the way.

So they're taking the term UF, which we all, when you say UAP, like we were talking about, I think on your show before, it could be anything. It could be lights in the sky. It could be strange atmospheric phenomena. It could be anything. But UFO is very, very specific in the zeitgeist of the 21st century. UFO is a flying saucer or a craft, anomalous craft that is at least, very possibly could be of extra-trestrial origin. That's the zeitgeist. And so they're taking

that terminology and they're throwing it at these objects that are just hovering 20,000 feet that they can blow this guy with sidewinder missile. So what they're doing is they're totally and utterly conflating the topic of UFOs. And they're doing it purposely so that people will roll their eyes and they'll stop thinking about advanced aerospace vehicles that could be extraterrestrial origin, and now we're thinking about whatever the heck, whatever junk is floating in the atmosphere, balloons, drones, whatever, that's UFOs. So I think that we're seeing a very, as I said, clever psychological operation, taking advantage of this situation with the optics, the bad optics that the Biden administration was dealing with, taking advantage to try and

remediate that and repair that and at the same time do some propagandizing and some conflating of the UFO subject. And it's working. I think it's working. I think it's having a great effect. So now when you hear the term UFO going forward when the media says UFO because they've used it so generously over the last week, so repeatedly, when you hear when you hear the term, UFO, it's now benign. It's benign. It could be anything. UFO, balloon, right? Drone. It could be anything. So they're stripping away from that terminology. They're stripping away the anomalous aspect in terms of the extraterrestrial potentiality that is associated with that word. And it's almost like putting that word to death at this point, because I think they're going to move on from here

with the UAP terminology. Watch, they're going to shift to the AP terminology when this dies down. And I think it's brilliant psychological operation, frankly. Just remember that the mainstream media, especially CNN, is not going to come out of the gates with UFO, UFO, UFO, and their kairons and their graphics coming out of their mouths unless it was approved by the CIA. And so we are witnessing a psychological operation. We have been under a psychological operation with COVID. Everybody knows that. That was a massive psychological operation.

We've been under an ongoing psychological operation as it pertains to the war in Ukraine. We were never told anything even resembling the truth about Ukraine in Russia. We were all led to believe that Ukraine was going to emerge victorious and that they were kicking Russia's butt when in reality the opposite was true always has been true and Russia is about to annihilate what's left of the Ukrainian forces and that's another that's another element of why all of this this distractionary tactic around UFO so keep all of those things in mind now I have not definitively said that I know what we're shooting what it is that we're shooting out of the sky, I've just given you a bunch of options and tried to give you the background, the context

for everything that's happening. But understand that the United States is under attack, as I said in the beginning of this conversation, that we're seeing all of these derailments, trained derailments. I think there was just another one yesterday. We're seeing all of these food processing plants burning to the ground and the chicken feed that seems to have been manipulated poison perhaps that's that's causing these chickens basically to be sterile not to be able to produce eggs we're seeing the shortages of eggs seeing by the way we're seeing the bird flu that's eliminating so much of our poultry right now the electric the attacks on our electrical grid please do not forget that unprecedented event that happened with the airlines being shut down

it only happened in my in recent memory at during 9-11 that's the only other time that we've had like a complete standstill, a stand down of aircraft activity in our airspace. We also saw a couple of days ago all the downs of all the websites and financial systems. There was a whole bunch of websites that went offline. So it wasn't just that. That's correct. And I'm glad you reminded me of that. That's correct.

So we're seeing hacking taking place of some of these financial institutions. And again, the biggest story right now, I would say the most. tragic thing happening right now is that toxic chemical spill in East Palestine, Ohio, which is devastating. I mean, I'm telling you, there's going to be so much cancer. There's going to be so much cancer, not just in the immediate area, but east of that, of that, that toxic plume and leaking into the groundwater. It's a cancer bomb. And I don't believe that that that was happenstance, that that thing just derailed because, you know, of a lack of maintenance on the railway there or something. I think it was sabotage. What we're seeing is sabotage and espionage.

And we are about to lose the campaign in Ukraine. And the don't let's not forget by the way that some of those Epstein files are supposed to be released soon. So we have, let's just say we have this crap storm that's surrounding the White House right now. And it's not going to get any better. And so what do administrations need when they are in this kind of a scenario? They need a distraction. That's what they need. They need a distraction. Now, the distraction isn't the chemical spill.

The distraction isn't the food plant burning to the ground. The distraction isn't the train derailments. No, they need a distraction from those things and from the fact that we're about to lose our campaign in Ukraine, that the- Russians are about to steamroll what's left of the Ukrainian armed forces. All of that is really, really bad, not just for the administration. It's bad for the globalists, and it's bad for the military industrial complex. So we need a distraction. That's always the case. The distraction buys the administration time to rewrite the narrative, to redirect the narrative, to

regain the initiative as it pertains to getting in front of some of these things. So I think just geopolitically, thinking in a geopolitical space, that's what we're looking at. This is a distractionary tactic. Now, if we switch, go ahead, go ahead. Well, I was going to say, so I mean, do you think all of these things are red herrings or do you think that there is, there might have been some actual UFO activity? Because say we do have some actual UFO activity, obviously you said in the episode, and we talked extensively about it, that, you know, nothing comes out by accident. They don't tell us things by accident. Most of the time, this stuff's covered up.

They don't want us to know about the UFO activity. Legitimate ones like the Nemitz episode. And we did do a bonus episode about that with an actual Navy chief who was on the plane that day. So if you haven't gotten that episode, go back and become a member, and you get that episode. And we did over an hour with him about what the pilots saw that day. But are there any legitimate UFO act? Is there anything mixed in? Because it seems like sometimes they, if something,

was like to happen like this. Wouldn't the government throw out a bunch of random stuff to try to cover it up so they could figure out how they want to spend the story? That's what I was, that was just what I was about to say. I was about to pivot from the geopolitical analysis to the exo political analysis, meaning let's now talk about these scenarios that are unfolding in the context of legitimate UFO activity. So I think there may be an element of that going on as well, not to say that what we're shooting out of the sky has anything to do with with actual UFOs. Rather, as you all are well aware, I believe that we are facing right now and have been for decades a grave threat from a particular faction of alien beings called the Grace.

And that threat is ongoing. It is an integration into human society with advanced alien human hybrids, as we've talked about in the past, the breeding program. It's also a continual, continual infraction of our airspace. These craft have, and whether it was the graze or not, legitimate UFOs,

have, in the past, deactivated our nuclear silos, have hovered above our secret military installations. I want you to think about that. Here in Montana, up near Great Falls, we had some years ago, decades ago, we had a saucer or a group of saucers. I can't remember the exact details actually deactivated a nuclear silo.

Deactivated it. Deactivated the warhead. Okay. Why could we shoot that down with a sidewinder missile? If we're going to shoot anything down with the sidewinder missile, wouldn't it be that craft that's hovering above one of our most sensitive facilities and turning it off? my God, you would think that we'd have a hundred jet scramble to take that thing down. Why didn't we?

Because we couldn't. We couldn't catch it. It probably disappeared and disappeared off the radar, took off at unbelievably, you know, at an incredible speed, such a velocity that we would have had no idea where it even went. So in other words, we didn't shoot that one down. And that wasn't the only incident. There's been incidents like that. This happens all the time. The Nimitz Incidences happen all the time constantly.

And so that is also in the background. And that is going to come to the foreground at some point in time. and I would like to, you know, with the remaining time, I would like to address one of the things I'm hearing, I'm sure you guys are hearing it the most from people in your audience and I'm certainly getting emails about it all the time. And this is actually a popular narrative now on Twitter, even on InfoWars. I saw a report today on InfoWars about this. I would like to talk about this idea that there's going to be a staged U.S. threat, a staged alien invasion.

Project Blue Beam, yeah. Project Blue Beam and maybe a holographic, because that's what Blue Beam really was, was a holographic alien invasion, a contrived alien invasion. And that is a topic that keeps getting conflated with everything else. It keeps getting thrown in there. And I think it's important to address that. Now, Tim, I really wanted to get in that.

glad you brought this up. I really wanted to get into this because I think you're right. A lot of what we're hearing is people talking about Project Blue Beam. I actually brought it up at the top of the episode because that is, you know, is a conspiracy theory. I can't stand that term, but it was a theory popularized in the 90s, the 80s, early 90s, and we're an 80s show, so it fits. But it's kind of risen up again.

And as you pointed out, that theory hypothesizes that there'll be this holographicizing, that there'll be this holographic, fake UFO invasion that will bring about a new world or one world government. And there's a lot of interesting quotes from people like Werner von Braun. And some of these less than savory characters that were a part of NASA and part of the military industrial complex

and part of some of these shadow projects that sort of give a lot of this credence. So I think this is important to address because this is getting interwoven into this. And I know I have a good idea. where you're going to go with this, but I think this is something needs to be discussed. Yeah, this is the topic that keeps coming across my desk

that I see on social media. And it's being propagated by, I would say that a lot of Christian people default to Project Blue Beam because in their minds, there are no such thing as extraterrestrials or aliens. And so all of this has to be some kind of

these have to be government craft. So if there's advanced aerospace vehicles flying around out there, they must belong to our government. They must be manmade. And therefore, the government is about to stage a fake alien invasion, either using some kind of a holographic technology or just bringing out the craft that they've developed in secret through project paperclip, through the activities of the black projects, the aerospace companies. And this is the conception that that's what the government's garing up to do. Now, there's a fatal flaw in this whole project blue beam argument. The flaw is

that there are aliens and that they are abducting people and that they are flying around an advanced aerospace vehicle vehicles and our military is encountering them and engaging with them already. That's the flaw. So in order to have a successful project blue beam, then you can't have the legitimate aliens in the picture. You're never going to be able to control what they're doing, number one. I mean, I guess you could still stage a UFO invasion. I guess you could still do that, but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because we've already got a threat.

We already have a threat. The gray aliens are the threat. They already exist. So why would we have to contrive one when we have one? And this threat is much more dire than a bunch of a UFO invasion, a bunch of UFO showing up and shooting at our, at our, you know, having firefights with our aircraft. This is a threat that is much more insidious, as I've said many times on your show. This is a species. This is a, this is a faction of entities that are

integrating themselves into society via hybrids. We don't need a manufactured threat. So if they want to do a blue beam type operation, all they have to do. to do is disclose the actual threat. And that would freak everybody out. Like Kennedy, like Senator Kennedy said, lock your doors tonight or whatever it was that he said. Yeah, what's that going to do? Right. Exactly. So why do we need, why would we need a contrived alien invasion when we already have one? That's what I don't understand why people keep propagating this. And the only thing that I can, and I'm going to get your guys's opinion on this, but the only thing that I can, the only thing that makes sense to me is that people who are propagating this blue beam

conspiracy reject the idea that actual aliens are already operating in our atmosphere and abducting people and already pose a clear and present danger. That's the only way I can make sense of this because we already have a threat, so why contrive one? What are your thoughts? Multiple thoughts on this, because I see the same channels, and I see you talking to people on Twitter sometimes about these things, too, as you have a whole group of people, probably politicians who've never heard about any these things,

and so they're getting a crash course for the first time, and you have Christians who are also saying it's just demons, and that's frustrating as well, because we've gone extensively into this show, and it's good that we're three years into this show and not three months because you know you have to expand your perspective on what the characters are what are the players in the game and name them because christians just slap demons on everything that's not helpful either and people are setting videos out that are like oh look you can make

drones do LEDs they can look like anything and i'm like do you even understand the people are making the dumbest arguments you even understand how much manpower it would take to stage a fake alien invasion? We're talking, we're talking an organization, a strategy that's beyond the scope of humans. Humans could not, they couldn't put that together. It's just too many things to have to go all at once. You know what I mean? Like some of these arguments are silly. I think there are aliens. There are demons. They're different things and we need to talk about it, right? Absolutely. And the aliens or demons thing, yeah, that definitely comes into this equation. But what people fail to realize is that you cannot conceive of a threat that is greater than the one we already face, that we actually face.

When you talk about alien abductions, just like you said, yeah, you can't lock your door. That's not going to do you any good. You can't run for the hills. You can be abducted from anywhere at any time. Imagine if the government wanted to use that reality, to control everybody with fear. It's right there for them. real. It's real. And so why would they sidestep that for a contrived threat? And they're still having to deal with disclosure, by the way, over here with the Grays and all of that. That's not going to stop

happening. So why would they contrive another scenario and have two sort of dueling threats going on, one legitimate and one illegitimate, one real and one contrived? Like you said, it would take so much manipulation and manpower and technology to sustain this theater of an alien threat. They don't have to do any of that. They just have to let people know just enough about the real threat to freak them out and control them through fair. And they can achieve all the same things. And this is exactly what I believe is going to happen at some point.

The government is going to disclose, not just ours, but governments around the world, perhaps even, it may even come from the Vatican, I don't know, but, but or the United Nations, or, but at some point in time, the government will have to deal with this threat because I believe that it is, well, they're going to have to deal with it because it's becoming more and more hostile. The posture, as I've said many times on your show, the posture of the UFO phenomenon is becoming more aggressive and more hostile. What do I mean by that? They're buzzing our fighters. They're hovering over our bases.

They're purposely flying around our battleships. That's what I mean. They're not shooting at us, as far as I know. But they're definitely coming into close proximity. And if they're coming into close proximity, they're doing it on purpose because they don't have to. They're doing it on purpose. Do you think like some of the, if you think about this like a gang faction, you know, you have the guy in the city who's talking to the higher ups. I mean, you know, if it's up to them to decide when they want.

It's not like human beings are going to be in control of disclosure. It's going to be these entities, if they are communicating with some of our world leaders, some way, shape, or form. It's not like humans are going to break the story. Exactly. Like aliens are going to do with aliens. Alien going to be alien. And humans are going to try to spin it.

That just makes more sense because to me. So are they already in cahoots with some of our world leaders, you think? and figuring out how to break this? I mean, I don't know. I tend to believe, I'm leaning towards believing the accounts that I've heard going back decades of underground bases in which human beings and gray aliens are working in the same facility. Yeah. Now, I don't have any proof.

That's total, complete conjecture, circulation 100%. But something in my gut tells me that. there's some truth to that. So are there factions of our government or other governments working directly with the grace? For some reason, you know, obviously we've talked about the created contract Edwards Air Force Base, Eisenhower, and the alleged deal that was made. And I do believe that that is actually, I think there is some anecdotal evidence to suggest that that was real. Eisenhower's granddaughter, for example, to this day, swears that that was a real event that actually happened. So that's in play. Yes, that's very much in play. That's in there. And let's not forget that the grays are not the only faction involved in all of this because what I was going to say before and I sort of jumped the gun on it, what I was going to say was that eventually, I believe it's my opinion that we are going to be told in some fashion about the gray alien threat. And this is a threat which against which we have no record.

we can't shoot nuclear missiles, you know, at these things. We're not going to take them down with sidewinder missiles, obviously. I do believe we probably can take some of them down with directed energy weapons or perhaps some kind of weapons involve, sound, black project type stuff. And I think that maybe we can have some degree of success every now and again and taking one down. If it's all out war, we're ready quick. No, I think we're screwed. We're screwed if it's an all-out war.

So we're going to be facing a situation in which we have no capabilities that can contend with the advanced technology of the grace. And we are going to need help. And I believe that it is in that scenario in which the great deception of biblical fame enters into the equation because the ones who come to help us, are going to lead mankind into kinetic war with God, ultimately, that it's going to be the hybrid son of the dragon, Apollo, and his consort, who will show up to deliver us. I've said that ad nauseum on your program and other programs. So I think that's where this is heading.

So we don't need a contrived threat. We have a real one that would suffice if they want to go that route. if they want to do their world government and to consolidate power on a on a on a uh the consolidate the military prowess of all of the nations on the globe and completely locked down the citizenry and and implement all of the mechanisms of control that the elites want they they have in their hands and then they have all the proof and they have everything they need to achieve that through the actual alien threat. Yeah. And that's not to, and that's not to say the project blue beam wasn't a thing.

It's just, it's, it's a human idea or it's a human strategy. And some of these, maybe these agencies came to light that, oh, wait, this is way beyond our control, even though that was maybe a thing they were trying to pull off. It's not like it's this, people sometimes think conspiracy theory is that it's just this one project that's been that can never be derailed or can never change. It's just can it's going to happen this way. And I think, you know, I think maybe they were trying to do something like that and then they realized it was futile. Who knows? You know, I just obviously, I think that the part of this feels like like Project Bluebeam got some of this right. It just, the contextual, the contextual aspect is wrong. I agree with you, Tim.

I think that, you know, it was Reagan who said in 87 in front of the UN. He said, we need some outside universal threat to make us recognize this common bond. I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. This is it. To me, and I think there is no way that we're going to see radical, Sharia Muslims,

and people in the West that propagate all the things that the West does and radicals detest, unite without an existential threat. And that's why I think in some ways that part is a blue being that theory is on, but I just think, I think the, the vehicle to which they, or the methodology to which they believe, or that whole theory believes it'll happen, I think is, is off. I think we, I think you, you nailed it. I think we're going to need a savior. We need a Messiah, the Antichrist, right? We need this savior that will unite humanity against an existential threat and flip that threat into the God of Israel to, to Yahweh, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to,

to Jesus. Right, exactly. And so that's why I'm like, this feels like programming, conditioning, like, why go here? And I think maybe it is multifaceted and maybe there is a bigger picture. But I just feels like it's like a- That's a good point. Maybe they are gearing up toward announcing the actual threat, right? That could be part of the equation here.

So you could have that exo, that's why I said you have geopolitical considerations and exo-political considerations, exo meaning the aliens. So when you mix these two together, you could very well have a scenario in which the Pentagon, or let's supersede the Pentagon, the dumb state is beginning to condition, not just American citizens, but condition the citizens of the world that indeed there is an extraterrestrial threat. And just sort of throwing it out there, hinting it, preparing us. conditioning us for the announcement of the actual threat, the extraterrestrial threat, gray aliens, and the need for global cooperation to address that threat.

And I would think, you know, the timing is a little early, in my opinion, for this. I think that's going to happen, but it's not going to happen until, you know, everything else comes to fruition. And when I say everything else, don't forget about transhumanism. Don't forget about the post-human paradigm that's coming. So let's not jump the gun by going to the end game without allowing for the unfolding of everything else that's happening. You know, because the grand conspiracy behind the scenes, the grandest conspiracy of all is the one that was hatched by the dragon himself to resist to deter the return of Christ. That's the grandest of all conspiracies and thereby forestall his own fate.

meaning the dragon, which was, of course, pronounced all the way back in Genesis 3. So that is the ultimate conspiracy. That is where all of this is headed. As I always say, the end game is Armageddon. That is the end game. And it's not about Israel. It's about Christ returning to the earth, to once and for all destroy the dragon and to destroy the beast and to set up his king.

kingdom, that is the final event. And so all of these other things are building towards that event. So in summation, you're right in saying, Luke, that, or was it Nate, I think both of you guys were addressing this, that Project Blue Beam, I think is real. I think there was a Project Blue Beam and probably still is a Project Blue Beam on the books. But it's no longer necessary. you have to remember that Werner von Braun probably was not completely aware of the abduction phenomenon and of the hybrid program in the way that we are today. Why do I say that? Because if we remember that conversation we had about alien abductions, a number of shows back,

the government in the early days, 60, 70s, 80s, and even into the 90s, in the early days, the government was abducting the abductees. So an abductee would be abducted by the grays and then the government would come and abduct the abduct the abductee to try and figure out what the grays were doing and were implanting these abductees with their own devices to try and track them. So the U.S. government, the military, the military intelligence,

whoever it was, the dumb state, was abducting abductees to try and figure out what the grays were up to. What does that tell us? That informs us that they didn't know exactly what was going on with the program, what the Grays were doing. So there's no way that Wernervan Braun could have known that the Grays were actually engaged in this program that we didn't figure out until probably the 80s, really.

I mean, I would say the 80s is when our government really started to wake up. And there's reasons I say that wake up to the reality of this hybrid program and what the grays are actually up to. So maybe at that point, Project Blue Beam was Shell. like hey guys we don't need a contrive threat anymore we got one you want it it's here so that would be my thought on blue beam again it's not that blue beam wasn't a real project or isn't a real project it's that it is no longer necessary yeah yeah yeah i i agree with that totally and i think we've talked a lot on our show about how you know satan is just obsessed with sort of getting the glory

being like christ the twisted gospel and he's the chaos He's the chaos in this whole story. And I think we talk about that a lot. And then it kind of reminds me to him of what I think Satan wants to do. It's sort of the miracle that Jesus performs on the boat. You have all the disciples just freaked out because there's this storm. You know, and then Jesus calms the storm. And I think Satan wants to do a similar thing.

He wants to create as much chaos. And then he rolls in and says, oh, I can calm this storm. I can be like Christ. And it's just this obsession to, to be the one that calms the storm and, you know, quote, saves humanity, right? It's this. Remember, according to the Book of Revelation, what will be the anthem at the end of the age? Peace and safety.

And that is what the Antichrist is going to bring, at least to those who follow him for a while. peace, or at least that's what he's going to campaign on, peace and safety. So you're exactly right, Nate. That narrative, that campaign slogan is going to come at a time when there is absolute and utter chaos caused by the dragon so that his man, his hybrid son can appear on the scene as the prince of peace. Love it. I mean, so listen, Project Bluebeam died in the 80s, blurry creatures. born in the 80s. That's a circle.

Tim Alvarino, great to have you. We know you need to go. That completes the circle. Again, remember, Tim has, is putting on the first ever blurry creatures expedition. We're going to Peru with Tim in June. We're going to offer the first shot at tickets to our members. So if you're not a member, become a member. Tim can't wait to see you next week.

We're going to have a blast at BlurieCon. And thanks again for your time here. Always good to see you. Yeah. Yeah, and it. Looking forward to it, gentlemen. And if you can't make it and you want to see the show, you can go to our website and get a streaming ticket. We're going to have a multiple camera crews there.

Filming it, it'll be a little more interactive than just setting up a laptop and hit and record. But I can't wait to do this live at the show. And cloaks. In cloaks. We will be in Wainsworth, here. That is true, actually. Party on, Nate. Yes, sir.

party. All righty. Tim, we'll see you soon, Luke. Hey, hollering to town. Let us know when you get here. See you guys.

Yep. All right. See you guys. Thanks. All right.