Blurry Creatures - EP: 17 Hybrids & Chimeras with Gary Wayne

Episode Date: November 24, 2020

We continue our deep dive into the ancient world & bring on research expert and author Gary Wayne to learn more about the genetic experiments of the past. Who was making these hybrid creatures? What evidence do we have that these mythological creatures might have in fact walked among us? Gary Wayne proves to be a deep well of knowledge as we explore the mysteries of the past, the impact on the present, and what may come in the future.   Guest: http://genesis6conspiracy.com [e-mail] blurrycreatures.com  Socials www.instagram.com/blurrycreatures  www.facebook.com/blurrycreatures  www.twitter.com/blurrycreatures  Music Kyle Monroe: www.tinytaperoom.com  Aaron Green: https://www.instagram.com/aaronkgreen/  Mastering: Brandon Weaver https://ironwingstudios.com Outro Song: TimeCop1983: www.timecop1983.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Well, I do get asked that a lot. I didn't write about Bigfoot in my book at all. It's a large book to begin with, and there's so many things to talk about once you start going down. some of these rabbit holes. But, you know, Bigfoot has this similar kind of historical mythos or legacy that comes down through prehistory. It's known both before and after the flood on all continents all around the world, except for Antarctica. Of course, we don't know what may come out of Antarctica at some point in time. They're large and hairy creatures, similar to how Some of the Nephilim are described.

So they seem to be sort of connected in that sort of aspect as well. They tend to have glowing eyes. And Nephom were thought to have shining eyes. I don't know whether everybody has seen like the Stargate movies and the Stargate TV series, but they have those serpentine gauul things that infest the bodies and their eyes glow. That would be sort of a depiction as to how bright these eyes were. and they were called the shining ones, so they could light up a room. So there's connections there, not that the Bigfoot eyes light up to the same degree.

Bigfoot doesn't seem to be as large as a Nephilim, but again, kind of similar. They tend to live in caves. And, of course, you have like the Horim, which are the hairy tribe of Raphaim, which are post-Aluvian Nephilim that are, you know, Horim goes back to cave dwellers. So you have some etymology that sort of goes back to there. they tend to be intelligent and they tend to communicate. There's tapping on logs and things like that. So I look at the Bigfoot as being one of those nephalum-like creatures, but distinct.

So in prehistory, you get a whole host of, we'll call it fabled, but probably not fable, probably have, has a significant basis in reality, but fabled creatures that are populating the anti-deluvian world, but don't survive into the post-deluvian world. And I think they would be perhaps part of that. So just make some quick relationships. And they're also seemingly connected to portals and they're also seemingly connected to the little people, which again is that sort of common historical legacy. So I don't know exactly what they are, but they seem to have, and again, they have names today on all continents. So it's this ongoing sort of. of living history or mythos that is very, very common to all cultures around the world.

Yeah, yeah, I have to say, we didn't talk about your book, Genesis 6 conspiracy. I do have to tell you, my grandma's 97, and she told me she's reading your book. Oh, excellent. There you go. And you can tell her that she can contact me any time with questions or comments that she has or on any other topic, and she can get hold of me through my website. Yeah, we had a phone call about the Nephlin the other day, and then my mom's like, hey, you know, grandma's actually reading Gary Wayne's book.

And I was just like, this is great. She's 97. She ain't slowing down. She's going for it. And in the last, like, six or seven episodes, we've been talking about the chimera creatures. And I'm starting to develop this opinion because I've been listening to stories of Bigfoot for the last 10 years or so. And on our show, we've been kind of exploring what they are. We've been talking a lot about the giants.

I think Bigfoot might be a chimera, a chimera of a primate and a spirit fault. Can you talk to us about these chimerical creatures? The centaurs, the satyrs, the fauns, sirens, sphinx, fairies, werewolves, even jackalopes are considered in that family. And the little people, Nate. Always the little people. The little people. Yeah.

Well, and again, it's such a large topic. Sure. So if we're going to talk about Camara, Camara may be something that. is unique from the other kinds of creatures because if you look at a typical definition of Camara in Greek mythology or Camara like creatures like King Hubata of the Cedar Forest of Mount Hermon or the unicorn in its traditional mythos, it has so many cross sort of pollination of parts, whether or not it's different types of feet, different kinds of tails, different kinds of bodies. It's got a combination of animals, whereas typical creations that are in the

sort of the Nephilim group and the greater Nephilim group that would include Bigfoot and the little people and understanding there's three groups of the elementals, which are part of the fairy people, which is part of four groups. So it's a, again, it's a fascinating. topic, they tend to be more humanistic in their design with something else that's going on there. And they all tend to have in terms of their creation, a mythology that goes back to the creation from the gods, usually through sexual copulation. But you don't get this Camara effect. So I look at Camara as more of a DNA manipulation that is going on that may be intermixed with a nephalum, greater nephalum concept type of creation, but is somehow distinct with all the different things that are going on. And when I say that, I mean, first people are going to say, well, before the flood and in prehistory, I mean, they didn't have any of this technology.

well maybe that's not true and in fact i make a good case in the book that they had a technology that was greater in what we have today and we're just catching up to and with that being the case as as in the prophecy of matthew where it says you know the days of you know be the end time and the coming of jesus will be like the uh days of noah so if we're just catching up to that DNA aspect of manipulation and we're not in the end time yet that means that we're catching up to that anti-deluvian technology and I think that accounts for a lot of those different kinds of creations can we can we back up real quick though because you started talking about the three can you dive just a second talk about the three element elemental and how that that

that whole thing I haven't heard that before so oh it's yeah and I do cover it a fair bit of the fairies in the book, but not into the detail that obviously is there. That's out there. So fairy is broken up into four major categories. The first one is the proud ones and the rebellious ones that come from other planets that, from a Christian perspective, we would understand as fallen angels and they're led by the proud one. They have offspring where the mythos of the Tuatha Dadaan, the fairy people come from. So those are the earth-born giants. It'd be similar to the Anunaki and the earthborn Anunaki or the Nephilim, you know, created by the sons of God. Then you have the third group, which is more like this ghost group, this demon group, banshees, phantoms, things like that are within the fairy mythology, which would be equivalent to, you know, demons in the Bible,

bodiless spirits of the Nephilim that didn't go to sleep and weren't permitted to go to heaven and weren't sent to the abyss. and then you have the elementals. And the elementals are split into three groups, and they're all little people. And all around the world, again, you have three distinct groups. It doesn't matter whether or not it's Native American or it's Southeast Asia or wherever you go. You have a similar accounting of these little people that are created by the gods before the flood. And they all have specific agenda. So they typically get split into three.

And just to cover it off quickly, you have the ugly ones, which are like hobbits, dwarves, trolls, gnomes, those kinds of ones. And, you know, just look at, you know, Lord of the Rings and you get a pretty good understanding of what some of these ugly ones are. And even some of the elves, but not the light elves or the white elves, which are larger beings. then you have the good looking ones like the white elves and then you you know and they would be like you know pixies and they would be like uh tinkerbell in um peter pan so good looking ones right and then you have the third classification which are the mischievous ones so they'd be like leprecons and trickster uh elves and things like that so they and there's different names and there's a whole bunch of different classifications of each of those in the group.

So if I go back to, let's say, the group that are the ugly ones, you've got the dwarves who are basically and the hobbits who are living in the earth, and the dwarves would be ones that manufactured weapons for the gods and the Nephilim, just as are depicted in the Lord of the Rings. And he has more of a north slant to his telling of the little people. And so you would also have like the gnomes, which looked after the technology, the genealogy, and the knowledge. And they're depicted the same as the little grays in terms of the alien mythos and having flying machines come through portals, kidnap people, return them. They don't have any memories.

And they're looking to do sexual experimentations and things to continue their ability to produce. So that's sort of a quick sort of nutshell with a few examples. Yeah, man. It's wow. We heard stories of Henry Hudson getting drunk with some of these dwarves. It seems like some of them, you know, we have some guests to say that they were around in the last three or 400 years, some people think, right? And some of these giants people still see them too. Well, and people still say that they're seeing the little people in association with pigfoot, particularly in North America. I'm a little concerned, Nate, that like these, what they call the ugly ones, are typically mythologically bearded. Are there any beautiful ones that have beards?

Because I don't want, I hate to be grieved in that. I would think there'd be some beautiful bearded. You got part in effluent blood in you there, Lee. Sometimes it feels like when you get that phone bill, it's like the crash site document. You can't read it. There's a bunch of numbers, random fees, vague language, stuff's blacked out. You're like, what am I actually paying for? I don't know about you, but I like keeping my money where I can see it.

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I'm sorry to tell you that. So I guess Nate and I got to jump into the mischievous pot because there are some bearded leprechauns. Yes. I have a question for you, though. So could Nephilim, so, you know, create chimerical creatures or it's just the watchers that are creating those creatures? I tend to decide on the conclusion that it would have been the watch. that would have been doing that. So the Nephalim would have been a creature that were procreated by the watchers.

They would have usurped the kingships both before and after the flood. They would have partnered with the mystical religion as being part of their organizational structure, which not only had the worship of the gods but held the cult of the knowledge that they had, and were developing that knowledge, and they would have had access to it. They may have even directed some of it in terms of what they would have wanted done, but it would have been either the priest class, which also in a lot of traditions are Nephilim as well, particularly in, let's say, with the Naga's,

they produced a warrior ruling class and a Brahman priest class, and they had a bloodline that went with it, the tangu had a warrior class and a priest class. The tangu, if you're not familiar with that term, that's the bird-like nephalum that's in Southeast Asia. They look like sort of the Anunaki. You might also take that out of the Zabelba that were bird-like out of the Kishamaya and the Camazots, which was the House of Camasots within the Zbelba.

And of course, if you Google Camazots, you're going to bring up the typical sort of look of Batman. So just to tie a few other connections into the... there. So you have a priest class that would have been developing this knowledge, and in partnership on the specifics of those disciplines into the seven sciences and the knowledge that they would have received from the gods or the fallen angels into the mystery schools and the secret societies that are manifested through the mystery schools. And are they, so our understanding is like, the chimera is like the animal version of the Nephilim, you know, so the fallen angels

mated with women directly. These aren't like test tubes. They don't have like, you know, science laboratories back then. Is this like bestiality? Yeah. I mean, when you're talking about, you know, sexual copulation, yeah, you're talking about them actually mating or depositing their seed into those animals. And there's that possibility, too.

But typically, as you get it, whether or not it's from, you know, the little people, that's a copulation from fallen angels and some sort of other type of being or a human, presumably, to create these little people. And it's about how, if it's a sexual copulation, is how do what they produce through a sexual population produce something that's little people versus the large people, which would be the Nephilim. in. You have to understand that if you understand who fallen angels are, you know that they're spirit beings. And so, and that's where you get into a conundrum in Christianity where people say, well, there's no way they could have had sex because they're spirit beings. But we get lots of examples of angels taking the form of a human and other forms throughout the Bible, and that they ate and drank and talked and associated, touched and everything. So we know they can take a physical

form. Yeah. And we get many different forms. So they seem to be able to take any form that they want. So if you wanted to take the form and pass on the DNA of that form through a sexual copulation, you would probably have to take a form that would pass that on. So I think that's how that sort of accounts for some of those things. And maybe they even took a shape of an animal.

So when I talk about passing on that DNA, just let me sort of kind of. clarify that so people understand it. So the watchers are thought to be the seraphom angels. Those are the fiery serpent-faced angels. And of course we have watchers in Daniel four. And if you look into the structure of religion and government, both before and after the flood, they're dominated by serpent imagery, both of the gods and of the kings. And so it's thought that the seraphim angels produced serpent-like offspring as demigods. So that's why the kings were also depicted that way. And if you look at Akhenaten, if you were at Google that up and bring him up, you're going to see something that is, say, 1,200 BC to 1400 BC, depending on

the chronology that you're using, biblical or secular, he still has those serpentine attributes. He He has that protruding chin, those high cheekbones, those large eyes that would have glowed. And with the wraparound eyes, he has that elongated skull, those thin lips. And you're seeing a serpent-like face. And this is after, you know, over a thousand years since the blood of the flood by using the biblical chronology. And over 2,000 years from the original nephylene before the flood. So you can see still that serpentine. Look, you have what I talked about, the animal.

Nunaki, the bird-like gods and angels producing the tango that I talked about with the Camazot, Zibaba, tangu, bird-like. You also have gods that say that are lion gods that are like Mahis or Nurgal out of Sumaria producing the lion men and several different names and stuff that go along with that. And you also have gods like Anubis, which were a jackal or a dog god, producing offspring as well that looked like them. So that seems to be how they passed on that technology, but it doesn't answer the Camara question that you're talking about when you get all of these different parts.

And I think that's the knowledge from heaven and the DNA manipulation in action. There's a whole list. Some of them are three-parters, two-parters, four-parters, five-parters, like the jackalogue, supposed to have feathers like a bird, antlers like a deer, you know, a rabbit body. So I guess the way you described it, this is how I see it. So you think a spirit could come down like a wolf. It's supernatural, but it looks like a wolf.

It mates with a wolf creates dogman, werewolves. It's not like, so like, you know, angels came down. They took human body form, and they made it with the women, and then they created the giants. They could do the same thing with, like, they can make themselves become any animal, mate with that animal, and that animal's offspring is going to be supernatural. By passing on that physical DNA that makes that physical form. And that's actually based in some scripture too. So in Jude 1-6, people were to bring that passage up. It'll talk about the fallen angels and the crimes they committed before the flood in the time of Noah.

And they left their habitation. That hapidation is the Greek word Eukitarian. Oiketarian means a dwelling place for the spirit. If you go over to 1st Corinthians 5, you get the only other application as a house in heaven for Oiketarian, which is the dwelling place for the spirit. But it's also talking about the close of heaven in terms of the form that you have up there in the spirit and the clothes of the earth, which are the form that spirit beings take in the physical world. And they need that dwelling place for the spirit.

They need a physical body to interact with it. They can be in the world in a spirit form, but they can't interact. But with a physical body, they have a dwelling place where they can interact, eat, talk, have sex. And if you think about that now with the demon spirits, which are thought to be the, and I have a great document on that, on all this Eukentary and stuff, I have like three documents on that and one on the demons for the case for demons, is that when their body's die because in Genesis 6.3, life is limited to 120 years. And they had received from their gods or the fallen angels, the immortal spirit, God limits that to 120 years. So the body is no longer immortal. So it dies. But the spirit's not able to go to sleep. It's not able to go to heaven. So we've talked about that previous. But what's important about that is as we, let's say,

roll forward to some New Testament documentation of demons, particularly at the time, of Jesus, and Jesus is dealing with demons and possession all of the time. He talks about these demon spirits as being in dry places, and they're thirsting for a place to land, which is a body, because they can't rest and they can't interact. They need a body to interact with the world. That's that oiketarian dwelling place that they're looking for. So I'm not just sort of pulling some of the stuff out of the air. I'm not saying that you're saying that. But for the audience, I want them to know that there's information on this that sort of makes sense and it has a consistent story to it.

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so we're not just pulling this out of scripture. This is a common theme across humanity, correct? So this is a worldwide legacy that we have. So in all cultures, on all continents, again, you have the creation of humans and you have the creation of the giants. And they're related to the flood in all accounts of it. And the giants are named by many different people around the worlds. So in the subcontinent of India. And of course, you have a lot. you know, these seraphim gods there, they're called Nagas, right? Or you have the dragon serpent gods in China, or you have the plumed and feathered serpent in the Kishamaya. These are all seraphim angels that are being described around the world and they're thought to be the watchers. And the watchers look after government and religion

as are depicted in three times in Daniel four. So you have got, in the subcontinent of India, they're called the Danawa and they're called the Ditea and they're called the Azura. So several different names and they're called titans or heroes in Greek mythology. And people will say, wait a minute. I mean, no, Titans are gods. Well, yeah, but Atlas is a Titan. And he's also the offspring of Poseidon and Clymine or Clydo and Iiapadus, depending on which version that you're reading.

And he's also a hero. So they're called both. Right. Hercules is the same, right? The Hercules, he's the son of Zeus, or Thessius or Perseus. These are all different types of Nephilim. And they're demigods, and a demigod is defined in antiquity as the offspring of a human female and a god.

Yeah. Right? And you have the Miosi in China, and you have the Adunaki in Sumaria, and you have the Zimbabalba in the Kishamaya. And the names go on and on and on. And then again, after the flood, in the Bible, we get all of these other names as well. And we're not told exactly how they show up after the flood. And there's a few different ways. But these are the Raphaim.

These are the post-alluvian giants. And they also have a lot of vernacular names, whether it's the academy, or it's the horim, or it's the Abim, or the Zabuzim, or the Zuzim, or the Eme, or the Eme, or the Anachim. I don't go through all of the names. But none of them have patriarchs in the Bible. Yeah. Yeah. This is like Goliath, correct? The same idea. Yeah, so Goliath is called a giant. And giant goes back in the Old Testament, except for three times, to the word Rafa. Rafa can mean a ghost in one of the applications, which is thought to be the demon. It also can mean physician, and it can also be a tribe of giants. So you have to check which word is being used in that application and what does it go back to into the original Hebrew for the meaning. because they're different numbered words.

They're all part of the same root because it's thought that the Nephilim had self-healing qualities, as in that physician sort of aspect. So it is connected, but it can also be used for medicine and doctors and things like that. So again, you have to pick the right meaning because Hebrew words can have several different meanings. Yeah, yeah. And so, and I am is the male plural. and it also be translated as ones. So you could look at as the giant ones, whether it's Nephilim, which is the other three times,

which comes from the Hebrew word Nephiel with the I.M.L. plural. And that comes from the word Nephall, which is the fall, which is thought to be representative of the fallen, but the I am one, the fallen ones. And so you would have the Nephilim of the earth in that case and the nephalim of the heaven, just as you've got the Titans of Earth and the Titans of Heaven, that the Anunaki of Earth, the Anunaki of heaven, you get that sort of consistent understanding that there's two types of gods. One's a full God.

One's a demigod. One's from the offspring of the human female as the definition of demigod goes. So yes, so he is called a giant. That goes back to Raphaim as opposed to the anti-deluvian giants, which are Nephilim. And the other two times, there's issues three times. Once in Genesis 1,66, 4. And then in the exaggerated report of numbers 1333, where the anachim are said to be giants, which goes back to the word Nephilim, and that is an exaggeration to scare the Israelites.

Because the anachim or Raphaim, as they're defined in Deuteronomy, too, not Nephilim. And so I think the Nephilim may have been bigger and slightly different somehow, some way. but the Bible certainly just distinguishes between Nephilim and Refilem, both of them defined as giants. The breeding going on here, I mean, so like our show, we started with Bigfoot. And what I've listened to you on several podcasts, and you really know Narnia well. And I think the more this show goes on, the weirder Narnia gets. Because that's why I asked that question earlier if Nephilim could have created some of these other things, because it seems like as they're breeding, the giants are getting smaller, they're still passing on

their spiritual DNA. You know, like my thought is if these things entered into the world as like a gorilla, this spirit gorilla mates with another grill, they create Bigfoot, some of these nephaline mate with humans, they create a different breed of giants. It just seems like there's a lot of interbreeding going on. It's really complicated. There is. It gets very complicated, and which makes it such a fascinating subject. And so now you're talking about the second class of hybrids in terms of the nephylene. Because you have the hybrid angelic and human, and of course, different kinds of nephalum, as we've talked about. But you know, in Genesis 10, you have the Canaanites. And Canaan comes out of the family of ham, and he produces Heth, which produces the Hittites, and

Sidon, which produces the Sidonite people. But then you have all of these other names that don't have a patriarch. You have the Amorites. You have the Jeboreates. You have the Jebubes. And Ardvites and the Archivites and Jebusites and just this whole family. And family goes back to the Hebrew word, which basically means a different kind or different species. And there's no patriarch. And I said, except for the Neph, the Refaim after the flood, all the different people have a genealogy that goes back to Table Nations in Genesis 10 and First Chronicles, which are the offspring of Noah, his wife, in the three sons and their wives that create all of the offspring that's listed.

Except for one exception, we do get Arba, who is the father of the Anak, or the Anakene. That's the only Raphaim sort of patriarch to one of the branches that we get. So these ones are all patriarchless, which makes no sense. So where did they come from? Well, I think as we look at, let's say Amos, it talks about the Amorites as being the size of the cedars of Lebanon. Now, that's a simile. It's a metaphor. It's not totally literal, but the cedars of Lebanon were the giant trees of the ancient world and they build all of the ancient sites out of them. They were 36 to 40 to 50 feet tall, but it's a simile. So we know they're

taller than the Israelites, but they're probably not as big as the Anakim or the Refayim, right? They're hybrids. And the Amirites are one of these families that are in these families of nations. And These are the nations that were the daughters of Canaan, the daughters of Scydon, the daughters of the Hittites, would have married a Refayim patriarch and produced a hybrid class of giants that are bigger than humans, but smaller than the Raphaim. So back now to numbers 1333, as you read that, as the scouts are reporting back what they saw in the promised land, they see three Anakim, kings, which are Raphaim, as Deuteronary too classifies on that. And that's Talmi, Sheshai, and Ahima. And they also see people that are mightier than the Israelites and taller, and all of them living together in these high-walled cities. These are the Amarites, the Amalekites, these are the hybrids that come out of the patriarchs marrying in with the Refayem marrying into the

Canaanites that are ruling in the covenant land. So you have those two groups of people. And those details are confirmed in Deuteronomy one after Israel moves out from the desert. So we know the details of the scouts is accurate, but it's the exaggeration of the Nephilim, which is designed only to scare Israel from going into the land of that time. Gary, if we move forward in time now, so we're looking backwards, is there any thought that some of this DNA still exists in humanity today? Are we looking at, did that all get wiped out? Or, I mean, this is always fascinating to me to look backwards and say, this has happened. Is there any of that stuff left? Because I know the Bible specifically, in the biblical worldview,

we look at lineage. It was very important to make sure that Jesus came from a line of humans, right? There was no marring of that lineage. Now, the rest of humanity, and we fall into in there somewhere, it makes me wonder about today. Well, it's a very good question. And, you know, the Giants didn't disappear with the flood. They show up again after the flood. And in the time of the Exodus, we know they're fighting against giants. And giants show up after they take the covenant land and all throughout the time of the judges and with the countries that are still around, and particularly with the Philistines and the Malachim and the Horeen. And even into David and Saul's, lifetime as they're fighting the phyllisines and the bible never says they white the refoim from the face of the earth what they did do though if you start linking into some of the information that i provided earlier is that they usurp the kingships and they created the great dynasties but they would try and continue to intermarry to keep those bloodlines pure but then if you're not

careful, you start to create blood diseases that we would know today as hemophiliac disease or Habsburg lockjaw disease. Right. There's no branches, there's no branches in your family tree. At some point it ends, right? If it's a straight line. Yeah. Yeah. So they had to introduce lower levels of hybrids intermarrying with humans to prevent the diseases. And that's why, again, as we talked about earlier, you see a degradation of that look and size just as witnessed by the Akhenaten statue. Right. So not fully john. not fully serpentine, but you see that sort of evolution as that gets intermarried. It's interesting that all of the royal families today trace their genealogies back to prehistory,

and they say they have these genealogies, and that they trace those genealogies back to the giants, to the Raphaim and the Nephilim and to specific fallen angels. And the purity of that bloodline is where they fit in the hierarchy of the cult. Most people think that the RH negative bloodline is the bloodline of the Neph-Nephalene and the Raffaim. And typically like the Windsors, for example, would have O-negative. And R.H. negative tends to be a significant part of the royal family's bloodlines. And so there's a connection there, whether it's Vrail and the Rosicrucians and all the other mythologies about this is the bloodline of the giants and the fallen angels. where people come along and they kind of debunk that,

and I don't talk about R.H. negative in my book, I just talk about the genealogies and their bloodlines and how they take that back into prehistory, into the giants and to the fallen angels. Is RH negative is missing something. It's missing the antigens, as opposed to the positive that has the antigens. So the standard argument is this,

that it can't be inserted into the human bloodline because it's missing something. If you're inserting something, you can insert something that's missing, right? But that is only part of the story. So let's me just back step one step further, and I'll get to the point of your question, is that 15% of the population has RH negative blood. It's heavily predominant in royal families. It's the most predominant in the area of Western France,

where it runs at about 20% to 25% sort of saturation levels, and the most saturated levels of RH negative are the Basques, who say they are H-Atlantis and they survived the flood and they started Egypt, Sumeria, Scythia, and settled in northeast and west Spain after the flood. And one of the reasons why they had a diaspora, they had a falling out with the other bloodlines. So we have RH negative that is somehow,

comes into the human bloodlines. We're not sure how or when, but it's not, can't really, really inserted so people will say, if you're talking about insertion, it would have to be RH positive. Except that, to have any type of bloodline, you need DNA that's going to, and genes to manufacture that type of blood. So that's where you kind of have to go to. Now, what they call that in their cult and in their belief system

is the gene of ISIS. Isis being a mother goddess and thought to have created, you know, offspring giants as well. And being a mother goddess, obviously there's that fertility aspect. And that's also the root word the occult would use for Genesis. It's this gene of ISIS that produces the RH negative blood that gets passed on. So people should probably be looking more for the gene as opposed to what is manifested from the gene. That is the spark of the divine that the New Age and Eastern religions and polytheists believe in that they're trying to collect. in a universal religion and a world government so that they can evolve back into the demigods of old.

And ISIS is directly related to the raising of Osiris, right? Because she's the one giving that spark, and that has a lot to do. That ceremony itself and that mythology dogma has a ton to do with raising a spirit from what would be, we would consider to be where the watchers are, correct? Yeah, well, it would be a spirit of the demigods. because the fallen angel spirit is immortal. Okay, yeah. Right?

That's wild. And that's why you have that sort of allegory of Egypt mysticism as part of Freemasonry. Yeah. It's all interconnected into that polytheist and Gnostic belief system. And just to get back to some of these creatures, why do these centaurs, fons, werewolves, big, why do they have human body parts? Why aren't they, you know what I mean? Well, what's interesting about the centaurs is this, is that they're not necessarily created from a population.

They are created in a cloud. And so one starts to wonder, what is that cloud mean that seems to suggest off earth? And it's not a sexual copulation. So is it a DNA manipulation? And so when we look at those kinds of things, and that's a distinct possibility. I mean, it could be just sort of an allegory within the myth, but that's what it says. And there's only one other one other creation that I know of that is also created in a cloud. And that's the Amaka Seth giant out of the Gnostic belief system, which is a precursor to the giants that the Gnostics believe were also created in Genesis 6.

He was also created in a cloud and sat down in Gamera, before the flood and then replanted again and saw them after the flood as I think it's the tablet of Seth and the gospel of Judas talks about. So you have that being sort of understood as, okay, maybe those are DNA manipulations for similar kinds of beings. Now, the centaers in mythology actually taught many of the heroes, whether it's Hercules or Perseus. Yeah. So they had a, they were a distinct race. and lived on a particular island, and they were highly educated and were thought to taught a lot of the demigods. So, yeah, it's an interesting mythology for sure.

Because people still see these things. You know, they still see the dogmen. They still see the fauns. They still see goatmen to this day. So somehow they survived, hiding out, underground, wherever. Again, we don't understand why fully are they before the flood. and then again they show up again after the flood. So I think it would be very similar to how the Raffaim show up after the flood.

I think my favorite position is that there is a second incursion, a second restart of this technology, religion, illicit illegal creations that violate the laws of creation. And there are other ways as in the survival story on another arc in another way or somehow on the ark. But it doesn't really answer the greater question of all these other beings unless they have survival stories as well, off the earth, in the earth, on arc, whichever way you want to go on that.

I would tend to settle for a second sort of creation. And I begin that sort of understanding at Babel, where you have Nimrod, who's the first grandmaster of the Freemasons after the flood, writes the Constitution. And he gets, receives this knowledge from Hermes who finds the knowledge that's, It's hidden under the pyramids in 36 volts, or 36,525 books and 9 volts stack underneath the pyramids. And it brings us back to Nimrod. And that allows them the technology to start building the city. They introduced the Babel religion.

And all the languages are confused. And then you have Nimrod staying in Sumaria, intermaring with the bloodlines of the giants there. And Hermes going over with Mizrim over to Egypt, starting the second pillar of the religion after the flood, or the mystical religions all sort of take their root from, either from Sumaria or from Egypt. And so in that, you get the knowledge, right? And we also get told that Nimrod became a mighty one, or Gibrein, which is used to describe giant. But we know Nimrod is the son of Cush. So he's not the offspring of a male, at least a male angel. And somehow he becomes in it. And became is a word where he's like violating an oath or something. So not only rebelling and starting this religion, but something

else changes. And so that may be where the knowledge where he becomes, but it's this becomes a mighty one, but it's this knowledge if they had that DNA manipulation, or you have a second incursion that's happening in and around the time of Babel and the reemergence of illicit knowledge, those angels would have gone to the abyss as well for those crimes and would have had to have been replaced by other fallen angels as witness. by Psalms 82 with the Council of the Gods. And so you would probably have had a second incursion of that knowledge and creation after the flood, which would account for the other beings.

Other than that, they went through portals or something like that and resurfaced again after the flood. And again, when you go back to Tolkien, at the end of his trilogy, and it's all about the antediluvian epoch and all the different kinds of peoples and things, you see them going away on a boat, on a water, which is an allegory for the flood, and they're going to another location through another portal because now it's the age of man. And so that's where the portal type of theory sort of comes back, where just as one example, where they have been repopulating and showing up since the flood through portals. Do you think guys like Tolkien, C.S. Lewis saw all of this?

they understood this part of the Bible, and they were just writing these, trying to give people breadcrumbs to the actual stories in the Bible that for some reason people just deny exists? No, I actually have a little different take on that. So if you understand that the elite are made up of the bloodlines of the Raphaine and the Nephilim, and they control the religion, and they've controlled the nobility, and they control the education, and they've controlled the literature from the beginning, whether or not it was before the flood or after the flood, then you understand that a lot of the literature is basically their literature and history.

Now, when we look at the knowledge that Tolkien and Lewis had, it's extraordinary. And they're taken into the Inkeling Society, which is a Rosicrucian Golden Dawn Order of writers at Ours. Oxford while they're in their early 20s, which makes no sense because they have no record of being Freemasons, right? And you need you to be an adept Freemason to be in with any sort of Rosicrucian group where they developed these writing skills and the stories from the knowledge of the Rosicrucians who also believe they go back, as with the bloodlines of the elite, back to the gods and the Nephilim. So how does that happen? Well, in the pure bloodlines, you are initiated

from childhood. And you actually become an adept before you're allowed to have the title. You have to be close to the age of 30 to be able to accept an adept title. So you have these two bloodline writers who get introduced in Oxford to the Inklings Society

to write about their history without having to be masons, right? Because they're part of the Royal Masons, which the top half of the Rosicrucians are all pure bloods. So in the six-part series of documents that I produce and I give out to people who are looking for it, five and six trace the bloodlines of Tolkien and Lewis, and they go right back to the royal bloodlines.

So they had some sort of prior knowledge, all this stuff, and that's why they could create these worlds. Yeah. Yeah, and it was honed into a writing skill and maybe even provided a little bit more, but they would have been super adepts, right? They would have been of the pure blood. So it's not really the Golden Dawn Society providing the knowledge.

They're providing the skill craft. And that has a history, whether or not you go back to the Spearshaker Society that Shakespeare and Bacon were part of, or the Knights of the Helmet, which was another writing society, where they wrote, again, their history and their genealogies. And, of course, in Shakespeare, you get fairies and giants and all sorts of different things in genealogies. this is part of that whole writing society to keep their history alive, but in plain sight,

that they were continuing. Yeah, I mean, so our last guest said something. He said that the thesis of the Bible would be the serpent seed versus the woman's seed, and there's this war going on all the time. So you think some of these guys are in with the serpent seed? They are, is there just two sides, or is there more? Are there more than two sides? Because there's certainly thousands of creatures. Sometimes, you know, a lot of previous guests have described some of these beings as sort of neutral.

Like they weren't always evil. They actually sometimes did good things like Bigfoot will save a human being. You know, there's just weird stories of neutrality. What do you think about all that? Well, that makes sense in the dualistic polytheist religion. So in the macro level, you have good versus evil. is in perpetual conflict and always will be and neither side will win. But you also have duality within polytheism. That's at the lower level. And so you have white magic and you have black magic. You have some good nephalum and you have some bad nephalum.

So like Hercules would be considered a good nephalum. You have black witches and white witches and good kings and evil kings. I mean, so you have that, that duality that's in it and that's all kind of relative as to which side that they're on but directionally even though you have rivalries and there's lots of rivalries and i'll come back to that in the second directionally they're all moving in the same direction but they're all power hungry and for them the ultimate goal is who's going to be as in like the fairy sort of nephalum allegory story of the highlanders there can only be one right yeah and there's only going to be one ruling

family, when it all settles out, that's going to start a dynasty of a ruling class that will rule for eternity in that sort of belief system, as they present their dragon Messiah. So you have that duality. But what I point out to people is it's what you do, which is either good or evil. Right. And so it's my belief system that, and I know some people will disagree with me, is that if they accepted God and Jesus as their savior, they would be saved. if they didn't violate the laws of creation themselves, right, if they received it innocently,

let's say, as offspring, whether or not they're capable of doing that or want to do that, but I know a lot of people would disagree with me on that. Just as knowledge is neither good or evil, it's how it's used. Yeah, right? And so that does make a lot of sense to me, but whether or not they're neutral, proactive on one side or another side, they're all working towards the same. amen and they all, unless they renounce their allegiance and the worship to the pantheon of gods, it's kind of irrelevant if they do a few good things or not.

So do, I mean, is Satan the head of all these gods? Yes. Is there one entity? Okay. Yeah. Yes. He, and again, as Isaiah 1412 talks about, and that's the Latin word Lucifer, which is the god of the Freemasons, also known as the great architect of the universe, and

a few other names, inserted for a Hebrew word, which is Hale L, which is typically an angelic name that shows up in the King James Version Bible. And in those verses, I know I go down a lot of rabbit trails, Satan wants to be raised up like God, to have his throne in heaven like God. And to be like God would put him at the top of that pantheon. Yeah. And then all the other angels would be like, you know, you would have like the seven archangels. Well, he would have a counterfeit seven archangels. And then as that comes down, you have that whole hierarchy that's going to be very similar to the hierarchy in heaven. So around Satan's throat, he would have some fanning. Those would be the wheel angels. You would have the cherubim and you have would have other

seraphim. Because in all the different ranks and levels of angels, some of each would have a rebel. Okay. So when, you know, there's lots of times you heard those, like, unforgivable sins and things like that growing up, when you take something and you make an abomination of it, is that sort of sealing your fate on this side? Like you're, you've taken something pure and you've corrupted it, so therefore you are aligning your allegiance to the dark side, so to speak? Well, what we're told is that there's only one sin that's not forgiven, and that's a blasphemy or a sin against the Holy Spirit. And I think that's probably linked to creation of violations like creating of Nephilim and, you know, physically doing that. The other other sin that seems to be related is taking the mark of the

beast, which is willfully done. You will choose to do that. And it either changes your DNA. And it's also implicated as worshiping Satan and the Antichrist. And so again, that may be a violation against the Holy Spirit as well, or it's just the worship of is just isolated to that last three and a half years. It's not clear. But one would think if you're worshipping Satan, you are violating, you know, a sin that's not going to be forgiven because it's only those who take the mark and worship antichrist or Satan in the last three and a half years and the fallen angels that are going to go to the lake of fire and burn forever.

What happens to all these creatures? how do most of them get wiped out? Is it just the flood? Are we killing them? Are human beings in their hearts know these things are evil and we're going after them and we're hunting them down? What do you think about that? I think we have a long history showing that they were hunting nephalum

and other creatures throughout history, and they became fewer and fewer and fewer. And even in North America, where you have the legacy of the red-headed giants and the Native Americans, they were at odds and war just as you go down through South America. I would lend that to the other groups as well, because typically associating with any of those groups after a while doesn't turn out well for humankind. Yeah.

So, I mean, it may start off well, but typically it doesn't. And so the only places where these beings can seemingly exist in the physical world would be in isolated locations like in mountains and in caves and also understanding that mountains and caves are always intricately linked with portals just as people think that Bigfoot disappears through portals to the other side just as fairies come through fairy mounds and fairy domins and the word domen is means portal and if you google d o l me and you're going to get these like this mini sort of uh stone hinge type of figure pops up. These are all over the world. Just as at Gilgal Raphaim, which is the wheel of the Giants or the Wheel of the Spirits, and it's got a few different names, that's on the

Golan Heights at the foot of Mount Hermann was one of the most holy polytheist sites after the flood. And of course, the Raphaim are giants. It has hundreds of portals and domans within that site. And this is where the Eucharitic text talks about the Raphaim kings as being the travelers from going to one side to the other side. Why is there such a huge group of people who don't see any of this? And also, like, what's happening there? Are they just ignorant or is there something else going on? Why is some people say, why does Jesus not talk about any of this stuff? And some people say, well, he does.

You just don't realize it. What do you think about all that? Well, I would say that a number of things to that is that let's start with Jesus and work back in terms of an unpack what you were talking about. So, you know, Jesus actually goes to Sassarra Philippi to Mount Hermann and to the Rock of the Gods or the Gate of Hades, where the Pan Temple is, where the Beal Temple is, and announces there that he's going to build his church with Peter and the disciples, right? On this rock, he says. On this rock, yeah. So he clearly goes there. And again, I have a couple of good documents on that and a couple, several good documents

on Mount Hermon and everything that's going on there. But he does recognize that. He's dealing with the demons, right? And they're afraid that he's going to send them with the Legion ones to the lake of fire before their time, right, or to the abyss. And so all of this is in play. He's dealing with Satan in the desert who is offering him at his most weakest point all of the kingdoms of the world that he controls. It's there if you're looking for.

But people have been brainwashed not to look for it. They've been given stories, whether it's about giants aren't real, or let's not talk about prophecy, or that's not talk about prehistory. They've been dumbed down to not look for it and accept another possible pounded in concept and belief systems. So they're taught to reject those. types of things. And you have to want to wake up from that. Otherwise, you'll just continue to dismiss it. You'll continue to suppress it. They control the schools. They control the media. They control the education. They control the literature. They control the entertainment. They control the news. And they continually brainwash people because what they really don't want, particularly in this age

of education, where you don't have that feudal system that they used to have set up, which I think they're trying to recreate so they can really more effectively dumb down the level of understanding is they don't want people to realize that their whole hierarchy and organizational structure of society was created by these monsters. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, you see it.

You see it big time now. I mean, I have never seen so many people either shaming people for sharing conspiracy theories or sharing conspiracy theories. It's like there's a huge camp of people. who are, you know, like QAnon conspiracy's gone mainstream. Everyone's tweeting about it. Yeah. Facebook's shutting it down.

I mean, the whole world, I think in 2020 is waking up that, yeah, maybe stuff's not what I always thought it was. Is there a danger there, though? Like, are we going to believe anything and everything? Well, we do today. How do you know you go too far? Well, this is all about how things are designed to play out. So, and it has to play out.

And understand that we don't control the world. The god of this world is Satan, and it's controlled by the Council of Gods and the 70 original nations that have assigned a hierarchical god to each of those 70 nations. And the Nephilim were created to run the government and the kingships. And the priest class to control the polytheist religion and their larger family to be the elite and the nobility so that the humans would serve them. Right. That's what was created. So they're going to keep that information dumb down. They're going to give you misinformation to sort of discredit anybody getting too close and to what they're actually wanting to do until they're ready to spring this information on the world. They want to be in control of how that comes about. They know they have a date with destiny. They want that date with destiny, but they need to get there first. and it's always Christianity for the most part that is their greatest enemy not that the other two monotheist religions aren't huge obstacles but it's that jesus deification aspect that makes christianity the biggest foe and the most difficult to deceive so they need to prepare christianity and then destroy it from within and de-deify jesus to bring about that run with destiny that they want to bring about, which permits the universal religion, which brings the Ten King government, which brings along the Dragon Messiah, that they want to present

from their bloodlines. Are all leaders on a side? For the most part, I mean, it's too hard to research all of them, but typically you're going to have leaders presented to you, which are all of the same belief system and all directions. globalists in trying to bring about the new world order that I like to call the Nufflam world order and the Ten King Empire that's which is a series of groups of nations or spheres of influence or trading blocks whatever you want to call them that are going to form the end time world empire so you got like all of these groups like NAFTA and EEC those would

be those types of groups of nations and typically that goes back to also what the Club of Rome was created to do in the late 60s, which they divided the world up, you guessed it, into 10 groups of nations. And they want to bring forward the allegory of the new Atlantis that Francis Bacon or Rosicrucian wrote, which is the 10, and if you know anything about Atlantean history that comes through Plato in Timaeus and Cretaceous, there was 10 Nephilim kings that were thought to be the helm of civilization and world government in the antidote. living world before they were destroyed. And so that's what they're trying to bring back again. So, yeah, I mean, it is all sort of designed to have this come about, but in a way that they want

to bring it about. And with the timing that they want to bring it about. And so they're going to control that knowledge. Gary, do you think we are in the days of Noah, as the prophecy talks, about again. And do you think that we'll see an incursion or an uptick in sightings of creatures and

the unexplained because the scriptures say that the end times will be like the days of Noah? Yeah, and that's a very and a lot of people will look at that and say well, he's just talking about people weren't expecting the end and the violence that went on.

And they like to sort of encapsulate that. but it follows the fig tree generation. And so you get two macro signs after all of the birth pang signs and all the details in the chronology of the events that Jesus provides. And Jesus being the Word of God and the Spirit of Prophecy, which chooses words perfectly and accurately. And so if you go back to Genesis 928 to 29, where it encapsulates the life of Noah it says in the days of Noah was right so he's using those exact same words even though that was recorded in Greek and the Old Testament was recorded in Hebrew the words are identical meaning

the same thing so he chose that for a reason and it says in in chapter 9 that Noah lived 600 years before the flood and 350 years after the flood and those what the days are going to look like so we have to look at what happened in the life of Noah what happened with the flood, what happened with the giants, what happened with Babel, what happened with Sodom, and understand that all of this is going to be like the days of Noah. And that's why the Babylon religion is a post-eluvian event allegory with the Babel religion where you have an antichrist type figure with a polytheist religion, which is the analogy for the end time. So we need to understand that because nothing new is under the sun. Now, in terms of,

The macro application to that, you have the fig tree generation. So a generation in the Psalms is 70 years or in Genesis 6.3 would be 120 years. We don't know whether it goes to the extent of either one of those two numbers or which number it is. And all end-time prophecy is centered around the southern kingdom of Judah controlling Jerusalem, as opposed to the creation of the state of Israel, which creates that opportunity, which happened in 1967. So I would look for that as being the countdown of the fig tree generation, and we're in the birth pangs of that, which are earthquakes, rumors of war, pestilence, and pandemics. And those will get stronger and stronger as you get to the time of the opening of the seals. So, yes, I do believe from that, that we would be in that last generation simply because we don't get two sets of prophecies where the Southern Kingdom is going to come back.

And to have, you can't have conflict and prophecy. So it's got to come together, and that seems to be the only way that that comes together. So having said all of that, as we close in on the end time, we have to see more of these things coming about. Yeah. It's amazing how Bigfoot can lead you to the end of the world, right? Like, if you follow it logically, it's all connected. It's weird. It's like some people are just like, you know, some of my friends can, they're open-minded to the supernatural stuff, listening to the show, and they're like, I got a little, got a little biblical in that last one, you know, and I'm like, well, you know, Bible and Bigfoot, they go together. I don't know how to explain it, but they just do. So, you know, it sounds like DNA wars. You have wars of DNA going all the way back to the dawn of time. Is, what about some of these other creatures? Is salvation extended to these creatures? Can Nephilim choose God's side, or are they just permanently doomed? and we have, you make it sound like we're going to be presented with a DNA upgrade at some point. And if we take the DNA upgrade, we have converted ourselves to... Well, I think you violated a law of creation. And I think when you do that, you're doing a loyalty and a worship to the other side.

And I think that's sort of where you cross the Rubicon river, so to speak, right? That's the, that's the line in the sand. So, but DNA manipulation is going to be, I think, more and more involved. in terms of being delivered through the healthcare system. It's much more efficient to have implants delivering with AI, things automatically, and that tends to work at the genetic level and the subatomic level. So that would make some sense. I would also say that if you are going to try and prepare the world to stand up against the God of the Bible, that they will classify as something like the dark side of the force and the forces in Star Wars,

you are going to have to convince people you have a chance to win. And so it's one thing to have angels or aliens with fantastic weapons and technology. They have to develop that with us so that we can join them in that fight for freedom, is how it will be pitched. And so they need to rapidly advance that knowledge, which I think we've been going through. and I think they need and want to have Camara-type creations for war. So when you get to Revelation 9 and the 200 million man war, which happens just before the midpoint of the last seven years,

and match that up with Joel 1 and 2 in the Gog War of Ezekiel 38 and 39, Gog being a giant and Magog of the land of giants, where both giants in the Greek pantheon of offspring of either Poseidon or Iopatist, again, depending on which account that you're reading, you have these creatures that are clearly Camara, right? You know, different bodies and heads and things like that. And I think they're going to be creating those with these new weapons of war and other technology that will give an appearance that we can stand up.

Humans can stand up with them. against the God of the Bible and his angels. And I also think they're creating technology through clone bodies and other possible things that you could create a habitation for the demon spirits so they can join that battle in the physical world and have a dwelling place for their spirit. And so I think that technology is being developed for that as well.

And you have in Revelation 9, which happens just before the midpoint of the last seven years, an opening of the abyss. We have all of the imprisoned angels and all of the Raphaim and Nephilim kings, which Ezekiel 31 and 32, talks about being imprisoned along the sides of the abyss, or as the creatures that are described in the Pistosophia,

if anybody ever wants to read that or wants to get hold of me, I'll send you to the short version of that, that describes all of these ancient angelic beings and all those different lion-type creatures and serpent-type creatures. creatures and things that are in the abyss are coming out just before the midpoint of the last seven years and just before you have the war in heaven in Revelation 12. Well, all of them will be cast down to the earth at that time.

And so you have fallen angels who aren't in the abyss and demons that aren't in the abyss who are working around the outer edges to help bring the world along until the seals are open and then they can bring on the Rodneyed Voo with destiny. It's a lot to take in. Do you think that when God said the Noah's Ark and he takes his creatures, he puts them on the Ark, all the other ones, all the Chimeric creatures are destroyed because they're crossbreeds, they're flesh-eating animals? Is everything that comes from God a pure, loving, there's just a spirit about it that's

not carnivorous. Not necessarily that, no. Because you've got two types of animals. You've got clean, which is taken on with seven pairs, and unclean, which is two pairs, or one pair that go on the ark. So obviously you've got the vegetation eaters, which aren't eating dead things that are clean, and then the other ones which include the carnivores.

and they're called to the ark by God, not Noah. Those words when it says, as God commanded him, him and he are inserted there. There's no Hebrew word there. God commands the animals to come to the earth, and he's only calling representatives or a kind or a species that represents the animals that are going to repopulate on the earth. So not every variation of every horse, for example.

or whatever, just ones that are required to repopulate. He doesn't call the chimera. He doesn't call the unicorn, which is like a chimera, right? It has like goats, hooves, and it has a lion's tail. And depending on which version, whether it's a horse's body or, you know, a different kind of head, this mythos of this animal that was used for Nephilim to ride on going into battle, because it needed to be bigger than a normal horse. And it had a horn that could kill an elephant and rip its stomach right out with one thrust.

It was ideally designed for the Nephilim for battle. It doesn't get called to the earth. So just like the Nephilim, they're gone at the flood, and so are the unicorn. And I would say all of the animals that were created that were either, not saved by the fallen angels or somehow recreated again after the flood, right? So it's designed to get rid of all of those atoms. This unicorn thing is crazy.

Because we see them all over like little kid stuff now and you're like, oh, this is actually like a warhorse for a nephalium that was meant to friggin destroy elephants. Okay. And it's on the coat of arms like with the Hanover dynasty and the Stuart dynasty and the British dynasty, just as a lion is. and again that's also another kind of nephaline like this. And usually the unicorn has this S-shaped chain attached to it, which usually goes back to Azazel,

as Azazel is shown in Rosalin hanging upside down with an inverted Z or an S, representative of either being hung in Orion as the occult likes to believe and or in the abyss as Enoch in the Bible would suggest. And so this unicorn is a single horn. word that is inserted into the Bible for the Hebrew word REM, which is wild bull or ox. And so this is done at the time of King James and Bacon again. And what's interesting about that is King James called himself the mighty King James.

Notice underlying mighty goes back to describing Raphaine with Atsem and being very powerful and or gibberim for the Nephilim. There's no coincidence. And he also wrote the book Demonology, which again, I won't go too far. down on this rabbit trail, that's sticking with the unicorn. This is also, I think, in preparation for the brainwashing for the end time, because Antichrist comes out of the ten-horned empire as the little horn rising. And that's out of Daniel 7 and then out of Daniel 8, you have the horn of the goat,

which is Greece. And out of that one-horn goat will rise the Antichrist in the end time. and so I think they're setting us up with that insertion of that word for how they're going to usurp the Bible to say it supports the dragon Messiah for the end time. It's like a replacement, right? It's like it's not, it's just a counterfeit. Yeah, it's a counterfeit. Because a lot of people think, oh, yeah, it'll be obvious. We'll see it, we'll know it's coming.

No, you won't. And it's like, no, it'll look and smell like the real thing. No, because there will be other antichrist. So Gog, as I talked about, Ezekiel 38 and 39, that Gog war, which is Joel 1 and 2 in the Revelation 9, 200 million man war. Gog, when you take that back to Greek in the New Testament, is not only based on the Old Testament word for Gog, out of Hebrew, but it also is an allegory in Greek for an Antichrist future figure, right? So you have Revelation 9 being opened. You have possibly all of these demons and giants that are going to have bodies and things. And then you have this Armageddon-like war, which I would call the counterfeit Armageddon,

just before the midpoint of the last seven years that this anti-Christ figure that I talked about is the unicorn figure of Daniel 7 and 8 will take credit for winning and will seal his as one of his main. credentials as coming back on a counterfeit Armageddon. Wow. And how do you how do you defend yourself from all this? There's a lot of people to say that they you know when they go out and even look for Bigfoot that they have they spiritually prepare because you don't know what you're dealing with. Is there is a lot of people have really scary encounters. Whether it's abductions, people go missing for two weeks and then they mysteriously show up. They don't remember what happened. werewolf creatures come around, they're haunting graveyards. There's some association there of people being manipulated and attacked. How do you defend yourself?

You want to be very, very careful because if you understand that there's, you know, the good side and the bad side, and I'm not from my perspective using that in that dualistic polytheist, because one side wins in the monothea side, as opposed to perpetual war. Yeah. And if you also understand that seemingly, you have to let your guard down and let them in. And you get all of that allegory that's coming out throughout history and throughout literature. So let's say with a vampire, which is Dracula, which goes back to Dragon, drinking of blood. It's an allegory for the patriarchal bloodline of the Nepali, just as Prince Charles takes his genealogy back to Vladia Baylor. I'm going down another rabbit hole. I'll get back on track here.

I love it. Love. You have to invite those beings in or let down your guard to let them come in. So if you're going out to meet them, you better have your spiritual armor on so you don't let them in. This possession aspect is not a symbiotic relationship. It's not an avatar-av-a-relationship. And when I talk about that, it's like Shiva or Vishnu as being an avatar with a symbiotic relationship with a human being that would be like Buddha. or Naroshima, which is the lion god, which Aslan and Narnia was based on as an incarnation. Demon possession, and just as Satan entered into Judas as the avatar of Judas the avatar

to help Judas over the threshold to betray Jesus, right? And possibly even within a cache that Satan would have entered in the serpent to betray and lead Evestray and Adamestray. So we have biblical examples of an avatar, which is a symbiotic relationship, which I think Antichrist will have because he receives his power from the dragon and or Azizal, which I think is a bad in Apollion, which is another rabbit hole. But you have this aspect of demon possession, which is not symbiotic. It suppresses the host, and it manifests itself in all sorts of horrible violence and war going on within that. body with the stronger spiritual being until it's being removed. So you want to be careful that

you're not opening yourself up to that. So when people will say, well, how do the people in the occult let these things in? Well, some of them, it doesn't work out very, very well. But if it's an angelic being, it's going to be more of a symbiotic relationship. Do you think all this is going to come on the backs? I mean, it sounds like the end of times is going to be like this, this religion. Is it coming out of the Catholic Church? I mean, are we going to be? going that far? Do you think that, like, they're the biggest organization in the world. It seems like there's many stories of them hiding giant bones and other things. I don't think everyone is corrupted inside of it, but is it compromised? Are some of these, are all institutions compromised, I guess?

Yeah, I think they all are, and particularly at the leadership level and controlling the seminary schools because they all don't want to teach about giants and prehistory. They don't want to teach about about prophecy. So I think they're compromised from that perspective. So we need to be careful of the leadership. They also, along with the Rosicrucians and the Secret Societies and the Freemasons have the two largest storehouses of history, which includes all sorts of things like those bones. And they keep, and so I think, yeah, they have that information. I also think, and again, a lot of people will disagree with me. but if we look at who the end-time religion is, is they are a universal religion,

as the allegory is defined within the Bible suggests, based on what happened at Babel. So it is a religion. It is a universal religion, as you'll sit on all the waters, and we'll bring about the tanking empire, but it's also a powerful organization and a city. Oh, right?

Yeah. And so a lot of people will say New York is the ancient city. Well, it's not an ancient city, So it has to be an older city than that. Or some people will say the U.S. is Babylon, but it's still got to be a city. I think it says in Revelation 17 and 18, it's a city like nine or ten times. So it's clearly a city that's going to be destroyed by Antichrist at the midpoint. But I also think that we have to understand the other details where it says that it sits on seven hills,

which the Vatican does. and that the Templars, who were a Gnostic organization created within Catholic Church by Gnostic monotheist organizations like the Sisterians and the Benedictines who had a couple members of the original Knights Templar and also understand that there are all of the bloodlines, including the Anjou and Dupéan and Dubelian were part of that bloodline out of Lorraine. you have that organization that set as part of their doctrine as set down in their charter and written and recorded by the master ronsolin and i have that for people if they want it that they wanted to take over the catholic church to create the new babylon quote unquote new babylon

and so that was in line with setting up their new atlantis and their new world order with this universal religion. And then the Jesuits were created by the secret societies after the Templars were taken down. And they were actually called the new Templars to do the same thing. So I think everything is pointing towards getting control of the Catholic Church, changing it, changing its doctrine, but they're also going to need more to envelop Christianity in Protestant movement as well as the other religions around the world. So they're going to need false prophets and they're going to need predictions of catastrophe to convert to the one world religion, which I think probably connects back to all of the merry apparitions and then the six

who have been initiated out of Medjugory in the 90s with a set date to come out with those prophecies of doom. Understanding that, Pope Francis has fully recognized most of the visions at Medjugoria now. Wow. So to wrap this up, there could be eventually all these chimerical creatures could come back. There's going to be some sort of supernatural event where there's a physical war going on with creatures, humans, a dogfight to the end. You know, like Bigfoot could come out and war with the other side kind of thing. Like, is that the, is that a thought? Well, I think what's going to happen is there has to be.

that encounter of the fourth kind, right, where you have an introduction of the whole alien mythos of all these different kinds of aliens that are fighting against the evil God of the Bible, right? So the most plausible way of doing that is introduce these beings as being from other planets as opposed to other dimensions. And again, as in Dr. Strange, where you have, in the movies, where you have them trying to win the earth as this sort of one bastion against the dark lords of the universe and win a treaty to do that. That's what Isaiah 14 was talking about, to have a realm of their own, away from God and not ruled by God, as Isaiah 14 talks about. That's what they're fighting for. So you're going to have these creatures that are introduced as all beings that have been fighting this perpetual war like in Star Wars

against the evil empire with this mystical religion, which Star Wars, Jedi's have. And, of course, that's all allegories laid over and throughout Star Wars, whether or not it's Anakin, which is, as I mentioned, Anakeem, or Luke Skywalker, which really comes out of North mythology as... Loki? Loki, that's the one. Thank you for clarifying, it's not a Luke. Because I don't, you know, I don't need that. So just to make that sort of clear that that's how they're going to set it up.

And they're going to have these wonderful weapons. And again, that's why we are being fast-tracked, I think, with the technology to be able to make that stand and fight with them. So, yeah, you're going to be introduced to all of these creatures in a different format than the mythos has had for them, right? But it kept that tradition alive. And people will say, okay, that makes sense. Luke, and it's funny, some people don't even believe in Bigfoot, let alone any of this other stuff. So, I mean, people have a long way to go. I mean, hopefully by now our listeners have been introduced to the crazy world. It's like the movie The Matrix. I keep thinking about the Matrix. We're all asleep in this system that's created by the entities. And when you decide to come out of it and see what's actually going on, it's not pretty. It's a little frightening. It's a little scary.

Well, and the Matrix is a wonderful allegory of that same belief system where the physical world is this projection, and humans are enslaved in ignorance and are asleep. And all of the figures, whether or not it's the Mervingians that are in there, you know, come out of their history, or Morpheus, which is the god of sleep and of dreams. I mean, all of this is based on their history, and I won't go through all of it. But once you understand the language that they talk, you'll understand what they're communicating in their literature that strikes a deeper level of meaning for the adepts. So what it sounds like to me, let me just say this, is everything I'm hearing is that we're looking forward or we're looking at a future that is a combination of the Matrix, Star Wars, Harry and the Henderson's Independence Day. Right. Yes. And the fairy tale is just the surface narrative.

and you need to understand the characters and the allegories that are in there to understand the real story. And that's how they're going to portray the Bible in the end time, that you need to be using the interpretive approach and an adept polytheism to understand what the Bible really means, and they're going to change the meaning of the Bible in the end time. Wow, wow. My last question for you is, of all the chimerical creatures and all the things you've heard, What is the one that you think is the most credible or the most fascinating to you?

I like the epic of Gilgamesh. It's just such a fascinating story. And we don't obviously have all of it, but we've got parts of all 12 tablets. But in it holds so much, including talking about Mount Herman with King Hibata, who's a Camara-type king of the Cedar Forest, right? who Gilgamesh, who is two-thirds God and one-third human, and is created after the flood. And then Enkidu, or Anikedin, depending which translation you're talking about, is also created two-thirds God, one-third human, after the flood to offset the evilness of Gilgamesh, but they soon become friends.

They go and kill King Hibata of the Cedar Forest on Mount Hermann, who is known as the terrible one to bring about all sorts of destruction and horrible things to humankind. They're going to kill him. And he has, oh, just unbelievable, you'll Google all the different things that he's kind of got these different parts on. And what's interesting about that, that is at Mount Hermann. And Ezekiel 31, 32, Isaiah 14 and other chapters talks about the terrible ones and the branch of the terrible ones in Isaiah 25. So you get starting a linkage of this Raphaim branches after the flood. But within the epic of Gilgamesh story, you will, have the story of the flood story with Upniphton or Zayazudra again, depending on which

translation you're referring to. And he is the archetypical nephalum figure before the flood, two-thirds God, one-third human, and all of his family. So you get a survival story of giants and you get a recreation of giants within the Aukhukhik of Gilgamesh various stories and a whole bunch of other stuff. And that is more of a real sort of accounting as a parallel story of the flood as opposed to fictional writing. If you're asking me about fictional writing, although I do understand some people might say, Epic of Gilgames just might be a legend and a mythology. I get that. I would probably say I really like, you know, a few of them. I like the matrix with all of the allegories and things that they've got in there. But, you know, the Narnia tales are just so

explosive with so much genealogy, so much history, and it's been targeted, which also has my fascination to the children. And so, I mean, everything that's in there is about occult history. You know, you even have satires in there for crying out loud, which are goat gods, right? Mr. Timness, for example. And also like Star Wars, because that's loaded with a lot of allegory as well and more about their religions. So there's, I mean, they have a lot of great writing and a lot of great storytelling. So they're very gifted at that. But I'm also, when I'm reading any of it, I'm looking as much for what else are they putting in here that I need to be aware of. My mind is just like swimming with the ancient world with centaurs, fawn, sirens, sphinx, fairies, werewolves, all these creatures

running around. You have giants, various sizes, different types, different breeds, gods, fallen angels. We certainly do live in kind of a boring time. Back then, it must have been a little more interesting. You had a lot going on. Where can our listeners find you and get involved with what you're doing? And what are your plans for the future? Well, if people want to get a hold of me or get a copy of my book, the best location to go to is my website. And that's the Genesis6Conspiracy.com with the number six conspiracy.com.

And my email address, or you can get a hold of me through the website, you know, contact the author is Genesis 6 Conspiracy at gmail.com. So it's basically this the Gmail address to the website. And if you want any information or ask me a question, and I have documents on a lot of things that we're talking about today. So if people want a deeper set of information on that, get a hold of me through the website. Also on the website, I have a generous exercise.

all 98 chapters. So you'll get a good feel for the book, whether or not it's the book for you or not. If you want to buy a signed copy, you can get one off the website, or you can link over to parnsanoble.com, Amazon.com, or the Kindle version. And it's also available on other online websites. And it's available through your store, whether it's on the shelf or not. They can order it through bookmasters out of Pennsylvania if you want to support your local bookstore. You can also get a hold of me under Facebook under Gary Wayne and message me there or in my group, Gary Wayne and the Genesis Sixth conspiracy. You can join that group and ask questions or on Twitter at Jerry Wayne 63 at Gary Wayne 63. If you ask me a question or wanting a document, I will get back to you.

Yeah, and if you're Nate's grandma, make sure you get a hold of Gary. I don't know if she knows that a, I don't know if she knows how to download a podcast, but she sure is heck, she still mows her lawn and she still reads about the Giants. And her mind is open and ready. And we hope that all you guys listening, your minds are there too, to see all this stuff for the first time maybe. Gary, fascinating. We'll have to have you back on. Keep going.

Learn more about these creatures of the old days. Have a good day. Thank you, Gary. Yeah. Perfect. Thank you for having me. Awesome. It's been fun.