Blurry Creatures - EP: 196 War of Frequencies with Dr. Laura Sanger

Episode Date: October 4, 2023

We welcome back Blurry Creatures fan favorite, author, and lecturer Dr. Laura Sanger to discuss frequencies and the invisible war we may not know we're engaged in. Are there destructive frequencies? Does the tuning of our music matter? Dr. Laura unwraps how we have been given the creative ability to release the sound of God, the frequency and vibration that resonates His image. Why is 444Hz such an important frequency? Tune in to find out.  Intro Song: Timelapse by Timecop 1983  Guest: https://nolongerenslaved.com [e-mail] blurrycreatures.com Socials www.instagram.com/blurrycreatures www.facebook.com/blurrycreatures www.twitter.com/blurrycreatures Music Kyle Monroe: www.tinytaperoom.com Aaron Green: https://www.instagram.com/aaronkgreen/ Mastering: Brandon Weaver https://ironwingstudios.com Outro Song: TimeCop1983: www.timecop1983.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Just cover the shipping. Go to Rough Greens.com and use discount code blurry. That's RUFFF Greens.com discount code blurry. Rough Greens makes any dog food better. And not only that, he's taught the angels how to sing so that music could be. part of the very creative work in establishing earth. We know that from Job 384 through 7, which says, Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell me if you understand, who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know, who stretched a measuring line across it, on what were its

footing set? Or who laid its cornerstone while the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy. So here we see that the morning stars sang together. So this implies that there was an ensemble. There was an orchestration of music among the heavenly beings. And so music was incorporated in the birthing of creation. And this is music's original intent. The history of our earth is so different from what we can imagine. Joy to join. The Smithsonian. If they found out of about a large skeleton somewhere was to go get it. I'm going to assume at least one person is right, because if one person's right and bust the paradigm,

it all goes back to the fallen chair. And the problem with the modern day church, they have a very truncated view of the supernatural. This backdrop that's just pregnant with all kinds of meaning associated with this Mount Herman event. And this guy defects from the kingdom. That's a big deal. Welcome back to the podcast, our second mother now, Luke.

Yes. Dr. Laura Sanger. She is, she's a fan favorite, author of Roots of the Federal Reserve, which is how we found you a couple years ago. On Amazon. We had no idea what we were getting ourselves into, Luke. Yeah, and I'd say for Laura, too, like. She didn't either. Like, no, no, she's like the cool aunt.

You can't be, we're too old for her to be our mom. She's too young. She's too young for that. I want to give her that credit. But very, very much like the super cool aunt that also is like very wise. Oh, cousin. It's the motherly. The cousin.

Yeah. Or like a very wise sister. Yeah, not age wise. I was more thinking like the wisdom of your mom. Your mom calls you and be like, listen. That of course. Listen, Luke. Listen, Luke.

You clean it up, Luke. I've been praying, Luke. And you need to do this. And you're like, okay, mom. I know. I know I need to. That's how my mom is too. Yeah.

So I get that. All right. So good. We cleared that up more. It wasn't about age. It wasn't a slight, I promise. Not at all. Yeah, because Tom is also way too young to be.

Tom's like a brother as well. Okay, we've run out of runway on this. Well, welcome back to the show. Thank you for coming on. We always have interesting topics to talk about. You bring that female voice to the blurry verse, so to speak. And you have a lot of, I love your, I love your, I love the way your mind works. I love the way we explore topics that are kind of outside.

They're in the blurry verse, but it's kind of weird how blurry creatures has expanded to a lot of things. I don't think Luke and I had any idea that we would be getting into. I think we were talking about creatures and Bigfoot and stuff like that. And I think you introduced our listeners and really helped our show take a different trajectory to involve some sort of out-of-the-box topics that I think that nobody wants to talk about. A lot of the church doesn't want to talk about these things. There's more than just giants roaming around in remote parts of the world or ancient history. They were everywhere. There is this seed war that continues to this day. We've talked about that on a lot of episodes. But today, you know, you were in Nashville, meeting with a lot of

worship leaders. Yeah, last month. Yeah. Yeah. This whole topic of music. We got to hang with you. Yeah. Sorry, Nate. But yeah. And Laura was out here by popular demand. And we got to spend some time in Columbia, Tennessee with you and some fantastic people that are writing and producing a lot of the worship and praise music that we all listen to at church and potentially on the radio. People listen to the radio anymore. I know that sounds antiquated. Oh, they do. They do.

But we got to spend some time with you and your wonderful husband, Tom, and Zachariah, and we were having this conversation. This is something you spoke about to these influential people in the Christian music and worship space. And as we were talking, I know at dinner especially, because we all had to have dinner, our families and your family. And we were talking about, you know, the importance of music. And, you know, and I know we've touched on this. What I love about this is it feels like also appropriate in the sense of we've touched

on a few of these topics already. And some of our discussions with you when we talk about, you know, frequencies and the Nephilim agenda. And as Nate said, the Seed War. And this is really going to be interesting because as Nate said, like we, this is all tied in. It doesn't come down, barreling down the freeway, like a Bigfoot. You know, it's not so much creature.

It's very much affiliated with the agenda of surrounding a lot of things that we talk about. And, you know, fascinatingly enough, there are a lot of folks in the music space that your blurry. Yeah, it's the best way to put it. Your work has resonated with. And then also, you know, this little vehicle, Nate and I are. part of it has resonated and I mean it's so humbling and also fascinating and so we were having discussion at dinner it's a long way of getting there about this and we said this should be a podcast

this is there's enough here there's a lot here and so it's great to have you back dr. Loris Sanger yeah in the friendly confines of the blurry verse here we hope you can break down Luke's ringtone today on his phone so tell us uh interpretation of yeah exactly Luke's is full 80s on his ringtone. And if you've seen the Wham documentary that's that's on Netflix currently, it makes a lot of sense, you know. Careless Whisper. Careless Whisper.

Those you know. As you know, my wife is so embarrassed every time I forget to turn my volume off of my phone. And it happens to ring in public that the saxophone solo from Careless Whisper is, is belting out wherever we are. That's great. I love it. Well, thanks for having me again, guys. And it was one of those most amazing times in Nashville.

We gathered, I think there may have been like 16 of us that first day. We gathered for two days with, you know, musicians, as you said, Luke, songwriters, worshipers, music producer, a vocal coach. And it was, you know, it was one of those times that was just divinely orchestrated. And we recognized kind of even before it began, it was miraculous that all of us had time in our schedule because we planned this like two months prior. So it wasn't like we had blocked this out on our schedule for months leading up to it. But the Lord just divinely orchestrated this gathering of musicians. And I think one of the things that's so exciting to me is that these

musicians, these worshippers are really beginning to grasp the significance of the times that we're living in. And they can see how brazen the enemy is. Like, Like evil is out there in the open. And so they feel this responsibility to write songs that will give believers the words to fight these spiritual forces of darkness. And so it just was so amazing to be all together. And I've had many conversations since our gathering. And, you know, people have described it as like the sacred conclave. Those that are, you know, Lord of the Ring fans, they described it as the.

counsel of Elrond. And then also another guy described it as the gathering of the knights of the roundtable. And so here we were, you know, we recognized that the Lord had summoned all of us. And we gathered in the basement of this old Presbyterian church in Columbia, Tennessee. And the Lord was calling us or is calling us to the front line in this battle to slay the giants. And so it was a momentous occasion. And I think we all recognize that because, you know, music has long been the battleground for the souls of people. And I think it's time that we consider the role of music in the Seed War. And, you know, that requires going back and looking at the origins of music.

It's funny because a lot of people will send us things about frequencies, videos. You know, there's all these tests when you can actually visually see, like a different frequency, what it will do? Like I remember early on in our show, Luke, we posted a video, this guy that had like this flat plate and put sand on it and he just would kind of turn it and all the different shapes frequencies would make. And we were just in Peru, we were talking about these things and this idea of frequencies and resonance and how the ancient people understood it and how sound was such a dynamic

part of their culture. There was healing places where they would, they would play sound, they say, and they would resonate in these stone structures and people would come for fertility, healing, all sorts of weird stuff that was associated. How they created some of these megalithic structures was probably sound. It's something we can't escape on our podcast, even though it's not directly, you know, related to any creature specifically. It is a knowledge that they all had. I think we kind of, We kind of don't know a lot about it, but here we are, most of us, mesmerized by music when we listen to it. I was in a band for a decade, and I could feel the power of music.

I remember there's just these, there were certain artists that you were side stage watching, and it just felt like something was happening in the crowd when these songs specifically were played, how people responded to them. But we were talking about tuning when I actually thought it was interesting. And Nate, we've also on the show talked about, like we the Travis Scott Astro World, right? So this idea that there are things that happen in these concerts and with music that, you know, there's this whole experience people had at Astro World where there was, it felt like a ritual. And they believe it was like there was imagery of portals opening. And then all you have to do is look at some of the things that are coming out of certain shows that are happening across the country right now.

There's a lot of people with weird experiences of Taylor Swift. And people are going to hate that because there's a lot of Taylor Swift fans out there and understand that. But there's weird things that are happening around artists and things there. doing and the imagery and ritual and while we've talked a lot about that, I'm excited today to kind of dive into the frequency. So what's happening on that level as well. But this is not, this is, this is a great cap or capping to a lot of, you know, sort of ancillary conversations we've had around this space to really dive in. So I'm excited, Dr. Laura. Yeah. And I think all that you're saying, it really points to the importance of, you know, we need to be aware of how music is being used and weaponized

against us. And so to think about the origins of music, you know, the first recorded musician in human history is Jubal. And he was the eighth generation from Adam. And he was in the bloodline of Kane. Now, his father was Lamek. And Lamek was the first polygamist. And so Lamek, he operated under the same murderous spirit as Kane. And I want to read Genesis 4, 23 and 24. It says Lamek said to his wives, Adah and Zilla, listen to me, wives of Lamek, hear my words, I have killed a man for wounding me, a young man for injuring me. If Cain is avenged seven times, then Lamek 77 times. So here we see that Lamek perpetuated this generational iniquity of Cain.

You know, he was walking in pride, rebellion, and murder. And there's no indication that his bloodline was cleansed through repentance. So Jibal would have been walking under that same genuble. generational iniquity. In Genesis 421 says, his brother's name was Jubal. He was the father of all who play the harp and flute. So you know me, I love to dig into the etymology of words. So Jubal's name, it means stream, and it comes from the Hebrew root word, Yabal, which means to conduct, to bring forth with pomp and to lead. And it's the same root word where we get the Hebrew word for trumpet and for Jubilee.

And so Jubal was known as the inventor of musical instruments. So here we have from a defiled bloodline, music enters human history. Now, we know that this isn't the origin of music because we know that music existed in heaven. In fact, Lucifer's very design incorporated music. And I'll read portions of Ezekiel 28. It says, you were the seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect and beauty. You were in Eden, the Garden of God. Every precious stone was your covering, the sardis, topaz, and diamond, barrel, onyx, and jasper, sapphire, turquoise, and emerald with gold. The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes was prepared for you on the day you were created. You were the anointed cherub who covers. I established you. You were on the holy mountain of God. You walked back and forth in the midst of the fiery stones. Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty. You were on the holy mountain of God. You were on the holy mountain of God. You walked back and forth in the midst of the fiery stones. Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty. You were. You were corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor. I cast you to the ground. I laid you before kings that

they may gaze at you. So one of the words in that passage is workmanship. And the Hebrew word for that is Malacca. And it means ministry. It means occupation and officer or manner of work. And so in other words, Lucifer was created with timbreels, which are tambourines, as part of his being, in order so that he could fulfill his role as worship minister or worship leader in heaven. And so his official role in heaven was to use music as that guardian cherub. But then he defiled himself with iniquity when pride was found in him. He had become so enamored with his own beauty that pride filled his heart. Well, thankfully, Lucifer is not also the originator of music. You know, we know from scripture that music originates from Elohim, the creator of all things. Music is part of Yahweh's being. And Zefaniah 317,

it says, the Lord your God is with you. He is mighty to save. He will take great delight in you. He will quiet you with his love. He will rejoice over you with singing. So here we see that the Lord sings over us. And not only that, he's taught the angels how to sing so that music could be part of the very creative work in establishing earth. And we know that from Job 384 through 7, which says, where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell me if you understand, who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know, who stretched a measuring line across it on what were its footings set? Or who laid its cornerstone while the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy? Sometimes it feels like when you get that phone bill, it's like,

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do you think that like this this music aspect of Satan is part of his like starts to get him to want to rebel there's some sort of something changes in him I like I always wonder in my own mind like what caused Satan to like flip and switch and turn against God and I don't know if it's related to that musical side of him but we don't get a lot of data there we just kind of know that it happened. And I just wonder if it's related because I think that's interesting. We just had an episode this last week. We talked about with Doug Van Dorn. We talked a lot about this, you know, this, this character that, you know, for lack of better words, doesn't really, is not very, there's not really a solid name given, but we know that he, he's behind all of this.

And I just wonder if some of the things he was doing started to slowly get him to turn, change. And do you think it's because it's affiliated with worship? Like, I mean, think about, like the idea that the elders are on the throne. And when we sing, you know, as Christians, and we sing in church, we sing in church to worship, right? And to me it sounds like as someone who was intimately involved in that process, that he wanted the singing for himself. Not for Yahweh. That was part of the idea of being worshipped, right? And then weaponizing that, right?

If at its core, singing was meant to exalt the king of kings. And that's what happens around the throne of God. And we know that from a number of places in the Bible. There are beings and elders and angels that sit around the throne or gather around the throne of God and sing, holy holy holy among other things right like so it's interesting because i think we there's such a it's one of those things in music that it's it's become sort of such a fabric of humanity and who we are and you like different types of music you listen to it when you drive and all you you go see this

and show to realize that the origins of itself were really meant to be to worship the creator and then it was and then it was corrupted which is really the story of a lot of things Well, I mean, in this topic specifically, you know, it's sort of a lived experience for me, you know, in my life. I've seen both sides of this. And I was always shocked, Laura, that how many people would, they would go through kind of hell and back again in their personal lives just to get that moment on stage every day. And it never made a lot of sense. The payoff was so great that they were willing to endure a chaotic life, messed up families. They missed every single part of like their friends and family's lives. They were gone all the time just to play music, just to do this one thing for half hour, hour and a half a night. It's like you're mesmerized. And hearing a crowd sing back your songs is something that it's hard to explain,

but there is sort of this like allure of it. Yes, absolutely. That even, I think Christians get sucked up into it as well. Because it's like, you know, and I remember thinking to myself, there was sort of this, I felt a conviction. Like, I don't know if I want to sing songs about, I just didn't know, like, how do I incorporate the things I believe and feel, but I don't want to manipulate people. I don't want to purposely write songs to spiritually tap into something that,

you know, it feels like a hijack. I'm kind of using music to get fame and fortune for myself. I'm not saying that Christians and every single Christian artist does this but I saw it. I saw Christian artists using that and I was conflicted. Like how do you have like a pure heart and worship and not get all the ego

and have it ruin you? So we just decided to stay out of the Christian music industry and just do our thing outside of it. That didn't mean our faith was different. It just was like we didn't want to be, it felt almost like I didn't want the temptation. Like if I was going to be a rock star, it was just on songs that we wrote.

I didn't want it to feel like, I'm using Jesus to get that or my faith to get that. And I don't know how much we want to put this in the show, but I've always been fascinated by those topics. I talked to a lot of Christian artists about it. It was always sort of underground. What is it about music? And we all endured so much just to get the opportunity to do it.

Well, I think what you're talking about, I mean, that is the lived experience of what, of what I'm sharing. And that is that, you know, sound and music has been the battleground for people's souls. So people were willing to sell their souls essentially to give up everything that is important to them in life just to hear people play their music back or sing their songs back to them, you know, that 30 minutes of fame and glory. And that is the trap that that Satan, and Lucifer fell into, and he wants every single one of us to fall into that same trap. And so, you know, when you think about sound frequencies have been used to create mass

hysteria and herd behavior for at least the past century, if not longer. And, you know, one of the things that's interesting to tie in here is, again, going back to this Nephilim agenda and the common characters in this, and that is the Roth Childs and the Rockefellers, you know, in the 1930s, they had this alliance in which they were funding scientific research examining how musical frequencies could steer the masses towards war. And so in 1938, there was a theatrical designer and sound engineer. His name is Harold Burroughs Meyer. And he began working on developing sound processing techniques for dramatic effects.

So more specifically, you know, his work involved using sound technology to control the emotional response of audiences and to create mass hysteria. And then Dr. Leonard Horowitz, you know, he writes a lot on this. And his book called The Book of Five28, Prosperity Key of Love, he says this. He says, the Rockefeller Foundation Archives showed their research is focused on psychotronic warfare, physiological stress induction, negative affect. emotional arousal, mass persuasion, herd behavior, and population control. People's bodies would bio-energetically entrain to the musical frequencies and electronically engineered sound effects

that would be most emotionally charged causing people to act in certain programmable ways. So it's no coincidence that the Rothschild and Rockefeller Alliance was figuring out ways to use sound technology to steer the masses when the standard tuning of A was switched to 440 hertz. And so in 1939, the Rockefeller and the Rothschild Black Ops, they funded Joseph Goebbels, who was the Nazi propagandist. And at the time, Rockefeller, he was aligned with IG Fairbun, which was, you know, the German chemical and pharmaceutical giant.

And together, they funded the buildup of Hitler's military. Well, at the same time, Joseph Goebbels of Radio Berlin, he organized a conference in London to change the standard tuning of A. See, up until that time, it had been determined that A would be tuned to 435 hertz, and that was determined at a conference in Vienna in 1889. But in 1939, Joseph Goebbels wanted to change the standard tuning of A to 440 hertz. And so Radio Berlin, as I mentioned, it reached out to the British Standard Association and requested that they organize a meeting to do just that, to change the standard tuning of A. And this meeting, no surprise, turned out to be a setup by the powers of that B to control the outcome. So first of all, they didn't invite any of the French musicians because at that time,

most of the French musicians were opposed to 440 hertz. And then the organizers of the conference, they interviewed ahead of time, all the physicists, the instrument makers, the musicians, and the sound engineers to see where they stood on 440 hertz. So those that opposed it weren't invited to the conference. So it's not a surprise that the results of the international standard tuning of A was changed to 440 hertz as a result of this conference. And that happened in June of 1939, just months before World War II broke out.

And so the timing was no coincidence. And that's because 440 Hertz is a destructive frequency. And what it does is it can retrain our thoughts towards disruption, disharmony, and disunity. And it stimulates our brain into this disharmonious resonance. And that actually can create disease and it can lead to life. war. And I want to give some examples from some research. And this is some recent research in 2021, both articles I'll share. The first one is in the Journal of Ecological Engineering. And so

what researchers did is they looked at the effects of sublethal and lethal high frequency sound exposure on water fleets. So they looked at 432 hertz and 440 hertz and the impact both of those frequencies had on fertility and on heart rate. And what they found is that the water fleas exposed to 440 hertz developed infertility and had a dramatic decrease in their heart rate. And even more alarming is that within weeks of the study, all the water fleas that were exposed to 440 hertz died. Now, another research in this one was done with humans.

this was the International Journal of Human Sciences, again, in 2021, they had people listen to music tuned to 432 hertz, A, 432 hertz, and A 440 hertz. And they gave them a questionnaire and they assessed their mood. And what happened is people that listen to 440 hertz music, they reported an increased in negative mood. And this was even more pronounced. among men. So let's take those two findings for a minute and consider this nephalim agenda, which I've always said, the globalist agenda and the nephalum agenda are after the same end goal,

and that's the total domination of humanity. Well, how do you dominate humanity? You have to first depopulate. And we've, you know, I'm sure you guys have talked about the depopulation that's going on. Well, two ways that you can depopulate is cause infertility and to push people towards war. And so 440 Hertz has been instrumental in this depopulation agenda. And so these studies, you know, demonstrate the negative and destructive nature of 440 Hertz. Now Horowitz goes on to say, he makes an interesting conclusion. He says, intensive research into the military and commercial value of compelling herd behavior with music to induce stress, promote diseases, and suppress spirituality, has enabled the world's wealthiest people to exercise cultural control through programming.

So not only have we been programmed with harmful frequencies, the musical frequencies that actually benefit our physical, emotional, and spiritual well-being have been suppressed. But thankfully, more and more people are awakening to the beauty of tuning A to 444 Hertz. There's musicians, Steve Rees is an example. He plays the harp. And you can go on YouTube and just look up Steve Rees, calming harp, and he tunes his harp to 444 hertz. Also, Michael Tyrell with whole tones.

Now, Michael has since passed away, but his whole tones project, all of that is tuned to 44 hertz. And, you know, what Dr. Horowitz states is he says not only just tuning A to 440 hertz, 444 Hertz. Not only is that acoustically pleasing, but it actually stimulates us kinesthetically, and it revitalizes us spiritually. And scientists actually use these frequencies to repair DNA. So it's magnificent what is at our fingertips. And there's actually also a growing recognition that it's possible that King David tuned his harp to 444 hertz. And that's why, you know, that healing and the power came forth from it.

Now, so I'm sharing this with the musicians in Columbia, and Columbia, Tennessee, that is. And at this moment, Jeff Mathina, he's a vocal coach for a lot of big name Christian artists and worshippers. And he's like, can I interject? And I said, absolutely. Well, a buddy of his had just sent him a recording with a guitar tuned three different ways. So the guitar tuned to 432, then 440, and then 444. And so we had him play that through our sound system in the room.

And I just love how the Holy Spirit orchestrates everything. Because here I was describing it, but when the musicians heard it, it was eye-opening for us. So Jeff plays this recording. And 432, Mike Weaver, he said there was an ease to it. When you listen to it, there was an ease to it. When 440 was played, all the musicians, it was like they felt this jarring. It hit them in the chest, some of them said. And then when 444 was played, Mike said it lifted.

It was like it elevated him. It lifted him. And so it just was one of the. of those moments where eyes were opened as to the difference between tuning an instrument. Now, one of the things that's beautiful about tuning A to 444 hertz is that four of the self-fegio tones come forth on your instrument. So the key of G is 396 hertz. G sharp is 417. Middle C is 528.

and then E flat is 639. Now with these sulfegio tones, there are healing properties to them, and particularly 528 hertz. It's known as the miracle tone. And this is the tone that scientists use to actually repair DNA. And so when Yahweh speaks creation into existence, this 528 hertz has this life-sustaining property to it. The sun vibrates at 528 hertz.

chlorophyll, you know, when it absorbs the sun's, the rays of the sun, and then releases oxygen into every cell in our body, that oxygen vibrates at 528 hertz. So it is this life-giving frequency. But unfortunately, you know, the enemy does everything he can to try and suppress this information because music is so vital to his battle strategy. And music and sound have been weaponized. to actually mutate our DNA. Now remember, the Nephilim agenda tries to defile our human genome. And the advancements in biotechnology have actually advanced their ability to do that. And I want to talk about, like, there's this intersection between epigenetics, DNA, sound, and language.

But I want to pause there because I'm sure I triggered all sorts of thoughts. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I wish we could see this like a visual. Like you could actually, like I've watched some of these YouTube videos or they show the different, like what it looks like visually. And you can kind of see like how it all comes together. What is the tuning of the shofar? Laura, I want to know. I know. I was just thinking that same thing. And I was watching a video yesterday about the shofar and how they make the shofars. And there's different sizes. and I wonder if they play, I'm so fascinated by that same question because I had an incredible experience when a shofar was blown over me. It shifted me into a different realm in the spiritual realm and revelation was downloaded period of time in my life. And so I've experienced how these heavenly frequencies can elevate us into a different dimension. And so I'm equally as fascinated with that. Well, I think some of our skeptical listeners

and some of the people on the outside that love to throw rocks at our show think this is new age. They think this is, you know, this is, we're going too far here talking about these subjects. But, I mean, one thing that Luke and I have discovered is there is, just doing this show, is there's a whole other set of laws that a lot of these entities and creatures and other things they know about that the way the world is put together. I don't know. I guess maybe speak a little bit to that because so many people just, they think this is, they just knee-jerk, this is all New Age, you guys are crazy, you're, you're deceiving people.

And it's, you know, everything that isn't sort of this, like, wearing sackcloth and moaning in the streets is bad for human beings to, you know what I mean? It feels like, wait, it feels like, what do we, these are things that God has given humanity. These are the rules of the way the world is put together. I mean, we're all resonating. We're all, we're not just a physical creature. We are a spiritual creature as well. And we have, I don't know, I just don't know, I don't know where that line is.

And I don't know why it's always frequently like something that the naysayers continue to, whenever these topics come up, they get mad and frustrated. Can you speak to that a little bit? Absolutely. I mean, I hear it all the time. And people that, you know, hear me talk about these things, they can jump to the conclusion that I'm new age. I think that's a label that I've had attached to my name.

And, you know, the enemy co-ops things. You know, he coops language, for example. So just because frequency is a term that's used in new age does not mean that frequencies are new age. We have to look at what is the source of our power? If our source, if we are looking to Jesus for revelation, the Holy Spirit for revelation, and how to use the sounds of heaven into the earth realm, then we're not walking in New Age, but frequencies can be used in the New Age realm as well.

What is their power source? Are they looking to the universe? Are they looking to other gods? And so it comes down to what is your power source? And I think as I share more about some biblical stories and also some personal stories, I think people will begin to see the importance of what God is trying to reveal in this epoch of time into the earth realm in our day and age. And I don't want people to be hoodwinked just because they quickly dismiss it that, oh, this is new age. So hear us out. And then as with anything, take it before the Lord and weigh it

yourself. Have the Lord show you whether or not this is new age or not. I mean, each of us is accountable before the Lord for our own actions. But that's what I would say is you have to look at the source. What is the power source that people are tapped into? And one of the things that the enemy loves to deceive. Satan is the father of lies. So deception is the language of the Nephilim, we have to be aware of the strategies being used to hoodwink us. And I don't know if you guys have heard of bi-fi, like Wi-Fi, but bi-fi is the biological internet. And so it uses DNA to transmit messages across cells. Now, I think I may have talked about my good friend Mitchell Floren. He's a biopharmaceutical microbiologist. And he was a

whistleblower on Big Pharma and the man risked everything to do what was right. And he's probably one of the most brilliant people I've ever encountered. And so he's kind of like a personal professor for me. I absolutely love it. And so when I was researching this about sound and how sound is being weaponized, he sent me a ton of articles. And so I want to share some high level summaries from some of the things that he shared with me. So this bi-fi, first of all, in 2012, scientists from Stanford Research Institute, they discovered how to use a virus to encode information into infected cells.

So once the virus gains access into each cell, it releases the information that's encoded within the virus. So if we take a step back and we kind of think about what's happened, since 2020. You know, are some of these long-haul symptoms that people are experiencing actually because their DNA has been changed by the information encoded within the virus? I mean, that's something to really consider. Starting a business can seem like a daunting task, unless you have a partner like Shopify. They have the tools you need to start and grow your business.

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human brain organoids that are being grown in vitro and transplanted into neurodegenerative areas of mice. So we're there. Now, another aspect to this is more than 20 years ago, Russian scientists, they discovered that words and frequencies can actually reprogram our DNA. And this is where epigenetics plays a part in this. Remember I said there's this intersection between epigenetics, DNA, sound, and language. So just simply stated epigenetics is the impact our thoughts and our behaviors have on our body, soul, and spirit as well as future generations. And so what the Russian scientists did is they begin.

looking and examining the 90% of DNA that Western scientists consider to be junk DNA. See, Western scientists focus on the 10% of our DNA that's involved in building proteins. But the Russian scientists looked at the other 90%. And what they found was groundbreaking. They found that this other 90% of the DNA is involved in data storage. communication. And this, the genetic code of this 90% of this DNA, it follows the same rules as human language. It uses syntax. It has grammar rules. And so what that implies is that all of human languages are really verbalizations of our DNA, which I find fascinating. But even more

groundbreaking is these Russian scientists were able to use frequency and words to transmit patterns of information from one set of DNA to another. So what they did is they transformed frog embryos into salamander embryos without a surgical procedure. And so what this does is this is scientific proof of the power of our words. And moreover, this actually explains how epigenetics can change our DNA. Now, one of my favorite books on epigenetics is by Dr. Carolyn Leif. And I'm going to read an excerpt. She says, the scientific power of our mind to change the brain is called epigenetics. And spiritually, it is as a man thinks. So is he. And this is Proverbs 237. She says, the way the brain changes as a result of mental activity is scientifically called neuroplasticity. And spiritually, it is the redenely. It is the

renewing of the mind, Romans 12.2. The science of epigenetics, which is tangible, scientific proof of how important our choices are, they bring life or death, blessing or cursing, and they reach beyond us to influence the next generations, Deuteronomy 3019. This is because choices become signals that change our brain and body. So these changes are not dictated by our genes, Our thinking and subsequent choices become the signal switches for our genes. What's incredible is that genes are dormant until switched on by a signal. They have potential, but they have to be activated to release that potential. Your choices might impact the generations that follow for the sin of the parents to the third

and fourth generation, Exodus 347. And that's in her book called Switch on Your Brain. And so what she's doing is she's talking about the power of words, especially blessing or curses. Now, we literally can curse ourselves, create disease and sickness within ourselves. When we speak those curses, but also when we come under alignment with people who have spoken curses over us, this past week, I've been battling symptoms of a cold. And so instead of, I've learned to choose my words very carefully. So instead of saying, I'm sick, I say I'm fighting sickness because I don't want to claim sickness, disease, or debilitation.

And so often, you know, I hear people say, well, my migraines or my bad back or my arthritis or my diabetes or my cancer, like we don't want to claim these things because once you claim them, they're part of your being. our words have power. And if we consider that 60 to 70% of our body is made up of water, it makes sense that sound and words impacts our body. In fact, you know, when you think about it, blessing and curses, they emit a frequency. And so when curses are released, there's a dissonant sound that's emitted that can alter

matter even to the subatomic level. And the research of Masura Amoto is fascinating. He's the one that looked at the water crystals. And so what he did is he looked at the impact of positive and negative words on water molecules. And so what he did is he wrote words on strips of paper and then he taped them to a water bottle with the words facing the water. And then he examined the crystallized forms of these water molecules under a microscope. and he found that the structure of the water molecule was changed based on the message it received. So, for example, words like love and gratitude produce this beautiful, perfect water crystal.

But words like you fool or even Hitler created this chaotic crystal under the microscope. Now, obviously, water can't read, but the frequency created by the written word, itself caused a vibration such that it impacted the water molecule. Well, this demonstrates that blessings are life-giving. You know, they have the power to heal and bring forth beauty, but curses have the power to destroy. So if the vibrations coming from these words impacted the water so definitively, imagine what lyrics in songs due to our body, soul, and soul, spirit. And then imagine what the word of God, when we read the word of God out loud over ourselves, the impact that it has. And Isaiah 55, 10 and 11 speaks to this. It says, as the rain and the snow

come down from heaven and do not return to it without watering the earth and making it bud and flourish so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater, so is my word that goes out from my mouth. It will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose for which I sent it. And I love this because the word of God is a tremendous weapon. And we have that at our fingertips, but so many Christians don't know how to wield it properly. You know, you think about it, it's sharper than any two-ed sword. And when Jesus was in the wilderness facing every temptation known to humanity, you know, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the flesh, of the eyes and the pride of life. He used the Word of God to fight Satan. Jesus didn't give Satan his

opinion. Jesus says, it is written. Matthew 4.4, he says, it is written. Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God. So the Word of God is a powerful weapon in this spiritual battle to slay the giants. And I think, you know, if we can combine the Word of God with understanding our true identity in Christ, then we can walk in the fullness of the dominion authority that Jesus reclaimed for us. I love what you're saying, though, because it's like, I feel like everyone's mom,

for the most part, probably has paraphrased a lot of this and said, like, you say something like, say something at all, right? Or, you know, I know Brendan Manning had an interesting quote. He said, in every encounter we give life or we drain it, there's no neutral exchange. And then friend of the show, Ryan Stevenson, actually wrote a song for Tellby Mac in 2012 called Speak Life. And I think it's lost on us, right?

The things we listen to or the things we say. I don't think we're cognizant all the time about the power of blessings and curses as we speak them or agree with them. And the same way you agree with a prayer or two more come in agreement. The pop talks about I'm there also, right? The idea of agreeing with these things. I just find it fascinating. And what I love what you're talking about here is all the biological researches. well, right? There's these world studies about how these things affect. And that's one thing I was

going to ask you about, which I think is, and then you've kind of answered is just like biologically, how do our bodies absorb or interact with frequencies in it? You know, our body's like 70% water. So there's a resonance in that. And also, we also know that neurologically we are, we have an electrical system that runs like we have synapses in our brain and it runs on electricity. Our nervous system runs on electricity. So you have these synapses and these communications in our, our neuro system is a highway. So I think you've kind of answered that, but our entire physiology interacts with sound.

And we know, you know, electromagnetic frequencies, EMF, right? We know that that because of the danger of our cell phones next to our head and all of that stuff. Also, we interact with that. But is that how it happens? Because we talk about, I love what you're talking about, but from that meeting in Columbia, Tennessee,

where I was where I was as well, this idea that these certain tunings elicit, you know, a visceral response, right? And I think people can resonate with this as well, and then you pun intended, that, you know, there's certain things that make you listen to that make you feel a certain way. And then, you know, that study about the life-giving words, right?

That's, you can, you listening, right now can can remember the things right if someone tells you you know how you know kind you are or even little things like how much they like your shoes like those things that remarkably stick with you remember that remember that next time you go to your closet right to pick something out to wear someone so they and in the same way and then this is for us and probably for you as well like when people are negative about they write things out about you or they say things about you those things stick with you too if you let them right and you know i think it's why the bible Yeah, the Bible is very explicit about like the power of life and death are in the tongue and that you have.

Definitely. Yeah. Well, I think, you know, when you think about it, we're being bombarded all the time with messages. Subliminal messages. We know for a long time that that gets into our mind and, you know, can train our thoughts in a certain programmable way. What I just spoke about with, you know, all these frequencies and how 440 Hertz can be so destructive. We're being bombarded. with these weaponized frequencies. But, you know, one of the things that I know the Lord's called me to do is to be a distributor of hope and to equip people to know how to rise up and fight against these things. And so to your point, Luke, what you were saying, there's so much power in our words. And when somebody says something negative about us, you know, we get, I'm sure you guys get, you know, emails that are pretty negative, critical at times, I myself do as well. We have to quickly break off any curses that are attached to that because those curses will

begin to take effect in our bodies. And so we want to break those curses off. Now, one of the things that I do too is I release forgiveness very quickly because I know that unforgiveness will keep me in bondage. Yes. And also the other person. And so I just like quickly forgive them. Lord, they don't even know my character. I just forgive them for the judgments that they're making against me.

And then I release blessing back on them. And I ask the Lord to send forth his sound, the roar of the lion into their lives, to reveal truth to them and so that they can understand the goodness of our king. So that's a responsibility we each have is, you know, when words are spoken over us, diagnoses, for example, the Lord is really teaching me this, particularly with Zacharias health that I've talked about, you know, in times past, have I come into agreement with a diagnosis? because the doctors want to say it's chronic kidney disease.

And Tom and I are very clear, no, we do not receive chronic kidney disease. We understand that he's got issues with his kidneys. And we're praying through that and making changes in his diet. And he's seen, you know, I just share that to encourage people. But the other thing is, and this is what is so important to me, is that we understand who we are in Christ. And we understand our dominion authority. Because, you know, we are living in times where we have to exercise the authority that

God's given us to rightly steward those things that he's placed in our hands. And, you know, I've talked about this at Blurricon, but not necessarily, I don't think, on your podcast, but, you know, God established the dominion of mandate as a principle. of great importance. And, you know, it goes back to Genesis 1.28, which says, then God bless them and God said to them, be fruitful and multiply, fill the earth and subdue it, have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth. So this dominion mandate is actually a hallmark of humanity. But why was it so important to God to establish this? And I think if we look at the Hebrew word for dominion, it begins to help us

understand. And it's the Hebrew word Rada. And it means to rule, have dominion, to dominate, to tread down, and to prevail against. So what that suggests is, you know, we're going to face foes or enemies that are going to resist us as governors. And we're going to have to tread down and prevail against them. Well, God constituted his government on earth. And he chose us, his image bears, his representatives, to steward creation, not according to our plans, but according to his. purposes. And he gave Adam and Eve the authority to govern creation effectively. But before Adam and Eve could even really get started in that role, a foe showed up on the scene. And here was this cunning creature. You know, he was seething with hatred and jealousy because he once held great levels of

authority. You know, in the heavenly realms, Lucifer once had great power and great authority. He was, as we talked about, he was this beautiful spiritual being designed to make magnificent music. But he became enamored with his own glory. Back to what we were talking about earlier, Nate. He sought to outshine the glory of the Holy One. And he gave himself over to pride. And I think that same trap exists within the music industry. When artists are given that fame and glory, it's tempting to become enamored with your

own glory. And, you know, it's, I think it's a trap for any artist, myself included as an author. And it's so critical that, you know, when we receive fame and glory or accolates, that we quickly reflect it back to the one who is worthy of all glory and honor. Because, you know, Satan wants nothing more than all of us to fall under the same trap. He, you know, misery loves company. And we've seen this happen. You mentioned this, Nate, earlier. You've seen people. make these crazy choices in their life to run after fame and glory. And fame and glory steers us off course. And at first, it's ever so subtle.

But if we don't correct through repentance, the farther down that path we go, we stray further and further away from what God has called us to. And we've seen this happen in people's lives. You can see a shift that happens in their eyes. You know, you look into their eyes and something doesn't look. look right. It looks like they're dead inside. Well, that's because they've given themselves over to the pride of life. They've made these ungodly deals and packs with the music industry. I think the music industry is run by Neffleum hosts. And Lucifer, you know, when we think about Lucifer, he wanted to

ascend to the heights. Well, that's like ascending to the top of the charts. Now, there's nothing wrong with being at the top of the charts? Because the Lord elevates people. The Lord will elevate us to the top of the charts. But if our desire is to go after the top of the charts, then we fall into the same thing that Lucifer did. Isaiah 14, 13 through 14 says, you said in your heart, I will ascend to the heavens. I will raise my throne above the stars of God. I will sit and thrown on the Mount of Assembly, on the utmost heights of Mount Zafan. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds. I will make myself like the most high.

He was trying to ascend to the top of the charts. And God says he opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble. You know, the Lord elevates those who walk humbly. So there's nothing wrong if the Lord elevates us. Like if the Lord elevates you guys to the best podcast or the top of the charts in America or my book to bestseller. There's nothing wrong with that. It's what is our desire? What are we seeking after? And, you know, Lucifer, he was cast out of heaven and stripped of his authority. Now, while he lost some of his authority, you know, he still maintained a level of power.

And, you know, going back to Adam and Eve, when when God established them as Earth's first governors, he did so under the existence of free will. You know, Adam and Eve were free to choose what they did without authority. And Creator God, you know, he was taking such a great risk in giving humanity free will, but the alternative for him was unbearable. And so when we think about, you know, creation, Satan was a witness to this. And he developed this plan to usurp the dominion authority that was given to Adam and Eve. And so he connide them, you know,

we know the story well. He developed this devious plot to trick them into thinking they could become more powerful and more wise if they just ate of the forbidden fruit. Well, they walked right into the trap because their hunger for power was greater than their desire for obedience and walking in the fear of the Lord. And tragically, they relinquished their God-given authority to the enemy of us all. But even a greater tragedy is they placed all of human. humanity under the dominion authority of Satan. And John 1430 reminds us of this because it describes Satan as the ruler of this world. And Ephesians 2-2 calls him the prince of the power of the air.

Now, thankfully, God already had this grand rescue plan to recover what was lost that fateful day in the Garden of Eden. And that plan involves sending his son to restore the dominion mandate. Well, in order to restore the dominion authority that the first Adam handed over to Satan, Jesus, the second Adam, had to face the accuser and every temptation known to humanity. And what's interesting about the third temptation, Satan takes Jesus to the peak of a very tall mountain. And from that vantage point, Satan offers to Jesus all the kingdoms of the world if he would just bow down and worship Satan.

You know, you think about that with musicians, you know, getting a label or a contract. You know, they're offered all of this if they'll just bow down and give everything over to these companies. And so, you know, you think about what Jesus was facing, this vantage point that he had. And here's what happens, Matthew 4, 9 through 10. It says, all this I will give you. He said, if you will bow down and worship me, but Jesus said to Satan, away from me, Satan, for it is written, worship the Lord your God and serve him only. So again, Jesus fights Satan with the word. But if you notice Jesus' response, you know, he didn't refute that Satan had the authority to give all these kingdoms to Jesus. Satan was well aware what was at stake because the first Adam had squandered his rightful authority. to govern the kingdoms of the world. And so Satan had been governing these kingdoms ever since.

So if Jesus were to give into this temptation, dominion authority would have been lost. And I can't emphasize enough how critical this moment was in cosmic history. If Jesus would have succumbed to the temptation of fame and glory, the grand rescue plan would have failed. We'd be without hope and darkness would reign over all the kingdom. of the world. But Jesus didn't give into that temptation. Instead, he restored the dominion mandate through his life, his death, and his resurrection. And so then when Jesus ascended to the Father, when he returned to heaven, the responsibility of governing was placed on our shoulders.

And that's why he says in Matthew 1619, I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. whatever you bind on earth will have been bound in heaven whatever you loose on earth will have been loosed in heaven so in order for us to walk in this dominion authority in order for us to not give into the bombardment of all these frequencies we have to awaken from our passivity you know we've talked about this that there are spiritual giants in our land they're taking our territory our inheritance, our freedom. But we have to rise up. You know, this is a time to step into the confidence of who we are and who God has created us to be. And when we consider this restoration of the mandate of this dominion mandate, what that means is that you and I as Christ's ambassadors, we have the

responsibility to exercise our God-given authority to govern Earth according to His. According to his statutes and precepts. And we actually read about this. So Matthew's great commission, his record of it, lays out the dominion mandate. And it says, this is Matthew 28, 18 through 20. It says, then Jesus came to them and said, all authority in heaven on earth has been given to me. Therefore, go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the father and of the son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. and surely I am with you always to the very end of the age. So in Matthew's Great Commission, he actually emphasizes disciplining nations.

Well, how do you do that? To make disciples of nations, it means we apprehend heaven's agenda over a nation and we bring it down into the earth realm. So we go before the king of kings and we inquire about his purposes for a nation. And then as intercessors, you know, as Christ's ambassadors, we render the king, decrease. And that's how we become change agents. We are stewarding the land and we're shifting the atmosphere over our communities, over our schools, over our places of business, over states and regions. And we do that through prayer and worship. And this dominion mandate that Matthew lays out, it emphasizes releasing wholeness to societies by setting people groups free from oppression and

enslavement. And that's really our responsibility as citizens of the kingdom of God. And so, you know, you think about with Christ with us, he's head over every power and authority. That means that we have dominion authority to trample on snakes and scorpions. And one of my favorite giant slayers is Joshua, you know? And, you know, we think about he lingered in the presence of the Lord. In Exodus 3311, it talks about how he lingered. And he lingered. And he lingered. in the tent of meeting. Well, that's because he was developing an intimate relationship with the Lord. He was walking in the fear of the Lord, and that gave him the supernatural courage and strength

to defeat the giants. And, you know, when you think about the Battle of Jericho, for example, it's an example of how the Lord was teaching Joshua and the Israelites to release the sounds of heaven into the earth realm to defeat the giants. that's a mic drop you know we talked we talked about this a blurry con you had a whole amazing expose on how to be your giant slayers and we talked about this in columbia again and i just think it's an important aspect and i really feel like this this discussion here around dominion and also how that relates to the things we say and also how you can give life or you can you can bless her

curse right and what i love about this is the nine episodes into speaking with you laura and and going through everything from the Fed to, you know, circumpunks to magic circles and Nephilim hosts and the Nephlim agenda is that you're really just exposing, we're systematically exposing, and you are in your research the pathways and the schemes and the battle plans, if you will, of how the Dartmouth wants to keep us enslaved.

And yet you flip that in our role then because of our birthright and because of our creation, then is to, as you say, to trample on the snakes and scorpions, to put those beneath our feet. And I love that because we can talk about a lot of crazy and dark things. And crazy, not in the sense of being far-fetched, but just like big and dark things. And then we can bring it back to this is the call on your life. This is the family that you've been restored to. It's the family you're born into.

And here is your call. And I think these are such important messages, whether you're a musician or not, because we all have interact with music, probably on a daily, if not, some people, hourly basis, right? And I think being cognizant of how, you know, the things that we're allowing to be spoken over our lives, and then we're also speaking over our own lives. And others, it's just so paramount in, you know, in our, Yeah. In our day to day and ultimately people's salvation, which matters the most, right,

is taking back those things that are gods and that is with our own dominion. And then in the same way, taking background with evangelism, with reaching people with the greatest story ever told, the most amazing thing has ever happened, you know, in the history of history. is the coming of Jesus Christ and the redemptive, miraculous redemptive plan that God set in emotion through his son. I love Joshua as well, actually. In my Bible, we're in numbers right now. Oh, yeah. There's a really fascinating scene in numbers where Moses calls Joshua in front of the Nation of Israel.

And he lays hands on him. He puts his hand, and there's this transfer of authority and power, and he speaks it out, right? And in the same way, it's fascinating, there's this whole, like, this is a whole other podcast probably, but in the same way that they would lay their hands on the heads of the sacrificial animals in order to transfer sin, individual sin and also the sin of a nation, that animal is then a perfect sacrifice. Of course, it's shades of Jesus, but it's a sacrifice and redemptive, and there's this passing of it, but things were spoken, right? You spoke out the sin, and it was passed, and Joshua, it was speaking out of authority

and said a portion of Moses' authority was passed at Joshua. in that moment. And there's something really, really remarkable about that. And I think it ties into this as I was thinking about what you're saying. And that power of passing of authority was spoken. And it was also given by via touch, right, this symbolic impartation. And, you know, I know we don't, we don't read ourselves into the Bible. The story, the Bible isn't about us, about Luke or Nate or Laura. It's stories about imperfect people encountering a perfect God and making the same mistakes that a lot of us do, right? But it's very, the lessons there are timeless is why it is a, we interact with a living, the Bible is living and active. It says, the Word of God is living

inactive and we interact with this. And it is, yeah, and I think, you know, Joshua is one of my favorites. And I think one of the reasons why is because he learned how to use the frequencies of heaven to defeat the giants. And, you know, you think about the battle of Jericho. You know, here it involves sound. And, you know, he was given this unusual strategy from the Lord. But because Joshua walked in the fear of the Lord, it meant he walked in radical obedience. And so he followed the instructions that the Lord had given him.

But you think about Jericho, you know, Jericho was the city that was inhabited by giants. In fact, the walls of Jericho, you know, it said that they had Cyclopean, masonry, which are these massive... Oh, we just got back from Peru. Laura, we know about we touched all that cyclope and stuff. I was going to talk about that. I didn't want to derail the podcast, but I was going to talk about how, you know, they blow the horns and they scream and yell and then they fall down.

Yeah. I think it's lost on us, you know, oftentimes how these stories kind of come in. But, I mean, just doing this podcast, Laura, I was kind of writing down things as you were talking about what we've kind of learned is that, you know, we hear these stories, Luke and I, and we're trying to draw all these pieces together that we hear a lot that everything has a frequency, everything resonates at a frequency, and that, you know, you get into the UFO topics and how they fly their UFOs around. It's like a frequency thing, and they're, they all have this understanding, and they're dismantling, supposedly, UFOs are going over a nuclear basis,

Because what does a nuclear reaction do to these realms and these frequencies? They don't want it to happen. So they're dismantling, turning them off. Supposedly Bigfoot can resonate and then go from our dimension to other dimensions. Ancient construction, they could tap into the stones and shape them and move them based on resonance. There's no smoking gun here, like, how this all works. But Luke and I hear it all the time on the show. And people think all that stuff is crazy.

but there is sort of these laws of heaven that the enemy has hijacked. But they're there. There are laws like anything else that we've discovered as human beings. You know, we don't really understand gravity. The more we get into it, we don't really understand it. Supposedly, you can get some elements and you can make gravity on a UFO and do whatever you want with it. You can fly however you want it to go.

We don't really get it. But I think what you're saying to me is important because anyone who's been in the alternate health world, anyone who gets into like a doctor that's not, just going to give you pills. They talk a lot about this stuff. How do you heal your body? How do you get out of these negative mindsets that the power of thinking, the power of the things we put in our body causes our body to vibrate and resonate in different ways? Someone sent us an article a couple days ago that said that every medication you take changes the vibration, the resonance inside your body.

So it might not be the chemical reaction we all think is happening, but it might be changing the way your body's vibrating. I don't know You're talking about vibes, bro? Vives. Good vibes, good vibrations. We see to go back to... Beech boys, dude. Yeah, Brian Wilson told us everything we need to know.

So, good vibes, right? Like, there is this sort of language of heaven, and we're all walking around and our pea-sized brains, we don't even realize... Some of us do. Some of us get these inclinations. Some of us get a feeling, right?

We get something starts to conjure up, and then all of a sudden, It's like, wait a minute, I had a feeling. What was that? What was that feeling? Was that a vibration? What was that? Was that the Holy Spirit?

I don't, it's just, it's more and more complicated on the show. I think we could do like several episodes on this. But I do think it's safe to assume that the ancients knew these laws. And they, and I do think they hijacked him. And it would make sense that they're trying to use our own music against us. They sort of take every gift from heaven and they twist it and they turn it. they use it against us. And I think that whether that's the ancient dynasties that they were making to the modern day tools that they use, I think these topics are good. Even if you have more of a

fundamentalist mindset and you're afraid of these topics, they're being used against you regardless. Right. And I don't, you're doing yourself a disservice by not being willing to understand the way the enemy is using these spiritual laws to enslave you. These, it's not like we're all, you, like, None of us are going to crack the code. We're not going to understand it all in this life. But I've heard so much of it on a show. I know it's a thing. I know it's a thing.

I don't know how to tell people that, but I think Luke and I know there's something here that they all understood. And a lot of these creatures that still were around today, not only do they know it, they use it. Well, and I think back to what we were talking about earlier, that the enemy, you know, he co-ops language or, you know, he hijacked. things that that God intended for us to understand and utilize. Well, here are biblical stories of God teaching us how to use sound frequencies,

sound technologies to defeat the giants. So, you know, back to Jericho, I'm sure most of your listeners understand this story, but in case they don't, the strategy was, you know, for six days, the Israelites were to march around Jericho. And seven priests were to carry rams horns, which were like trumpets. And they were to blow the trumpet as they walked, you know, they marched in front of the Ark of the Covenant. And they blew these Rams horns. But the people remained silent for six days as they marched around. On the seventh day, the Lord told them to march seven times.

times around Jericho and the priests were to blow the rams horns. And the Lord told the people, listen for when the priests blow this long trumpet blast. And then when that happens, everyone shout and the walls will fall. And so that's exactly what happened. And this was an example of the demonstration of taking those frequencies from heaven into the earth realm. The reason I, I, I say they were heaven's frequencies is because the Lord was the conductor of this orchestra. He was telling them what instruments to use, when to use them, and then when to allow the voices to be joined with those instruments. And so this was releasing heaven sounds into the earth realms to slay the giants of Jericho.

And I love that. But there's other examples, too, in scripture. You know, I think about Jehoshaphat, and this is out of Second Chronicles 20, Jehoshaphat faces an armies of hybrids, and sound is used to slay these giants. And I'm just going to read a portion of Second Chronicles 20. It says, some people came and told Jehoshaphat, a vast army is coming against you from Edom, from the other side of the Dead Sea. It is already in Haziz on Tamar. Alarmed Jehoshaphat resists. to inquire of the Lord, and he proclaimed a fast for all of Judah. The people of Judah came together to seek help from the Lord. Indeed, they came from every town in Judah to seek him. And the spirit of the Lord came on Jehazazel. He said, listen, King Jehoshaphat and all who live in Judah and Jerusalem.

This is what the Lord says to you. Do not be afraid or discouraged because of this vast army. For the battle is not yours, but gods. Tomorrow, march down against them. They will be climbing up by the pass of Ziz, and you will find them at the end of the gorge in the desert of Jerul. You will not have to fight this battle. Take up your position, stand firm, and see the deliverance the Lord will give you, Judah and Jerusalem. Do not be afraid. Do not be discouraged. Go out to face them tomorrow, and the Lord will be with you.

Jehoshaphat bowed down with his face to the ground, and all the people of Judah and Jerusalem fell down in worship before the Lord. early in the morning they left for the desert of Toccoa as they set out. Jehosophat stood and said, Listen to me, Judah and people of Jerusalem, have faith in the Lord your God and you will be upheld. Have faith in his prophets and you will be successful. After consulting the people, Jehoshaphat appointed men to sing to the Lord and to praise him for the splendor of his holiness as they went out at the head of the army saying, give thanks to the Lord for his love endures forever. as they began to sing and praise, the Lord set ambushes against the men of Amon and Moab and Mount Saer, who were invading Judah and they were defeated. The Ammonites and Moabites rose up against the men from Mount Saer to destroy and annihilate them.

After they finished slaughtering the men from Saer, they helped to destroy one another. And I love this story because, you know, I write about this a lot in my book, the Edomites intermingled with the giants. And we also know that the men from Mount Sayir, there were giants that inhabited that area. We know that from the Bible, but also ancient Egyptian text. And so here, the men of Mount Sayir, the Lord orchestrated that they would be completely destroyed and annihilated. Now that's the Hebrew word haram. And I've talked about this before. But that's the word that denotes Yahweh's absolute disdain for particular acts of sin, particularly the mixing of species. So here we have, you know, Jehoshaphat, he's alarmed not only because of the size of the army is great in number.

He's alarmed because the size of the army is great in stature. He's facing an army of hybrids. But Jehoshaphat isn't paralyzed by fear. Instead, he resolves to inquire of the Lord and he calls a fast. And it says all of the people from Judah, you know, they seek the Lord in his temple for the strategy. And the strategy the Lord gives is for the musicians and the worshippers to lead the way. And I believe that's what's happening. That's what the Lord is calling these musicians to these worshippers, is to lead the way in the fight against.

the giants. And I have just a really cool testimony. So after the gathering, the second day in Columbia, some of us went to be part of Charity Gale's live recording for her new worship album called Rejoice. And it was an unspeakably glorious time of worship. I've been in a lot of corporate worship settings. And this was one of the most memorable for me personally. And we just, everyone there was worshipping in spirit and in truth. And we were just declaring the goodness of the king. And what happened is I found out, Crystal Yates told me a few days later that two psychic

operations were shut down in Columbia following that worship event. And that is an example of a power encounter. So when you have people gathering who are worshiping in spirit and in truth, the power of God that's released, you know, it renders the power of the occult impot impotent. And I believe this is a sign. It's a taste of what is coming. And I believe what the Lord wants to do is he wants to release new sounds within the earth realm that will be used. that will be used to slay the giants and to set captives free. You know, we're living in a generation that's been hindwinked by this Nephilim agenda.

And as I mentioned, music tuned to 440 hertz has been a huge component in this. And so a shift needs to occur into the new revelation regarding the sounds of heaven that the Lord wants to release. And I have to tell you to about my friend Matt Van Deverndor. Luke, you may have met him. He was there. He spoke after you left, though. So. I wanted to stay for his.

He was the, he had to. Yeah. Yeah. He shared about what the Lord, the revelation that the Lord has poured out. So Matt reached out to me. I think we've known each other about a year. He and his wife, Rachel, are just the most amazing people. Matt is, he's a landscaper, but he's been a musician as well.

And he's just the most humble, assuming guy. He's kind-hearted. He's just a servant of the Lord. And what happened for he and Rachel is about three years ago, they were just in a really difficult time in life. Rachel had been plagued with numerous physical ailments, some of them debilitating since she was a child. And things just progressively were getting worse. And they had spent a decade trying to address these physical ailments. Matt was struggling with depression, suicidal ideation. And so one night, you know, they put their kids to bed and they're just hanging out on the couch. And Matt hears the Lord say, if you don't get up and do something, she will never be the same. And so he gets up and he grabs

a notebook and a pen. And he has no idea why. And the Lord begins to just download Revelation for two weeks straight, the manifest presence of the Lord showed up in their home, 24-7. Dreams, visions, downloads. Matt was filling up notebook upon notebook of this revelation. And when he first shared this with me, like my brain can't comprehend the revelation that was given to Matt, but my spirit knows how profound this revelation is. When he first told me, it was like, everything, in my spirit wanted to just do cartwheels and jump up and down. So when Matt got this revelation, the Lord essentially poured out a new math system. And Matt should not have been able to understand this revelation, but it's like at the same time the revelation came, Matt had understanding of it.

And so what the Lord is showing him, essentially he calls it Trinity Math. And it's It's nine-dimensional math. It's not linear math. It's cyclical math. And what has happened over these last several years is the Lord has shown him how to prove Trinity math. Like he'll do math for eight hours a day sometimes. And all the math proves itself.

And it reworks broken systems such as architecture, science. math, health, music. And the Lord has given him a transdimensional music theory. Now, in the midst of this download, the Lord began showing him regiments of audible and inaudible frequencies to play over Rachel, because the Lord was showing him what frequencies needed to be released for particular parts of her anatomy that were broken. And he had to rig up this system. I don't even know how he did it. And he played those frequencies and she was healed completely of all of these ailments

that she had had. And not only that, he was set free from depression. And so what the Lord is wanting to pour forth in this epic of time is he is releasing the sounds of heaven into the earth realm. And part of that has come through this revelation given to Matt. Matt was in Nashville. He was able to begin to share this with some of the musicians, but we're really at the beginning stages of this unfolding. But here's the key. The key is 444 hertz. It's a key, if we shift our tuning to 444 hertz, it's a key that unlawful. It's a key that unlocks this greater revelation of what the Lord wants to pour out. And I believe that when we have

worship in spirit and in truth with instruments tuned to 444 Hertz, we are going to see mass deliverance and healings and the giants slayed. And so I feel like this is just a beginning of what the Lord is pouring out right now. That's crazy. That's awesome. It's so much. It's so much. take in. I know it's hard. It's, it's, it's hard in a single podcast to kind of dive into these things. I mean, you, you know these Bible stories. I like you, I like that you were getting into some of those because that was one of the first things I thought was the walls of Jericho. But then you think of other stories too, like Gideon's army. They, they go around, whittles it down to 300, and they blow the horns, and then it creates this panic and everyone freaks out. You know,

you talked about Pan and the, the noise he makes caused people to have panic attacks. It's where we get the word. And it's this immense fear that comes over. People say that when they see some of these cryptic creatures, this wall of fear hits them, some vibrating residence that they can do. There's so much here we could go on and on and on, but I think it's great.

I think if nothing else, we can understand how these tuning your guitar can help. Luke's got to bring his down off the wall there and give it a new fresh tune. Yeah. It made me think that made me think. I think of Jeff Buckley, you know, in the Leonard Cohen song, right? One of my favorite, hallelujah, right, where it says,

and I've heard there's a secret chord that David played and it pleased the Lord, but you don't really care for music, do you? It goes like this, the fourth, the fifth, the minor fall, the major lift. Yeah, there is probably a secret chord. I don't know, it makes you, I love that song, too, so I had to make it. Yeah, it's a good one. From the 80s, right? So we had to slip it in there, but it is interesting that even David, right, was a musician.

before you know of course and a giant slayer and there we go Laura we have a musician a giant slayer and you have there's a power to it you're great at this you're an amazing researcher

and everyone who's listened to your show knows this so it's such a compelling case for the power of a frequency and perhaps David's secret court was in 444 you know we don't know but maybe Leonard Cohen knows

I think what I take from this is there's so much we don't know or didn't know, and now we have sort of attuning to, pun intended again. I mean, you can't help me. It's not intentional, Nate, but it is intentional. And if we tune ourselves into, into understanding some of these things.

And what I love, and I think you said at the beginning, is that the Bible says the Lord sings over us. Yes. And I love to think about that because I have a son. And, you know, I like to hold him and pray over him. And I think that our father is the same way. And he sings these songs of blasting over us as his children. And I think our mandate is a lot of ways to do that over others.

And that's just encouraging, right? That you uncover the agenda and you lay the case. And Nate, I actually, I really like that you brought up the new age thing. Because I think oftentimes, like, as you said, enemy likes to fabricate and hijack and co-op things. And I think it in the same way that, like, I was thinking about prayer and the way that we're supposed to speak to God, right, and spend time in communing with God and, you know, that blessing that comes with the practice of a prayer life and speaking and having an intimate relationship with the creator of the universe. But you have this co-opting of that and in the ideas of, you know, transcendental

meditation or psychedelics, these ways of accessing the spiritual realm where God's given us the way and given us, showed us how it and modeled it for us in the person's of Jesus and how to pray. And then you have this other sort of set the side of the coin. And I think it's important for people understand that these things are, these are laws of nature. These are the ways that God has created things. And they're not evil because evil people or because misguided people use them for nefarious purposes necessarily. I do believe that there is a design at the top of that that pushes that agenda. But inherently, these are things that God has created and has blessings.

What I love when we do in the show is how people like, you Lord, make you just think about things like this. and bring this to your to your frontal cortex and to your purview and start to look at the things that we maybe mindlessly do. Your story about the live worship session and then the little psychic offices and stuff is just, I don't think we always are aware of the power in worship and the power in song. And you reference Job and that's one of the things too. We talked about on the show, Nate, is like where the sons of God sung. We're singing as God created the earth. I mean, it's just, yeah, the co-opting worship, right? Nate had made a great point.

Like, people, the Prince of Darkness that we did, Nate, you said we talked about with Doug Van Dorn. He wanted that worship for himself, one of those songs about him for him. Yeah. And in the same way, I think people can fall into that trap, right? And you're an artist, you want people singing your songs back to you as Nate, as you said. Like, there's, it's an element of worship, really. And in the same way it corrupted, yeah, corrupted the Elohim. corrupts humanity if you

if you live for that purpose. Hop on the tour bus. Hop on the old blurry bus and resonate out of 4444 Hertz. Get down the road. There you go. Boogie on down, man.

Boogie on down. There's some cooler people you want to be on the tour bus with like all the people that Laura's made friends with. So hop on their tour bus, much cooler than our tour bus. And headed to a city near you, Laura's going to release, she's about to release a record. She doesn't even know it yet.

It's all. it's all happening i see how this works i love it but thanks laura thanks for coming on our show oh absolutely it's always great to be with you guys i wish we had more and more fascinating questions to ask and things to say your brain is on another level than ours so well prepared as always the most prepared guests we have yeah we just like sit back and let laura to the talk and like what do we have to say it's amazing oh we love you laura it's so good to spend time with you

love you too guys even by proxy here and so yeah we're grateful. I mean, this is, I think all the stuff that, the stuff that you've exposed from the Fed and all the way to this and the research and the data, I think it's so important to work you're doing. I just don't encourage you. Like, obviously it's resonating with folks.

Oh, my. Hey, hey, I got them for days. I'm a dad. I'm a dad. I'm a dad, all right? Tune in to this episode. But for real, though. It obviously is.

And I just think it's our extreme privilege to, to get to spend time with you. and to have had you on the times that we have and just to, you know, you've got so much to share and with the world and with, you know, with Christians and believers. We're just grateful to get to bend your ear or you can bend our ears for a couple. You could say that her episodes harmonized with our listeners very well. You know, we can say we play it by ear, but she's way too organized and meticulous, right? It's a crescendo.

This comes to a crescendo here. Oh, man. Tom should be part of this conversation right now. Oh, man. Dad jokes. Dad jokes to close it out. Well, thanks, Laura. Absolutely.

Thanks for having me, guys. So I've had your family for us. Yeah. I will. All right. Take care. See, Laura.