Blurry Creatures - EP: 20 The Nephilim Trail with L.A. Marzulli

Episode Date: January 3, 2021

The legend himself, L.A. Marzulli joins the show for the first time. Marzulli unpacks his decades of research and theories on Bigfoot, UFOs, Aliens, and the ancient biblical giants. L.A. has been on the trail of the Nephilim for the last 50 years. So what happens when you stand in front of ancient mounds and feel inspired to change the course of your life's direction? L.A. Marzulli shares some of his own stories with us-- revealing a man incredibly passionate about the truth, people, and understanding what is out there and what is yet to come.  Guest: https://lamarzulli.net  [e-mail]   blurrycreatures.com    Socials www.instagram.com/blurrycreatures    www.facebook.com/blurrycreatures    www.twitter.com/blurrycreatures    Music Kyle Monroe: www.tinytaperoom.com    Aaron Green: https://www.instagram.com/aaronkgreen/    Mastering: Brandon Weaver https://ironwingstudios.com   Outro Song: TimeCop1983: www.timecop1983.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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further down the road. He's just had a 70th birthday. So he's been in this game, 50 years, he says. So it's a long time. Imagine that. Imagine doing blurry creatures for 50 years. Where do you think you'd be, Luke? Sitting right here with you, Nate. I mean, it's probably like holograms and other weird stuff. But yeah, sitting right here. You'd be a full believer by then, I bet.

I know you're still skeptical, Luke. Come on. Tell the people what they want to hear. Yeah, you know. We're still on this journey. The Rogers family's coming around, and the greatest part is you posted some photos and videos of your brother dressing up his Bigfoot over Christmas.

and I thought that was great. Yeah, you did. Yeah, and my mom did the obligatory. This has been going on for years. She always put some kind of Bigfoot shirt into my stocking. Always? This has been going on?

Almost always, yeah. It's always like some really crappy, you know, Haynes BVee-T. But that's not the point. The point is my mom loves to give me Bigfoot shirts. And mom, if you're listening, I love you, thank you for that. This has been going on a while?

Oh, yeah. This isn't a blurry creature's thing? No, this is like I do. I always have had a little fascination with Bigfoot. This was meant to be. They used to watch. I mean back when finding Bigfoot came on and it was like kind of a phenomenon. Yeah, really into that. You're a little burned out and I never find anything. The same thing

happening with Oak Island. I love I love Oak Island but it's frustrating when they don't there isn't any sort of closure they don't really find anything but I keep watching my dad keeps watching my mom keeps watching we keep watching. Supposedly the arc of the covenant's buried on both Oak Island is that what you think that or I mean it's they found a lot of evidence there that points to the Templars which that would sort of you can take a leap and say there could be some of the treasures of the temple or some other things i mean they were they were massively wealthy and essentially the first banking system they funded the crusades and so that you know we're not on topic here but that

that to me is fascinating there is something there and to me it's a lot not not unlike this this space where you know there's something there and just kind of flush it out i heard on an interview that oak island is one of l.a marzuli's favorite shows so look at this dude dude i know man I'm telling you what. Like, I'll be a treasure hunter if I could. If I could afford to be a treasure hunter, I would be one. There's something about that. I think my dad's the same way.

Like, I got, what he wanted this year, this is no joke. My father wanted an underwater metal detector for Christmas. And so, and not like just a big one, like a one who could handheld because my parents go to Caymans every, every year, some of their best friends. And he's convinced that, like, the storms out there have probably washed some, um, coins and stuff into the areas he likes to snorkel. Not scuba dive. My dad snorkels. So he's going to be out there looking. Papa Rogers is going to be out there looking for coins. Kind of in the blood, I guess. Yeah, you said that in episode one. You know,

you kind of alluded to the treasure hunter's spirit that you guys have and your dad has. And I love to hear that. That's great. Oh, yeah. Every time to come out here, we go, we go try to look at for Civil War relics whenever my parents come out here. Haven't done anything yet, but such as Oak Island, such as Finding Bigfoot. Yeah. And we're full circle. Well, listeners out there make Luke's dream come true by sharing this podcast with your friends, telling people about it. Eventually, Luke, when you become the big deal on this show, you can go look for treasures full time. That's the goal, right?

Let's do it. Nate, you are always the big deal, Nate. No. I'm just, I'm here. The washed up deal. Yeah, no. It's the season of Luke Rogers. It's hard to believe you and take you seriously now that your beard is gone.

I know. You guys, you can't see Nate right now, but Nate had a big red beard. I used to give him a hard time about being like one of the giant. and all that, but now's gone. He's a clean shave, and he looks like a pup. I told him he's already shed 15 years. Well, you know, I want to be younger, sleek or faster. 40's the new 20.

Did your kids cry? Did your kids cry when you didn't your beard? Dad, you need to grow the beard back. I don't like this. So it's official. I got to grow up back. Yeah, you do. Well, I'm excited about this episode

because L.A. Marzuli is the treasure hunter of all treasure hunters. 70 years old. He's been doing this a long time. It's cool. emailing him for a while to try to get him on the show, but I have a feeling that this show is sort of on its own course, and people are meant to come on the show when they're meant to come on the show. And this is the best time to have him on the show. So we're going to get him on, talk about aliens,

UFOs, giants, nepholum, you name it. He knows it all. Welcome to the show, Ellie Marzuli. Thanks for being with us. You're an author, lecturer, filmmaker. You've written 12 books, including the Nephilim trilogy. And we've been talking a lot about the giants and the Nephilim on our podcast. One of your books on the trail, the Nephilim, definitive proof of biblical giants. You kind of point readers to evidence that there's been a massive cover-up of the remains of the Nephilim and the giants that are mentioned in the Bible. You've also created a series on the trail of the Nephilim that continues your research with interviews and people with specific knowledge about this subject. And on this show,

it's kind of funny. Luke and I were just joking that we feel like we're on the trail of L.A. Marzuli because every guest has mentioned you and you keep coming up in every episode. So yeah, that's us. You're like the godfather out there. Everybody talks about, you know, I know it from Brian Forster to Tim Havarino, Tug Van Dore, everybody on to a tea.

Fritz, Fritz talked about you. Yeah, Fritz Zimmerman. I'll bring up El-Humar Zuli. And you just had a birthday. 70 years of me. You look great for 70, man. Boy, his grandpa shark. Yeah.

Hard to believe, huh? And you skiing? Gosh, that's what I'm trying to do next month as well. So great to have you. You know, one of the first things we do out there when we get into these shows, the first question we asked our guests. It's a tradition for us is to ask, what are your thoughts on Bigfoot? Oh, well, he's an interventional entity, modern-day napolem.

There's probably two different strains. One of them is very dangerous, utterly demanding. The other one is more friendly, and depending on which ones you get. But they are definitely interdimensional. They can pop in, pop out if you get too close to them, and they don't want you there. They can freeze you in your tracks. They have conical heads.

I believe that they're a hybrid. I believe they can go interdimensionally in and out. And I know that sounds absolutely crazy to most people, but most people don't know anything about the supernatural. So what do you expect? You know, unless a person studies what's a supernatural, the guidebook of a supernatural, i.e. the Bible and understands and comes to grips what's in those pages, because there's stuff that's absolutely wacky. Floating ax-heads, you know, virgin birth, walking on water, water has changed in the

wine, water that stands up as a heap, and on and on and on it goes. I mean, it's wacky. It's crazy. It's completely different from anything that we're used to. That's our bio. Bible. That's our God. So the dark side is very real, and the dark side is Genesis 315, outnumbered. I've often wondered whether Therion, the beasts of the earth, are, in fact, the Bigfoot released. These things can be as big as 12 feet, the bad guys. And we've heard stories. It's all secondhand to me, but I've talked to the people that saw them. I'll just give you one example. This guy had two hunting dogs and he's out in his property, a couple hundred acres. And the dogs are loose and they start going crazy. And they're like he's ascending a hill.

And on the other side of the hills is a valley. Well, he gets to the top and he doesn't hear the dog's barking anymore. And basically the dogs are ripped in half and there's two big foot that are standing there. Like, you know, like 12 feet. Whatever. We've got a shot from a person which I won't disclose from Alaska. Obviously, I can't really do too much with it because I've sworn to secrecy with it. But he photographed unintentionally a very big guy standing in a field, very big guy standing in a field. And, you know, at some point he'll release that. The camera's panning like this.

So it's real quick. And what I did is I took it in the final cut. and I went real slow, I found it, froze it, and then blew it up. Really big guy. But that's just one of many. I talked to a guy that basically lived with him for two years, and the Willow ones would come up and steal stuff out of his trailer and, you know, reach through the window and take things.

I mean, they were very playful. But the bigger guys, apparently there's two groups, and one group was absolutely easy. The other group, not so much. But, you know, it's like it's real. And one more story, these two firemen were joking about, you know, Bigfoot. And they were going to go up and, you know, and show Bigfoot a thing or two. And, you know, they weren't afraid of Sasquatch, blah, blah, blah.

And this woman and this other, this man, they were kind of partnering together. They would go up and they would have, you know, communications with these entities. So they told the firemen that they would take them up. So these two firemen go up, and they got within 50 feet of this thing, and the fireman basically ran off the mountain like little girls crying. Okay? Terrified. Terrified.

The woman that led them there and her protege, they were allowed to go up to the group, but they said it was like walking in molasses. It was like slow motion. They could barely move. So, I mean, yeah, I mean, they can do all sorts of crazy. you stop. Here in Oklahoma, I've been invited to go to places with COVID. Everything shut down. So this year, we've done no research in 2019, nothing, not a stinking thing, which really sucks because we had plans to go X, Y, Z. So now I'm going, I've got like probably 40 hours of

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new customer offer for first three months only, then full price plan options available, taxes and fees extra, cement mobile for details. Well, what do you think happens to the Bigfoot? Do they get introduced into the demonic realm, or are they created specifically as evil entities, or are they? Like chimera? Or what do we, yeah. Guys, it's conjecture at this point, isn't it? I mean, it can be everything that you said and more. We just don't know. Nobody knows. This one man that was in contact with him, for two years has a lot of information with them.

But, you know, everything is, I mean, there's a gentleman I had on my show a while back that published a book. And he was on the hunt for like nine years. And at one point, he finally just goes, they're absolutely evil. So he's on, you know, they're completely utterly demonic. Then you get someone like Mary Joyce,

skyships over cashiers, who's had relationships, with these entities. And well, some are bad, some aren't. So it's like everything. You know, we, we have this much information out of a picture that's, my hands are off the screen. And, you know, unless somebody can sit down, I mean, can you imagine, well, I'm here with, with Glad, who is a Sasquatch, and Glad is going to tell us all about himself and where he's from. So glad, how old are you? I mean, it's just like, it's not going to happen. Right? It's just not going to happen.

So it's hard to get him. One of our first guests said that, you know, he tells a story on his podcast about a boy who made friends with one and they kind of grew up together. Like, it was just really odd. And, you know, we've heard that the ones in East Texas and Oklahoma are actually way more aggressive than a Sasquatch in Pacific Northwest. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you think territories play something? Yeah. We just don't know.

The bottom line is, you know, it's a lot of conjecture, but they are real. And anybody who doesn't think they're real, let me go out and take you to some point. places and when the stones start being lob in your direction at three o'clock in the morning, let's see how much you scoff then, thou. Right. Does this relate to the Nephilim, you think? Or are they just completely different creatures? Absolutely.

No, it's definitely related to the Nephilim. They have conical heads. I mean, even the Gimley-Patterson film clearly shows a conical head. And by the way, we have a digital, I don't know where you guys have this or not. someone, I forget who, they, I forget who it was, but they sent me, they went in,

they went into the widow and she had the original film. He went, he went frame by frame and digitized everything. And so when you see the digitized version of it, it's unbelievable. This is not a guy in an eight suit,

sorry, you know. And you'll notice the big conical head. Yeah. Well, I appreciate that. You, you know, Bigfoot's related to the Nephlin. We started with Bigfoot and we're kind of worked our way to the Giants. And I'd love to hear a little bit more about your life. You've had a really stellar career. You've been involved in this subject for a long time. I've listened to some interviews. You said you saw a UFO when you were 12 years old. Was that the moment in your life? I had an experience like that for music. I saw a band play in a backyard. They played a Nirvana cover when I was 12. And then I had to be in a band and that's what I did until I was. was 30. So I know what that's like. Is that the moment in your life when you're like, this is, you cross the Rubicon, so to speak, and you were, you were never the same? No. No. That was an interesting, that was a, it was a definitive moment. There's no doubt about it. Yeah. But there's another experience that happened much later, which, which was, that was, it was on steroids. I'll tell you about that first. But the UFO encounter 12 on McCamp Horseshoe,

rising sun Maryland and four boys are walking up this this boulder dry creek bed hopping from boulder to boulder was really a blast beautiful warm sunny day I don't know whether it's in the spring or fall I could probably go back to troop 113 records if they have them I should probably really do that to see if I'm let me make a note but we were up there and then these three other guys were in my troop so there might be able might be able might be a a way of, I've never done that before. That's just really, you know, UFO brain fog. Why haven't I done that? So I'm going to, you know, maybe, maybe I can find the other two or three boys and get them on the record. But we were hopping from boulders and we were taking a shortcut. I could take

you right there. It's on the map. The lead guy goes, wow, what's that? The other two guy goes, whoa, what is that? And I go, where? And they go, there. And I look up and it's a classic silver disc. Classic, classic silver disc. Just sitting there. And the sunlight's glinting off of it. And we watch it for maybe 15 and 20 seconds. And this thing just shoots up straight up in the air and out of sight. Just whoosh and it's gone. Just, and we go, whoa, we go back and we saw a UFO.

We saw a flying saucer. And within, that was lunchtime. By the five o'clock dinner meal, the other three boys and I that they had ever seen anything. And it was life-changing in that respect, although I couldn't articulate it. intellectually. But it was my first experience of herd mentality and how people will deny what they've seen in order to be part of a hurt. I, on the other hand, your intrepidosed, refused to go along with their denial. And so I was called every, you know, UFO boy and all sorts of crazy names. That didn't matter. I know what I saw. Yeah. My life's choosing experience. There are many,

but the one that has set me on the path of On the Trail of a Nuffaloam happened with Russ Dizdar. So Russ Dizdar calls me up. I'm headed out to Nurk, Ohio, with this conference. This is years ago, probably about 10, 12 years ago. And Russ goes, hey, a lady, you know where you're going? I go, yeah, I'm going to Newark, Ohio. And he got to know, Russ. He's got this little mischievous chuckle.

And he starts doing his little mischievous chuckle. And he goes, no, do you know where you're going? you're going. I go, yeah, Mark Ohio. He goes, you buy the computer? I go, yep. He goes, Google Nephulam Chronicles, Fallen Angels in the Ohio Valley. I go, what? And I Google it. There's Fritz Zimmerman's book. Yeah. Which once I got off with Ross, I immediately tried to get a hold of Fritz, who's, you know, other than, I can't think of a name right now, other than Epstein's lawyer, he might be the hardest guy in the world to get a hold of. It took about a week to get a But I finally got all of them.

Deep Chris, thanks. And since then, you know, Fritz has been responsible. He's in basically almost the first five of Amitral and Nephilim. We've done a lot of stuff together. We were supposed to go to Stonehenge England together last year, but it didn't work out. He had some medical issues. But we'll get Amitrae again here once COVID lives and start doing stuff.

So anyway, Russ tells me this. Norke, Ohio, great circle now. So I'm at this conference, and there's a driver that's taking me from my hotel to the conference every day. So finally, Sunday morning, I go, look, you know, do you know anything about this great circle mail? And it goes, yeah, you're about to go buy it in about a minute. Sure enough, the car goes by it, and there it is. Norfolk Orth works. And I go, well, after the conference, will you drop me off there?

And he goes, sure. I said, drop me off in the parking lot, come back in about an hour, maybe two. He said, okay, I got my cell phone, call me, and I'll meet you in the parking lot. There's no other cars in the parking lot. It's Sunday afternoon. It's a fall day, all right? Little crisp, but beautiful. And I'm in the parking lot, look around to my left. I noticed this large earthwork, which just goes up maybe 20 feet. And there's an asphalt pathway. And I begin to follow that pathway. And I begin to follow that path. way up. And the right of me, I see this little small building, which I'm assuming is some sort of museum or whatever. And I get up there and look at that and I look to my left and there's the entrance to the Great Circle Mount. And I walk up to the entrance and I freeze. I just stand there

frozen in time and I'm hyperventilating. And I'm just like, I won't move a muscle. And I'm like, I'm like this looking from side to side. Every cell in me is like just screaming, vibrating. And I realize this is my future. What I'm looking at is the rest of my life, essentially. It was one of those defining moments, which was just never had a moment like that. And when I say hyper-ventil, I was like this,

afraid to move. Afraid the move. It was that riveting. I mean, that profound. It was unbelievable. And I didn't understand what I was looking at at the time. And then, of course, we've gone back and gone back. And now I know some of it.

There's still a lot more of that's hidden. But yeah. And so what happened to the Circle mound? And what have you learned about that place? Because it's fascinating to me after talking to Fritz about all the mounds and its connection to giants and all the supernatural. And what have you learned about that place after that was a seminal moment for you? Well, it's first of all, it's a charged place.

It's ceremonial. It's very similar to the great circle mound in England, which we visited last year, which we haven't done anything with. And that circle mound is larger than the circle mound here. And we see it's the same culture, in my opinion. Of course, archaeologists, oh, it's not the same. Just coincidence. There's nothing to see here. Keep moving.

So there's actually this huge mounds called Silbury Hill. And I flew a drone around it, and I'm standing in front of it. And I look at the camera and go, am I in Ohio? somewhere else. Yeah. And I'm in England. It's a huge dina mound, huge mound. And the same thing with the circle mound there is larger than the circle mound in Nurk, Ohio.

And the moat around it is deeper, much, much deeper, and it's made of chalk. And that stuff's really hard to dig. I mean, really hard to dig. So we spent a full day there. obviously, it's, you know, it's just, you scratch the surface. You could spend a week. And then you talk, whenever you talk to a mainstream archaeologist, all they're doing is pirating what they've learned and what they've heard. They've never, most of them have never actually done any field research themselves, most. Some of them have, and even then, the ones that are doing research, I remember

we were in Israel at a place called Tel Gezer, and we were talking to archaeologists there. and it's the same old thing. These guys are scraping, you know, the little, and I get that. I've done that. I've been on sites. You know, we're taking a brush and we're scraping things and putting them into a dust pan

and then sifting it to see if we can find a little, you know, nap poop out of pepper. I understand that. Meanwhile, a quarter of a mile away on the site are these line of standing zones at Tel Gezer. Okay? Oh, well, that's just, you know, I'm playing some of solstice.

I'm going, oh, my gosh. They missed the whole point of it. And the tunnel at Telgezer, right, which is 20-thi-high, this is all in the film, Amitrave and Nephilim, I think it's in either five or six. I think it's five. Yeah, it's five. I'm sorry, four or five. We're talking about America Stonehenge. So there's this 20-foot-high tunnel, which goes deep into the earth.

There are standing stones inside a tunnel. There are niches in the wall. Obviously, something's going on. tunnel went like this, it went further, but they were afraid to explore it because they were afraid of caveans. And I look at the archaeologists and I said, that's where you need to go. All you're going to do here is find the typical stuff. You'll find some pardy shards, you'll find some beads, you know, I get that. I said, the real find is in that tunnel. And then we asked on camera, we asked the archaeologist, why does a five foot six

canaanite guy need a 20 foot high tunnel? and he kind of goes, yeah, we're still trying to figure that out. This is a Nephilim, it's a Nephilim stronghold. Tell Gezer, it's on a high place, the standing stones, the altar to bow, which held blood in it. I mean, are you freaking kidding me? It's all there. But because these people, these archaeologists and anthropologists, they don't believe in the biblical narrative. and when they reference it, they reference it,

you know, well, you know, we don't believe in the supernatural, but the Bible talks about the Kenanites being a Nufflin tribe, blah, blah, blah. You know, it's like, are you kidding me? And then we find the same bough stone, the same worship of bough, all the way over in New Hampshire, America's stone hands. And the archaeologist still will look at that. Well, let's just, that's probably a forgery. Someone probably, you know, forged that, that Iberian punic on the stone buried it,

And then, you know, when they dug it up, it sat in the museum for 11 years because no one could translate it. Oh, yeah, I'm really going to make a lot of money on that hoax, right? I'm going to fool a lot of people with that one. It's just nonsense. Nonsense. Why do you believe that is? I mean, you know, you talk about being young and the herd mentality, all your friends denied seeing the UFO. Are these strong delusions is just ignorance?

Is there something, is there like a veil there that they're believing lies? I mean, all the above? It's all the above. And then it's this. Most people will not believe, well, first of all, if you're an archaeologist and you're a degree, for the most part, you're an ardent Darwinist. You have to be. If you're going to do anything, other, even that or become a biblical archaeologist. Because you've got to toe the party line.

Every archaeologist I've ever talked to, after I get frustrated after about the first 30 seconds, you know, I'll usually wait until about minute 20 if it goes that long. I'll let the dialogue go and we'll spar and go back and forth. And he has all the typical answers that he learned in school. And finally, I'll just go, let me ask you something. You're a Darwinist, aren't you? He goes, well, yeah. I go, you don't believe in the supernatural? Well, no, I'm spiritual. I go, well, what's that mean? And immediately, they're an intellectual concrete because they're in the four walls of a Darwinian parent. paradigm where there is no supernatural. So they can't go there. Because if they go there, they're violating their own protocol of their club. So they can't go there. Where someone like me,

you know, who didn't go through archeological school, thank God, can go wherever I want to go. It's just like our work on the DNA with the paraca skulls. We've got samples. And if you're anybody out there that knows of a DNA lab who will process them, we've got samples. And we can't get them process because the labs won't touch us now. If they hear Marzuli, if they're off the skulls, they won't do it. Brian Forster talked a little bit about that on our episode with him. And we kind of asked him some spiritual questions. What are some conversations you've had with him? Because I know he's a little reluctant to put a biblical narrative on it. But yet he's in the arena talking about these skulls, talking about the oddities in ancient history. I'm sure you guys

have gone back and forth about that a little bit, right? Well, you know, we have. is, he has his own worldview. It's not, not that he's anti-Christian, but he certainly doesn't embrace it. He doesn't really expound on it. You know, he'll talk about the paraca skulls and with all due respect to Brian,

you know, who's, without Brian, we never would have gone there. It was Brian YouTube video, which led me to shoot him an email. But we had a donor that donated a ton of money to us, which enabled us to bring a team down and extract it. It was

finding our archaeologist Mando Gonzalez, who wrote the paperwork, which was very voluminous and very detailed, which got us the proper permits. And we went down and extracted the DNA. Now, Brian was instrumental in that because he hooked us up with Ruben Garcia-Soto. That were Brian's involvement. And Brian did a great job on that. But it was our team that actually did the extraction. It was we found the labs. Our team found more than specifically like me. I had three labs that I contracted and all of the DNA went through that. And we presented our findings, but they're still inconclusive in the sense that we were never able to get nuclear DNA. So we don't know the paternal side of the equation. But in the new film,

DNA in the final results, which is number six, and on the trail of Nephilim. And it's basically a seven year, it's taking seven years of research and condensing it into an hour. It was a really hard film the edit. But it moves very quickly. And I think anyone who's interested in this, right now it's the go-to film. There's no doubt. Nobody else has anything like it. It is the go-to film, which shows the progression. And then we've got doctors and chiroprackers and surgeons and optometrists and archaeologists come on the record. This is all new material.

Who examine these skulls and just go, you know, this is not human. whatever this is, it's genetic and it's not human. And I'll show you why. Since we're into that, he's going to go out. He's pulling out some skulls. Skulls and baracus. It's a replica.

And Joe Taylor is the man who does this. So that's what it looks like. This is called the cinnamon skull because of the color, the cinnamon skull. And it's conical. We talked about that with Bigfoot, right? This is great. Elie Marzuli. We're on Zoom.

them, and we have a skull out. It's not a real one. The fact you just pull it out is fantastic. And he's smiling next to it. I love it. Look at the eyes off. Look at the orbits. They're 25 to 30 percent large of an human being. They had night vision. Wow. They had night vision.

According to optometrics. Is that because they went underground? We think exactly. See, Brian doesn't know this, but we were out at a place in the reserve with another archaeologist with Tim Albarino. And we discovered the archaeologist took us to one of the Paracus homes. It's a chimney like, which goes down into the earth. And I asked the archaeologist, I said, well, is there any evidence of torchmarks?

He goes, no. How did they see? He goes, we don't know. Welcome to Peru where nothing gets done. Absolutely nothing gets done. Yeah, I can't stand it. They make his big stink about, oh, you need the permit, you need this, you need that. Oh, my gosh, red tape, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Nothing gets done. And that's why, if you want to know where socialism goes, go down to Peru. Because of the two-class system, the elites and then everybody else is equally poor. Very small and middle class, very small, if that. But look at the orbit, but I digress. Look at the orbits. Oh, huge. Yeah.

25 to 30% bigger. Look at the top of the skull. There's no, there's no, there's no, fabulous suture here. Yeah. Yep. Right? That's crazy. One is the work of our anthropologist Rick Woodward.

So a normal, this is the foramen magnum right here, okay? So you can see that it's been filled in, and then Joe Taylor makes a hole. So he can put the dowel in so the thing can sit like this. All right. But you can see that the foramen magnum is here. And let me try it this way. And then this area, the ridge is what the foramen magnum looks like. These are called the foramen condials right here,

Ramon condiles. This whole thing should be moved about here. That's where it should be on a normal skull. It's not. It's not. It's all the way to the occipital, the rear plate. If it's any further back, it's outside the skull. Any further back, it's outside the skull.

So this is the work of our anthropologists on our team, Rick Woodward. So what did they make of that early? What they're saying? It can't possibly be cranial. You know, you can't move the foramen. Now, let me show you something. You can't move the foramen and agony. It's impossible.

I love it. He's just got skulls hanging out in his hat. I just love it. I don't pull this briefcase out. I can tell me to show you. Yeah. Here's a human skull. Good evening.

I mean, obviously, this is a, this is a replica, but look at the placement of the foramen magnet. It's very central. Look, look where it is. I'll be it until you can see it. I mean, if you're looking at this and you're a scientist, how do you go back? How do you, how do you go back inside the matrix? Well, I mean, they, and this is what's problematic.

There's a club in academia in the scientific community. And if you go against the prevailing paradigm, you're out of the club, okay? We showed this in our very first film, Amitrail of a Neffleon, Mysterious Man Builders, where we had a guy that worked at a university in California, Mr. Armertage, He basically was fired from his job because he published a paper in a secular periodical on his work on a trisopterus horn. So he goes out to a place called, I think it's called Hell's Kitchen in Montana, and he's out there with a team, and they're looking for fossils,

and he finds this large trisopterus horn, okay? He takes it back to his left, and he cuts it open, and he takes a sample and puts it under a scanning electron microscope. He finds soft tissue in the trisopterus horn. Well, we all know that if it's 40 million years old, there can't possibly be soft tissue. Soft tissue, soft tissue, soft tissue. He publishes what he finds. Doesn't talk about Young Earth or his religious background or anything else like this.

He just says, this is what I found. Soft tissue, how could that be? And it was fast-tracked to get published, and it publishes it. So this guy who's an ardent Darwinist walks in and says, we'll have none of this religion in this in our scientific department you're fired so he's fired but he didn't talk about his religion in the paper okay that's crazy he just talked to science yeah this is what we're up against so anyway he won a he won the court case they settled out of court there is a bias in academia and in the scientific community it's anti-supernatural it's anti-god

it's ardent darwinian if you don't hold to that paradigm you're an outcasts good luck on trying to get a job anywhere. So you started this whole thing by seeing a UFO at 12. I think this isn't kind of put, I would love to get your take on this and kind of put a bow on where we've been with our show to this point is we started with Bigfoot. We talked about Bigfoot. You started your journey with seeing a UFO. Now, first question is how, in your mind, how does the UFO phenomenon and this fit into your worldview being a biblical worldview, which Nate and I share? And then how does that all relate to the Nephilim and the giants? And how do all these things interrelate?

Because I know this is your life's work. And I would love to get it taken. Because we haven't really talked a lot about UFOs. Tim Albino talked about it briefly and talked about grays and stuff. And that was really the first we kind of delved into that. But we do know that a lot of our Bigfoot guests have said there's, you know, quote, UFO or strange sort of UFO activity to surround the Bigfoot, right? So this is not a new thing we're bringing in. But how does this all tie together in your mind?

Well, this is what I've been doing. I talk about this at conferences. I have what I would say is a unified theory because, first of all, the springboard to it is the biblical narrative. So because I'm a student of the Bible and because I'm born again in Spirit-filled and because I believe in Jesus, I have the key to open up the pages of the Bible. If you're not born-again and Spirit-filled, good luck, because you won't make any sense at all. I mean, you'll get to Genesis 315 and go, I have no idea what that means. And so I'm always looking for a unified theory, and everything dovetails together.

It all goes back to hell's kitchen. It all goes back to the fallen chair. And the problem with the modern-day church, they have a very truncated view of the supernatural. So they don't, you know, well, you know, they really are, they don't make anything there. UFOs must be just demonological in the sense that they're an illusion. There's really no nuts and bolts craft. Well, the answer to that is when you look at Ezekiel, when the angels are dispatched, they have slaughter weapons with them. And there's another guy with this magic inkhorn.

What the heck? That's technology. It's technology. When the New Jerusalem descends, hello, you were talking about the mothership of all motherships coming down. That's what it is. I mean, it's suspended in the air. It's coming down on the earth, right? So the church has this really truncated view of a supernatural.

Well, they don't understand that it all, all of this hails back and goes back to hell's kitchen. It goes back to the fingerprints of the dragon. UFOs are real, burgeoning and not going away. The enemy uses these all day long. They are craft. They are nuts and bolts craft. They are constructed in another dimension and flown in here. Perhaps, and this is conjecture, because the grays are.

are the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim, okay? The graze are biological constructs. They are just biological suits where the demons can inhabit. But demons are not flesh and blood. Demons are the disembodies of the nephaline. That's what demons are. That's what you've got the nephalium on the earth. They're destroyed in the flood.

They become a spirits that wander the earth. They become demons. Fallen angels are not demons. And demons are not fallen angels. So the demons need something to, the demonic realm needs something to manifest in our reality. So the slave and the dragon creates this biological construct known as the gray, right? And that way they can interface with these things and they can manifest. Why do I say that?

Because in Woodley Streber's book, it's either in communion or the one after that. He talks about wandering around on the ship, opening up this drawer. and seeing the shells of the graves. And he's going like, what, what is this? Oh, wow. Shells? And he's never been able to figure it out. Well, I mean, I remember talking to the late David Flynn about this

when I finally got to that point. And, you know, this is the deal. The research takes you down rabbit holes that you don't want to go down. Yeah. And this was certainly one that I didn't want to go down. And I remember getting up and then backing away, getting up and backing away. Getting up and backing away. Finally, I said, that's it.

It's got to be this. And I called up the late David Flynn. I go, David, I got to talk you about something. What if the Roswell crash is actually deliberate? What if that the enemy doesn't care if so-called alien bodies are retrieved because they're just shells anyway? He goes, L.A., I've never talked about this publicly, but that's what I believe. So we concurred that the grays are like an avatar. Like an avatar, exactly.

Yeah, so Tim, Tim Alberino, he didn't think that they were demons. He was specifically like, they're not demons or something else. I think he said drones. Isn't that they've already used? Like they're like biological drones? And it's almost like what L.A. is saying, I remember Tim was saying they're not demons specifically say that on. And I was a little bit like, huh? Interesting.

And that's fine. You know, we don't, look, when was last time anybody sat down with a gray? You're right. You're really, really. I mean, so right now we're all, it's all conjecture. And Tim may be right. I don't know. That's where I've arrived at. That's what makes the most sense to me at this point in time. Yeah, I mean, and we could talk about, I mean, I was joking with Luke before this. We could call this show blurry creatures. We could call it DNA Wars because that's been sort of the theme of what we've been on, the DNA Wars. I was listening to you in one interview and you kind of made. it sound like when you become a Christian, it sounded like you were saying your DNA changes. And so do you think a lot of people read the Bible and they just, they haven't had a DNA change and they can't read it because they can't make sense of it because of that?

The only way you can read the Bible is if you're born again in Spirit's Phil. Because the Spirit of a Living God quickens you to what's in those pages. And then when you're reading, look, I mean, sometimes I'll sit like I'm doing like right now, for I am convinced that either death nor life, there are demons, nor angels, nor height, nor death, no powers, nor any, everything will keep us from a love of God. So today, my Bible study, Holy Spirit, let, was, what do you think heights and depths mean? I don't know. Oh, there you go.

Go look it up. And that's what I did. And so what it really, what it can mean is spiritual powers in high places and spiritual powers. and spiritual powers below the earth. I mean, both heights or depths. So it was just, you know, but did I do that intellectually? Well, if I was, you know, an ardent Darwinist that didn't believe in the supernatural,

and I was a psychologist, I said, well, that's because you're curious, your mind is curious. And you told yourself, you were going to do this. This has nothing to do with this Holy Ghost guy or whatever he is. Right? I had to break with reality. Nonsense. You know, the Spirit of Living God comes into us as believers and begins to lead us in all truth. Yeah.

That's what Jesus tells us. He tells us that if I don't go, the comforting will come and he will lead you and me in all truth. Well, that's what it is, but we have to be open to it. Right. It's the revealing, right? It's the revealing of knowledge. Is this why we call it a revelation, right? It's revealing of scripture. And the more I get in the script, the more I realize, otherwise, I don't know Dooley's caught. After 40 years. It's like, oh, my gosh. It's just unbelievable.

I went out with my pastor, Pastor Ken, a couple of days ago. We sat down, we had lunch. We talked for an hour and a half nonstop. And it could have gone on for another hour and a half. All we did was just talk scripture. This is what's a crack up. If you get a third guy that isn't important, and I don't mean, with all due respect,

But let's say, Pastor Ken and I are here, and you had a guy sitting at that table who wasn't born again in spirit filled, we would have no idea of what we were talking about. None. And I've actually seen this before. And I won't mention any names, but Mando Gonzalez and I were down in Peru. And we were the gentleman who was not born again in spirit filled. And we were at the dinner table. And Mando and I were just going at it, just iron, sharp and iron and talking about, you know, trading. stuff and it was just a great conversation. And I looked over at my friend and realized he had no idea.

He couldn't keep up, couldn't track with us, didn't know. So I think that when a person becomes born again, a spirit filled, I do believe that something changes in their DNA. Something changes in their DNA. In other words, before we're born again, we're locked into the kingdom of the dragon. And Paul talks about that in so many words that were controlled by the flesh. We were in league with the Prince of the Power of the Air. And we are. We're in league with the Prince of the Power of the Air. So when we're born again, we leave that kingdom and be moving to the kingdom and be moving God. And he begins to make us with the image and likeness of the son. And that's why I think there was a DNA change. Absolutely. Right. It's a burn of the

Curse of Adam. So we're born under that and into that. Question, follow up with that. In 2017, you went on Tucker Carlson and talked about the full disclosure of UFOs. And we've seen a lot happened since then with the guy in Israel talking about how there's communication between governments and these extraterrestrials and all that. And I know you're a guy who was big on prophecy based on your works as well. How is this playing into what you think? think is happening and is going to happen down down the way with with all of this you guys need to go out and get this book run run to the to our website and order it because it's happening UFO disclosure this book was written after after the Tucker Carlson show with commanded david favor in 2017

this book is a result of that and i went oh my gosh and i wrote it i wrote the chapters down on a on a on a napkin on the way back from a conference. And it's a very short book. It's, what is it, 150 pages, maybe, 155 pages. But it will arm you as a believer, and even as a non-believers, what's going on? This is the coming great deception. And we are already into it.

I don't know you guys know about this, but in the on-thumous bill that was just recently passed, Congress basically read the Riot Act to the military, the Pentagon basically said you got 180 days to come clean on what you guys know about UFOs 180 days last night on Tucker Carlson they have a producer Jamie Fox of the phenomena the film on UFOs as well as several other guests and clips from the film we are on rung number six now run number six run number one was commanded david favor on Tucker Carlson 2017 when Tucker Carlson asked him, in your opinion, what was this craft, this tick-tac-shaped UFO that you saw?

Commander David Frazier looks right at the camera, national TV, and says, whatever this was, was not of this world. That's wrong number one on the disclosure ladder. Run number two, Luis Alizando appears once again on Tucker Carlson. Tucker's the gateway for the information. Why? Because conservative Christians who are religious watch Tucker Carlson. And so it's still They want to see what the reaction is. What's the reaction? Nothing. Flatline. So run number two is Luis Elizzo stating that the United States has in its possession metal from crashed UFOs. Run number two. Run number three is when they come out once again on Tucker Carlson saying that we've analyzed the metal. And there's isotopes in the metal that are not found on this planet. Wrong number four is the Pentagon saying that UAP's unidentified aerial phenomena.

So they just switch up instead of calling it UFO, unidentified flying objects, unidentified aerial phenomena. And that's supposed to be okay, right? Sure, it is guys double speak, never a straight answer in NASA. So that's run number four when the Pentagon says that unidentified aerial phenomenon is real. Wrong number five is when the government admits that they have in their possession off-world vehicles. We have in our possession off-world vehicles. Excuse me, what world are we talking about?

And oh, by the way, who are the people on these other worlds, right? 5.2 is when, once again, on Tucker Carlson, commanded David Freyro's on, and he's adding new information about his encounter with the tick-attack-shaped UFO. And he said when he went at this thing, this object jammed his radar. That's an act of war. It's an act of war. Okay. So we are now on wrong number six, which is Tucker Carlson once again last night talking about the movie phenomenon. But then today we get, we now realize that the government has 180 days to come clean on what they know about UFOs to Congress. They want everything.

So Congress doesn't even know. Soon. Soon. Well, there's a lot of talk, too, L.A., about, you know, is Trump going to declassify everything on his way out? Like, just do a sweeping declassification of all this secret info. First of all, there's a prophecy. Yeah.

He will be reelected, in my opinion. Me too. He will be reelected. That's what I think. Yeah. I mean, it really is a war between the deep state, releasing this. information in Trump right now, right? It is. Well, it's unbelievable. And if they get away with it, you can kiss the country as we know. Oh, yeah. There's no more America. There's no more 1776.

There's no American experiment. It's over. Yeah. And American experiment is over. And this is when we will see a, no matter what happens, we're on the verge of a civil war anyway. I agree. Yeah. And you've got these recovery measures with the COVID vaccine. You will not be able to travel unless you've got the COVID vaccine. So that's where this is going. I'm not going to take the COVID vaccine. I don't know what the heck's in it. Thank you. That's where all this is going. So what you were just talking about previously is a question I have a lot with a lot of friends. There's like this intellectual crowd who's pushing progressive Christianity. And are they heretics, people who are pushing this, you know, one size fits all, all religions work, the Bible, Jesus,

this was, you know, didn't have a really definitive message. I mean, when do you cross the, when are you actually like working for the dragon, I guess? Like, how do we know we got good information and how do we know when we're not being used? Yeah, I mean, the moment, the moment people, all cults would do two things. They will say, well, he was a good man, but he really wasn't God. And they'll say the work of the cross wasn't necessary. They always go out for two things. So anybody who says, well, he was just a good guy, really wasn't God.

then, you know, right away there's a huge flag. So if anyone who says the work of the cross wasn't necessary, once again, huge red flag. And to make this whole amalgamation that, you know, Christlam, somehow Christianity is compatible with Islam, that's absolute heresy, in my opinion. It's complete and other heresy. It's heretical in every possible way. The two are absolutely incompatible. Absolutely incompatible.

Well, that's the deception, right? The deception is the, is relativism that all roads lead to Rome, and that's the exact opposite of what Jesus said. The exact opposite. The only way through the father is through him. And that's what he says it himself. That's it. That's it. Man.

So what is the next, what's the next wrong in this ladder? It's going to be the complete, like the complete declassifying of all this information. And then what? Is there going to be? I think. And I was talking to talking. elder brother Gary Steerman today, because we talk about this once a week, twice a week, sometimes. In fact, I'll probably go on prophecy watch us next week and talk about the six

runs of disclosure because it's time. The church needs to try to wake up and Gary understands that. The church really needs to understand what they're facing. If we're in lockdown and states are already locked down and countries over in Europe are locked down, perfect time for them to show up. run number seven will most likely be footage from Roswell or another crash site and they'll probably trot some former guy general somebody like that out and they'll show the film and they'll say we've known about them it's time and Roswell was real and they'll have all this stuff they are friendly and they've given us some technology and they're going to reveal themselves soon, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But they'll actually show the photograph or the film. And that's

the game changer, because at that point, it takes it from, you know, talking heads. And even though they're saying it's real, even though they're coming out with, we have off-world vehicles, once they show the video, that's when the church will sit there. Then everybody in the pews will be going, well, what am I looking at? What am I looking at that? Pastor. And the pastor will be going, well, I don't know, well, you know, because they didn't do their homework. Shame on them. Yeah. And they never wanted to address it and they laughed at it. When they show up, that's the ultimate game changer that will cause the great falling away that we read about in Second Thessalonians. Departure. The end of Revelation then, is that also what we've seen in Revelation is a lot of, is that

contact and do you think that's how the Antichrist rises? And I mean, Tim talked a bit about that. Yeah, well, like Chuck Messler used to talk about the Antichrist boasting of an alien connection, and I believe he will. I believe he's also walking around the planet right now. We don't know who he is, but I think he's there. And he'll rise up. I also think, and Gary Stearman believes us too, but the Ten Kings are not what we think they are. The Ten Kings are Google, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube. The owners of those companies are for Ten Kings. You can go write down a list and find your Amazon, right? You can find your 10 kings. They rule the planet, and they will give their power to this one particular entity at some point.

Do you think that Trump sped up this process? Because, you know, from everything I've read, like Hillary Clinton was their president, and it didn't happen. And that the plan was thwarted, and nobody in the system could actually see what they were watching as Trump takes presidency. did he speed up this this agenda to get UFOs more to disclose faster or it was all planned you think i think it was all planned regardless of who was president but trump was never supposed to be president yeah which which is why they they didn't need to use the algorithms that they used to steal the 2020 election they didn't need need to use the dominion software because she was up 15 16 points they figured you know we don't have to do this because um

you know, Trump won. What's interesting, someone, I did this on my own daily show today. So there's 133 million registered voters, okay? Trump got 74 million of that leaves 54 million, whatever, 55 million, 59 million for Joe Biden. So how does that work? Where is the, where are these extra votes? I mean, there it is right there.

Yeah. There's 133 million registered voters. Trump gets 74, right? So that leaves, you know, $59 million for Joe. So he didn't win Trump won by a landslide. But somehow Joe Biden gets more votes. It's the biggest fraud that's ever been perpetrated. And I keep saying on my own show, we need to hit the pause button.

We're not going forward here. Guys like Brigham, you know, quoting Shakespeare like he's some intellectual, which I'm sure he is, but he's just a big coward. He's just another rhino and a suit that's been on Fox News. really too long, as all these guys are. You know, take a hike. That's why Fox is taking 40% because those of us are looking at this going, this is nonsense, and we're not going to go go goose stepping off into a new world order. I'm not going to do it. Yeah. And that's what this is all about, right? Like, you know, half my Christian friends are like anti-Trump, and I'm just trying to

tell them, like, you're not thinking about the world chess game right now. You're just thinking about his Twitter feed. Trump doesn't speak to their intellectual side, right? Like, Obama. And did. Obama spoke to the intellectuals. It didn't matter if he bombed the Middle East to death. As long as he spoke pretty, everyone liked him, right? Trump doesn't speak the intellectual language and everyone who's been educated can't stand him because of that, but I'm like, it feels like they're missing the big picture. And the point is he's not a globalist. They are. No, he's not a globalist. No one's got anything on him. He's not part of the secret societies. He's not Bathhouse Barry and, you know, all the other stuff there.

that Obama is legend. And one thing I've always wanted to ask you, L.A., and I've been listening to your stuff for a long time, and it's cool. You get to know somebody from a distance, and it's really great to talk to you today. But people come to you with PTSD because they've been abducted. They've had implants.

They've had all kinds of things, and they don't have a lot of people they can talk to. Same thing goes with Bigfoot guys. They see a Bigfoot and their whole world changes, and who do they go to? They don't have anyone to turn to. Do you feel like you're sort of a, a counselor for people who've had these UFO abductions and experiences?

Yeah, part of what we do, which is not steamed by the public, obviously, is praying with people, talking with people, helping people out of the experience, and we always point the way to Jesus. I mean, that's the key. But some people, you know, the experiences are life-shattering. There was one woman that heard me on coast to coast, and, you know, she talked, She's an experienceder, and they communicate with her daily voice to skull, the whole deal. She can go out and summon them in tears pictures.

And she's shown me, I mean, pictures of the gray, so hold nine yards, whole nine yards. And I look at it. I said, yeah, I get that, but these entities will kill you. They will eventually kill you. And she goes, yeah, you know, I'm losing weight. I can't sleep. They won't let me sleep. And I just, I let it move a Lord.

And it broke it off. It broke it off. However, even after it broke off, she could. tell when they were near. She could still feel when they were trying to come and get her, and she would have to pray and rebuke it. I said Tim talked about that, that there is still, you know, just because you have a spiritual conversion, that it's not a blanket, magical wand. It's not. What's the craziest story that someone's come to you with an abduction? What's the thing that put the hair on your back, your neck, stand straight up? Like, what are those

moments you've, you've been 50 years into this? What's something that just really you couldn't make sense of. Well, I mean, that's a really good question. I mean, it's, you know, after, after a while, you've kind of heard it all. I think one of the, we covered this in the film in their own words, which I'm reediting, by the way. It's my first independent film. So I'm actually in the process of re-editing that film and me releasing it because it just, you know, the, a lot of information, but it needs to be re-edited. I've learned so much more. I mean, I've done nine films on my own since since Richard Shaw and I parted company amicably from the Watcher series because I wanted to go one way and he wanted to go another way.

And so, you know, we did 10 films together and Richard passed away. There'll be two years ago this August. So, you know, the time flies. But so Al Matthews was the centerpiece of the film. And at the time when I went up to Vancouver to interview Al, I didn't realize he was going to be the centerpiece of the film, but he became the centerpiece. And he talks about this,

contact with a woman, Diana, who was a hybrid. When she took her glasses off, the eyes shake shifted when she went to kiss him and he pushed her away and that whole deal. That was pretty unnerving. I mean, they're all about the same level. It's high strangeness.

A man goes out in an ATV to spot deer. He's going to go deer hunting. Tell us his wife, I'll be back in a half an hour. He never shows up. She calls search and rescue. They find the ATV whose boat's 30 feet up in a tree. What the heck is a shoe doing 30 feet up in a tree? They have a pond next to them.

They dive the pond. They look everywhere. Three days go by. They find him in an area that they've already searched underneath this brush by the pond. Next to him's a dead rattlesnake. The rattlesnake, all the internal organs, it's like it's been like all the blood's been sucked completely out of it. He's there. It's like a cadaver. It's like a cadaver.

All the blood and he's got marks all over him, like cattle mutilation marks, except it's human mutilation. And they take the body, no corner, they take the body, they ship it out, they bring it back to the family in a welded steel casket. A welded steel casket. A welded casket. You don't get used to them, but you realize that the enemy knows no bounds.

All he ever brings is death and destruction. That's his calling heart. And did he attack you? Death and destruction. Do you feel attacked all the time? Like this stuff's coming at you? Oh, yeah. And what are some stories there?

Like, is anything flowing at the wall out? Like, has it gotten real weird? Like, you're in some of these places and stuff starts moving, or is it just in your mind? When I was in Fatima, I was here. most volatile spiritual warfare I've ever encountered. Remember, I'm in Fatima making a movie about Fatima. And there's this ancient entity which has been over Portugal for thousands of years has never been deposed. Goddess worship. And around 3 o'clock in the morning, this thing comes at me. And I curl up my wife's next to me. And I curl up in a little fetal position and basically, for the next hour, try everything

in the book to shake it off. I can't shake it off. And I go to Valora and I go, I'm out of here in the morning. I can't do this film. I can't find somebody else to do it. I can't do it. And Malora told me, trust the process at 3 in the morning,

which is not something I wanted to hear. Right. I feel like I had like an hour's sleep. I'm like not on my game. And I'm talking to this historian, philosopher. And I ask him, I say, what was here before the Christian era? It goes, oh, well, that we had goddess worship, the goddess mora. Well, what was she? Well, it was serpent worship. There's a serpent again. And she would have sex with the men and then kill them. And serpent

worship was still alive and well in northern Portugal. And at the time, we're in Porta. We're in northern Portugal. So the point being that ancient goddess was never deposed. And it came at me that night and very intense. Wow. I mean, absolutely. When I say debilitating, I mean debilitating. And Tim talked a little bit about that, that's what, you know, principalities, dominions are. That's a principality.

Yeah. What I came up with was a principality. Just not your normal every day running the demon where you can stand up against and clear the air. This was a whole different story. You're walking into like a whole kingdom. Yeah. The Lord's given me something recently to counteract that, which is really interesting. And it happened by accident one night.

I won't give you the particulars. But it has to do with worship. And isn't it funny, it goes back to the biblical narrative when they took the ark in front of the army and they worship the Lord. And then the enemy was pushed back. And so that's what I do is nothing, you know, woo-woo or secretive. It's just I'm in worship and I feel his presence in ways that I've never felt and push back, push back to darkness. Yeah, I mean, the further we get into this information, on a much smaller level, I've been feeling it more and more myself that the further this show plows on, the more information I learn, I'm having weirder dreams. Yeah, you will.

Days when I feel like, I feel just this crazy negativity just hit me out like a wave and I'm like, whoa, and I have. to stop and think about it. Like, what are we getting ourselves into here, Luke? And I know that as it goes on, it's good to hear from you. The battle takes place right here. And the thoughts that come in are unwanted and they come in from nowhere. You're not generating those thoughts. So the thoughts are coming into your mind from the enemy. And they're always horrific. They're always horrific. Murder, mayhem, whatever. Is there like a actual creature, like a demon on your shoulder, whispering into your ear if you could see it? Do you think that there would be something? It's being sent. It's being spoken. It's being sent to you by the powers of darkness, absolutely. It's being sent to torment you, to keep you from, to debilitate you and me to keep us from what we're doing. You know, I've gone through periods where, you know, I'll tell you one more story. I've got to go. It's 210. I was under major spiritual warfare for like three years. I mean, just really intense. And I got to go. I got to. I was under major spiritual warfare for like three years. I mean, just really intense. And I got.

got to the point where I was going to lay my ministry down. So, Lord, I'm not doing this anymore. Can't do it. I'm sorry. Can't do it. Not doing it. Not going to do it. I wasn't going to do it. And I said, I need to see a sign. I know I'm not supposed to ask for a sign, but I'm not doing this anymore. I need a sign. So this is what I want. And this is when I was in California. I used to go running on Zuma Beach. So I would park the car on Pacific Coast Highway. I'd jump over a little railing fence that they have there and walk across the 50 yards of asphalt, there'd be a sea wall, then the sand, then the ocean. So it's the road, the parking lot, the seawall, the sand, and the ocean. Every day, I go down and I do my run. I say, Lord, I just want to see a whale, because I've been

living there for like, you know, over 40 years, I've seen one whale in 45 years. And I said, I want to see the whale breach. I want to see them come up and breach. That's my son. need my son. Okay? So I go down and I fasted and prayed, do my run, no whale, get in the car, drive up the highway, keep looking at the ocean, no whale, go up my undisclosed canyon road, or the road to my undisclosed occasion deep in the heart of the Senate, one of the mountains, no whale. The next morning I come down. I'm feeling bum. I'm under duress from the enemy. I get to the parking lot. All right, I get to the side of the road. Pacific Coast Highway, and I start walking across the asphalt, looking at the ocean. And I see

not one, not two, but three whales, all breached at the same time. Three whales. That's amazing. And I ran down. I ran across the parking lot, ran to the sand, ran to the ocean, hands up in the air, yelling at the top of my lungs. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Lord. I love that. Yeah, you ask for one to get three. Isn't it how God does stuff? Yeah, you can't make this stuff up. So you know what? The Lord's given me something recently, a weapon, which I never had before, and that weapon is worship, but it's different than anything I've ever experienced.

And I don't know how long it will last. It's none of my business, but it's there, and I thank him for it. I think we're in unprecedented times, and I think that we need to stand, and we need to warn people what's coming. And I have one more question. I just want to know, are we going to be, are we going to be a real thing? round for this? Are we going to be gone? I believe, taken away. staunchly in the pre-tribulation rapture.

Pretty true. Because, yeah, the Lord took me 40 years ago when I was a brand new Christian, in the body or out of the body, I cannot tell, all right? But I was literally in a scene for three seconds, and I'm riding this white horse, and I'm holding, there's no saddle, there's no, no, no reins. I'm holding onto the white horse's name. And I'm in this huge retina. knew, this army. And it's not like this. The armies of heaven are stacked up like a 10, 20-story building. Armies of heaven all up like this, stacked up, and we're in a horseshoe shape. And the rider on the white horse is in the center. And we're all around the rider on the white horse, Jesus. And we're going down like this. I was there for three seconds. So I know I'm there.

and the armies of having followed him dressed in fine linen, white and clean. I was there, folks, for three seconds. I'm not making this up. I've only been taken twice in 40 years. That was the one time I was taken. The first time I was taken. Brand new Christian, had never read Revelation 19, had no idea where I was.

And I talk about that, the rider on the white horse. And so the church is there with him. So I'm writing down with him, the armies of heaven. Am I making this up? And I'll just give you one kicker. So my father passes away in 2014. And I'm in my childhood bedroom. Peggy joined me a week later.

So I'm just taking care of affairs. And my brother flies in. You know, we're doing all the stuff that you do when one of your parents pass away. And I'm laying in bed and my Lord goes, Holy Spirit goes, do you remember that vision you have at the White Horse? I go, yeah, that was really cool. Can I have another? dead silence.

And then he goes, Holy Spirit goes, you can't, this is why I mean, you can't make this stuff up. So the Holy Spirit goes, well, you know, what do you think happens to all those horses? And I'm going like, what? Because I know, the armies are all white horses. And I'm thinking of myself, you know, well, well, I don't know, I guess they're rounded up and put in a stable or something.

Never long pause. And he goes, those white horses get this. are the father's gift to you. Those white horses are the father's gift to you. So I'm sitting there going, oh, great, now I've got to take care of a horse and I don't like horses

and they don't like me. They say to go home to be stable in heaven? This is what I'm hearing from? Yeah, exactly. And, you know, the Holy Spirit, I can just say, and the Holy Spirit is probably rolling his eyes and going, what are they going to do with you, Marzuli?

And then he goes, He gives me the punchline. Those horses can fly. And at that moment, I sat up in the bed, I went, oh, can I see him now? I mean, I was like a little kid. And so from that, this is what I've extrapolated. And you won't hear this in church.

But we know that the armies of heaven come down. We know that out of the rider on the white horse, Jesus mouths come to a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and a rule with a rod, a sceptor of iron, rod of iron. And we know that. But we're with him. And there's probably 4 billion people on the planet that have no idea what just happened. You know, they're going like, what the heck?

Right? They're freaking out. The anti-crice, the whole crew, the New World Order, all the craziness, right? They're all going like, what's going on? So we're in glorified bodies on flying white horses. Guess what he does? I think he dispatches. to all points on the globe, and we set up the millennial kingdom for a thousand years.

And this is where the prophecy, where we rule 10 cities, five cities, one city, right? And this is also where the prophecy comes in. You will do these, and greater works will you do than I've done. Because we're in glorified bodies. When he was here, he wasn't in his glorified body, right, until he rose again. So we are in glorified bodies. We're preaching the gospel. We're healing the sick.

We're raising the dead. And we're bringing all these places like Djibouti into the kingdom of God. That's what we're going to be busier in a one-arm paper hanger. Right. We really will be. That's what I think it's God's conjecture. That's conjecture. Right.

But that's what I call it the White Horse Police Force. The White Horse Police Force. So human beings aren't going to be a part of that war than the ones. that are still here? No, it's the armies of heaven. The rider on the white horse destroy those who are gathered on the plane, and they're looking up. They already know he's common.

They're looking up. Read Psalm 2. Read Revelation 19 and 20. They already know who it is, and they want to defeat him. That's why he gathers the armies, and they're defeated. And we watch him doing it.

What do you think? Five years from now, 10 years from now? I mean, do you think it's like... Next Wednesday at 3.30, it'll happen. we'll see you there you just lique your 401k now and live your life

because it's coming down I mean in a decade of like nope you keep your hand on the plow and you do what you're told to do hand on the plow do what you're told to do

raise your family create films do your podcast do your job love your wife raise your grandkids whatever it is we do that

we occupy and do it to the best of our ability with everything that we have in our fiber we do it the best we can until we're taken out.

Those are our marching orders. Those are our marching orders. Occupy So we occupy. L.A., your true gem, thank you so much for coming on blurry creatures and dropping all this good stuff. God bless the God. Yeah. Elis, tell everybody where they can find you,

and you've got a book coming out. It looks like next month. Yeah, that will be on, it's called Countermove, have a Nephilim returned after the flood. And they can find you at L.A. marsuli.com. Yep. And our YouTube channel is L.A. You can stream all six of the Amat Trail of a Nephilim series for under $25. And that's streaming.la-Marzuli.net streaming.la-marzuli.com.

I'm not to do that. They still let you be on YouTube. I'm surprised. I am too. Trust me. I am too. I want to encourage you, man. This has been amazing. And I always figure, like, when I get spiritually attacked, I, to me, it's always a reminder that I'm a threat to the kingdom of darkness. And so while it is, you know, it's stressful and awful at the same time, it means you're living right. And I just appreciate your time. I appreciate what you're doing, man, and spreading and spreading not only the, you know, open people's eyes, but also spreading the gospel.

I mean, that's the very basis of who we are. That's what we're supposed to do. So, man, thank you enough for your time, L.A. Can I pray for you guys before we go? We love that, yeah. Sure. Father, we lift up Nate, Luke, and their. their podcast, Lord, and the people

who listen to we pray for salvation for those who are on the fence and wondering whether all this is real, it's all too real. We thank you, Lord, for your son, Jesus. We just pray protection, divine protection around Nate and Luke, or that you set your angels about them, that

they would put on the honor of God and walk in that arm on a daily basis and use that armor to strike down the forces of the enemy. Father, we thank you that the time is short, that you are returning soon. We love you. and look forward to the return of the king. In Jesus' name, pray.

Amen. Thanks, L.A. Appreciate it. Thanks so much for the time, man. Live long and prosper. Take care, guys. Yeah, take care. Thank you.