Blurry Creatures - EP: 205 FacePeelers on Hovercraft with Tim Alberino

Episode Date: November 15, 2023

Tim Alberino traveled to the jungles of Peru to investigate the attacks on villagers that went viral online. In a remote part of the Peruvian Amazon, villagers have reported being attacked repeatedly by what they call the Face Peelers. Tim's expedition to the jungle was made possible by the help of a group of our listeners and served both as a vehicle to investigate the story and also to provide food, medicine, and supplies to the villagers in need. Tim returns to the show for his FIRST INTERVIEW since landing back in the States and he reports on the findings of his investigation after interviewing multiple witnesses and survivors of the face-peeling phenomena. This story gets very bizarre and Tim's conclusions are not what he or we expected.  Guest: https://timothyalberino.com Support the show! www.blurrycreatures.com/members Intro Song: Timecop 83 "interstellar"  Socials instagram.com/blurrycreatures facebook.com/blurrycreatures twitter.com/blurrycreatures Music Kyle Monroe: tinytaperoom.com Aaron Green: https://www.instagram.com/aaronkgreen/ Outro Song: TimeCop1983: timecop1983.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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All right. All right. Welcome back to the podcast. Tim Alberino, author, Explorer, fresh off an expedition and dating website

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A lot of that was to provide, you know, provide some cover, if you will, for your trip because there's a lot of danger there. 18 hours up the river in the jungle. Didn't know what was going on. up there. Of course, if you're tuning in now, go and listen to the first episode, first part we did with Tim was before he went to Peru. If you're unfamiliar with this, you may need some

prerequisite knowledge. There's been some crazy stuff that happened over the summer in Peru. Face peeling aliens was the initial story that came out. And then, of course, the media there squashed it and it was minors of jet packs. But what we know and what Tim went to investigate was that there's something very odd

happening about 18, 18 hours up the river in the remote Peruvian jungle. and it need to be investigated. And so Tim, just kind of recap our last episode, you partnered with folks we know, including Conduit Church here in Franklin, Tennessee, where we had our BlurieCon to do some humanitarian work down there.

You brought medicine and food to the villagers that have been terrorized and really going through a bunch of crazy stuff there. And additionally, you provided equipment for them, and you went to investigate. You are the tip of the spear when it comes to this. And so when you're not switching out golden idols for bags of sand, you're up the river in Peru investigating what's really going on

with the face peeling aliens and we're great to have you back I know that it's been a whirlwind since you got back you launched your video on YouTube that's exploding all over the internet you can check out what Tim's doing on Twitter of course the video's on YouTube where he recaps you know

this is an audio show but in that point it's a lot of visuals that he shot with him and his team down in Peru and if you're not familiar with Tim Alvarino you've been under a rock for the last few years but Tim spent some time lived for more than a decade in Peru.

So, and we actually went to, we went with Tim to Peru in, uh, in June on a blurry creatures trip. We found out that every alpaca in that country hates Nate Henry, among other things. But Tim, and I know you, you know, you're just on a, really a layover at home before you head out again. But thanks for coming back. And we're excited to hear, you know, what you found and kind of just lay out what you believe is really going on down there in the wilds of Peru.

Well, I left on the 23rd. we did a show with you guys right before I left. And yeah, I wanted to make sure that we had cover. And what I mean by cover is on this kind of a trip, sometimes you want to go in covertly, sometimes you want to make a lot of noise. On this trip, I wanted to make a lot of noise because I was nervous about perhaps

there being some sort of a deep state, dumb state connection here to what's going on in the Peruvian Amazon. In other words, human actors with advanced technology doing very nefarious things. so I didn't want to just, I didn't want somebody to put a bullet in my head and drop me in the river and nobody know that I was out there. That's, that was a strategy there. And apparently it worked. But I left on the 23rd. I was in Peru until the first of November. I just got back. I got,

I got home on the second of November. So just about a week ago. And I was accompanied by my friend Doug Thornton, who wanted to go with me and who, who has a, we wanted to do it very, covert sort of filming we wanted to be very low profile I did not intend to go in there make a documentary or anything like that that was not the objective but I did want to take some video and be able to produce a very simple video when I got back take some footage and create a simple video when I got back which is what I did that's published on my YouTube channel so Doug Thornton was able to film a lot of what we were doing there and yes

Initially, I was going to go by myself. And then Doug wanted to go, and I was very relieved that he wanted to go because, A, I don't film stuff myself. I just, I don't like to film anything. So if anything is ever going to get filmed, someone's got to go with me and film it. So Doug offered to come and film and also Doug's infantry Marine and XDHS. So I was very happy to have him with me. And then also, the objectives of the expedition were obviously to go and investigate. when I contacted the village and found out what was going on and what kind of situation they were now in,

a secondary objective became to provision the village with food, medicine, and strategic technology. And in that endeavor, I want to thank the guys at Conduit Church. Pastor Darren Tyler, Jamie Ranenberg, and the group of guys that Todd Smith and the group of guys that got behind me to help me finance that part of the operation. I could not have taken on the full financial burden myself. It wasn't cheap to go out there and do that. I had to charter a riverboat. I had to hire security.

I hired two active duty Navy commandos, jungle commandos out of Ikitos. They were my security detail. Again, we had no idea what we were walking into. And so I wanted to take every precaution. It's like you're like a blurry missionary, like out there, like taking the gospel. and machetes and let's be honest the only reason the navy guys went night is because you and i were unavailable i mean top flight top flight security uh that's right they're afraid of large

beards in the amazon so you guys were my first choice hey they wouldn't scared i love it i uh no tim we got a chance to talk to you when you when you got yourself out of the jungle yeah let's let's tell the story luke you know we get this phone call the other night tim called us first he called us from Peru and began to tell us the story. So I wanted to kind of recapture that moment here on the podcast. What did you find out, Tim? I mean, we all kind of know the story of you going in there, but we Well, as I said before, we didn't know what we were going to discover. We didn't know if we were going to discover some sort of an alien phenomenon, some sort of a human phenomenon, or that the native people there, the villagers were making a whole thing up. So we went in prepared for whatever

kind of reality would present itself, including miners with jet packs. I mean, We did know what we what to expect. And when we got there, what we discovered was probably the worst case scenario. And the worst case scenario is not aliens. The worst case scenario is nefarious human beings with advanced probably alien tech doing very evil things. And it became apparent to us very quickly that this was something extraordinary. It was absolutely real. We began to, well, first you'll see and if you go and watch my video on YouTube,

on Timothy Alborino is the name of my channel. We were invited to the village. After I contacted the village of San Jose, it's called San Jose the Pintoiaku. Pinto yaku is the river it's located on. San Jose, it's like a two-day river trip from Ikitos. You're going northwest of Iquitos, a little bit north, but west of Iquitos. And way deep in the Amazon, when you get to Pintu Yaku, the river Pintu Yaku, and then to San Antonio, there's really nothing after San Antonio. It's uninhabited jungle, basically. There's a

couple of tiny, there's one more little village on the River Pinto Yaku, but after that, it's just the vast expanse of the Amazon, northern Amazon. Why here, Tim? Why do you think it's happening here? I don't know. That's one of the things I was hoping to elucidate when we were there. So this is very remote, very remote location, but because it's the San Antonio of Pinto yaku, is the original village of the Ikitu people. The Ikitu people are very old tribe. They're hundreds of years old. And they've been living in this region of the jungle for centuries.

And this was their capital village. It's not very large. It's large compared to some of the other ones, but it's only got about 200 inhabitants. But it's very historic. They speak the Ikitu language in this village, the elders do. and that language is almost completely extinct at this point. So it's a very important anthropologically speaking.

It's a very important village. And because of this and also because it's sort of the last outpost for civilization before you going to this vast wilderness, the government put a communication post there. So there's a little government building called the Tombo, which it's for the villagers, but it's a government outpost. and they have satellite internet in this one building. And they have a generator.

And so they have some lights, which is very unusual this far out in the middle of this far out in the Amazon. So it's a very interesting place. We went up the river. I chartered a riverboat. And it was a Peruvian crew, six guys, plus my two security guys, my security detail, Doug. And three of the villagers from San Antonio de Pinto, Yaku accompanied us up the river, including the Apu. The Apu is the chief of the village.

He's 32 years old. His name is Chairo Rejatiqi. And Chiro and the other leaders of the village gave me a formal invitation to come to the village. They were very excited to receive me. They knew I was coming to investigate. I learned very early on that no one had gone to investigate the village. I reported, in my initial reporting of the incident, I said that the Navy went to investigate, that was false. That's what the media was saying. But Hiro told me that no, only two police officers went. They were accompanied by the Navy piloted them up the river. They ferried them up the river in a Navy boat and the police officers were accompanied by two Navy guys with automatic weapons, but only the police officers, these two guys conducted an investigation. The Navy never

officially conducted an investigation in the village, which I was quite surprised to hear. hear that because all our media was reporting here in the United States was reporting that they had. And I also was parroting that. It was wrong. Why do you think that is? Because a story that got so much international attention, right? Because they don't believe them. They don't believe them. And I know that because I met with in Lima, so backing up before I went to Ikitos, I spent a day in Lima, which is the capital city of Peru. And I met in Lima, Hugo Cusato, who is the professor of the Navy War College. He's a at the Navy War College in Lima. Very well-connected guy, very intelligent guy, awesome dude.

And I met with a Peruvian hero, Admiral Carlos Tejo. And everyone knows Admiral Carlos Tejo in Peru. He's retired, but he was one of their most illustrious admirals because he was instrumental in destroying, eliminating the Shining Path, the Communist uprising, the Shining Path. They were a terrorist organization that killed a lot of people, especially in the jungle. And it was very violent.

And Admiral Tejo was, as I said, instrumental in eliminating that organization. And part of the way he did it, by the way, is he famously, famously he would take the commies in a helicopter and fly him up in there and push him out. That's how he would deal with the commies. And so because of that, he's not allowed in the United States crimes against humanity. He was pushing commies out of helicopters. So this is the guy that I met with in Peru, Admiral Tejo and Hugo Cusato, and both very, very intelligent men. And we sat down and had dinner with them.

And obviously my line of inquiry with these gentlemen was what they thought. I wanted to know what they thought about what was unfolding in the Pruvian Amazon in regard to this, the alleged alien attacks, a face peeler phenomenon. Yeah. And they kind of rolled their eyes. And in fact, Admiral Tejo, his very first response was, well, these jungle people aren't very well educated. They really don't know what they're talking about. They're very superstitious. And he proceeded to tell me that he thought that what was going on was something like Narcos or River Miners or somebody else was draping a sheet over a drone or something like this.

and flying it around like a ghost and scaring the villagers. That was his assessment. Hugo really couldn't speak to the affair. He doesn't really know what's going on, but he sort of agreed with Tejo, with Admiral Tejo. Well, that was it. That was their assessment. And I said, well, okay, but the problem is that this is the Amazon.

It's at nighttime. These things are moving between the trees. They're confronting the villagers up close and person. personal, they're being shot at. I said, how do you explain all of these details? And he didn't know how. He said, well, that's interesting. I don't know what to think about that.

But the natives are probably not understanding the technology that they're confronting. In other words, it's just conventional technology that they think is aliens. Okay, that's what they said. I was a little bit surprised by that low resolution analysis. Because I've lived with these people. I know these people. They're not stupid. They know what drones are. They watch movies. A lot of these people go down to Ikitos, these villagers, they'll go down to Akitos and they all have cell phones now and they'll watch movies. They're not stupid. They know what technology is.

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I went up the river and we were the first ones to go to this village to actually investigate. It's wild. Beside the police. Decide the police. Now, you will see some interviews online with the villagers, but those apparently were in two things are happening there. Most of the ones that are with journalists, those are in Ikitos. The villagers came down to Ikitos. They're being interviewed in Akitos, the main city in the jungle. By the way, you can only get to Akitos by boat or air. There are no roads that go there. It's the most isolated city in the world, one of them at least, certainly in the Amazon. So you're telling me where you were going. You don't need roads?

you can't get there but is this a reference to something what did they say okay so tim okay what did they say about some of those pictures that were circulating on the internet are those legit or okay so let me finish my my thought and I'll talk with this so and so that the first thing is that the journalists that you see online talking to whoever those are in ekeetos and then when you see someone's talking to Talia the girl who was nearly abducted and talking to people in the village. That's a guy named Christian. He is from the village. He's not a journalist. He's from the village. He took the videos. He did his own little interviews with people and put it up online. And I've been in contact. I'm still a guy I talk to Christian all the time. So that's Christian. He's

from the village. Okay. So I don't know about these images that are popping up that allegedly come from the Amazon, the ones of these bright beings. I don't know anything about that. They don't know anything about that. I cannot verify that those are real. It seems to me that these are probably not authentic, but I don't know. I have no knowledge of whether or not they are. The face peeler stuff, people were the guys missing his face? I think we talked about that. A guy was discovered. His face was gone. It was just bleached bone. It was not piranhas. It was a very clean cut. Piranhas don't do that. Piranhas are, as everyone knows, are very aggressive. They nick the bone and they tear the flesh up. They don't, they don't leave a nice clean cut.

Yeah. It's not a surgically removed face. Right. The nature of their teeth, they tear things apart. It's not a surgical cut, a pranobite. So this individual was found this year sometime, and these guys confirmed to me in the village. Now, this is what they say. I haven't been able to independently verify it. They told me in the village, that happened. We all heard about it. It happened in the same region of the jungle. That one's real. And apparently it has something to do with the face peeler phenomenon. Also, there was a boy whose neck was cut up really bad. It's in the whole thing, I posted on Twitter.

The whole thing is very, in Peru, when there's an accident or something, like in the jungle, they show it. There's no, there's, there's the only blur it, the media, the Lima media organizations have to blur. But when it comes out of the jungle, they show everything. So you see people like with their arms ripped off and heads ripped off. off from motorcycle accidents. They just put it on TV there. And this video has been circulating of a boy with two very large lacerations in his neck, like huge open wounds. He's in shock. He lost a lot of blood. Thank God the boy survived. That also is real. And ostensibly has something to do with the face peeler phenomenon. So those two, I can tell you, are real. And both of them are associated with the

face peeler phenomenon. The picture of the luminous beings, I don't know. Yeah. So, Tim, what about, okay, unless you have more there, I was going to ask you about Talia because, of course, that's the other one that big story that came out, right, was her story about being abducted and the attempt to peel her face. And, you know, people have, we talked about this when you called us from what you got out of the jungle, but that's fascinating because a lot of people discredited that story, right? Or a question of that story at the very least. That story is very real. So when I got to the jungle, I'll lead up to Talia. When I got to the village, remember, I've got the chief of the village with me on the boat. I'm greeted by a small army of village men with shotguns.

And they're all standing on the shore and we pull up in this river boat and we harbor there right next to the village and they're very formal. So they wanted me to give like a speech when I got before I disembarked. There you go. Which I did and and all the guys are chairing and clapping and like inviting me to come into their village. And so, and by the way, these are not like natives and in grass skirts. These are people wearing regular civilian clothing. In fact, Talia, as I was interviewing her. She had this big pink TikTok shirt on. These are these are civilized people. Even though they are members of the Ikitu tribe, they are civilized people. So they still have all their old, all of their old customs and stuff and even their old language, but they, they

wear clothes. Let's put it that way. So I disembark after I give this little speech, I disembark. And they lead me to, and you can see all of this, by the way, in my video. They lead me to, the Tombo building, that government building. When I got there, a lot of the village was already assembled there waiting for us. And we had a very warm reception there. And they unloaded all of the, all of the supplies that we brought them and piled them up inside of the tomb. And once again, they asked me to give a speech. So I did. I introduced myself and my team and the Navy guys who are with me and the crew on the boat and all that and and then I I explained what our purpose was in the village and basically asked permission from them if we can interview them and have them tell us what's been unfolding in the village and

they were more than happy clapping for us they were very very very very warm reception in fact after I gave my second speech in Spanish they speak a dialect of Spanish called chatapa which is combination of Spanish and Quechua, which is the kind of Spanish that I learned. That was my introduction because I've probably told you this. I won't go through the story again. I got kicked out of Spanish class. I told my teacher I'd never use the stupid language. So I didn't learn Spanish the conventional way.

I learned this dialect of Spanish first, and that is charapa. And Chattapa, by the way, is a turtle. And the reason why they call that Chadapa is because they, speak sing they're very sing song and they speak slower and it's like I said it's a mix of Spanish and Quechua it's very comical actually so after the introduction of myself and my crew they offered us some tip some typical food some of their the jungle fair that they eat which I'm very familiar with which was boiled bananas and fish and stuff and then they did that as a show of hospitality that's that's the way these communities are in the jungle they don't have a lot

so they share what they have with you. That's like them inviting you. That's them being hospitable. And it's an offense if you don't eat, eat it. It really is because it's like they're very poor. They don't have much. And then they offer you what they have. And a lot of gringos turn it away.

Oh, no, thank you. You don't say no thank you to these communities. You don't say no thank you. You eat whatever they give you. And I like it. I like the jungle food. It's just it's fish and it was fish soup and boiled. They call it ingiti.

Boiled bananas. boiled plantain rather and then we walked out of the tomb and they performed this this traditional ikito dance for us and it was it was the ladies some ladies and guys from the village and they were dressed in their traditional garb and they and they did this dance for us you know as a celebration of our arrival so it was really it was really quite it was really quite fascinating Sounds like a lot of pomp, like a lot of pomp in ceremony. Yeah, you got the red carpet rolled out in the jungle. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to explain, really.

This is their version of rolling the red carpet out. And so we had this just incredibly warm reception. And then one of the elders, one of the older guys from the village, gave us little speech in Ikitu, which was really remarkable. This is a language that is almost gone. There's under probably 50 people left to speak it. And they're trying to teach it to the younger generation. generation. And that was that was it was really remarkable to hear this language that's almost

gone from the earth. And then the oh they gave me a bowl of masato to drink, which I also talk about in the in the in the little video I made. Uh, my sato is I won't I won't go and if you want to know about my sato go watch that video. But it's a very it's a very traditional drink. It's masticated masticated yucca. And if when they give you a bowl of massato in the jungle and you take it and you drink it, it's, it's almost like being inducted into the community. It's, it's, it's very important to them. That's the first thing that happens when you go to one of these communities in the jungle, at least the Peruvian Amazon. I don't know about the Brazilian Amazon, but in the Peruvian Amazon, one of the very first things that's going to happen is that someone's going to hand

you a bowl of Masato. And now this is definitely something most gringoes do not drink because it's masticated, they chew in their mouth and then they spit it out and mash it and put it. And put it in a bucket and add river water and let it ferment. Jeez. And I've, I drink a lot of masathe. You know, this was the best masato I've ever had.

It was, it grows on you, probably grows in you too. But it's just, it was a very traditional welcome for us. Doug attempted to drink the masato also, but it ended up all over his beard because he puked it up. Oh,

man. But as I say in the video, he gave it the old college try. And they appreciated it. They really did. So why am I telling you this? Because once all of this had happened, they were very receptive to us and very willing to talk to us. And it's not always like that in the Amazon. Sometimes people are very closed.

Even if you give them stuff, they're just, they're very closed communities. But they, because we approached them in this manner, they were very, very happy to receive us and they they were eager and excited to come up to me one after another and tell me their stories of what they've been experiencing. Okay. So now what is it that these people have been experiencing? Right after that reception, Doug and I got to work immediately and we started walking around the village. We walked around the village, kind of get a feeling for what it, the, the perimeters of the village, what this place looks like, how big it is. First thing we noticed, they burned down all the trees around the village. They created like a, I don't know, three,

to five acre radius. Not every tree is burned. There's patches of trees in here and here and there, but for the most part, and they left those trees for shade, for the most part, they burn this radius around the village because somebody was making incursions from the jungle and they wanted to create a buffer zone and open up a line of sight. That's the first thing we noticed. And we also notice that they were planting their crops really close, like almost actually in town, in the middle of the village and and and right out right around town and and that's not usual usually these guys all have their chakras out in the out in the jungle you know about a five 10 minute walk out into the jungle sometimes more of them 20 minutes some some of them are more like 20 minutes but they all

they all have their little plots of land out there but apparently they weren't going to their land they weren't going out in the jungle at all that's right because they were terrified and this is what we began to encounter. And then the Apu was taking us to the areas where they were having these confrontations with mysterious assailants. And they began to describe the confrontations and the assailants. And right away, Doug and I, we actually got a little nervous. Because at first, our initial reaction, interpretation of what we were what we were being told was these are narcos. This sounds like narcos. This sounds like drug traffickers. And they're, they're really violent and they're seriously trying to get rid of these people for whatever reason. And when we thought

that, we had to go sit down with our security staff and have a conversation and with the crew on the boat because that's a very, very serious and dangerous situation to be in the middle of. That's a cartel. Yeah. Because you're talking about cartels. And they would have known we were there and they would have not wanted us there and we could have run into some major trouble. Tim, what was the first? What made you off the bat think that? Like, is it because the phenomenon is very violent and it's very, as I said before, it's up close and personal. It's not this distant, mysterious, ghostly phenomenon like these strange beings that are just observing these people from the jungle. These are incursions by people who have very bad intentions.

and that became apparent. But so we went back to the boat for lunch. So we heard a couple of testimonies, went back to the boat for lunch because we were living on the riverboat. That was our base of operations, which was Harvard at the village. And we sort of reassessed, we sort of assessed what we knew up to that point. And again, we had a conversation with our security. And then we went back into the village and we started to hear a lot more testimonies. And it very quickly became apparent that we are not dealing with drug traffickers.

These are not miners, river miners. They do not use jet packs. And these are not drug traffickers. We understood after lunch, when we went back in the village, it became very apparent to us that we are dealing with with something extraordinary and unconventional. That became apparent. Why? Okay, because when we went back into the village, a lot more of the details began to emerge. We had already learned what these guys look like.

Almost everybody told us, in fact, everybody told us that they were at least as tall as me, but most people said taller. Some people said a foot taller than me. Like I was standing in a building and talking to them and I said, now I want to get an understanding. You're saying they're tall. And obviously it's nighttime and everything, so it's not exactly accurate. But this is their best estimate. You're saying they're tall, so I'm tall. You guys, I'm tall to you.

So me and they're, no, no, no, taller than you. Okay, how tall? So I'd put my hand all up and then I put my hand on the ceiling. And I said, this tall? And some of them said, yeah. Yeah, they were that tall. So we walked away with an estimate of anywhere between six and a half to seven and a half feet tall, maybe even up to eight, potentially.

giving room for some exaggeration six and a half to seven maybe the smallest guys were six my my height but the larger ones and they really stress this these are big dudes these are big dudes not just tall they're big they're big dudes okay that's and that wasn't super surprising to us the first encounter the first few minutes before lunch when they were telling us about these guys because if they're gringoes, if they're, let's say, some sort of a international cartel. I said drug trafficking. What I meant to say was human trafficking. That's what we were really concerned with, that these are human traffickers. Drug traffickers, too, but really an international cartel of human traffickers is what we were concerned about, most concerned about. But then we began to hear

about the technology that they were clearly deploying in this village. And the technology that these guys are using there are there's two okay there's three specific let's call them technological apparatuses that are showing up in the testimonies of the people in san antonio and they're all related but there's let's i want to separate them into three things number one the footwear i'm not going to call them boots or shoes because they're not boots or shoes they're wearing very peculiar footwear And the first thing you need to know about this footwear, and these are the assailants, these are these mysterious assailants. Their footwear is very large. It's huge.

How do I know it's huge? Because the villagers have found their footprints. And they're really big, and they consist of two circles. So they have discs on the bottom of their footwear. Very strange. And this is something that was stressed to us. None of their shoes are not like any shoes or boots. They're strange.

They're very strange. They have discs on the bottom of their shoes. And apparently these discs enable them to float. So oftentimes they're encountered floating by the agency of these discs on the bottom of their footwear. And apparently they're able to leap up into the air. People told us they could jump up over houses or even over trees we were told. Wow. They would leap up into the air to escape.

Obviously, there's some sort of a technology being deployed on their footwear. Okay, that's the first apparatus, technological implement that they're using. The second apparatus, technological implement, aside from the discs on their shoes, they apparently can snap into, let's say, snap into circular platforms. I don't know how I was to describe it. I don't want to use words disks because I don't want to confuse people between the disks on their shoes. It's like they... It's like snowboard boots.

It's like you snap. Yeah. I think they're probably magnetically snapping into into like a hoverboard, like a circular hoverboard type thing. They're magnetically snapping into it with these discs on their footwear on their shoes. You said this place was steps from the water.

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When they snap into the boards, and again, I don't know that they snap into them. I'm just assuming if you got these big discs on the bottom of your footwear, that would be awkward standing on a platform. So I just assuming that they magnetically lock in. and they may not, but that's the way I think of it. So when they mount the platforms now, these circular platforms, they're about three feet in diameter, these guys are incredibly, they're agile without them,

but when they're on these things, they're like supervillains. Sounds like the Green Goblin. Very much like the Green Goblin, which is what the Villager said. So the difference is that the Green Goblin flies around on this, you know,

the Spider-Man villain flies around on this sort of winged, apparatus and it uses jet propulsion, right? And he stands on it like in a wide stance. Don't get that out of your mind. That's not how these guys stand. These guys stand. Everyone showed us with their feet kind of close together. Talia said one had a foot kind of just a little bit in front of the other. So they're not, they're not hover boards in the sense that they're not like long boards. They're circular and they're silent. And they have lights. They have lights around the circumference of the board, multicolored lights. They also have flood lights on them.

And these guys can zip around through the air at high rates of speed on these things. It's a circular platforms. I do not believe that the platforms have anything to do with jet propulsion or propellers. Interesting. For several reasons. Number one, they're silent, except for when they accelerate. When they accelerate, they make like a, the way that it was sort of described to me by the villagers is almost like a sound of like compressed air. When you pull a hose out of a compressor, something like that.

But it wasn't really clear what kind of noise it made, but there is a noise associated with them when they accelerate off the ground. Because what the assailants do, they fly into the village or to the outskirts of the village, they land on their disc. they land their disks rather their circular platforms they land these platforms in the in the in the clearings usually behind remember they burn the jungle the trees on around the village so they were landing behind that those rows of trees and then they were dismounting and floating into the village now some villagers said they saw them walking but most people see them floating and the ones who see saw them walking i'm kind of thinking that they just imagine that they were walking right because you you would never think if you see somebody at nighttime moving across the ground,

you would never, your first thought wouldn't be they're floating. It would be their walking, right? So I think there's some confabulation, but a lot of people see them floating. They're floating around. Now, again, they're off of their platforms, their circular platforms, and now they're hovering on their discs on the bottom of their footwear. These guys are, remember, they're tall. Well, however tall they are, they're at least as tall as me, probably taller.

from they're dressed from head to foot in black armored body suits head to foot so they have black armored body suits on and they have large helmets on and the helmets are elongated everybody was telling me they're elongated in the back that's again a reference to the green goblin his helmet how it's elongated in the back yeah they said that they have they have their eye lenses on the helmet so there there isn't a separate mask it's a helmet the eye lenses are yellow and they're almond-shaped. They're large and almond-shaped yellow eyelids. It's just like the green-goblin.

And they have small hardened backpacks. So small hard-shell backpacks. And we've speculated that those might be batteries, battery packs, or perhaps small reactor, something like that that they're carrying on their backs to generate the energy for whatever kind of technology they're using on their footwear and also when they snap into the platforms.

I mean, definitely not camelbacks in case they get thirsty, probably something a little more advanced. Yeah, they're camel packs. Dude, Tim, this is kind of, I mean, it's wild. Like the things you're describing her, it sounds like out of a Marvel movie, it sounds a lot like some of the encounter stories

you hear about some UFO technology, right? The silent hovering, the silent moving. And then it's like a mix of sci-fi and marvellous. I mean, we could say this pay the same thing. And yet this is what they're saying like to a man in the jungle. These people are saying this is not what superman. It sounds like that. And one guy told me, so there's a particular gentleman in the village who he shot one of these guys point blank rage.

He showed me where he was and everything. He shot one of these guys and he fell down. I don't know. He wasn't. He was not on a, this guy made it clear to me. He was not on a platform. He was not on one of these hovering platforms. He was hovering off of the discs on his footwear.

And when he shot him, the guy fell back on his back. He shot him with a 16-gauge shotgun, birdshot. Probably modified birdshot. They modify the BBs in the cartridge to create larger slugs. So he shot this guy. He fell back onto his back and then pop back up. He certainly wasn't hurt. It's just the blast, the force, knock.

him on his butt. You know what I mean? And he pops back up and then takes off. I don't know how many guys shot actually shot them, but a lot of guys shot at them. Some of the other guys in the village would say when they shoot them, they hear the BBs dinging off of their armor. Suits. Armour. Like metal, ding, ding, think, think, think, like off of their metal, right? Like the BBs bouncing off. Is this the first time you've ever heard a story of like this hybrid technology where it? This is the, this is the most bizarre thing I've ever, investigated personally and why yeah i guess my other question it gets weirder well my my question is so like i mean it could be we don't really know it could be a hybrid of beings too i mean it could be

humans or it could be well we don't know we've talked extensively we don't know about these alien beings that look a lot like us on our show well it gets even it gets even weirder so we're departing very quickly now from anything conventional again Not just typical human traffickers, not just typical drug traffickers, not certainly not miners, river miners with jet packs. Nothing like this. We are out of the realm of conventional technology. But you can see where that, is that where this like rumor kind of...

The police officers created that stupid story, that ridiculous story. You could see like how if these things are flying in on discs that could be, someone could just say something flew in on it and they could, you know, how easily it can just be twisted. Yeah, certainly. Yes, yes, there's no question about it. The first thing that would come to mind if you see somebody floating or flying is a jet deck.

There's no question about it. That would be the first thing because that's the most common. And these guys know all about all the villagers are well aware of all the technology that's out there. They have the internet. They've seen Rocket Man. No, these guys are on Facebook. And they're on the internet at the Tombo.

Yeah. Okay. They're not, it's not like you're going to walk. to the village with a drone and they're all going to, you know, gather around and think it's like, you know, it's a, it's, uh, it's one of their jungle deities coming to visit them. They're, they're not, they're not those kind of jungle people. They have the internet. They watch movies. They were pulling up drones and stuff for me on their cell phones. They know exactly what this technology isn't. Well, I'm just saying like, I understand the JIPPAC story a lot more now.

You know what I mean? It's like the telephone game. You, you tell a story to a couple people and then all of a sudden it's like, oh, there's just some jet packs flying around up there. But it makes more sense than what you just described. I think this jetpack story gives more validity to what you're describing now, to me personally. Well, well, that's not all. Okay. So, okay, so we've mentioned the first technological apparatus that they're using, which is the discs on their footwear, then the second, the larger discs, or I'm calling them circular platforms that they maybe snap into magnetically and fly around on. But then there's a third. There's a third. There's a third technological apparatus that's being deployed over that village.

And this third thing is the nail in the coffin to the jetpack miner story. These guys, apparently, are flying around in what I would describe as advanced aerospace vehicles or UFOs. Several of the people in the village drew in the dirt. One of them drew on the chalkboard, on the acrylic board. And I have that on if you watch the video, you'll see. They drew, and they all drew the same thing. They all drew the same thing. They drew this figure.

What I'm describing is as being somewhat shaped like an acorn. And they all drew the same thing. They're all seeing the same thing. It's relatively large. It's about the size of a small private jet or a large helicopter, like a Chinook or Black Hawk helicopter. It's got this very strange shape like an acorn. In other words, the, but. but longer than an acorn.

But with that basic shape, the narrow part is where the cockpit is, and then the rare of this vehicle is the wider part, like the top of the acorn shape. They have these little, instead of, they don't have wings, just like what I saw in Brook Park, Ohio. They have these little rounded nubs in the place of wings. And these things, apparently, they open up. And when they open up, they deploy a series of lights,

almost like a scanner, and then they close. And everybody described them the same. Many people saw them in the village. These craft have hovered silently over the village, 30 to 40 feet. They've hovered over people's houses. One guy, and again, this is in the video, one guy was pulling up his nets at 3 in the morning. He's pulling up his nets. And suddenly he said it was like daytime.

It was like the sun came up. Everything around me was totally lit up. And he said he saw this bright reflection in the water because he's pulling his nets up. and he looks up and right above him 30 he said 30 maximum 40 feet above him is this craft so he's looking straight up at it he's looking at the bottom of it and he described it just like i told you it was like an acorn shape it was like the size of a large helicopter and it had he said he called him bundles or he he referred to these two things you could see in there as bundles because the craft I should have said the craft was totally transparent.

He said it was totally transparent. He could see this structure, but it was transparent. He could see inside of it. And he saw these two bundles and he said they were two people sitting there inside. And he showed me where they were in the craft. And he draws it on the chalkboard, on the acrylic board. And he's describing exactly what these other people drew in the ground, drew on the, in the dirt for me. They're totally silent.

They have the capability to hover completely still in the scale. guy. They don't make any noise. When they accelerate, they make a low humming frequency sound. They are very bizarre. They have this different kinds of lights on them. But obviously, we're not talking about propellers. The guy is on a boat in the river pulling nets up. The water, I asked him, was the water disturbed? He said, no, not at all. So if these had large propellers, that water is going to be disturbed. He said, there was no wind or anything like that. I said, Did you see any propellers? No.

Did you see any kind of an exhaust, like jet engines? No, nothing like that. He did describe some sort of a like a wave, almost like, it was very strange what he described. When the craft accelerated, there was almost like an exhaust out the back, but it was very strange. I don't even know how to explain. Obviously we're dealing with advanced technology,

unconventional, unconventional advanced technology here. Okay. So these are the same dudes. And they always come two by two. There were two guys in the craft, and they always come two by two into the village. I think they come in groups of two that they come two by two every time. Two guys in the craft, two guys coming on the discs. So whoever these things, people, I don't know what to call them except for assailants,

because I don't know if they're humans. I'm going to tell you a story here that might suggest that they are. but whoever these people are, these guys have technology that is vastly superior to anything that any cartel on the planet has. So we are way outside of the realm now of cartels. This isn't about money. When you've got this kind of technology, some sort of anti-gravity technology, when you've got this kind of technology,

it's not about money anymore. There's another motive at work here, and it's very sinister. So there, I've told you about three different kinds of technological apparatuses that are being deployed. They're all related. I think they're using the same kind of propulsion, and I do not believe it's propellers.

And it's not jets. We know it's not jets. Jets would be very noisy and there'd be very problematic moving around the jungle. Propellers would be very noisy. Even if you have the stealth technology like our helicopters have, right? The stealth helicopters, like the one that crashed at Osama Bin Laden's compound, allegedly. Even in that case, you would have some telltale signs of propellers, right? And when you put all of these things together, you realize that no, no, no, this is something else.

We're dealing with advanced aerospace vehicles. who are dealing with some sort of an anti-gravitical or some sort of an electromagnetic technology that is superior, superior to any of these hoverboards that you see online. There's a French guy who made this hoverboard that you can really move on these things. You go 100 miles an hour. You go way up in the air. They fly for 10 minutes. They require a lot of energy.

They're remarkable, but they're conventional. They're conventional technology. They make a lot of noise. that they cannot display the kind of, they cannot, they're not capable of the same kind of technological feats as the things I'm describing to you. This is a level or many levels above anything in the commercial sector. Okay. That's very important to keep in mind. So we learned all of that. We knew we weren't dealing with typical or conventional human or drug traffickers. we weren't dealing with your everyday cartel, your Mexican cartels that do cut people's faces off,

by the way, very brutal. We're dealing with something much more extraordinary, much more mysterious than that. We knew that. And actually, that kind of made us feel a little better because it's not just, it's not about money and violence, because that's what the cartels are about. Money and fear. That's what the cartels are all about. And that's very dangerous to be a gringo in that scenario out there in the middle of jungle.

So that we were able to take that off the table right away. Now we're dealing with something very mysterious. So we went on conducting these interviews. Everybody told us the same thing. Everybody told us the same descriptions of the people. One guy, the guy who shot the assailant, he fell on his butt for a second. He told me one discrepancy. Everyone else told me they wear black.

They're black. He said this guy was wearing. his body armor was silver. And that's why you had the report initially that they're silver because of him. He said that, no, no. He's like, I'm telling you. They were, I said, put my flashlight right on him.

It's silver. What he was wearing was silver. So for whatever reason, and I think probably what's going on here is their armor has some sort of a stealth technology built into it. It can go dark and probably not. It's probably not dark

until it goes into a stealth mode in which it becomes probably, it's probably almost impossible to see these guys when they're fully in that mode. We have conventional technologies that almost render a person invisible at this point. And so they probably do as well. I'm trying to put together my thoughts here and phrase them properly, but I think after doing this show for three years, you kind of realize that there's human-on-human atrocities. And then we've talked extensively about how in the golden age there was different realms.

There was non-human entities interacting with humans as well. And so you had technologies coming from other realms, other places, different kingdoms, right? And this, you know, we've talked to, you know, about they have, they possess technology. They're building this craft somewhere with elements that we don't have. Wishing you could be there live for the big game, soaking up the atmosphere in the crowd. but too often life gets busy or the price hold you back price line is here to help you make it happy with millions of deals on flights hotels and rental cars

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sound human to me. That's my take. Well, was it a long-ed-ed-hlet-helmet or a long-ed skull, though? Long-ded helmet, I'm not sure that their skulls are elongated. Their helmets are elongated. No one has seen beneath the helmet. Now, let me tell you the story of Talia. So we conducted a bunch of interviews.

There's a lot of things that I haven't told you that we were told. just but it was all it was all synchronistic everything they told us everybody was describing the same phenomenon when we went to interview this 15 year old girl named talia she's the one who you see in the videos that came out where she's got the laceration two lacerations actually in her neck and i had originally reported that that's how the incident began that's what everyone was saying that's what the media was saying but when you go and you actually do an investigation you can see start to get a higher resolution understanding of how things unfolded. And that was not the case. Her incident was not the first. The first incursion happened over at the Tombo. That's a different

story. So the reason why I highlight that is because by the time this incident happened with Talia, the village was already, they already knew something was up. They already knew there's these strange, mysterious assailants that are making incursions in the village. There's a high level of vigilance now. It's important to understand that. So everybody's already vigilant. They're sitting out with their flashlets at nighttime. They're ready with their guns and flashlights. Okay? This is the context of what I'm about to tell you.

This 15-year-old girl, something very traumatic happened to her. And one of my intentions was to interview her myself when I got to the village. That was one of my primary goals in regard to the investigation. We tried to do it on the second. We spent, by the way, three days and two nights in the village. We tried to do it on the second day. but it was very sad everybody was in the village in the evening this is what they do in these communities in the evening like around five o'clock until sundown all of the villages are in the plaza

all of the men are playing soccer all of the women are playing volleyball that's what they do and so we go to the plaza there's the men playing soccer there's the women playing volleyball and then there's this girl sitting by herself on a bench up against a house and it was Talia. And so we were we were going to approach her with the Apu of the village to interview her. And as soon as she saw us, she's just sort of sitting there by herself, but she's just, you know, kind of happy watching everybody play soccer and volleyball. And as soon as she laid eyes on us, she began to tremble. She started hiding her face with her hand. Then she took her hair and covered her face on this side were so we looking at her she covered her face with her hair and she's literally sitting there

trembling and i thought oh my god this girl is really psychologically damaged something really awful happened to this girl and i did not expect to find her like that the chief of the village went over to her and tried to talk to her to her to get her to come talk to us she did not want to so he went and got her her father and her father came over and we talked to him from it and he went over and he grabbed her by the hand and brought her over. And when she came over to us, she was resisting, pulling against him. When she came and stood in front of us, she was shaking like a leaf, crying, covering her face. She was terrified. And she absolutely would not talk to us. She basically ran away from us. And the Apu suggested, Hairos suggested, why don't you visit her in her house tomorrow morning

after breakfast, visit her over at her house. She'll be ready to talk. And her, And her father told us, he guaranteed us that she'll be better tomorrow. And I said, well, we don't want to further traumatize this girl, but we do want to know what happened to her. He said, no, come back tomorrow after breakfast. So that's what we did. On the third day, we went late morning, visited her house. We walked back in, and you see this on the footage, we walked back into her backyard. She wasn't there yet.

her father told me the story of what happened and then eventually Talia showed up. Her father was able to bring her and she stood before me and trembled for five minutes without saying a word. Just shaking. By the time we started recording, she had already been standing there just absolutely traumatized, trembling, kind of hiding her face from us. And it was pretty sad. Eventually, I asked her, I asked her a question, can she please tell us what happened to her?

Because we were standing in the place where it happened. She just trembled for two minutes after I asked her the question. And I told her, you know, take your time. I understand what happened to is very traumatic. We're not the bad guys. Because her assailants were tall, taller than the rest of them. And so she saw us tall. And some of the villagers believe that the face.

peelers are gringos and others believe that they're non-human, they're extraterrestrial, or there's something else. It's like, and some of them just, they don't know which of those two things to believe. So Talia maybe is associating her, her assailants with gringos, and here's two gringos now. And how many assailants were there? Two. So she's associating me and Doug. Doug's a big dude. I'm taller than Doug, but Doug's a really big dude. He's a powerlifter. He weighs 300 and some pounds. So we are reminding her of her assailants and she is just trembling. Eventually she begins to speak. She speaks very softly and she tells this story.

And what she says is that she was there right after dark, by the way, these guys, these assailants only come right after dark and right before. So right after dusk and right before dawn. Right after it gets dark and right before it gets light. That's when they come. And then they see them throughout the night flying over the village on their, on their circular platforms and in their craft. But they make incursions into the village right after dark usually. And everybody told us that.

So, and this is Talia's story as well. She's right after dark, she's picking fruit with a stick out of a fruit tree in her backyard. And that's where we were standing. And this is what she said. She said she knocked a fruit down, hit the ground. She bent over to pick it up. Now there's some dead leaves lying on the ground there. And she noticed that the leaves rustled a little bit, and she felt a gentle wind at her back.

So she turned around, and she looked, and she saw, the first thing she saw was lights. There was a circular platform lit up, right? So she saw this thing, and then she realized there's someone standing on it. And she showed me how the guy was standing on it. And it was a very tall person, just as I described before, dressed head to foot in black, big black helmet, elongated, black armored body suit. And he floated up to her, landed the platform on the ground, and grabbed her, violently grabbed her. And he covered her mouth and they have gloves on. He covered her mouth with his hand.

And then she saw another one. And you have to understand that behind her house, okay, so the context of where this is in the village, this is not on the outskirts of the village. This is kind of in the middle of the village. And in her backyard, there's like a little galley and it's forested, but then it goes, and again, you'll see it in the video. It goes up a little bit. So it goes down and there's a little chicken coop thing back there, a little thatched roof chicken coop. And then it goes up on this little ridge and up there or more houses. So it's like in the middle of a bunch of houses. And she sees his second assailant coming up on his platform. He comes wishing up the hill right next to the other guy and he grabs her

legs. So suddenly she is now being held very tightly by two tall people dressed head to foot in black, large helmets, floating on these platforms. They take. her they float her over behind that chicken coop and there's in here in her story there was some confusion i really couldn't get her to clarify i don't think she she really knows there was some confusion she said that they wanted to lift her off take her up into the air like grab her snatch her and take her away fly her up into the air that's what she thought and but they were having a hard time is what she told me and so they they floated her down behind the the chicken coop now here's a very anomalous detail that only talia only talia talked about this she said that

the two assailants were speaking audibly in spanish one of them she called him the gringo he had a she said he had a accent like you meaning me and he spoke broken spanish and the other one spoke perfect Spanish. And I even asked her, did he have a accent like somebody from Lima or something? She said, no, he sounded just like us. He spoke like a Peruvian, but I don't know what that means, except for she didn't hear an accent. So I'm going to call these two assailants, the Gringo and the Peruvian. That's what we're going to call them here going forward to finish this story, because that's how she referred to them. Now, let me say right up front, she never saw their faces. and I do not know whether we are dealing, in fact, with human beings.

And I'll tell you wine a little bit. But so anyway, she referred to them the gringo and the Peruvian. I mean, as the gringo. And the smaller one was my height. She called it. She said he was a smaller one. He was my height. And the taller one was taller than me.

They bring her behind the chicken coop. And they proceed to the first thing they did was they took out some cream and some powder. And the Peruvian guy who had her by the legs took out some cream and some powder and made a little concoction in his hand. and he took out a nasal syringe and sucked up this this concoction and shot it up her nose that's the that's the first thing they did this was obviously to immobilize her this was some sort of a narcotic to to render her either unconscious or semi-unconscious to make her docile then they he took out a larger tube it was like a large toothpaste tube and he and he squirted in some cream

in his hand, actually he scored it, I think he scored the cream in the other guy's hand, the gringo's hand. And the gringo, which is he's holding her mouth. So with one hand, he's getting this cream in his other hand. He takes that hand and begins to smear it all over her face. And as he's doing this, she says that the Peruvian assailant said to him, be careful, be careful, don't put too much on her face. It's going to ruin the flesh. And I had her explain that to me. What do you mean and she said well what they were saying was that it's going to cause the flesh beneath the skin to stick to the skin when they try and take the skin on when they go to cut the skin off something to that effect and she was speaking very very quietly very nervous and so then he puts this stuff on her

face her face instantly goes numb and instantly swells up and goes numb then he takes out this little device the the gringo holding her from behind and it's this I actually don't know which of them was taking this device out. It wasn't exactly clear. It doesn't really matter. One of them took this little device out, about, I don't know, five inches long. And it was some sort of a blade. And Doug and I think that it was a laser scalpel.

But we don't know that for sure. But it was some very fine instrument. And they proceeded to cut her neck. At first they made a cut, an incision in her neck. And I think she began to struggle. and so they restarted and they began to cut a little bit higher. As they're doing this, in the course of this encounter, she begins to struggle and she pushes up on the gringo's helmet.

She says it wasn't very difficult to lift up. She's starting to push up on it. She really didn't get a good look of what's under it, but she's pushing it up. And one of these two guys slaps her in the face. And during this struggle, they drop her. And so this gives her a moment to where the guy's hand is not over her mouth. It gives her a moment of freedom and she screams at the top of her lungs. And when she does this, remember what I told you, all the villagers are in a state of vigilance already.

They've got their guns and their flashlights. When she screams, all the neighbors come running. And her brother hops up. He was sitting on the porch with her dad. He hops up and runs around the house. They're there in a matter of seconds. They're on scene. And in the interim, she says that she hears these two assailants, the one, the Peruvian says,

Vamos, vamos, vamos, let's go, let's go. Let's get out of here. And the gringo, she said, says, no, we can't just leave her here. We have to take her. And he proceeds to, according to her, grab her by the hair and drag her on his board, mind you they're floating he's dragging her and then eventually at some point he lets her go realizing he's not going to be able to get away with her and at this point the villagers are on them there's and remember they're sort of down in the galley so the neighbors are now there with their flashlights

they see Talia laying there on the ground bloodied up they see the assailants floating on their platforms the brothers there there's a handful of them on scene they see these guys at close proximity, the perpetrators, there at the scene of the crime. And the and the assailants, they maneuver themselves on their circular platforms. They maneuver themselves to where there's not, it's not heavily forced at above and they shoot up into the air and escape. And Talia is left lying there on the ground. And she's in a state of disorientation at this point. And obviously her brother and the neighbors pick her up, bring her in the house, begin to treat her wounds, and her face is swollen.

It was swollen for eight days. Wow. And so here now we have a very human feeling phenomenon, albeit with advanced technology. Now we're starting to feel like this is human and very sinister. Now, Talia is extraordinarily traumatized. whereas there is no doubt, no doubt whatsoever that these assailants were attempting to, A, cut her face off and or be abduct her, take her up into the air and take her somewhere. We don't know exactly if they were going to lift her off the ground and take her to some other

location, but we know they were going to take her face off. They began to cut her neck. They made an incision on the bottom, as I said, and they redid it. They started over. So it wasn't like they were just trying to. And they weren't, they didn't cut deep enough to kill her. They were cutting just the epidermis, just the skin layer. Like they were going to rip it off.

Like they were going to cut it off her face. So weird. And so she is, she's so very traumatized. I think that we're dealing with a little bit of confabulation here. Remember, the communities in the jungle, as I said to you guys last time, the face peeler legend is extremely well known. Everyone knows about it in the jungle. Okay? Everybody in the jungle knows about the face peelers.

When you're a little kid growing up in the jungle, they say, don't go alone out alone at night in the jungle because the face peeler might get you. So it's just well-known legend. According to the legend, there are different theories on who they are. One of the theories is that, as I said earlier, they're gringos, their organ harvesting. or human trafficking gringos, then another hypothesis is that they're aliens. These two things go hand in hand, or you hear them both all the time. So it's not one or the other, it's both of these things mixed together, right? Nobody knows what they are, but those are the two hypotheses that the villagers have.

So in Talia's mind, she may think that these are gringo. She may have already presupposed that the face pealers are gringoes and then confabular. the speaking. And when I say confabulate, what that means is when something happens and you can't remember all the details, which is sometimes the case when something traumatizing happens to you, and you go into shock, sometimes people can remember every detail and sometimes people just can't hardly remember anything because there's just in a state of shock. It becomes very visual, but maybe not so much auditory. And so she may be confabulating the speaking because she was already under the impression that face peelers were in the village and their

gringos. You see what I mean? So she might have been confabulating. The other possibility is that she was hearing someone speak, but it was in her mind, it was in her head, telepathy. That's another possibility. The third possibility is that it was a Peruvian and a gringo. That's the third possibility. She was hearing them speak. But remember, this is an anomaly. Nobody else heard them speak. Nobody. Even the guy who shot the one dude and he fell on his, the one assailant, and he fell on his butt, that guy didn't shout out. He didn't say, oh, he didn't say any. He didn't get on his radio and say, hey, I'm hit, I'm hit. Nothing.

Nothing. He'd say nothing. They don't speak except for this anomaly. And of course, this is a very close encounter she's happening, and no one else had this close of an encounter. So either they spoke, either they're a Peruvian and a Gringo, okay, speaking Spanish and the Gringo broken Spanish. That's, let's call that option A.

Option B, they didn't speak at all, and she confabulated them speaking. In other words, confabulation means you fill in the gaps where there's gaps in your memory. Confabulation is artificially filling in those gaps with what makes sense to you, to your brain, right? That's called confabulation. So she's either really hearing them speak, confabulating, or she's hearing a telepathic communication. She's hearing it in Spanish or something. She's understanding it in some way. And she is then assuming or believing that that communication is Spanish.

and broken Spanish because of her pre-seposition that these are gringos, right? So those are the three possibilities. I did ask her about the hands. She said there were normal hands, but they had gloves on. There may have been a glove taken off at some point, but she was so unclear on some of these details. It seemed like irrelevant really to even ask those kind of questions. This is a very traumatized girl.

We know it happened because the neighbor saw it. Her brother saw it. They were there. There's the guys floating on their platforms escaping, right? There's Talia bloodied up on the ground. So we know they violently assaulted her. We know that they dragged her or floated her behind the chicken coop like she said. And her dad said she was found up on like closer up on the hill. So she probably was out of it by the time they started dragging her. She was definitely out of it when they found her. So at what point did she pass out right after she screamed? You know, I don't know. So the point is that this was a very violent, malicious encounter. They were going to do something horrifying to her, probably. cut her face off and or abduct her and do other things to her before they cut her face off, we don't know. But I can tell you this, that girl, something awful happened to her.

And her father, after this encounter, her father took her down to the village that had a better medical post, and they treated her wounds, and they diagnosed her with severe post-traumatic stress disorder. And what's really sad is Api Apu, Hyro, told me. He said, you know, he said, it's really sad. Talia used to be a really happy girl. She used to be really happy, you know, kind of bubbly 15-year-old girl, normal 15-year-old girl. He said, she's, she's ruined. This experience has totally destroyed her psychologically. She's, and it was very sad. Now, I do want to say this. I don't say this in the video, but I do want your audience to know that. this. Doug and I had the opportunity to pray with Talia. It broke our heart, this girl. It really

broke our hearts. And Doug showed her pictures of his daughters at her age. So she would know that we're not the bad guys. We prayed for her and her father. And I paid for her to go see a psychiatrist in Ikitos because that was the recommendation from the medical people over in the other village. They said she really needs to go to the psychiatrist and to help her work through the PTSD that she has. So we didn't just come in. interview this poor girl and walk away. So, and we did also, we also prayed with the villagers in general, the men of the village. Most of these men are not Christians are secular and nominally Catholic.

I will tell you, though, that they knew we were Christians. I made it very clear to them. And they knew that Christian brothers from the conduit church were instrumental in helping provision them. And on the final night, when I prayed for the men, publicly the governor you have the Apu who's the chief of the community he's the highest authority then under him there's a governor which is kind of like his vice president the governor is a Christian and he came up to me and he and he asked me to please send evangelists to

the village he said we'll receive them with great joy and hospitality and he said please send evangelists this village is ready now that's powerful for evangelists to come behind you guys so yeah and I did really relay that to the guys at Conduit. So that was Talia's story and obviously it's terrifying and she's not the only one in these jungle villages who's had this experience. Fortunately, Talia, they were not able to do whatever dastardly thing they were going to do to her. But unfortunately, they have succeeded in many cases out in these communities and people had been found dead with their faces gone. And there was, I think I mentioned earlier, there was a boy recently found

in a different village closer to Ikitos with just terrible lacerations, just like Talia, but these were big open wounds. So I don't know if these were the same, was that sort of a copycat thing? You know what I mean? Because those wounds were, I mean, it's very graphic. He survived. Thank God that boy survived, but some don't. I mean, some people just disappear and then some of them later are found dead with their faces gone. And they told me that, by the way, this phenomenon is only 40, 40 years old. It's about a generation old. It's not older than that. I got that very clear from these guys. I talked to them. I talked to the older guys and the younger guys. When did this legend begin? The grandfathers, it was not known to them. Their fathers, it was known to them. So it's about 40 years old.

It's one generation old, which is very interesting because what was happening a generation ago in the United States and probably all around the world, we were recovering alien technology, reverse engineering. Tim, Tim, I was going to ask you about that. That's maybe the first that I had and listening to these testimonies and what you found. I want to know what your best guess. You gave us a few options. And I think what's interesting, the only thing that I'm hung up on in the descriptions, honestly, is the height. Like, it sounds very human to me. Everything about it sounds human. You know, trying to hypothesize what's happening with the conversation, I think, is an important aspect to consider as well. But the fact that they are so tall is the only thing that really keeps

me from being like, man, this is definitely human and human using sort of maybe reverse engineered technology and nefariously. And it also, weirdly to me, sounds a bit like some of the things that happen in cattle mutilations, is of course associated with UFO stuff, right? It's the surgical removal of body parts. And I don't know if you ever, that may be, you know, a red herring aside. But what if you're just to sort of postulate, what do you think is your best guess? Or are you still kind of just like, I don't really... Well, first of all, I don't know. There's no way to know.

I can't say anything definitively. But I will say this. My hypothesis is that what we're looking at is nefarious humans with reverse engineered alien tech. That's my guess. Again, it's just a guess. Just a guess. And possibly, potentially working with non-human entities. And I'll tell you why in a minute.

But there's another, there's other possibilities, mind you. might these be elongated skull people might these be reptilians reptilians are described exactly in that manner they're tall they're about six and a half to eight feet tall the somewhere in there seven and a half feet tall they're strong and then we talked the first time i thought even like nordics like because you have that sort of like very very it could be it could be something like that yeah that's right that's right it could be something like that certainly could be hybrids it could be anything It could be anything. Now, if, in fact, Talia is not confabulating and they did speak one in Spanish and one in English, rather broken Spanish, a gringo, then I would have to say it's very clearly a human phenomenon.

It's hard for me to imagine any other kind of, why would they be speaking Spanish? The only reason they would be speaking Spanish is because they're operating in Peru and they're part of the some of the operators are Peruvians. Now, that's why I lean in that direction. I am assuming, tentatively, tentatively assuming that Talia did hear them speak with her ears audibly. I'm assuming that that's true. I do not know that it's true. And like I said, it might not be true, but I'm going to assume that it's true. and therefore conclude that we're dealing with nefarious human beings.

Now, why are they so tall? Well, the first thing is that Peruvians may be, these villagers may be exaggerating. It's night time, right? You have something all in the air, on a platform, yeah. Yeah. The second thing is, whatever technology is on their footwear may be giving them six inches to a foot height. Right? These are, they're floating.

They're on these disks. They don't just float. according to some of the villagers, they walk too and run. But you know what? It's nighttime. I don't know, but that's what they say. It's hard for me to imagine how you run with these shoes with discs on the bottom, but they found the imprints.

And by the way, they set up nine traps around the village. They set up shotgun traps with just barrels with cartridges in them and a hammer mechanism. And there's a trigger line. And when that line is tripped, the hammer mechanism is, triggered and the cartridge fire. They use this for small game, right? Almost all the game in the Amazon is small and they're usually killing things on the, moving on the ground. So they're usually a foot off the ground. And people get their ankles blown off all the time by these stupid traps. They're very dangerous. It's one of the biggest dangers of walking in the jungle of these traps.

They put nine of them around the village. And in fact, unfortunately, a woman walked into one, one of the ladies in the village. And it's even worse because they, raised the traps up because they weren't trying to catch game they're trying to catch these assailants right they raised them up to where they thought their knees would be so knee level so that would be thigh level on one of them right so they're they're trying to take their knees out with these with these traps this poor woman walked into one and it blew a hole in her thighs she survived but it was it was pretty ugly and this happened shortly before we got there also shortly before we got there a guy got bit by a fertilance and almost died

for Lance Snake. But so anyway, they would hear these traps going off in the jungle at night time. And then they would go the next day and they would see the imprints of these. And the shoes are very large. They're huge. And they would see these imprints. They said it's a shoe, but it's very strange. It's like two circles and you can see it's like a shoe, but very strange. They didn't have the, they didn't take any pictures of it. I don't know why, but they were terrified. They're living in a state of terror, not sleeping at night, patrolling the village every night with their shotguns. So I don't know if these assailants were just blowing the traps off because for fun, right? Or if they were actually walking into them.

But I do know that there was no blood, no shrapnel, no pieces of armor or clothing. They were just walking right through them or blowing them off intentionally. So it's a very physical phenomenal. It's not paranormal. It's definitely not paranormal and it's not mass psychosis. It's not hysterical It may be in some of these other villages. It may be in Ikitos, but it's not it's not mass psychosis. This is the first place it started to happen remember in recent years and and it never happened before in this village. There's never been a face peeler thing a face peeler phenomenon incident in this village before. So again to summarize, maybe the technology on the footwear elevates these guys six inches right so that's giving them additional height maybe the villagers are just

exaggerating all of them told me they were large and they and by the way again they didn't just say large up it was large out big dudes and and again reptilians are very large like that they're very built so it could be reptilians it could be hybrids it could be whatever but it also very could very well could be humans with advanced technology i don't know I just don't have enough information to know what it is. There's elements of this phenomenon that seem inhuman and elements that seem very human, like slapping her in the face. But whereas, by the way, this has nothing to do with alien abduction, with gray alien abduction.

This is a totally different phenomenon. However, the violence, the slapping in the face, that is well within the realm of the reptilian-type activity. Those beings are alleged. I don't even know that those exist for sure. But in the lore and euphological lore, those beings are very much. very violent and aggressive and anger. So all of this, all of this does fit the reptilian profile, by the way. So and we don't know. We don't know. Reptillions, I don't know how many fingers they have. Maybe they have five. I don't know. But, and I think they do have five fingers. So wearing gloves,

for all intents and purposes, if these reptilians exist, the way they're described, if they're wearing head-to-foot body armor, we wouldn't be able to distinguish between them and a big human being. They would move like us. They would because they're bipedal. They've got arms and legs just like us. I do not believe they have tails. They just have this strange, scaly skin and, you know, their faces are very strange. But for all intents and purposes, if they're fully covered up and body suits, they're going to look like big dudes, right?

So that's why I'm, and by the way, they would have larger feet, I think. Maybe that's why the shoes are larger. So could these be reptilians? Yes. Could they be? They're not grayed. They're not small gray. Are they tall grays?

I don't know. I don't think they are. But we're not done yet. So I don't know if you guys want to continue. Do you want to continue on this episode or do you want to put a pin in this and do a part two of this when I get back from Guatemala? Because I've got some more. And Tim will tell you on a boat in Costa Rica.

The answer. Yes, that's true. I will. I think it's also really interesting that no one really did this at this point. It's so disingenuous for people just to be like, well, you talk to these people that were high-ranking naval officers and military people. And then they're just, they poo-poo this whole thing. And you get there and you realize that people have PTSD. They burn down acres around the village.

They're setting traps. They all sit and say the same thing. They carry their shotguns. They're on alarm. You have terrified people that move their gardens in the city. There's something really real happening here. People don't do that, you know, because of a hoax or because of nothing or because they're all having mass psychosis, especially when you have these real, you know, you have this. continuity of encounters that line up and really and really mirror each other or compliment each other.

And that's what's crazy. And so, yeah, I'm excited about the second part of this episode, this episode is part two, because I think unwrapping, you know, why the locale, what else found as you dove deeper into this investigation and maybe how we're supposed to think about this moving forward? Because I think the other fascinating thing, and I think we should talk about this in the second episode is you talk about a 40-year phenomenon. So as you pointed out, it lines up with the alleged discovery of and reverse engineering of craft. We're talking about Bob Lazar,

all these things that happened when, and even the whistleblowers, we've talked about Tim, on episodes with you on our show, where we have whistleblowers coming out saying, we've recovered craft and bodies and reverse engineering these. And so that lines up.

Yep. And, you know, but I'm excited to understand why this place and then 40 years, you know, and how these things, you know, what you've discovered about,

about all of that. Right. And yeah, so just you'll remind me that I'm going to talk about the other incident that we investigate in a different location, but also I want to talk about how we trained the natives and the villagers and what we left them to help them defend themselves and record the phenomenon. Remind me to discuss at least those two things. And then I'll add some additional thoughts.

In the meantime, people can go over to my YouTube channel and watch. It's my after-action report and analysis. It's a video. There's some footage from the village or some footage of the things I'm telling you. You'll see Talia and hear her story. I published it yesterday. It's got 80,000 views already. Let's go. And on Reddit, it's got like 150,000 on Reddit.

It's just like going viral. There's a lot of interest in the store. I've got the people from Daily Mail contacting me, the sun contacting me. Here's something for you guys. I've been contacted. I won't say which shows, but some big shows want me to come on. I'm going to be going on when I get back from Guatemala. But this is the first show. I've done. My man.

Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. You know, and Tim, I was going to say, it's a good thing that you're on the, on the, not on the business end of the camera, you know? You got, you got, you got good lettuce. You know, you're a good looking guy. So it's good at the other side.

I've got the face lettuce, though, like you guys. I'm, I'm quite envious of your face lettuce. You know what? It's, you know, maybe. Maybe. Maybe, maybe it'll sprout, you know? No, no. I've got too much.

Me and my twin brother, neither of us can grow much facial lettuce. because we have Native American blood. And my mother's maiden name was running. So it was like running bull or running fast or running away. Something like that. Yeah, yeah. I love it. It was like, there's some Native American.

So it's like mixed in with the Italian. So, no, I don't have that ability, which, again, I'm quite envious of your, of you gentlemen's robust facial here. Thank you. Hey. And you're, you're off again to try. again to travel man when you get back you're going off to guatemala i know you're doing some scouting for a future uh expedition trip out there yeah actually guatemala everyone knows that we did that trip in

peru recently uh and so i'm out scouting another one in guatemala to see guatemalasas it's closer it's cheaper it's quicker to get to and it's the maya maya civilizations which is which is the maya are very anomalous very anomalous very anomalous i think that there's some very There's some interesting connections to the pre-flood world with the Mayan. So I'm going to go on this little adventure with my son and kind of do a dry run of what a trip would look like. Maybe a blurry trip. Hey. Hey, hey, hey, hey.

And speaking to blurry trips, we got five tickets left to our VIP. So that's it. That's it. Yeah, come to Costa Rica, February. That's going to be, I'm super excited for Costa Rica. that is going to be great. It's not a big huge group of people. It's not a big conference crowd. It's only 150 people. It's very intimate. And it's going to give us an opportunity, both you guys and me, to talk about some things that we don't often talk about or, in my case, ever talk about on podcasts or publicly.

I'm going to be telling a story, one of the stories from the jungle that's related to this incident that everybody wants to know about. I don't have time to tell the whole entire thing. I'm going to tell one or two incidents that happened that are related to that. So it's going to be a lot of fun. And yeah, we only got a few spots left on the VIP is going to be great. It's a sunset catamaran VIP trip. And we got this whole catamaran to ourselves and we're going to be looking for whales and snorkeling and going to a private beach.

and then afterwards going to like a beach restaurant and all of us just hanging out for the evening. It's obviously all inclusive. And you get your, you get your admission, your event admission when you sign up for the VIP. So you get your ticket to the event as well. Yeah. So if you're listening in Kazakhstan right now and number one show in nature and you'd like to join us, this is a trip is very nice. Nate may be wearing some very Cossack swimwear on the boat.

That's right. Neon orange. Neon orange. But, hey, Tim, we're grateful, man. We're glad to came back safe. Always the best to have you here with us. And thanks for sharing your story with us first. Yeah, man.

It means a lot, dude. Well, I know that a lot of people in your audience are praying for us and thinking about us and sending us emails and messages on Facebook. I don't have a Facebook account on Twitter. and Instagram and MySpace. And I really appreciate, I really, my space, yeah, I was getting a lot of MySpace action. Everyone in the Bloyverse has got Tim in their top seven. From the 25 people that are on MySpace.

Yeah. But, I mean, there was a lot of danger involved and there was, you know, an element of danger. And I appreciate everybody's prayers. And I want to thank Doug Thornton for accompanying me. Doug was awesome. We're going to talk about what Doug did. Doug had a special role to play in this whole thing, which we'll talk about in the next in the next episode.

And again, I want to think again, Jamie Brandenburg, Darren Tyler, Todd Smith, and the group of guys, an awesome group of guys from Conduit Church. And all of you guys from Conduit Church listening to this, that village is primed. They're primed for the gospel of Christ. We went in and we planted the seeds.

Now somebody needs to go in to water and harvest, and I can help with the logistics of that. So anyway, thanks for having me on, guys, and thanks for having me on, guys, to talk about this. And thanks for having me on before I went. That was important for us to make sure we had the exposure. So everybody knew what we were doing. You know, and I already explained why that was important for us.

So when I get back from Guatemala in 10 days or so, Part two. I might have some more blurry stories to tell after you get back from Guatemala. And never ends. When I get back from Guatemala, and I will talk about, because I am visiting the Mayan ruins. So maybe we'll mix a little bit of that in there. that conversation.

We'll definitely tell you. Don't step into a portal, Tim. We need you back. No, that's how I'm getting there. I don't fly in airplanes anymore. Send it on over here. Ever since we discovered that portal in Peru, I quit flying on an airplane.

I just used the portals. Yeah. I saw some pictures of your luggage when you left Peru. You had this round disc shape. Sometimes I go through the portals and I got somebody else's luggage on the other side. I'm wearing somebody else's clothes.

I mean, the one in Peru smelled like, smelled like urine, but it's still, it worked just fine. you know what the secret is open those portals it's not what everybody else says it's not like you know frequencies and it's not like bigfoot's screaming or something it's my pachos it is oh just there it is my pachos you leave him out for the guy with a stump leg and he you know he opens up the door for you that's an inside joke and people will have you have to come to costa rica to figure out that's right and that's how we do it here on blurry creatures we have been one hour tim alberino episode and two hours

exactly. Yeah, those two hours went by fast. There's just loves and fishes, man. We just multiply the hours here. That's all. Yeah. Well, thanks, Tim. All right.

Good to see you, bro. They say how to the fam. Tell you guys said, hey, yeah. Likewise. All right, bro. We will do. Hey, Nate, say how to your squirrel. He's gone.

Dude, him and Nate had a fight, man. They're not on speaking terms right now. Yeah, he bit. Bad blood between. Man, he's got issues with these animals. Dude, I do it. Seriously. He's like, he's, yeah.

Let's keep, let's keep, it's not a good idea to take Nate to Guatemala, I don't think. We're going to have a monkey incident. Dude, any kind of, yeah, any kind of animal life that's around, you can guarantee it's not going to like Nate. I don't know. He's probably, he's probably good repellent for things like Dogman and Bigfoot because the animals just don't want to be around them. They don't want to be around.

Anyway, they don't want to be here. Well, all right, Tim. All right, gentlemen. Thanks a lot. And I'll see you on the other side of Guatemala. Sounds good. Be good. See you soon.