Blurry Creatures - EP: 209 The Marine Kingdom with Dan Duval

Episode Date: December 12, 2023

From the siren's call to the underwater cities said to exist beneath the ocean's surface, we embark on a journey into the unknown, guided by Dan Duval's deep insights and expertise from years of interviewing and helping SRA survivors. Whether you are seasoned in the blurryverse or a curious new seeker of hidden truths, this episode promises to open your eyes to the wonders of the underwater world and the mythical realm of mermaids, elementals, principalities and more. So, grab your headphones the secrets of the deep are waiting to be unveiled. Guest: https://bridemovement.com Intro song: Sunglasses Kid contact: [e-mail] blurrycreatures.com Socials instagram.com/blurrycreatures facebook.com/blurrycreatures twitter.com/blurrycreatures Music Kyle Monroe: tinytaperoom.com Aaron Green: https://www.instagram.com/aaronkgreen/ Mastering: ironwingstudios.com Outro Song: TimeCop1983: timecop1983.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Luke so often, people email us and they have this story. They're out in their woods and they're looking in the bushes and they got, What's that? And when you are pouring your dog food and your dog's bowl, that's the last thing you want to say. What is that? What is the stuff coming out of this bag? You know, I don't think a lot of us think about maybe what we feed our dogs. And that's why we partner with rough greens.

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Just cover the shipping. Go to roughgreens.com and use discount code blurry. That's RUFF Greens.com discount code blurry. Rough Greens makes any dog food better. Speaking of underwater activity, like you do have different kinds of bases underwater. Like you have spirit cities underwater, which is like underwater Spirit Kingdom stuff. But you also have underwater like alien bases and outposts where like you do have alien grays sitting in almost like a domed and maybe like camouflaged. Well, you wouldn't know it was there unless you knew it was there.

And the USOs actually do go into, they're all there. They're like bases like military bases where, but mostly aliens are up. what we would call aliens are operating out of those. And then you have underwater military bases. They're usually in the seabed or connected to it. And so you have a lot going on underwater, and not everything is all just taking orders from the same guy or the same counsel.

And so, yeah, but then in the midst of all of this activity, you have the Merle. The history of our Earth is so different from what we can imagine. Joy to journey. The Smithsonian, but if they've found, out about a large skeleton somewhere was to go get it. I'm going to assume at least one person is right, because if one person's right, it bust the paradigm. It all goes back to the fallen chair.

And the problem with the modern day church, they have a very truncated view of supernatural. This backdrop that's just pregnant with all kinds of meaning associated with this Mount Hermon event. And this guy defects from the kingdom. That's a big deal. All right, welcome back to blurry creatures. We got Dan DeVall back on the podcast, and, you know, I don't really know how to explain what this episode is going to be. We're going to talk about mermaids, which is going to get us into water kingdoms and all kinds of weird stuff. If you're a first-time listener, keep an open mind, this is like jumping in the stream, but the stream's been flown for a couple years, and we know a thing or two about how the stream works, I guess, or where the stream is sort of located.

And so when you jump in, it's a little wild, right? We ring on guys that have more opinions about the blurry verse. Guys like Tim Alberino, Dan DeVall, Laura Sanger, people who speak in more of matter-of-fact tone. And that kind of ruffles some feathers. But you got to love the people that are boldly saying, this is what I've experienced. These are the stories I've heard. This is the reality that I've sort of been able to put together based on these interactions. So it can ruffle some, it can really get people going, right, Luke?

It gets people going, you know. I don't even know what that means. Now, listen, like the splurried creatures, right? So we're talking about creatures, and today we're talking about murphoke. So, you know, whether your experience is the Little Mermaid and you're a kid of the 80s or splash. We're going to talk about, you know, sort of the ancient creature and mythology around murfolk and perhaps a reality in realms around that creature. I don't know how to put that, but it does feel a lot, like, in some ways, like we talk about Sasquatch and some of the other creatures on this show. But this will be a fun one.

You know, Dan is a fan favorite, or the opposite of that, depending on who you speak to. But we love Dan, Daniel DeVall. He's been such a great friend of the show, and it's always a trip down to the weirdest of weird rows and we get Dan on. And so buckle up for this one. But I think you're going to, if you've listened to the show and you're following along on this journey podcast, I think you're going to hear a lot of things that you've heard. before included in bits and pieces in some of these some of the story. So we're excited to have Dan back and to do a Dandabal episode. People have been asking, Blurry Delivers.

That's right. This goes to 11 with Dan. Don't even look at it. Don't even look at it. No, I think it's true, Luke. I think when you talk about, like, for instance, you talk about ancient giants, you have to sort of describe the world that the ancient giants lived in, where they came from, how they had.

You can't just talk about that there were giants, right? And that's what we do on this show is trying to give you context and a framework to understand, okay, if these things exist, what, is the world in which they live around and where do they come from? And so when you're talking about these mermaids, you're going to talk about hollow earth, you're going to talk about underwater kingdoms, you're going to talk about, you know, all these things that have to be in place for this creature to exist. So it's not as easy as let's talk about mermaids, right?

And that's not what we do here. We try to get real deep into the understanding of how this thing could exist and what it might be. And as you know, it just gets more complicated per creature. So if you want to become a member and get more, more access to blurry verse blurrycreatures.com slash members help luke and i make this show another two-hour episode for you spend a lot of time curating finding recording this stuff on our and me mean and me me and a lot of memen and you know your your membership helps us keep the lights on keep producing keep pumping out content if you had something that you think is blurry worthy blurthy hit us up

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Welcome back to Blurry Creatures, author, pastor, podcaster, Dan Deval. This is your second or third appearance. This is the trilogy on Blurie Creatures. Dan, your executive director at Bride Ministries. with survivors of extreme trauma, satanic ritual abuse. We've talked about that a lot on the show. Government sponsored mind control agendas. But today, we're going to talk about something a little different on Blurger's. We're talking about mermaids and the murfolk. Welcome back to the show. I know you got a new book coming out. Lots to talk about today. Appreciate you coming on our podcast. I know you,

it's great because a lot of our members share your episodes in our members' feeds, the wild rabbit holes that you're going down, but we were talking before the show and you were saying, you know, usually when it comes to these complicated topics like aliens and Murfolk and Bigfoot, usually there's a wide variety of things that play. It's like D, all the above. There's, there's so many facets and parts to these, these topics and concepts. It's not just one size fits all answers. And you deal with a lot of these people that say, hey, not only do I believe in this stuff, but I participated in it. And it's probably the things you hear and the sort of the paradigm in the world you're in are so unique. So welcome back to blurry creatures. I'm excited to talk

about Murphoke. Yeah. That was a little bit of a long introduction. No, but I want to, before you saying anything, Dan, like you are in high demand. We probably get a few messages every week asking when you are coming back. So grateful that you decided to spend some time with us today. Our audience, he loves to hear what you have to say. And we're excited just to have you back in the blurry burst, Dan. Yeah. Let me just give your audience a shout out. We love you guys. As a matter of fact, there's been a whole number of people from your audience that have come to our platform, sat down with some of our coaches for help and ministry and deliverance from different things. And we're just excited to serve. I, you know, really have a heart for people that have been

through tough things and the things that they can't explain, the supernatural, the extraordinary. I mean, I was one of them, you know, and I shared that on the first time I came as like, yeah, I was sleep paralysis and seeing demons walking around and all kinds of unfortunate circumstances, torment around that. And, you know, it's hard to get the questions answered and any more the kind of things people go through now. It makes, like, what I was dealing with, like, kindergarten, you know, but we're here serving and we just want people to be helped. We want people to have peace, joy of the Lord. And sometimes with certain backgrounds, it's hard to have the joy of the Lord.

It really is. And so shout out to everybody. I thank you for your kindness. And for all of you that were looking forward to me, you know, glad to be back. Yeah. You know, you're right. And that's what I was saying before. With a lot of these subjects, when we begin to talk about the supernatural,

supernatural creatures, we say like things that do not exist in the zoo or in your normal walk down the street, it would be nice to put everything into one bucket and just to say, well, this is this. Like, an alien is a alternative creation of God that lives on Jupiter. That's just what it is. That's the whole conversation, end of story. And sometimes they visit, right? And so we can just put it in a box and just say, this is what it is.

But the deeper that we go into these conversations, the more nuanced everything becomes, the more complicated everything becomes. It's like, well, it's not just one thing. It's not just one thing, whether it's the conversation on the aliens. We almost did a Christmas special on elves. Unfortunately, I don't do. Well, we have another year. We might have to revisit that.

We're getting close. We might need to have you back quicker, quicker than before. We can still make that happen at some point. But coming to Murfolk, which is what we're here for, what I was saying was, it's not just a simple, like, one thing. This is what a mermaid is done. You know, Mermaid is a cartoon put out by Disney that they made into a full feature felt. Like, that's all it is done.

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I'm sure you know all the songs. Oh, gosh. Yeah, you know the headphones. They have to listen to those in school. and you know you guys remember the VHS tapes like oh yeah i think i saw that in theaters one of the first movies i got under the sea i could think i could sing the whole thing wow you know you know you know i mean we're kids of the 80s too luke likes to sing on this on this podcast no you know what wait wait wait wait wait it could you though like if we just were quiet would you

then i could between could and going to or or or would i think is a there's a there's a chasm there And the funny thing is Nate is actually the singer here. Nate was a frontman for a band for 15 years. You're not asking me to sing. But, you know, if we need to break into some Little Mermaid at some point toward the end of the episode, you know, we'll see if I can warm up the old. We do need to put out like a spoof Bigfoot record, like Tenacious D, but we only sing about Bigfoot, you know?

I think we could do it, Luke. I think as long as you're singing, I think we're probably in a good place. I mean, I'm happy to listen. Dan, I appreciate that. No, I like what you're saying, though, because I think, you know, a lot of folks that are in our age bracket in this space will have some sort of this is your baseline. You remember the Little Mermaid, Disney movie, Under the Sea. But this is like an ancient thing, right? I mean, we talk about, we've heard about sirens.

You know, that goes back to Ulysses and the Odyssey. And, I mean, this is an ancient, ancient thing. And then, of course, there's been, you know, if we're talking about just on a baseline, there's weird stories that people have. Nate, there's a guy that we tried to go on the show a number of times who said he heard sirens. There's the one, there's that. Oh, he filmed them. There's this guy, so there's a fisherman who films them from time and time. He hears him singing at night.

He films him, and he swears sometimes he'll see him swimming next to the boat. You see these like lumps in the waves. But he filmed them. It kind of sounds like, it kind of sounds like a blend between an animal and a human sort of in the distance, this like these cries. And some of his videos went viral. He's trying to become a rapper. her, so he's a little preoccupied. He won't come on the show.

But it's intriguing, and his videos have gone viral because people are like, this dude's just filming on his boat and you can hear him in the distance. I don't really think he's spoofing him. Yeah. So there's still, apparently, people are having these sort of TikTok video encounters with these things. Yeah, that and I know there was this crazy story. I'm not going to this wrong.

I think it's out of the Congo or Nigeria where there was a bunch of construction workers that were working on. Do you remember this one, Nate? We're working on a dam there, and they all quit because they claimed there. was there were murph folk in in in the water and this is more modern it or you know this is not a these are not the old seafaring tales which was there are tons of this is this is like you know in the last decade yeah this is today's and that's really i mean when it comes to i feel like even my baseline here need that's that's where it ends i like you started with with vhs and little mermaids because

you know he had three ninjas and i would get heavyweights was one i had on vhs and we're not going to get into quoting all that hey you didn't watch splash growing up splash I mean, I remember Splash, but I don't, I didn't watch Spash. So my sister loves Splash. She even made a mermaid suit and used to sit out by the pool. It got a little weird in my house growing up, but. This makes a ton of sense. Splash was a big deal.

Anyway, Dan, we're here for you. You tell us. We're here to derail. We're here to derail this conversation. That's all we know. That's all we know. That's, I'm sure that's not all you know. But, okay. All right. So I'll step in and share a couple of thoughts here. Now, now, now, that was my, you know, initial exposure to the concept of a mermaid. And it was just like, oh, it's just a cartoon friendly, this, that whatever. But you know, as time goes on, you do come aware of, wow, there's a rich history around Murfolk and Murfolk encounters. I mean, people have been painting them on the walls of caves for thousands of years. It's just, it seems to be pretty much in the, I would call it, the,

corporate or mass consciousness of human experience. Like from one end of the world to the other, people have these histories that include associations with Murfolk and pictures and it's not isolated to like just one spot on the planet. And this really opens up a realm of conversation that goes actually much further beyond Murpholk. It actually extends to what I would call the underwater spirit kingdom, which is a very broad subject. And that even expands a little bit further out into the conversation on the elemental kingdom, which is extraordinary. And I have a lot to say on all of that. And so the mermaids play a role as agents that really operate within the underwater spirit kingdom. They do actually exist. And so this is the

part where, you know, we get into the blurriness of the whole thing, right? It's like, well, well, if they do exist, then why, what does that mean? Why are they there? And, and, and this is where my response is, it's more complicated. It's, there's different facets to this whole thing. And, and, and so I'll just kind of at the beginning, kind of state a couple of categories of Murfolk that I'm aware of. Number one is the shapeshifter Morfolk. What, what that means is, just like you can have a person that is like that the whole liking deal with where they through demonic infestation, possession, enhancements, you know, initiations and rituals that allow them to go so far into the dark side, they gain abilities to actually change form physically. So you will have a

physical human being that with the demonic abilities and powers and all of that, they shape shift into another form entirely. So you have aware wolf, a where pig, where crocodile. I mean, this happens in the U.S. It happens in Africa.

This happens on, you know, where you have deep occults. This is like the Skinwalker phenomenon as well, right? Absolutely. Absolutely. So what I'm going to tell your audience is,

not only do you have shapeshifters in like the wear category of like wear animals or whatever, but the shapeshifting extends into the mirful conversation. Like there are people who can shape shift into a mermaid form with demonic power and possession. And that also changes the physiology to be able to be underwater. And this is the case with the person that I was interviewing on my podcast. Her name is Priscilla.

And her story is she was exactly that. Now, she's sitting as a human, like on my. podcast telling my audience, you know, tens of thousands of people around the planet about how she would shape shift into a mermaid. And she shared a lot of things about the nature of the initiation protocol and it includes some fascinating aspects. So a few of the things that she shared in her testimony where, like, number one, there was an engineering aspect to her conception. And, you know, there's been a lot of people ever since the Hitler project that have been engineered, you know, So they, you know, we would call it just IVF plus.

Like they do this in certain laboratories that are owned by globalists and military operation and things. So they're actually engineering fetuses with certain DNA that's not strictly human. And they're doing it underground and off planet and all that stuff. And they're adding extra ingredients because they're trying to get certain characteristics or abilities into the DNA that they can then activate later in the person's life. Think real life X-Men stuff. And so she even has memories of being in artificial wombs for prior to, you know, being born. And the original parents that she reports having, like, she's had to spend time with what she called Nephilim. She said, you know, they basically had no conscience.

They looked human, but they were there to torture her and torment her and be sure that she got the adequate amount of trauma once she was born through early childhood. And part of the initiation that was described. And people can listen to my podcast because this is not my information. But hey, you know, we're talking about it. I think our most downloaded episode is this. It's called The Hit the Project. And basically we brought on a survivor who went through it all. And she sort of tells her story.

So we're right. We're tracking with you. This is interesting confirmation because that's such a wild. I think inserting that idea or that truth into your paradigm is really hard for people. Because it's fantastical. You know, we had Survivor in the same way. that had been a part of the Hitler project and had a lot of the similar things.

I think the difference is what you're going to get into in the shape-shifting. That wasn't part of her story, but she has a bunch of things with Nephilim and being frozen and being... Things that sound really, really crazy on the surface. Yeah, sounds like a bad sci-fi movie. Yeah.

It really challenges your perspective on reality when you're like, is this this can really happen? Is this really happening? And I think a lot of people, like you can say in the beginning, people like to put these things in, it's a much easier to have things in a box

that is comfortable. And so the only reason I say that, Dan, I don't want to interrupt your flow here because I think you're drawing a really good linear line right now. But this is something that our audience has heard on our Hitler project episode with Dr. Laura Sanger and Elle.

They get real mad at us when it happens too. Yeah. I'm sure you get a lot of that, yeah. Yeah, well, that's what you all was saying when the other time I came on, you're like, This is like a conglomerate of all these different podcasts we've done and just dots are being connected.

Yeah. I'm happy to be a connector. Absolutely, Dan. So, yeah, don't want to cut you. I want to make that point. If you haven't listened to that episode and this is the first time you're turning in to glory creatures or you started somewhere in the middle. After you listen to this Murphoke episode, take a look at the Hitler project and you're going to see at least at this point in the episode, you'll see that there are a bunch of parallels between Priscilla and her story that we're going to get into and then also what we talked with Elle about. the Hitler project and her story. So really cool when that happens, but go ahead, Dan.

So, so what was described on my podcast, as far as like initiation protocols, she would be drowned regularly and often. Now, when you have a person that is being groomed by the occult, they like to either create near-death experiences or complete death and resuscitation experiences. this because one of the things that does is it, first of all, shatters the soul and trains the soul to go out of body. Like the soul actually gets used to going in and out of the body back and forth because your body is dying. You're leaving your body.

And then they resuscitate you and your soul comes back in and then you die and it goes out and so it's just like astral projection kind of thing. Yeah. It's a total initiation into. astral projection abilities, like the near death. If you don't have a lot of near-death experiences in young childhood, astral projection for the average person requires a lot of effort. It's not like, I can't, for me, I don't even know what it's like to leave my body.

Like, I can't kick myself out of my body and float around in the spirit world. I wouldn't even know where to start. So you, you know, you do have things like transcendental meditation and occult arts that try to teach people to do that. But when you have been tortured and killed repeatedly, it's like second nature. It's like, oh, yeah, I just in and out. So there's that aspect. But also, you know, for, for, for her, as they were doing this process, they were actually doing it a specific way where they would hold the legs together and drown her upside down and pull her out, drawn her like that. And so something was, essentially this is my takeaway, turning on in her modified genetics, bloodline iniquity,

whatever, and her legs were getting more and more slippery as they did this process many times. And then there was a certain point where it's like the legs got very slippery and she just slipped into the water that they were drowning her in. And there was like an initiation type thing that happens and onboarding of certain cult power and demons, and she's shape-shifting at that point. And the legs that were held together now become the fin, and she, for the first time, is taking on that mermaid form physically. And then later in life, you know, as a worker in the occult world,

they would just summon her. She'd just walk over to the shore and jump into the water, and her body would shift into the mermaid form, and she would begin to travel through the waters. And so, as with most, initiation processes, there's a lot of torture and death and all kinds of occult aspects involved. The same would go with people that learn how to be shape-shifting werewolves. Like, they go through heavy-duty preparation to be able to do stuff like that.

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is to sort of oppress humans, what would the goal be for sort of a mur person, Yeah, I mean, so as we like, what are they trying to do? As we're talking through this, right, it, you know, she described doing many missions. I mean, some of those missions, you know, they would actually target sailors at times or people that were on the water, pull them underwater to underwater rituals. So there was murder involved, commune with deep underwater powers. Because there's a lot of like big guys that operate in the deep.

And one of the things about the deep that people I think don't understand is that the deep of the earth that we live in is way more nuanced as well. It's a realm unto itself. In the mermaid form, she described being able to navigate the underwater labyrinths. And those are ways to get into not only the hollow earth realms, but also transport to alternate Earths. And so there's a lot of portals in there. There's also a lot of very scary creatures that lurk in the underwater labyrinths. And you need a combination of speed, ability, psychic power to be able to navigate those. But being part of that kingdom allows for humans to access these

realms that way. One of the interesting things that she described as well was being able to take on different forms as a mermaid. So like she described the difference between being in, you know, warmer waters in a certain form and then if she had to take a mission to the Arctic or the Antarctic then the the form that she had was actually more blubbery it was like there there were these arctic mirful forms that are different from the you know more warmer waters that you would find maybe in like the Mediterranean or you know certain seas definitely like weird Mexico all of these things like you know so i'm just listening right because I'm a guy. I'm just like, wow, okay, yep, yep, yep. So this is all, I'm just reporting at this

point. Right, right. Well, a lot of these topics, Dan, like, in my mind, we're not going to, we don't have to go here and talk about the Hollow Earth and stuff. But we talk, we've had people kind of casually drop that UFOs are underwater floating around that these things are going by. You see these things coming out of the water, coming out of the seas. So there's definitely, they're definitely flying into the, into the water, going through, you know, some of these things that are 300 times faster than any submarine or any sort of underwater thing that we can document. And this has been reported.

You know, it's been reported by our government. It's been reported by people in the Navy. So it seems like there is some, you know, we've talked about the traffic, but we haven't really talked about any of these kingdoms underwater. And I would add to that, like also biblically speaking, right, there was the biblical idea of, of the water was chaos and the demonic were in the water, right, which is what makes the Christ's walking on water and those things, you know, symbolic. Symbolically, yeah, very symbolic in the sense of his dominion over this.

But also you were like that from a biblical, like, you know, cosmology, if you will, sort of idea. Yeah, there's Leviathan. This is where the realm of the demonic, right? This is the demonic going to pigs and then going into the water. There's a lot of, it's interesting to me. There's a lot of that. And I'm glad you kind of were like, as you're sitting there asking the same question,

like, so what's the purpose here, you know? And is this an army of darkness thing? in addition to sort of doing, you know, these missions, as you say, is it, is this, is this about building an army for the, for the final battle as far as like an agenda? Does this feel, does this, along with the sort of the Nephilim agenda, does this display into that agenda? So you have these sort of, as you said, X-Men,

these sort of super soldier manipulations. Is that part of it or well or is it just a, thoughts on that, Dan? Because I mean, I have so many thoughts. So as usual, right, I'm trying to keep my thoughts straight so I can be organized. Sorry. We're not helping here. I apologize.

I'm just trying to help our listeners, Ken, and realize that this isn't the first time we've heard this, you know? So, yeah, okay, okay. So right now we're just focused on one aspect of the mermaid conversation, which is right, this. Shapeshifting. Which, the shape shifting portion of it, which was reported to me and I have plenty of podcasts people can refer to.

So I'm just playing the role of a reporter at the moment. But like, but okay. So speaking of underwater. activity. Like, you do have different kinds of bases underwater. Like, you have spirit cities underwater, which is like underwater Spirit Kingdom stuff. But you also have underwater, like, alien bases and outposts where, like, you do have alien grays sitting in almost like a domed and maybe like camouflaged, where you wouldn't know it was there unless you knew it was there. And the U.S.Os actually do go into, they're all, they're like, base.

like military bases where, but mostly aliens are up, or what we would call aliens are operating out of those. And then you have underwater military bases. They're usually in the seabed or connected to it. And they have some of those as well. And this is stuff that's been reported to me, but people that have been part of these projects or trafficked there.

And so you don't just have the deep underground, underground military base, but some of that extends to off-coast locations in like the seafloor realm. And so you have a, a lot going on underwater and not everything is all just taking orders from the same guy or the same council. And so, yeah, but then in the midst of all of this activity, you have the Murfolk thing, right? And so, all right, so there's that part. There's that part. U.S.Os are definitely a real thing.

Even if you consider, like, what goes on in Antarctica, like, you know, they have underwater access to some of the Antarctica bases and stuff. Like, you actually go underwater. And then there's the gates. And so anyway, the kingdom of darkness is certainly working on their agenda to bring in their new world order. And involving humans at different levels of this, I think is a hack and a usurpation on the original commandment because God said, you know, Adam or mankind, you will have dominion in the earth and you are going to be fruitful and multiply, fill the earth. and subdue it. And when God gave the command to subdue the Earth, that was just a general cover-all. Like, it subdue Eretz. Eretz is the Hebrew word for Earth, like the whole thing, not just the

surface. The command did not say the surface of Eretz. It's like the whole thing. So there's a certain like aspect of being human that entitles us with the responsibility to the whole of the planet. So when you have all of this underground, underwater, hollow earth, and humans being initiated into stuff there, but under the jurisdiction of evil powers, it's like, okay, but they're, they're tapping into something for a specific reason, and it has to do with humanity, what God ultimately designed humans to be here for. And so that, I think, goes in a lot of very interesting directions, but, you know, the devil hacks everything. He usurps everything. He counterfeits everything. he's a liar and the father of lies.

And I think he deserves everything he gets, which is why I wake up every morning. How can I kick the devil in the teeth today? Right. Yeah. But back to the main point. So, I mean, some of the things that Priscilla said were so fascinating. Another major bomb drop that she gave was they have like,

she would call them Queen Murfolk or so they're like more power. and even more deadly, right? They have more magical abilities. And she said, when you hit that level, you are able to get the octopus bottom as opposed to just the fish bottom. So the whole Ursula thing. Yeah. And Ursula was the big witch. And the little mermaid was like her victim, like, yeah, well, if you happen to be a high enough ranking, a cultist that has the Murfolk shape, shape, shift ability, and you do have the tentacles, you will probably have more power in the occult world than the ones that just have the fish tail. Interesting that Disney would tell us that in the 80s.

But, you know. So that's the hardest part about these stories, right? Is that, you know, the shapeshifting is so it sounds sort of magical, right? But didn't she shapeshift in the little mermaid? Like, that's exactly, but it was the other way. She started as a mermaid and shapeshifted to a human and then fell in love. That's true. That's true. Yeah, that's, no, that's interesting point. Like, I think they both did, right? Ursula did too as well. So, but I mean, we hear about this, right? I think there are stories on our podcast for someone shapeshifts into a bigfoot type creature. But then there are also bigfoot creatures that seem more on the animal mindset. So you have both of these things going on. So it's, it's really hard to know on our show, Dan, when the magical stuff happens, because I think it happens. sometimes, but it's not the whole picture. There aren't just people that are all mermaids walk

around, they just magically change it. That's not the whole story, I'm assuming. There are species of these things. Exactly. And so my conviction is not every murfolk that exists, and it's not like you run into them every day, right? But if you happen to be well-populated... Dan Duval might. Dan Duval might run into it more often. I'm not so convinced that every Murpholk that you would meet would necessarily be someone that has shapeshifted from the surface world. And you run into things like Dagon, for instance. Now Dagon was understood to be the fish god. He was actually a big player in Jonah was called to. Nineveh. Thank you so much, Nineveh. Yeah. Degon was a big player in Nineveh. He's like a fish god.

He's often pictured as having a fish tail as a bottom, although he can have legs in some of his depictions, I believe. And then he has the like fish hat that he wears. Okay. Kayak gets my flight, hotel, and rental car right. So I can tune out travel advice that's just plain wrong. Bro, Skycoin, way better than points. Never fly during a Scorpio full moon. Just tell the manager you'll sue. Instant room upgrade. Stop taking bad travel advice. Start comparing hundreds of sites with kayak and get your trip right. Got that right. So is Dagon a shape-shifting human?

Absolutely not. Now, that's an actual, either it's a fallen angel or some kind of high-ranking spirit-being entity that has perpetuated to humanity that it is a God or should be worshipped as a God, whatever his origin story is. I think Dagon is a fallen angel. I think God created Dagon and Dagon rebelled just like Lucifer. And, but he ended up relegated to a certain realm of the elemental kingdom, the water elemental kingdom in the deep, just like Leviathan. And he has, you know, sought out the worship of mankind

and has inserted himself in different ways. He was there in ancient history. And he's there in the Catholic Church, right, being depicted as the Pope wearing the same fish hat. I was going to say. Yeah, I was going to say that. And then we've talked about Daegon, Nate. Joe, my line. When the Philistines capture the, yeah, capture the arc. and they put it into into their, into their temple to Dagon, it falls down and breaks, this, this effigy of Dagon. And, you know, he's one of the national gods of the Philistines, at least the biblical account. It's interesting that he's got a fish body, though, you know?

Exactly. And so if you ran into Dagon underwater and he had a fish tail, like I would not say that that's not a shape-shifting human, right? So that's another category of quote-unquote Murpholk that is not human at all. And I think that you have a very strong case for that. So you have the shapeshifters. Then you have the spirit beings that take that form. And then I would say you have a whole other category, which is interesting because the other category is actually what I run into a lot.

And I'll explain how people experience this. So I work with survivors of satanic ritual abuse, government-sponsored projects, and history is wrought with trauma and pain and demonic stuff. And in the process of going through all of their trauma, their soul is being shattered. So the more the soul shatters, the more the enemy has to work with. One of the things that Ezekiel writes about is that there are soul hunters. And God is rebuking them in the book of Ezekiel, I believe is chapter 13. And he's like, you know, you who hunt souls to make them fly. And he's talking about these witches that are essentially using these pillows to try to hunt and capture souls.

Well, the reason why souls can be hunted is because when a person has been through enough trauma, the soul is shattered and those shards of soul, however big they may be, can be captured, pulled out of body, trafficked on trade routes, sent to different realms. And they know this and they do this. Even with UFO abductions, oftentimes there are going to be parts of the soul that are abducted and kept. So we will be working with people that are, say, targeted individuals and know they've been through alien abduction experiences.

And we begin to work with the Lord. And it's like, well, where are some of these soul parts? And it'll be like, well, they're sitting in Orion. They were actually soul parts sitting in Orion. It's like, how did they get there? They were trafficked there because it turns out that humans aren't the only one soul hunting. These entities are doing it too. And they get power from it. Because humans are like these giant battery packs. We emit so much energy.

Humans have their own duneumous. And when you mine it, you can use it for all kinds of things. The human emotion is extraordinarily powerful, filled with energy. And it's from the soul. So the soul has, you know, mind will emotions. Like they, they want this stuff. They want what humans have. And so they, they, they mine it. They come after it. They take it. What happens, though, is sometimes, you know, people will have, and I would call it DNA, sometimes RNA, soul parts, their traffic to the realms of the underwater kingdoms and they end up being laced into entities that are armor folk. And so I'll be sitting in a session, say, with a person and it'll be like, well, you know, why are you having all of these sexual dreams at night, for instance?

I can't stop all the sexual dreams at night. It's kind of harassing and embarrassing and it just keeps going on and on. And it's like, okay, well, what is that tied to? The next thing the person knows is they're being caught up into an experience where they're actually seeing and hearing a mermaid underwater. And it's like, am I connected to you? And it's like, yeah, part of your soul happens to be sitting inside of that entity underwater. And it's like, we have to get the person's soul piece untangled from that entity,

which anchors it as and basically opens up like a quantum bridge to the person's surface world experience. And it ties it to the sexual defilement of the underwater spirit kingdom, right? And it's like, but the deliverance is we're actually separating them from a murphalque or a mermaid. But the sexual nature of these things is what lured the sailors to their death, right? They were, isn't that sort of they were like lusting after these beings? And then they kind of lured them in that way? Is that sort of the history of these things too? Yeah, yeah.

One of the things that you learn in deliverance ministry is that there's a whole lot of sexual. perversion that associates with the underwater spirit world as a rule. It just, there's a lot of that that comes from that realm. It's extremely common. It's just a trend. It's like literally, it's just a fact. So, yeah, I mean, and then these kinds of ideas get written into accounts and stories. And so we'll get the persons like delivered of this entanglement with this creature or the

creature will be taken apart completely underwater, like spiritually deconstructed. and we'll be able to get the person's soul part back. There may be other things mixed in. And my conclusion is some of the entities that you're running into are really more like clones. They're almost like they're just built. They're just like built somewhere in an underwater lab. And then they like put human soul essence and other stuff in these bodies. And then the person is held in bondage to whatever they're using that thing for,

under the water. Like an avatar. And see, this opens up the whole conversation on cloning, which is pretty much the same thing, like, because the same thing in the secret space program. In the secret space program, they will build bodies and put pieces of people's souls in those bodies. And those bodies will be off planet. They'll be commanders of starships.

They'll be slaves. They'll be doing this and that. And the person sitting here in a physical body on the earth, but the piece of their soul is simultaneously sitting in a clone body off world, and they're taking orders from a reptile. And we'll run into that, just like we'll run into the Murpholk problem, and we'll have to pull the soul out of that thing and get it cleansed from the blood of Jesus, the living water, and put it back in the body. And people then get delivered and stuff clears up, and they stop having this problem, and their body gets fixed, and they physically healed. I mean, we'd see this every day

all the time. So... Does this have anything to do with, like, people who say they have, like, past life regressions, like part of their soul might, you know, like, because people will all say, like, my child is describing someone who lived 500 years or 300 years ago, stuff like that. I mean, I'm just trying to understand this soul splitting concept that you're. Nathan, do you really want to ask me this question? This is going to take us off from our folk. Okay. Okay.

I mean, it's just, I mean, I'm sure people are thinking. I have something to say about this, and it's not what you think. Okay. I don't know if you're ready. I don't know if your audience is ready for this part. Oh, Dan, here we go. is very deep. I think we might want to just put them. Let's put, we should put a, if you could do like a little, a little like two minute ran on it and then we can come back,

but not going to be two minutes. Okay. Let's, let's, uh, the asterisk that for another time. I'm just trying to understand the soul splitting concept. I mean, we've heard about it. It's popularized by Harry Potter and things like that. They probably, there's probably some ancient stories. I mean, because everyone now lifts from the past and everyone's just recreating these stories and sort of a new marketed version of it. But, you know, that's a hard. concept for a lot of people to wrap their minds around. Okay. So past lives and soul splitting are two completely different conversations that both are deserve

a thorough, like, addressing. We can do that next. You know, you went into this thing, right? Because there are people now, they may call themselves like Starseed or different. There are people that are coming in and they're like, I have. memories of a whole life I lived on Orion or in Sirius B or on Mars. And I'm now on Earth in this body, but I'm actually a cosmic being that comes from this experience.

And then they have this whole chronology and story that they are sharing. And people are, especially Christians, are scratching their head like, what the heck? Are we supposed to do with it because we believe that you are born? And then you die and you will go to heaven or hell based on your response to Jesus Christ. So what do we do with this? Yeah. Okay. So that's that's its own conversation.

And I have some very, very interesting observations on this one. Right. Yeah, we can do a whole episode. So let's circle back. So we've got shapeshifters. We've got soul splitting. You got avatars. You've got clones.

Well, you called Elementals. Soles. Okay. Can you talk a little bit about elementals as far as like what that means and what that entails? because I think that's something that we really haven't covered. Nate, we talked about it a little bit on the episode with the Giant in Hawaii. There was a little bit of talk of elementals there.

I know this is a term that goes around, but I don't know that we've really sort of explained what that is on the show. Okay, so I'm very excited to talk about elementals. Now, this does completely fit with the theme of this show because you asked me to talk about Murphil. Now, Murphold would associate with the water spirit kingdom, the water kingdom.

The water is one of four, four primary elementals on the earth. The four primary elementals are earth, fire, air, and water. Now, the thing about elementals is that because they are found in so many other belief systems, Christians cringe when they hear elementals because they think, all this is New Age, or this is Buddhist, or this is Japanese philosophy, or this is Hindu stuff, because it's in all of these different beliefs. What I tell people is, well, no, the elementals just are. Therefore, they are acknowledged by all of these belief systems. And by the way, our Bible talks extensively about the elemental kingdoms. The Bible spends an exhaustive amount of time addressing Earth, addressing

fire, addressing wind, and addressing water. And when you'd be actually making unpack elementals from a biblical perspective, what you realize is that there are elementals at different realms. Like, there are basically what I would call godly elementals, that they are completely, undefilable. And that would be living water. That would be the all-consuming fire that is God, right? That would be the wind of the Holy Spirit, because spirit is literally ruach, which means wind. And Jesus is the rock of our foundation, chief cornerstone. Like, what is a stone? That's earth. So literally, God is an elemental spirit. And that's a beautiful. What did you just say? But no, God. Tell me how God is not living water. You have forsaken me in Jeremiah chapter 2.

You have forsaken me, the fountain of living waters. Like, what is God saying there? So, so elementals begin with who God is, and he creates out of his perfection, a creation that done does actually become defileable. So you have heavenly elementals, and you have earthly elementals. Heavenly elementals include the sun, the moon, stars. Those are heavenly elementals. And then you have earthly elementals, earth, fire, air, water.

You do have fire in the heavens as well as water and wind, you know, but you, you You do have like different categories of elementals in the earth. Everything that exists interacts with the elemental kingdoms. And when we begin to understand, okay, all right, so elemental kingdoms are definitely being referenced throughout scripture. What you realize is this adds a whole other category of encounter that most people, I think, is going to be just new for a lot of believers. But not for your new agers and your witch doctors and maybe your shamans that might be

listening to me. Because they know in the occult world that there is a difference between like baffaments and tree spirits. Like they know that. And so there's a whole category of spirit beings that fall into the elemental spirit being category. They're not purely demons. But they do have sentience and consciousness and associate with earth, fire, air, or water. Some of them are desperately wicked and completely defiled, like Leviathan and Dagon. These are like water spirits, but they're completely.

completely evil. But then you also have this thing in like the book of Revelation where it says, oh, well, I heard the angel of the waters say. Like that's actually quoted right out of the book of Revelation. There's an angel in this doing its job and it's assigned a post and it has to do with the water elemental kingdom and it serves God. So there are even angels that take posts relative to different areas of the elemental kingdom. So when we begin to look at the elemental kingdom, we see a whole new realm of reality and understanding the world that we live and why things work the way they work, because you can't even understand the systems of the occult until you begin to understand elemental kingdoms. For instance, most magic works on elemental power. Most magic works on

elemental power. Like, it's not just a witch saying words and then something happens. Like, they will put a water bowl or they burn a candle or they'll have feathers or what are they doing. They're actually bringing an elemental kingdom in and they're focusing their own power on the item that connects them to that elemental kingdom to draw power from the elemental kingdom to then produce whatever it is that they are speaking to or trying to do. So you have this whole thing. thing in the occult world where people learn how to work with one elemental kingdom at a time. And the more proficient, they become across more elemental kingdoms, the more powerful they are as a witch. And so, let's say a person learns to use the water elemental kingdom and the wind

elemental kingdom and can do elemental magic using both of those very proficiently. Well, they can begin to do things like create storms and really weird weather patterns with their occult power. Well, if you add fire to that, if you add earth to that, like, you have certain witches that have, you know, an extraordinary ability to do destructive things with, with their ability to engage those realms. One of the, one of the keys that I learned about, about the elemental kingdoms is that everything has duneus, duneus, and to, you know, just anchor this, right? I did a whole series of this at the Bride Industries Church. I talked about elementals for three months. wealth parts on this.

I mean, I have so much content on this. It's ridiculous. I just have a thought here. It seems as though, like a lot of times we think, when we think of angels and we think of Christ, that Christ just snaps his fingers and everything happens, right? I'm sure, you know, he does that sometimes in the miracles, but a lot of miracles involve the elements, the water, the ceremonial washing jars, the blood, you know, the wine, rubbing the dirt on the guy's eyes.

He's using the elements. Is that sort of, and then obviously what Luke said a minute ago about the calming the seas and walk, you know, there's a storm raging. Is that like, is he, is this like a 4D metaphor going on here a little bit? Yeah. Well, one of the things that have happened is like, you mean, you see this with the prophets and with Jesus. Like every kingdom within the elementals responds to him in his role as God and man. Like Jesus walked on the water. The water, part of the, with Jesus and became solid so he could walk on it because it was like, I'm bowing the need to you as water.

Like, we surrender. We understand. You're God. But God even demonstrated this through like Elijah. Elijah was interacting with the elemental kingdoms and his miracles. I mean, he, this is such a powerful teaching. But when you look at how he did the sacrifice, right, he took water and dumped it over the sacrifice that was to be consumed by fire. And, you know, it sat on the earth or like a rock.

I mean, the elemental kingdoms were sitting all over that miracle when God devoured the sacrifice by fire, licked up all the water in the process. God used Elijah to stop the rain. And then he caused the rain to come back. Miracles, you know, God had Elijah encounter the still small voice when he went into the mountain. And it was like, well, there was the, you know, the strong wind, fire, you know, all this stuff that's going on. This is all elemental kingdom interactions. Even in the ministry of Moses, you know, there's this massive rebellion of Cora.

And God's like, this is about to be judged. So who does he partner with to judge the rebellion? He doesn't partner with the Philistines or the Canaanites. And in this case, the earth swallowed them up. It just opened up like a big mouth, and they went inside the earth and the earth closed up. The whole thing was judged by the earth itself. Wow. So all throughout the Bible, you see God is, his works are interacting with the elemental kingdoms.

I mean, the flood of Noah. The fountains of the deep were broken up. More water came out from the earth up than rained down onto the earth. It was like the fountains of the deep made way from. for all of that. And this is another interesting conversation. So coming back to the whole conversation on the Murpholk and the deep underwater kingdom, there is this reality that there are like aquifers.

In other words, you can go under the water, then you hit the seabed, and then you go under the seabed, and there's more water. It's like underground, under the earth crust, water areas. And there's a massive aquifer right off of the east coast of the United States. States. I mean, it's like you go under the Atlantic Ocean through the ground and there's a whole other sea down there. Well, so we brought David Politis on the show who does missing 411 and he says a lot of these missing people are linked to the aquifers underground, underwater. So he thinks that some of these things, these things are, whoever is taking people, supposedly are using these

aquifers to travel. But that's just the thought that I remember him saying. Because I didn't understand, like, how does aquifers have to do anything with missing people and all that? So, Dan, can I some really a really dumb question real quick on the elementals. So if we think about what makes up nature, right? These are the things, God's shown his dominion over nature. Basically, on a very baseline level, we're talking about like fallen angels and demonic spirits

and also non-rebellious angels, if we're just sort of talk like that, have sort of assignment or dominion over these aspects of nature. Am I surmising that correctly? Like, that there are... Yeah, what I'm saying is the elemental kingdom includes a whole subset of spirits that are neither angels nor demons, that the elemental kingdom, there are actually elemental spirits.

Okay, that makes sense. I mean, I think we just says we default right on a very practical baseline as Christians is everything that is angel or demon, right? And I think we've talked on the show about a bunch, you know, not just this episode, but most episodes about how there is a multitude of creation in the spiritual realm, supernatural around, blurry creatures, right? That we don't really even have kingdom for. We don't have phylum or family for necessarily.

We just sort of think very binary when it comes to the supernatural or to the spiritual realm. And so in that case, it's trying to wrap my brain around the terms that we use and sort of, I'm going to make this real easy for you and your audience. I'm going to make this real easy for you and your audience, right? Thank you for making it easy for me especially, Dan. Oh, absolutely. Now, that's what I'm here for.

You know, blurry creatures for dummies. Next book. It's coming. Aren't you glad we ducked and dodged a conversation on past lives? I always tease. I always tease the next episode in the episode. Nate's always trying to take us on a hard right turn out of where we're trying to go. I'm like Seinfeld, I have a little Superman somewhere in the episode. No, it's like that meme of the car like, like, that's like skitting out towards the exit.

And it's like, stay on path through the episode. And then it's like, Nate take us in a completely different direction. And the car's like trying to. Hey, anyway, there's a lot of ADD listeners. They appreciate that. I'm where an Aid is. All right. So I'm going to make this real easy for your audience.

So in Psalm 148, God gives us a vantage point on the sentience of the creation. And just how many different categories of, right, consciousness and sentience there is throughout the creation. Okay. So consciousness means I am, I feel I exist. Sentience is like a self-awareness of, you know, how I feel about a certain thing or whatever. It's ability to have emotion. And it takes all of that to be able to praise God,

to be able to engage God in praise and worship. So Psalm 148 is all about praise. All about praising God. And here's what it says. It says, praise him, praise the Lord, praise the Lord from the heavens, praise him in the height, praise him all his angels.

So there's your angels, right? Boom, there's angels. Consciousness, sentience of the angelic realm, one liner. But then it follows it up. Praise him, all his hosts. Oh, interesting. So God has angels and hosts. Okay. Easy. Moving on. Praise him, sun and moon. Now what we begin to understand is, sun has consciousness, moon has consciousness. They're actually living entities in the order of how God created things. Now, we might not experience that in our day-to-day lives.

Oh, the sun is just what shines and gives us light because I'm walking around. Yeah, we'll ask every ancient religion that worships the sun. Okay. Like, it's just not that simple. Same thing with the moon. And so, but what did God create these heavenly bodies to do? Praise him, right? All of creation in its first estate gives glory to God. So in the defiled state, it can be used for other things like witchcraft. But it goes on and says, praise him all you stars of light. Now, what I told you earlier was that the sun, moon, and stars are heavenly elementals. Boom. So you have elemental spirits that are literally being distinguished from angels or fallen angels for that fact, because whether it's fallen or not, an angel began as a spirit created by God. And so you have the elemental kingdom in the heavens being acknowledged as having a first estate to praise God, sun, moon, and stars.

And I tell you, they do have consciousness. And so it's just, it's a break from traditional, I would say, conservative Christian theology, but it doesn't mean that's not what the Bible is saying in plain English. Now, you move through the passage and it goes on. It says, let praise him you, heavens of heavens and you waters above the heaven. So now we're supposed to understand that water can praise the Lord, this specific elemental kingdom of water above the heavens, heavenly waters, praise the Lord. Hmm, it's just literal. Like this is not, this is not a metaphor. Moving on, Passive says in verse five, let them praise the name of the Lord, for he commanded and they were created. He also established them forever and ever he made a decree which shall not pass away. Verse seven.

Praise the Lord from the earth. Boom. So we have water. We have earth. We have water. We have earth. You great sea creatures, all the depths. And then you have like the waters beneath the waters. You have the depths of the earth, the deep, the abyss, all of this. Fire and hail, snow and clouds, stormy wind, fulfilling his word, mountains and all hills, fruitful trees, tree kingdom, and all cedars, beasts and cattle creeping things and flying fow, kings of the earth and all people's princes and all the judges of the earth, both young men and maidens, old men, and children. Let them praise the name of the Lord. I love Psalm 148, because, what it does is it makes everybody just stop with all their accusations, sit down and really think for a minute.

Yeah. I don't know where the line is. I don't know where people deviate, but people are really afraid of a lot of things in their Bibles, but keep going. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm just qualifying what I'm saying about the elemental kingdom. So I'm saying there are fallen angels. There are angels. But there are elemental spirits. And there are consciousness associated with the elemental kingdoms, earth, fire, air, water, stun moon, stars. Like this is this, this, this, this. And so when we really begin to understand the spirit world with... Is that like a job? Like, you know, we talk a lot about the watchers had a job left their posts and came down and mess with us. Are they sort of like, do they, is it more like a role, a task? This is what you're supposed to do?

You're supposed to take care of the water kind of thing? I believe so in certain areas. And then I think that's exactly what you run into even now because you will have principalities, you can call them that ruler's territorial spirits. There'll be spirits tasked with responsibilities over a region, a lake. a stream, a town, an area of a city, like, and they sit over that, whether for God or for the kingdom of darkness, and they have an authority to be there, and they govern it, like, the area. It's like a territorial spirit, really, but just its territory is in, it happens to be fire

or water or, I mean, the Prince of the Air, right? That's one of the things the Bible talks about as well. And here's the thing, right? So when we come back to the whole thing, it's just like, well, how complicated. it is the spirit world. Well, how complicated is quantum physics? How complicated is God? Is God like, you know, Homer Simpson or you think he's like literally the creator of the universe? I mean, it says like, God is infinitely complex and so is his creation. It is fantastically complex. I mean, think about that. Like you talk about quantums or even talk about atomic stuff, right,

that you keep splitting and you keep finding. And they keep finding, it's like you can't, there isn't an end to, right? I mean, that's what's wild. I think we, I think, I think, I think this is the, if anything that's impressed upon me, some of the stand is just that we, we want to be so comfortable in our, in our understanding, and or even in some of our theological thinkings that, because frankly, when you look at the vastness of, of creation and sort of,

in some of the things that you deal in and walk in, and the stories that are told to you, and the things that you, you traffic in because of the people that have been abused and, and broken, it becomes very, can become vastly, vastly, again, uncomfortable. because it's much easier to frankly, right, to have this conversation and then be like, man, I just don't, I'm throwing it all out because it's so very much breaking a paradigms and uncomfortable that this, I much prefer to think about things in binary terms and ones and zeros and making the spiritual realm feel that way or making even creation feel that way, right? And I, that's why I think these conversations are so important.

Just to, at the very least, to think about, to expand your paradigm and your thought process about, where we live and our sort of life itself in the operational. And then our interaction with the supernatural, if you're a Christian, you believe in a very supernatural reality. But I think sometimes we don't want to address that, right? Because it's much easier to talk about things in platitudes. And, you know, Christ rose from the dead.

And he was immaculately conceived. And those things have become so common. And yet at their essence are so miraculously uncommon, right? I mean that's a little bit of a diatri but I just I the vast diversity of creation and I and I think that we completely you know are hamstrung if we don't apply that same paradigm to to to the kingdom of heaven or the heavenlies right that we don't though and I think Christendom does not and and not to not to to bang this drum or to to bash it but I think it's just become this thinking that we have very medieval thinking that things are just very black and white. But if there's millions of species,

and if you want to just blow your mind, Google how many insects live on the earth? It's something crazy on the measure of more than a billion per person, right? And you go, this is the vastness of creation. It seems like that, as you say, an infinite created, an infinitely, you know, complex, uncreated God. To think that he just did sort of like, you know, I made two things in heaven. is really an odd position to take in light of, I think. Well, the Bible's

an encyclopedias and we don't get out every single thing that exists. Right, right, right. But I'm just saying, I like this thought process because I think it's, it's mind expanding

to start to think about. And for you, you operate in this space, but I think it's for a lot of people to sort of open your mind to the idea that maybe the supernatural or the spiritual realm,

whatever you want to sort of that realm, whatever you want to, you can categorize with quantums or kingdoms or heavens, whatever you want to call that place with that vernacular. It's probably much, much, much more fantastic than, then I think that we've allowed ourselves to believe. Well, this week, our guest, Ali Seadotton,

was talking about how everything on earth echoes heaven. So everything we do here, everything we have here echoes of this heavenly realm. And his whole take was it's a physical realm. It's a place. It's a place you can go to. These things come show up in our realm, and they take physical form. There is, you know what I mean?

It's a mirror. We are mirroring the heaven on earth as it is in heaven, right? And we all think that everything in heaven is just this fluffy spirit floating Gnostic reality. There's no physicality to any of it. It's sort of this magical kingdom where magic happens. And that's not actually true, right? It's like, it's Disneyland. Here's the thing, right?

What I'm doing is I'm, I am opening up a permission. slip, essentially giving people permission to understand their experiences in a biblical context and know that they're not just crazy. Because there are plenty of people listening to this program that, I promise you, they've had encounters with elemental spirits. They have encounters with fire spirits, water spirits, earth spirits. I'm talking like dwarves and gnomes. But people really have had encounters with these things, right?

Well, fairies. We just had a guy on who's a practicing druid who talks about his encounters with fairies. Ferry spirits? 100%. And what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is some of the stuff in this realm is absolutely like wicked, right? And I don't come on here and say, let's start doing seances and try to encounter fairy spirits. Like that's not what I am saying as.

a pastor. But what I am saying is, my experience is that with the elemental kingdom as a general thing, earth, fire, air, water, and how these kingdoms are interacting with man, the spirits that make them up are more of a scatter plot. Some of them are wanting to serve God, legitimately praise the Lord that we praise. Some of them are serving evil, these spirits, Some of them are kind of like caught between. Some of them are pro-humankind. Some of them are antagonistic towards human-kind. Like there's a vast diversity of activity that's going on in the elemental spirit world.

And this is a whole conversation that has been completely ignored and not even considered by the body of Christ. Like we just want to call everything a demon. And then hijacked by, you know, this is what people will have a knee-jerk reaction, hijacked by the new age and by the occult, right? So then any time you speak about this, it's just like, that's new age. Or it's the other way where it's like, well, I wanted to be a Christian, but I couldn't find any validation in that religion. So I went new age because at least they understand me.

So you actually have both. Right. What I'm here to tell people is, look, God is not surprised by your experience, friend. Like, whatever it is, like, it didn't surprise God. And even if you haven't encountered somebody that represents Jesus who can help you understand it, it doesn't mean that he can't help you understand it or that there isn't a context for it, which also acknowledges the supremacy of Jesus Christ as Redeemer of mankind, the earth, and the Savior of our souls. So with that said, though, right, returning to the under, I wanted to say this,

because this is going to also ping some of the people that are listening to this program. because I know that there are people that have had these experiences, right? One of the craziest things that we have run into with the underwater spirit kingdom is that, and I don't know the reason why yet, I haven't fully understood this. I just have a whole stack of reports about it. There are underwater constellations. Like, I know, I know. What does that even mean?

What does that even mean? Right. There are underwater constellations. And I have had to, just like, just like we've had to help people get delivered of, you know, the Ares constellation or the Gemini constellation. How do people get in bondage to the Gemini constellation? Easy. You or your ancestors did rituals and spiritual practices of the occult nature to those constellations or involving those constellations, you know, worshipping the stars. And then I put an iniquity in your bloodline. And now there's a,

there's a consequence for that and it needs to be undone. And so we get people delivered of these constellations all the time. I have a prayer for it. on my website, it's free, and birds of shake heaven and earth, anyway. But just like that, I've had these situations where I've had to get people delivered of underwater constellations, as strangely enough as it is.

And this has actually put me in a whole other bucket where it's like, what is the deep? What, you know, the Bible says, the knowledge of the glory of the Lord shall cover the earth as the waters cover the sea. Like, there is a sea under the waters. It is a realm of activity. There's a whole lot going on there.

One of the things that was also described to me more recently is that some of these entities, like these really big dog entities, like they have craft and they will drive their craft around the deep, deep areas of the earth, like under the waters. And if you are high ranking enough to find yourself in one of those realms for whatever reason, whether you are astral traffic there or you step through a portal, you take a form like a Murpholk and you can go down there, whatever, you will see that these big boys, you know, mammon and all the deep. But some of them have like whole craft that are almost like experienced as physical,

but they're down there deep in the earth. And there will be helpers that are on the board those helping to like, you know, make them operate. Very, very interesting. There's a lot of stuff that goes on deep, deep, deep under the waters of the earth that is highly spiritual, highly significant to what the kingdom of darkness is working into the surface world if possible. Wow.

Yeah. You say a lot of wild things, Dan, we hear it. That's pretty wild. Yeah, everything is a episode. You know,

I don't doubt that we know less about bottom of the ocean, the bottom of the sea than we do about the surface of the moon. Well, that's the same with our government, right? We know we have a surface government, but we know we have a huge,

unelected, underground government. I mean, almost every other person comes on our show talks about, these things. Talks about the dums, you know, this underground sort of empire that they've created. And some people go down there and see all kinds of weird creatures that. Some guys go through portals in their pantry.

Well, let me give you your audience another piece. Okay, so we're still on Murpholk. Yeah, we are. Roughly. I'm trying to. Try and trying to. Thank you, Dan. You're a professional.

You are. So I read this book. I read this book. And interestingly, to get this book when I got it. It took me several years, and I had to finally get it on an interlibrary loan from like another state. It was so rare.

You couldn't find it. It couldn't buy it. And it was called Snatched from Satan's Clause. It was written by an African witch doctor turned Christian. You know, so when I finally got the book, I photocopied it so I could return it and then have the record of the book on my device because it was fascinating. I mean, what the guy claims was just off the charts. And then it turns out someone finally got the rights to it and published it.

So now you actually, today you can buy it on Amazon.com, snatched from Satan's Clause. But this witch doctor turned Christian makes some claims. Now, do I think I don't necessarily find that every report I have heard agrees with every claim he makes in the book from beginning to end, like about how the Kingdom of Darkness works per se. But, you know, everyone has their own perspective. And I think a lot of what he has to say is just not only accurate, but at the same time, revolutionary. It changes the way you think about things. And one of the things that he suggests, right, is that he comes from a long line of witch doctors. And so not only was he a witch doctor, but his dad, his granddad, great granddaddy, great, great granddaddy.

Like he says he's an eighth generation. Wow. Witch doctor. So in order to prepare the womb for his birth, his mom. had to have like 13 miscarriages and then he was allowed to be born. So the womb had to be completely defiled with death and murder and because it wasn't all, I don't think well. But anyway, he, you know, he says, you know, this is what he comes through.

His dad, his dad had all these powers and abilities that were completely supernatural. And one of the things that he says in the book is once he was finally born, his dad would go to the sea and there would be a mermaid that would come. to the shore and the dad would get the mermaid and carry the mermaid to the house. And he as a baby had to breastfeed from the mermaid. That's his claim. Wow. Interestingly enough, though, the entire bloodline seems to descend from an underwater spirit kingdom community because he talks about the ancestor. This is what he's told. This eighth generation back grandparent is a hunter and a warrior. And so he meets this being from under the water.

It's a woman, but she's kind of covered in scales. And she has magical powers. And so he takes her as a wife, has sex with her, and she has the son. And that's the first in the line of the witch doctor line. And it's like, but she actually gave birth to that first witch doctor in the bloodline. And then he said, you know, she would actually go into the sea for, for, for, months or years. Just like Aquaman's mom in from the movie Aquaman, like literally. Like she would go back to the sea, be in the underwater kingdom. And then she'd come back

to the surface world and she'd, you know, give these prophecies and tell people psychic stuff or whatever. And she'd go back in. But that's like the, like the prejudice. So the bloodline is not fully human. And it's a witch doctor bloodline. And it's like that that is my bloodline. That's not what he's saying. But he's like, you know, Jesus stepped in and saved me. And the reason why I believe it is because I believe that this is the case with most, most bloodlines that are defiled, like for the high, like the global elites, the kings of the earth. Like, oh, you know, these bloodlines are highly defiled, any kind of Illuminati bloodlines. And this is how I back up my belief. I'm like, well, just look at the family crests.

Like, how many of these family crests do not include some kind of dragon, like, or line or creature of some sort? I almost feel like that's like the portrait of like great, great, great, granddaddy. Like, we all come from the great red dragon bloodline or this like there. But that's why they have the powers that they do to rule over mankind and the agreements and covenants. So it's interesting. Just another piece. Like there are seemingly certain witch doctor bloodlines at the very least. And I think there's others around the earth that do have almost like ancestry and genetic contributions from populations under the water.

and it's a defilement and it's an iniquity in the bloodline that needs to be resolved. It actually needs to be put under the blood of Jesus as people are breaking those generational bondages and cycles. Man, do you think some of these things are related sort of the original Genesis 6 rebellion where they... Totally. I think, you know what I think. I mean, and there's various opinions on this, right?

Some people say there was just a one incursion in Genesis 6. I think you have to be an ostrich with your head in the sand to believe that there was only one incursion of supernatural entities moving into human bloodlines. I cannot buy it. But the Bible says that it happened then and also afterwards. There were Nephilim on the earth and also afterwards when the sons of God came into the daughters of men. So I think, I think that it's just sets up a pattern and a perspective like this is possible. Beings that are not human in origin can intercept human bloodlines. And the way that they intercept human bloodlines is going to be different.

And I think that we live in an age where we're more like the Daniel chapter two version of this, where it's like, you know, they will mingle their seed with the seed of men. I think that they've moved beyond just like actual marriage only or not marriage, just sexual acts producing a natural hybrid type of person. They're engineering them in labs, off planet, deep underground, underwater, in the other dimensions, and they're putting in people that have modified genetics within intent. They want to be very specific traits with a being that still looks very human and is human. I mean, by definition, has a human spirit, has a human soul, but it has all of this other.

And this is where deliverance ministry has moved. This is one of the reasons, guys, why I kind of marvel at certain deliverance ministries because they're like, oh, we're just going to cast out the demons. It's like, do you understand the population of people you are ministering into at this season of history? Like, it's not just demons that are causing people a problem. There are the complexity of what the Kingdom of Darkness has been engineering as we move towards their new world order is vast. And if there's not a certain level of awareness, you're only going to hit a wall at a certain point. And that's where, like, we get slammed anymore.

People are coming to us from all over the world. Like we tried this ministry, we tried that ministry, and we just hit a wall. There's a reason why. This is more complicated. Yeah, it's like we have sort of a Model T theology and this old school understanding of everything. And everything is just a demon that's bad. And we get it a lot. People chirp in the comments section all the time at us because we will just address the alien topic.

Okay, a government's talking about aliens now. Aliens are we can't even accept the reality that there could be. these things flying around or these little green men or these Nordics or these reptilians and all the things that you you probably have people coming in and when you immerse yourself in that paradigm and people are saying, I'm not a just experiencing attack from the grays. I got all this other crazy stuff that's showing up. What do you do? Do you throw them out? Oh, you're nuts, man. You've been watching too many marble movies. Get out of the office. They're describing races of weird. I want to use an expletive, but, you know?

They're talking about races, and that's what we do on the show. It's like there are many lines of blurry creatures, and sometimes multiple versions of just one blurry creature. They extend it. I think you're right. I think the church has to start addressing some of this stuff, or it's going to fall behind. And, you know, we've got, you know, we're driving around this rickety old car.

It's falling apart, and you have people leaving to the new age because they see the UFO phenomenon. They see the alien phenomenon. And they see the power that they can harness, not the power of God, but they can get some benefit. And I think we're still sort of shooting ourselves in the foot. And just to that point, you know, because I have a heart for people. The whole reason why I ended up so weird is because I just wanted to help you. Like, that's the whole thing.

My whole thing, I just want to help people. It's like, you have a problem. You're in bondage. You're miserable. Everything in your life is going upside. I want to help you. And then the God's like, well, this is what it's going to take. And so then I end up here and I'm like, you know, totally strange.

But I was listening to a podcast on Super Soldier Talks one day. And so they have a lot of interesting people on that podcast as well. And this woman came on there. And, you know, she was telling her story about all this. I mean, she really with the secret space program and the entities and all. I mean, she did all this stuff. And it was like, wow, what a story. And she's like, yeah, you know, I really, I really tried.

the whole Christian thing. I went to this church and they did deliverance on me for hours once a week, every week for like years and years. And I just found it to be highly toxic and ineffective. And so I decided to switch. And now I'm working with the shaman. I find it much healthier and more beneficial and emotionally stable. And I was like, and that's what I'm talking about.

See, because so much ministry, I think happens in that in that box of ignorance, people are being hurt that Jesus loves. and I'm just out here trying to do my best to be God's response to allow for that actual Jesus-powered Holy Spirit ministry to go forth outside of the box of what people are allowed to believe or what, you know, where religion has cut us off and be redemptive because some of this nonsense is it hurts. It hurts to hear it. It hurts to hear someone say, I went from a Christian church to a shone.

because that was so toxic. And I know she's not lying. I mean, you know, I'm listening to person talking. I'm like, yeah, I've seen that church before. I'm not like the church she was at, but I was like, I've seen that opinion, that disposition, that arrogance. Like, we call everything a demon, therefore we know exactly what we're talking about and you just need to fall in line.

Like, that whole thing is just to me, unfortunate. Yeah, I mean, I grew up in a small Christian school and I think most of the people who graduated have kind of walked away from their faith because they sort of reduced Christianity to like wearing proper clothes and following the rules, you know, and then you get a certain age and you walk away from it. You know, and a lot of people get mad because I know a lot of people who are Christians are still getting abducted on a nightly basis. And there's a lot of Christians who are like, how dare you come on, have people come on your show and say that Jesus can't magic, you just say the name of Jesus and all this stuff stops. And I'm like, well, how do you tell people who are actively

Christians who have channels like ours, who are promoting all this stuff, who are still getting abducted? nightly basis. Are you saying they're not a Christian? Are you saying they don't have a relationship with Christ? It's not Harry Potter theology. You can't just say the word and everything's, poof, is done. It's complicated. And so people get mad at us because, you know, there's some people on our show that come on and say that it's not easy. It's not, you don't just say the name of Jesus. All of a sudden you stop getting abducted and that rattles a lot of cages because I'm not saying that never happens. Some people do do that and it does stop, but not everybody. It's not a, it's not a one size fits all in the sense.

It doesn't mean that I don't believe Jesus has the power to vanquish all this stuff. You see what I'm saying? But I think that what you're saying is that people who do pray, and it doesn't work for them, they're super disheartened and they walk away. And they try other stuff because, well, Christianity didn't work. It didn't stop the devil. So I'm going to go over here. Maybe this thing will.

But anyway, a little bit of rant. Yeah, exactly. And what I found, the answer is typically in the realm of what I don't understand yet. that's where God just opens up a whole other book. It's like, oh, Daniel, in order to help these people, you're going to have to understand the elemental kingdom. Oh, Daniel, in order to help these people, you're going to have to understand the secret space program.

Oh, Daniel, in order to help these people, you're going to have to understand the Nephilim and the hollow earth corporations. You're going to have to under, like, it just goes on and on and on. You're just dropping episodes. You're just dropping episodes. Boom, boom. But this is beauty. Can I tell you what the beauty is?

The beauty is at the end of all of this. bride ministries, we have trained dozens of people to minister into the realms of inner healing and deliverance that are having testimonies and an impact on lives all over the world. People are being set free of the most extraordinary things and giving glory to Jesus Christ. And learning that there is truly nothing in creation that is not under the authority of Jesus or that Jesus does not have the power to resolve once certain things are understood, certain what I would call legalities are addressed. And there is a place of power and victory in Jesus that becomes just an identity piece.

Part of getting people to that is why I wrote the book, Pummel the Devil. Yeah. That's like, I was going to say, no, I was going to say this is a good segue because he did just to write a book about this. And I think it's, I think what you said is so important that there's nothing not underneath or not underneath his feet. he doesn't have dominion over. And I think sometimes on our show,

and I'm sure with you as well, you get into all these crazy things and the darkness seems so dark. And I love that you just, we need to, I love that you just brought it back because I think it's important to bring it back and remind people that as dark as it gets, none of this isn't under his feet.

It doesn't, doesn't have to bend the knee to the King of Kings. And that reality is just such a great reminder. for what team we play for, right? It is Jesus Christ and our God is above all. And I think you made an really interesting point. And if you missed it when you were listening, Dan, you said the legalities. And I think this is one thing that we've kind of hammered home on our show with a few, with a few folks, including, you know, some folks like a, we had a Catholic priest on who was an exorcist, right? But you realize with all of this that the spiritual realm, the supernatural world

works in a very legalistic way. And all you do is open up your Bible and read the book of Job or read, you know, read a number of instances where things fall into legalities. And it operates in very much the legal system, often a courtroom. You have a courtroom courtroom scenes in the Bible, a lot of places if you look for them. And that reminder that there's legality to this realm and to this operation that needs to be, you know, and I think we've talked on the macro level about this. but I think that's an important reminder that there are a lot of rules in that space

and everyone needs to follow the rules. It's why Satan has to ask to Sip Chob, which is why, and that's just the first example that comes to my mind, right? That there has to be permissions. And the same way that we give permissions willingly,

you know, people in the occult willingly to these entities to enter and do things as well. Well, I was thinking when you were talking about the elementals, I think one of the things growing up in the church, I always wondered, why does, why does, God have to send a son into our world.

Why does he have to become a human? Why does he have to become physical? Why? If God is all, why can't he just rescue humanity from where he is? Why does Jesus have to become flesh and bone? You know, of become a son of man, you know? I mean, this whole, this whole physicality, taking on the form of man, becoming one of us,

and then reclaiming us and legalities. There's a lot of those questions you can't answer when you're growing up. up in the church because you just don't understand. We're very, we don't have a lot of information to make sense of this complicated story. Can I speak to that one? Yes. I don't know. I think that that is so, such a powerful question because the answer is extraordinary. And I do, I love to answer that question. And of course, you know, your audience can chew on this one, but this is how I look at it. You know, in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth, but there was rebellion.

The heavens were defiled. Satan was thrown out. There was a whole coup against God, this whole massive backstory. And so sin is not just a piece of the human experience. Like sin and iniquity runs through the heavens. You think these are alien grays and reptilians aren't sinning and doing it? They are definitely in defilement wherever they are. Like the whole heavens is in a fallen state as is the earth.

And so what happens is you have this situation where Satan is actually cast to the earth. And that makes earth the centerpiece of God's solution set. Like God is going to solution out of the earth a complete repair to the whole creation. And so he puts Adam in the garden, right? as man, first Adam, king priest, and God's solution is we're going to have a bloodline king priesthood. And it is going to have dominion over the earth, it's going to fill the earth, subdue it. And there is going to be a correction on the fall that predates the fall of man. But Adam fails.

God knows and plans around that in advance. Jesus is the lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Here's what happens when God creates Adam, though. He creates them from the dust of the earth. And because God created Adam from the dust of the earth and gave him the neshima of God, the breath. Like he's both a heavenly and an earthly being. He unites heaven and earth. So as a king priest, Adam is also a gate between heaven and earth and an agent of redemption for heaven and earth.

And that, God set that up on purpose because Jesus is the last Adam, a king priest designed to be a gate of reconciliation between heaven and earth. because when God created the heavens and the earth, you know, he did it in such a way that he bounded the destiny of the heavens to the earth. It says, Berishi, Barah, Elohim, Shemaymi Am, Arretz. In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. And between those words, you have two Aleftavs. That's Jesus Christ, the Alpha and the Omega. Berishi, Barat, Elohim, Aeftov, Shemayimayem, Alevtav Arretz. And the second one has a Vav on it. And that's because that means nail. And so what you essentially have is God, through Jesus created the heavens and through Jesus nailed the heavens to the created earth. And so God bound the destiny of the heavens to the earth so that

through a king priestie in the earth, God could redeem not just the earth, but the whole heavens. Adam sinned God redeemed. Jesus Christ comes as the last Adam. And this is why Colossians one says, through the blood of the cross, God reconciles all things, whether in heaven or on earth. So the, so the reason why Jesus had to come as a man was to fix everything and to bring creation back to a first estate and to correct for all rebellion everywhere in him. Wow, that's the mic drop. That's how you pummel the devil right there, right? That's how you pummel the devil, man. That is how you bubble the devil. Dan, it's so good to have you back, man, and to see you. No, it is. It is. It's just I love these discussions. I love chatting about these things.

because we talk about fantastical things. We talk about murphoke today. And these things that are often relegated to the realms of mythos, I think it's always fascinating to have a perspective on this, whether it be giants or the chimerical creatures and those kind of things or even mermaids and merman. Murman, man. Or even why ancients are worshipping the sun.

There's a reason why they're doing these things, you know? And you hear about this growing up and you hear about these sort of, pagan nations doing these things but you think it's just man are they just crazy are they just smoking something but you don't really have a galate a reason for why historically people have done the strange things that they have and it's i think you kind of encompass that you know there's a whole story and there's there's so many you know dots being connected that this is why they were doing it you know things like that yeah it's always it's always just so that so just very very very interesting to to have these discussions and i want to do at the end

as we wrap up, I wanted to give you a chance to talk about your new book. You've plugged it twice, but tell us about the new book, because we've talked before, and you've got a number of books. As part of your ministry is providing resources and assets for people to get themselves set free from the entanglement of the darkness. And you've got a new book. Yes. So, yeah, yeah. The last three books I've written, they're basically the prayers that shake heaven in Earth series. Prayers to shake heaven and earth, advanced. Prayers that shake heaven. heaven and earth, extreme prayers that shake heaven and earth. And those books are largely rare templates. Some of them are more general. And then we have whole sections of very powerful

deliverance resources to get free from really big things. One of the problems, though, with those books is, I mean, they're tools. They're not explanations. And so I have people that will pick up my book, say extreme prayers that shake heaven and earth. And they'll be reading a prayer for freedom from evil grids. What is a grid? So I have a little blurb at the beginning. And I was like, this is what the grid is. And this is the language you use.

And you kind of just plug these terms in. We have tables and all that. So it's almost self-service. And a person is reading it. But they don't even believe in their belief system that the will of God is not being done when they are being assaulted, raped, and hurt. there are fundamental schisms in the foundation of people that are picking up my prayer books. They think that God actually does not like them or that God is really determined to punish them

and make their lives as miserable as possible because, you know, he's trying to teach him some cosmic lesson on humility. And, you know, so people go in, they have all kinds of issues with God. They don't understand the character of God. Then they're picking up these prayer resources that, you know, it's like they're reading from the bottom of a mountain, what was written from the top of the top of the world. the mountain. And it's like, well, where's the path between the revelation that some of these prayers are being birthed out of, the relationship with God that these prayers are being birthed out of,

and like where I'm standing, the ground I'm standing on. And so what I find is I've talked to a lot of people is a lot of people don't really understand why they have the ability to stand against the kingdom of darkness, to engage in a prayer life that will actually change things. Some people think prayer doesn't even change things. Some people think that you pray to feel better, or it may we get the joy of the Lord, but like God's will is just being done when, you know, Hamas is bombing the Gaza Strip. It's like, well, that must have been God's will. It's like, you know, so, so this book is written to really bring a lot of revelation to

foundation so that people can become effective. So many, I tip a lot of sacred cows in this book that stand in the way of, a victorious and, you know, a sonship mentality. Like, I have confidence to engage. my prayer life, my worship, and the spirit world at large with the power of God because I know the ground I'm standing on. I know why heaven backs me. I know why God put me here to give the devil a black guy. And I know why the promises of God are at work in my life. Like there's so many things that have to be ironed out, including questions about suffering and why it happens, weapons of warfare,

what those even are, the nature of the kingdom of darkness. And, you know, I do spend some time discussing how it's more complex than we were told. And so this book is really, I think, serving as a foundation to empower people into a whole other perspective and engagement. Dude, I love it. It's awesome, man. You know, I think from Lucanized perspective, I mean, if this was one of our first episodes, I think we would just walk away with our head scratching. It's cool that over the years, we've learned so much, you know, like, we can follow this conversation. You know, like, we don't understand a lot of what you talk about, but we understand sort of the framework in which all this stuff operates.

And I think you have to sort of do a podcast like this, just to even follow along. And hopefully some of our listeners can do that too. And I know that people listen to your podcast, obviously, it's 150 miles an hour as well. So you kind of have to jump in. So get in the phone booth. You have to jump in. But for people who are just, I mean, if you've made it this far, congratulations. Because I think, you know, if you don't have that perspective, obviously it's just so jolting.

you'll be like, I don't know, what? But, you know, we've been on this, this blurry ride for a while. Thank you for hopping in, you know, your episodes are up there in our top 10 all the time. And people love what you do or like, they love and hate it, right? You know, they love you, they hate you. It's just part of the, it's part of trudging through. Pioneers, Trailblazers, people like, you got, someone's got to go through the woods and the weeds first. And then everyone else kind of slowly follows along.

You need people like you to push these things forward because it's, it's strange, it's weird, and it's dark, and we can't be afraid to help people. And I think that's what you bring to this table. And in a small way, Luke and I kind of do that, just trying to educate people on the weird stuff out there from a Christian perspective. And, you know, most of the time we leave these episodes with more questions. And I'm sure a lot people have that today. So head over to Dan's podcast. Dan, drop your podcast so people can go. and check out you if they want to know more.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, just two simple addresses. The ministry is at bridemovement.com. The podcast is at dandavall.com. And everything else can basically be navigated from those two landing pads. So bridemoving. Let's go. Danvall.com.

Well, maybe Dan will be doing this on stage here. Yeah, send me an email. Let me know. Oh, we will. As soon as we have details, you'll have details. you'll have details. That's just, that's the cart and the horse, right? So, uh, yeah, thanks, man. It's good to see you, Dan. It's really good to see. It's cool like, because then we'd have people that come and go visit, you know, we've heard through, as you said, through the back channels,

folks that listen to the show have gone and found you and come and gone and gone through the coaching and found themselves, you know, set free. So I think the most powerful, as always, the most powerful testimonies are our people's stories, right? You can't, you can argue with redemption and changed lives like that there is something real and interacts that happens when people you know are healed are are saved and in your business they're delivered and so just great for the work you're doing man you're out there you're out there giving the devil black eye and as you say that's that's that's all of our roles so speaking of rolling we're going to roll that time cop and get out of here but uh thank you dan it's good to see you brother yeah man yeah man all right thanks bro yeah yeah

Good to see you, man. All right, Dan. See you, Dan. All right, Dan.