Blurry Creatures - EP: 219 Throne of Satan with Ali Siadatan

Episode Date: February 7, 2024

Tune in as we delve into the chilling discovery of the Throne of Satan in the ancient city of Pergamum. Joining us as our special guest is Ali Siadatan, a renowned researcher and expert in esoteric history. Together, we'll unravel the enigmatic secrets surrounding this ominous artifact, exploring its significance in mythology, religion, and the occult. Don't miss this intriguing discussion as we uncover the mysteries of the past and their implications for the present day. Listen now for an unforgettable journey into the depths of ancient intrigue. Support the show! www.blurrycreatures.com/members Intro Song: The Strike Socials instagram.com/blurrycreatures facebook.com/blurrycreatures twitter.com/blurrycreatures Music Kyle Monroe: tinytaperoom.com Aaron Green: https://www.instagram.com/aaronkgreen/ Outro Song: TimeCop1983: timecop1983.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Where is the throne of Satan? He said, it's in the city of Pergamum. I said, okay, and how do you know that? He said where it says right here. And he showed me Revelation chapter 2, one of the letters that the wrote that the Lord him, himself, you know, sent an angel. He didn't write it as a king. He but he spoke it or telepathically conveyed it to an angel who came to earth and gave it to John. To the angel of Messiah's community in Pergammon, right, thus says the one who has the sharp two-edged sword. I know where you live,

where Satan's throne is. The history of our earth is so different from what we can imagine. Joy to join. The Smithsonian, and if they found out about a large skeleton somewhere, was to go get it. I'm going to assume at least one person is right, because if one person's right to bust the paradigm, it all goes back to the fallen chair. And the problem with the modern day church, they have a very truncated view of the supernatural. This backdrop that's just pregnant with all kinds of meaning associated with this Mount Herman event. And this guy did.

effects from the kingdom. That's a big deal. Welcome back to Blair Creatures. We have Ali Seattleton back on the show today. We're excited. Ali pretty much takes us all the way through history and shows us where he thinks the throne of Satan is. It's a wild episode. Kind of ties in geography and it's a little late today because we just got back from Costa Rica. We had a great time down in Costa Rica. 150 of you guys came down there and we had a conference with Tim Albarito and Joel Matamale on the beach talking about cosmic geography to alien abductions. It was wild three days. Can't say thank you enough.

We even had our first blurry baptism as a listener was there and was overwhelmed by what he was hearing. And it was cool to see God move. Had an awesome time. Thank you so much to everyone who has shared this podcast around. Like Luke and I have said, you know, according to Spotify, that's how people find out about our show is text messages. So thank you for sharing this with friends, the episodes that mean so much to you.

We were blown away this week at how many stories we've heard from you guys and how many people traveled around the world to hang out with us and some of our favorite guests to get blurry. If you want to support the show, blurrycreatures.com slash members, become a member of the podcast and help us produce this show. We do it all day, every day. And without your help, it doesn't have. happen. So let's get Ali Seauditin on this one and hope you enjoy it. Yeah, welcome back to the podcast. Welcome

back to Blurray Creatures, Ali Seatotan from Think Again Productions. We did our first episode with you on episode 199. So those are you guys listening out there if you haven't listened to that episode. Go back. Check it out. It was a really good conversation and we enjoyed it so much, Ali. We decided we wanted you to have you back as soon as possible. And here you are back again. Today we're going to talk about the throne of Satan. The first show was phenomenal. If you haven't listened, Ali will talk about this as a tree and being roots and trunk, and there's a connectedness between his story and then as we build this. So it would encourage you to go listen to that first.

But that episode actually was one of our fastest and most downloaded episodes of 2023. You know, your testimony, and I'm not going to spoil it because we're only a few months away out of it. So it's not like the sixth sense. And we're telling you like, hey, listen, Bruce Wilson is dead. And you've had 20, 30 years to watch that. you've had a few months here we're not going to spoil what happens but it's an amazing testimony um

you had an unbelievable encounter in iran yeah and then you also or you are a forerunner you were so far ahead of a lot of folks in the space as you were released in documentaries and i believe it's 2006 and correct me if that's not if that's uh if that's wrong but that you were you were making docs about UFOs and angels and in the connectedness of understanding uh this phenomena through a biblical paradigm biblical perspective. And this is, I mean, you know, almost 20 years ago, you know, 18 years ago. And this has become a hot topic. Twenty-twenty-three was wild. I mean, 2024 has already been wild. There's a jellyfish UFO. Something happened in Miami. No one knows what happened. But 2023, we had House Oversight Committee, you know, on UAPs. We had whistleblowers

and we had face pealers in Peru. We had all this crazy stuff going on. And you were, you've been knocking on this door and you were beating this door down long before the rest of the started sort of tuning in specifically because you can't not in these days. So we're glad to have you back. Love your work. If you haven't seen the documentary, check it out at Ali's website. And today, as Nate said, we've got a special show part. You're Canadian.

So it's like part due, right? Slapshot part due. This is blurry and Ali part due. And it's great to have you back on the show. It's the jean jacket to the Canadian tuxedo. That's right. That's right. Yes.

Yes. So it's so good to be here with you guys. I really enjoyed the show last time, and you're both so easy going and lovely to talk to. The website is Think Again, Production.com, and people can watch. And if you double-click on the YouTube page, it'll take you to double-click on the documentary that's on the home page. It'll take you to my YouTube page. The idea, I think, is that the Lord is going ahead of us because he knows the plans of the enemy, and he's anointing people to start talking, writing about this so that, you know, the awareness can spread.

You know, when you look at the story of the Psalm 23, the idea that God is a shepherd, in the Judean desert, it wasn't like the rolling hills of Ireland. The blades of grass were far and few in between. They grew around stones and rocks where the water and moisture would gather, and so the shepherd would go ahead of the sheep, locate where the next area with these blades of grass is, and then lead the sheep there. So I think in our lives and in our history, you know, the Lord walks ahead of us, And he's like, okay, I got to prepare you guys for what's coming.

And so I think the Lord, you know, I took hold of my life when I had that UFO sighting in Iran, in the deserts of Iran. And he's like, you're going to be talking about this. And what I'm bringing tonight has its roots in those events. And then, you know, the revelation came later. In 1996, 1997, in that year, I was a graduate student at a graduate student at, the UFT here in Toronto, and I was studying French literature, actually, and language. I did my master's in that.

You're a romantic. You're a hopeless romantic. Look at you. Well, I wanted to be a storyteller. I love it. And so I walked up, you know, we were going through a series of Bible studies. There's a gentleman who's actually on the documentary, John O'Neill, and it was like a time of revelation.

You know, this was an organization that I belonged to and I'd come to faith through them. You know, I'd come to the Lord Jesus through them and received an an anointing to the Holy Spirit. Now we were, there was these Bible studies that we were weekly involved in this revelation coming from about the whole idea of the Nephilim and the sons of God and the gods of the nation, all of these things. So as part of this time of intense revelation, I walked up the stairs one day and he said, you know, I know where the throne of Satan is. That's how it greeted me. And I was like, really, you know where the throne of Satan is? Where is the throne of Satan?

He said, it's in the city of Pergamon. I said, okay, and how do you know that? He said where it says is right here. And he showed me Revelation chapter 2. One of the letters that the Lord himself sent an angel, he didn't write it as a king, but he spoke it or telepathically conveyed it to an angel who came to earth and gave it to John, to the angel of Messiah's community in Pergamum, write, Thus says the one who has the sharp two-edged sword,

I know where you live, where Satan's throne is. Yet you continue to hold firm to my name and you did not deny your faith in me even in the days of Antipus. My faithful witness, who was killed among you where Satan reside. Now, there's a series I do on the book of Revelation, which is on my Patreon page. And these seven cities were all of them, seven halt centers of the gods and of the Nephalene, all seven, very important cult centers.

They were kind of like the Mecca of Greco-Roman world. This is where the spiritual energy and worship of the Greco-Roman world pointed to. But out of all of these cities, the most prestigious, the most important of all the religious altars was the one that was in the city of Pergamum. And that was the altar of Zeus. So I went and did some research about this city and found out that that altar was there. And I said to him, I think this is it. Even the guy who dug it up, far all human, he thinks this altar was the throne of Satan that Jesus is referring to.

if he was referring to something, you know, architectural, then this was a thing. And he said, well, you know, why would God be creating a connection in our minds between Zeus, the leader of like the Greco-Roman or the Greek pantheon and Satan, you know, the leader of the fallen angels? Now, I know that the adversary, that's what Satan means, the adversary, can in a way actually refer to the whole bunch of these guys. and the serpent of Genesis 3, the Nakhash, is of course, you know, the one that commonly we, you know, in the culture, tend to just call Satan. But here in this case, we really are talking about that guy.

Because there was the cult center of these beings in all of these southern towns. And that is one of the running themes in the letters of the Lord. He's saying to them, do not compromise with the gods, because, you know, he declared in, uh, Caesarea Philippi, he went on the top of the hill, and he declared that this world order of of these beings was going to be done away with, you know, and idol worship and the worship of these beings were going to be done away with. And these cult centers, strong places they were, they were infiltrating the body of the Messiah, the body of Christ. And so the running theme is don't compromise with this and take it out, or I'm going to take the light away. He's not

talking about customary sins like, you know, don't commit adultery or don't steal, you know, because, you know, no church would survive. And so why is he making this connection? And this became the key, actually, this connection that the Lord inspired became the very key that opened the door into the study of the gods. This is, this was how I plunged in and we talked about that last that. So I'm not going to go there. People can listen to that show. This is now taking us in a different direction. Now, when you look at this altar that Carl Human dug up, he was a German engineer lived at the end of the 19th century, and he brought it to Berlin, and can I keep that in mind because we're going to come back. Interesting. Berlin is interesting. Real quick, I wanted to orient people

because I had to do this for myself as you're talking, Ali, because you know, you hear the Pergamum and Smyrna and Ephesus, you hear all these cities, right? But Pergamum is across the Egeonc from Greece, in Turkey. So if you were to take it a map and you kind of have Greece on the left-hand side, you have Turkey on the right-hand side across the Agenc.

And Pergam is the most north city. And it helps me because you think about John. And I don't always think about him. He's in Patmos, he's sort of an exile when he's writing, at the end of his life,

he's writing revelation, correct me if I'm wrong here. But this is in sort of the northern coastal area of Turkey, if you are a more visual person like I am. And I kind of wanted to see that. Because, you know, I think oftentimes we think about all this stuff sort of happening in and around Israel, right, and the Holy Land.

But I'm excited to hear why the throne of Satan is, in fact, in Pergam. And I know you're going to get there. But just as you will, you know, at this point in time, the Greek Empire is fairly large. And this is where this is taking place. So I want to just kind of put that out there so people could have sort of have that visual alongside. Yeah. If they Google a G&C, then they'll see and click on maps. They'll immediately see it.

It's right there. Eastland side, modernly Turkey on the other side. But remember, in those days, Greek tribes would have been living on Turkish side, because Turkey, the country that's a thousand-year-old, thousand years old. Right, right. Now we're going back 2,000 years. So it would have been kind of the same people that lived on both sides of the G and see the Greeks. And then in the south, you have the island of Crete where you can go to the Museum of Crete and see

giant axes wielded by, you know, John. I did. I've been there. I did that, Ali, on my honeymoon. I went to Canosos and to the to the labyrinth of the Menatar and the palace. And this is before we got blurry. So I just found it all very interesting and loving history. But yeah, Crete's down below.

If you make a big circle, you can start in, sort of start in Athens and go all the way down to Crete and up and around to Pergamum. And you can sort of have this complete circle. So awesome. Sometimes it feels like when you get that phone bill, it's like the crash site document. You can't read it. There's a bunch of numbers, random fees, vague language, stuff's. blacked out. You're like, what am I actually paying for? I don't know about you, but I like keeping my money where I can see it. I like to be simple.

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You know, Zeus became a bull, and he went and kidnapped the princess of Thrace, just in the north of that area, brought her down and had a child with her, and that child was King Minos. And the bull is a symbol of Zeus, and you see it on the European Union money. And another one, of course, is the eagle, and you see it on all the flags of where his prince is all the way from Moscow to D.C. And so this is, you know, Zeus is the character here that the Lord is identifying as Satan as far as I'm concerned by making this connection between the altar and the throne. Now, when the priest would come to this altar, he would then go, he would offer the sacrifices and then he would go in deeper. There was another section where he would

receive, you would get haunted by the spirit. of Zeus. And then he would bring messages to the emperor, you know, the way that the Diocletian send the message to the Oracle of Delphi and asked, you know, what do I do with the Christians? And Napoleon said the Christians are the enemies of the gods. And so he carried out the largest persecution. When you look at all the ancient world, even the sea of Pergman, the temple, the royal palace, and the library were interconnected. Because the libraries contained primarily the laws and decrees of the gods. That's what the purpose of the library was.

Even the Library of Congress is there to help the lawmakers, especially in the old days, to go and look for information. This is a tradition that goes all the way back to the ancient world, and most of the senators of Rome were priests of Jupiter. There was the connection between the gods, the center of power, and the teachings that came from them shaped really the ancient world.

and that's what the message of the gospel really took down. And as people were delivered from this, and that's why we don't see it, because we're looking at our, through the world as we see it, we're like, where is all this? We don't see all of this. Well, you have to go and study it. So when the documentary was released,

and we put this idea in there that this is the throne of Satan, and I was thinking, is this true? Is this really, you know? And that year, a store opened up near where I lived in work and where they sold magazines. And I went and I was looking at it. And suddenly I saw this magazine, biblical archaeology. And I was like, oh, that's interesting.

That's up my, you know, stuff I like. I picked it up in my alley. And suddenly it said on it, Satan's throne. And people at home can't see it, but you guys can so you can voucher. And I immediately recognized that this is a piece of the altar of Purgam. Architecturally. So I bought it and it came and I read it right away. It talks about Satan's throne and how, you know, this is what the Messiah

I was pointing to this altar of Zeus when he talked about this particular throne. And she, Adela Collins, from Yale Theological Seminary, she went ahead to make the connection between the gods. And in 2006 here, and she said, you know, that, you know, the Septuagint as well as the Greek translation, here's an example, the Pharaoh of Egypt. He looks into the library and he says, the laws of all the gods, are in the library of Egypt, but not the laws of the gods of Israel. And so he gets these guys to translate the Old Testament.

And that's why we have it in Greek to put into his library. Interesting. And that's how we got the Septuagint, you see? He wanted all the laws of this God. You know, the coat of Hamurabi, you know, you see the big statue, the sun god champs, hands down the coat of Hamurabi. So this was the way it was in the ancient world. And this is what you look at the library of Ashurbanipal,

in the city of Nineveh that was unearthed by layer. That, you know, the library was very classified, very organized in different topics, but the majority of the library was dedicated to the names, epitats, and teachings of the Elohim or the gods. So here she says, you know, in the article that there is Septuagin,

talks about the sons of God having been put in charge of the various nations, you know, Detroit, 23rd, or Saturday night. And she says, the death he scrolls, the most of the oldest Hebrew copies of the Old Testament say the same thing. So she made the connection as well already in this 2006 article. So for me it was good that she made that connection about the gods because nobody else was talking about this. You showed me through two years ago.

But also no one was talking about the throne. And this was comforting to me because I took it as a sign from the lore that in the year the documentary was released, this article came out and that I found it, you know, like that. about Satan's throne. And if you do kind of what was on there, you know, what was depicted on this thing was the war of the giants, the Nephilim and the gods. And so the way the altar depicts it in its imagery all carved all around it is that the gods were the ones that rescued humanity from the rebellion of the giants and from the evil of the giants and they restored order. Zeus is the one that takes. take the merit of, you know, bringing order to the world after the flood and after the destruction

of giants. And therefore, the emperors are here to make sure that the law and order of this, you know, Jupiterian-Zusian world is established throughout the earth through the imperial system. Essentially, he attributes to himself the deeds of God. And he is the one that bring you know, law and order to the world. And so that's what was called the Roman peace, you know. And even when the Rome took over Athens, they said, oh, we have brought the Roman peace here. And it was a famous term, La Pacha Romana, La Pax Romana. But that's what it was.

It was like the order of Zeus, you know, must be established. He's going to bring, he's the one that's brought peace. And there was the gods in Nephleam. They're mentioned in all of these cities as the founder of this city was in Nephlin. So this was the beginning of this journey, and you go, okay, so God is making this connection between Jesus and Satan, where is this going to take us? Now, if we go to Matthew chapter 24, the Lord talks about the end of the age. You know, they say to him, tell us about the end of the end. And this is the very famous passage where he says it will be like the days of Noah.

And the reason he says that is because you look at Athe Ceciastes chapter 1. 1, verse 9, what was will be again? What has done will be done again, right? Ecclesiastes chapter 1, verse 9. This is the biblical idea of cycles, that history moves forward in a spiral. Mark Twain said history doesn't repeat itself, but it sure does rhyme. And I think he got to, it moves, it moves forward in cycles, in cycles, in spiral form. It's a line, but actually the line is moving forward through like the seasons. You know, every year we have the spring and the fall, and every year we have the appointed days. And every day, every year we remember the Passover where the Lord was crucified.

So, but the works of God are still progressing through this cyclical movement through time. And so the rabbis believed that the reason all of the things, the history that existed in the Old Testament was there, because it was pregnant with a template that spoke of the ages of the future, and that these events would occur again in the future, but on a larger scale. And that's why God had decided that these were the moments of history that he would put in his sacred scripture, because they would inform us of this great battle and the birth pangs of the Messianic Kingdom and of the movement towards redemption and the establishment,

and establishing a eternal state, how are we going to get there, where it's going to happen through history, and there's a story here. And so they say to him, what are all of the signs of your coming? He says, well, it'll be like the days of Noah. And as he's giving us this big speech,

suddenly in the middle of it, he says, so when you see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place, then those in Judea must flee to the mountains, then one on the roof must not go down to take what is in his house. So, and people can read themselves, it's Matthew 24 verse 15. So what's happening here is he's again referring to a historical event, spoken of by who, Daniel, the Prophet.

So this was very known to his audience because Daniel, the Prophet, you know, in what's now chapter 11, of his book, he had prophesied about this guy that would come to Israel, you know, his forces will rise up and profane the fortified temple, they will stop the daily offering and set up the abomination of desolation. And so the Lord takes this teaching from Daniel, and he now is going to open it up further for us. Now, Antiochus Epiphanes had come around the year 167, and he had by ruse slowly slowly gotten into their minds and the heads of the, you know,

he had changed the high priest. He put a new high priest in Jason. And he got into the heads of the priesthood and into the culture. And he started to convince them to start sacrificing to the gods. And they started to do that on a mass level in Israel, the priesthood as well. Then he started to say to them, you know what, why don't we start to change the law? They let's outlaw the reading of the five books of Moses, and they did that. Then he says, okay, let's outlaw the keeping of the Sabbath.

They did that. But what is this desolation of abomination that, you know, that Daniel's talking about? He then says, you know what, let's go one step further. He walks into the temple, sacrifices a pig on the sacrificial altar. That's when it becomes desolate. Now it's unusable for the atonement sacrifices that take away sin and fulfill God's law. And then he goes into the Holy of Holy, to the very center of the temple. And he erects an idol to Zeus because he is a devout follower of the God Zeus.

That's who he is himself, Antiochus Epiphanes, whose name means God manifest, actually. And he's a servant of Zeus. you know, he's one of the generals of the Greek world. So the Persian world, you know, that's a boundary that those seven churches are the boundary between the Persian world and the Greek world. And now Alexander the Great arose and he took over the Persian Empire when we have kind of this new power that's come in to play. And one of his generals after his death inherits this portion of the kingdom,

the Selis seed, and he is the one as a servant of Zeus who comes. and erects this altar of Zeus in the temple. And so this people thought this was done. This was fulfilled. You know, they're prophesied and Antiochus Epiphanes fulfilled it. But the Lord says, no, this is a template. Those events that happened in the days of Antiochus are one of those historical templates that speak of the future.

So he suddenly brings a new teaching that was absent. He pulls it out the way that he said these are the days of Noah. He's now in that very speech taking in yet another days, the days of Antiochus Epiphanes. Now, what happens? What could have been happening in the future, first of all? Let's talk about that for a second. You said this place was steps from the water. We just haven't found the steps yet.

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that actually the seed of the serpent, you know, in Genesis chapter 3, God puts an enmity between the seed of the woman and the seed of the serpent. Once you understand that Nephilim were real and that there was a bloodline of the serpent, and you realize there really is a seed of the serpent, then this son of perdition that, you know, what Paul is talking about in second to Solonians,

is in fact the serpent seed. know, in its full glory. That's why the Lord, you know, in the story of David and Goliath, David, who's a type of the Messiah, he slew in Nephilim, because that was, again, another picture of a past event that spoke of this climactic, you know. And so what Paul says is what's going to happen is that this guy is going to come and he's going to go in the temple of God. This man is going to go in the temple of God and declare himself. self above all that is called God and above all that it's called and you ask to be worshipped. And so when the Lord says when you see the abomination of desolation in the holy of holies and

talking about the future, then when Paul says the same thing, but Paul adds this clarification proof that you are precision to it, that this is a man and that this man is a character that, you know, we all talk about as the Antichrist. So there's all this idea that emerges that, you know, there's going to be a third temple, you know, being built. Because when is it that the Jewish people have ever come to this land without building a temple? They came there the first time. What do they do?

They build a temple. Second time the temple. And what does the ecclesiastists tell us? What was will be, right? It's the cycles of history. And so suddenly the idea. that there is this man. And, you know, I was letting my phone charge outside in the other room.

I'm out of pludge in here so that I could quickly, you know, bring up the passages that I have lined up. And so in Second Thessalonians, he comes and says, you know, this is the way it's going to go down. There's going to be this character. And there is the man of lawlessness. And this letter, the Second Thessalonian letter, people were saying, you know what, the Lord has come and people have missed it.

This was a lie. And so Paul is actually, you know, saying, no, these events are going to happen before, you know, the Lord comes. Let no one deceive you. That's what he's talking about, this deception that was going around. For the day will not come unless the rebellion comes first and the man of lawlessness was revealed, the one destined to be destroyed. He opposes and exalts himself above every so-called God. or object of worship so that he sits in the temple of God,

proclaiming himself that he is God. And it goes on and talks about lies and delusions and very much ties into the war of angels, actually, because this man, he's going to make fire come from heaven. I think he's going to make a UFO connection. So this story, the Lord says, is going to have kind of a future template. Now, what happened in the days of Antiochus Epiphanes,

the servant of Zeus, who put an idol of Zeus, So that tells us that this man at the end is going to also be connected to Zeus and to that principality. He's going to be the son of Zeus. In fact, that is what Zeus, who Zeus is Satan. And so that's what I think the Lord is talking about. So the Lord identifies him.

And who was Zeus? Where did he come from? Well, there was the cult of Marduk in the city of Babylon. And when the Persians took over Babylon, the worship was of Marduk. left Marduk, left Babylon and came to Pergamum and established the cult of Zeus. And before Marduk, the character in the Sumerian pantheon that matches him going further back into before Babylon is Enlil. If you look at the tablets of kingship, they always talked about the sector of Enlil.

I mean, that's the God that gave them the power and authority to rule Mesopotamia. and there was his culted that he had a temple, and often the kings of Mesopotamia would go into that temple to the priests and get their blessing. In the Hebrew tradition, he will be called Baal, the storm god always, and even Bilzab is the prince of the power of the air. That's why Zeus's sign was the lightning.

And if you look at the SS, their S wasn't really its S's. It was two lightnings, right? So it kind of aligns, you know, the whole idea, of this character. He's an important character. And the temple, we don't think about the temple, but when you look at the place the temple had, in the story of the Lord's resurrection, he goes to a heavenly temple where God is. And he presents the full body of the resurrection. He sits on a throne at the right-hand side of God. And the father sends the Holy Spirit as a result of this, you know, a complete, complete work. And the book of Hebrews tells us that essentially

the temple of clay that was on the earth was a shadow of a heavenly temple. And even the ornaments and the things that were inside of the temple, it says in the book of Hebrews quoting Exodus chapter 25 that Moses was shown the pattern of heavenly things that are in the temple of God. and he was told to build earthly replicas. So this was a very important place for this man to walk into and desecrated and put a idol of Zeus, who is, I think, the Lord is saying, in fact, the God that wears the face of Satan themselves. To put that holy of holies, where only the high priests could enter, only once a year on the holiest day of the year, to atone for confess his sins and sins of the people.

So the Lord, as the high priest, ascended into the Holy of Holies, you know, at the center of time and space. And if you look at it, there are four temples in the Bible. There is the temple of clay that was in Jerusalem. Then there is the human. We become temples as we receive the whole spirit is where the sacred dwells. Then we have the temple that the Lord will reign from when he returns the earth if you believe in that millennial kingdom. Not everyone does, but I do. And later we are told that we enter into the heaven.

Jerusalem, it's described as this cube, the descent, and we enter it. And what has happened then once we entered as the royal priesthood, this is our destiny, this is, the earth is the incubation chamber of the immortal children of God. The universe itself, or the heavens and the earth, the new heavens and the new earth become the temple. And we are in the Holy of Holies in the middle of it, as the entire creation is the temple of God, and we in the middle of the Holy of the Holy is serving as the priest of God. So the fact that there was an earthly replica of this majestic and glorious and that this guy went in.

So what happens? The Lord stirs up the righteous souls of a priestly family, Judah, known as the Hammer, Maccabee. And he and his sons, they say, you know what? You know, Antiochus, he's got all the big armies. He's got the latest tech and he's got the manpower, but we don't really care. We have the Lord God with us, like the story of David and Goliath. We're a refuse this.

And he goes and they knew God. But Antiochus fooled them. You know, he came not to the people that didn't know God. He came to the people that had forsaken their God. But this family got up and they started to do this type of militia warfare where the Judean heels are steep and the phalanx of the Greeks, they have spears, they have shields, they walk in lines, they would come down the two sides and stab them on the side, and these guys couldn't steer with their big shields and spears to fight well, and they started to fall.

And eventually it was so heavy, the casualties were so heavy that Antiochus leaves, and he goes away and lets them be, and now what do they do? They rededicate the temple to God. And this rededication feast is mentioned once in the entire Bible in the New Testament, in John chapter 10, where the Lord is seen attending. The term in Hebrew is Hanukkah. That's what it means to rededicate. And they would put these giant, giant candlesticks. It's a different candlestick than the one that the Lord commanded has, you know, eight.

So the Lord was attending Hanukkah, it says that in John chapter 10, verse 22, and they come and ask him, are you the Messiah? Why do they ask him that at Hanukkah? Because after this event with Judah Maccabee, the Jewish people thinking about the system of patterns in scripture, they think, you know what? Clearly, this, we had a victory against an empire on this day. So this is the time of the coming of the Messiah. The Messiah will appear on one of the feasts of dedication. And that's why they come to him and they say, are you the Messiah? And he says, you know, I'm telling you, I am, right?

This becomes the release of the first light. So when you look at the books of Moses, five books of Moses, the word that is mentioned more than any other word is Mishkan, which means tent of meeting in temple. because God above all wants to meet us and have intimacy with. And that's why the curtain is removed and his spirit enters us. He wants to have soul-to-soul connection with. Kind of like a lover.

I mean, that's what the song of songs is about. And that's what the covenant Sinai is about. It's a wedding ceremony. And this Jewish wedding works. You get engaged and the groom goes away, he builds a house. He comes and gets you. So it's like the Lord said, I'll go prepare a place. And then he goes to the wedding feast.

Right. And he turns the water into wine. And so, and we celebrate because wine is the, was seen as, you know, the, what you have when you're celebrating. Makes you feel good and all that. So this was, uh, where we're headed. That's the, that's the rumor. Yes. Yes.

So this, uh, what it was in the Jewish writing. So this is kind of the story of the Bible is a love story, right? And that's why the tent of meeting. But in the passages where the tent of meetings, mentioned, the word that appears the most in those passages is the menor, the candlestick, which represented the light of God. And I'd say something interesting. One of the times I was in Israel and I take people there, I'm thinking of taking a small group next fall if things calm down. You want to come with me, let me know. It's fascinating to walk in the setting of

scripture. I mean, things come to life. It's just mind-blowing. Here's one example. The Getsemini, where the Lord went and he cried just before he was going to be. arrested and he was you know had sweating bullets and all of that first of all gitsemone in the bible doesn't say the garden of gertemite the word garden that you can look at in your new testament you'll never find the word garden it says getsemone which means olive press and there is there this hill right across the temple mount where there are olives trees and some of those olive trees are four or five hundred years old some are even older some may have been there even from the is the Lord. Olive trees live a long time. And underneath it, there is an olive press to this day

embedded in the cave. It's a cave. You go into the cave under the hill and there's an olive press. And the Franciscans, you know, man that and they have services there because they think this was actually the cave. This is where he was hiding with his Scybless. But what's interesting is this, that the olive trees that are up there, they're not just any olive trees. They were the olive trees whose olive was cultivated purely and simply and only for the purpose of being crushed to be the olive that lights the candlestick of the... Wow. That Moses had seen a heavenly replica.

So the Lord goes to the hill where the olive is that lights up the candle of the temple. Wow. And he crushed as he's praying. the way that olive gets crushed on the stone of the olive press that trushes it to extract the olive. And then he goes to the other hill across the street where the temple mount is, where the temple is. And he gets crucified and becomes the light of the world like the candle stick and shines. And also all of the oil is the sign of the anointing of the Holy Spirit. And on with the Him comes the anointing.

I mean, that's what Messiah means, anointed one. And his disciples, us, we're the anointed one of God. So the Spirit of God. So there's a, you don't know that until you're there. And you go, wait a second. This was the other where the olives of that temple. Oh, I see why he was here. Why he was crushed here.

He was like, you know. And so there was a huge importance about this place. You know, if you believe the Lord's going to come back and rule the earth, it's going to rule it from there. So this thing, when they redidicated the temple, apparently the priest, somebody had had the mind to hide some of this special oil because they had to light up the candlestick. But it takes eight days to make the oil. But somehow every night there was enough oil and it lasted for the eight days that they needed to make the new batch of oil. And that's why it had its own special candlestick.

It was about light. The light of odd was reignited. the machinery of God moving forward towards redemption, salvation, the establishing of the kingdom, the freeing of humanity, the giving back of the inheritance of Adam and the cosmic tale. All of that started again because of the obedience of Judah Maccabee and the rededication of the temple. This is a Bose moment.

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his light and giving us a template of a future stratagem that for three and a half years, the temple was left desolate at that time before this type of the Messiah came. Even they thought, oh, the Messiah's going to come at this time. That's why they asked him, are you the Messiah at this time? And so when Paul talks about this guy, we'll see, we'll see, you know, and we'll see where this story goes. And I'll talk about it at the end of our tale. Then you move forward, they build the temple, they rededicate the temple and now we have the time of the Lord and the Lord comes and he's on the back of a don quay and he's coming down from the hill and like you know it was prophesied and then they declare him the king Hosanna the king and apparently it's a very special day you know some people

do this calculation they said this is a day that was you know Daniel had this had this incredible prophecy in chapter 9 about the 70 weeks and somehow when you do the calculation that it's falls that on this day, it said that he would be called the king. And this was the only time we know of in the entire Bible where the people get around and call him king. And then he's on the back of the donkey and he's coming down. And then he stops right on this little hill, you know, the Mount of Olives. Jerusalem has three hills, right? And he stops on the Mount of Olives. That's, you know, where the olives are. But this is another section of it. He stops the Mount of Olives. And he weeps. And he weeps, you know, kind of read like Luke 19,

Luke 21, he weeps over the temple and he says it's going to be destroyed, that that Jerusalem is going to be surrounded by her enemies, that not one stone will stand. It gives this massive prophecy about the destruction of the temple. And that's interesting. You know, when the Romans come, they eventually, they did want to take the gold out of the temple, but the temple catches fire A flaming arrow is thrown in. We don't know where a torch was thrown in. And they say, look, sorry, the gold melted. It's connected to the stones.

And he says, then dismantle it's stone by stone and melt the gold for him. And the prophecy of the Lord happens. Literally, and you go to Jerusalem today, you can see what's left of the temple. They threw the stones down and it just hit the ground and broke the sidewalk. And it's right there. The stone is still there. And so is the sidewalk. Warner of the temple that just collapsed.

is still there, and it says on Hebrew, the place of the shofar, because that's where one of the Levi's would go to blow the shofar to announce that the Sabbath had started, or a particular feast they had started. They didn't have clocks. So these guys are a new moon had come. And so it's interesting to walk in there, even where the money changers were, is still there. And it's to feel all of that, it's quite fascinating. And so as he's kind of telling them, but when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then recognize that her desolation is near,

then those in Judea must flee to the mountains and those inside the street must get out and those in the countryside must not enter her. So it gives this prophecy of the armies coming and suddenly these armies eventually show up around 70 to 18, you know, between 68 and 70. And so what's interesting, first of all, is this. The empire that sends the army, who is their God? Jupiter, which is the name that the Romans give to Zeus. That's right.

Because when the scepter of power moved from empire to empire, these people believed that the pantheon had moved from one place to another, and that the leader of the pantheon of the gods had anointed a new civilization as his extension, and the emperor of that civilization was now receiving the scepter of rule from the chief of the gods, and they would rename it. in the lightness of their culture, in order to identify with him, he was now theirs and they were now his.

He was no longer the Zeus who gave the power to Athens. He was now the Jupiter, who gave the power to Rome. But they understood it was the same guy, and that's why they sacrificed. In 24-7, sacrifices were offered at the altar of Zeus. So the same spiritual force that was behind Antiochus Epiphany that came in and corrupted the people of God and desecrated the temple and stopped the machinery of the entire work of God

and put an idol of Zeus in the Holy of Holies. The same spiritual force again comes from the same principality. And sign it destroys the temple not on any day, But on the ninth of the month of ath in biblical calendar, why is that important? Because that is exactly the day that the Babylonians destroyed the temple several centuries ago. Two empires, centuries apart, destroyed the temple on the same day, the ninth of the month of that. Just shows you kind of like, you know, there was a spiritual force behind this. Now, what is the ninth of ab?

The ninth of half is the day that the 12 spies that were sent into the land and they saw the Nephilim and they came back and 10 of them said, we can't take these guys, the evil report they gave and people accepted that report. That was the 9th of Av. And from then, tragedies that occurred on that day. That's why the Orthodox Jews fast and pray on the 9th of Av to avoid. tragedy. They see a pattern. There's several other tragic events that have happened on that day. So it was interesting. And so what is God's response to this? God's response is, he sends the Holy Spirit, the second light. The first light is, you know, the light of the temples, of Judaism, whatever you want to call it, it turns back on. And the Lord honors that day by attending

the re-dedication of the temple and says, this is a teaching of Jesus. And says, this is a teaching of for the end times. But the second time, that spiritual force that is behind Antiochus Epiphanes, behind the son of perdition, I imagine there, behind the emperor of Rome, the one whose throne was in Pergamum, the second time he reaches towards that temple, destroy it, and begins to kill who, all the people who have become anointed with the Holy Spirit and have happened to become the new temples. He starts to, you know, try to extinguish them. And so the second time he reaches to do that, the Lord responds by sending a greater life, which is his own spirit, his own presence, enters where?

Well, Paul receives a dream from a Macedonian man who says to him, come in our direction. And that's why Christianity goes west into the realm of Jupiter and doesn't go east. And it's a good thing. because if this is the most powerful of all the principalities, and he was going to continue to build, you know, it kind of, you know, there is, the Roman Empire is under him. And then, of course, where does the sect,

when the Roman Empire dies in the West and where he's reborn, where is the new center? Germany is through the Germanic tribes, you know, that the Roman Empire, Charlemagne, comes from Germany, and he says, I'm going to create the Holy Roman Empire. And that's where we're going to find. find this thrown ultimately in Berlin in the most powerful motion of the emerging.

So this character, the second time he reaches his hand to stop, to destroy the things of God and to say, no, this replica of this holy place, no, you know, these people who are anointed, no, what does God do? He sends the Holy Spirit into his realm. And it's a good thing because if his realm was destined always to be the most, you know, most powerful, the most industrial, the most technological, the most advanced, the most politically, you know, powerful, the most militarily powerful of the realms, it's good that the Holy Spirit and the people that have it live there because it keeps it down and influences. You know, imagine if the most

powerful part of the world didn't have the presence, you know, why did Christiandom have to be in that principality's realm? You know, why did God, you know, this dream that Paul received, even when Jesus in Acts chapter 26, he says to Paul, I send you now to the Gentiles to bring them from darkness to light from the power of Satan to God. That's what Jesus says in Acts 26 to Paul, from the power of Satan to God. And so he's saying, and then the dream that Paul receives from the Macedonian, it says, come to us, gives him the Gentiles. Well, the Gentiles would mean anybody. I mean, you know, Paul could have gone to Mesopotamian. through the Silk Road, you can come to Persia, to India, to China.

You know, there's lots of civilization there. But, no, you're going to go this way, the dream tells him. And I think it's because of this. And to hold down this very powerful place. And that's why the shift we're seeing in the West right now with the rise of paganism, the return to the way things were before the Word of God came. You know, we see Europe has undergone massive changes in its spirituality. since World War II, and now we see North America, you know, is undergoing massive changes

culturally. We don't really live in a Judeo-Christian world anymore. We don't even live in a post-Judeo-Christian world. We live in an anti-Judeo-Christian world, you know, where even what you're down, the internet can be censored if it's too much in agreement with the Bible. So this is kind of changing the fabric of the world as a whole, you know, the signs and symbols of these beings. you know, appear over us. And so there's a change happening in the United States. And I think it's important that the Christians rise up at this time and say, no, we want to hold on to the heritage that came from Jerusalem into the realm of this principality, you know.

And so, and we want to hang on to this truth. So that's the second time. Now we move forward to the time where Carl Human at the end of the 19th century, boom, discovers this altar. How do you interpret the temptation of Christ, given all this knowledge? Yes. In the part where Satan says to him, the meaning has been given to me over the kings of the earth, we worship me?

Well, clearly, he is the leader. It's a contentious kingdom, that of the enemy. But it seems to me they fight among each other. But he is the leader, which says in the look at Revelation, one third followed him. the ancient dragon, you took one-third of the stars down with his tail. So these principalities and powers and these gods, the prident, the eagle, the bull, the crescent of the moon, their symbols are all over the place. They love their symbols.

It marks their boundaries. I mean, the book I'm going to be writing about is going to reveal some of these boundaries, and it's going to bring so many things to light that has to do with these characters. But basically, this whole temptation that you're talking about, what to hear. he's saying is, look, all of these beings, they're under me, they're my guys, and I'm their leader, and I've put my scepter right now in Rome. His scepter goes from his phrypnea, from Babylon to Greece to Rome, and he's like, I'll give you all of this. I know that God has given you Israel, but if you worship me, I'll throw in the empire, and we can have it all. We can have Israel,

Kana like Antiochus Epiphanes. Bring Israel to my side, sacrifice to the gods. And we know we will have, you can have the empire. And of course, as the centuries go forward, we'll build up the heavenly chariots and will, like Nemrod, will carry our rebellion into the heavens, you know. And the Lord says to him, no, it is written. Worship God alone.

Satan behind me. And so the Lord says, no, what I'm going to do is what he declares at Caesiria Philippa, I talked about this when I went to Israel in 2013, and they took me to Sizir Philippi and they explained that this was actually the hill the Lord came to his disciples. And it was a pagan center of worship for the Romans. And there was all these pagan temples. And he goes on top of the hill and he says, you know, who do you say I am?

And they say you're the Christ, the son of God. And he says, Peter says that. And says, no man gave you this idea. And he said upon this rock, I will build my. my church and the gates of Hades will not recover it, there was a place of sacrifice to the gods called the gates of Hades, where you threw your sacrifice, you bound it, and you threw it in there. And if it went down the waters, it meant your prayers are accepted.

If it didn't, it meant it wasn't. He went on top of this hill with all these temples, and he said, basically, there's going to be a new spiritual order. The power of these powers and presentals are going to be diminished, and the beginning of the new creation, my people, is going to rise. And the gates, these things of the Hades won't overcome. And this was his answer to the temptation, I think. Like, you know what? I'm not going to take the bargain you're offering me. Thank you very much. We want to worship God. And I'm going to,

the Passover lamb is going to now bring people out of Egypt, out of bondage to the gods and to the Pharaoh. There's going to be a final pharaoh, a final kingdom. That's what I think we're seeing right now. Everything is going back to the first century. The Jewish people are back in the land. Jerusalem is in their hand. There's the Messianic movement of the start in 1966. Again, Jews are declaring Jesus as the Messiah and preaching it. The empires are forming again. The Persians are extending their power all through the Middle East. Like there were the last empire of that region as far as God gave power to that center of rule. And then as the Romans destroyed Jerusalem and scattered the Jewish people, God said that he'll bless those who bless his people and curse those

who cursed them. So I think that God's divided Rome and scattered them. Scattered Rome. into all of these little heads, you know, that became the European nations and eventually their extension into the new world. But now that Jerusalem is back and Israel is back, they may start uniting again and form, you know, Emcox, and eventually having a leader. So everything is going back 360 degrees, it seems, to the day. That's the cycle, right? You talked about, yeah. It's interesting. I love how you put this because we've talked about this a lot on the show, but like the idea of the passing of the sceptre, right? You have in-lil with the Mesopotamians, and you have Bail,

and then you have Marduk, and then you have Zeus, and then you have Jupiter, right? And you have this succession, but they all are what? They're all gods of the air. You even have raw. If you don't have raw in there from Egypt, you have gods of the air, then are just, it's a,

it's a rebranding, remarketing, renaming of this entity that then takes control of the civilization, of power or of note in that time. But they all are storm gods, air gods, et cetera. And then I know we talked about Satan being the prince of Rome at this point, right? Because he is the prince of the power of the air and then in temptation of Christ is if he's giving the kings of the world, well, that's the empire of Rome, as you said.

That's they owned the known world. They dominated and subjugated the known world. And I think that's fascinating. There's a couple of things I wanted to point out that I love the hammer. Is there a better nickname than being called the hammer if you're Judah? And then what I thought was interesting was you're talking about the tense of meeting. When you think about that word in Hebrew, what thing that came to my mind and you were on a role, so I didn't want to just make a comment.

But when you talk about the angel of the Lord, right, and you have this Supreme Carnic Christ, and what does he do? He goes and he sits and he eats with Abraham. And he goes, he goes and meets. It's such the heart of God, right? That even as this angel of the Lord, this, you know, Jesus before. before Jesus is Jesus walking the earth is still, in the form of God, is still wanting to go meet and sit and eat.

And he's the same yesterday and today and forever. And I just love that picture because as you talk about everything coming back to sort of the way it was, it's always good to remind that God is the same. He wants the same things. He wants to sit with us. He wants to be with us. He wants to eat with us, right? In the same way he did with Abraham.

In the same way he ate with Jesus ate with his disciples and broke bread. Like that's the father heart is to have the relationship. with his, these kids. These are profound things that, that were sort of connecting strings. And I really like how you've done it. And we've talked,

we've talked to ad nauseum actually about, you know, Penaeus and the things you talk about, the gates of hell and, and the importance of Mount Hermann there. And essentially what happened in Genesis 6 and Christ being so intentional to be there. And to say the things he said and to take his disciples.

And like you said, if you haven't been to Israel, you don't know how far away that is from where they were. It was like a, we're going on a field trip, so get your push, strap up your sandals. We're taking a, we're taking a hike. This isn't, you know, this isn't, we're not going down to Nazareth. Guys, we're going, we're going up the road.

But it's the, I think one of the things that's always impressed upon me, and I know it is you as well, is the cosmic significance, right? Not only that place, but then the cosmic significance of, as you said, that beautiful story about Gassimini. And Christ is so intentional. Like, these are the, these are the layers, right? Like the oil and the press, it's like this is not only, there's cosmic significance to this. Like there is a, you know, Christ's love to speak in parables.

And there is this unwrapping of this really intentional parable, if you will, of location, meaning cosmic significance in the kingdom. And I think that those things are so important as we sort of unwrap the, you know, understanding the scriptures and getting into our body. Bible and having that, it's richness. I don't know how else to put it, but I love that. And I don't want to throw you off, but I had to talk about the hammer because, dude, what a great nickname. If you're going to be anybody in the Bible and you get a nickname, it needs to be the hammer. Yes, that's right. Going back to my kind of literature days, I think that by creating all these layers where the same ideas are reinforced, even through the physical location and geography of the land, it creates a Bulletproof approach to what the word is trying to say that the enemy can so easily,

you know, what the Lord is saying doesn't hinge on a sentence or a paragraph or an invitation. He reinforces it from so many angles, even the physical of the land that no one can miss and destroy so easily his words. It's literally built into his creation. It's like God built this into the creation before this was to happen for it to be destined to happen there. that in of itself is a mine grenade. Yes, I once heard this creature say, you know, when you look at the water comes from the Sea of Galilee

in the Jordan River comes to the Dead Sea. It's the lowest point of the earth and nothing survives. And then the sun evaporates the water and it becomes a cloud and it rains over the whole land. And he said the Lord started his ministry in Galilee, came down to Jerusalem where the dead sea is and died became dead like the sea then ascended and showered the land and so you know it's like even the the topography of the land is wow I love that that's incredible I think so many times you know the reasons why a lot of people like our show is

because we get into those sort of those weird connections between things and another thing you were talking about, I love the Olive story, and I also think that we recently talked about sort of this other way of reading revelation as if it's repeating themes, and ultimately the final, the end of the age, when everything is, you know, comes to fruition, will be a similar theme maybe to the end of some of these other empires and some of these prophecies. Instead of reading it as like, it's only going to happen at the end, reading it as if it's already happened multiple times, the same thing has happened several times. It's just going to be a little bit more unique in the end, like the final culmination of this story that keeps repeating. And we talk

about that a lot about how the Genesis 6 narrative repeats. You have this modern day version of hybrids happening. People are being abducted, and it's finally coming out, and there's evidence for that. And we've talked about that at length, and how it's similar to the ancient Genesis 6 narrative. and it's this repeat repeating theme. And I like the conversation of how Revelation is a repeating theme. Ultimately, at some point, it's going to be the end.

But until then, you can start to see how the theme repeats and how prophecy repeats. And I just like that. Yeah. Prophecy is pattern. That's how the evil mind saw that it, the prophetic poetry of the Bible is a pattern.

wasn't linear. The Greek mind saw everything had one fulfillment. I would once on a show with somebody else and he kind of corrected me. He said, no, you see, the Jews thought this was about Antiochus epiphanes, but Jesus corrected them, made them realize, no, this is about the antics. And I was thinking, no, no, you don't get it. That the Bible's narrative structure is designed this system of pattern where God, like the story of the Passover, is a small version of the bigger deliverance of humanity through the Passover lamp and the defeat of the gods and they're represented the Pharaoh. So this whole templates of the Old Testament, they are pregnant with future history. That's how the Bible is designed. And that's why the Lord is pulling on these levers and he's

saying, well, the end of the age will be like the days of Noah, it will be like the days of Antiochic. The book of Revelation says it'll be like the days of the Passover. So it's giving us clues. Now when we study those stories, it gives us clues so that we can prepare. not only recognize a prepare because we know a lot about the details of how pattern is going to unfold. So it just clues. This is actually how the Bible is written. Now the three synoptic gospels, Matthew Look and Mark, they see eye to eye. And this is a theologians came up with this idea in 1970s.

And it kind of blinds you because it has the I word ionate synoptics, but actually it blinds you to the fact that they're different. They're not the same. And they're not actually the same. And so the Oliveid discourse that says, yes, Luke talks about events that occurred at the time of the disciples and the destruction of Jerusalem. But Matthew doesn't talk about that. He talks about the end of the age. That's why the Lord says, when you see the abomination of this legend, and I'll read you passages as we get to it that will clearly, will clarify that easily. So you brought up the idea of the storm God and these names.

The idea is that this is the same character. He wears different masks as he moves from civilization to civilization age to age. There is always 12 in the pantheon, and it's like, which one is Satan? Where I'm saying the Lord deciphered it for us, he said it's Zeus. And that created this huge clarity. Now I knew that the storm god was the one that he was hiding behind. And hour of the air, I'll talk about that a little bit. That's another little revelation from the book I'm writing, but this guy comes in,

That principality that rules, this empire in the West, continues to rule it, you see, even though he's been suppressed by the Holy Spirit, but God is going to allow him one more go at it. And so by permission of God. So this Carl Human discovers this altar. He brings it to Berlin and he asks the Ottoman Caliphate permission, whether he can bring it. all the way because it's Turkey, as you said, it's kind of under the Ottoman rule at that time at the end of the 19th century. So they say, yeah, you can take it with you and then he puts it on a train, brings it to Berlin, and it's in pieces. And usually when they brought this archaeology to

Europe, they just would take a piece of it and put it in a museum and people would go and look and go, wow, and there'd be a little sign that explains it to you. But this group of people in Berlin that I haven't yet had a chance to look into because I think they were occult people. They were into the occult. They form an organization that petitions the government to build an entire museum that can house the reconstructed altar.

They're like, no, this altar has to be resurrected and reconstructed. And so they do. They rebuild it, and it's a museum island. It's the museum of Pergamum it's called. And they should Google it. You know, the Museum of Berlin, they call it now. but it's the museum of purgium i think it looks like a temple you look at that museum it doesn't

i mean the building itself looks very strange and you know what else is in that museum next to the altar the gates of ishtar another one the queen of heaven that was her nana in samarian ishtarth and the assyrians ishtar in the baby and she becomes a character in the bible the lord chastises his people in the book of jeremiah for worshiping the queen of heaven heaven and she continues to have a glorious you know cheer all the way into the age of the Holy Spirit as she's venerated and doored among the Catholic and so she is still you know here and I put her in the documentary because Fatima and all of these sightings they are like silver discs appear you know the connection between the gods and angels the UFOs so she is the Babylonians

they had this wall around the city that was very famous for chariots could race on it and had this double gates, it was called the gates of Ishtar, it's huge. It's those very gates of Babylon are in that museum with the altar of Zeus. And the museum kind of looks like a temple. And it's in the city of Berlin. And so he puts it in there and then Hitler comes to power and he says to his architect Albert Spear that you know, and Albert Spears charged with that creating this capital of Germany, make it look glorious, make it look like imperial. And We know that Hitler was demonic. We know that the whole Nazi thing, we know, was very demonic.

The 1,000-year Reich, the Bussat woman who made a movie about Hitler, Levinstein, Louis, had the movie actually on DVD, but it starts with Hitler in an airplane coming down to land because it's imitating the second coming of the Lord. He's going to stab 1,000-year right to compete with the 1,000-year rule of Christ. And so he says to Albert Speer, build me a glorious Berlin. And Albert Speer goes into this museum and he sees this altar of Zeus. And he says, you know what? I love this thing.

It seizes him somehow. And so he decides that he's going to build a giant version of it for Hitler in Nurember. If you see that picture of this airplane that bombs this Nazi symbol, you often see that entries and move. That's the Nuremberg altar of Zeus. He builds a giant replica for Hitler. And Hitler says to him, you know what? I wanted to be like a cathedral, like a Catholic manse.

So Albert Speer takes these army lights, and every 12 meter he puts these army lights and lights them up and look like now pillars of light. Why? Because the pagans, They worship outdoors. The Christians worship indoors. They took over the Roman basilica, which was a community center, and they turned it into the first churches.

But the pagans worshipped outdoors. If you go to Jupiter's temples, they're all outdoor temples. And speaking of Jupiter Temple, outdoor temples, this summer I got to go to Italy. And one of the places I went to see was Herculium. So Pompeo and Herculium. These are two important towns. Mount Vesuvius blows up, this volcano. Now, these towns were very much halt centers of Jupiter.

Inside of Pompeii, there's a giant open door to Jupiter, and Herculium was dedicated to his son, to Zeus's son, Hercules. And so right in the middle of Herculium, it's very much intact because the volcanic ash buried it, and a hill fell on top of it. If you ever go there, go to Herculian. It's like you're walking in an ancient Roman town. It's incredible. It's all there.

Like 90% of a town is there. I mean, there's even toilets and kitchens. It's incredible. Like it'll blow your mind. You think it's like something, you know, Hollywood Universal Studios came down and created. Like a set. Yeah.

Yeah. And there you, you know, you see the temple of Hercules. And so these guys worship outdoors. And I think the reason these towns were destroyed. I think it was. was part of, there was an earthquake there. People that lived in those towns felt that this was very strange. It really scared them. It was, I think, a warning. So I think as the word of God started to go out from Jerusalem, he sent the Holy Spirit and he declared the world his,

he began to destroy these cult centers. And I think that was a judgment that fell on those very important centers of worship of Jupiter and Hercules, as that, you know, earthquakes are the sign of judgment is that volcano blew up. And these guys, they're kind of, we're escaping, it comes pretty fast. And it's a very, very unique and special type of lava that doesn't turn you into dust, but actually, you know, they become like concrete, right there. And you can go there, they're behind glass, their bodies. And you can see people like this. And you can see woman huddling, calling your children. I think this was there left as a testimony. for all the generations to go see.

And I think it ties into the story of what happened in Jerusalem and Jupiter and the gods and the judgment and the Spirit of God going to deliver the people from these things. And that's what those towns are because they're a cult centers. And so he takes this and he comes, and I have seen video. I have actually a VHS tape of a documentary. You fire up that VCR. Let's go. Yeah, the 80s, baby. We know that.

And there's all these Nazi soldiers. soldiers in the ruins of the temple of Zeus, worshipping Zeus. I tell you, it's right there. They're saying sentences. There's fire and everything. They're worshipping Zeus. So he builds this altar of Pergamon, this, and then he puts the lights around it and lights it up. And it looks like Fristel Cathedral.

They come in a cathedral of lights. Google Cathedral of Lights, Germany, and you'll see it. It's incredible. And they all come at night. And then, I remember the Lord said when he spoke of the throne of Satan in Pergam, he said that's where Antipus, my faithful servant lived. You know what they did to Antipus? He was the leader of the congregation of Pergamum.

They arrested him. Who arrested him, the priests of Zeus. And what was the crime that they charged him with? Monotheism. And they put him inside of the bull. Remember I said the bull, you know, they came and took the princess and cranes. And we know the symbols of Zeus, there was a bull in the altar. And that bull was a sacrificial instrument.

It was a giant brazen bull. They put a guy in there, you know, and then they light a fire underneath and it cooks you slowly. And there's a device put in its mouth so that as you cry out in pain, it brings the nostrils of the bull to life and your sacrifice. I mean, the whole thing is very sick that these guys were like, yeah. Jesus. And so apparently, Pantipus prey to his last. breath for his congregation as he was. And so the Lord lifts him up in this famous letter that he wrote himself and he calls him, my witness, my martyr. That's what the word witness is, a martyr. My martyr.

And right, my faithful sir. So he gets his name, you know, in the book of books. And so he's, he takes that bull where that bull was, obis spear, removes the bull in the architecture of the altar and he puts in its place a microphone where Hitler becomes the bull and speak. And as these guys gather, they're all drugged, these Nazi soldiers. He says that you don't see me and I don't see you, but you feel me and I feel you. And it is from that altar that he declares the Nuremberg laws, which is the outline of the final solution of the Holocaust, a burnt offering. sacrifice of the monotheists that compete with that spiritual force.

As they come back to the land in order to fulfill the prophecies that lead the world to the second coming and the establishment of a new age of history, the enemy says, I got to stop this. I got to break the word of God. I got to break the prophetic word. Because it says in the Old Testament that, oh, God does nothing except that which he speaks through his servants and prophets. destroy them and prophecies broke.

And so that becomes the mission, kills them. Erase their name. Why do the nations conspire against God and against His anointed? And we see that in Psalm 83. Let's, you know, they says, let's conspire against his people and let us erase the name of Israel. It says that right there in Psalm 83, the nations around it. Why? Because destroy this.

So as this is coming forward, this rises, this force rises, this altar rises, this voice rises that says, no, let's burn them. Let's, you know, let's destroy them. And he does through this Hagen cathedral that he has built and this altar that's there. And you know who else gets inspired incidentally by this altar? You can Google it and see it. An American president, he goes to Berlin and he goes to the same museum at Albert Spear, the architecturally. He sees the altar and he gets inspired somehow as though it would like haunts you or something be careful if you go to that music and he

says you know what I want to actually have this so he has one for his inauguration Barack Obama Google it the inauguration of Barack Obama he has a replica built from there and he makes a speech and so that's another president

that falls under this and he's not he wasn't very kind to Israel you know he created the Obama doctrine where he's like that's pull away from Israel and become more friends with the Islamic Republic of Iran. That's the Obama Doctrine. So that's another character. This is interesting that this thing keeps coming back, this throne, throughout the ages.

And every time it seems to target the people of God, it's to destroy temples, to make things obsolete. And so the Lord then tells us that there is going to be a final fulfillment. This is all going someplace, all the pieces of this puzzle, the Holy Land, the people, the spiritual forces, the empires, you know, the angels and their wars, the coming of the Lord and his armies, they're all going to come to it. So this time, once again, we're going to see that this man is going to come. And this is the son of perdition. And he is going to go into this temple. And the Lord says, when you see the abomination of desolation, and since Antioch, was from the house of Zeus, and he was of the same as this altar, you know, the spiritual

forces behind this altar. And the fact that the Romans came under Jupiter, and every time God sent a new light, God sent, he established the second time he sent its Holy Spirit. The third time when they gather against Jerusalem, I assume this is teaching us that the Antichrist will come from this power and principality, not from the Muslim world, actually. Because that the world is not part of this, Prince Valley. Comes, you know, when you look at, for instance, you know, the power of the air, well, this is something, is a piece of my book, that I'm going to reveal the power of the air. What is it that the Germans brought?

What is it that Berlin brought that changed the world? You know, there is a secret place where they created super advanced tech. What was super advanced tech? Well, rockets, rockets, yeah. Airplanes, jets, bombers, stealth bombers. I mean, the stuff you know, I've seen the documentary suit. It's incredible. It's mind-boggling the power of the air.

That's Eagles Town. That's what the West, that's what from Moscow to D.C. separates it from the empires of the Middle East. It's the power. Not the sea, not the earth, air. Who was building the rocket ships? Well, you know, it was, the rocket ships didn't start in Indonesia or Saudi Arabia or Egypt, right? they started in this place.

This is the air, the control of the air. Because we know that the second heaven is the universe. The third heaven is where the temple of the Lord is. So when you're sending a rocket, you're not standing it into the space or into universe. You're standing into the second heaven. This is a war of angels. We're in the heavens

on the earth. They're preparing. You know, the technology is being prepared ultimately. So when these guys you know, surround Jerusalem, what is the answer of the Lord? What is the third light that he sends to the earth? His son and the armies of heaven. That is the response to the Lord. So there are three attacks from this principality.

The first one, the days of Antiochus Epiphanes, and that rededication of the temple and the continuation of God. Life is reignited. And in this state, it's remembered as a festival of light, the symbol of God's light. The second time, it attacks on the 9th of Avon, and destroys the temple, the same that the Babylonians,

God sends this Holy Spirit and changes the world and changes that principality and powers realm. The third time they attack under the power of the same Jupiter, from the same place where the altar is, this part of the world, with the same leader who is to see and receives, you know, I have a, you can Google this. If you like the SEPTRA, I have a show called the Septer of Endl,

where I do the story of the passing down on the scepter, all the way to where it says in the book of Revelation, that the dragon gave, you know, power to the beast. He is the one that gives his power and authority to the beast. It says that in the book of Revelation. So when that happens on these guys attack, one last time, the city of Jerusalem, go to Zacharia chapter 14 because this is a very important chapter it dispels the whole idea of oh what did it is it really going to happen again or not it describes in such great detail things that have never happened it says here behold a day of the lord is coming when your plunder will be divided in your midst i will gather all the nations gives jerusalem to wage war i will gather all the nations gave jerusalem to wage war i will gather all the nations gave

Jerusalem. So God is going to remove something evil from the earth by judging it and freeing everybody from it. But this is how, this is the process of it. It comes to the surface and it gets judged. The city shall be captured. The houses ransacked and the woman ravished. Now, this is something that recently happened in Israel. Houses were ransacked, women were raped. Half the city will be exile, but the remainder of the people will not be cut off from the city. And that's interesting because Jerusalem is divided the east and west, and east Jerusalem is where the Muslim population, the Arab population lives, and it's very contentious to East Jerusalem. Then the Lord will go forth and fight against those nations as he fought in the day of battle.

In that day, his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which lies the east of Jerusalem. And it's interesting because the Mount of Olives is where he ascended in the Book of... So he ascends from the Mount of Olives, and then he descends there. You know, he comes back there. So, man, if you go, the first time I went, I've been to Jerusalem twice. And the first time I went there, when we got to Jerusalem, I was in his hotel, was a little bit away from the city center and had a large deck. And I'd go there every day and I'd look out of the city and I could see the dome of the rock so close

so you could touch it. And I would see this mountain. It was only the last night that I was there that I realized once I started to know my way around, that that was the amount of olives that I was looking at all this time. that's, you know, yeah. So I called the Mount of Dissension in my head. People call the Mount of Ascension. I call the Mount of Dissension because that's where he's going to come back.

And then he goes on and creates an earthquake and all that stuff. Then there is a plague with which the Lord will strike all the people that wage war against Jerusalem. It talks about a massive earthquake, by the way, huge earthquake that I don't want to get into. But you read it, has this ever happened before? No. Now, this is the plague with which the Lord will strike all the people that wage war against Jerusalem, Their flesh will rot while they are standing on their feet. Their eyes will rot in their sockets and their tongues will rot in their mouths.

Is this a nuclear blast? Is there technology in this work? It will happen in that day that a great panic from it, I don't mean nuclear core unquote, right? I mean, something that uses God's creation. It will happen in that day the great panic from the Lord will be among them. And then it says, then all the survivors from all the nations that attacked your Jerusalem will go from year to year to worship the king, the Lord of hosts, and to celebrate the feast of Tabernacle.

So let me repeat that all the survivors from all the nations that attack Jerusalem will go year after year to worship the king, the Lord of hosts, on the Feast of Tavernacle, the feast of Sukkot. And it's interesting because it was the eighth day of this feast, which is the most of the most solemn of the days is the day that Hamas attacked Israel on October 7th. It was on Sukkot, on if day, precisely. And it's interesting because this prophecy also happens around that time, and it talks about ransacks and rapes and contention. It was on this day. So there's a pattern again, as we're talking about, the cycles and patterns. If any of the nations on earth do not go

up to Jerusalem to worship the king, the lord of hosts, and the word in Hebrew, Adonites' vat, heaven's armies, literally translated, the Lord of Heaven's armies. If anyone of the nation doesn't go to worship on the day of tabernacle, they'll have no rain. It's a sign of blessing. If the Egyptians do not go and celebrate, they will have no rain, etc. So instead there will be the plague that the Lord will inflict on the nations that do not go up to celebrate Sukat or Tabernacle. This is the beginning of the kingdom. You know, it's the last of the appointed days of God.

God, Passover in the spring is the first, and that's when the story of Israel began in Exodus. And it ends on the Feast of Tabernacle with the establishment of the Messianic Kingdom. So history itself follows the pattern of the appointed days from spring to the fall. History itself is moving forward like a spiral, as somehow these appointed days are, you know, carrying out the message and marking in God's prophetic calendar important days when the Messiah, for instance was crucified was Passover. He was in the tomb during the Feast of Unleavened bread. In back on the Feast of First Fruits, three of the appointed days of God. Then the Holy Spirit descended on the Pentecost, another one of God has appointed days. So this appointed day is the last

in the cycle and marks the beginning of the Mesaan kingdom. So the history of Israel literally goes from Exodus 3,000 years ago. Passover, Exodus begins the history of Israel and it ends in the promised land in our future at some time on the feast of tabernacle the last of the appointed days the history of israel is moving forward according to cycle of these feasts and so this particular event where they gather the nations gather against jerusalem where this man goes in the temple that will be built there i assume and declares himself above all that is he sells himself god yeah And this is, and there's some people say, is it literal, like is it like maybe that we are now the temple, the church? And so it's a spiritual thing like like a false Christianity. Well, for me, the way that it works is that since Israel has returned to a land and the land has come back to life, what has happened is that the church has gone forward exponentially in revelation. We have come to life as well, like the land. We have suddenly come. to know about all of these things that people before us didn't know. And this is the last passage

I'm going to read. It's from Romans chapter 11. So it's 11.15. It says here, for the, for if their rejection leads to the reconciliation of the world, the Lord blinded the Jewish people, in part, as Paul says, so that the Gentiles would receive the Messiah and enter the kingdom, and then they would come back and join everybody. For if their rejection leads to the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? Paul says. So when they'll be even a greater blessing to us, as they spiritually come back, the valley of dry bones. First you have the bones, then you have the breath. So you have the bones that are in place. I was watching this documentary, these orthodox women taught in Judean,

Sumaria, which is called the West Bank. They were building these towns. And they said, know it feels so right to be here, even though it's very contentious politically. And then suddenly she said, you know, it's like the valley of dried bones. It says though the bones are being clicked together, which is these towns. And then, you know, the breath of God will come over us. Like she said that, you know, she, so they're thinking these things as they're living out this, right? So the whole idea, there's always been war. You know, the first time the Jewish people came there, there was of people there, they fought against the giants. They destroyed the city, right? And so that was the first time they came. The second time they came there was very contentious. All these enemies

were stopping them from building the temple and reestablishing the city because the enemy is always trying to push things down. So the work of God doesn't go forward, right? So this time again, you have the house of the crescent of the moon. There is the prince of Persia, I believe, that's rising right now with Iran. There is this entity from the west. coming, which is going to have the son of perdition, when this one comes and attacks and forms this war that Zachary 14 is talking about, where all the nations gather against Jerusalem, that is when the father will send his son. And this will be the third response to this power and principality's outrageous attack against, you know, the will of God. The first time God send

the light, the second time he send the Holy Spirit. And the third time, he will send the greatest of all the lights. He will send his son and the armies of heaven to establish a new kingdom and new age and to bring about what Zechari 14 says, and all the nations will come and worship the Son of God on the feast of tabernacle. You know, we are told that if you believe in him now, you will be resurrected if you're dead. You know, when Paul says that when the Jewish people come full faith and understand this, there'll be life from the dead for the Gentiles. Maybe it corresponds to the moment of the rapture, maybe. That maybe literally life from the dead, that did come back to life,

and that corresponds to the moment where the fullness of Israel comes in. Who knows? But will that be it? But this is going to be something great. Maybe it's literal, I'm saying. So when it happens, if you believe in the Lord now, you get a place in that government, kingdom, as a royal priest. And I think that if earth is the incubation chamber of the immortal children of God,

with whom God wants to have an intimate love relationship as his children and groom them and teach them to become his image bearers and bring his teachings to the creation. But through a love relationship, then at this moment, when you receive the Lord and you receive the Holy Spirit, you are born again, you're rejuvenate, but you're a baby. As you drink the milk of the scripture, every relationship with God, you start to grow. But when the Lord comes and get your new body, because we're promised a new body like the one he had when he came back from the dead, we are of the world of God and angel, and we have this cosmic destiny. Then I think you enter your teenage years. And now you serve in this kingdom. And you govern the world, much of the world that doesn't know the Lord passes through into the kingdom and lives and dies.

And is governed by those who have the life. and this is what that's why they have to come every year, year after year, apparently for a thousand years. And if you look into the book of Genesis, no one makes it to a thousand. Even Methuselah dies in his nine hundreds. And where thousand years is but a day to the Lord. So it seems that in the cosmic calendar, whatever planetary rotation, the temple of heaven uses the count time, a thousand years is a day. So no one lives one celestial day after the fall of that. But in this kingdom, we will live one celestial day.

It says we are healed. It's the Sabbath of history. And then we enter into the heavenly Jerusalem where we become adults. We go from our births, our spiritual births, to our teenage years to our adult years. And that's when the whole thing goes. But once again, we're told of the revelation that the enemy will rise, will be given the permission to rise. yet once again at the end of that kingdom. And the father comes and destroys him with fire,

and it's maybe a purifying, maybe the Lord even redeems him. I don't know. But it follows the same pattern that once again there's an attack and God sends yet even a greater light. So every time in your life, you may feel the adversary coming at you.

Rest assured that as you persevere, it will be followed by a greater revelation, a greater light, and a greater demonstration of the might and power God. This is the pattern God has shown us in history vis-à-vis this power and palate, his relationship with Jerusalem, going back to his throne to this abomination of desolation. And I think it also applies to our personal lives. That's how I've experienced it often myself. So this is the story of the throne of sacred and its manifestation throughout the ages. And really the Bible

is very much the tale of two thrones, you know. Yes, two kingdoms. Yeah. Kingdom. Two bloodlines. David's son and the bloodth means of the enemy and his attempt to create empires give it and to attack and destroy the things of God and the responses of God. And you know what's interesting when you see the God says that he will curse those who curse his people and bless those who bless the Abrahamic covenant. He puts a protection around them because they need it as they go through the story.

The word there for curse is different from the word curse anywhere in the Bible. It's a very long Hebrew word that I don't have in my mind, but it has in it embedded the word or, which means light. So the curse of God against the enemies of God is an enlightening curse. That's why it says those who come to, of the survivors who come against Jerusalem. What are the survivors of those who come against Jerusalem do? They go to worship the king. So they get enlightened. And so there's even today, as we see these religious armies, I mean, right now, the war in the Middle East,

is a very religious war that's happening, very different from the wars of the 20th century. If there is really an Islamic force gathering against Israel, and if they do somehow connect completely all of them, put all their differences away, and

connect and come to attack Israel and lose, they will be enlightened because they're not crazy, they're just deceived. They will realize all this time God was with Israel. That's how they're religious mind will understand their own defeat. So they might actually let go of those beliefs and the stronghold of this, you know, principality may weaken over them and they may turn to the

god of gods and to the worship of the Lord. So it might be a healing thing and it may remove a great evil. We shouldn't always be afraid. I think we have very cushy lives here. But the Lord, there's a time for peace and a time for war, and he created calamities as well. So these things are part of life. Thanks, Holly. Holly. We traversed thousands of years of history today, and I think it's such an important way to look at scripture, and also just to look at the empires and look back at history, because it's always, you know, it's always easier to look back and see what's happened, much more than we can look ahead, even though we have, you know, God has given us the keys to look ahead, but I think it's just, it's fascinating to look at the strategy of the enemy, because it isn't, nothing's new under the sun, as Solomon said, right? So it's a new mass, and it's the same strategy and it will continue to be the same strategy. And there's such a hope in the finality of it all, which I think is what we can hold on to as Christians, is that, you know, we do live a cushy life.

And it may not be that way for our lives as, you know, as they are. We don't know. But I do think that we can always rest in the fact that God is eternally faithful and he's written the end. And even the demons and the darkness know that it's coming, right? We talk about the demoniac at the tombs oftentimes. The point of time. And the demons, you know, saying, it's not the time right. Not the point of time, right?

And Jesus is like, it's not. But you're still going to go in these pig bodies, you know, because I'm in charge. Yeah. But no, I love it, brother. It's always amazing to sit and listen. I mean, everything from your testimony and, you know, the discussion of UFOs to unwrapping the, you know, the throne of Zeus and throne of Satan at Pergamum. You're grateful and grateful for your friendship.

and for what you've done for the show and excited to do, you know, a part three. I know we've talked about that at some point, so we'll tease that now. But as always, we want to let people give you a chance to let people know things you're working on, where they can interact with you, where they can find the dock,

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and you want to receive that. There is lots of revelation coming from the Lord to this generation, and the Bible has a building block. There's a way that the knowledge that's in the Bible clicks together, and you want to kind of be informed about what that building block is. As we go into the age of deception, if this is going to be the age of Antiochus Epiphanes, then darkness fills the land, right? They get confused.

And so the light of God has to shine. all the brighter as we go back into paganism and as we have all these machinery of deception, whether it's social media, the news cycle. No one really knows what's true anymore. AI coming, you know, you can make things that look real. So you don't really know. So the word of God is going to be even more precious than ever before. So to really have that rooting and then grounding the Word of God and understand what it says

so that you can, you know, we live through this. I think God will prosper his people. and bless his people and guide his people throughout this. I'm not scared in that sense. I don't have to do and gloom perspective of it. I feel empowered and led by the Lord through it all. So join me on this journey and we will learn together. Thanks, Sally.

And you'll be able to appreciate to see your meme game too. We'll check out. See what kind of memes you're dropping on Twitter. We'll have to take a look. We have to practice that. You know what? Hey, you're in the ring with a champ right now. Nate, Dr. Meme, the old Nate Henry.

He's pretty easy. I try. When I have to take some note. Yeah, you might, yeah, you might know a guy. Yeah. Thanks, Sally. Well, appreciate it, brother. We'll be in contact and we'll let you know when this is coming out.

And we'll give you a heads up. And then we'll just, yeah, as we said before, like, stay in touch and let us know what's, what's going on. And we'll connect on that. Yeah. Thanks, brother. Yeah. Great to see you, man. It's you too.

All right. Thank you.