Blurry Creatures - EP: 221 The Red Heifer with Faith and Friction

Episode Date: February 16, 2024

We welcome Faith and Friction to dive deep into the ancient and enigmatic prophecy of the Red Heifer in our latest episode. We explore the significance of this obscure yet profound prediction, its origins in Biblical scripture, and its relevance in contemporary religious discourse. From its symbolic representation of purity and atonement to its potential implications for eschatological beliefs, this episode unveils layers of meaning that continue to intrigue scholars. Support the show! www.blurrycreatures.com/members Intro Song: Dreamkid83 Socials instagram.com/blurrycreatures facebook.com/blurrycreatures twitter.com/blurrycreatures Music Kyle Monroe: tinytaperoom.com Aaron Green: https://www.instagram.com/aaronkgreen/ Outro Song: TimeCop1983: timecop1983.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Well, with the Dead Sea Scrolls, they found a lot of other scrolls and artifacts. And one of the scrolls that they found that's on public display now is called the Copper Scroll. I'm sure you've heard this on some of your other situation, but it's a treasure map. And the copper scrolls talk about the ashes of the previous Red Heifer. Now, once again, this ash that they keep are a mixture of all. nine previously. So you go all the way back to Moses, his red heifer, all mixed with these. And the Copper Scrolls said that the ashes of the previous Red Heifers were buried in the same cave area with the Copper Scroll. The history of our Earth is so different from what we

can imagine. Joy to join. The Smithsonian, that if they found out about a large skeleton somewhere, was to go get it. I'm going to assume at least one person is right, because if one person's right and bust the paradigm, it all goes back to the fallen chair. And the problem with the modern day church, they have a very truncated view of the supernatural. This backdrop is just pregnant with all kinds of meaning associated with this Mount Herman event. And this guy defects from the kingdom. That's a big deal.

All right, well, we'll just hop into the podcast. Gentlemen, welcome to blurry creatures. Why don't you introduce yourselves to our guests? I think what Luke and I try to capture sometimes is we don't, you know, sometimes we like to have a refreshing conversation where we don't really know what's going to happen. And so we try to be in the seat of the listener, right? So some of our guests, like we, they talk about Bigfoot or they talk about giants or they talk about things that we've talked about a lot.

So we have a little bit of frame of reference to know where the conversation is going to go. But you guys are going to take us somewhere we haven't been before. So welcome to the podcast. introduce yourselves and what are your thoughts on Bigfoot? Hey. Man, well, I'm Chi Chi out here in North Texas, Fort Worth, to be exact. And Bigfoot is definitely a thing. It's real.

There's another name for Bigfoot and Bigfoot, which y'all have talked about a lot. And it starts with the end and rhymes with Ephelim. So I can take it. But, yeah, I think Bigfoot out there. I feel like there's too much stuff that people have seen and done and captured to just be like, no, this isn't a thing. And so the search continues. Yeah, my name's Jason McKay.

And we are from Texas. And Chi and I have known each other for a long time. Yeah. I know I don't look old, but I was his youth pastor, believe it or not. So it's just that new appearance. But yeah, man, go ahead. No, I was going to say, it's tough. Well, you didn't have a goatee.

You know, so I just couldn't nail, nail you with youth pastor right away. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, I always figure guys would go tees, you know, and this is not meant to offend anyone, but it's either you're a leaf pitcher or you're a youth pastor. So. Yeah. Exactly.

Yeah. Yes. Well, we, I'm going to say about the Bigfoot thing. I mean, first of all, I would love to ask you guys questions at another time. Why is every video Bigfoot blurry? I mean, I get the blurry creatures, but I'm like, we need some crisp ones. I've been looking at some of your posts lately. And I'm like, man, somebody get them an iPhone 14 and take some video of this thing.

But man, I definitely agree with Chia, dude. Like, we're kind of willing to go there today. We call them Nephys, the nephews of the world. So I definitely think there's a reality to it, man. And you guys hit on some really good things. So hopefully we don't take it somewhere where you guys have never gone before, but we're going to just jump into it, man. So hopefully we're glad to be here.

Take it somewhere that you've never gone. We want to scare them. Come on. Let's go. I think we're crazy. That's the idea. And so this whole thing came together for those listening. I met Chi Chi and his wife, my wife, and we were all at the conference in South Georgia early this year.

And we kind of hit it off. And Chi Chi really undersold himself here. Because this is the, Cheecher the guy I know. But you're a musician. You have an online marketing company. You're starting to do some media things in a podcast form. You're working with Jesus culture. I'm just going to brag on you for a second because you're doing.

really cool things. I appreciate it. This conversation that we're going to get into, it just kind of came out of us talking, just talking about what's been going on in our lives. And, you know, as Nate said, we get into places that we haven't been before. Now, this will be an unfamiliar sort of topic for us.

We've talked a bit about end times and eschatology, and everybody has different views. In fact, the church likes to fight itself and eat itself when it comes to topics on eschatology. But there are some very fascinating signposts, and signs according to the biblical narrative. And what we do do do is talk about do do. There's the jokes we go with, right?

But what we do on this show is, you try to talk about all the things that are strange or weird or blurry is really become the vernacular through a biblical lens. And so, you know, we're making good points, talking about all the photos of Bigfoot being blurry. Can't figure that one out. Mitch Hedberg has an idea. Maybe maybe he is, maybe the he or she, Bigfoot is just actually blurry in general. therefore the original blurry creature right he's you know he's he's he's he's eight bit just all for the samtando 80s stuff right so he likes to be that way but get us into what we're going to talk about today because this is a uh you both have really been on the forefront of

some really interesting things when it comes to biblical prophecy and you know for context for our listeners would love to have you kind of take us back to the beat to sort of the beginning of the story but but let's dive in and break into into what y'all been working on when it comes to this yeah cool so um yeah real quick just on a background since um like jason said earlier known them for about 13 years now and it was interesting it's a more common conversation now you'll hear people talk about like in time stuff biblical prophecy stuff and i remember year one of being jason was my youth pastor for about a year year before transitions happened. And year one, nobody else, I'm a teenager. And it's like, we're doing an end of the world series, much of other teenagers. And so it's like, I was like,

man, why are we talking about this? Is this relevant? Is this important? Like, what's going on? And then I remember we were blurry before blurry was. You know, like, it's right. And so, yeah, and I remember just really being interested in that stuff and almost like feeling called to that. And before any of the stuff that we're going to get into, even began to transpire just like, man, like, I want to know more about all of this stuff. And then hearing Jason talk about some of these things to be like, oh, man, you've been, and I'll let him explain it in a second,

but you've been like called to do some of this stuff. And you're actually in this and pursuing this and praying about this kind of stuff. And I was just like, man, I want to be like that. I want to be able to have that understand and have that. knowledge and stuff. And so I'll let you kind of talk about the context and the background. And then we'll kind of get into a timeline of these end times things because there's a lot of biblical stuff that points to some certainties even that some people may not be aware of. So yeah. Well, it's funny you say, I mean, the last few years things have changed because, man,

it was like weird. You were like in a small group of society of conspiracy theorists, just talking about the last days, even in the church. I mean, it's just not a popular subject even today on Sunday mornings. So I just remember like when COVID and that whole thing hit and the world changed, it's like all of a sudden everybody was aware that there's more going on to this world than just what we see. And just people's perspectives opened up. I mean, I think that's when really, at least in the church, I think the church realized that we really could be in the last days. And the Bible doesn't leave to guesswork, you know, so we know exactly. And I'll show in a second that, I mean, Jesus said we're supposed to know.

It's the last days. And so I think that gives us perspective. So, yeah, man, I mean, we're on blurry creatures, huge fan, but we're going to talk about the blurry future today. And I try to bring some clarity that too. So we're going to just go into it, man. So if y'all, I mean, I'll just say a few things of how we started, man. And like, I mean, how this came about.

And then if y'all just, hey, just shoot. If you have any questions, I don't want to lose people here. But, man, it started, you know, I would say. seven years ago, I was reunited with pastor of mine. That was a pastor when I was a child. And he, we'll just call him the blurry prophet today. And he really is, though, man, just like, I mean, just if there's ever like, if you can picture a modern day biblical prophet, you know, an Elijah type prophet, I would say he's one of them. And he's really one of the leading voices, you know, in prophecy and just things in the end time. So I grew up in that. And then, of course,

I went off and did things and, you know, went to college and graduated Bible school and I reunited with them. And so I find myself at dinner. It's the craziest moment of my life. I'm at dinner at Glen Beck Studios. They're having some benefit thing, Israel type deal. And I got invited. I'm there. And I'm sitting next to, his name is Pastor Robert Mowary, our blurry prophet there. And I'm sitting next to him. And on the other side of me is the closest thing to a modern day like real Indiana Jones, man. like a biblical archaeologist that is literally living. I mean, that was my favorite. Indiana Jones is like at the top of my list of like movies, you know, just the whole

trilogy to 80s. And so I'm like, this is my hero. He's living it. Everything but the whip, man. So where I'm just sitting next to him and he starts telling me about just all of these discoveries and some things that maybe off air we can share, but I don't even think I should share on the air quite yet, but things that are about to even come out worldwide that are going to change the perspective and just shift a mentality of just the reality and the truth

of the biblical accuracy, just from a historical, archaeological perspective that they have discovered that's going to be coming out soon. That is a teaser. I know. I will say some. We'll say some of it. I'll tell you guys afterwards because I want to live after this next podcast. Yeah, we want to keep you around.

So, yeah, we can do that. We'll do it in the skiff. We'll do it in the skiff, right? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. So they just start talking and I'm just in between these two like geniuses and just like, and I would say I was like not in a season where I thought I would just label everybody conspiracy theorists at that point. You know, it's like now I'm on the other side of things. But I was like, man, this is a little extreme. And then hearing stories of like just some of the things that even my pastor, you know, had experienced thought, man, this is a this is a different. I don't know how I ended up here, but. you know, let's just go with it. So we start talking about all of it. And man, it just started sparking thoughts and conversations that I just started having with people. And then things are starting to prove the word of God is true. We know that. But man, like the news is now backing up prophecy. You can watch the news and I can show you in scripture. I've done it on Sunday mornings

even where it's like this is exactly what the Bible says is going to happen. Like it's not guesswork or hope anymore. And so I just kind of man like this is where we start. with everything. I've been to Israel many times. This is where a lot of the archaeological things are going on. I mean like treasure maps. I mean, just things that you're like really Solomon's treasure, the third temple, hidden stuff. And I'm like, man. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. We got a knit cage reference too. All right. So not Conair Nick Cage, right? This is. Okay. Okay. Okay. The other one. For sure. Hey, man. Yeah, man. So, I mean, like, man, we're on the brink of the whole world shifting right now. God's word is ahead of the game.

And so I just, man, like a lot of people who are saved, called themselves Christians, maybe growing up in church, the main thing we hear all the time is we're not, we don't know the day or the hour that he's coming. Oh yeah. The Bible says that. The biggest, yeah. You know, and they're like, why are y'all so worried about it?

We're not supposed to know that. Well, I mean, they're quoting Matthew 2436. It says we'll, you know, but of that day an hour, no one knows. Not even angels of heaven, but my father only. But if you look up the word day and hour in Greek, which the New Testament was written in, it means day and hour. So we don't know Tuesday, you know, at 9.37 a.m. Jesus is coming back or we'd all start a cult and, you know, have our little high fences and I'll be waiting at the moment. I think.

We get our hats. We get our tinfoil hats on, just wait for it. Yeah. You're ready. We didn't want to tell you we already had that cult, but we were going to wait for later. But, man, I think like if you knew, it's like if you knew the blueprint God had for your life when you were first born, we would all mess it up. because we try to get involved and fix it and, you know, make it happen. And so I think God is, I mean, even Jesus said he doesn't know. But if I can just jump to a scripture real quick, just so, you know, all of our listeners that are asking that question, in 1 Thessalonians 5, the Bible's talking about in verse 1, it says, concerning the times and seasons, brethren, you have no need that I should write you. Verse 2 says, for you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord comes as a thief in the night. for when they say peace and safety and then sudden destruction comes upon them as labor pains upon a pregnant woman they shall not escape and so everyone says look see right there we won't know it's a thief in the night but if you keep reading in verse four he says but you brethren so he's saying it comes upon them as a thief in the night but he says but you brethren are not in darkness so that this day should overtake you as a thief you're all sons of the light and sons of the day or not of night or of darkness so let us not sleep as they do but you're not sleep as they do

let us watch and be sober. So I think we have a biblical commandment to like be sober-minded and really watching like, are we in this time? And if so, what should we be doing? You know, like, how do we prepare ourselves for it? I mean, if I told you you're going to be in heaven tomorrow at 9 a.m., it would change the way you live the rest of the day. You know, we'd be done here. We'd be like, hey, it's you guys, but like wouldn't be looking at each other. Yeah. I got some things to do today. Yeah. Yeah. I think that just helps wake us up to that. And so, man, I actually, And here in a second, we're just going to go through the timeline. Like instead of like, let's demystify it.

Are we in the last days? Can you prove that it's the last days from scripture, which we can clearly? And then once we know that, it's like, okay, then what do we do? What now? I mean, I want to say you guys, just because I've been listening to your show and every since she met you and told me about you, I was like, man, let me check this out because it's right up my alley. And you guys are like, I think you're a strategic voice in this time.

If it really is the last days, you guys have a voice that. is waking people up to a reality that has been hidden for many generations. And I think it's time to wake people up this generation and say, look, I mean, the history channel is doing stuff now. You're seeing all these shows where it's like there's more to life than what we've known. And I think eventually it's going to point everyone to Jesus because they're going to go, wow, this supernatural stuff is real. It's not just a fairy tale.

And so thank you guys for just shining light. Right. Thank you. Yeah, thanks. Yeah, no, it's, it is interesting. This is, it's fascinating to see the timelines. kind of converge, right? I do, I do think you, you have a great point.

Like, everywhere you look there, and I would feel like there's a, there's a narrative. Right at the end, they talk about the great delusion. And it's, I think those that are in the light, if you're not awake to what's happening around us. And I guess why this is in a very important conversation as Christians is to at least understand, be awake to what the Bible says is coming, right? And I think there's, with anything like this, right? And I'm sure you guys get this as well, there's always a little sense of

skepticism like everybody thinks they're in the end times they thought john thought so you know 99 reasons jesus comes back in 99 right you have all these right right yeah what i'm excited about is looking at the at the markers right in scripture and seeing where you know where those are i know so yeah i'm not gonna well i'm not going to steal a near thunder there because i know that there are some very interesting things that have happened in the last 70 80 years too as well that are are important yeah well i was gonna say I went and saw Oppenheimer like two weeks ago and uh I really like you know just it's like a real film and we don't we don't get a lot of those movies that come out where they just it's like no cg i it's a film it's a story but uh I left the movie I mean it's it's pretty

dark movie obviously and it's it's kind of controversial um but just human beings have invented ways to destroy ourselves that we've never seen you know and That was 100 years ago, so almost 100 years ago. And where we are now, you know, so many things come across our plate, that it's like the technology is at the point where we could, you know, literally blow up the world. We can, there's all this hidden technology that's gotten better. And it's like, even if Christians are skeptical, this is the end times, the average human being is going to have access to some of these technologies in the next decade or two. and what's going to hold all this together? It's beyond, to me, like, sometimes even a theological discussion, that technology is so far

advanced now that it's going to be in the hands of so many people. And I often wonder, like, yeah, even if you're skeptical of the Bible, the biblical narrative, you have to confront this technological underpinning that it's beneath all of us that's forcing the conversation onto the table, that either angels, are protecting us from this technology because we're there. This conversation has to happen. Transhumanism, AI, and sort of nuclear tech that's going to be in the hands of everyone. So anyway, it's been in my mind a lot lately that there are a lot of skeptics and a lot of, we have a mixed audience, people who are super Christian, been Christian in their whole life,

and then a lot of people who aren't, but sort of this Trojan horse of Bigfoot's kind of got them into our podcast. You know? So I think yeah. Well, I was saying, I think I think it's cool that kind of like you are alluding to now that we're in a time in the world where there is so many chaotic things happening and you're seeing things and you're seeing things that you used to only see on movies that

are now being played out in real life that even if you aren't, you know, Christian or or believe biblically, even those people are now starting to ask questions of. like, man, what in the world is happening right now? Where are we headed? Where is this going? And so it's cool. Some of the stuff, even that we'll talk about today, it's cool to be like, man, I know that from your point of view, you know, it's like, man, what is this man written book from

thousands of years ago? But then as you start dissecting and unpacking some of that stuff, it's like, oh, it actually addresses a lot of this stuff that's about to happen. And, you know, whether you initially believed it or not, it's something that, a lot of people that we've even seen that don't necessarily believe it are at the very least wanting to just listen and see, okay, well, I'll hear what you have to say because I don't know how to make sense of all the stuff that's happening. So, yeah. Yeah. I would add one thing to that and just say like, dude, you know, you talk about this book, right? And, you know, we try to, as Nate

said, regardless of the where anyone in our audience is at, I think our goal is ultimately to point people back to Jesus, right? And we're talking about prophecy today. And I always It's always fascinating to remind even myself that that Jesus fulfilled himself, the person of Jesus, God incarnate, fulfilled more than 324 individual prophecies in his life, right? And the odds on that are borderline impossible. You can't, it's a whole lot of zeros followed by more zeros. And so that, that in and of itself, right,

thinking about how does that even happen? You can't, you know, writing, you can't write these backwards because the historical record pre-existent. We can pull the Dead Sea Scrolls and see the things that are already there before this. And I love that because not only is it credence to the Word of God, but it's also like, if that's true, then perhaps we should really pay attention to what this book is saying. I'm very analytical too, and it's like, man, I looked at scripture and there's a season of my life, like, is this true?

And if you just look at it, I mean, just on surface level, no face. just on a natural perspective, like you're saying, the odds of some of these. Like, we're going to talk in a second. The Bible prophesied exact dates. And the history shows us it happened at the exact time. A prophet like Daniel, for example, said 700 years earlier, the exact moment Jesus will be crucified in the Bible to the exact day. And then it happened 700 years later. So it's like, how do you?

I mean, you just start seeing this pattern where it's like, man. And then the Bible talks about, you know, oh, the mark of the beast. And it was all the weird Christians of the 90s that watched left behind. And, you know, we all thought it was supposed to be folded when we got. Come on. Kurt Cameron, baby. Let's go. Yeah, now you got cryptocurrency. And we got everything.

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And I think in the church too, there's a lot of, you know, I'm a pastor as well. And there's a lot of people in the church that would say, well, I believe in the Word of God. And it's true. I believe Jesus is coming back. But we're going to be raptured out before all this. Anyway, so why does it matter? Why should we talk about it?

We're not going to be here. And I would say the Bible tells us the exact opposite that we will be raptured after a lot of this and not before. And if you see yourself as living in a strategic time, then, man, it just makes your every day more valuable when you know that we are on the verge of an entire shift in the world. And like you were saying, we could destroy the earth tomorrow, you know, just with the technology we have. And the public learns about that technology behind the curve. So like what we think we have now, it's like, you know, I remember the SR 71 Blackbird was invented and breaking the speed of sound. I mean, it was like 20 years later before we actually knew it existed. Where are we now with that technology that we have no idea?

And that's something, that's a big conversation we have on the show is that like this stuff's flying around. It crashes. We've reverse engineered a lot of it. And even if you're skeptical, even if you're skeptical about the UFO, phone narrative and an alien narrative it's like oh it's all sciops it's all government stuff well where do the government get it from you know where does the government how does the government have this technology that seems to defy the law of physics and you know and it always goes back to okay there is this origin point where we got technology we got understanding we got we were given these keys

to destroy ourselves from a different realm and humans aren't very original and i think i think one thing that I see in the future coming, gentlemen, I don't know if this is where you're going to go with things, but the ancient world is very much humans were enslaved. You know, we were enslaved to these demigods, these hybrids, these Nephilim-type dynasties. And I think AI and technology, it's going to enslave us again, but it's a little different. It just looks a little different. But I still think that the goal is to enslave humanity like it was in the golden age. The new age, the new world order is the new golden age, is what we've heard a lot on our show. Is that kind of how you see it or is it different? No, I do. I mean, people always say history repeats

itself and it's, I mean, it's like, I mean, as coming as a Christian and a believer, it's like the enemy, you know, Satan has, he has a strategy, he's had thousands of years to perfect it, and he is still on track with his original strategy. I mean, we know the flood slowed him down a lot and, you know, even at the Tower of Babel and God confused their language. I mean, you want to talk about some really deep subject of Nimrod, you know, but it's like his contendous. He's continually trying to, it's a seed war. He's continually trying to do the same thing over and over. And man, if you just look at history, you're like, it's happening again right now.

He's not kind of anything new. And the scripture, I love it because it always backs up and proves all those too, man. It's like, we don't have to be left to death with it. Yeah, I think, no, to answer your question, Nathan, I do think we're, think we're there already. You see, you know, you're reading about watchers or you're talking Book of Enoch type stuff. to where it's like, man, it's written there that these watchers or fallen angels or Nephilim came and gave these technologies and taught things that we didn't know, you know, in ancient times or people across the world are still trying to explain pyramids and structures and different

things and the intricacies of those things. And it's like most people would agree it's some kind of phenom, if you would. But I think that we're still in that space right now and there's still those things influencing stuff and technology today. Obviously, it's just easier to be hidden or kept in a gray area or blurry area and seeing how those things will kind of start to unfold and we're getting to see those things unfold right as we're just living in today. But can we get into this end times timeline though? Hey.

Yeah. Let me get into the end time. Let me blur this a little bit. Okay. You mentioned AI. You know, there's nothing new under the sun. and AI is pretty clear, in my opinion, in biblical prophecy. Actually, the book of Revelation talks about AI technology.

And so maybe we'll hit on that a little bit too because it's like, man, like, for those that are questioning, like, is the Bible true? You're going to see in a moment that the, just like you were saying, Luke, the chances of this happening are too far and too impossible. So, yeah, so I'll just kind of. So I know we're going to be. So if we're talking about red heifer stuff today, let's just say the timeline is here. And if red heifers are like here, take us before that, I guess, and maybe then after that. Yeah. Okay.

And we'll meet at that point. Hey, this is, this is it, right? Like, we've kind of been cloak and dagger, but this episode has a lot to do with, with, with unblemished cows. Yeah, let's get it. Let's talk about these cows. What do you, red cows have to do? You guys are in Texas, red cows, baby. So lay it on us here.

Okay. So I mean, just for those that are listening that are, you know, in the church or believers or Christians, you know, just real quick about the rapture because I think it's important that we all recognize if we're in the last days, you know, that it's important that we know this because like I said, a lot of people say, well, we'll be raptured out before then. We'll be in heaven. It doesn't matter. But I'll just read a couple scriptures to just prove that quickly.

First Thessalonians chapter four. Paul is talking about the coming of the Lord, the last days. And in verse 15, he says, for this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means proceed those who are asleep. Verse 16 says, for the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. And then those of us that are alive and remain will be caught up together in the clouds to meet the Lord. And, man, you hear a lot of, you know, prophecy teachers and biblical teachers saying, well, that's the rapture, you know, when the Lord comes.

Well, that word coming of the Lord in verse 15 is a Greek word that's Perugia. And so Paul's saying, when the Lord comes, it's going to be with a trumpet and then we're going to meet him in the air. And this is the, what many Christians would say, this is the last days, the second return of Christ. but if you read in Second Thessalonians, just a book over in Chapter 2, he talks, he picks up here again, and this is where we're kind of coming to our generation. This is where we're getting to the news of today. Second Thessalonians chapter 2, verse 1 through 4 says, now brethren. So same writer here, he's talking about, and he says, concerning the coming or Perugia of the Lord Jesus Christ

and are gathering together with him, because we're going to meet him in the air, not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled either by spirit word or letter as from us as though the day of Christ had already come let no one deceive you by any means for that day what day the second return of Christ the very end will not come unless the falling away comes first and the man of sin is revealed and that's your 1990s in times Christians and movies the antichrist if you will the whole you know picture of of the Antichrist coming as a false Messiah and deceiving the entire world. And the Bible says, Jesus won't come back for the church. We won't meet him in the air until the Antichrist stands, it says, or sits, excuse me, verse four, in the temple of God showing himself to be God. So if you take the word of God as true, then it says here, which I do, that the Antichrist is going to come before Jesus comes.

He's going to sit in the temple of God and claim to be God. well, how is he going to sit in the temple of God if there is no temple? And right now there is no temple. So you say, you know, people have said for thousands of years. Well, yeah, you know, Peter said that. We see all in scripture. You know, I'm an 80s guy. So 1988, 88, 88 reasons Jesus is coming in 1988.

That was the book, right? You know, they had 11 more for 99. They had 11 more for 99. But you know, the same author actually updated it like four times. I think he actually came out with like a 99. and then, yeah, and then he died. Then he didn't roll it over, though, into like one reason in, in 01, right?

I mean, that's when it starts to get easy. You start getting the buck is a little shorter. Yeah, it's just, let's make it broad. One reason, Jesus is coming back soon. In the future. Yeah. It's kind of like that. Dude, I love that we all live through that.

That's amazing because, oh, dude, there's nothing. I remember like Y2K thinking like, man, this is it. Like, this is it, man. The computers are all going to rebel against us, man, and reset. Oh, grid's going down. Remember those days?

Hell yeah, man. I know people have moved to the wilderness. So do I. Yeah, I had friends at home. Yeah, went and lived on a mountain because they... That's kind of why I said what I said a little while ago, because we have a lot of listeners from all different types of camps, you know. We've got a big Catholic fan base, a big Mormon fan base, paranormal podcast fan base, all these different types of people listen to our show. And I think Luke and I are a little overwhelmed at times

because we're damned if we do, we're damned if we don't. We say something. We're in trouble. We don't say something. were in trouble. And I don't, we didn't anticipate to have this kind of diverse audience, but I'm trying to tell people like transhumanism is coming. And this technology is in our hands, like you said, what we had, you know, 100 years ago and what we have now, we hear rumblings of it. Everything's culminating to something. And it's, it's sort of a, a technological nightmare that is kind of around the corner. And I just, I just want to speak to some of those

people because I think a lot of people are, they're still skeptical of the Bible, it's still skeptical of God's word, even though they listen to our show. We have sort of an interesting fan base, but I just want to let them know, like, you know, when you peer behind the curtain and you realize you have to confront some of these issues, and if the Bible is giving you a framework to make sense of all this, well, then it only helps you understand that it's more true than, it's more true than just us saying it's true, you know? It's a truth that sort of supersedes everything that we know, the framework of reality. And that's kind of what I, I think, what we try to filter our show through.

So just saying that. Well, hindsight is, 2020? And so, like, for example, you know, is the Bible true? You look at Revelation 13 talks about the mark of the beast. Everybody will have this mark. They can't buy or sell, you know, unless they have the mark. And for generations, that just seemed like a weird, extreme, you know, thought. But now with the digital ID, what is it, 2030 or something, they're trying to,

You know, there's a mark. And I mean, I saw video of people in Sweden paying with their hand. And you're like, it sure does have a lot of parallels. If someone were to be looking at like, if I don't believe it's true, it sure is given a framework that seems to be lining up. We haven't proven it's not true. So today I just want to add a little bit more to that to those skeptics that might say, yeah, but what else? You know, like that's a far stretch. You said this place was steps from the water.

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is that we live in a time where the technology exists for these things to be a reality, right? At the time of the Roman Empire, I guess you could have tattooed everybody on their forehead and hand and tried to enforce that, but you wouldn't have, it wouldn't have worked with the Visigoths

and it wouldn't have worked in these different places because you're still dealing with tribal cultures that wouldn't have, you know, and when the digital dollars come in, right? This is them that really pushing hard on. So then as everything becomes, you know, ones and zeros and binary numbers, then, dude, we can finally do this, right?

You can literally answer any question at your fingertips, like your God almost, with Google now. That is a phenomenon we never talk about. Just think about what is that bug? What is this fish? What does, how long should I boil chicken? All these things that would have, you know, you would have had to look up or have a book

or had somebody older tell you, almost anything now. And you can also talk to anyone, almost anyone, on the planet at any given time. It's almost this like, omniscience, this false omniscience and false omnipresence as well. Like you can know all, you can kind of know all things, let's set your fingertips and kind of be everywhere,

which is these are all like really crazy normalized paradigms now that have never existed. I think allow, they've become a platform for a lot of these things that we're going to find. Nate, I cut you off there, yeah. I think the conversation is that technology is inventing itself. So it's no longer us manipulating the world to bring technology.

out. The technology is now writing itself. It's going sentient. It's going... Rise of the machines, bro. I've seen this movie. It is Terminator. Yeah. It's happening. And so, like, if we're thinking about, again, going back, or we're thinking about marks

of the beasts, Antichrist, temples, all the things, the stuff that, I mean, whether a believer or not, you've heard these terms, people toss them around and stuff and have been for years. And so even as, I mean, what we're talking about, what we're going to be talking about, even as you think about red heifer stuff, there's a, there's a event and things that almost have to happen in order,

not almost, it do have to happen in order. And so it's like, man, it's, is this the anti-crass? Is this the mark of the beast? Is this the thing? Is this where they're going to do this or that? And so that's what makes this the red heifer talk really cool and that those happenings because it's like man if scripture lays out these things here is essentially for today the the domino if you would that a lot of this stuff is kind of riding on and thanks for keeping us on track tc i'm hey i'm here i'm like let's talk about these efforts you're driving you're driving you're driving i got you're all ad i got the red heffrews you're not talking about what they called me in high school You know what?

Hey man, I just want you to know I see you. I love that. Just kidding. So for people watching or listening and even Luke, we talked and it was just like, man, I heard about it, not sure the relevance or what, you know, why it matters, if it matters. And some people listening may think like what red heifers, what even is that? What is there? What's the significance of a red cow when it comes to the end of the world? And so, yeah, I think there's, scripture says some awesome stuff about the history of sacrificing red heifers that led us up to what we actually have a firsthand account of biblical prophecy being fulfilled that we actually got to be a part of and go.

And so I don't know if you want to maybe talk about where scripture talks about it. Yeah, yeah. Can you all just remind me to talk about AI in the Bible later? because I have to say that, but I'm all of them. Okay. Now, what you're saying is the man of sin is going to sit in the temple. And so at this point in time right now, we're looking at the temple. Well, yeah.

Well, at this recording of this episode, there's no temple. There's a, the dome of the rock sits atop the temple mount in Israel. So there's no temple. So man of sin can't sit in there. Exactly. And everything climaxes and points to this temple. I mean, just not just in biblical prophecy in the world today. I mean, it's the most contested.

spot of land on the entire earth. Even if you're a doubter, you would say, why is this land that's so-called this God of Judaism, Christianity, this God of Abraham? Why is the entire world all infatuated with this one little piece of land? And even more than that, on top of this hill, if you will, where that dome of the rock is, where the temple was, it is, I mean, the most dramatic place on earth because there's so much friction on every nation between every religion. It's like, why is everyone,

I mean, just looking at the chances of that alone, point to some truth there. I thought you had something. So far, the Scientologists haven't laid claim to it. So, you know, when we see Tom Cruise out there and John Travolta and they're trying to claim that land,

then we know it's come a comfortable circle. Yeah, right, right. Got to love Tom. So, yeah, I mean, like, so this whole temple, so we're talking about the red herpers. There is, this temple, it can't just be built. Obviously, you have a political situation that has to happen, which is being, I mean, shifted around right now. I mean, even things to, you know, Jerusalem being declared by the United States, the most powerful country in the world, as the, where the embassy of the United States has been moved, we are now declaring that the capital of Israel.

I mean, whatever you believe about that, it lines up perfectly as a stepping stone for what has to proceed building this temple. I mean, all of this helps lay the groundwork for even a political shift that has to take place, not just a spiritual one. And so the book of Daniel is so accurate. And this is where we're going to have the math and the fun stuff here. And Daniel chapter 9 through 12, he literally has dates, timelines, and accuracy that cannot be debated because it's already history. And we're looking back hindsight 2020. And Daniel chapter 9 verses 24 through 26th, he actually tells the exact time that Jesus, the Messiah will come and he will be killed, crucified, and when it will happen.

Okay, so this is hundreds before Jesus came to the earth, 2,000 years ago. And in verse, actually verse 25 of Daniel 9, he says, no, therefore, and understand that from the going forth of the command or the decree to restore and build Jerusalem until the Messiah, the prince comes, there shall be seven weeks and 62 weeks. The street shall be built again, the wall, in troublesome time. And it says, and after the 62 weeks, so you have seven weeks, then you have 62. So after the 62 weeks, the Messiah shall be cut off, killed, crucified. He will die, is what he's saying, but not for himself, which for a believer, that's really cool.

Because we know Jesus didn't do it for himself, he did it for us. And so he's saying the Messiah is going to come in seven weeks and then 62 weeks. And these word weeks to not get too deep in Hebrew are the words for a certain type of year, the Shamita year is that word weeks and it means every seventh year so when he says we say weeks in English but he really said shamitas there's going to be seven and 62 that's every seven years so if you have 62 shamitas or seven then it's seven times seven that's years so seven shamitas if one is every seven years then it's 49 years until you can have seven of them so he's not talking about weeks like we see he's talking about years and if you have 69 weeks times seven this is the coolest

thing in the world he said the messiah will come 69 weeks of years and he will be cut off not for himself after a decree is made to rebuild jerusalem well arctic xerxes decreed this is history in 444 bc that the jews can now go back to jerusalem and and rebuild their temple this is because If we had one temple, the first temple of Solomon, and of course, that was destroyed. And then now he's saying, I'm going to decree that you're allowed now after Babylonian captivity to go build your second temple. And Daniel said it will be 69 weeks of years, which is 483 years after he says that Messiah will come and die. From 444 BC, 483 years is 33 AD, which is the time that Jesus died on the cross to the year. like this is history.

This is not hearsay. And so, I mean, what are the chances? So 33 AD is when Jesus died on the cross historically, which was exactly 483 years after that. So Daniel also said the second temple, that temple would also be destroyed, which it was in 70 AD. So if you believe the book of Daniel and you're an ancient Jew and you're reading this, then your Messiah, Daniel, the prophet said, is going to come when the second. temple to them it was yeah i mean it was coming is built and he will die before or he will be cut off before it is destroyed in 70 ad and so like he had to be executed before 70 ad so if you just look at it at face value it's like there is another sign that jesus is and was the messiah

and just because he fit he's the only one who fits that daniel chapter nine deal This is a Bose moment. Your 10 boring blocks from home until the beat drops in Bose clarity. And the baseline transforms boring into maybe the best part of your day. Your life deserves music. Your music deserves Bose. Find your perfect product at Bose.com. So everything's pointing to this temple and the temple is destroyed and now we're 2,000 years later.

And supposedly, if Bible prophecy is true, there has to be a third temple for the Antichrist. everything has to happen. So what is this timeline? And I've got just nine bullet points here in order that are easy for people to tell and just go, let's check these off the list. So as soon as these start getting checked in the next few years, if it's the end of times, then it will be exactly how the Bible said. And so like the first one is, Daniel 9 says there is a, and I'll save all the scriptures

because we'll be here for three hours. But there's going to be a peace accord sign by this antichrist, this false Messiah. And the third temple, they will resume sacrifices, the book of Daniel says. So he goes on to say, hey, there's going to be this temple in the future even after this time. And we're going to be sacrificing again in the land. And once that happens, the first sacrifice, the Bible says there's seven years left. That's the final week of Daniel. So every Christian on earth is like, well, those that agree with us, so not every Christian, maybe half of us.

Who knows? But we believe that, you know, once this, you know, is legal politically, there's a contract sign with all the nations, the Palestinians, everyone agrees to this. Then you have seven years, the Bible tells us, of the last base. And Christ, halfway through that seven years will stand in that temple, just like Daniel said, and claim to be God. And so that's what we see in Revelation too, right? You see the seven years. It's in Revelation. Yeah, all throughout scripture.

It's pretty well agreed upon in theologians. and eschatology. But none of that can happen, according to Numbers 19 and the Old Covenant, until the ashes of a perfect red heifer and red heifer sacrificed, and those ashes mixed with water are what purify the priesthood, the instruments used in the temple. So they haven't been able to build this temple all these years. You say, why are they waiting until now? Well, part of it is finding a perfect, biblically perfect red heifer is not an easy,

tasks. Actually, only nine in three thousand years have been found. Nine perfect red heifers. And an ancient rabbi named Amanides said this was kind of his prophecy, not a Christian, an Orthodox rabbi, over a thousand, right at a thousand years ago said, there's been nine red heppers because the last one, the ninth one was two thousand years ago for the second temple. So they could build that temple. And he said, when the tenth red heifer is found, he said, it will usher in the time of the Messiah's coming. And that's an Orthodox Jew rabbi. And of course, we've had nine. It's been a thousand years and there's still only been nine. And right now, there are three candidates. And we'll say here in a second that we were a part of helping

them find these red heifers. There were five, but there's three of them that are still qualifying to be this blameless red heifer. And we have less, we have about nine months until, Well, less than nine months until it's old enough. It has to be two years old, the Bible says, before they can use it as the sacrifice. And it's about a year and a half old, those three are a year and a half old. They're all from the same time. And we were there here in Texas when they got them. And they're planning if one of these three qualify in Passover of next year.

So this is Passover 2024 to have this sacrifice broadcast live around the world. and even the government of Israel is now involved because they said if this happens we're going to have millions of people coming to see this the security i mean there's so much planning that's already happening hoping that one of these three will be the 10th one in three thousand years a couple questions so how do you guys get involved and then what is the qualification process i know that there's a certain age that these things have to be to be in the sacrificial range but you know you're I'll let you guys answer the question. Yeah. For as qualifying, then how do you all get in, you know, two guys from Texas? Well, so it's funny. And obviously, Jason interject in Phil Gapston as we talk about it.

But even Luke, when we talked just that something that, especially if you're Christian, even if you're not, essentially will have a global impact in different ways, but affect 8 billion people or so. And the fact that these were found in North Texas, probably what an hour or so from where we are. And as Jason mentioned earlier, the guy, the blurry prophet, we call him, Robert Mowary, involved in a lot of awesome things

regarding Israel and regarding what God is doing here just on the earth in general. And so they had some rap, buys that were already on their way here in search of these red heifers. You know, we're going to go to a Red Angus farm. And then apparently the owner of the farm, the original farm they were going to go to, found out why they were coming and was like, you know what? I don't want to be involved in that.

I don't know what. I just maybe he thought they were just coming to get some good stakes or something. But he was like, you know what? I'm not trying to be a part of anything like weird or that I don't know about. And so, man, I don't know how many, it was days, though, but I don't know how many days. They were preparing on coming. I don't know if they were in route or not. I'm pretty sure they were.

And so there's a whole big thing had been playing. Yeah. And so there's these rabbis coming to essentially observe. And, you know, without mark or without blemish, a red heifer that's not tagged, completely red, like not one single white hair on it. And so they're coming to observe these, these red heifers and these red angus. And at this point, we don't have, there's not a farm. Like there's no, the person that was going to have it backed out.

Or like, who in the world has a Reda Angus farm that's able to do it? And so, Jason, your dad actually had a really good friend. Go ahead. Well, my, the guy was saying about earlier, the blurry prophet, he contacted me and said, hey, before the guy canceled the first. Yeah, yeah. And he said, hey, I want you to go with me. We're going to go meet these rabbis.

ranch in West Texas and they're coming to look for the Red Hepper. Of course, by this time, I'm all in. I'm like, are you kidding me? Like, I could be in the middle of like some in time, you know, prophecy or something. I said, yes, I'll be there. And so I was so fired up about that. I actually, of all people, I was, my dad and I like to play golf together a lot. And so I called him the day before we were playing.

I got to tell you what happened. I was just invited to fulfill biblical prophecy, meet these rabbis, to look at Red Heifers in West Texas. And he's like, oh, that's so cool. So he called one of his best friends in the world, who I did not know, him and his brother raised Red Angus outside of Dallas, not far from Dallas. Can I ask real quick?

Like a Red Angus, Red Heifers, is that a rare? I mean, I don't know anything about this. Are they rare? No, very common. Very common. But having one without being perfect. Perfect. Not, not, I mean, all red hairs.

I think the rabbis translate is not more than one hair that's not red. one hair on the entire body that's not red. For someone like me, that's not a big deal. But for a cow, that's rare, you know. Let me ask another dumb question then. Are there rabbis who are tasked with this and have been? And they're looking at all the red herders across the world and have been for generations? For a while.

Yeah, I mean, if you remember like eight or ten years ago, there was a big news story that broke worldwide if they think they found a red heifer. They were raising them in Israel. They've been trying to raise them in Israel to have them there. but they've all been disqualified just within a few months a lot of times because I mean the rarity of a perfect all red path and not just the hair

but can't have any defects can't have one leg you know short than the other it can't have any kind of never had a yoke put on it you can't even lean on them I mean there's so many details yeah that it's just it's almost impossible really it's like it's like a Kobe it's like a Kobe beef exactly they massage them in beer

yeah yeah yeah yeah The wack-lid red heifers. Nate is the in-house expert on all things, ginger. So I would think that he maybe knew about, you know, the perfect ginge cows. But I think this is new to you too, pal. Oh, yeah. You don't have white in your beard, though. I mean, you're good.

I do. I'm a blemish. I'm a blemish. You're a blemish jinge. We just diet. Yeah. That's right. I mean, it's definitely rare.

So let me recap. So these rabbis are coming out to look at at some red anguish. In this in Texas, they get stonewalled by a rancher who doesn't want to be involved with us because it's a little, it's a little different to say the least. And you end up getting connected with another rancher. This is how you guys get involved who raises red at Angus. The rare chance, yes, that he called his friend who happened to raise Red Angus because when I told him that, we were still going to this first rancher. So after I told him that, he called his friend and his friend was like, why aren't they coming out here, man? I'm like, we have Red Angus.

Well, a little did I know that this first rancher was going to cancel the same day that I found out. So I got a call back saying, never mind. It's been canceled. Now we got to, we can't just stick these guys out. We got to find something. And all of a sudden, it's like, already we had the place to go. Because now on my dad's closest friends who he just shared because he was like, man, how cool is this? He said, he and his brother raise him.

And I'm not exaggerating. There are other podcasts. They're on interviews. His brother really does most of the ranching. And his brother, 35 years ago, decided to raise Red Angus. He chose Red Angus because he was already wanting to be in the cattle business because of the Red Hepper prophecy. And he even said to his brother, wouldn't it be cool if we're in the last days and maybe one of our Red Angus could be like the Red Hemp for one day? Almost kind of like way out there.

But I'll be like I can pick any cattle. Let's do Red Angus just in case. 35 years earlier. Okay. So everything is just starting to point like, this is weird. Okay, this is the blurious thing. I've seen a long time. Like everything's lining up.

So we just kind of told the rabbi was kind of like, oh, like we didn't skip a beat like, hey, we're going to switch the location. Don't worry. We already had a plane. Yeah, just go ahead and come on. I mean, we were freaking out sweating bullets. But it was like everything fit. And so they came out to that ranch.

And man, maybe I'm another time. I'll taste some crazy stories about how the calves that were born, these red hats. None of them qualified when we looked at them. Here's the five second version. We went and did a pre-scan to make sure we're not wasting their time. And you can pretty much tell. I mean, you can look through their hairs in the least. There's not one with a big white birthmark.

You know, we're like, okay, are there? None of them qualified. Yeah. And when we had already looked at all of those on this new ranch, before we left, we were all talking. We're like, man, I just don't know this. qualify. One gave birth in the field out there while we were visiting trying to look for one. And when it was born at that moment, we went and looked at it and that one had no that we could

tell, no white hairs. And it was like, at least there's one that will qualify. Yeah. That's crazy. So we said, hey, just come for this one. I don't know if it'll stay qualified, but we didn't think there are any now. There's one. So we go out there and I'm sitting in the house of this. guy of the rancher, you know, and waiting on these rabbis to come. And they kind of send out their, they're kind of like, it's like levels. It's like the JV. Rabbis. Yeah. J.B. Rabbi before the big guys come out, it's like, make sure we're not wasting our time. You go. Like, here comes the scout team. Put the scout team out there. And they didn't want to tell anybody because they didn't want to look foolish of like, we think we found her at HEPF.

And then it's another one of those stories where it's like new cycle. Yeah. For mine, it's not one. So we had to keep it under wraps until they, were ready to release all this, which people have probably all heard. I mean, it's been all over the world. So I'm sitting in the living room, and this is the craziest part. This is wow. So the rabbis get there and we're about to, we're getting ready to go look at this redhead room. And by the time that they got here, there were a few, I think there were like two or three more that had been born in that gap of those days, because he has a huge herd. And so the rabbi says, I don't know why I'm telling all this, but let me just tell you kind of like the backstory of the last time we as the Jews found

the ninth red heifer and he goes it was two thousand years ago and so we're all just kind of like listening to story time with rabbi you know he's like two thousand years ago when we had the second temple the and this is written i've seen the the writings of this from i mean this is like centuries ago thousands of years ago and it says uh historically they went they were trying to because there's a breastplate that the high priest the bible says wears with 12 jewels on it and one of them's a diamond and they were they were preparing for the second temple and they had to have the red heifer they had to have all the stuff for the high priest there's so many biblical rules and laws to follow and they were looking for the diamonds

they went to the diamond dealer in jerusalem and the diamond dealer was a gentile not jewish and they said hey we want to buy this diamond from you and the story goes the diamond dealer said okay and they gave him a price and he said we'll come back tomorrow and i'll sell it to you and they said no like let's just get it now like we got to get this done and we need to need to get the breastplate. And they went back and forth, come back tomorrow. No, we need it now. And they kept raising the price. And he said, just come back tomorrow. And he didn't tell him why. So they left, kind of bewildered, if you will, and they came back the next day. And he sold them the diamond. But he sold it to him at the first price that they asked. And they said, why did you tell us to

come back today? And he said, well, the key to get into where the safe where we keep the diamond was under my father's pillow and he was asleep. And he sold it to him at their first price, even though they had raised it and they said because you're an honorable man the rabbi said and this is historically he said not only will you be able to provide the diamond for this temple but the your herd will produce the red heifer and of course that diamond dealers heard 2,000 years ago they got the diamond for the breastplate and the red heifer from this diamond dealer now here's the craziest part of all and that's the rabbis telling this story the rabbis telling us sitting in this house there are two brothers the Red Angus guys.

One of them, who's the guy who's one of my dad's best friends, for 40 years, has been one of the top diamond dealers in Dallas. Oh, man, he's a diamond dog. And the rabbi had no idea. And I looked at everybody and I was like, does he know?

Who's going to tell him? And we're like, the guy who owns this herd is a diamond dealer. Of course, the rabbi lost it at that point. Are you kidding me? And we're like, what are the chances? Yeah. 2000 year gap.

And it's another diamond dealer who's a gem, who is now might have this red heather. So that was. Was Adam Sandler? Is that, is that? All right. Jim. This is his dad.

Yeah. Okay. That's amazing. That's a, is they, when they're doing this, preparing for this next temple, that's the,

you're talking about the EFod, right? They have this breastplate that the high priest has to wear. Is that something they have to rebuild as well? They're doing that. They've done it all. It's all done. Yep.

You can look to you, do you get to wear it? You said, oh, I get to wear it. You get to wear it. Try it. I just need you to photo shoot. That's it. That's right.

But yeah, man, I mean, like all that, the temple institute, it's public knowledge. They're the institute rabbis that have already prepared everything that's needed to build the temple. They have the breastplate. And I've seen it in person. You can't take pictures of it. I've been in Jerusalem, seen it in person. They have all the utensils. They even have the gold menorah that's like, I don't know, like nine feet tall and weighs thousands of pounds.

Gold menorah. It's on display in Jerusalem. So all they need is a red heifer and the political expediency. And the temple. Yeah. To build this temple. Yeah. So those are the two things they're waiting on before they can build the temple.

And so it has to be the Bible says two years old to be able to sacrifice it. And they will be two years old. They haven't released their birthday. So I don't think of thing. But towards the end of this year, they'll be two. And they haven't hidden locations too. So we'll know. I mean, to potentially, we're going to say we, obviously.

obviously you guys will know and potentially you could tell tell us if if this little guy ends up being a or gal it's a heifer right so I'm not really sure how that works but yeah well fast forward they had five that they yeah so then we go to the the ranch and they brought so the scout team said we got some and so and then some of the the higher level rabbi and stuff finally came and so this was what December. There's three or four December of 21, I think. And they came. And so we're on now it's like, because

of the higher level rabbis coming, there's more people there. Like there was people from a few like big churches in the area. You got all these people trying to figure out what's happening. News and like I was telling you, Luke, there was two film crews, one really big network.

And then there was us, which was me and my wife with our cameras as a film crew kind of breaking stuff and everybody's essentially trying to get this story or have this story and so we're here in these rabbis and we have some awesome awesome footage of a lot of

this stuff and you have these rabbis with these red heifers on the ground and they're I mean thorough examining they even have some Jason's holding a phone on there's a Zoom call of like a room full of rabbis and chief rabbis on the Zoom

like the Pope for Rabbis yeah like as these higher level rabbis are examining them and they're talking back to each other. They're like, what about that spot? What about this spot? And there's a pin full of, I mean, maybe a couple dozen of them. And they're going through a new batch, essentially, of ones that were born since then. And they end up finding more of them. And they have like this orange chalk and they're writing these Hebrew letters on their head if they qualify.

And they're like, okay, the ones that qualify in this pen, the other ones in that pen. and they ended up with seven of them at that time that actually qualified, lost a couple of them since then, but in that, in that moment. And so we're sitting here. And it was just a surreal moment to be sitting here and we're looking. You see these rabbis and stuff and we're shooting a lot of this stuff. And people are kind of like, people that have been following it for years are kind of having this moment of like, wait, did they actually just find them? And the coolest thing for me, one of the coolest things personally was to see the rabbis get excited. Like one of the guys was younger, probably in his 20s at the realization when the higher level rabbi and the chief rabbi that was on the Zoom call gave the thumbs up and was like, disqualifies. I mean, they were examining.

They were like, show us the mom. Like, let's see if the mom has white hair to see what this is going to be disqualified soon, like all this stuff. and when he approved these young rabbis start freaking out because it's stuff that, you know, they've probably been hearing about learning about since their youth as they're in like their schools. And they're just like, what? Like is this?

It approves this. And they're, I mean, the whole atmosphere just shifts to like celebratory. And they're like, man, we have them. And people are already frantically like, how are we going to get them to Israel? What are we going to do? How are we going to? And a funny part, which we actually got to. to take a video of this guy. So the ranch hand for that ranch was probably like a 20 year old kid,

19, 20 year old kid. And he doesn't care nothing about none of this stuff. He's just, he's just a guy that works the farm, right? And so he's sitting there. And we go up to him, we're like, how do you feel they're going up to him like, hey, put these red heifers in another pin. Don't let anything touch them. Don't pin their ears. Don't let them roughhouse with each other. Don't put them with the other. All these extensive instructions to protect. these red heifers. And we ask him after it's like, how do you feel? He's like, man, I'm just, it's pretty crazy stuff.

You know, thick southern accent. Like, this pretty crazy stuff. I'm just doing what I'm told. I'm going to do what I can. It's pretty cool to be a part of something that's bigger than me. And so it was, yeah, it was definitely a surreal thing. Yeah, yeah. Wow.

I'm picturing like, like Jimmy from Yellowstone. And he's just like, yeah, just do what I'm told. That is perfect. That even looks like me. Yeah. Yeah. exactly so so so there's there's four qualifying factors right for them to this thing to qualify right it has to be i'm i was doing a little like you know joe rogan here kind of googling but it has to be perfect in

its redness as you said even two hairs of any other color will disqualify it even his hoofs must be red it will has to be three to four years old it must be free of any kind of internal external defect it's not three it's over two so the way they count it's the third year it can be so the way we would count is two two years since they were born It can't be used for any type of physical labor or never placed under the yoke. It's part of they're hiding it, right? Because couldn't somebody just go and throw a rope around its neck and be like, hey, pull this and then you're disqualified?

I guess. They had them under like protection. Yeah, which is why. Protective custody. Their locations and stuff are so secretive because of those reasons. And so it's like, you just can't pull up to Israel as a tourist and be like, hey, can I see the red heiferous? I'm not ready for you to come back.

Disqualified. Somebody throwing knives at them or something. Ruined the whole plan. So talking about this now, so let's just red heifers found their qualifying and to be sacrificed at two years. We're coming up on that at the end of this year. People thinking passed over is the goal.

So when that happens, what? Then what? Or somebody listening to it's like, okay, boom, this happens. So you got red cows. Yeah, you got these red cows. got these red cows. Yeah. Sacrifice like on from that moment on, then what,

yeah. What should I be looking for? What should I be expecting? What comes next? Well, the red pepper has to be sacrificed within, uh, the eyesight of the eastern gate where the dome of the rock is, if you will, but where the temple wants to the second the temple. And that's on top of the Mount of Olives, which like if you're a Christian, it's pretty cool

symbology because like Jesus, the last sacrifice, the red pepper on the Mount of of Olives. Jesus on the Mount of Olives. And they actually have procured it. And they now own the acreage on top of the Mount of Olives, the rabbis. And they already have everything set to be able to do this. And they don't have to have any political changes or anything to sacrifice the red heifer, other than the perfect red heifer.

And so if one of these- So they don't need the temple? They don't need the temple then? They don't need to have the temple. No, you have to have this before the temple. This is like, okay, let me- So this is the first domino of all the prophecies, though. So once they, so they have to be able to, there has to be a red heifer sacrificed and then,

and then they can rebuild the temple? Is that the, sorry, the process? Yes. I think you might have said that. I'm like, I was thinking this was part of the temple sacrifice. Because it purifies, according to scripture, all the stuff that be used in the temple, the high priest, the utensils, the temple. So they can't be ceremonially plain until they have the ashes of red heifer, which it's taken

two thousand years to find. Yeah. Which is one of those divine decrees. It's a chuck. So they are ready to do it. Passover of 2024 of next year. There's three of them out of the five that are still perfectly qualified. So that's awesome.

Okay. The chance of that. Yeah. So this is making sense. This is what I was, okay, because I was thinking, man, they got to figure out how to get the dome of the rock and knock it down and build the temple in the next few months. So no, this is the, as you say, this is the domino that knocks the rest of them down. It starts the whole process.

So, I mean, after that, they now. at least ceremonially can build the third temple. And of course, just imagine like sacrificing animals live around the world. Just think of the chaos that can cause. I mean, just with, I mean, Peter. Yeah, you have all these things. I mean, it's going to shake. The whole world is paying attention to that small piece of land.

And it's about to get more heightened than you've ever seen before if this actually happens. And it's going to be the broadcast live around the world. And the government stepped in and said, guys, we're going to have millions. If this happens, we need. what's the security, what's transportation, what they're already planning for this so that they can handle potentially millions of people coming in and the chaos that could ensue if they're not ready for. So they're taking it very serious. So a pastor and a worship leader from Texas get involved in the red heifer business. Yeah, I have no idea how we ended up there, man.

Intertwine with biblical prophecy. This is a, this is a wild. And I just think, and like Jason alluded to earlier like this will be when the that sacrifice happens it will be global news um for a lot of cases there's even big networks um and things that like really really big fortune 50s if you that were like man how can we get this footage how can we do like wanting to essentially buy a story to break a story like TBN right yeah bigger a bigger the hair closer to god yeah I'm sure they're line of them. The juggernauts. And so to think that similar, Nathan, like you were talking about,

of just having the technologies and the things that are available, or have access now, people are asking these questions. And so to be on the front line of a lot of this stuff and just to be in some of these conversations and things that we've been a part of and that you've been a part of even more so to say, man, when that happens, you know, presumably next year and it is global news. I feel like there's just going to be a rush or a wave of people that are like, okay, why is why is the world stopping for this? Like what is happening? What's going on? And obviously with that being a domino for something

for the next thing. And then all of a sudden you hear people talking about temples. And then all of a sudden you hear people talking about wars or rumors of war. And then, yeah, the level of, interest, I think is going to 10x, 100x overnight almost to where a lot of the questions that people are having as far as whether it's with technology or whether it's the paranormal or the supernatural or different things, it's just going to start putting a lot of stuff into perspective. And then again, those questions are going to flood in and people are just going to be looking for those answers, looking for different sources. And obviously scripture talks about deception and people being deceived in these times and these days and even, you know, y'all

recently had someone on and talking about new age stuff. And there's just going to be so many things that people turn to to try and explain all of this that don't necessarily have foundational backing. And so it's interesting to think that, especially for people that aren't Christian or non-believers that in referencing the Bible, referencing this book, it's always like, man, I'm not, you know, I'm not adhering to this thing that was written by men thousands of years ago and doesn't pertain to anything. But then when you start lining out things that it's like, exactly, it was written thousands of years ago and it's happening as it's said.

Then you'll have people start to be like, okay, wait a minute, what's going on? What do we need to be doing? What do I need to be listening to watching, you know, believing? And so, man, it's exciting. Like, it really is. We're excited to be a part of this. this in any capacity, but in the capacity, I remember me and my wife were sitting in the in the in the in the pen with these red heifers and they're like, hey, one of the rabbis goes up to her and it's like, hey, can you can you go? You have a camera right. Can you go take a picture of all the ones that we've marked with the whatever Hebrew number or letter, whatever it was on there for it just so we can get a picture of all of them and they're excited like this is a massive moment. Can you go take pictures? And we just kind of had this moment of like, wow. Like this, it, it ends up being what it is to just be like, oh, yeah, yeah, we were in the pen with them.

You know that, that domino, that was one of the first dominoes to this massive global shift, if you would. And so, yeah, it's been, it's been really cool. Yeah. I think I kind of grew up with this idea that, like, the darkness knows it's dark. And as the show's kind of, like, progress, I'm like, no, I think a lot of the ancient people thought they were on the right team. they were, you know, they were worshipping the serpent. They thought the serpent was the true God giving him. Right. Yeah. How does, do you think that they're pushing prophecy for, they want this to happen as well, because they all believe this is when they truly get their liberation.

Good question. Yeah. I mean, I, you know, that's one of my favorite things to talk about is this light versus darkness. You know, I think we get so caught up on religions and, you know, what religion and Christianity is just another religion. When really the Bible doesn't talk about religion and talks about two kingdoms. And so we're not a religion. We're a kingdom. And so you have light and darkness. And yeah, man, I mean, I think they both have a plan. Each kingdom has a plan. And of course, you know, we know that the kingdom of light wins, but that doesn't mean that darkness doesn't have their own domino effect. Because why? According to the Bible, this false Messiah, this leader rises up. So here's your checklist.

You see this Red Heifer. Then you see plans or all this talk for the temple being built is going to escalate. If they do this in the Passover, every news cycle is going to be talking about this third temple and how they're going to do it. By the way, they already have plans and they already know how politically they can do it. And then this leader rises up and it starts, I mean, taking a forefront. So yeah, there is a plan for both sides. And they're saying, hey, this is our victory. You know, we're going to have this, you know, our leader is going to rise up.

And the whole world's going to follow him. And you have Kingdom of Light, you know, saying this, you know, the Messiah's already come. He's coming back. And so, yeah, man, we've started two Domino's, if you will. And when this happens, you're going to see just all of them start falling. And the news is just going to, I can read scriptures and we can watch the news as this happens. I know.

I would, Nate, we've talked about this before. Just sort of in the caveats to the idea that the sibling prophecies and the occult prophecies He's actually prophesive of philosopher king that's going to come and usher in this era of peace, right? Which is literally mirroring to what the Bible says will be the interchrist, right? This great delusion, deception. It's always counterfeit. It is. It really is.

And I think I was going to ask about once this sacrifice happened, so they qualify, let's just say for sake of argument, they qualify one of these Texas red heifers and they end up doing the prophesied. sacrifice of the red heifer on Passover and say that. Let's just say just for this exercise that all happens. Is there then a shot clock sort of in place that begins for the rest of these things? Or it was just saying like now we've just sort of made this next hurdle. So the next hurdle now is the rebellion of the temple. And once that happens, then we have all these things set up.

From a Jewish sample, an Orthodox Jewish temple, we have all these things set up for the return of the Messiah. But is there, we talked about Daniel in this timeline of his prophetic. is prophecies of, you know, of the timeline of Jesus, right? Is there a, is a real question? Is there a shot clock, then once this heifer is sacrificed, this perfect red heifer, so now they can do the purification of the utensils and all the things in the temple, you know, per the, you know,

per-leviticus numbers and all of the, the Lovittical law and instruction? Or is it just now that we are on the precipice of this next thing? is not really like a prophecy for within, you know, who knows, 100 years or whatever. The shot clock, if you will, starts. Technically, the timing is not with the red heifer. The red heifer is the prerequisite to all of it. But they're already planning once that happens. The temple is more of the tabernacle of Moses.

So it's don't think of like stones and, you know, 10 years of building this huge structure. It's a prefabricated. It's a tent. You can put it up within seven days. True. Yeah, they did the desert, right? Yeah. Right. So this is not some long, drawn out thing. But the time clock starts when they begin sacrificing with the daily sacrifices. So this is their prerequisite. Once they start sacrificing daily in the temple, then you have a seven-year countdown. And man, just the craziest thing is the book of Daniel chapter 12, he talks about when the first time that they were told to stop sacrificing when they went into captivity in Babylon, it's 600 BC. And he says, in Daniel chapter 12, let me read it because this is.

going to flip you. This is actually really cool. This is going to, it's definitely a worthy thing. And Daniel 12, he says, let me give you the timeline here. And this is your shot clock. He said, from the time that the daily sacrifice will be taken away, which is 600 BC, and the abomination that makes desolate set up, there shall be 1,290 days. And these are the days of years, which I could explain in a longer time. And if you take that time, 1,290 years from when they first stop sacrificing, you get to 691 A.D. And do you know it was finished being built in 691 A.D.? The Dome of the Rock right on Temple Mount. Wow. And then he said, it goes on to say, there shall be, and this is, I have to, can't take credit from my pastor Robert Murray taught this,

but he said there will be 1,335 days of years from that time, which from 691, 1,335, we come to 2026. And so everything is pointing to this time. And of course, Jesus having, you know, died and rose again in 33 AD, some say 32, we'll leave that for an argument. We're at almost 2,000 years exactly from that time. We already heard Daniel said the first time he would, Messiah would come was 33 AD and he died. Everything is pointing to the next 10 years. And now we have potential red heifers. They're going to make a sacrifice was fits the timeline of 2026. My opinion is 2026 after this red heifer next year can be when they have the ability to have this temple and start sacrificing. When that happens, you have seven years according to biblical prophecy till the end. So we're looking at 2033.

And so once you get three reasons. You got time for the book now. You guys can do it. 33 reasons. Exactly. Yeah. Even in to add on to that, because obviously it's cool that Daniel actually It's one thing like you have to be pretty certain if you're throwing actual dates, years numbers out because that's something that you can go back and say, you were actually off 100 years. But to see even looking back historically and biblically and matching those things up and seeing the parallels there and being able to go back and confirm, you know, certain years for certain things and structures, it's cool to think even looking forward now and having these timelines. and be like, oh man, 10 years, people hear that. And some people have different internal or emotional responses to that. And even when we met, Luke, being at Axiom and having events. And you kind of see this talk.

And now me and my wife get to travel a lot and do a ton of ministry all over the country and hear from these different organizations and different people. And Luke, I don't know if you remember, Illuminations was one of the organizations that kind of, of sponsors a lot of the things and the retreats into different things, and they even sponsored an event we were at last year. And their big thing is translating the Bible into every known native tongue. And so them, along with a couple big families, big Christian families that we would all know, have put forth their efforts and resources to getting this done for the sake of what

scripture says of being of the word being known to the ends of the earth and every tribe and every tongue almost being a prerequisite for a lot of this other stuff. And so Illuminations has this video, this new advertisement promo that says that they have finally known and are certain of all the languages like the known languages. And to be a known language, it has to have at least 100 people that speak that language. It's kind of the metric for it to be considered as a known official global language. And so of that, they reverse engineered it. as far as cost and the time and how long it takes to translate scripture and they came out this

massive promo video that we actually saw for the first time like a little less than two weeks ago that says by 2033 every known language will have at least the New Testament in their native time that's wild that's wild and so just to think about that is wild and there's a there's a few like big ministries too or or public figures Christian public figures Christian public figures Christian that are, I mean, massive annual conferences and gatherings that in the past year or so are beginning to revamp their goals and things. And one person came out and was like, man, I just feel like guys wrapping this thing up in 10 years and all of my efforts are going to go towards this, you know, originally being big and so like women's ministry and things. It's like, you know what,

I'm going to pivot and all of my effort is going to getting the church ready. Yeah. We got to something to happen in the next 10 years. And there's just, yeah, that's just a comment. And these people don't know each other. You know, like, we know, Illuminations hasn't ever said anything about Red Heffered things. They're just passionate about Bible translation and said, this is the year that we've reversed engineered and figured out we can finish this

by this time. And so it's cool again, just to see all of this overlapping and all of these parallels, you know, and to just, yeah, be a part of it and to be aware of it to see these different, you know, ducks lining up, if you would. And just, yeah, being mindful and. Yeah. And do they get all those Bibles to the Gideons? And those guys just get it out.

Those guys work quick, man. Every holiday, every holiday in has got to. We just all need to get out on the porch in the morning with our coffee and just blow the show far, you know, every one of us. That's all at the same time. Yeah. Just everyone out there, blow your show far. Bro, so did I.

Hey, man. My church, man, in like the 90s, they were blowing shofars. There's always that guy. There's always that guy. I think for the next five years, if every Christian got on their porch in the morning and blew a shofar, something would happen. There's no way something wouldn't happen. We would, like, rip the veil of the supernatural. And all of a sudden, you're going to have angels in the sky with doing a soul train line.

Dog man's running everywhere. Yeah, it would go viral in all. realms. In all realms. Hey, so listen, listen, like, so, you know, everybody's got their mission for 2033. We just spawned our Shofar mission. So, guys, you're here for the inaugural meeting. I guess you guys are on the board.

You know. Yeah. And for 1999, you get the blurry creatures showfar. Yes. A blessed Shofar from the Holy Land. And that's my last question for you guys. It's like, there's so many of you guys who have been blowing the horn on this for. Oh, look at this transition, bro.

There we go. For years. And they've been making a lot of money, films, books, this and that. Why did those guys get it wrong? And, you know, I grew up with that. And there's a lot of people in the deconstructionist movement who walk away from their faith because all these dudes got it wrong. And they're like, this whole thing is a hoax.

It's a scam. So what can you say about some of those guys that got it wrong back in the 80s and 90s? I say hindsight is 20-20. I always like saying that because it's so true, man. it's like as you get older, you look back and you're like, okay, life makes more sense from the future looking back. I mean, when we're looking back now, I mean, especially previous to 1948, I mean, all of these prophecies have to do with a physical nation of Israel that is all in one location. And that has not happened in 2000 years until 1948. So none of these prophecies could have even been, you know, fulfilled without that

happening first. And then you have like all of these, you know, scriptures that, It's like they didn't realize because they were looking at from a different perspective. Daniel 12 says seal up these words until the end, then they'll be revealed. And so I think a lot of things we're seeing as we're living at going, that makes sense. The Red Hepper, why didn't we not consider that 500 years ago when it was like, look, you know, it's happening. I mean, even the Bible says, you know, Peter says, we talked about Peter saying it's the end. He said a day is a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day to the Lord. I'm a big physics, math, science guy.

I mean, that's kind of how I relate to God. And I actually did the math on that to find out, what would the math be if a thousand years on earth is like one day in heaven? I mean, it came out to something crazy, like the average American. I looked at the average person's life. And if this is like literal, in heaven's time, we live less than two hours in heaven's time. And so you have a short, just whisk. Well, if a thousand years is like a day to the Lord,

then when Peter said we're in the last days, If we had 4,000 years from Adam to Jesus, four days, and we've had 2,000 years almost from Jesus to us, that's two more days, that's six days. And on the seventh day, God rested. So we've been in the last days for 2,000 years since Jesus died and rose again. And I could go scripture after scripture. I mean, God said I'm giving man 120 Jubilee years in the Bible. That's every 50 years you have a jubilee. 120 times 50 is 6,000.

And God says that's the number of man. I mean, but once again, it's hindsight. If I lived 200 years ago, I'd probably be saying the same stuff. But now we're looking back going, that couldn't have happened. Now it all is lining up. There has been no temple since Jesus. So we know it couldn't have been the last days before the temples did. That's the biggest, I think, sign we're looking for.

Okay. I like it. It's more broad. It's bigger. I like it. So what happens when the perfect red, red Sasquatch walks out of the woods, guys? that's on another level grab the show for

grab the show for start blowing man maybe that calls them out Cheech maybe that calls them out maybe that's what we're doing we were talking about the Nephlin all these stories of like these Navy seals they always said they have red hair

like what is the deal with that I mean I keep saying it's significant and I'm like yeah and then you have the red sasker swatch so I don't know maybe that's for another royalty you probably are red hair signals right yeah it is the rare

the rare it's the rare it of it. Yeah. They said King David had red hair, so hey, you know, you're in good good Yeah. Can't trust a change. The Auburn and Sasquatch. It's, it's, there's one beautiful one. There's one beautiful one. It's a thing. Yeah. There's just one beautiful one. And if you see it, just start praying because time is short. It's the unicorn of saskwages. I like it. It is. You need a t-shirt. Well, gentlemen, thank you so much for coming on blurry creatures and dropping some. It's been fascinating. some colorful knowledge on us.

We'll keep you updated. I'm just, I love it. You know, you took the red pill. This pill's a little redder. A little redder. So now as you hear,

as you hear some of this stuff, you're going to just think about it. Like you'll see little news clips of our clips. You're going to be like, wait a minute. Is this that thing? Is this happening? I got you on speed dial, bro. I'll be like,

fill me in, bro. We should start a podcast called the blurry future. Yes. And we can just. pick up, man. The blurry future. Pull up. Share everybody with you guys

are working on what you're doing. I know a little about what, you know, what Chi Chi's been up to. Also, Chi Chi chair with your full name. I didn't do that accent when I thought it was so cool. So you got to share your full name. My full name is Chizoba,

Chidubim, Chichy on Yekeneh. Wow. My parents are from Nigeria. Chichu was the easiest name I had. So I said, you know what? I'm rocking.

Say it in the accent. Yeah, do the accent. It's like, so, you know, If I'm just chilling in my room, you know, my mom needs me. Do it. Chizzo, oh, bye. Chichie. Chitty bell, mom, I'm yuck on yuck on there.

You have to come back. I'm like, all right. Dude, that's amazing. You haven't ever heard of praying mom until you've seen an African mom. This is a true story. I kid you not. I get about three voicemails a week of like 90-second prayers that are like. That's awesome.

All in. And I'm just like, you know what, Mom, I'm covered. Appreciate it, Ma. Shout out. Mom, you probably never go watch this. She's not tech savvy, but shout out to you, Mommy. They're the real one. But a few things we're working on, man, one of the most recent things, we actually started

a podcast surrounding a lot of these conversations called Faith in Friction. And, man, it's been awesome. We've done our first episode was actually about Red Heifer thing. All Things, Red Heifer. a lot of the stuff we talked about today and even more stuff and more like personal accounts and things. And with Anna Lee Mohery, who is Robert Moherry's daughter-in-law and my wife Tracy, they're Anna Lee and Tracy are literally sitting right here.

I was like, I'm looking at him. And so, yeah, we did an episode on the Red Heifer. We did an episode on AI where Jason even goes in and script her to where, you know, he believes scripture talks about AI and different things. Check that out. And then we just did a new age episode that we released. We have Nephilim one. Nephilim.

We got a flat earth one. That's great that we're excited about. We did not land on the moon. And we had all kinds of stuff. And so, yeah, check that out. Faith and friction. It is awesome. We're excited to dive into these conversations,

especially as some of this stuff starts to unfold. Yeah, we've got our blurry correspondence. Texas chapter. Well, invite you to the surface. Let's know what's happening in the pen of red, of red heifers. You got you, man. You got you. Well, that's awesome.

Well, thanks, guys. This has been. Absolutely. Super fun. Hey, Tracy. I know you're in the background there somewhere. Good to, good to see you around. Yeah, guys.

It's been a man. He's like, no, I'm good. All right. Well, good to see. Hey, thanks so much for the time. And yeah, I think this is such an important conversation. So, uh, cool, cool, guys. I appreciate it.

Yeah, thanks so much. Thank you. Appreciate you guys. Nice to see you guys. Nice to meet you. Okay, so if you're listening to this podcast, you've been listening this whole time. We actually have a, we recorded this a little while ago, so we're going to do an update, and you're not going to be able to tell as a listener, but gentlemen, welcome back for the update of where we are now in this story,

and we can just hop right back into it. Our listeners are, this is going to be, to them, no time has passed, but it's been about six months. So where are we in this story right now? Yeah, yeah, real quick. Yeah, it's been about six months. all the things we've talked about in the backstory, and we talked about mentioned a red heifer being sacrificed and what that meant. And as of now, you know, and there's this stuff you can look up.

There's different articles. The plan is for them to actually sacrifice this red heifer on and around Passover this year, which is from now. Yeah, it's a couple months away. And obviously a lot can happen from now until then. but that is public record, which wasn't when we first started recording this episode. And that's the plan. And so what does that mean?

You know, that there's reports when there was originally seven red heifers, five of them made it to Israel. There's different articles and things about, you know, how many of them may be left now. There's been some foul play reported, you know, and the confirmation of that varies in different capacities. keeping it, understandably so, they're trying to keep it under wraps as much as possible. And they actually have them in locations that nobody really knows but a few people. Because as you can see, it would be hotly contested. This whole issue is contested by different people of different backgrounds and ideas of what this looks like. So they have them hidden.

And the last I've heard, there are three that still qualify out of the five as far as what the Bible says has to be done. And there's... I just want to just point this out there, right? Because only up until this point in time here in 2024, there only been nine ever in the court history, correct? And not in one in the last 2,000 years, correct? Right, right. So we are, I mean, this is historic times.

And when we were... And we originally recorded this episode, we were, we didn't have the geopolitical things that are happening right now in Israel, which I'm sure is what you're alluding to when we were talking about. You got to tell them what you're... And so it's cool. I've been, me and Luke got a chance to talk for the past couple days about some of this stuff. And I just went into some deep research the past couple days to, to kind of confirm the stuff that we'd heard, see what news outlets are saying. And obviously given the tension

happening in the Middle East since the fall, there's even some articles on both, you know, Jewish and Arab facing news outlets that's that mentioned the red heifers. And there's this one video you You can literally Google it and you'll find it. There's this one video of an Arab leader mentioning, you know, talking about hostages and stuff. And he's mentioning that this tension and this uproar also has to do with the bringing of red cows. And so a lot of people.

And then I found two articles back in 2021 that said that the pursuit, which is when these red herfers were found and collected, that the pursuit of this mission in and of itself is essentially declaring war. And so it's it's some intense stuff. And definitely given that, I wanted, I wanted Jason to go into briefly some of if, if in fact this does happen during Passover, which is a couple months from now and surrounding that, just what that would mean, what would happen. What that would kind of jump start or domino. You know, I was meeting, I don't know the exact month, about six months ago, actually. It wasn't long after we did this, the rabbis that are responsible for this from the Temple Institute in Jerusalem were in town. And we had a meeting,

and they were given some updates and raising money and things like that. And one of the things that they were talking about is the government of Israel came in and realized, okay, this is getting real, and you guys are really thinking you're going to do this. I mean, we've heard about it a lot, and it's never actually happened. Now this is, there's more than one can. candidate and it's viable. And now at that time, they're already what, you know, close to the right age, you know. So the government said, we're going to get involved. If you're going to do this, it's, there's security situations involved. There's pilgrim. I mean, what if five million people show up from. I'm supposed to be a part of this, you know, how are we going to do this?

So it's interesting because they've kind of gone quiet on the front of, they had talked about Passover over 2024. We've known that for probably around six months or so. And all of a sudden, it's like you can't see get updates. I haven't even gotten any updates. And so I have a theory that, number one, it's probably smarter. The government might have talked about this too, but they're probably going to have a surprise deal to where people are going to find out about it after it happens and see the footage. Because it makes sense. I mean, you can start a war. You know, if you announce a date it's coming and everyone knows where it's going to happen. So most likely, they're doing this, you know, kind of undercover under wraps.

Wow. It seems to make, that makes sense to me, right? Because if you have all, I mean, look at all hostility point Israel and the Jews. And if there's this epic sort of millennial type, important, important event, that is a magnet for geoterrorism for all of the bad things. Because if you're, you know, if you're helping on destroying Israel, which a lot of the, you know, everyone around Israel is. Right, right. You know, I think it actually probably confirms the fact that something's going on. How do you, I mean, how would you even protect this, this heifer?

How would you protect it anyway? Keeping it's secret. Yeah, exactly. Not talking about it. Yeah. Well, and if you have to believe that God's, you know, already said this stuff's going to happen and it's happening, then how do you stop it, honestly? You know, I mean, it's going to happen. But did you say the guy that claimed that part of the reason the attack happened was because the red heffers?

Yeah, that's what I mentioned. He was like a Hamas leader. He was involved in that. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So it just goes to what you said.

And it's, they can't announce it. There's so much. And even like in a global like war sense to where knowing and knowing kind of like biblical prophecy in different scripture where you see this being a major player. and how many decades and centuries have people been like, oh, this is the end, this is the end. And it's like people have been saying that for forever. But there's specific things that we can look at in scripture where it's like, well, no, like there's things that have to take place that the Bible says before any of that other stuff can even take place.

And so another thing, I don't know if I told you guys, it's an Indiana Jones issue, last time is that every time they had a red effort sacrifice, They had ashes of the previous red heifer and they mixed with the new ashes. I don't know if I mentioned that. I don't remember that part. I don't remember that. I don't know the Dead Sea Scrolls. They were found in a cave in Qumran in southern Israel in, what, 1940 something. Well, with the Dead Sea Scrolls, they found a lot of other scrolls and artifacts.

And one of the scrolls that they found that's on public display now is called the Copper Scroll and a treasure map. I'm sure you've heard this on some other your other situation. But it's a treasure map. And the copper scrolls talk about the ashes of the previous red heifer. Now, once again, this ash that they keep are a mixture of all nine previously. So you go all the way back to Moses, his red heifer, all mixed with these. And the copper scrolls said that the ashes of the previous red heifers were buried in the same cave area with the copper scroll. That they kept them there.

That's why they buried them. So do you think they have them? Yeah. Wow. This is, this is like, this is like. It's crazy. It is. Yeah.

So, yeah, so they're going to mix those. The date set, you know, well, potentially, we'll see. I mean, think about that's invaluable. I mean, you can't, I mean, it's not like, that's insane. Back to, back to Moses. You have the, dude, this is wild. You know, and this is such. How do we even know that?

Yeah. I mean, yeah, I guess. How do you, how do you, how do, Where was that rumor? Well, that's written on the copper scrolls that are the oldest known. I mean, they were with the Dead Sea Scrolls, the oldest copies of the Bible ever found. And with them, the same cave and the same pots had copper scrolls that had, they buried all the temple treasures from the second temple to keep them from being looted,

all the important things. And the Copper Scroll is a map that talks about where all these are. Of course, it's using ancient locations and terminologies that are hard to find out exactly where they are today. But the copper scroll says the ashes of the right heifer are buried with or in the cave with the scroll. So and there are some archaeologists that said that did that that came out and said, hey, they were in there and we have them. And it's a big drama too, you know, what people are saying. That's, this is so wild.

This is, this is an Indiana Jones film. But it, but at the same time, it's so connected to, you know, eschatology and, you know, because you got to have the, you got to have the heifers, you got to purify the articles and you got to have the articles to have, to have a temple. You got to have a temple to have an antichrist. You got to have an antichrist. Yeah. The beast, you got to have a.

And so it's, which is to my point earlier, there's the people that are like, man, there's, you know, 88 reasons. Christ is coming back in 88. 88. You know, it's like there's things that we know to be true. If you believe scripture, that have to happen first. And so it's like, oh, I can be confident that this is not happening unless this happens. Yeah.

And so this is one of those first dominoes. that we're like, man, if this in fact takes place this year, the tension and unrest that'll be a result of that, which a lot of people won't even realize that it's from that and kind of trimming and rooting from that, but it'll be, it'll be a global shakeup. It will. Yeah. Yeah. Like a cosmic reaction to it.

Yeah. And there's always a small chance that one of them, they're disqualified when they don't do it. I mean, I wouldn't guarantee it. But when you have three, I mean, this is pretty high chances. Okay, let me ask you, let me ask you guys this then, because I know you guys are not telling some things because they can't be broadcasts because you guys are privy to it. If you had to just do odds on this, like, if you had to put a percentage on the likelihood

that you think that there is a red heifer sacrifice to Passover between April 22nd, April 30th to 2024, what's your? I would say in the next 12 months, it doesn't have to be on Passover. I would say it would be done. I would say 80% next 12 months. I was going to do it. I was going to say. Yeah.

I mean, when you talk to these rabbis and look at them, the eyes and look at there, you've never seen a pat. They feel it's the reason they're on this earth. Some of it is just for this. And so, I mean, they're going to pretty much all but make it happen if they can, no matter what. And even like that, speaking to that, it's like speaking of the rabbis. And again, we were on the ranch when they found the red heifers and were,

there with these rabbis and you got high level rabbis, lower level rabbis, a guy was on FaceTime with some more higher level rabbis in Israel as they're inspecting the, and we got to show some of that footage. Yeah, we want to see that. Yeah, we want to see this. I'll shoot you a Google drive after this. Okay. There's footage. You see these rabbis looking at them. They're examining them. And upon examining them, it's funny, they had, they marked them with like this orange chalk stuff, obviously not permanent because they would disqualify them, but they like, and we're like, hey, put these ones and they put like Hebrew letters on their forehead and we're like put them in that pen and the excitement that the rabbis had.

Like one of them started crying and he was like, you know, this is what my father and my father's father and my father's fathers were talking about and getting excited about and I can't believe I'm here. This is happening right now. This is so crazy to see them get excited like you said probably their whole life and rabbinical school was leading up to this moment. And, you know, what's been talked about for 500 to a thousands and thousands of years, they're like, oh, shoot, like, is this it? And so I can say with about 95% certainty that they also have the high priest already chosen

and he knows who he is for the third temple. So you're talking about there's only one high parade at a time. You're looking at Aaron in scripture. You go through scripture and the family, just a priesthood of Aaron's pre-shood and that he's already walking the earth. And I believe he was one of the guys that we met because he was in the running for it. So they have done everything they need to do to be prepared for this other than they have the EFOD made and all that stuff. Everything is not seen it all. Okay. Yeah. It's and it's wild. It's like it's recent news to us, recent as in the last few years. But like Temple Institute and all these people have been prepping for this stuff for 50 to 100 years. Just getting it.

everything lined up online and they'll talk about it. It's insane. I mean, they've remade every article that is needed for the temple. It's like, man. It's like Lego. It's a good thing. They need a, where's the secret service? Dude, what's the tech? Massa.

I wouldn't doubt it. So when we found them real quick funny story, when we're on the ranch, there was a ranch hand kid. He's maybe 19, 20 years old, just the main ranch head kid. And they essentially went up to him and was like, we'll be. back, this is how you take care of these. Don't pretty much like, don't, don't do anything to these. Like, don't separate them. And we interviewed him like, hey, how do you feel about this?

And he's super country kid. He's like, I mean, it's pretty crazy, I guess. He's like, he didn't know what he got into. They're like, use the dry erase mark. Right. Don't use the Sharpie alone. Like, Levi, don't use the Sharpie. I thought I was in bail and hey today.

Come to find out, I'm in charge of the world. Yeah. gentlemen that is that is wild this is so this is so cool all right well so dude yeah any any uh any final thoughts so if it happens it's happening in april right this happens they have to have a minimum age so as long as it's of the minimum age it could be at any moment when i have a feeling we're going to be surprised after it happens is the way i think they're going to do it and what's the last time you think they've had multiple candidates well they've had i mean even the last 20 years they've come out you know you've seen the articles like, oh, they think they found a red heifer, but they've never

lasted longer in a few months as far as before they were disqualified. So they have five originally and to still have three. And sometimes they some people say four are still qualified. And it's up to debate too because they, no pun intended split hairs over it. I'm like, well, what is? The Bible's not totally detailed on certain things. So it's cool to think even with the relevance of this time. It's cool to think.

And we actually just dropped the podcast on Monday about all the stuff. that's happened in the Middle East and Israel and Gaza and stuff. And like even all of that stuff is in scripture. Like guy talks about Gaza heavily. There's different things. Even as as far as the nations bringing Israel together, splitting Israel up and how that's happened historically. Like all of it is in scripture.

And so it just makes sense that this would be the time for that. And I will say if when this happens, we'll hit you guys back up. We'll give y'all an excuse. We'll give y'all in it. Let's go. We want it. We can be in Israel in the first week of June. And technically it could be right after this.

So maybe I'll do a live thing. Based time from Israel. They'll get Jason from Israel. I love it. Well, dude, this is awesome. So this is going to come out tonight. So we'll, thanks for doing this little update. Because I think it was, after talking to Chi Chi, I was like, dude, if there's anything

that we got to have, we got to know so we can get this out when it gets out. So the blurry, the blurry bow. There you go. We appreciate you guys, man. I know you got to get out of here. Appreciate you guys. Yeah. Thanks.

Thanks, guys. Yeah, bro. We'll talk. We'll see you, Cheech. We'll see you, bro. We'll talk soon. See you guys. Bye, guys.