Blurry Creatures - EP: 224 INTERDIMENSIONAL with Dr. Laura Sanger

Episode Date: March 1, 2024

Prepare to have your mind stretched as Dr. Laura Sanger comes back on the show to talk us through time travel, sound portals, and a more in-depth conversation about dimensions and quantum theory. What does the bible say about these complex ideas? Tune in now to hear some fascinating connections between modern-day science and ancient biblical stories. Support the show! www.blurrycreatures.com/members Intro Song: Timecop83 Socials instagram.com/blurrycreatures facebook.com/blurrycreatures twitter.com/blurrycreatures Music Kyle Monroe: tinytaperoom.com Outro Song: TimeCop1983: timecop1983.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'm going to assume at least one person is right, because if one person's right to bust the paradigm, it all goes back to the fallen chair. And the problem with the modern day church, they have a very truncated view of the supernatural. This backdrop that's just pregnant with all kinds of meaning associated with this Mount Hermon event. And this guy defects from the kingdom.

That's a big deal. You have tuned in to the blurry creatures. podcast. Welcome back. Welcome. Today you will learn some things. I dropped how I almost shut down all the Jamma Juses in Southern California due to a transdimensional email. It's a phenomenal story. It reminded me so much. I mentioned it in the episode. It reminds me so much of the office episode where Jim sends Dwight a fact from future Dwight. Yeah, that's where I got the idea. About coffee is poisoned. It's such a good. That's where I got the idea. I love it, dude. So yeah, I mean, this is a preview. We're going to be talking about,

dimensions, realms, time, in our interaction with that. People's favorite topic. As humans. They get testy about this, Luke. Why do they get so mad about this? Just like to be mad. You know, mad online is like a new thing. It's a status. But, you know, it shouldn't be. You need to sell that shirt. Matt Online. Just put it on it.

Nate is big mad online. People love to get mad at us. I don't even know why. I was just asking questions. Right. Not a big deal. You do? We can take it. Look what you started.

We can take it. What did you do? Yeah. You've been asked questions. Is Sack Squatch? Is he up to something deeper than what we think? We don't know. Feels like it.

Feels like an onion. It's blowing that horn. It is. There's lots of layers to that. It's good to talk about showfars again, too. She talked about. Yeah, you know, showfars have been a theme a little bit here. Yeah.

They have, you know, you get the old Rams horn out and blow it. No, but it's funny. you know we got dr laura sanger is back in the blurry verse she is a a favorite of you know of all the blurritos out there and you know we love laura and it is you know absolutely privilege and now and we talk about the episode but it's it's amazing how how things have kind of come Nate you know she was at blurry con we actually just you found her and say we we collectively you personally found her on in on uh on instagram on amazon yeah and about the federal reserve and her book on the reserve and she's just a wonderful she's the best wonderful person she's

the best yeah and so we're just grateful every time we'd spend with laura is amazing so people do get mad online with laura no but i think people misunderstand dr laura singer a lot and i think people misunderstand are intending the show sometimes but i think a lot of people have grown to love her and she's it she's she has our most downloaded episode on this podcast um some wild stuff happens in her episodes and and some of the stuff I don't know. People ask us. What do you think? I mean, it's, it's like a buffet and then some the Dr. Laura Singer episode. Are you hungry, Lou? Yeah, I'm hungry. Yeah, I've been fasting, so I'm ready. I'm hungry. Let's eat. Let's eat. We don't need to eat too much at this age. It doesn't seem to cook. It goes on easy, doesn't come off as easy. You're like, what the

heck are you talking about? I don't know what we're talking about. It sounds like a memo. Goes on these, doesn't come off. How many moves is to be taken off? I still have it on. I still have it off. I'm going to come off. We appreciate you guys if everyone out there who support this podcast. We're coming on four years of blurry.

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Come on down. Luke will, uh, Luke picks up the, whatever you're saying, I'm not doing, whatever it is. Luke did. We do get, we do have some awesome. People send us awesome things in the mail. People have been sending us some great stuff. We got a, we got a letter from some kids today that told us they wanted us to make. What was it?

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thank you for being a part of and being on this journey and Nate and I so even for a treat Dr. Laura Sanger is that in the proverbial building yep and let's get to Dr. Laura All right we got to get that energy up

because we're going back in the in the blurry verse with one of our favorites, Dr. Laura Sanger, thank you for being, I think you've being so kind to us over the years and hopping into our podcast at warp speed. We've talked about a lot of things. And we were thinking about you last night in one of our interviews specifically because it was talking about epigenetics and a lot of things that we've talked about in the past. So you've helped a lot of people on our show make sense of some of the other weird blurry things that we talk about here.

And it all kind of somehow comes together in this weird blurry pie. and you take a slice and you enjoy it. But every other conversation is needed to make sense of the last one. And today we're going to talk about interdimensionality, however you want to say that. And that's something we talk about a lot because a lot of people, specifically, I think, have more of a subtle Gnostic view of the spiritual realm. It's this magical place that doesn't exist. It's not something that you can tangibly...

It's ethereal. Yeah. Yeah, it's this whole. And so this conversation is a good one to have. And I think we might have some things to discuss it today with you because I think we've been in this space debating this topic alone for a long time. Like what are these creatures? Are they physical? Are they not physical?

Where do they come from? How are they here? Are there gates and portals and all this stuff? You know, a lot of people just throw out terms. It's interdimensional. It's interdimensional. And it's kind of frustrating, to be honest, because it's like, that just sounds like sometimes. an easy answer. So it's really good to dive into your brain. What do you think this word means? And how can you

help us make more sense of these things? But we're going to go back. We're going to throw all the way back to the beginning before we get into this conversation, Laura. Behind the scenes. So if you, if you were falling blurry creatures since the beginning, our first conversation with Laura was about her book, The Roots of the Federal Reserve. Yeah. And we literally found one of our favorite people in the entirety of our show, who feels like kind of like our, like our blur. A blurry mom in a weird way, though you're too young to be our mother. So, but in a cool way, it feels like that. And we've had this amazing relationship.

You were at BlurieCon. We love your family. Tom and your kids are amazing, amazing folks. And so, but it started with the roots of the Fed. And as it would be a couple weeks ago, my wife and I, Amy, were at a conference in, in Georgia, in Sea Island, Georgia, specifically with our friend Gabe Lyons and a bunch of other Christians talking about. the intersection of culture and Christianity.

But on the way there, and I end up texting you, Laura, on the way there, we flew into Jacksonville and you drive up. It's about an hour, an hour and 15 minutes. But on the way to Sea Island, there is actually a right turn. It says, Jekyll Island. And I saw this. I turned to my wife and said, oh, my gosh, if that's the Jekyll Island, we're going to need to check this out. And so Amy, of course, says, well, you got to text Laura because I don't, you know, I don't know if you should even go there. This is my wife's typical response.

So we end up texting Laura. And long story short, it ended up going. And it's been a while since I read your book, Laura, but the things I found were fascinating. So I'm trying to catch up as we're heading out there with a couple buddies. And of course, in your book, you talk about how the Federal Reserve was established in a secret meeting on Jekyll Island by the premier banking society members of the day. And as I'm reading this, so we end up going through what's called Jekyll Island Club, which is an original hotel built by J.P. Morgan, Rockefellers, et cetera, as their private getaway for the elite at the time. This is where they had the meeting. And I want you to correct me if I'm wrong,

because I'm trying to remember, but also what we did. So we went to this club. And one of the things that tried to remember was that the secret meeting happened in a cottage owned by the Rockefellers. So when we're at the hotel, we went this hotel, by the way, a couple of things. You drive over this bridge. If you've been out there before, you know what I'm talking about, but it's a lot of marshland. So when think of island, it's not specifically like a tropical island. think of. It's actually like a piece of land surrounded by a lot of tributaries, waterways, marshland in that part of Florida and Georgia. This is actually in Georgia, but that type of Florida and Georgia, that coastal is like intercoastal waterways with a ton of reeds and marsh. First off,

it's owned by the state, which is weird. You got to pay money to get in. It's a national park, which is odd. It's not how Sea Island is where we had the conference. When you get over the bridge, it's like the atmosphere changes. The guys I was with are the same response. One of the guys there is one of my good buddies, the Native American guy who basically, he more or less says I'm pretty sensitive to spiritual things. And he got ill. He got physically sick on, like, went on the island and then we got off with. He was fine. But we got to the island to the club. And it's this old. It looks like it's maybe out of the Titanic. It really feels like that, that era. Era. And we get in the hallway. And we're kind of looking at all the pictures.

And in the hallway, there's a picture of Rockefeller, J.P. Morgan and a number of other guys They're sitting around on a telephone call. It's a picture of them digging a telephone call in the mainland. But then knowing what I had remembered about a cottage, started looking and there was a cottage that was named, interesting enough, Indian Mount was the name of the cottage. Which, of course, you've been part of our show, Nate. You realize that a lot of what we talk about when giants in North America were found

in what in mounts and what are considered Indian mounds. So this cottage was bought in 1905 by the Rockefellers. And so as I'm trying to piece this together and remember what, I'd written and kind of figure out where I wanted to go see. This is a cottage owned by the Rockefeller's 1905. The meeting happens in 1910. They don't talk about it or admit to it for 20 years after that. But this cottage is on site.

So we walk over there. It's very creepy. There's the basement with a fresh lock on it. And not that that means anything except that like, you know, people don't want people in there. And it's not owned by the hotel. It's privately owned now. So you can't get in it.

But this whole thing to me was fascinating. I think the Indian Mountain thing was super interesting because of the giant connection and the Canaanite connection. So I took a bunch of photos. I haven't talked about this in the blurry version of any of our, any of our stuff were on our channels, Nate, but took a bunch of interesting photos when I was there. And it really kind of provided context to your book. And you can almost imagine this place is not easy to get to now.

Like, you've got to go over this big bridge and you've got to drive in. You've got to go through a bunch of gates. And I can't imagine, as soon as wetlands, how you got there easily, which you didn't at the turn of the 20th century. which is really when they had these secret meetings. And so I remember I was texting, this is a long story short, I was texting with Laura. And basically she gave me some prayers to say.

So we were covered. And my wife didn't go. She's pregnant and just didn't want to take any, any gun necessary risk there. But it was definitely a heavy, dark place. And it, I mean, the names of the Rockefellers, the Vanderbiltz, the Morgans were everywhere there. And, you know, if you, there is a show on history channel,

which is the men that built America. And of course, he's the Titans. of industry at the time. But as you know, Lauren, all your research, these are also the folks that conspire to, along with some other major bankers at the time, to create the Federal Reserve, which, of course, has Nephlem roots and is meant to enslave us and enslave us to this day. More so today than ever before. I had this conversation with a buddy yesterday who's a crypto guy, but he's just like, man, Fed is, it's slavery when we're all in the slave system. But I wanted to want to do kind of share that story with you because I hadn't had a chance to have been text to talk.

to you about that. But I want to see if I was off on anything. I've actually got to see the place, perhaps, where this meeting happened, you know, more than 110 plus years ago. Yeah. Well, it sounds like what you were feeling was definitely the stronghold that's still over that territory. And one of the things that I talk about, and I probably, I don't remember if I've talked about it on your podcast, but the concept of generational iniquity. And I know I have talked about how land is affected by what we do on it and, you know, going all the way back to the Timuquans that, you know, the native tribe that lived in that general area, you know, they were in all of their cultural representations. So like the way their village was structured, their shields that they wore, the rituals that they

took place and were all in this circumpunct, which is the circle with the dot. And I'll actually talk a little bit about that today, just how the enemy, uses that circumpunk to empower. Like when you draw up that magic circle, it empowers the rituals and incantation. So you have the Timuquans that were, you know, sacrificing their firstborn son to the Timuquan chief. So you've got bloodshed on the land. You have idolatry.

And then after that years or hundreds of years later when there was some, a French family that owned Jekyll Island, the Dubunian family. And they brought. slavery onto the land. And they orchestrated the arrival of a slave ship called the wanderer. And that was 50 years after slavery was abolished or illegal in our nation. And so here you have this spirit of slavery that was brought to the island. And that was the seed bed for the Federal Reserve, which is a system of enslavement. And so it all ties in. And that's, yeah, it's essentially the crux of my book is how this Nephilim agenda has been inbred or rooted in the actual land of Jekyll Island.

And I can tell you, haven't been there. It's fascinating. It is a dark place. Even though it's a resort, I mean, we drove up and just took a perspective. And there are a couple and they're in all white playing croquet. It looks like it could have been out of, you know, turn of the century, England. And so there's this playground of the wealthy, but it is incredibly. heavy and dark there.

And when you cross over the bridge, back over the bridge out of Jekyll, it's just different. And I think, you know, people talk about these kind of things a lot. And I know some people will, you know, roll their eyes of those kind of kind of statements. But man, it wasn't, it was us three, you know, it's three big dudes that were there and and all had sort of the similar experience. And it's interesting to be sort of ground zero. I think that that was a really fascinating, you know, paradigm to be like, hey, this is where it happened.

it's connected to them potentially to a mound we know there were giants there and there's all these and so it was just it was a cool full circle and it's cool that to you know to know you and be able to kind of pick your brain as I'm like hey should I go and you're like I would go if I was there I just wouldn't take my pregnant wife yeah sometimes it feels like when you get that phone bill it's like the crash site document you can't read it there's a bunch of numbers random fees vague language stuff's blacked out you're like what am I actually paying for I don't know about you but I like keeping my money where I can see it. I like to be simple. I like to be easy. I'm going to be thrown away money on big wireless carriers. You too can say goodbye to overpaying for wireless.

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all these things, there's a Venn diagram of all these things overlapping, whether we talk about the Nephom agendas and things in the spiritual realm. And that's a bit where we're going today, right? Like when we had talked about, you know, doing another episode, you would said you really want to talk about inter-dimensionality and that, the concept around that. And and the intersection of that with our realm, if you will. And so we're going to, let's get into that. Because as Nate said at the beginning, it's interesting how all these things seem to build upon each other.

And as we get deeper, because we did do an episode with you on the circumpline in the Magic Circle. And that connects to, of course, to the Fed. And then we did some really amazing things with, you know, with Elle that expose a lot of the Nephilim agenda. And it just continues to build upon the previous episode. And also, I would say, our, you know,

library of episodes or the arc of our show. These things seem to be very timely. And, you know, one of the episodes that has been wildly, you know, wildly loved on our show is the, is the frequency episode we did with you. After we met, we saw you here and met up with the musicians here, and we talked about the power of frequencies and sound. And people, those things are, have been amazing gifts to a lot of folks in, in our space. And so excited to get into this. And just let us know where you want to start. Well, I, I'm equally excited because, One of the things that I do, I think I may have mentioned this at BlurieCon, but whenever I talk with an audience, I always ask the Lord for the scrolls for each audience. And so, you know, I will just wait until I hear, you know, kind of how he wants me to share and what he wants me to share.

And so today, I'm just so excited because, you know, if we think about the question, why is God at this time in history just bringing more understanding and knowledge and revelation about the next. Nephilim and these blurry creatures. You know, why now? And I think about, you know, your show, I think about this meteoric rise that you guys have experienced, you know, recently Tucker Carlson and Rosam Bars are talking about Nephlin. It's like, no way. Yeah. Yeah, wild. And, you know, we keep seeing sightings of these creatures. And so it's really, it's, it has caught the attention of people from all walks of life. And it seems like it's really now the topic at the water cooler, so to speak. In fact, it was funny a couple weeks ago, Tom, my husband and Bryson is my oldest son.

They are youth leaders in our church and they were at a youth leader meeting. And there's, I don't know, maybe 20, 25 people there. And they had two tables. Well, the one table that Tom and Bryson were not at were talking about Nephilim and Bigfoot. And they have no idea that I wrote a book on the Nephlim. So they asked Tom, they're like, Tom, what do you think about the Nephilim? And he just chuckles. And he says, well, my wife is Laura Sanger and she wrote this book. And they're like, she wrote a book. And so even in the churches now, they're starting to be an awareness. And so one of the things I think that is important to ask ourselves is why, why now? Why is God wanting us to understand this blurry world? And, certainly his ways are vast and his ways are so much higher than ours. So I'm not going to pretend to think that I know why or his ways. But I think, you know, one thing that he wants us to understand

is that the visible world is built upon the foundation of the invisible world. And I think about Colossians 116. This is for by him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers, all things were created through him and for him. And so I, you know, Yahweh wants us to understand that there is a spiritual realm, that the Bible is a supernatural book. He wants us to understand the seed war so that we can be victorious against these spiritual forces of darkness. I also think, you know, he wants us to understand how to cleanse our bloodlines and our genomes so that we don't have mixture and hybridization. So I'm just excited and just by way of giving you guys a little bit of an update since our

last interview on the War of Frequencies, at the end of that interview, I told Matt and Rachel Van Dievinder's story about just this download that they received from the Lord having to do with transdimensional music and Trinity Math. Well, Matt and I have been teaching a Zoom study called Foundations of TransDimensional Music. And we've been teaching it to some of these musicians, intercessors. We've got a producer and a vocal coach that are joining us. And we really believe that this is an important step of consecrating ourselves to be able to effectively steward this revelation of transdimensional music.

And so what I'm going to share today, some of that comes from what I've shared in these studies. And so if your listeners want to dive deeper, they can. It'll be available on Matt Van Deverndor's Rumble channel, which is Highway 35. And then it's also available on my YouTube channel, which is no longer enslaved. But before we think about, you know, stewarding transdimensional music, we have to recognize that we are transdimensional beings. You know, Ephesians talks about that we are seated in heavenly places. So it turns out that the blurry, creatures are not the only transdimensional beings. So Ephesians 2, 4 through 6 says, But because of his great love for us, God who is rich in mercy made us alive with Christ,

even when we were dead in transgressions. It is by grace you have been saved. And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus. In order that in the coming ages, he might show the incomparable riches of his grace expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. So we're seated in heavenly realms, which means we actually exist in multiple dimensions. Now, even though we exist in multiple dimensions, most people do not know how to live in multiple dimensions. So that's what I want to share with your audience today. And so I'm excited. What do you think, when you think of dimension, what does that mean to you? Because that's a hot, that's a hot term in the old blurry verse.

Well, dimensions are, so we think about first heaven, second heaven, third heaven. Those are examples of dimensions. So third heaven being where Jesus, the father, angels, spiritual beings, saints live, second heavens are both, you know, where the sun, moon, and stars are, but also where the enemy and his minions do battle in the second heavens. And then obviously first heavens is, you know, our land, earth, you know, the sky, the birds, those types of things. So that's one example of dimensions.

And as I impact this, hopefully it will make more sense about how we can live in multiple dimensions at once. And so, you know, when you think about the fact that we are transdimensional beings, you know, we are created in the image of God. So what is the image of God? That substance, light, and spirit. And so I want to just give us a couple of scriptures that show us this. So God as substance is Hebrews 1, 1 through 3. This is God having spoken many times and in many ways in time past unto the Father by the prophets, has in these last times spoken unto us by his son, whom he has appointed heir of all things, by whom also he has made the agent. who being the brightness of his glory and the express image of his substance and upholding all things by the word of his power when he made by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the majesty on high. And so in this passage, we see that Jesus is the expressed image of the substance of the father. We also know from John 1 14 that Jesus is the word made flesh.

So that's another example of substance. Well, God is also light. And we see that in 1 John 1 5. It says, this is the message we have heard from him and declare to you. God is light and in him there is no darkness. So with God being light, that means we are light, right? Because we're created in this image. Now, I'll get into this in a little bit.

But one of the most amazing things about light is it functions both as a particle and as a wave. It's transdimensional and it can operate out. outside of time. So keep that in mind and we'll come back to that. Okay. So then also God is spirit. And we see this in John 424. It says God is spirit and his worshippers must worship in spirit and in truth. Okay. So now as image bearers, we know that we are substance, light, and spirit. We're also body, soul, and spirit. Our soul and spirit can operate outside of time in other dimensions. Our body, is what keeps us grounded in chronos time. Now, Adam and Eve, when they were created,

they were created with the ability for both their body, soul, and spirit to operate outside of time. And I'll read Genesis 1. This is verse 16 and 17. Says, in the Lord God commanded the man, you are free to eat from any tree in the garden, but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. For when you eat of it, you will surely die.

Okay, so death then entered into the world after the fall. In Augustine, he actually speaks of these categories of human mortality. He says, humans are possible not to die, not possible not to die, and not possible to die. So what he means is that before the fall, it was possible for Adam and Eve not to die because they had access to the tree of life. After the fall, death was unavoidable. After Jesus came, you know, the second Adam, and he offered us, you know, salvation to resuscitate our spirits. You know, when we receive that free gift of salvation, then we are no longer capable of eternal death.

So Romans 5, 12 through 15 says, therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man and death through sin. And in this way, death came to all men because all sinned. For before the law was given, sin was in the world. But sin is not taken into account when there is no law. Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who was a pattern of the one to come. But the gift is not like the trespass.

For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God's grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many. Okay, so then for those of us that have our spirits reborn, we're seated in heavenly places. So how do we live in our identity as transdimensional beings? And this is where, you know, we think about how do we start doing that?

And it begins by cultivating an intimate relationship with Jesus. Now, in John 10, 9, he says, I am the door. If anyone enters by me, he will be saved and will go in and out and find pasture. So if you look at the etymology of these words, the Greek word for door is Thura, and it means portal. It means entrance, a door or a gate. So Jesus is a portal. He's a transdimensional door who gives us access to the Father in heavenly dimensions. Now, if we think about the threshold covenant, I'll share what that is,

because that gives us understanding as to the nature of this transdimensional door. So a threshold covenant is actually a conditional covenant. First example of it in the Bible is Passover. And we read about that in Exodus 12. This is 21 through 27. It says, then Moses summoned all the elders of Israel and said to them, go at once and select the animals for your families and slaughter the Passover lamb. Take a bunch of hyssop, dip it into the blood in the basin, and I'll come back to that word basin, and put some of the top and some on the sides of the door frame.

Not one of you shall go out the door of his house until the morning. When the Lord goes through the land to strike down the Egyptians, he will see the blood on the top and sides of the doorframe and will pass over that doorway, and he will not permit the destroyer to enter your houses and strike you down. Obey these instructions as a lasting ordinance for you and your descendants. When you enter the land that the Lord will give you, as he promised, observe this ceremony. And when your children ask you, what does the ceremony mean to you, then tell them it is the Passover sacrifice to the Lord who passed over the houses of the Israelites in Egypt and spared our homes when he struck down the Egyptians. Then the people bowed down and worshipped.

You said this place was steps from the water. We just haven't found the steps yet. How much did we save? Enough. Enough to get lost. Or you could book a stay with Hilton. Welcome to your ocean front room. Just steps from the water. The Hilton sale is on now. Book on Hilton.com or the Hilton app and save up to 20% to get the stay you. expected. When you want savings, not surprises. It matters where you stay. Hilton for the stay. Okay, so if we look at the Hebrew word for basin there, it's soft and it means bowl, basin, threshold, gate, door, or post. Now, it's interesting in ancient days, before there were temples, before there were sacred places to worship, the ancients worshipped at their door, at the entrance to

their door. And so they would carve out these notches or grooves in their doorpost and they would pour the blood of a sacrificed animal into that groove. And they did that as an act of establishing covenant. They were making a threshold covenant with a God for protection and provision for their family. Now, the father was the priest of the family in the ancient days. And so the altar was the threshold. The other thing is in Ezekiel 10, verse 3 through 5, we learned some more about a threshold. It says, now the cherubim, we're standing on the south side of the temple when the man went in, and a cloud filled the inner court. Then the glory of the Lord rose from above the cherubim and moved to the threshold of the temple. The cloud filled the temple, and the court was full of the

radiance of the glory of the Lord. The sound of the wings of the cherubim could be heard as far away, is the outer court, like the voice of God Almighty when he speaks. Okay, so now again, digging into the etymology, the Hebrew word for threshold in this passage is Mifton. And according to Brown Driver-Briggs Hebrew English lexicon, what it means is it has to do with a cross beam and a carpenter. And so the Hebrew word word for threshold describes a carpenter carrying a crossbeam. which is a beautiful picture of Jesus hundreds of years before he would be carrying the cross to Galgotha.

This is what the threshold means. And so it's Jesus, you know, the Passover lamb, he is the threshold covenant. He was the threshold sacrifice. And we cross over that threshold into relationship with the father. Now there's an interesting book called The Miracle of the Scarlet. thread, and this is by Dr. Richard Booker. I'm just going to read an excerpt. It says, when the people applied the blood in the threshold to the doorway, they were inviting God to cross over the threshold into their home as their protector from the angel of death.

God didn't pass over. He crossed over. God entered into a threshold covenant with them. He crossed the bloodstained threshold and stood in the door to keep the executioner from entering the home. death could not claim them God himself was the door. The executioner could only enter the homes of those who did not have the blood. Well, then in Galatians 4, verses 4 through 5, it says, but when the time had fully come, God sent his son, born of a woman, born under law, to redeem those under the law that we might receive the full rights of sons. So this threshold covenant was a picture pointing the ancients to the epic of time when God himself would come in the flesh to be the sacrifice of the Threshold Covenant. And then Booker goes on to write, he says, Galatians 44 tells us that in the fullness of time, the one true God, the creator of heaven and earth, the great I am, the one who was, who is and who is to come, crossed over the threshold of time and space and became one of us. The same God who revealed himself to the Hebrews in Egypt through the bloodstained

threshold would lay aside his blazing glory and dazzling beauty in heaven and become one of us. So as the threshold, what Jesus does is he allows us to cross the threshold of the fourth dimension of time and space and to exist in a multitude of dimensions. Now remember, as image bearers, you know, God is light and we are light beings and that allows us to function in these multiple dimensions. Well, you think about Jesus' prayer to the Father in John 17. It says, I am coming to you now, but I say these things while I am still in the world so that they may have the full measure of my joy within them, for they are not of the world

any more than I am of the world. My prayer is not that you take them out of the world, but that you protect them from the evil one. They are not of the world, even as I am not of it. Sanctify them by the truth. Your word is truth. As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world. So we are not of the world, but we're sent into the world. So we have got to get the world systems out of us. If we are to be able to truly say we're not of the world, there are Babylonian systems that are still operating. These are systems of enslavement, idolatry, false. prophecy and this defiled music.

And you think about, you know, King Nebuchadnezzar, he actually used sound and music to entrain the thoughts of his subjects, leading them into idolatry. So he essentially used mind control techniques. And this is in Daniel 3, 4, 3, 3, 3, 7. It says, then the herald loudly proclaimed, this is what you're commanded to do, O peoples, nations and men of every language. As soon as you hear the sound of the horn, flute, zither, leer, harp in all kinds of music, you must fall down and worship the image of gold that King Nebuchadnezzar has set up.

Whoever does not fall down in worship will immediately be thrown into the blazing furnace. Therefore, as soon as they heard the sound of the horn, flute, zither, leer, harp, and all kinds of music, all the peoples, nations, and men of every language fell down and worship the image of gold that King Nebuchadnezzar had set up. So you can see this music had a hypnotic mind-controlling pull on the Babylonians and also the exiles of Judah. But from scripture, we know that the only ones that didn't bow a knee were Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah.

So how were they able to resist? And they were able to resist because they didn't give in to mixture when they came to Babylon. See, these were young men. In scripture, it says that they were without physical defect. They were handsome. You know, they were showing aptitude of every kind of learning. They were quick to understand. And, you know, they qualified to serve in the king's palace. Well, kind of like all our culture now, if you're, if you're good looking, if you're talented, you know, you can get all of these perks and you get offered all of these benefits. Well, similar, Hananiah, Azariah, Mishael, and Dan, Daniel had all these benefits. You know, they were given or offered the delicacies from the king's table and these treatments in the king's palace. But they resolved not to give in to mixture. And I think this is important for us.

As we think about how can we be transdimensional beings, we have to get mixture out of us. We need to repent of ways that we've allowed that mixture. because when we do that and we're cleansed of it, the power of the enemy is impotent against us because we don't have any hooks by which he can reel us in. And I want to get back to something I said about us being light beings that we operate in multiple dimensions outside of time. But I want to pause there because I know you guys, I could see, Nate, you're percolating. Yeah, I mean, well, I was going to say, you know,

coming from sort of my music background. There you go. Just living in vans, bro. Living in a van. Like, I remember a few moments where, you know, I hung out with a lot of these people. A lot of people I knew went on to, it was weird,

like seeing friends go on to win Grammy Awards and then become a big deal in the space. And at one point, we were just kind of hanging out backstage, talking about these things. And it felt like there was this graduation to another level where their music, began to become

like I always thought it was weird that you could have your music be massive in one country and not in another country. So I saw a lot of that. Like what is, what about that country makes this artist massive? And there was always a spiritual element to music. Like Hasselhoff.

Like Hasselhoff was huge in Germany. Not so much here. It's true. I mean, I make a joke, but it's true. Yeah. There's something else going on here entirely. Like, I remember we played a show in Japan for specifically. And the lead singer of this Japanese band's

go out on stage. He told me this word to yell. And he said, stick your fist in the air and just watch what happens. And I'm like, is this creepy? He's like, no, no, no. It's just a joke that I do, but, but just do it. So I go out. It's like 3,000 kids are in downtown Tokyo. And I step back from the mic because everyone in Japan is super polite between songs. They're just quiet and they just listen. And I just stick my fist in the air and I yell the word, this Japanese word, he told me. And 3,000 people went, oh, oh, oh, right back at me. And I was like, what just, what just happened? And 3,000 people all in unison did exactly what I did.

And I was like, that was the most wild thing that I've ever experienced at a show. And the power of music, the power of that moment, the power of being on stage. I can imagine these three guys, it didn't work on them. Where they were, where their allegiance was, the power of God was in them. And all these sort of this magical, we're going to. to get you we're going to get you in we're going to rope you in you're going to be singing along to our words you're going to be in our control doesn't work on them the spirit of god and we're all empty vessels and the rest of them were being used and they they weren't an empty vessel they had

the spirit of god in them i guess we could debate that what you know when does the holy spirit come and all that but i would say that uh a lot of people don't realize in the modern era because it's more underground that they are. Their vessels being filled up, and they're being used, manipulating, controlled. And I just saw that in the music world, just for a few years, maybe six or seven years of doing it. Those are a lot of thoughts.

And I've been processing that for years of like, why certain artists, why certain songs, what is it about it, you know? But some of them, like the Taylor Swift we see now, and she literally has complete control of her crowd and her audience, and she's doing a lot of, like visually stuff that looks very occult. And you're like, what is going on here, really?

So those are just some stories and thoughts that I have. I can understand what you're saying. And I can put myself in an ancient context and sort of, and I think of like Shadrach, Meshach and Abendigo, kind of the same thing, you know, like these stories where there's a small group of people who don't, like, no, I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to, I'm not going to participate. I'm on a different wavelength on a different level.

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Kayak, got that right. Well, just, I love what you're sharing because it all ties. in just for clarification, Hananiah, Michelle, and Azariah are Shadrach Mishak and Abedegh. That's what I thought. That was their Hebrew names.

And when they got to Babylon, they were given these Babylonian names. And for a long time, I would refer to them as Shadrach, Mishak, and Abendigo. And I realized, wait a second, those are cursed names

that were given to them. We should call them by their given names. So anyways, just for your audience as well. I thought so. I was like, And they were hunks. This is, I mean, these two's legate, legacies, they were just, they were, they were smart.

They had it going on. They had it going on, apparently. You're just, Laura, you're just saying their hipster names, right? You just, yeah. Yeah, there you go. Okay, cool. There you go. I didn't know you was speaking hipster.

I'm not that cool. The point I want to come back to you that you guys are making is it's about consecration. And, you know, people can be used unknowingly. like Taylor Swift fans will go with that example. She leads her fans into false worship, and they unknowingly can enter into that false worship. And that's why it's so important to get that mixture out of us. And I'm going to talk about sound portals in a minute

and the impact that sound portals have on us. And it just is so important that we consecrate ourselves. And what it means to consecrate ourselves is you set yourself apart. You don't do what everyone else is doing in the world. You set yourself apart. That also means to be made holy. And so that's what Hannah and I, Azray on Michelle did, is they refuse to go along with what everyone else is doing.

And that's what we need in order to steward this transdimensional music. Okay. So one of the things I want to go back to, though, that I was talking about is, how do we operate outside of time? And this gets into the quantum world. So you guys ready? Okay. I mean, we're always here.

Let's go, Marty. Okay. So this quantum world, one of the things I'm fascinated by it is really it's because it's this bridge between the natural world and the spiritual world. So it's the bridge between science and spirit. Well, quantum mechanics has actually discovered operations that occur outside of our fourth dimension of space and time. And I want to read an excerpt from a book called Quantum Glory by Phil Mason. He says the non-local quantum world appears to be kind of invisible intermediate buffer zone between spirit and matter.

It appears that the non-local quantum realm has been strategically crafted by God directly responsive to the influence and activity of the spirit. of God. So these non-local quantum realities are capable of materializing into a localized spatial formation. So it appears that the effects of quantum mechanics are irrespective of time and space. And this becomes evident in delayed choice experiments. So I want to tell you about a study that was published in 2001. And this is in the British Medical Journal. And it was an experiment done by an Israeli doctor named Libavichi. And he studied the effectiveness of remote and retroactive intercessory prayer on sepsis patients.

And so in his study, he had 3,393 patients that were hospitalized for sepsis. And they were randomly selected for the control group and the intervention group. So the intervention group received prayer and the control group did not. And what the researchers looked at is they measured the impact of prayer on the duration of high fever, on the length of hospital stay, and on mortality rate. And what they found is those in the intervention group had shorter hospital stays. So these are the ones that received prayer. Shorter hospital stays, less days with high fever.

Now, mortality rate was not statistically different, but those in the interventional, group actually did have less mortality, but it just wasn't statistically significant. So you look at this study and you think this is awesome because it proves the power of prayer, which is what we know. But what's shocking is that the prayer was offered up in the year 2000. These patients were hospitalized in the mid-1990s. So anywhere between four to 10 years before the prayer was offered, they received the benefits from the prayer. Does that make sense? No, explain that again.

So, they, these people were six, four, six years into sepsis? No, so they were, they had sepsis in the hospital in the mid-1990s. And then they were discharged, you know, several days after, a couple weeks after, depending on what their length of stay is. then four to 10 years later, depending on when they were hospitalized, these people offered up intercession, prayed for them in the year 2000. Their prayer in the year 2000 impacted the patients four to 10 years before. So this shows how our soul and our spirit, when we come into alignment with our soul and spirit,

how we can operate outside of time. That's wild. So they're praying for people in the past. And there's a statistically significant difference for those who received the prayers. It benefited them in lower or less days with high fever and a shorter hospital stay. Even though the prayer could have been offered up four to 10 years later after the fact. Who decided this is a wild idea? Who decides they're going to be like, let's pray now for people in the past.

We're not going to tell you who recovered and who doesn't. Well, the quantum world is like the wild, wild west. So it gets even more interesting. Can you sense the link for the study too so we can put in our show notes? Because I find that's just like, this is like a mind blowing. This is a idea in and of itself. Hey, you know. You know.

Oh, here you go. Well, I can tell by your smile. I know something's happening here. I've had this idea before. I made a joke and almost got all the jambo juices shut down in Southern California because I sent an email to our keyboard player's sister from his phone and said, she worked a Jamba Juice. And I said, don't drink the Jamba Juice on Monday.

Signed Future Stephanie. And I sent it to her. And she believed in the parallel universe. And so she told her boss, they believed in the parallel. They almost shut down all the Jama juices because of this. joke. This joke that I sent from her future self, right? And we didn't know because we sent it at like two in the morning on a drive from Arizona to wherever. And I'll never forget that bold because they, the district, they all were debating the parallel universe as a bunch of managers of

Jomajus. If it was really a thing, if you could really send yourself an email from this. It's like straight out of the office, dude. It's the future Dwight. Yeah, it totally was. Someone poisons the office. Do you not drink coffee? I thought, I thought, She's never going to believe this. She did. So, yeah, this is a wild concept. But a lot of people believe this, Laura. And a lot of, like, maybe more of a, maybe more of a sci-fi version of this.

But. So hang on. Here's where we're going. Okay. Okay. So what this study shows is that when our soul is an alignment with their spirit, we can operate outside of time. Now, people.

without a regenerated spirit. So their spirits are not born again. They're not followers of Jesus. They also can operate outside of time, but they do it through their soul. Like this is like astral. Like we've talked a few folks. And they're called about how they would leave, do out of body stuff and they'd go places. And actually, we had one, Nate, we had one girl talk about, she'd pull her,

she could pull herself outside of space time when she was doing some of this stuff, which well, I've, I've thought about this a lot on her show, Laura, because I, I, I wonder if some of these UFO sightings, like, when are they? Because people will see them and then they're like gone. And they can affect gravity and so they can affect time. When are they? Are they, is that happening right now or is that happening in the past or is that happening in the future? I've thought about that.

UFO sightings might. This show just, this show just starting to break my brain. But, well, see, because people have timed problems. They will be abducted or they will have and they won't, they'll be, At one place, several people who sent us messages, I was here and then I wasn't there. I was at home. And I don't know how I got there. I have no memory.

I walked around a corner and I had gone 30 miles. How's that possible? And I don't remember there being any gap in time. So time travel, dilation, abductions, it's strange. And people have flown through, you know, they've been pilots have flown through these like. Yeah, but you're a triangle like wormholes almost. Yeah. Right, right.

And they're an hour ahead of schedule. So Christians probably don't want to talk about these things because it feels unnatural. It causes them to wait, what? How do I make sense of this with my faith in the gospel? But I'm not smart enough to talk about. I'm just saying that I've pondered it a lot. Well, that's why I want to bring it back to the Bible and ground us in the Word of God because it actually speaks about it.

So again, our soul is our mind, well, and emotions. Our soul is also light. Remember I said we are created in the image of God. We're substance, light, and spirit. So our soul is light. And we see this in Matthew 6, 22 through 23. This is the lamp of the body is the eye. If therefore your eye is good, your whole body will be full of light.

But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be. full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in you is darkness, how great is that darkness? Now we're going to come back to that in a minute. I want to look at, again, some of the etymology of these words. The eye is seen as the window to the soul. And we get that by looking at the Greek word for I in this passage. It's ophthalmos. And if you look at the Thayer's Greek lexicon, it means the eye is the index of the mind. It also means it's the faculty of knowing. Okay, so that speaks of the mind. It also means to be envious. So now we're speaking of emotions. And then it also means to have an evil eye towards your brother that speaks of will. So again, our soul is mind, will, and emotions.

Well, as image bearers of Yahweh, we don't want to operate in transdimensional soulish realms because we can fall into false light. And that's what this passage is addressing. You know, it talks about the light that is in you is darkness. Well, how can light be darkness? And that's the false light. It's because it appears good, but it's really darkness because it leads people away from the true light.

And this is happening a lot in the Christian church right now. So when our soul... Laura, is that in the same way that they talk about Satan masquerade? as an angel of light, the same sort of concept where this is false, it's this deception. Absolutely. Absolutely. And so when our soul, which is light, is operating in other dimensions without being in proper alignment with our spirit, that's how we operate in false light.

Now, one way people do this is by using intention. Now, we can be well-meaning good intentioned people, but if we lead by intention and not by the spirit, we are operating in other dimensions through our soul. An intention actually operates outside of time, and that's evidenced by these delayed choice experiments. Now, as I mentioned, light behaves both as a wave and a particle. So these delayed choice experiments, they involve photons passing through a double-slit screen.

And somehow these protons are presciently accurate to align with the observer's choice or intention as to how the photon will pass through the slits. So it doesn't change the outcome if the observer was delayed by time in making the choice. So without fail, these photons behave like the observer intended it to, even when the observer makes the choice after the fact. And that lines up with what I shared with that, that research experiment with the prayer happening after the fact. So intention is the part of our slits.

that operates under the quantum mechanics principle of non-locality. Laura, can I ask a question about this real quick? Yes. Is this connected to when you're in operating and through Christ? Is this connected to like the new age idea of manifesting or you sort of push your what you try to will things? Yes. To existence selfishly. It's the idea of like I'm going to, you hear this a lot now.

Like I'm going to manifest this. I'm going to manifest that, which is a weird word. could you think about the one all I make things about like the manifestation of demons right you have this manifestation and but at the same time it's this idea of and maybe this and i was just wondering if this is the same idea that you yes and so what they're doing is they are entering into another dimension through their intention and they're letting their intention lead the way not their spirit connected to the holy spirit and that's what leads to false light yeah i mean i mean that that wades explained there because it sounds all hoaxed you

and stupid and you hear a lot of athletes especially we'll talk about about this but they're not the only ones it's it's it's i just think that's what for it comes to mind first i'll listen to interview with james winston recently about manifesting and yeah but it's it's this idea that like you can it's very new agey bads bad juju stuff because they're literally trying to to to cause causally make this thing happen in their life that they've willed for themselves which is of course not not the will of god as we're meant to walk in the will of god so that's that's a really fascinating breakdown because I've heard of that proton experiment and it's so interesting. You know, you're getting these really strange places that are hard for some people because of

the realities. But these are actually like quantifiable experiments of the people, you know, with that are peer reviewed that have, that have, you know, a hypothesis is a result. This is empirical science. And you go, but the way it operates feels like juju. I always think of when the Bible, you know, sort of tells us not to practice nicromancy. It isn't that it's not possible. It's not possible to do these things. It's that you don't know. You have no idea what you're doing. And I think so many of us, especially in the new age, they don't know what they're doing. So you're not tapped into the power of God. You don't know what you're tapped into and you don't know what can happen. It doesn't mean things that don't benefit you won't happen. But ultimately,

they will trick you. And I just think that sometimes we tend to read them as it's not possible. You can't talk to it. You can't talk to people in the realm of the dead or whatever and Shaul or that's not possible. That didn't happen. It's like, no, it is possible. And you don't want to try. You just don't want to try. You don't want to crack open Pandora's box, so to speak.

But it's also interesting, too, that, you know, we get the Holy Spirit, you know, that the new age is a counterfeit version of what we're supposed to, the things that Christianity teaches us that are possible. So there's also this other side of Christians who are almost afraid of the spiritual, nature of their faith. So they don't, they don't do anything. They don't want to be new age, but they also don't really want to, they're afraid of what God could do through them. So how do you find this balance? How do you know what power you're actually tapping into? How do you hear the voice of God? Because I've heard a lot of things in my life that don't sound like the voice of God that are, God told me, this is the hardest part about being a Christian. How do you know? How do you know? and I've heard everything.

And somehow, I'm sure, Luke, you've heard it all too. And it's like, we get skeptical. Like, I don't know, bro. But I think back to the beginning of this conversation, right? I think to your point, Nate, the difference is it's a different door. Like literally all of that, all of the New Age occult, all these things that are wrapped up in this new age idea or spirituality idea, et cetera, is just a back door or the wrong door. It's absolutely the wrong door. It's a door, though, into the counterfeit of the way of guys' design.

But like, this is the idea of like, you know, when we talk about the astral projection and people doing out of body or psychedelics is one that comes to mind as well. Like the DMT stuff, these people are absolutely going through the wrong door into real places. Or a lesser deities. And speaking with real entities, right? Yeah. But it's the wrong. I mean, Christ is the door.

And this is, and, but the idea that you can access these realms or in quantums, et cetera, we've kind of talked about, just feels like in sort of the analogy of doors, it's the, it's the wrong, this is the, this is the wrong door, but there's still a doorway there that the enemy opens up. And it, and it, Matt, it looks like, it's false light. Like, hey, look, you can have, you insert new, insert new age statement. You can have this experience and it's. But it's, it's so subtle something.

times. That's the thing. It's just so subtle. Well, and I think that's why it's so important that we use discernment and we grow in our ability to discern spirits because you're right, Nate, it is so subtle. And this false light movement has really come into the church. And so people, I mean, I'm a prophetic person. I believe in prophecy. But there is so much prophecy that comes forth from the soul first. And that's that false light. And so you have to have. to be in proper alignment. Well, one thing I just want to kind of tie the pieces together with what I was saying is, you know, back to intention. Intention is that part of our soul that operates under the quantum mechanics of non-locality. So I want to explain what non-locality is. Essentially,

it's the notion that there's two subatomic particles that can be separated by vast distances that are still connected in another dimension. And this is the nature of quantum entanglement. And so the idea that it's impossible to be in two locations at once is actually shattered by quantum theory. Now, these photons are quantum particles that can be separated literally by millions of miles, but they're still linked together.

So when you do something to one, immediately the other one is affected. And I actually believe this is what Hitler and Mangala did. They were using these principles with their twin studies. And so, you know, twinning is a form of trauma-based mind control programming that uses non-locality and quantum entanglement. So you can have twins, one in an underground base, being tortured in rituals. And the other one seemingly living this normal, quote unquote, normal life.

Well, the one living the quote unquote normal life will experience the same torture as the one underground in these bases. Now, I share all of this to caution us that we need to walk in proper alignment. And one way we do that, it's just, it's simple, really. And it's, we take authority. And I often pray this. And I will tell my body, body submit to my soul. soul submit to my spirit and spirit submit to the Holy Spirit and no other spirits.

And that's when you practice walking in proper alignment. And it's so critical because, you know, we're called to operate in multiple realms, both in chronos time and outside of time. And one of the things the Lord has been teaching me recently is how to live outside of time, how to operate outside of time. And he's challenging me with my words, similar to what I shared in our last interview, you know, words are so powerful. And so he has told me no longer say I don't have time for that because that's actually a curse that keeps me bound to chronos time, linear time. And I realize that

even if I say I'm too busy, that also is a curse. And so I'm trying to correct the way that I speak so that I can learn how to operate outside of time. So I'll give you an example. You know, one of the things that I do, with every opportunity that comes my way is I pray. And I ask Jesus, is this something you want me to participate in? If he says yes, then I say yes. If he says no, I say no. And I don't always have to know the reason. I just, if I hear him, I just want to obey. That's how I want to live my life. Well, he is saying yes to a whole lot more than I feel comfortable with. You know, if I look at my schedule, my time, what I have on my plate, I don't think I can hand. handle one more thing and I hear him say yes, say yes to this. I'm thinking I don't understand how

this is all going to work. But it's because he's busy teaching me how to operate outside of time. And one of the things that I started years ago is I actually when I was writing the roots of the Federal Reserve is when I started it. And I just daily, I give him my time. I say, Lord, order my time. And, you know, I will have days where I have a completely full schedule and every single person cancels on me. And I know, okay, Lord, you've got something better for me that you wanted me to do in that day. And it's been so freeing just to hand him my time and say, order it, however you want. Well, when, you know, as I get these opportunities, so, for example, coming on your podcast,

I will ask the Lord for the scrolls. like I mentioned earlier. Well, sometimes asking for scrolls can take a couple of weeks of me praying and waiting on the Lord. Sometimes it's a couple of days. Sometimes it's a couple of hours. Well, I've had two instances within the last month where I have been sleeping at night. I wake up from a dream.

I roll over, go right back to sleep. In that momentary wake up, the Holy Spirit drops the scrolls for a podcast. And I realize it and I say thanks and then I go right back to sleep. And that is just him teaching me that I don't have to be so grounded to linear time that if I submit my time to him, he'll bless me and allow me to operate outside of time. Now, one of the other things that I want to get into is, you know, we've touched on it. And that is the impact of sound portals, how these sound portals, how these sound portals can actually help us understand how to walk in this transdimensional life that we have.

But I wanted to pause because that's a little bit shifting gears if you had anything else to add about operating outside of time. It makes me think of the story of Philip and how he was transported, right? And some people estimate he transported about 100 miles. And that's something that's come up a lot on our show is like, how did Philip get from one point? How did he do that? how did he, I don't know the details of the story, but I know it was a long distance and I know it was impossible without, but I just wondered did he go through some, was he, how did that happen?

How is that possible? But we have this story in, you know, in the Bible about somebody basically either time traveling or stepping through a portal and going from one place to another, like you're saying about how it's actually physically possible to do that. and I guess that was necessary in that moment. I don't know what you think about that story, but specifically a lot of people bring it up. Well, I love how the Bible gives us examples of the quantum world and how these things work.

Because like you were saying earlier, there's so many Christians who, because the New Age has co-opted so many of these theories and words, like frequencies, for example, I often get accused of being New Age. Well, yes, New Age has co-opted that phrase, but that doesn't mean the concept is New Age. God created it. We need to sanctify and reclaim what the enemy has stolen.

Well, similarly, with understanding the quantum world, for example, I think Christians get freaked out. They don't want to understand the spiritual realm. They don't want to understand how we are seated in heavenly places. What does that mean? we can actually live in multiple dimensions. Wait, that sounds new age. I don't want to have anything to do with that. And that's really why I think the Lord wanted me to share these things

because there's this massive fascination with blurry creatures. And rightfully so. I mean, it is fascinating. But what are we doing with that fascination? Are we recognizing that, oh, wait, as children of the Lord, we are created in his image. We actually are trans-dimensional beings as well. We're just not living that way.

Yeah, I know. I agree. And I think a lot of this show has taught Luke and I to sort of thinking differently in our own lives. But I've noticed in this last few years of how my prayers have changed and how my thoughts have changed about, you know, just walking through a divorce. How do I do that with kids? I didn't have time to do things.

And I remember telling God, like, I can't focus on the fear. in the negativity of trying to deal with walking through a divorce. I need you to take that so I can do blurry creatures. And I told people in our Costa Rica trip, I didn't have to step foot in court. And so since then, I've seen so many more of these things happen, specifically with the podcast and other things with my children. And it's been amazing to feel like I'm finally living out of, there's been hard days, it's been hard times. But more that I'm, the kingdom of heaven is an abundant one. And there's so many resources and there's so much love and there's way more than you realize and you can get it. And you can kind of jump into the stream of God and it takes

you all these wild places. But it's so much more rewarding. And I've been slowly kind of coming to realize that through some wild things the last few years that maybe it's just being in my 40s and finally just like throwing my hands up and like, I don't know. I seem to screw up everything, So maybe you help me do this, but we still have to do something. We still have to, like Luke and I, we still have to put content out. We still have to find our, like, what are we doing in this world? How are we helping people? And who are we in our families and our communities?

It's sometimes we get paralyzed like, God, make every decision for me. But he wants you to do something. He wants you to work out your salvation. He wants you to kind of put one foot in front of another. So as somebody who likes to dream, but actually, execute like okay i have this idea i have this thought that god is doing something i think it's hard for me laura when i i get an idea and i don't always know is this a good idea or a bad idea is this from god or not is this from me and i and it's just this weird pondering of what am i supposed to do

because it's like the big foot band like is that from the lord how many records do we put out I kid. It's the internal debate, and some people just get so paralyzed, they don't do anything. Or some people overly do it, and they say, God told me you need to give me all your money, you know, and it's like, that's not true either. Right. Right. It's that I trust God, but I have this humility aspect, too, that it's a dance.

It is. You can't kill it one way or the other, and I don't know always where that line is. It's the hardest part. It's the hardest part of the show. Like, is this content legit or not? Is this a good episode? Is this not? Are we putting out good?

What questions are we asking? Is this person deceiving us or not? And some people will get real angry because they think that they know. And Luke and I are like trying to leave room for what God wants to do with this show. But we also have to go with our gut in the same time. It's like a junior high dance. You've got to leave room for the Holy Spirit. you know and that's what that's what we're trying to do here but uh but you get to a certain age

where you don't want to dance like a junior higher anymore this is still a family show for the most part come on come on luke all right big red yeah that's true there's a lord laura let's get a sound let's get the sound portal it's go to sound portals here for the before we drive this blurry bus off the cliff completely no because people don't know they don't know what to do yeah and we get those emails daily. What do I do I do this? Do I do that? And I'm like, I don't know. I don't know how to answer those questions for you. I get those questions a lot too. And it's, I love what you're saying, Nate, because it takes learning the voice of the Lord. And how do we do that? We learn his voice

by spending time with him, by carving out time, by setting aside time, spending time at his feet, digging into his word. And when we practice that, when that becomes part of our life, then our ear is more tuned in to the sound of his voice. And you're right. I mean, it is over these last three years for me, I feel like, Lord, help me. I don't know.

Like, what is this? I keep running into things that are way beyond my comprehension. But I always go back to John, I think it's 1426. The Holy Spirit is the teacher of all things. So my favorite classroom is the one the Holy Spirit teaches. And I show up every day. I'm like, okay, Holy Spirit, what are you going to teach me today?

And our family, we do words for the year. Well, last year my word, I had two words, wisdom and discernment. And I grew so much in that area that I knew this year I needed more. So my words this year are wisdom and discernment. And what I have learned over this past year and growing in discernment is it's so important to be in community with solid believers, with mature believers. Because I'm able to, I've got a small group of people that I'm constantly texting almost on a daily basis, if not several times a day. We're bouncing around these theological ideas. We're digging into scripture.

But we're also saying, okay, what about this? what's your discernment? What are you picking up on that? And I am learning so much from being in community with people. So the things that are like blind spots in my own life are not in someone else's. And then I learn from that and I grow. So that's just an encouragement. It is.

Accountability is so important too, right? Like to have somebody that can have eyes on. It's not your eyes. Right. Yeah. And that's a good word. I mean, it is, it's a practice. It's meant to be a practice.

It's meant to be a daily meeting. And I think, yeah, Nate, to go to you, a discernment is the hard part. That's the real hard part, right? It's learning, you know, what does my voice sound like? What does God's voice sound like? And what is somebody else's voice that's in my head to sound like in parsing those? I think that's a tough thing for a lot of people. And it's often, as you say, it's often abused.

People will take that and say, God told me this. God tell me that. I mean, that's... God told me I should marry you. That's, hey, that's Christian College 101, right? He was telling all the ladies. That's slow. He's saying, you know, listen.

I mean, I can't. Yeah. Let's get the sound portals here. Let's get to sound portals. All right, Laura. Tell us, where are we going? Okay, sound portals. That's right.

All right. Now, to bring us back to what I talked about as far as Jesus being the transatl dimensional door. Well, the Lord uses sound portals as a means of bringing heaven to earth. And I'm going to share a couple of stories from the Bible. The first one is Gideon. Gideon is an example of this. So in Judges 634, it says, then the spirit of the Lord came upon Gideon, and he blew a trumpet summoning the Abizaites to follow him. Okay. So again, digging into the Hebrew word, that phrase came upon in the Hebrew is Lavas. And it means wrap around.

Like you would put on a garment or clothe yourself. And if you look in the Brown Driver Briggs, it means the spirit of God took possession of Gideon. So in other words, the spirit became incarnate in Gideon. And the next thing that happens is the sound of the trumpet comes forth. And so that sound is an example of transdimensional music or transdimensional music. transdimensional sound. Now the shofar, the trumpet, you know, is a common instrument in Israel. They used it frequently. So it's not that the instrument was connected to the transdimensional sound

or was the reason that sound came forth. It has to do with the spirit of the one using the instrument. So in this case, you know, the Holy Spirit was incarnate in Gideon. And the sound that came forth from that trumpet was the sound of the spirit. So it's one example of a sound portal that allowed transdimensional music to be released into the earth. Now, I'll share a personal story. I experienced transdimensional music at one point. So in 2014, I was teaching a class on informed intercession, which is part of spiritual mapping. I was teaching it in our church at the time. And kind of similar to what I do with podcast, I was waiting on the Lord. and asking him, what do you want me to teach, you know, for that particular night? And he led me to

Deuteronomy 8. Well, Deuteronomy 8 is a chapter about transition. The whole book of Deuteronomy really is about transition, but particularly that chapter. And so I was just sharing with the folks that I believe the Lord is saying we're in a time of transition. Well, one of the intercessors, she looks at me and she's like, Laura, do you know what today is? And I'm thinking Tuesday. I don't really know. It was in the fall in September, I think. And the sun had just gone down. And she said, Laura, it's Rosh Hashanah. It's the feast of trumpets.

We just transitioned into a new Hebrew year. Well, I kind of looked at her clueless because prior to that point, I had never paid attention to the Hebrew calendar or Hebrew feasts. I mean, I knew what Passover was, but that was the extent of it. So anyway, she begins just sharing with us about the feast of trumpets, about the appointed times of the year, the Passover, Pentecost, Feast of Tavis, So then this other gal in the class, she looks at us and she's like, well, I have a trumpet in my car. And I think, what?

Why do you have a trumpet in your car? She does not play trumpet. And so she said, well, I had dinner with my daughter. My daughter, you know, is on the University of Utah marching band. She said, will you bring my trumpet home? So we realized, okay, the Holy Spirit is setting something up here. Go get your trumpet. Or the trumpet.

It wasn't her. So she grabs it. comes back in. And she tells us, she's like, I don't know how to play a trumpet. And we look at it and we're like, you're playing that trumpet. And so we prayed. And we said, you need to blow it three times. Now, we did not have rhyme or reason as to why we came up with that number.

That's just what we sense the Holy Spirit say. Well, she blew that trumpet. And the sound that came forth catapulted me into another realm. It was like I passed through this memory. brain into another dimension. And suddenly I had this understanding of multiple ways that I had allowed mixture into my life. And I looked at her and I was like, what just happened? And all of us kind of sense the magnitude of this moment. So now back to the story of Gideon in judges six and seven. So when the Lord first appeared to Gideon, it was while he found Gideon threshing wheat in a wine

press. And so Gideon was living in fear of being raided by the Midianites. Now, typically what you do is you thresh wheat out in the open air because you toss it up in the air and the wind blows the chaff and the grains fall to the ground. Well, a wine press often was dug into the ground. And so the Lord found Gideon living in a state of oppression and fear. And I love this because it was at that moment that God spoke destiny into Gideon. And he said in verse 12, the Lord is with you, mighty warrior. Well, Gideon at that point in time was anything but a mighty warrior. But the Lord, you know, he had to build courage into Gideon. Gideon dealt with fear, but because he was obedient, the Lord could work with him. And so the Lord told him, you know, you need to tear down the

altar to bail that your parents and your kinsmen set up. You need to tear down the asherapoles and take the asherpoles and actually build an altar to the Lord. And so that's what Gideon did. Well, that was an act of consecrating himself, setting himself apart, ridding the, the iniquity from his generational line. Well, I mentioned, you know, Gideon struggled with fear. And that often caused him to be uncertain. But God was so patient with him.

You know, Gideon needed multiple confirmations. You know, when he was first talking with the Lord, he said, if it's really you, Lord, that I'm talking to, wait here while I go make an offering and bring it back to you. And then certainly, you know, Gideon needed the confirmation from the fleeces. Many people know that story. But also, after the Lord dwindles Gideon's army down from 32,000 to 300 as he's going to face the Midianites and the Malachites. The Lord says, if you're afraid to attack, go into the Midianite camp. and listen to what they're saying. And so Gideon goes down and he overhears a dream that one of the Midianites has.

And he knows that God's going to allow them to be victorious. Well, the strategy that the Lord gives him is in judges seven. I'll read 16 and then 20 through 22. It says, then he divided the 300 men into three companies. And he put a trumpet into every man's hand with empty pitchers and torches inside the pictures. Then the three companies blew the. trumpets and broke the pitchers. They held the torches in their left hands and the trumpets in their right hands for blowing. And they cried, the sword of the Lord and of Gideon. And every man stood in

his place all around the camp. And the whole army ran and cried out and fled. When the 300 blew the trumpets, the Lord set every man's sword against his companion throughout the whole camp. So the Midianites and the Amalekites essentially killed themselves when they heard the trumpet blasts. Now, if we look at the Hebrew word for that word around, as in every man stood in his place all around the camp. So the Israelites encircled the camp of the Midianites and the Amalekites. That word around is Sabib in the Hebrew. And it means circle, circuit, compass, and on every side. And if you look at round driver Briggs, it means circuit or roundabout. And then also in Gazaneous Hebrew Calde lexicon, it means circuits, circles, and orbits. And it's tied to Ecclesiastes

1-6, which says, the wind blows to the south and turns to the north. Round and round it goes, ever returning on its course. So here we begin to see the sense of movement. And this is how God operates. He operates in cycles, circles, circuits, wheels within wheels. And this is why Trinity math is cyclical, not linear. Now another passage that uses the same Hebrew word is Psalm 50 verse 3. And it says, our God comes and will not be silent. Okay, so he's going to bring a sound. A fire devours before him and around him a tempest rages.

So here's this whirlwind, the sound of the whirlwind. Well, if you look at the Hebrew root word for Saabib, it's Saabab. And we find that word in Second Samuel 5, which is another example of a transdimensional sound. So this is when David faces the Philistines in the Valley of Refayim, the Valley of the Giants. So the Philistines come against the Israelites, and the Israelites route the Philistines. So they're victorious. The Philistines regroup and they come to attack again. Well, David, so he faces. is the same army in the same location, but he doesn't rely on the same strategy that gave him victory the first time. Instead, he inquires of the Lord. And the Lord gives him this strategy in 2 Samuel 5, 23 through 24. It says, therefore, David inquired of the Lord. And he said, You shall not go up. Circle around behind them and come upon them in front of the mulberry trees. And it shall be, when you hear the sound of marching in the tops of the mulberry trees, then you shall advance quickly, for then the Lord will go out before you to strike the camp of the

Philistines. So David encircled around the Philistines, that's that word subab. And it means to revolve, surround, whirl, circuit, compass, and roundabout. Well, that's another example of a sound portal, which includes this circular movement. So the sound of marching on the tops of the mulberry trees was the sound of the Lord and the armies of angels that were coming through that sound portal from another dimension. And so here we see that the Lord's presence actually has this circular movement. Well, the enemy always creates the counterfeit. And that's what the circumpunct is. The circle with a doubt, it's the counterfeit. And so you've got sorcerers, you've got pagans and wikens that cast a magic circle to increase the power of their rituals and incantations.

And so what they're doing is they are using a formula to attach power to their magic. And this is why it's so critical with what I share about frequencies and about transdimensional music that we are not looking for a formula. People will reach out to me and say, I'm dealing with this. What frequency should I use? that's a formula. When we look for a formula, it leads us into false worship. We have to come before the Lord and say, Lord, what do you have?

What frequencies do you have for my circumstances? See, false worship involves those circumpunks. And I've talked about this before in your show. All throughout history, it reveals the Nephilim agenda. Well, that's because Lucifer is patterning his false. worship after what he witnessed in heaven. And we see the worship that encircles the throne in Revelation 4. I'll read verse 1. It says, after these things, I looked and behold, a door standing open in heaven. And the first voice which I hear was like a trumpet speaking with me saying,

come up here and I will show you things which must take place after this. Now remember, I mentioned Jesus is the transdimensional door or portal. So here he is in verse one of Revelation 4, he's standing as the door that's wide open so that we can join in the worship that encircles the throne. We don't have to wait until we die. We can join in that worship and enter into that dimension now being transdimensional beings. And then John says that he heard a voice like a trumpet. Well, this connects us back to that transdimensional sound that came forth from Gideon. It's the sound of the spirit after he became incarnate in Gideon. So if we look at verse 2 through 6 in Revelation 4, it says that once I was in the spirit

and there before me was a throne in heaven with someone sitting on it. And the one who sat there had the appearance of Jasper and Ruby, a rainbow that shone like an emerald encircled the throne. Surrounding the throne were 24 other thrones and seated on them were 24 elders. They were dressed in white and had crowns of gold on their heads. From the throne came flashes of lightning, rumblings and pearls of peals of thunder. In front of the throne, seven lamps were blazing. These are the seven spirits of God. Also in front of the throne, there was what looked like a sea of glass, clear as crystal. In the center around the throne were four living creatures and they were covered with eyes in front and in back. So here we have this picture of a heavenly circumpunct.

The most high is seated on the throne, then encircled around him as a rainbow, then around that is the four living creatures. Then you have the 24 elders. It goes on to say thousands upon 10,000 of angels, and then all of creation. And so this is a grand display of transdimensional worship. It's cyclical. So what the four living creatures are doing is they are crying, holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty who was and is and is to come. And they do that for all of eternity. And I used to think like, I get kind of boring. That's all you do over and over and over again. Can I get a different job? But one of the things the Lord challenged me with is his character is unending. So every time they cried out, holy, holy, holy, he shows them a new

aspect of his character and they eruct in praise all over again. And so it's this cyclical worship. They resound his praises. He responds by showing them a new aspect of his character and then they resound again. Now, with transdimensional music, there's not a linear definition. There's so many different aspects to it. But one way to describe it is it's this cyclical worship that I just described. And so what we do is we come before the Lord in silence and we wait until we hear the sound in heaven and then we resound that back. Then the Lord responds and we resound that back. Again, it's cyclical.

It's kind of like what David did when he was waiting to hear the sound on the top of the mulberry. trees. But what that takes is that requires us to set aside time, to create that space, to have that transdimensional relationship with Jesus. And that's what you were talking about, Nate, before is like, how do we, how do we do this? How do we learn to hear the voice of the Lord? Well, to bring it all the way back to what I was sharing earlier, Jesus invites us as the threshold to cross over the threshold into relationship with him and actually enter into his presence. See, humans, you know, we were designed with this insatiable desire for exploration. We could see it all throughout history.

And that's not by coincidence. It's by design. But God designed us that way so that we would fulfill that desire by exploring him. And as I just mentioned, God's character is unending, which means our exploration is without limits. And we can actually dwell in his presence and live in the world at the same time. And this is what it means to be in the world, but not of the world. So Jesus, as that threshold, as that portal to heavenly places, he teaches us how to do that. And I know an intercessor who practices the spiritual discipline of silence for the past 27 years.

And periodically, she'll come before the Lord in complete silence. So she doesn't have a journal, no Bible, no agenda, just simply sitting at Jesus' feet. And Psalm 4610 says, be still and know that I am God. I will be exalted among the nations. I will be exalted in the earth. Well, as she does this, as she spent time over the years in silence before the Lord, Jesus comes to her and pulls her into other dimensions. And she has journals filled with experiences inside the presence of Jesus,

also in the father's house, in other realms that Jesus takes her to. And that's because Jesus wants to teach us as the transdimensional portal, he wants to teach us how to live in multiple realms at once. And one of the things that the Lord told me, I think it was last year, no, is 2022. He said, if you live in my presence, the enemy cannot find you because the light of his glory actually blinds the enemy. And that's what I want to do is I want to learn to live inside of his presence. So how do we do that? And it's simple really.

And remember, we don't want to conjure up a formula by saying, okay, so if I pray this amount of many times a day and if I, you know, practice silence and if I fast, then God will do X, Y, and Z. Spiritual disciplines are not meant to be a formula. And I want to read just an excerpt from one of the Christian classics called the practice of the presence of God. And it says, Brother Lawrence insisted that it is necessary to always be aware of God's presence. presence by talking with him throughout each day. To think that you must abandon conversation with him in order to deal with the world is erroneous. Instead, as we nourish our souls by seeing God in his exaltation, we will derive a great joy at being his. So practicing the presence of God is the concentration of our soul's attention on God. It's remembering that he's always present with us.

And that's the most glorious way to live. And Brother Lawrence, he says, wouldn't we be happy if we could find the full treasure described in the gospel, nothing else would matter. It's infinite. The more we explore it, the more riches we will find. May we never stop searching until we have found it all. Let's go. Love that.

Thanks, Laura. Man, I was going to say, you know, you hear about Gideon and you forget the stories of the things that he did you think he's just sneaking into hotel rooms leaving bibles and drawers but you know that's his legacy but his real legacy is man like what a what a calling yeah i love these laura because i know there's just like there are so many layers to yeah it's hard to unpack it all to these to you know to the to our episodes and and you just such a great job of connecting and then unpacking it and then bringing it back around and connecting i just i feel like there's a richness in this It's like, you know, I'm going to listen to this again.

And I encourage people to do that. I know they do. They go back and relisten. But I always know these messages are timely too. And so, you know, thank you for being intentional about what you want to share and intentional about the way you share it and intentional about, you know, and giving us the honor to, you know, to get to sit in and talk with you and discuss these things.

Because, I mean, ultimately, this is, this is what. it's all about. It's about getting to know, you know, the, you know, Jesus getting to know the lover of our soul, getting to know the, you know, our savior. And I think sometimes the simple things are the hard things, right? It's about intentionality of spending time and sitting, sitting at his feet and asking him what he wants to do. Because oftentimes I think we approach, our naivity, we approach God with what we want to do, right? And I think, and I think God in his in his fatherly ways he's probably mildly amused by that. Well, also just like how much more you understand what Christ does for us too

and how much, like you grow up hearing like, oh yeah, Jesus is the way, you know, and you're like, okay, yes, but then you start to understand the weirder aspects of dimensions and time and all the things that we kind of explore in our show. You're like, oh, there's so much more going on here. There's definitely so much more going on. and I do have a serious question for you, Laura. What do you think about a grown man dressed in a Sasquatch suit that calls himself saxquatch?

Is that trans-dimensional music? He's blowing a horn and he's dressed as a Sasquatch. We get that. People send that as that guy all the time. I think something else is going on there, Luke. I don't think so. It's probably Christian Bruins. Anyway, sorry.

I knew when you said I have a serious question. Yeah, it wasn't going to be serious. Laura, we just, you know, we, we love you. I think these are such timely messages. And it's been, it's a privilege, it's been an unbelievable privilege to have stumbled across you and your family on Amazon and, and to be, you know, to be here and, and you get to see you in the next month. And, yeah, I think you're a well, you're a well and wealth of knowledge.

And again, I just, I just appreciate how intentional you are. are with with these subjects. And how much you, I know, I know you, you delve into the research and then also mull over these things to make sure that what you're, what you're speaking about, the things you are, you are teaching are the things that, that God wants you to speak. And I think that's, the intent, intent, intentionality of that and the thoughtfulness of that is not, is not lost on us. And so we're just, we're grateful. We love you. We love Tom and, and your family. And I think I look forward every time that we get to put you on the calendar and see you. And so if you want, let everybody know, because you're doing a bunch of things you said in the show. You said yes to a lot of

things didn't think you had time for. So let us know what you got going on. And obviously where people can interact with you, whether it be YouTube or your website or both. Let everybody know what's going on with Dr. Laura Sanger and crew. And crew, yes. Well, if anyone wants to reach out to me, the best place is just to start with my website, which is no longer enslaved.com. And then my book, Roots of the Federal Reserve, is available on Amazon or off my website. I narrated it. I did that last year. And that was, that was a journey. It's harder than you think. But I'm super thankful. I was able to do that. So it's available on Audible. The Spanish version is in the final stages. I'm so excited. That'll probably be published within the next month or so.

Laura, Laura, did you do like an Australian and English versions where you use an accent? No, no. It's a thought. It's a thought if you want to continue. Write it in old English. I just want to hear Laura, Laura, do it in Ozzy, you know. Yeah. I'm not sure about that.

But then also we are in the midst of writing my second book. I'm almost, I've got two more chapters. to write. So I'm excited about that. The working title, I still haven't worked it out with my publisher, but essentially it's the impact of the Neflem agenda today. And so I'm looking at a lot of the research, transhumanism, transgenderism, just the mind control technology, a lot of those things and how the Neflem agenda is impacting us in our daily lives today. So I've been working on that. I think going to be working on a children's book with an illustrator. So that will be fun. and just doing a lot of different traveling conferences, things like that.

So I am super excited to come to BlurieCon too whenever that happens. But if people want to follow me, I'm also on Instagram. And because of Nate, Nate got me on Instagram, which I'm actually very thankful for. Way to go, Nate. That's what I do. I'm Laura Sanger 444 Hertz on Instagram and Telegram. Thanks, Laura. We love you.

We're looking forward to the next book and the next time. Yeah, can't wait to see you guys. Can't wait to see you as well. We'll see you here in a few weeks. Thanks, Lord. Hopefully, yeah. All right, take care, guys. Give our best of the fan.

Stay alert. I will. You as well. All right. Bye. Bye, Laura. So good to see you.