Blurry Creatures - EP: 231 The Codes Of Civilization with Ali Siadatan

Episode Date: April 9, 2024

We welcome back Ali Siadatan to expound upon his last two episodes and get into the mysteries of ancient civilizations and how every great culture acquired the codes of civilization from heaven itself. From the writings of Sumerian culture to the advanced knowledge of the Maya, Ali Siadatan's breakdown is a journey through time revealing the cosmic origins of every human civilization. Tune in to unlock the ancient keys to our past and gain a new perspective on our shared heritage. Support the show! www.blurrycreatures.com/members Opening Track: Marvel 83 "Kumite" Socials instagram.com/blurrycreatures facebook.com/blurrycreatures twitter.com/blurrycreatures Music Kyle Monroe: tinytaperoom.com Outro Song: TimeCop1983: timecop1983.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The sacred scriptures written in that language, the Unumma Elis, that was their sacred tongue. And so no one could read it, even they were no longer operative. in it but Ashurbanipal had created a dictionary tablet so that he could read it and he said that the god of the scribes had taught him how to read the ancient engravings even from the days before the flood and so as a king he was to memorize all the knowledge of his civilization he was also a priest and apparently he had some sort of a you know tutelage also it seems he said from the gods now whether that's like just like you know he's just lifting himself up or whether it was was real, I don't, it could be very well real that they were giving him some sort of insight. And so using his dictionaries, we were able to read the ancient tablets. And that is where, you know, when you read those ancient writings, and I'm going to open them up for you guys tonight, it sounds very different from the Greco-Roman midst. You really get to feel that this is actually history, like you're reading something real. The history of our earth is so different from what we can

imagine. The Smithsonian, that if they found out about a large skeleton somewhere, was to go get it. I'm going to assume at least one person is right, because if one person's right, it's right to bust the paradigm. It all goes back to the fallen chair. And the problem with the modern day church, they have a very truncated view of the supernatural. This backdrop that's just pregnant with all kinds of meaning associated with this Mount Herman event. And this guy defecated. from the kingdom. That's a big deal. We got a lot of 80s love on their show. We love the, we love the trilogy, Ali. Welcome back to blurry creatures for the third time. We had you on episode

199, and we talked UFOs Angels and Gods, your film. And then episode 219, we did the throne of Satan. And now we're back for the trilogy with the codes of civilization. And we're excited about this one. We're going back to the old west. Yeah. That's the third part of Back to the Future. Yeah. No, that's right. Ali, it's been great to have you back. I think there's something special. happens when you come on our show and people love, you mean, love your testimony, love your story in general. And you have a unique perspective being from Iran. You're not growing up in the church, like a lot of folks in the blurry creatures around maybe have. And not everyone. That's a

broad brush, but I think. And you're blurry. You were blurry before it was cool. Yeah, you were. You were talking to Chuck Missler like 06, but you're, you're one of the, the OGs in the space. But we're excited for a third part. We kind of suss this out, I think, after the first episode that we want to do three parts. But something very cool. In addition to, of course, this being the trilogy episode with Ali, we are going to offer something very special to our members, the week of Passover. So this will be Nate, April 25th that night. At 7.30 Central. For our members.

This will be a members-only event. Ali is going to do a live show presentation with us on the Lamb of God and the gods of Egypt. So very timely, of course, during the week of Passover, in the time after Easter in that season. And we talk about the resurrection of Christ. And then all the things in the Old Testament, like what's happening with the Passover and the gods of Egypt? So we're going to do that. We've announced it already.

We're reminding you here that this special members-only event is going to be only for blurry creatures members. If you're not a member and you'd like to join, we're going to do about an hour with Ali about the Lamb of God and the Gods of Egypt. And we're going to do a live Q&A so you can come listen to essentially a live blurry creature's show. and then at the end have direct access to talk to Ali, ask questions about anything you presents

and really probably knowing Ali, you can ask him just about anything. You want to hear about the UFO going down to the sands of the deserts in the Middle East. You can also probably get a little bit of that. But that's a very cool thing we're going to do with our friend, Ali, here on the week of Passover. April 25th, put on your calendar, 730 Central.

That's right. We only have like 500 tickets. So to this event, digital tickets, if you want to come to this event, and we'll probably send out an invite early, right, Luke, so that people can RSVP. Yep. So, you know, by the time this airs, you should have, should have had, you've already heard about this, but this is a reminder, and there will be an email.

We're going to have you RSVP because they're going to be limited spots. But with, yeah, you know, with that said. Yeah, what's the codes of civilization, Ali? We need to know. Yes. So, you know, I made this documentary of UFOs Angels and Gods, and at the beginning of it, the narrator says, all the civilization, attribute their genesis to the gods.

And then I show like all the different scriptures of the world as images, as he said, the narrative are saying that. And what is that all about? Once I realized that the gods were real beings, and I found, you know, all these verses in the Bible that were talking about them and understood the whole, you know, the puzzle, how it came together in Discovery, Discovery 2, verse 8 and 9, because Chuck Mistlow was talking about that and other people.

Well, anyways, we've talked about this before so people can listen to the first show. Then I got curious as to, wow, if these guys are real, what do we know about them? And so when I started to study the different pantheons and got to Mesopotamia, you really noticed a significant difference. When you start reading the Mesopotamian tablets, they don't sound like the Greek and Roman stories, which are actually drawn and inspired from the Mesopotamian tablets, virtually all of the pagan religions can draw back to Babylon and also to the land of Shinar,

which is the civilization that Noah and his son established, according to Genesis chapter 11 after flood. It says they came from the east and settled on the land of Shinar. And the land of Shinar was discovered by these archaeologists. And what they discovered, I don't know if you guys know the story of archaeology, how it came about to be. In the 18th century, Napoleon was fighting with the French. And that battle took him with the British. Napoleon was fighting for British.

Also the French at some point, but that's later in the story. That battle took him to Egypt. And when he was in Egypt, his soldiers were. were drawing this sphinx and the pyramids and it wasn't like today it was like there was a lot of dust and sand around it just pieces of it were jutting yeah but enough you know and they took these drawings back to paris and there's these spiritual societies called the salons and these salons were essentially exploring what we would call the occult inside of kind of this you know catholic civilization that was undergoing changes because of the french revolution and

and secularism and all other ideas that are coming in it, which actually have their roots in the occult anyways. But regardless, these drawings became very popular, and suddenly people thought, wait a second, are you saying that some of these old stuff that we read in ancient books could actually be there buried under the desert sand, and we could actually go find it? And so by the 1800s, a group of Europeans said,

you know what, let's do it. Let's go find the empirical evidence of Western civilization. Let's go and prove that Western civilization is not based on myth. And their idea was two things. They felt that Western civilization had two roots. One in the Hebrew Bible, the other in the Greek world. And so they wanted to find the ancient cities mentioned in the Bible, and they wanted to find the cities mentioned in Homer's Odyssey,

and where the ports that Ulysses went to. And so with this mission, you know, they created a science. You know, Logos means knowledge. Archaeolokos means the knowledge of ancient things, of old things, archaeology. And the archaeology's mission was to find the empirical roots, the physical, real evidence of the foundations of Western civilization. And with that, they launched. Now, they never thought that they were going to find,

anything older than the Assyrian civilization, which was a thousand years before the time of the Lord. They thought really surely anything before that is mythology. But when they got to Mesopotamia, they started to see that there were all these tablets that talked about civilizations in the South that were older. And they found a library of Ashurbanipal in Nineveh. Henry Laird discovered that library. He was a British archaeologist. it wasn't supposed to dig there.

That was a French section of the dig, but the French had a national holiday, and literally as a joke, he dug on the French side on their day off, and he found the library of Ashro Bonny Pahl. And it became a British find. And so basically, there were so many tablets in there

that talked about the gods. That was one of the main sections, of the library. But one of the things that was very exciting, citing in that find, Ashur Banipal had created a lexicon, a dictionary to read the ancient writings that were written in Sumerian, which was the sacred tongue of Mesopotamia. The way that Hebrew is a sacred tongue or Arabic to the Muslims is a sacred tongue, Sumerian, the original tongue, the oldest tongue, the land of Shinar where Noah and his

children settled in the south of Mesopotamia, the sacred scriptures written in that language the unuma elish Yes, that was their sacred tongue And so no one could read it Even they were no longer operating in it But Ashrobanipal had created A dictionary tablet so that he could read it And he said that the god of the scribes

Had taught him how to read the ancient engravings Even from the days before the flood And so as a king He was to memorize all the knowledge of his civilization He was also a priest, and I'm going to talk about that. And apparently he had some sort of a tutelage also, it seems, he said, from the gods. Now, whether that's just like, you know, he's just lifting himself up or whether it was real, it could be very well real, that they were giving him some sort of an insight.

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Now, where did the Islamic civilization come from? So you got the Arabs. The Arabs, they are basically an oral civilization. They don't have any writing. They are flanked on one side by the Persian civilization, which is much of the, older, organized in all the bodies of knowledge, architecture, mathematics, laws, religion, and military science, medicine, all the bodies of knowledge that came from the land of Shinar, and we're going to go there, where did they come from? How do they get that knowledge? So you've got

these guys on one side of the Arabs, the Persian, and the other side you have the Greek civilization, which also equally is civilized and has all of these bodies of knowledge. In fact, you're The Arabs are in between these two. And if you look at a map, you'll see they kind of are in the south. And they live in the desert. You can't get to the middle of the desert. You'll die. The only way to get to the middle of the desert is with camels.

And so one of the way the Arabs protect themselves is they try to have a monopoly over all the camels. If they are the only ones that have the camels, don't get into them. And suddenly, Muhammad from the tribe of Goresh, says, I'm receiving a download. And that's what Koran means, the recitation. And he begins to recite. And he actually goes into epileptic seizures, you know, like the founder of Mormonism. Like Joseph Smith. Yeah, it's like Joseph Smith.

And so for 32 years, you know, he's having these recitations that are coming out of him. And these recitations become, well, the recitation, the Quran. That's what that's all means, the recitation. And when he dies, four of his closest disciples, you know, how do you say the same? disciple in Arabic, Talib, and what's the plural, Taliban. And how do you say disciple in Hebrew, like the disciples of the Lord, Talmud? And what's the plural Talmudim? So it's a Talmudim of Yeshua, the disciples of Jesus, and the Taliban of Muhammad, the disciples of Mahat.

Because they're both a Semitic language, right? They're Ishmael and Isaac. We're both the Abraham. I was going to say, right? Because initially, that is the split, right? you have Ishmael being the father of the Arab nations, and then Isaac via Abraham being the father of the Hebrew nations. And you have this, and you know way more,

but I just was, I know you're going to Muhammad. It's fascinating because I think the similarities, as you pointed out, between sort of this download that Mohammed gets and begins with Islam and the same thing we see. And with Joseph Smith is a really interesting sort of parallel. Yeah, you hear that a lot. millennia part, it seems, but it's like, yeah. It seems like the people get this automatic writing that comes to them from some entity.

Yes. You hear this all the time. That's right. And you wonder. An angel appeared to him in the cave where he would go meditate and said, and the angel said to him, you know what? I am the angel Gabriel and write. And then he's like, I don't know how to write. He says, but, you know, I'm going to just do what I'm, just repeat what I'm saying.

And that became the first verse of the Koran. And of course, it says in 2 Corinthians chapter 11 that Satan can present themselves as an angel of light. And his ministers and minister of righteousness. But I don't want to get to conclusions. I want to just... No, right, yeah. So, Muhammad kind of gets this download, and then he dies, and four of his disciples then record it, and they realize that they need to have a writing, and they actually create the writing, the alphabet of the Arab world,

to record the laws of Allah. And when we went to the South Mesopotamia as a digression that's relevant, we found writing in Uruk, one of the cities of Mesopotamia. That is where writing comes from, the Sumerian civilization. And it comes from the Temple of Inana, the Queen of Heaven, her scribes were the first people to write. And the Mesopotamians tell us that writing was given as a gift to encode the laws of the gods, which are the codes of civilization. And I'm going to show that to you. Wow. And this is also what Enoch is called, the first scribe of who of the God of Israel, right, as opposed to these guys.

So writing itself, the purpose of writing, you know. And you know, the oldest writing is pictographic, right? It's symbols. I have a pet theory, and I can't prove it, but my pet theory, because in the modern-day, you know, alien abduction phenomenon, which is the extension of this demonic world and the story of this supernatural, there is telepathy. I think that these guys, the original scribes, they learned the writing telepathically,

images appeared in their minds. And I think that's why it's, you know, perhaps they were drawing it. Yeah, but anyways, I digress. Also, Ali, to that point, there, I mean, this is all anecdotal, right? And, of course, we're in the area of speculation here. But a lot of, Nate, a lot of the abduction stories talk about people that are on these craft and they see what they describe as hieroglyphics written. on on these on these consoles and on in in these yes I have a picture of one of my

in these books I mean one of the most famous one famous abductions is is Betty and Barney Hill yes yeah and they Barney Hill and they talk about a book being opened up and those full of what they called hieroglyphics within within this and star maps and these things but that's very interesting I mean of course again speculating but totally it does seem to have some Some somewhat linearness. Lineal, if you will. Linearness is not a word.

Linearness is not a word. Pyrgyroglyph means secret writing. Some people say that before the flood, there was secret writings handed down by the fallen angels, and those were actually recorded and kept on giant stones. Yeah, Jubilee's, right? Jubilee talks about one of Noah's sons or grandsons Inosh finding this stone with the tablet of the watchers or something.

Yeah, the wisdom of the watchers. Yeah, La Mech and Inoch. And then there's the ones after the flood, they inspired, you know, as to where the stones were. And then they found it and the occult religions, you know, reignited. A hieroglyph means secret writing. That's what hieroglyph means secret writing. So there is this idea. And so these guys create writing and they encode the recitation of,

Muhammad and lo and behold the first book of the Muslim civilization appears the Quran and empowered by this they now have a worldview they know who God is how to organize themselves how they are supposed to live the Quran is about essentially four sections how to worship Allah how to live as a Muslim how to live with other Muslims and how to live with non-Muslims how to deal with non-Muslims So this becomes, you know, a code of civilization. The Islamic civilization is born and empowered by this knowledge and this force that's behind them with miraculously within a hundred years. They conquer both the Persian and Greek civilizations and the Muslim world, as we know it today, is born.

And that's why they always have this idea that, you know, the power of Allah has demonstrated in warfare because they go back to this. miraculous explosive victory as a sign of the force I was behind them because they were very small and number and they were going against massive armies of established civilizations. So there really was. I mean, even the people that they conquered didn't think that it could be conquered by them. So this was kind of, you know, the story of the birth of Islam. But no matter how far back I went into history, I discovered the same story. Moses goes on top of a mountain.

He receives, you know, a code, you know, 613 commandments. He receives a code from the God of Israel. You know, they say that Moses really was the first person to, you know, get a download from the cloud into a tablet. Hey, hey, yeah, yeah. So he comes down. He says, here it is the words of God. and the Hebrew civilization is born, the Hebrew nation is born. They now have a way of living.

They have a way of worshiping God. They have a way of understanding their origins, the purpose of life, the destiny of Israel, how to treat each other, how to deal with others. Don't make any covenant with the nations around you. Don't marry. Don't give into marriage with them. This is going to be your dietary laws. This is your clothing laws.

This is your headcuts. It's going to be circumcited. It goes on and on and on. And an entire civilization is born. you'll get kings. There'll be an erronic priesthood. First we started the tent of meeting, then I'm going to give you the architecture of the temple. And so an entire system of thought is created, which is the genesis of the Hebrew civilization. You said this place was steps from the water. We just haven't found the steps yet. How much did we save? Enough. Enough to get lost.

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another heavenly download, someone from heaven comes to Earth, and his speakings and his teachings rewrite the Roman world. Suddenly, as it goes out into the Roman world, the entire story that people tell each other about reality is modified and the codes of civilization pour from the mouth of Jesus into the Roman world and rewrite civilizations understanding a reality. One more time something in heaven comes that creates reality. Now, when you go back to, let's say, the Hindu's Valley civilization, you can see that,

you know, there's life in the Hindu's valley, but then some 3,500 years ago, you know, Veedic texts appear. There's four of them. The Reg Veda is the oldest one, which is the worship of Indra, who is a demigod, half-god, half man, is a Nephilim. And there are many nephalums in the story, and there's also fire that comes from the sky and destroys cities in India like the city of Dwarka, where Krishna, you know, which is, you know, modern Hinduism often draws from Krishna and from Rama, but Krishna is the Bhagavad Gita. That is the main text of modern day. Hinduism, right? What does Bagavgita mean? It means the song of the Lord, which means the Lord of Krishna, and the word that is there as Lord is equivalent to the Hebrew word Ba'u'u'rishu word.

It's literally the songs of Bal Krishna. That's the main text. Wow. And so the story of it, of course, is that, you know, this chari, Arjuna, this prince, he finds himself in a war, a feud of family, and his chariteer turns around to him and says, I'm not really a charioteer, I'm actually Krishna. And he begins to reveal to him this writing, which becomes how you become united with me. And there are four ways it can happen. And that's the sacred text, the song about Krishna.

And before that, a more ancient than him are the Vedic text. But the Vedic texts are the birth of the Vedic civilization of India. It is born of those codes that appear. When you go to Mesopotamia, if you Google, if people are listening to this, Google the code of Hamurabi and click on image. This is one of the oldest codes that we have in existence in Mesopotamia. There you see the Amarite King Hamurabi, and he is receiving a scroll from a man sitting on a chair.

Now, who is that man sitting on a chair? That is the sun god champs, who will be known as Apollo by the Greeks. He is giving the law. Now, when you read the Code of Hamrabi, if you Google Code of Hamrabi English translation, you'll see that the first part of the laws are a dedication to the gods and especially to Shams, the God of Justice, who's giving the law. And then the code is very elaborate and governs every aspect of life. In fact, some of the laws of that code made it into English common law.

It's still one of the laws that we still have in our system through Roman states. civil law. So there is this Hamurabi civilization is governed by that law code. Did Hamurabi just create all of that himself? You know, and just attribute it to this mythological being. You know, that would be like a Marxist view of understanding of this.

Or a Darwinist view, you know, they just came from the forest and they were afraid of the dark and they created these beings. And then they attributed this because, you know, they wanted to rule over the people. Like Marx says, the religion is the opium of the people. So there's a, there's a classes. Or is it real? Like, this is what the Bible showed me, that the gods were real beings.

Yeah. And no matter how far back I went into history, starting with Islam, I noticed that every civilization began with a download from the gods. Yeah. And we know, I think over the years, we've talked a lot about how everything tries to hijack the kingdom of heaven. Everyone tries to rip it off and have their own way. And it, you know, you never really thought about this in the sense that each God is trying to sort of do a bastardized version. They're trying to rip off the same totally right. It's a bait and switch, right? Because they, instead of, instead of Yahweh, they put themselves at the top. And then they essentially copy paste a lot of, well, it's not copy paste, but it's essentially the format, right? The laws and so whatever, but like the format itself is,

is here's how to, here's how to live in civilization worship me. I'm, I am, I am in charge, right? Yes. Yeah, and we grew up with all this. We grew up with these other religions. And why, you know, how are they so, because a lot of, you know, modern-day atheists are like, you know, coexist and all this other stuff, right? They don't, they think that human beings just invented these things, but would just a human invention last this long? Or did it originate from a God? Somebody gave him something. Because otherwise, I don't think they would be as popular. They wouldn't be, it wouldn't have as many followers. Exactly. You try starting

in religion, see how far you get. Elron Hubbard did that. He's got a lot of, he got Tom Cruise and some other guys. He probably got a download. Elron Hubbard was friends with Alastra Crowley. Yes, he was. And these guys were, you know, Satanists, and they had a connection with something.

Every one of the things, like, you know, have you heard of the Baha'i, it's a small sect within Islam? When I looked into it, I was amazed how complex it was I knew immediately that some guy hadn't created this and whether it's the Shinto spirits of Shintoism in Japan whether it's the shamanism of the Native Indians the entire landscape both from the great you know religions to the smaller movements if they have this lasting stay from generation generation and they have a complexity to them is because they're inspired from the other side. Wow. You literally can divide

the entire landscape of humanity into two, there's a religion of God that came through the prophets of Israel through the Son of God and through the Holy Spirit and the Word of God and then there is the rest, all of them, you know, that are from Satan. I mean, to

put it like broadly, Hasatan. And this is a difficult thing to say, but sometimes people hear the truth are liberated from it, you know, and I've had this experience many times. Chuck Messler says that in the documentary and he just goes for, he just gets very passionate. There's the biblical faith, he says.

So basically, this is the Deutronomy 32, verse 8 and 9. You know, that when the nations were divided, they were given to the hands of God. But then God chose Jacob for himself. So there was a spiritual division. The nations were in the hand of these beings called the sons of God. And Satan says to Jesus, dominion has been given to me over all the nations of the earth, or all the kingdoms of the world. And I'll give them to whomever I will.

And I'm going to come to that. So this idea that all the codes of civilization, now you brought up a good point, look, about the content, and you said about the pseudo. So I want to pause on those two points. So yes, the secret is the pseudo structure. And I'm going to show you that. By the time we get to end this talk, I'll show you that when you combine these religions together, it actually forms a logic.

There's a logic to them. And there is a pseudo, a very deep pseudo kingdom that is being established. It's competing in the kingdom of the Lord. It's a tale of two thrones, really. And you're talking about the structure. So there's something interesting about that is different from the structure of all of these books and Bible. Another one we need to throw in there is the Avesta, which was the main sacred scripture of the Zoroastrians, which was the main religion of Persian,

of the Persian Empire, until the 7th century when Islam came and conquered it. But many of the ideas from the Avesta and many of the gods of the Avestan tradition made it into the Roman Empire since the Persian and Romans were competing in neighboring empires. In fact, just before the Lord was born, another digression, Persia took Israel, took Judea.

The Hasmanians asked for help, the Hasmanian kings of Judah. asked for help from the Persian Empire, they came and they took over. Then the Romans took... Was it Cyrus? Was it Cyrus? Oh, no, this was centuries after Cyrus. Centuries, okay.

Yeah. And then the Romans took it back. And when the Magi, who were part of the kingdom of Persia, they were an erroneous Zoroastrian priesthood that chose the kings of Persia and served as elders and counselors to the kings of Persia, and they would always travel with armed guards. And so we don't know how many of them came to the Lord because it doesn't say in the New Testament. It says they had three gifts, but it doesn't say there's three magi. The Orthodox Church, which has the oldest written records, says there was 12.

We don't really know. But they would have traveled with armed guards because we know who they were from the Persian records. And when they came to Herod, the king, who was not a Judean, he was an Edomite, who was from Jordan. And he just, you know, his family was in the business of statecraft. and they got paid to run places. And so he had kind of, you know, gotten the job to be the king of Judea for Rome. When the magi come to and they say,

whereas he was born king of the Jews, in his mind, it must have seen a play from the Persian Empire to put their own guy on the throne of Judea. They were challenging him, you know, whereas he was born king of the Jews. He must have seen it not from a religious point of view, like they're calling for the Messiah.

He might have seen it from a political point of view. Like the Persians are, you know, trying to push back and take back Judea from the Romans and put their own guy on the throne, because why would they send their magiase to Israel? Anyways, regardless, the Persians were run by the Sorastrian system, and its gods influenced Roman religions. They, Mithra, for instance, you know, that was one of those Zoroastrian gods. They came into the Roman world, and they laid roots.

And so what happened to, what's the difference between the Evesta, the Vida, the Vida, texts and the Bhagavad Gita and the Quran. I would say the two competing books to the modern world of the Bible are the Hindu scripture of the Bhagavagith and the Quran. What is the difference in these in the Bible? All of the other ones are designed in this structure. They are about how to worship and unite with a entity. This entity has characteristics that are described, and then you're taught how to unite with that entity and a servant. And what is the entity? And what is the righteous way of living according to the laws of that entity and ultimately some of them have sacrifices. That's it. The Bible has this foundational interplay between prophecy and history,

which is the underlying structure of its narrative, God says, and then what God says is going to happen, happens, and then it's recorded. And this becomes the interplay. So whether it's God tells Abraham, you know, your children will be salives, and I promise they're going to get a land that's going to be theirs forever. From then on, we see the center plate, even the Gospels, you know, the story of Israel

and the Old Testament, even the Gospels. Why is it that only three years of the Lord's life is recorded and an event from his childhood and his birth? Because these are specifically, what is recorded is the aspects of the Messiah's life that fall within the scope of biblical process. This is a testimony, a document to the Jewish mind who would only accept a Messiah that would be in harmony with their revealed scriptures. This is to say this man is in fact fulfilling what our God said the Messiah would do.

And here is the written testimony of it. It's not about a biography of Jesus or his most interesting teachings or things the Holy Spirit inspired that we should all know. It's connected. Why is the book of Acts there? because the Lord, in the Old Testament, God said he was going to give the Holy Spirit. And the Book of Act now records a fulfillment of that prophecy. In the Old Testament, God said that the light would shine to Gentiles. The Book of Acts now records the beginning of that phenomenon with Cornelius.

So the entire structure of the Bible is designed in historical events, first of all, it's not just teachings of a God or laws. It's real people in real places. then the God of Israel predicts and decrees the destiny of mankind in the future in such a way that involves the actions and thoughts of these other beings. Not only are humans under his authority, but so are the gods of the nations. I was going to ask you that. I have a question. Yes.

When do you think that they were able to communicate with us? Do you think that that was like Genesis 6 event when they were? Well, I have it open right here, because I'm going to get to this later, which is telling... Nate's always reading the head, I'm always reading the head. It's a serpent. Well, I'm just saying, like, what gave them access? Because the serpent, you know, was it then or was it later in Genesis 6? Because this sounds a lot like Genesis 6, where we traded this knowledge and information.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Deidorme 32, right, because you have the second one where they... So the... Yeah. And we just talked about this. I think it's interesting, too, is that this reminds me, Ali, we just did an episode with Dr. Joel Motamale about the three rebellions recently here. And one thing I think was fascinating was his breakdown of Psalm 82 at the end,

where there's a society and it says, rise up Elohim. And he's talking to what we surmised to be the pre-incarnate Christ and says, the nations are yours. I'm paraphrasing, but this is after the judgment, right? And then we know Christ brings graphs, of course, through his work, grafts the nations back into the kingdom. And maybe think of that, but sorry, that's the biggest side, but I was thinking about as you're saying. It reminds me of also the judgment in Psalm 82, you know, of the least of those Elohim that they were given charge of nations and then they accepted worship and were corrupted and then judged. So Isaiah 14 tells us the five I will of Satan's heart.

And it says clearly that he wants to be worshipped. And so idol worship has its roots in Satan's desire to be worshipped. In Romans chapter 1, Paul says that idol worship essentially is the worship of the creation over the creator. He defines it broadly in that way. And in Colossians, he warns people not to worship angels. So this was something that was done. he says you know don't accept any other gospel even if an angel preached it's you so he again talks about the communication coming from these guys the so it seems that these other angels went the way of satan

and wanted to be worshipped and so they created the system of worship now i would translate the word elohem as spiritual authority for our generation the there were spiritual authorities over the nations because the word god sometimes can be confusing it's like what did we really mean by this Why is the name of God plural in this instance? Because God has different names that are revealed to us, because he is the authority above all the authorities. Like it says in the Bible, he's the God of God, El ha Elohim, and Lord of the Lord. Adonha adonim.

In Colossians, chapter 1, verse 16, I think this is a definition coming from Paul's mind of the word Elohim. He says, poor by him, I was read it from verse 15 He is the image of the invisible God the first born of all creation For by him all things were created

In heaven on earth Visible and invisible Whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities All things were created Through him and for him So he is God is plural

His name I love him is plural Because he is the authority In him exists all these layers of authority And that's why it's plural So the God is were the spiritual authorities over the nations and they went the way of Satan, they wanted to be worshiped, but they then began to actually interact with the human race. And there are many things that they gave the human grace, but there are three that I would like to highlight tonight. One is the codes of civilization, and I'm going to further open that. Two is kingship. They chose kings.

Yeah. All the kings are true. That's what Satan says to Jesus, and that's what we see in the book of Revelation. The dragon gives all his power and authority of the beast. And three is they had children. These were three main interactions. They had children. They gave knowledge and they gave kingship, the scepter of kingship. Now, when you look at, what was I going to say? I was talking about knowledge.

Something Nate had said about, okay, it'll come to me. I was talking about when did you think this happened? Oh, yeah. did they get access to us? So this is the idea I was going to say. So basically you can divide all the knowledge

that exists on this planet into four categories. One that has come from God. Two, that has come from the fallen angels. Three, that has come from man himself because man has the light of reason is the thinking being himself, made the image of God. Four, which is the main form of knowledge we find in the

metropolis cities of the world today, is a braiding of the first three forms of knowledge together. The knowledge from God and from the fallen angels and from man kind of get mixed together in our civilization to create a fourth type of knowledge that most people travel and live in. That's why Paul says in Romans chapter 12 that we have to kind of, you know, renew the spirit of our minds. And that comes from the word of reading the word of God and testing everything against it and removing

from our life and thinking everything that is not in harmony with it. As far as the conversation, so different conversations, they begin from the beginning in the book of Genesis in the Garden of Eden. There's a plurality. Let's make man in our image. It seems that, you know, you can say this a trinity, but for me in the context of the Bible, that is, you know, God wasn't alone. Like it says in the book of Job, you know, he created the earth and all the sons of God

tried out for joy. So he wasn't alone. So Eve and Adam knew from the beginning. that they were in contact with these other beings. And it was natural for them to communicate with them. So the first communication begins with the Nakhash, with the serpent. In Genesis chapter 3, what's interesting is that each one of these contacts, Genesis chapter 3, Genesis chapter 6,

they teach us something different about the nature of the communication that continues to this day. What is it that Genesis chapter 3 teaches us, and everyone should keep this in mind for later, but this is what it teaches us. Satan says to Eve, what did God say about this tree? If you eat it, you will die. You will surely die.

So she repeats the commandment of God. And what does he say? No, you shall not surely die. You're not going to die. We're not going to die. So what does he do? He inverses, he reverses the commandment of God. He nullifies it with his words.

Then what does he say? He says, you will become like one of the gods, wise, like one of the gods. Well, it's true, because later God says man has become like one of us. So he adds a truth to it. He lies, and in that his lies very, very specific lie, the purpose of his lie is to negate and reverse the law of God. Kayak gets my flight, hotel, and rental car right. So I can tune out travel advice that's just plain wrong.

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Allah says in the Quran, he was not the son of God, and he did not die on the cross, and there is no Atulam in his blood. It's a very specific attack. It targets the truth of God with the intention of nullifying and reversing it, and then it adds the truth to it that gives it some softness and substance, that makes it hard now to complete destroy. If it was only a lie, it would be brittle.

But by adding a truth to it that is from the Word of God, it actually makes it more difficult to destroy. It's like that game you played as a kid. Truths than a lie, but it's really two lies and a truth, right? Yes. Remember that game in the 80s, Nate? Yeah, yeah. You know, we've talked about this show, Ollie, like how the word Rafa means like the God kings. And we've kind of proven in a hundred different ways that this knowledge all kind of, like the Book of Enok is actually a very good source to,

understand how the ancient world was set up, but you don't really think about why did they choose kings? How do they all get their own sort of religion? And when you start piecing it all together, you start to realize they're all doing the same thing. They're all doing the same thing. And there's no gods that are just, there's no gods or civilizations it sounds that are just totally wacky, doing something that's not egotistical. It's all worship me. I am the deity. Here's the divine book. here's the way to do it. And it's all carbon copy, every single one. And that's why they're building the same structures with the same types of languages. And I just think it's crazy that modern humans think everyone in the ancient days just made up religions. And it's like, why do they all make up

the same one? And just variations. It's like all these deities came from heaven. Yes. Nobody had any original ideas. There's no, there's no nihilists, right? Yeah. We believe in, We believe in nothing. It was just like maybe on the Caribbean there was, just a bunch of guys sitting around. The modern, the youthful phenomenon, which is the continuation of this, they're not visiting our world. We are living in the world that is born of the codes they have handed down. God, you know, ceded the earth with life and then ceded the life with knowledge. And these are the commandments.

And they form the codes of civilization. And then the enemy imitated it. You know, God planted his, God and he planted his seed. in the garden. So the difference between, so this, by the, I just wanted to finish by saying, but this is the template God has given us to recognize the laws that are handed down by the enemy. Every time you hear a religion out there or a thought that attacks directly something

of the word of God with the intention of nullifying it and replacing it with another commandment and then adding a truth to it, it's got the signature of the enemy on it, because that is what we're seeing here. That is good. That's what we learn here. Now you go to Genesis chapter 6, what we learn from there is that, oh, it's not just about the commandments of the Lord being modified. They're going one step further. They want to now create their own civilization with its own religion and its own goal and its own king.

They want to create their own heaven in Jerusalem. And that continues after the flood. So after the flood, when you go up to the Mesopotamia and these archaeologists came to Mesopotamia, and they finally agreed that, hey, you know what, it looks like the tabas we're reading and all the kings, they attribute themselves as they are the kings of Shinar, the kings of Akkad and Sumer.

That's what, even the Cyrus, you know, he concerns all the king of the head. So they're like, you know what, there must have been an older civilization, far older than Assyria. Jules O'Pere said, you know what, we should consider that there really was such a thing as the Sumerian civilization.

He was French. The tablets were saying Schumer. The Hebrew Bible says Shinar. That's where no in his son settled. But he couldn't pronounce Schumer. He was French and said it's Sumer. And so it's the Sumerian civilization. That's what we call it.

But that's simply the pronunciation of Schumer, which is the Acadian word for Shinar, which is the biblical word for that civilization. So they started to dig in the South, and they found virtually every single. that is mentioned in Genesis chapter 10 other than three. So they found all the city founded by Nimrod, for instance, including Babel, which is the famous as Babylon, which was discovered in 1850, and the gates of Babylon dedicated to the goddess

Ishtar are, of course, in the museum of Berlin. You can go see it today. Google the gates of Ishtar and see it. Click on images. Wait, is that the same place we talked about where the throne of Satan is? One museum in Berlin, which to me looks like a temple. If you look at the museum outside, has two, one of the most important pagan, you know, architectural things in it, one dedicated to the Queen of Heaven, the other to Zeus.

All the baddies in one museum. And it was, man. And so when you kind of dig down into the South of Mesopotamia, no matter how far they dug, no matter how old they went, no matter how back they went in time, they found civilization. They found castles larger than Buckingham Palace. They found, you know, Hillary, like the oldest city they found was Eridu, which is dated to 4,000 years before the time of the Lord. And it is one of the cities mentioned in the tablets of Mesopotamia as having also been

an antediluvian city. There are four cities mentioned in the Mesopotamian tablets, and Eridu is one of them, meaning that it was a city that existed before the flood, and after flood they renamed it Eridu. And some people say that's where the name of our planet comes from Earth. Eridu becomes Erzse through like old German and eventually makes it into English as Earth. And in Persian, it's still a word. It means encampment or dugat. So it's an ancient word. Now, in Eridu, what they found was the pillars of a temple. So in the oldest city they could find, they still found pillars and if you see you know they had pillars and look at the white house and look at the

capital hill what does it have pillars look at the greek and roman architecture pillars go to china they have pillars they just have some funny little ending at the end of the roofs make it look oriental but it's the same really think pillars right where did it come from there so they're like astonished and no matter how far they went they just found civilization they didn't find the rudiments of civilization. They didn't see like caveman building up, finding like little things and building little huts and bigger huts and they're like, oh wow, we can see how they eventually got to Babylon, you know, or how they got to Assyria, you know, which was only like a thousand years before the Lord. No, even when they went like 3,500 years before, 3,800 years before, they were

finding the same technology. In fact, this was one of their shockers. The older civilization at the south of Iraq, the Sumerian civilization, was the fountainhead of the other Mesopotamian civilizations. That's where knowledge had come from. It was actually more advanced. Writing itself had come from there for about 2,000 years that people in the north of Mesopotamia didn't have writing until they were strong enough to conquer the south

and took finally writing. So this was a revelation. Man, I mean, probably how embarrassing for those guys that could write. They got conquered by the non-writers. Yes. The illiterate came down and took their kingdom. All civilizations and empires are like people. They age and die.

It's like modern-day meme. Yeah. One of the guys in the south that was very interesting was Goudia. He was the king of Lagash. So, Sumerian civilization had four cities. And Gidea was the king of Lagash. And Gidea one night had a dream. And I read the dream.

And then he goes to an interpreter, and this woman interprets a dream for him. And again, it's very elaborate. As I'm saying, when you read these things, you realize it's very different from Greek and myth. You immediately know it's history. Like, this is, yeah, like Daniel interprets the dream of the king of Babylon. So the interpreter of a dream says that you have received the architectural template to build a ziggurat, a temple, to the god of the city of Lagash. And when you look at the So anyways

He puts together a very large workforce And he builds it And when you look at the statue of the King of the Lagashu Gediah Which still exists because he made sure that his statue was made from a stone That's virtually indestructible He had it chiseled for posterity And you see on his lap

There's a map and there's a steelist A pen of the actual architecture The same way that Moses Moses has shown heavenly things and told to build you know earthly patterns of the candlestick the tent of meeting you know from the beginning we we hear you know the most the word that is most mentioned in the books of Moses is Mishkan which is the tent of meeting which becomes the temple from the beginning we see that God's earnest

desire is to be with his people to be in the midst of his creation and to be with us and so he's going to make a way of course through the Lord when he the veil is removed and so So not only did Moses receive and Solomon, you know, how to build the temple, but so did Gudea. These ancient zirates were mathematically so elaborate. You couldn't just come up with the math to build them. And this is the origin of mathematics, actually. And the laws of the gods gave became the origin of our human laws and of our judicial system. Now, where did the kings come from?

So when anthropologists look at Mesopotamia, they say, you know, it's interesting. the first cities of the world came from Mesopotamia. And the city states, the Babylon was a city state. The last city state was Rome. We now have these nation states. Since the 19th century, we live in nation states. But they had city states back then. So these city states, the first...

Like a bunch of Singapore's, right? There's a bunch of Singapore's hanging out. Right. Don't litter. Don't litter to get caned. Yes. But, yes. So where do these cities states come from?

So the anthropologists say, you know what? urbanization came from the south of Iraq, from the land of Shinar. Now, what does that exactly mean? It was a reorganization of the structure of the culture. So everyone was living in a clan, where the head of your family was the patriarch, like the story of the household of Jacob. But suddenly, in the South of Mesopotamia, the gods come and they give the sentienthip. What does that

What does that mean? They say from now on, there's going to be a guy, he's going to be the king and he's going to be the priest. He's going to be a priest king. And his name is going to be NC. It means righteous ruler. And another name is Lugal, which means giant man, big man. And another name is Shipar, which means shepherd, because he's going to be the shepherd of the people for the gods. And this priest king is going to now receive the laws of the gods.

and he's going to be under the authority of the gods. That's why, like, Goudia, he was a priest. I mean, she was Ashurbanian Pal, all of them, Pharaoh of Egypt. And the idea was that if the Pharaoh lived according to the gods, and he was inhabited by the leader of the gods, and he did well, his entire dynasty would be resurrected. All the people, the generation under him would be resurrected in the kingdom of the gods. Because they offer immortality.

Sounds very familiar, Oly. Sounds very familiar, right? Yeah, it does. Yeah. So they become the shepherd of the people of the world for on behalf of these spiritual authorities. They become the priest kings. And that's what anthropologists say is urbanization. It was a reorganization of the culture from clan-based to these cities built around the priest kings.

That is what was the birth of the first days of the world. And that's what Nimrod was and that's what the Antichrist is going to be. So this entire structure was then introduced. That's why I'm saying this was very important. This idea that they gave, when Satan says dominion has been given to me, why were the Christians persecuted the citizens of Rome that converted to the monotheism of Jesus? Because they no longer sacrificed the gods. The most heinous of all of the persecutions carried out against the Christians was by Diocletian.

It's called the Great Persecution. But what did The Ecclesia do? He sent a messenger to the oracle at Delphi, the Oracle of Apollo. You know, the Python. You know, Paul casts out this spirit, this Python spirit. Yeah, and this isn't like if you've seen the movie 300, there's a pretty interesting sort of scene here of the Oracle, Delphi. Right.

And apparently that spirit, and Apollo kills the servant and the spirit of it, you know, stays there and inspires prophecy from the Oracle of the... Delphi. And so the he sends, Diocletian sends a messenger to Delphi and says, what should I do with the Christians? And Apollo says, Christians are the enemies of the gods.

And armed with that statement, Diocletian suspends the civil rights of all the Christians citizens of Rome. He has their Bibles confiscated and burnt. And he has them tortured until they sacrifice

to the gods or die. And this is called the Great persecution. So this, even the emperors of Rome drew their power from the gods. And that's why they felt threatened that these citizens no longer honored the spiritual forces of the gods. Why? Because the structure is born in the cities in the south of Iraq and replicated. You know, you look, you're talking about Cyrus, you know, you read the Cyrus cylinder where Cyrus conquers Babylon and then he explains, he says, you know, I received this from the God Barduk, and he gives thanks to all the gods, actually.

And he frees all the slaves so they can go serve their gods and gives back, you know, the artifacts that were stolen from any of the temples in the world. So he wants to make sure he checks all the, you know, all the boxes. And he's like, you know, we're all friends here. So. Ali, isn't interesting, though, like that the ancient Hebrews are different, right? They don't have a king. this is very different.

Yes. And they end up begging for one and God allows them to have one, but they don't. Yes. They don't make Moses the king. He doesn't take that kingship because Yahweh is the king. Exactly. And so when they beg for the king, the Lord says, you know, he will be the king himself. He enters the line of David to become the king.

And then when he becomes the king, he says, I'm the king of kings. I am the good shepherd. He takes on all. because in the Mesopotamia immediately, once one kingdom conquered the next, the first empire was born, Saragan of Akad, the first emperor, he became the king of kings. And that title stuck. So he takes on all those titles. He says, no, I am the king of kings. I am the good shepherd.

All thrones and all dominions, yes. All of the... Yes. I want to ask one thing because I think it's fascinating. One of the things they found in Sumeria and the tablets was the Sumerian king list. Yeah. And this may be not, this may be an aside, but I want to ask your thoughts on this because those durations are really kind of crazy.

Yeah, yeah. There's a total of 241,200 years of reigns. And some of these kings reign for like 43,000 or 28,000 years. Yeah. So, first of all, we know many of those kings, like even Gilgamesh is there. We know the cities. we can see that these are actually real people. It's very seriously written.

It says, and here was the flood, and here the kings brought the flood, and the kings after the flood, and we know there was a flood from the Bible. So there's enough reality to it. Now, how do you explain the age thing? There's only two possible explanations. It is going into a period of history

where the angels ruled and the sons of angels ruled before Adam. There's a pre-adamian. history. That's one explanation. And again, it's pure conjecture because I don't have a biblical reference for that. The other one is that we're not reading the dates properly because we don't always understand their mathematics. Like there was one system of date they had called a char and we didn't understand it. We're like, what is a char? It was so big. And then eventually,

Zachary's Sitching who's not very well respected because he's an ancient astronaut theorist and has a lot of silly and crazy ideas. And by the way, he reads a tablet, sometimes it's interesting sometimes is bogus, but still, he said, wait a second, that's the number of years it takes for us to go through the constellations of the zodiac. They must have used that as a measure of time to measure really big things, like the distance between planets, which went far beyond farming. So there was different measures of time they had. So one possible explanation is that we are not properly reading the measure of time. I know we tend to think a lot that, you know, all these Mesopotamian guys, they know what they're talking about.

I'm going to grab a book in one second. Okay, so this here is the National Geographic. That's a hard copy for everybody listening. Yes. And in this copy of the National... A lot of people don't know what that is. There's not a lot of naked people in that one. Sometimes they have a lot of naked people in those nat geos.

Here is, Gube. Quebec Leiteppe. Yeah. Quebec Leitepe. Yeah, the T pillars. Yeah. They discover this. they go, it's 12,000 years old, and they're like, wow, this was even older than

Mesopotamia. And then they go, wait a second, what if civilization came first and then farming came? Because the idea was that farming came and stuff. Now, these guys go in Mesopotamia, these are archaeologists, and they find that all this knowledge was handed down. They wonder, why were these civilizations so advanced from the very get-go? You know, they, they, they, I've read many books written by Mesopotamian archaeologists And these are books that I think just other archaeologists read.

They call a sudden civilization. They're very honest. They don't know how civilization began. Because no matter how far back they went, it was advanced. And then suddenly the oldest thing they found was already very advanced. And then when they consulted the library's Mesopotamia, they said this was revealed to us by the gods. And they gave a list of all the things that were revealed. It was called Me in Sumerian.

Me. It's these bodies of knowledge. And I just chose three of them for a kingship religion. And so there are many more. And in Western Semitic, which was the language Abraham spoke, it's called Parshoe, which means division, at least in Hebrew, Parsha means divisions, the vision of the Bible. So maybe when the world was divided, the power of Babel, different tribes received different bodies of knowledge to get them going. That's why some things came from China.

We don't have in the West. Some things came from Mesopotamia, et cetera. So regardless, the archaeologists discovered that, hey, these guys are saying, saying that civilization, the codes of civilization, architecture, mathematics, medicine, kingship, the laws that govern their everyday life, their understanding of God and reality and religion, all of these things were revealed by the gods, Eloni, right? This is Babylon, the gateway to the gods, right, Babylon. We say Elohim, they said Eloni.

Now, they didn't know what to do with that. They're like, wow, this sounds a lot like, what is this? Right. And this is, I'm saying this is the story of Genesis chapter 6. Now you're saying, Genesis, so what we see in Genesis chapter 6 is bodies of knowledge. In the book of Enoch, there are seven bodies of knowledge handed down by seven angels. And these bodies of knowledge are, in fact, what you and I would call sciences. You know, astronomy, the military arts, the division of the roots, the chemistry, the solutions of sorcery, sorceries, pharmacia.

right so that's the Greek word for surgery so this formed a scientific religion which is what i think that you know the communist and woke movement of the west is trying to create with its kind of occultish you know masters behind it it is a combination of things that appear independent and scientific that woven together form the substance of an occult religion like you look at francis bacon look at galileau and newton you know capernicus all of these guys have occult uh-cult mystery schools in their lives, the origins of science come from mystery schools, but regardless of that, this is kind of what we see after the flood, that again, all kinds of bodies of knowledge are handed to the cities, to four cities in the south of Mesopotamia, which become the fountain head of human

civilization, the Sumerian civilization, and from there, it cores in Mesopotamia, and then, you know, it carries from empire to empire, from the succession of Mesopotamian empires, you know, the Babylonians, the Assyrians, the Babylonians again, then the Persians swallowed off and get it, and then the Greeks, the Romans. The Romans spread it throughout Europe, and the Europeans colonize the new world and bring it here, and now it's resting on the shores of California, all the way from the Valley of Mesopotamia. The bodies of knowledge, the bodies of knowledge that are revealed to this day are the foundations of our civilization, the medicine, the architecture, the mathematics, the literature, the writing, the religion. and all of these things that are revealed by the gods,

according to the library, but they don't know what to do with it. So religion was only one of the bodies of knowledge. That's why I call it the Code of Civilization. We're handed down, and then we keep repeating it to each other, like we repeat the words of the Lord. They don't know what to do with it.

So then appears on the scene who, Gordon Child. Who is Gordon Child? He is a 20-something-year-old young man, who is a disciple and in love with, Joseph Stalin, and he's an archaeologist. I'm going to read you what National Geographic says. An Australian transplant to Britain, child was a flamboyant man, a passionate Marxist, who wore plus fours and bow ties and larded his public addresses with noodle-headed panes to Stalinism.

He was also one of the most influential archaeologists of the past century, a great synthesis child wove together his colleagues disconnected facts into over-unarching in intellectual schemes. The most famous of these rose in the 1920s when he invented the concept of the Neolithic Revolution. In today's terms, child's views could be summed up like this. Homo sapiens burst onto the scene about 200,000 years ago for most of the millennia that followed, the species changed remarkably little, with humans living as small bands of wandering foragers. Then came the Neolithic Revolution. A radical change, child, brought with revolutionary consequences for the whole species, he said. In the lightning bolt of inspiration, one part of

humankind turned its back on foraging and embraced agriculture. The adoption of farming child argued, brought with further transformations. So, and he goes on to it, and tender fields, people had to stop wandering and move into pyramid villages where they develop up new tools and create pottery. The new ethnic revolutionist view was an explosively important event, the greatest human history after the master of fire. So basically, all of our ancestors collectively from the Indians, Stimistinians,

as I said, all the way to Islam, they all say they received his bodies of knowledge of the foundation of civilization. The The Word of God, the Bible, tells us that not only God was real and he gave these bodies of knowledge to the Jewish people, including kingship, but so were these other beings that are behind the nations. And then we can now go read through archaeology and through the Vesta and books that we still have from the olden days. What is it that they actually hand it down? We can now see all that. Gordon Child says, forget it. Forget all of that.

He creates his own theory. He says this. People are hunter-gatherers, but somebody, a few of these guys, He imagines what happened thousands of years ago. They had a kutuzini. They discovered farming. Just like that. So they started to farm.

And since now, they were no longer running after the first. They could now get together at night and have conversations. They had time off. They were, you know, you had the harvest. And then that was it. You know, you waited until the spring. So now they got together. And as they were talking, come together, they came up with civilization.

That's how they came up with it, right? He creates a natural sarcasmus. Now, it sounds interesting. First of all, it's a fairy tale created in his head. How can a man know what happened thousands of years ago? It's easy imagining it. Second of all, the bodies of knowledge are far too complex. Not like one guy's like, Fred, you know, last night, I came up with this thing. He's like, what? I called mathematics. And then Fred's like, that's so crazy. I came out with something. I call it architecture. Do you think it was those mushrooms we had outside last night? Like, I mean, this is... Then the third guy shows up

this guy, because I got an idea, man. It's called Mexican food. And they're like, and they're like, that guy wins. That guy wins. It's fascinating that because you make a really interesting point because that actually became the like the mainstream theory. But what really is throwing a wrench in that.

We've done a few episodes in this is what you showed earlier. It's Quebec Leitepe in Kahara and Tepe. You have city, these complex temple structures with complex neolithic or megalithic architecture that appear at a time where this. convention that what became conventional theory was told that everyone was hunter-gatherers. And now there's no agrarian farming going on here, but you have these very complex temple structures that have mathematics and celestial, lunar, solar alignments that were intentionally buried. And we, according to, I think it was when we talked to Hugh Newman, Nate, it's like

something along the lines of less than 1% have been uncovered or 2% have been uncovered completely. but there's multiple structures across Turkey. And it's just one area in Turkey. But the whole, yeah, it doesn't make any sense. And in fact, they're doing such complex things at this explosion of time that we've kind of surmised on our show that this maybe could have been some of the genesis of the transfer of the watcher, the watcher knowledge or watcher tech we see in Gen 6 is all the sudden out of nowhere,

which is what this guy is surmising too. all of a sudden out of nowhere, they can build crazy things. They have advanced mathematics. They have advanced ideas of astronomy and advanced ideas of lunar. The trigonometry. Yeah, right.

Yeah, the stuff I can't, dude, I can't even do anymore, right? Nate didn't even take trig in high school. Yeah. I knew it all. Never took it in college. There was a rec major. It downloaded right in my brain.

I didn't have to take it. This whole thing about the, Gordon Child's idea is then taught in all the universities and becomes the fairy tale. You know, we evolved. So the creation story of the atheists is Darwinism. And then how did we now get to civilization where we invented farming, we sat around and we talked it over. And this is taught in all the universities as how it over. But it actually goes against a record of archaeology.

It goes against the testimony of our collective ancestors, and it goes against the word of God. And no one knows this. No one knows that actually the facts are different from and then there is older structure as you're talking about the predate farming. So and farming itself. The wheat and barley are wild. You can't farm the kind of vegetation that you can farm also suddenly appears in Mesopotamian with us twice a year harvest. And where did those seeds come from? You know, what was the Garden of Eden?

You know, that was different from the wilderness that was outside. domestic-ed animals. You know, domesticated animals appear on the scene. You know, I look at Abel and Kane, one of them, you know, is cattle herder, the other one as a farmer. These things appear on the stage of history as Adam's children come out. Kane builds the first city of the world, and he calls it Enoch, so he had a knowledge of geometry and architecture.

So we had bodies of knowledge innately and that the angels could then corrupt and pervert for their own use. So when you look at the idea that they were creating priests, kings and yeah you know when Solomon comes his he doesn't build a cigarette because these cigarettes at seven stages but his throne has seven steps to the seat so it's as though you know all of the all of these you know hills will be turned into valleys and and the hill of God you know the throne of God is going to rise when Abraham is called out of Mesopotamia he is told

to come and meet Malchazadek, and God says, this is my priest king. Forget these other priest's union in Mesopotamia. This is my priest king. It's the beginning of the defeat of the structure these guys are trying to create. But prophetically, we're told, at the end of the age, God will allow one more Pharaoh to rise.

One more of these guys who calls himself above all that is called God, Paul says. And in the Thessalonian letter, he says that he will sit in the temple of God and call himself above all. that is called God. So one more time, the dragon gives us power.

One more time there's one of these guys. And they're trying to build, basically, as you were saying, Nate, a pseudo-kingdom. So the universe is God's temple, and the heavenly Jerusalem is the holy of holies of that temple. When we enter the heavenly Jerusalem, this cube described in the book of Revelation, everything kind of fits together. We become the center of the creation, and the entire creation becomes a temple. because God is presences in it and we will be in the Holy of Holies of it. This is the structure and there's a king.

And they know this. There is a structure, it seems that these guys know. So they're trying to imitate it even before it's revealed to us in the Bible. They create kingdoms with priests, kings, and they give their laws. And God sends his son and through the Holy Spirit and the gospel, he destroys all of this and begins the process of filling the earth with his laws and his kingdom. And that's where it's going. there's going to be one more attempt by these guys to try to create a pseudo kingdom,

and the Lord's going to destroy it at his second coming and establish, you know, the one true kingdom. If we apply this principle to, like, you know, the broader, the broader way that Satan influences people, if you don't have the Holy Spirit, do these entities have access to kind of communicate stuff to you? Are people writing books and making films and all this stuff thinking they're coming up with original ideas? Yes. But they're actually being hijacked? If you don't have the Holy Spirit, your temple is empty, if your heart is not set on love God, God,

all your heart, mind, soul, and your heart, which is the seed of your mind in the Hebrew Bible, is not set on things of God. You know, when he says love God, with all your mind, it means that you have to constantly curve the intentions of your heart towards the direction of the kingdom's laws. And people may not always receive like great revelations, like, you know, Francis Bacon or some great, you know, Mason, but they fall within cultural waves that are against the Lord, like all these protests we see or Hamas. Well, this is what they said about Shakespeare. They said that Shakespeare just went crazy and wrote.

And no one knew how he did it so fast. Right. And this kind of Islam or Marxist connection that we're seeing, the Muslims have a vision of the future of the world. It's going to be a caliphate, the universalism of the sun. Everyone's going to become a Muslim. and the Marxists, they have a vision of this technocratic, scientific, you know, Masonic-led future. And they're both threatened by the messianic vision of the prophets of Israel.

And the existence of the state of Israel puts a lot of flesh on the bones of these ancient prophecies. And that's what the Holocaust is about, stop the kingdom from coming and establish an alternative system of rule. So there's a spiritual battle. Now, as far as the plants and Caesar concern, isn't interesting in the Genesis chapter 9, it says, God bless Noah and his sons, and he said to them, be fruitful and multiply and fill the land. The fear and terror of you will be on every wild animal and on every flying creature of the sky, with everything that crawls on the ground, and with all the fish of the sea into your hand they are given. Every crawling thing that is alive will be food for you, as are the green plants.

I have now given you everything. So is it the God that gives seed, that God gives them seed, you know, so that they could actually cultivate and eat? Or did God, you know, create the kind of, because when botanists look at the genetics of wheat and barley, and they compare the wild variety to the cultivable variety, they cannot explain the massive genetic mutation. It's too huge. They don't know how it happened So because you know the goddess Diana Gave the olive as a gift

Right So did they just give laws Or did they create hybrid animals Did they create hybrids? Did they create hybrids? Did they seed the earth With many things? Is not man itself A seed planted on this planet? Is the earth itself not the birthplace The incubation chamber of the immortal children of God

Who have a future? Doesn't all of creation Mone and grown an expectation of the revelation of the sons of God on this planet, like Paul says. We eats a hard one, though, Ollie. We're a hard one because, you know, there's all the people that have a hard time with gluten. Yes, we use it in everything. That's why. Right.

But also, you get things like bourbon from barley and wheat. And so it has very redeeming qualities. All kinds of fruits. In that sense. Well, isn't the original wheat? What is the original wheat called? I'm talking about like the one that they make cereals out of at the health food store? Mace.

Basically, they've been hybridizing it for so long that it's mostly glued now. Iron corn? Ein corn? Yeah, iron corn. Finkle is iron corn? You go to a hipster restaurant and get some iron corn waffles. It's the original. But, you know, going back, what you're saying, Ali, is so fascinatingly interesting because I don't think we always think of God's giving all the tools, right?

And that all these things are God-given that are good and given to Noah. And after he's safe in the flood, but then, you know, why wouldn't that have to have? happen on the other side of civilization too. So these beings that came from the heavenly realms would give to those that worship them. And always, I think there's always this catch. Look at how knowledge has increased since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. Yeah. We're suddenly saying rocket ships into the second heaven. They're preparing us for the great battle of the Lord of the Day of the Lord of God Almighty. When the Lord returns, there's an army from heaven.

They're going to be a war. How do we actually have a war with the angels of heaven with the army of God with the Lord of hosts. Well, they're building our technology up very quickly because the days of Noah were not just the days of the Nephilim. They were the days of an entire civilization that they corrupted the world with the knowledge they gave, with the kings they chose, and with the children they had. That's why I chose the hybrids. The hybrids they had.

Yeah. And they're going to do it again now. You know. Yeah. Say that again, Ali, because I think I want that for emphasis. those three things you chose. They corrupted the earth. It says they corrupted the earth with the knowledge it planted into our minds to create the

civilization they wanted to, with the children they had by placing their own image into the image bearers of God, and with the kings they chose to then implement and govern their occult kingdom. So this is the three pillars of the things, the hooks they put into our world. And so the Lord comes with his own knowledge. He frees us through his son, the new king, a kingdom, a new body. It's putting all this away, but we're still tangled in it. And there's going to be one last kingdom that he's going to allow them.

That's what the prophet. And it will happen at a time where Israel is a nation. And so I think that is an interesting topic to look into it sometime. What is happening in our world from the point of view of the beginning of the UFO phenomenon in 1947, which corresponds to the birth of the nation of Israel, and have we been plunged into prophetic biblical times? And are we now essentially experiencing the war of angels? And is this explosion of knowledge and all that's happening to us in the Middle East?

The consequence of this angelic war that marks all of human history from the birth of civilization to the birth of the religions of the world, to the coming of the Son of God, and to all that has, you know, the entire history of mankind is born of the relationship between us and the world of God and angels. It's epic. I still don't know how there's a whole sect of Christians who can't see that literally, I mean, Satan has taken bags of seeds and just rip the thing open and try to throw them all over the world and corrupt every single thing. And the beautiful part is, is even though God works it all together for good, no matter how much they try to corrupt and destroy and take over, God weaves it all back. Totally. To where humans are saved, to where Jesus comes. through the line of humans, and yet he uses, he doesn't, he uses humanity in the midst of all this chaos, destruction, death, hybrids, and yet there's this little narrow path. God can redeem any

these bodies and knowledge for the use of the throne. Asazel gives the knowledge of military arts and the sword before the flood, but then we see the kings, David uses the sword, so do other kings in order to slay the Nephilim, the hybrids and other things. So then God's eventually in his kingdom, there won't be any more swords in war. you know, decreeing the destruction of the knowledge that has Azizel brought into world. But for a while, he does redeem it for his own kingdom. So all kinds of bodies of knowledge can be redeemed for the Lord that have come from these guys. And that's the power we have in Christ and the Holy Spirit is...

Yeah. I mean, to that point, Ali, don't you think that these bodies of knowledge all come from the heavenly space anyway? So in and of themselves, they are good. It is the corruption of the... the use of these for evil by these Elohimies and their followers that actually corrupt them, right? Because in and of themselves, this is the knowledge of heaven. I'm the throne of Satan that we did last time, the alter Zeus. What you see the imagery is carved around it is that there was the Nephalim, the giants, the titans.

They were destructive, they rebelled, but then Zeus and the gods came, killed them and reestablished order in the world, and that is what gives the Greco-Roman civilization of legitimacy to bring the Jupiterian order to the world and conquer other nations because they are the ones that are bringing order after the chaos of the floods. It's the ultimate stolen valor, right? Stolen valor, they pretend like, well, we did it. You're like, no, no, no, no.

And that's right. That's a no for me, dog. You know, it was Yahweh to put it into this. Meanwhile, it was Yahweh who did. And then he chose Abraham to begin the teaching of his instructions to the world so that his law would fill the earth and that chaos would never happen again. So this, you know, it's the very opposite. It says you were saying that it's a pseudo. Hitler wants to create a 1,000-year-Ra Reich to compete with a millennial kingdom. It's always a

pseudo. It is. There's nothing new from the enemies, just imitating. So the pose of civilization, just remember, the bodies of knowledge came to the world, and then God's knowledge is supreme. So we have to test everything against it, clear our minds, understand the ways of the Lord, and live by it through the Holy Spirit. Love it, Ali. I feel like every time we sit down, this has been a really fun three-parter. And I know this is not the end of our journey together.

This is fun. There's so many, it's an onion. There's so many layers here. But I think this is something that we need to be awake to, right? The understanding of the manipulation of the order of God in order to control, oppress, And ultimately, as it says in John, to kill, steal and destroy. We are of the world of God and angels, and that's why we're involved in such a crazy story.

Yeah, that's amazing. We give way too much credit to humans. Yes. You know, historically, we think that we're just, we're so easily manipulated. We're so easy to put thoughts in our heads. We're like this, you know, in a way that... They create thought veils over the civilizations to compete with God's religion, and there's a study I do where I take every one of these religions and show how they attack the word of God or try to pervert the word of God.

But they create these thought ways of the civilizations. Now, starting with the 18th century, with the rise of, I don't know if you guys have ever had a chance to look at the two Babylonians of Hyssip and the Bavarian school. You know, these guys got together in Bavaria. They were part of an organization that was secret. They were aristocrats and they were going to create a revolution. But then they were caught. And then that's when they looked at their notebooks and saw their notes, they called themselves the Illuminati. So what we see arising from the 18th century in Europe, and it goes from there into Russia and it comes communism and socialism into France, is this thing which pretends is not a religion, but has all the trappings of a religion, creates another worldview veil.

it kind of says let's clear the world from all ideas and everyone will decide through thought and examination and then it fills a void that is created which is actually that's a good I like that idea but then it fills that void with an entire religion of its own with its own creation story there's a Darwinism there's materialism there's atheism and it pushes back the word of God

And now this has become the gateway, this creating a void in the culture has become the gateway that has being filled the wokeism. And with all kinds of teaching, they're targeting the commandments of God and reversing them. Like in Garzid. Yeah. So this is, it appears as to we're not under a thought veil. The Muslim world is, the Hindu world is. No, we are as well. Oh, I was going to say that, really.

Like, if you can't point the last three years and say, there are two divided camps and both think they're, they're equally morally right. Because there's very few people in the middle who are saying, I don't know, it's literally like, don't go home or you kill grandma or don't isolate yourself from your family. You know, it's like two distinct things. It's the exact opposite. You're like, if you don't think that there is an entity influencing the way we think, at this point, at this day, then I don't know how to help you.

When the Lord said you can worship God or money, he says in the Greek, he said you can worship Garmin, which was the God of Money. But was he actually opening the veil for a moment and choosing one of these guys out and saying you can worship God or this guy? Is there an actual, you know, fallen angel in charge of the financial system of the world? Money is so important, right? Sounds like that. So there's an entire, you know, religion here. But the moon god behind Islam, we have found more temples to the moon god in the Middle East than any of the other gods of the ancient world.

So these are ancient entities and powers and principalities. And, you know, God willing, I'm going to write my book. called the three princes, the Prince of Persia, the Prince of Greece and the Prince of Israel. And that's going to really reveal some of the maps and lines where these guys, the dominions they have. And starting from ancient Mesopotamia to modern world. And I think it will also shed some light on the kingdom that comes out of the water and the kingdoms that comes out of the earth in the book of Revelation. But regardless, we are of the world of God and angels. and our history and our reality must be understood in the context of our interaction with these

beings and how they have formed the civilizations of the earth that we're living in how they're still with us how they're now posing as aliens and how they're preparing us on the world for the great battle of the day the lord almighty that's a mic drop thanks ali i mean every time i love it i yeah i'm very Yeah, thank you for this. As always, everyone listening. Ali, share where they can interact with you. Of course, you have the doc that we talked about in the first episode and, you know, Think Again Productions. Yes.

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