Blurry Creatures - EP: 277 Slaying Giants with Dr. Laura Sanger

Episode Date: October 30, 2024

It’s Blurry Con week! In celebration of our flagship event, we’re thrilled to release this compelling session with Dr. Laura Sanger, recorded live at Blurry Con 2023. A beloved figure in the Blurry Creatures community, Dr. Laura delves into “Slaying Giants,” exploring the presence of ancient giants in scripture and revealing insights into how the ancients defeated them—and how we, too, can become giant slayers today. Join us as we delve into the stories of biblical heroes like David, Joshua, and Deborah, who courageously faced literal giants and vanquished the Rephaim--the progeny of fallen angels. What wisdom can we gain from their battles, and how can we bring these powerful lessons into our own lives in the 21st century? Tune in for an enlightening journey through age-old strategies, legendary confrontations, and the keys to confronting the Nephilim agenda in our modern world. This episode is sponsored by:  EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/blurrycreatures Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! https://mintmobile.com/blurry — Get your premium wireless plan for $15 a month when you try Mint Mobile for the first time! COSTA RICA TICKETS! https://www.eventcreate.com/e/costarica2025 You can get our book of Enoch here: https://amzn.to/3xriiUB Support the show! www.blurrycreatures.com/members Socials instagram.com/blurrycreatures facebook.com/blurrycreatures twitter.com/blurrycreatures Music Kyle Monroe: tinytaperoom.com & Parker Mogensen Outro Song: On the Run by TimeCop1983 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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BlurieCon. Get a live stream ticket. That's a two-day pass again that you get to watch at your convenience and you can be right there with us. Again, we've gone above and beyond. This is a one-of-a-kind event, like Luke said, and we've been working for months on this event. So we'll see you guys there in the live stream and there's going to be some audience participation even with members at home. So join us tomorrow and Friday in Franklin, Tennessee via your couch. This episode is from last year's Bluricom. This is the incomparable Dr. Laura Sanger talking about how we slay giants. Enjoy this one and we'll see you all in Technicolor this week. The history of our earth is so different from what we can imagine.

The Smithsonian that if they found out about a large skeleton somewhere was to go get it. assume at least one person is right. Because if one person's right, it bust the paradigm. It all goes back to the fallen church. And the problem with the modern day church, they have a very truncated view of the supernatural. This backdrop that's just pregnant with all kinds of meaning associated

with this Mount Hermon event. And this guy defects from the kingdom. That's a big deal. Thanks for coming. Absolutely, thanks for having me. How was that right in, huh? It was great. All right.

How is the portal? Yeah. Do you like it? Amazing. Very rooming. That's a first. Really? Yes.

You have not been shoved through a telephone booth? No, never before. Things get weird here. Dr. Laura, you've been, you are, you know, a fan favorite on our show. And you just have a spirit about you that's, you know, everyone loves. You know, you've been so kind to us and how we got Dr. Laura on the show.

I love this story. I was asking you to tell the story. It was just like one day I was like, you know, let's just, I was just on Amazon, typed in Nephilim into the book thing. I'm like, let's see some weird books about the Nephilim. See what's out there. And I don't know if that's a compliment or whatever.

But anyway, your book came up and I was like, this sounds fascinating. And I sent you a message, and then you were on the show. And it's just, we've had so many great episodes together and can't say thanks enough for coming on our show and getting blurry with us. Yeah, and I was saying to echo that.

We just thank you for, like, I know trusting us with some of the stories you want to tell because I think that's a great honor. Like, some of the things we've done with you, I just, I think we're so important and I think we're just grateful that we got to talk to you about it, you know, and put it out on our show. So we can't thank you enough.

We're just, we're glad that. we've got to be a part of this singer family, at least a little extension of it, a weird extension over here. Like, those are cousins we don't talk to, but we kind of like it. Oh, there's my family right there. That's right.

Yeah, the whole family came. So we, you know, we've been talking about different topics today that we were going to talk about on BlurieCon, and you said, I'll let you announce it. What do you want to talk about today? Because you have it all lined up.

You are prepared. By the way, Dr. Laura is the most organized gas suite. Like when we reach out, she goes, we get a five, we get like a five-point sermon sent back like and it says, I think we'll just cover these things. I said, that sounds wonderful. Let's see how we can work in some dumb jokes. Yeah.

So my redemptive gift, Romans 12 gifts are mercy and teacher. And so the teacher always comes out in me. Love it. And so I just, I value people's time and I want to make the most of it. And so I'm always asking the Lord for, you know, what is it that you want to share? And before I jump into what I feel like the Lord has for me or has for all of us today is I just, I feel like this is such an amazing space that you guys have created. And I've shared that with you privately.

But I also just wanted to say, like, just in the exchanges this weekend, I was so excited to come. And we had to battle through a horrific storm to. get here. And I want to say a shout out to all my intercessors. I literally had 34 intercessors praying to get us here because we had 21 inches of snow at home. And the roads that we normally take to the airport, it was closed. And Delta had been telling us that our flight might be canceled or delayed. And so the Lord is good. And we made it. And I'm just thrilled to be here. So cool. Yeah. I mean, Nate, I think sometimes instead of a plane, the Lord just sent us a phone booth in it so we're yeah yeah it works a mysterious way fantastic yeah and i think you know

thinking about being here and and just what the lord is doing through you both i feel like you know sometimes the most courageous thing we can do is say yes to the lord and when we give him our yes he takes us in places that we never even dreamed and i feel like you know we're living ephesians 320 And that's that passage that says now to him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine. And I feel like it's just been so beautiful to watch. I mean, I think my first episode with you guys was maybe 51 or somewhere 47. I don't know, somewhere in there. But it's been so amazing to watch them and just how the Lord is just blowing his favor over you

and taking this, you know, to the outer reaches. And the blurry members are so amazing because they just, how they've embraced me and reached out to me, I'm just so grateful. So I'm thrilled to be here. And I think one of the things, too, just, you know, in the last year and a half, the Lord has called me to walk in Ephesians 511, which says have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. And I feel like you guys have allowed me to do that. on your podcast. You've allowed me to expose the darkness. And that takes a lot of courage. And I just am so grateful. And especially, you know, those of you that heard the last interview that we did together with Elle, I mean, that was courageous for both of you to be open to that. And not only that,

like, their heart is just so much to follow after where the Holy Spirit is leading. And without reservation and that's unique especially in this space and so I feel like because you're you're doing that the Lord's favor is just on this and so you know when when we did that interview with Elle you know she was really really nervous and it's hard for her to open up it was only I think the third interview she did but you guys exuded the father's heart in a way that she has never felt before and she told me afterwards she she just she doesn't often give hugs um just for various reasons obvious reasons but and obviously she can't hug you but she says i just want to give them a hug and that speaks volumes to how the lord used you both to exude the father's heart so i am so grateful

you're going to make us blush up here maybe cry i mean thanks lord thank you we're grateful for you So as far as like what I feel like the Lord has for this time together, one of the things that I do before speaking to any audience, no matter the size, is I ask the Lord for the scrolls for each audience because I love being on the receiving end when the Lord is using someone and they're either using a word or a phrase and it brings confirmation to me or maybe they're talking about a concept and I haven't been able to put words to it and they put words to it. and the dots connect. And so a while back, I was like, Lord, I want to be a conduit of that. I want to be used in that way. And so the Lord said, then ask me for the scrolls.

And so that's what I do. And so as I was praying about coming here, I heard the Lord say, it's time to cross over. It's time to cross over from learning about the giants to slaying the giants. And so that's what I want.

to dive into. And, you know, it's important that we learn about the giants. You know, we need to understand the Nephilim agenda and the hybrids and these blurry creatures because Joseo 4-6 says, my people are destroyed from a lack of knowledge. And so it's important that we understand that. But now that we have a good understanding, I feel like it's important that we're equipped to know how to stop them in their tracks. And so I want to talk about how do we become equipped as to become giant slayers. Let's go. Ready?

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So, you know, one of the things to be equipped. We want to learn from the best. Crossbows. What's that? Crossbows, swords. Castlevania whips? I guess it's one way. I don't think where's the Lord's going. I like your enthusiasm. Well, spiritual armor. Yes, for sure. Get your spiritual crossbow out.

Okay. Hey, we still see those. There's still giants out there, all right? You know, come on. Let her speak. All right. I think, you know, we want to learn from the best, and the best are the biblical giant slayers. And so I want to talk about the life of Deborah, Joshua, Caleb, and David. And I think if we dive into a little bit of their stories, like how they conducted themselves, there's a lot that we can learn from them, and there's patterns that you'll hear in the stories that I tell that shaped them to become giant slayers. So Deborah is one of my favorites because she's a woman.

Right. And I'm always inspired by her story. And so she was a prophetess, a judge, and a warrior from the tribe of Ephraim. And she governed over Israel during a time when, you know, Israel was under oppression from this foreign king named Jabin. And during that time, so for 20 years, they were, Israelites were terrorized by Jabin and his military general Cisera. And the level of oppression was so difficult for them, it impacted every aspect of their lives. And so they were, you know, they had, they couldn't travel about freely. They had bandits that would take over the roadways.

And so they had to close their trade routes. Their crops were continually raided. And so they were forced, you know, had food shortages. And not only that, like even the watering holes that they, you know, would try and draw water from. Cicera and his army had archers. And so if you can imagine what that must have been like. I mean, it's hard for me to picture. But they lived like that for 20 years.

I mean, my son is about to turn 20 this year, my older son. That's his entire life. He would have experienced that level of terror. And after 20 years, the Lord spoke to Deborah and said it's time to overthrow the enemy. It's time to cross over. And so she gave that charge to Barack. Now, Barack was her military general, and he was supposed to lead the forces of Israel

to attack Jabben and his forces. But Barack didn't want to go unless Deborah went with him because he was afraid. He gave into the fear of man. Deborah, on the other hand, walked in the fear of the Lord, and she was a warrior without hesitation. You know, she wasn't afraid of Jabin's forces,

even though they were violent, she knew that the appointed time for Israel to be delivered had come. You know, God said it was as good as done, and that's all that she needed to know. And it's because she understood the dominion authority she walked in. And I want to read Judges 513. It says, then he made him that remaineth have dominion over the nobles among the people. And Deborah says, the Lord made me have dominion over the mighty. Now that word mighty in the Hebrew is one that I've talked about on your podcast before. It's the word gobor and many of you are familiar with that having listened to blurry creatures.

And what it means not only does it mean mighty, but it means strong, valiant, giant, tyrant, chief and impetuous soldier or hunter. And it comes from that root word gabar, which means to prevail, to be strong, to show oneself mighty and to act proudly towards God. And the first usage of Gabor is in Genesis 6-4, and that represents, you know, describing the Nephilim. So here we have Deborah saying that she has dominion over the mighty. So she understood who she was, that she had dominion over the giants. And Jabin's forces, you know, they were violent and they, you know, were large in number, but they were no match for Deborah because the Lord had appointed her to have dominion over the giants. And so what Deborah did is she led the Israelites to take action.

And she inspired them to rise up and fight the enemy. And she took her stand at the city gates. And at the city gates is where there was so much oppression and violence. And in Judges 5, 7 through 8, it says, Village life ceased. It ceased in Israel until I, Deborah, arose. Arose a mother in Israel. They chose new gods.

then there were war in the gates, not a shield or spear was seen among 40,000 in Israel. So it kind of gives you an idea of the state of Israel at that point, that every single weapon they had had been removed. And that was Jabin and Sissar's way of crushing any sort of resistance that Israel would mount. And so here they were, they were terrorized for 20 years, had no weapons, and their hearts were filled with fear. so that not once did they rise up against Jabin's forces until Deborah arose. And I love that. And so this war that happened at the city gates, it wasn't a war just in the physical gates. It was a war in the spiritual gates as well.

So spiritual gates is like an entry point between dimensions. And so here you have this epic battle between hybrids and their gods and the Israelites in these heavenly hosts. And we read this in Judges 520. It says, from the heavens, the stars fought. From their courses, they fought against Cicero. Okay, so what does that mean? The stars fought? Were there shooting stars that were falling from the sky?

Not quite, not at least in this story. And what stars represents, it's a word in the Hebrew that represents other heavenly beings. And we see that throughout scripture. And one example of that is in Job 38, 6 through 7. It says, whereupon were the foundations thereof fastened? Or who laid the cornerstone thereof when the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy? So here in this passage, you see that the stars and the sons of God are describing two different types of heavenly beings. And so when Deborah says that the stars fought from their courses, that phrase from their courses,

is the Hebrew word mesala. And it means a thoroughfare, a viaduct, a staircase, a highway, a path, or a ladder. And so that gives us an idea of this spiritual dimension or this like multidimensional battle that was playing out here. So you have the stars access a portal like Jacob's ladder and they entered into Earth's dimension. And from there they fought on behalf of Israel. So they partnered with Deborah, whom God had positioned at the spiritual gates of the city, to be able to fight against Jabin's forces. And so when Deborah arose and fought, so did these stars, these heavenly beings,

fought alongside her to secure the victory for Israel, just as the Lord had promised. And so after they had victory, they had peace in their land for 40 years. And so what the Lord did is he brought a double-privile. portion recompense for the years that their peace had been removed. And so I love the story of Deborah because, you know, first of all, she was a woman, but she was a warrior without hesitation because she knew who she was and the authority that she had. That's awesome. Yeah. I love the picture of the idea that when God calls us to something, that he sends his reinforcements as well, right? There's this idea that like this, we, and Paul talks that we don't

fight against flesh and blood, but against principalities. And this it's a cool, I didn't remember this story, or even this part of the story, but the idea that God backs up his ask and his call on us in the supernatural or in the spiritual realm

with his angelic host. That's pretty rad. I like that. That's cool. It is. Yeah. I feel like, you know, know, when we say yes to the Lord, just like you're saying, he's right there to back us up. And how many times, I mean, for me being here is only because I said yes.

And any one of you, you know, God is called in different circumstances. And whenever we say yes, it's like, okay, he's going to stretch us beyond what we think we can handle. And then he shows up and he shows us time after time after time how faithful he is. And then we say yes again. and he stretches us more and he pushes us out on the very edge of what we think we're capable of so that our full reliance is on him and then he shows up again and it's just over and over he keeps stretching us yeah i feel like you know it's easy to think as a you know a christian reading your bible if these guys were all prepared and everyone was prepared and they were ready to do whatever

it was required of them but i think a lot of times you know every single person in the bible has just as much doubt as we all do, you know? And I really appreciate what you said earlier in the show, the episode here, that, you know, like I don't think Luke and I had any idea this podcast was going to go this direction. But there was just the point where it was like, this is where it's going.

And so we should just let it become what it's supposed to become. And I think that, I think that's similar to maybe how a lot of the people felt, you know, in the Bible when there was moments, they had to make a decision. It didn't mean that they didn't, doubt. It didn't mean they didn't think that it was crazy or they were probably confused, but they just, okay, I'll do it, you know. And I don't think that, I think it's easy to think that everyone just has all this confidence. But sometimes you just, you don't have the confidence,

but you just do it anyway. Right. Yeah. Completely. I think about, you know, so many of the biblical characters, well, Moses, for example, you know, he's like, Lord, I can't even speak. You know, he had stuttering issues. And I love how, you know, we don't have to have it all put together to be used by God. He simply wants our yes. And that's why when I started out, I think that's the most courageous thing we can do is say yes to the Lord. And if he were to show us the big picture all up front, I mean, I would have said no, right? So many of us would say, there's no way.

But he doesn't. He just shows us one step at a time. and if we keep saying yes, it's amazing how he can use us. And I think, you know, one of the things that blows my mind is just how he connects people, like how he connected us. And there's so many people, even here that I've talked to that the Lord is connecting us. But even beyond this room, some of your blurry members, and I believe the Lord strategically connects us so that together we can expand the kingdom of God.

and that's what it's about. And so when we say yes, man, he loves that. Yeah. I mean, yeah, he can even use Jeff Bezos, right? Right. That's right. That's right. Okay, so Joshua, I have to talk about Joshua.

He's probably one of my favorites. I have a lot of favorites. But Deborah, Joshua, and David are clearly my favorites. So Joshua, you know, he was the one that led the Israelites into the promised land. And, you know, he was Moses's right-hand man. And in order for Israel to be able to conquer the land of Canaan, they had to face the giants and they had to slay the giants. And I think one of the most notable battles that Joshua faced was against the five Amarite kings. Kayak gets my flight, hotel, and rental car right.

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afraid of them. I've given them into your hand. Not one of them will be able to withstand you. So if you have a promise like that from the Lord, I mean, that fires you up, right? But you still have to face the giants. You still have to face the battle. And what the Lord did is, you know, by using his hand, he allowed Israel to prevail. But this wasn't an ordinary victory. there was a supernatural intervention from the Lord that was this display of his power and dominion. So what happened is when Joshua and his men, they show up this surprise attack on the Amorites in Gibbon. A lot of the Amirites flee down the road. And what the Lord did is he literally hurled large hailstones on top of the Amorites.

And it says in the Bible that more Amorites died from the hailstones, than from the sword of the Israelites. And the significance of this cannot be overlooked because the Amirates, they worshipped the nature deities, the sun, the moon, and the stars. And so it was so fitting that the creator of the heavenly bodies took the very objects that the Amirates worshipped and used them as weapons to destroy the Amirates.

Now, come on, that is awesome. I love that. Laura, reminds me a bit of, like, when we talk about Egypt and the plagues, it's like, here's God showing his dominion over the gods they worship, right? So it's not just to, I'm going to destroy you, it's like, I'm going to show you that what you worship is lesser. Absolutely. It's awesome.

The story of Esther, you know, the gallows, you know. Yeah. He ended up hanging on himself. So, is it Haman? Yep, Haman. Yeah. It's like these weapons that we're trying to destroy, they didn't be in the thing that, yeah, it's powerful.

Yeah. So at the same time that these like hailstones are falling, Joshua and the Israelites are doing battle against the rest of the Amarites that didn't flee down the road, but they needed more daylight to completely overthrow the enemy. So Joshua astonishingly asked Yahweh to halt the rotation of the earth, never before in the history of creation had something like this happened so the sun stood still over gibbian a full day and you know this the impact of this you think about that that would have been felt all across the planet so all of

creation would have noticed this event and you know it was a statement that that yahweh was making that he to all other nations that Yahweh fights for Israel alone. And even beyond that, you know, it was a declaration to all other deities, like you're saying, that the one true God, Almighty Elohim, was superior over all other deities. And I love that story. And, you know, one of the things that I think I'm drawn to Joshua so much is because he was a man of unwavering faith. You know, we had this promise from the Lord that the Amarites were going to be given into his hands. And he could have sat back. He could have sat on the couch, you know, like we're doing right now and just waited for God to show up and do the miraculous.

But he understood that the Lord's promises are fulfilled when it's met by faith put in motion. And so Joshua wholeheartedly engaged in the battle. He gave every ounce of energy he had to the battle at hand. But what's important to understand about Joshua is he didn't just develop this courage overnight. He had spent 40 years developing an intimate relationship with Yahweh. And, you know, he, as Moses's right-hand man, he had many opportunities to experience the manifest presence of God. In fact, in Exodus 3311, it talks about how Joshua would stay in the tent of meeting. So what that means is he was lingering in the presence of God.

And what he was doing during that time is he was cultivating an intimate relationship with the God of Israel. And what that allowed him to do was walk in the fear of the Lord. Now, the fear of the Lord means that you recognize His majesty and his power and you're in awe of him. And it causes you to walk in radical obedience. whatever the Lord asks you to do, you do because you're walking in that fear of the Lord. You don't care what other people have to say. You're only after pleasing the Lord. And so Joshua walked in that fear of the Lord and that gave him the supernatural strength and

courage to eradicate the giants. And not only that, you know, to ask for the impossible, to ask for the earth's rotation to be halted, I mean, that is bold. And he did that in front of all the armies of vans. Israel and he could do that because he understood and he had relationship with the God of Israel. And I think about that and I'm challenged by it because, you know, I want to be that type of person that cultivates that intimate relationship with the Lord so that when I have to face the giants in my own life or in my community or city or region or nation, that I'm not fearful because I know

that the almighty powerful God fights on our behalf. So that's one of the things I love about Joshua. It's cool. I see that and, you know, kind of what's going on with you. Like, since you've come on a show, I've seen you go on so many bigger shows. And some shows I'm like, wow, Laura's on that show. Wow. That's wow.

You know, and it's cool because I think that, you know, so often some of these topics, you know, it's like there are all these truth podcasts, all these paranormal podcasts, are starting to get deep into the Bible because people are starting to put things together and figuring it out. So it's really cool to see just how your message is spreading. And Luke and I are always just cheering you on. Oh, yeah. You're saying yes. It's phenomenal.

Like, we want Dr. Laura to the nations. Like, I, you always have bring such a great word. So I know we're not even halfway through. So let's... Yeah. I just see it as what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah, it's cool. I appreciate that.

I don't like to get a sunstand still. That sounds fun. That's quite an ask, right? Right. Unless you're on the other side of the earth where it sends not. A day of darkness. That sounds like. So Caleb is another giant slayer.

And, you know, he was one of the 12 spies along the side of Joshua. And the two of them, when Moses sent the 12 spies out into the land of Canaan, 10 spies came back with a negative report. But two of the spies, Joshua and Caleb, they knew that they could take the giants. And they didn't walk in that fear. So Caleb was one of those. And, you know, he was just this mighty man of courage.

And he understood that his strength came from the Lord. And that's what gave him this, you know, this confidence to face whatever giant came his way. And I'm going to read Joshua 14. Listen to what Caleb says. He says, I was 40 years old when Moses, the servant of the Lord, sent me from Kadesh Barnea to explore the land. And I brought them back a report according to my convictions. But my fellow Israelites who went up with me made the hearts of the people melt with fear. I, however, followed the Lord my God wholeheartedly. So on that day, Moses swore to me, the land on which your feet have walked will be your inheritance, and that of your children. children forever, because you have followed the Lord my God wholeheartedly. Now then, just as the Lord has promised, he has kept me alive for 45 years since the time he said this to Moses, while Israel moved about in the wilderness. So here I am today, 85 years old. I am still as strong today as the day Moses

sent me out. I'm just as vigorous to go out to battle now as I was then. And I love that. See, Caleb has this can-do attitude. He was not a man of excuses. And even though he had to wander in the desert for, you know, decades, because the bad report from these 10 spies stirred up the fear in the hearts of the Israelites. He was just as ready to slay the giants at age 85 as he was when he was 40. He did not have a retirement mentality. So here is a person who was passionate about possessing his own.

inheritance, even though it meant he had to eradicate giants from his land. And one of the things that I think is so valuable for us to understand about Caleb is he valued the prophetic word that Moses gave him 45 years earlier. I mean, how many of us, myself included, I've been given prophetic words and I lose sight of them after five or 10 years. Caleb never lost sight of this prophetic word after 45 years. And he had waited for the fullness of time in order to step into his inheritance. And I think this is an encouragement to all of us. You know, we have these promises that the Lord has spoken to us over time. And I don't want us to get discouraged if we haven't seen the fulfillment of that. You know, me being up here and what the Lord is doing through me

are things that the Lord spoke to me seven, ten, fifteen years ago. And I journal like crazy. My husband will attest to I'm a journal-holic. But one of the reasons I do is because I want to record what the Lord has said and how he's moved through me and be able to look back and see the growth in my own life. And the Holy Spirit will send me on these scavenger hunts through my journals. I'll be looking for one thing. And it's like I can't find that one thing.

But what I found instead is what he really wanted me to see. And just recently, I came across all these prophetic words that have been given to me by people I don't know and people I do know or the Lord's spoken directly to me. And I'm living it right now. And so I think, you know, what we can glean from Caleb is that don't give up on the promises the Lord has given you. And listen to what he says to Joshua. He says, now give me this hill crunch tree that the Lord promised me that day. you yourself heard then that the Anokites were there and their cities were large and fortified

but the Lord helping me I will drive them out just as he said and I think that has spoken like a complete giant slayer and I love that. Yeah. I mean, come on that's I think what's brought to my mind and that when you say that is the idea that I can remember word as the Bible that I believe I will see the goodness of the Lord.

in the land of the living, this idea that the things that God has spoken and promised, I'm believing to see them, and I'm living that way. And Caleb did that, right? And I mean, I think it was the 85-year-old just, you know, his old gray hair just getting ready to take on, pick up his sword, right? It's, you're never too young or too old for God to use you. And I, and I think that's a word for all of us, like wherever you're sitting, wherever you're, wherever you are in your life. you're not too far gone, you're not too young, you're not too old, you're not too broken, for God to use you where you are and to use you to his glory. That's a good, that's a good word.

Yeah, all it takes is are yes, right? That's right, yeah. That's all it takes. This is a Bose moment. Your 10 boring blocks from home until the beat drops in Bose clarity. And the baseline transforms boring? into maybe the best part of your day. Your life deserves music.

Your music deserves Bose. Find your perfect product at bows.com. Okay, so David. David is probably the most well-known of the biblical giant slayers, and I think there's a lot that we can learn from his courage and confidence. Similar to Caleb, David walked in the fear of the Lord,

and he understood that his strength came from the Lord, and that's what gave him confidence. And so, you know, Goliath, is using fear and intimidation to paralyze the armies of Israel because they walked in the fear of man. But then you have this shepherd boy that shows up on the scene. And David's father had sent him to bring provisions to his brothers because they were among Saul's fighting men.

And David was, you know, biblical scholars put his age about young teenager at this time when he's facing Goliath. And he had been tried and tested on the fields while watching the sheep. And during that time, David used it to press into the presence of the Lord, to get to know Yahweh up close and personal. So he developed that intimate relationship with the Lord. And because of that, it gave him the strength and the courage to fight the lion and the bear as they were attacking the sheep.

And so here he is now, hearing Goliath spew these insults to Israel. And David is like indignant and perplexed at the lack of courage among Saul's fighting men. And so, you know, David, he didn't give himself over to the fear of man because he had developed that relationship with the God of Israel. And that's why he can tell Goliath in 1 Samuel 17, he says, you come against me with sword and spear and javelin. But I come against you in the name of the Lord Almighty, the God of the armies of Israel whom you have done. defied. This day the Lord will deliver you into my hands and I will strike you down and cut off your head. This very day I will give the carcasses of the Philistine army to the birds and the wild animals. And the whole world will know that there is a God in Israel. All those gathered here will know that

it is not by sword or spear that the Lord saves. For the battle is the Lord's and he will give all of you into our hands. Now come on. I love that passage. It's very, One of my favorites. So imagine, okay, so my youngest is 15. Imagine Zachariah David saying that to Goliath or a 12-year-old or a 13-year-old. I mean, this was a young boy who knew who God was and, you know, was able to stand there with such confidence. And it reminds me of a scene from Prince Caspian. It's one of my favorite movies.

and you know Lucy is standing on the banks of the great river and this vast telmarine army is charging after her and she's on one end of the bridge and she's holding like this little dagger but she's standing there in confidence because she knows who she is and she knows who she's with. Oslan is right behind her and so her strength and courage come from the fact that she knows how powerful Oslan is And she seeks after him all throughout the movie.

You know, she longs to be in his presence. And she can sense his presence even before the others can. And that speaks to that intimacy that she has with him. And that's what gives her the courage to stand there as this vast army is charging after her. And that's that same fearless attitude that David had. You know, when he faced Goliath, this eight-foot, eight-inch giant and this vast Philistine army, he didn't have fear because he knew who he was and he knew that the ancient of days had his back. And I think we can learn so much from these biblical giant slayers.

You know, they understood the importance of timing. And they were willing to wait for the fullness of time to apprehend their inheritance and possess and fulfill their destiny. And that's why I want to encourage us because I believe what the Lord is telling us in this moment of time is that it's time to cross over and possess our inheritance and to step into the fullness of who God's called us to be. And that requires us to be giant slayers. And so I want to speak a little bit about how do we even do that? Because I'm not talking about actual physical guns or swords or that type of stuff. I'm talking about the spiritual battle. And in order to be equitual,

as giant slayers, you know, we have to understand who we are. We are image bears. We've got the likeness of God in us. And we're his representatives here on earth. And what that means as image bears is our purpose is to establish his purposes on earth. You know, we are to step into and exercise our God-given authority to establish his purposes on earth. And, you know, when he, when he, when he lived, died, and resurrected, what he did was reestablish that dominion authority that he's given to us. And when he ascended into heaven, he literally gave us, put on our shoulders, the responsibility of governing earth. And that's why it says in Matthew 1619, it says, I've given you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth will have been bound in heaven.

Whatever you loose on earth will have been loosed in heaven. And so it's our responsibility to reinforce the victory that Jesus already won at the cross. And, you know, when we look at the Great Commission, especially the one recorded by Matthew, it tells us to disciple nations. Well, how do we do that? We have to apprehend heaven's agenda over our nation and bring it into the earth realm. And there's a couple of things that we can do in order to apprehend that. And the first is we want to inquire the king of kings.

What are his purposes for our cities, our state, our region, our nation? And then we want to render the king's decrees through spoken declarations. We want to be good stewards of the land, meaning we want to cleanse it of defilement. We want to uproot any altars of offense that have been established. And then also we want to change the atmosphere over our communities and our cities, our states and our regions, and we do that through informed intercession. And I cannot overstate, man, when believers come together, there is so much power in our prayer. And I spoke about this a little bit last night.

But, you know, we're seeing it right now in our nation with what started at Asbury, right? You have this chapel service. I went to a Christian high school. And Jeff, if you're out here somewhere, he's my Valley Christian buddy. We went to high school together. and we always had chapel. Once a week you go to chapel. I think it was on a Wednesday.

And when you're in that routine, it just becomes kind of blazze. It's what you have to do. And so I'm imagining, you know, these students at Asbury going to chapel on a weekly basis, but there was a handful of them that stayed afterwards.

Like Joshua, they lingered in the tent of meeting, and they prayed, and they repented, and they worshipped, and the Holy Spirit took that and is moving in power. And it's so beautiful. And George Otis Jr., who is someone who coined the term spiritual mapping, he says, it has been said that history, although sometimes made up of the few acts of the great, is more often shaped by the many acts of the small.

Nowhere is this truer than in the realm of spiritual intercession. So I want to encourage us, you know, the just, Giants of our day and age may not have the exceedingly great height of the giants of old, but the power and control that Nephlem hosts wields reaches to great heights in global governance. You know, these Nephlem hosts, their intent on destroying the followers of Jesus. Meanwhile, they're controlling the masses through control, domination, and intimidation. And they want to defile our human genome because they hate the fact that we're created in the image of God. And so they're using GMOs, they're using pharmaceuticals, transhumanism, artificial

wounds, and the fourth industrial revolution as a means to defile our human genome. And I think we're living in both the worst of times, but the best of times. Because as the world gets darker and darker, what that means is the light of Jesus inside of us shines brighter and brighter, right? And so it's imperative that we, understand who we are, that we are created in the image of God, and that as ambassadors of Christ, we have such power and authority inside of us, and we don't want to waste our potential by sitting on the sidelines. You know, it's time to rise up and evict the spiritual forces of evil

that are in our communities and our cities, our nation. You know, they've stolen our destiny, and it's time that we take it back. Yeah. Come on. And I think about, you know, these giant slayers that I talked about, we can walk in their footsteps. You know, Deborah, Joshua, Caleb, and David, they understood the intimate relationship that's needed

to be able to slay the giants. And I think, you know, there's strategy that we can learn from them. not only did they they lingered in the presence of the Lord but by carving out time and spending time with Yahweh they learned they sensed his presence

they learned to hear his voice and they walked in the fear of the Lord and I cannot emphasize that enough I mean so many people in our culture walk in the fear of man we're so concerned what other people will say about us or what they'll think or you know what they're going to post about us

and when we have when we walk in the fear of the Lord, we're only pleasing the Lord. It's like we have an audience of one. Who cares what other people think? We're walking in that radical obedience. So when he calls us to something and we give him our yes, then he meets us with that supernatural strength and courage

that we need to fight the giants of our day and age. And so some of you, I just want to encourage us all that, you know, to think about what is our inheritance. What is our destiny? Has fear of man robbed us of those things? You know, let us be people who are willing to linger in the presence of the Lord and to carve out that time in our busy schedules. Because when we do that, we learn to hear his voice and he can direct our steps. You know, when we hear his voice, it gives us the confidence. We know who we are and we know who he is.

and that infuses, you know, our body, soul, and spirit with power that comes from the Lord. And so may we be encouraged to stand strong and be courageous, because our battle is not against flesh and blood, like you said. You know, Ephesians 612 through 13 says, for our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world, and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. therefore put on the full armor of God. Someone, um, was it today, gave me a wristband, or maybe it was last night, gave me two wristbands that just say that put on the full armor of God. And I just want to thank you for that. I know it was a small token, but every day I put on my spiritual

armor as a reminder that we are in the midst of a spiritual battle. LinkedIn is pretty amazing at helping you grow your small business. We cannot make your email response time faster. We can help you sell market and hire in one place. We cannot help you find space for your three desk drinks. Why do you have three? And while we can't help you find the perfect volume for your presentation video, LinkedIn can help you find the perfect audience for your business.

Grow your small business on LinkedIn. Learn more at LinkedIn.com slash small business. So it says, therefore, put on the full armor of God so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground and after you've done everything to stand. And so I want to ask us all, you know, are we giant slayers? And if we're followers of Jesus, then unequivocally, yes, we are giant slayers. And I want to encourage us all that may we be people who develop that intimate relationship with the Lord,

where we draw near to him and we know the sound of his voice because he'll direct us in the battle. You know, we each have a role to fill in this spiritual battle that we're in. Some of you may be called to governmental roles. You know, some of you like me, may be called to write books or like Nate and Luke may be called to do a podcast or your voice is going to be used in social media. You know, some of you may be called to the court system to fight this battle in the courts. Some of you, I've talked to a number of you that are going to Israel soon. you may be called to strategic locations to break laylines and to uproot ancient wicked structures in the spiritual realm and some of you may be called i mean i've got so many intercessors praying for me

and they're the dearest people i know i couldn't do what i do without them some of you may be like that you're called to your prayer closet where the lord is going to use you to render the king's decrees and i just want to encourage us that you know no matter what role we have, just like in a military campaign, whether it's on the front lines or behind the scenes, we must carry it out with integrity and with excellence. Because when we think about it, the battle for souls is on the line. And so may we be people that give Jesus our yes so that we can join the ranks of other spiritual warriors that are trying to put a stop to this Nephilim agenda.

You know, some of you might be called like Deborah, where you're going to be used to inspire people around you to rise up in your communities and engage in the spiritual battle. Or some of you may be like Joshua and you are bold and you have this unwavering faith and you're going to lead people to inherit, to take possession of their inheritance. Or some of you may be like Caleb, right? We were talking earlier that, you know, you might be old. older in years, but the Lord's saying, do not have a retirement mentality. The Lord has fashioned you over the years for such a time as this to slay the giants and to lay hold of the promises that God has given you. Or some of you may be like David when he faced Goliath and you're younger in years.

And the Lord wants to use you. He's training you right now. He's testing you so that you can fight the lion and the bear in order to be able, in moment in time when God brings you in front of that giant that you can slay the giant. And I want to end just by telling a story of a young man that is like David, and this is my son, Zachariah David. And I should say this too, because many of you have met my family, they all traveled with me, and it's been a blessing.

And each of our kids have learned how to slay the giants that they faced in their life, and they're still fighting giants. I mean, we continually battle things, right? But Zachariah's story is a little bit unique, and so I'm going to share it, and my hope and prayer is that inspires you. So Zachari, when he was born, little did Tom and I know,

but he was in a battle for his life right from the moment he was born. And we didn't discover that until eight months into his life. We were in Washington, D.C., and I was a youth minister at the time, and we had led a team of people to The Call, D.C. I was there.

Were you really? High five. Yeah. And, you know, it's a 12-hour prayer and fasting event. And we were there. 2000? Yeah. No.

Well, I was there in 2000. I was like a tween senior year, high school, and freshman year of college. Yeah. Yeah. We went, Tom and I took our youth ministry in 2000. We went back in 2008. Okay. So this is 2008.

I came to the call Nashville. Did any of you go to that? That was in 2007. I wasn't here yet. San Diego. You missed out. So we were at the call in Washington, D.C., and Zachariah became very ill.

He was eight months old at the time, and he developed a really high fever. He was lethargic. He had stopped eating. And so we prayed over him, and we were believing that the Lord would heal him. We can continue on. you know, with the prayer and fasting event, but he got progressively worse.

And so we took him to the E&T tent, and they said, you need to go to the hospital. So we went to the hospital, and that was a horrific story in and of itself. I won't go into those details, but we were there for a couple of days, and it was a very, very difficult trip, because I didn't know, both Tom and I didn't know why he was so ill, but he just wasn't eating. still very high fever and the hospital couldn't do anything for us. And so we flew home, we're on the flight, in our seats, about ready for takeoff. And I have Zachari in my arms.

And I'm just thanking the Lord that we made it on the flight and that we're going to go home. And I'm thanking the Lord that Zachariah is sleeping peacefully. And so we're taking off and then all of a sudden he gets agitated. and he begins kind of moaning and groaning and he opens his eyes and I start to see his eyes roll back in his head and his lips start turning blue and his face starts turning blue and I don't do well in crisis situations Tom is much better he is our rock and our family and I have Kaylee and Bryson on either side of me and Zachariah is turning blue on me and so I stand up in the midst of takeoff

and I hand him to Tom who's in the row across from us and when I hand Zachariah over the back of his head is now blue and I am thinking I'm going to lose my child on this flight and the flight attendant sees that we're in distress and so he comes up and he goes on the intercom and he says is there anyone on board that has medical background. We have a medical emergency

and thank the Lord there was a nurse on board. And so they took Zachariah to the back of the plane with Tom. And the next thing I see is this flight attendant running to the front of the plane. And I am like internally freaking out and I think my son is dying. We're going to have to do an emergency landing. But this flight attendant was just being incredibly attentive

and he was running to get cold rags because Zachari was on the verge of a feveral seizure. His fever was so high. He wasn't hot to the touch, which threw me off. It was attacking him on the inside. And so they were able to cool him down, and we made the flight, and we got home and went to the pediatrician, did a series of tests, and he had a really unusual urinary track infection. So she was concerned about it, and she said, you need to go get some. some blood work. So we did. And still, I mean, we're believing that there's no problem. Jesus has

got this. And Jesus does have it. But it happened in a much different way than I thought. And so we went and got blood work and we left the hospital. We're running errands. And our pediatrician calls us and she says, where are you? We're at Target. And she says, you need to get back to the hospital immediately. And his blood work, his potassium levels were so high, he could have died of a heart attack at any moment. And so that began our long journey, and he was diagnosed with kidney failure and failure to thrive. And we were hospitalized for 10 days. He had an emergency surgery, and then he was discharged on a feeding tube. And that was a whole other story in and of itself, and that was traumatic.

And it was just one thing after another when he was discharging. discharged, and I never knew from day to day if I would walk in in the morning and find him dead or alive because he was vomiting so much. He would be vomiting up blood, and he often would roll over. You know, the doctors say, don't let your baby sleep on their stomach. Well, I couldn't keep him from rolling over, and I just envisioned him suffocating in a pool of vomit, and so it wrecked me. I fell apart.

for a good year and a half to two years. And by time he was three and a half, he had three surgeries. And what the Lord was doing in him from a very young age is he was teaching Zachariah that his joy comes from the Lord. And he was a remarkable kid, even after his surgery at 10 months old,

an hour after surgery, he's smiling and laughing. And he was like a man. magnet like the the Lord used him to bring hope and joy to the doctors and the nurses they would just gravitate towards Zachariah and so throughout his years you know it's been a long road for him he still has kidney disease when he was in fourth grade he had a dream and he came and shared it with us and that was unusual it doesn't often do that and in this dream he had he was getting an ultrasound which in real life he would get about every six months and in this dream he was

he was getting his ultrasound and then we were back home playing games at our kitchen table and the doctor called and the doctor told us that his kidneys were 100% healed and when he told us that dream I knew that this was a promise from the Lord that the Lord was giving us a prophetic promise that one day his kidneys would be 100% healed and thankfully we've had other people confirm that and so this is our promise like what the Lord gave to Joshua and to Caleb. This is our promise that his kidneys will be healed 100%. Now, he's 15, and he still has kidney disease, but he's a walking miracle.

So his blood work shows that his kidneys are not functioning well at all, and he should be very, very sick. But he is 100% functionally healed. He's strong, he's growing, he's athletic, he's a competitive soccer player. and the nephrologists don't know what to do about it. And essentially, God has him in like this bubble of healing bomb. And we believe that one day his blood work will match up with how he presents. So Zachari has learned how to fight the lion and the bear through fighting off fear,

a spirit of death that tried to take his life prematurely, but also the curses that the medical system places on him. And so the Lord fashioned him so that he could slay the giants in 2020 and 2021. When COVID hit, he was in sixth grade, just finishing sixth grade. And in Salt Lake, we went into lockdown in March, early March. And I was just finishing writing my book. In fact, I finished it nine days after lockdown. And I knew right from the start that this COVID narrative was part of the Nephlim agenda.

And so I began to follow the science that we were supposed to follow, and I read and read and read journal after journal article, and I was discovering the lack of integrity in the scientific fields, and these studies that we were supposed to trust were not saying what they told us they were saying. And so I began writing my own articles, and I was writing government officials, local, state, federal, I was writing our state school board, our local school board,

principals, teachers, to try and awake people that this is deception. They are lying to us. Well, our governor, similar to many others, issued a mask mandate for the school year of 2020, 2021, for all students in Utah. And that was devastating for me. And I remember telling the Lord, I was like, Lord, I cannot put Zachariah in a mask for the entire school year. and I asked Jesus to be our waymaker,

and I didn't know how it was going to happen. So I met, we scheduled appointment with a pediatrician, and I took my big binder of articles that I had read, and I knew I was going to have to state my case. Don't argue with Dr. Laura. That's right. And we walked in, and our pediatrician is amazing. I didn't have to use any of those articles,

and I just said, look, you know Zacharias, You know what his blood work says, but look at him. He is healthy. His immune system has figured out how to deal with his kidneys. I do not want to mess with his immune system by sticking a mask on his face. And he's like, I have no problem giving you a mask exemption. And I literally burst into tears. And he looked at me and he's like, did you not think I would support you?

And I was like, I don't know. I mean, it's become so politicized. I didn't know where you were at with it. And it turns out he was one of the few pediatricians in the entire valley to issue a mask exemption. And at the time, we didn't realize how rare it was. And so Zachariah was going to start seventh grade. And in our area, that's the start of middle school. Okay, how many of you remember middle school and how awkward middle school years are?

I mean, you're trying to figure out who the heck you are and you just want to fit in. Right? You don't want to stand out. You just want to fit in. You don't want to be bullied, like, whatever you do to just, like, kind of make your way through middle school. So I had to fill out all this paperwork so that they would honor his mask exemption. And I thought, you know, maybe 10 to 15% of the student body would not wear a mask that, you know, other parents advocated or were successful in advocating. He shows up to seventh grade, and he is the only person in that entire building to not. not wear a mask. And he went the entire school year not wearing a mask. Even though he was ridiculed by students, teachers gave him a hard time. The campus policeman called him a liar, but not once did he bend a knee to that COVID narrative. Let's go. And I share that story because he was 12 years old at that time. And so if Zachariah David, he's named after King David

and also his grandfather, his Jewish grandfather that's named David, if he can do it, we can do it, right? Yeah. And he is our merch guy, and it's his own business. He spends his own money buying and

designing T-shirts. And the t-shirt for Bluriecon says, Giant Slayer, Our battle is not against flesh and blood. And so I just want to encourage you. You don't, you know, get to know him. He is a giant slayer and we all can be giant slayers. Let's go. I love it. I love it. I was going to ask you, you know, because you were talking about how you journal. I was going to ask you some things that you went through and where you are now, but you did it already. So there you go. Still your thunder. No, it's yours. And I love

that about our podcast is that, you know, Luke and I are We've gone through some things and we just like to, you know, elevate the guests to come on our show. You know, like you guys are the reason the show exists because we, you know, we say we're just too dummies, just asking questions and we have fun with it. But without you guys coming on the show and bringing the content and really giving us some of the framework to ask the questions, and we wouldn't be here without you. And I just love your heart and I love how our fans love you and they love every time I put it. an episode out with you and you just have this infectious attitude everyone wants to be around you and you're easily just a fan favorite and you've made blurry creatures something special

and I think you really challenged me even I remember editing our couple of our first episodes and I was like our show's taking a completely different turn like I had no idea that it was going to go that route Luke's like dude I'm not editing it's all you bro he's like he's like he's like you know I think we had this moment where it was just, I look back at our podcast because, you know, there's a lot of paranormal podcasts, and we've said this a bunch. And you, you know, it's not popular to talk about theology. It's not popular to talk about God. And you have this moment.

It's like, is this going to derail our show or is this going to, you know, limit our reach? And I think Luke is, who cares, let's just, this is what came, this is what's supposed to You know, you came on early in the show and I just feel like God has multiplied as so much bigger and greater than we ever could have dreamed this. I mean, we never would have imagined me sitting here with you at this event talking about these things and just everything you said, I was just thinking about, you know, all these stories, but just this our little story inside of that. And I'm just blown away that, you know, you came on early and helped us really create, you know, what blurry creatures has become. So thank you so much. Yeah. It's been my pleasure. Yeah. All right. All right. Give it up for Dr. Laura again.

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