Blurry Creatures - EP: 287 The Mystery Drones with Tim Alberino

Episode Date: December 17, 2024

Author and explorer Tim Alberino joins Blurry Creatures to delve into the strange wave of drone sightings that have been haunting the East Coast and appearing across the globe. Are these advanced technologies simply modern hidden technological marvels, or do they hint at something far more mysterious related to UFO tech? Could this be a glimpse into secret programs, non-human intelligence, or the unveiling of ancient knowledge through cutting-edge tech? Join us as we explore this bizarre current event and the news unfolding. This episode is sponsored by: https://drinkag1.com/blurry — New subscribers a FREE $76 gift when you sign up. You’ll get a Welcome Kit, a bottle of D3K2 AND 5 free travel packs in your first box! Get our Book of Enoch! https://amzn.to/4gpV4yZ Get MORE Exclusive Blurry Creature Content by joining our Supercast: https://blurrycreatures.supercast.com New Episodes Drop Every Tuesday Blurry Creatures Socials https://www.tiktok.com/@blurrycreatures https://www.instagram.com/blurrycreatures https://www.facebook.com/blurrycreatures/ https://www.twitter.com/blurrycreatures/ Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5uPilMKgeZRAJ2AVwSdFRL?si=09cb60f0aa504202 Listen on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/blurry-creatures/id1526885135 Merch Store: https://www.blurrycreatures.com/store Outro Song: Timecop1983! "On The Run" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Tim's thoughts on what's happening with the drones. All right, welcome back to Blurry Creatures. We got Tim Albrino in the house with the blurry cigar, branded blurry cigar. Tim, welcome back to the podcast. We have been getting tons of emails and messages lately about the drone thing. I thought it would be fun to do a quick update and just ask you some questions about what's going on. Obviously, something is happening in New Jersey

and people are seeing huge drones. Perhaps UFOs, maybe helicopters, maybe, who knows what. But welcome back to Bluey Creatures. Fun little update, Tim, in the studio. What are your thoughts on? What's going on right now in New Jersey? Well, it's very cool to be in your new studio with you guys. Yeah.

Congratulations. How do you feel? You're ready to play some. You remember the past? It brings me back to my childhood days. Old duck hunt over there. What's on the TV? What's in the TV guide?

You ready? I'm not sure it's relevant anymore. It's always relevant. Ted Danson, is that his name? He's got brown hair. You know, that's a good one. But we've done a few updates in the past on the kind of, you're sort of our go-to in terms of UFOs and what's happening. Obviously, there's congressional hearings.

Things happen on the fly. and sometimes our show is sometimes a couple months behind in terms of when we record and release. So this will be fun to kind of address a current event that's happening right now. And I don't know anything about it because we've been so busy recording, producing, and that's the hard part about where we are is sometimes we don't have the hours and hours to sit around and dissect what's happening. Are these videos legit? What's happening? Obviously, there's an uproar.

People don't know what to think right now. there's something happening and maybe there's some confusion of conflating that maybe we're sending stuff out to observe what's happening and people are saying that and they're going, oh, those are the drones, but actually that could just be our own government looking into the phenomenon or whatever. I don't know. Well, the drone thing is complicated. It's a complicated situation that's been unfolding, I think, for about a month now, primarily

on the East Coast and especially in the environs of New Jersey. And there's conflicting information. I mean, the government is saying, first and foremost, the government is saying these aren't ours, but they also don't pose a threat, but also we don't know where they're coming from or who's flying them. So that in and of itself is very strange. and then you have all kinds of people, especially in New Jersey,

who are taking cell phone pictures and videos of objects in the sky at nighttime, always at nighttime. So right away, we probably should assume that some of those are going to be conventional craft, aircraft that's in the sky all the time. I mean, drones are not uncommon. But are they that big? I mean, I don't... Well, this is what I was going to say.

So we can weed out some of those sightings that are probably just not remarkable, that are just your run-of-the-mill aircraft activity, helicopters. A drone in a helicopter at nighttime, if the helicopter's high up in the air, don't look that much different because there's nothing to see except for lights. So if we weed all of that out, we're left with a real phenomenon of these unidentified drones. and I use the term drones loosely here because we don't really know exactly what they are. Although some people have seen, like I heard a testimony of a guy who was working on a phone phone pole, working up on a telephone pole, or something like that.

He was hype in the air. And he was in pretty close proximity to one of these things. And he said it was, it had propellers. It was, he said it was definitely like conventional drone type craft. but there's been reports that these things go dark when they try to put spotlights on them they go dark I haven't heard any reports of any of these drones engaging in extraordinary aerial maneuvers like shooting off at high rates of speed or disappearing

or making right angle turns at high rates of speed of course these are trademark these maneuvers would be trademark of what we would call UFOs so I'm not going to use the term UFOs for these things. I don't know what they are. Nobody really knows what they are. I suspect they are drones. Some of them are being reported, some people reporting that they're seeing objects the size of SUVs.

So if these, in fact, are drones, then we're looking at very advanced drone technology, unmanned vehicle technology. Now, we have that kind of technology. The United States military has that kind of technology, and indeed, there are very large drones in the commercial market. I mean, you can, there are people who own their own drone craft that they can get into and fly around in. But the difference is that those craft can't go, they can't stay aloft for very long without having to recharge.

Even the smaller conventional drones can go out for 45 minutes or something at max, and they have to come back and be recharged. However, the United States military has predator drones that we've used to great effect in the Middle East. And predator drones are what's called over-the-horizon technology where you don't have to have line of sight with those drones, whereas most drones on the commercial market, you have to have line of sight. But certainly, the United States military has advanced drone technology. So does China. China may have even more advanced drones. technology than we do. I heard one of the, I think it was a mayor of one of the towns in New Jersey who said that

he had information that the drones had come from the Atlantic Ocean, that they deployed from the Atlantic Ocean and they... Like it off an aircraft or something? Something like that and they advanced over the ocean and into the environs of New Jersey. So it's not exactly clear what everyone is claiming to see, although there are a lot of of pictures now. I've seen a lot of pictures and videos of these things. They do appear to be drones, to me, to my eyes. Some people have heard the blades. However, one thing that we should keep in mind, even though I think what we're looking at are drones, we should keep in mind that

in the sightings, UFO sightings that have occurred previously in the United States and elsewhere, there has been a phenomenon of what's called mimicking, where sometimes UFOs seem to be mimicking conventional aircraft. That happened at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana, or I live years ago, where you had the nuclear facility there. The warheads were actually disarmed. The facility was shut down by UFOs, a UFO or, Or several UFOs.

How do they mimic? Do they... And these particular, this particular UFO or these UFOs in that instance, actually it was reported that the observers at the base heard, heard the sound of like blades whipping through the air, like a helicopter or something. So many uphologists believe that sometimes UFOs are, for whatever reason, mimicking conventional aircraft.

So that's out there. I'm not sure that that's what's happening here. These drones, these objects are displaying all kinds of different lights. But everything I've seen looks conventional. In other words, it's the same kind of light patterns that we see on aircraft and on drones. The blinking lights, the same light patterns. I haven't seen anything anomalous yet, although we're looking at these craft at night. So again, all we really...

Well, it's weird because a lot of the cryptic report, cryptid reports that, we hear there's a lot of mimicking that goes on um i don't know if it's on it's probably unrelated but you know the creatures will do that they will pretend there's something else and then it just seems like tim what do you what do you make of what the government's putting out there right now because i think that's always an interesting juxtaposition when we we sort of try to you know analyze and evaluate what's going on what are they telling us right so i mean to this morning off the presses senator richard blumenthal is saying that um we should be doing some very urgent intelligence analysis and take them out of the skies.

So shoot them down, especially if they're flying over airports and military bases. They're saying that these didn't come, the Coast Guard saying they didn't come off a vessel. There's no foreign vessels. They essentially said they rule out it being a hostile, you know, adversary or a hostile nation, China, whoever you want to be flying these. And so then we're really just left with what? Either they're denying it. and it's us or it's some you know jersey shore guys with drones that are just are with a lot of money though yeah Jim tan laundry drones right what is a what is a bus sized drone or a car size drone

that's worth probably 50 60 thousand dollars or something like that oh much more than that yeah I mean predator drones are cost millions and millions of dollars and that's what we fight we've been fighting wars with honestly this is like sort of the it's not like some dude could be having a hoax, they'd have to have a lot of money. Those are fixed wing drones, predator drones. However, some of these drones have reportedly, and this is coming from witnesses on the ground, civilian witnesses, reportedly some of these drones have hovered for extended periods of time, even hours. Sometimes it feels like when you get that phone bill, it's like the crash site document, you can't read it. There's a bunch of numbers, random fees, vague language, stuff's

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Is the technology there for hours? Yeah, I think that we have technology like that. And I think the Chinese have it. Okay. Russians probably have some of that. But I think the Chinese are probably leading the world in drone technology. And the reason why I say that is, have you seen the incredible displays that the Chinese have been doing with their drones? Like they make dragons in the sky, breathing fire and all kinds of different things.

It's like a fireworks show kind of. Yeah, they do. They have incredible technology in China. And that's civilian technology. So I have, and it's just my gut feeling that the Chinese are. Are these traditional energy sources or there are some new energy? Yeah, no, these would be conventional energy sources, but very advanced batteries. So there's three explanations that I can think of.

Okay, let's start with the most prosaic explanation, which would be there are. Some agency of the government is flying these drones around for some unknown purpose. Okay. And we can talk about why that might be in a minute. The second option is that we're looking at a foreign actor, that these drones are coming from. There's one of three sources where these drones would be coming from. would be coming from China, Russia or Iran. Now, Iran has deployed drones against Israel, drone swarms against Israel.

And drone warfare, that's... It's like a new thing. Yeah, that is a modern warfare tactic now. We're seeing that, I mean, in Ukraine. The Russia and Ukraine war has been like the one you can watch. I mean, of course, Obama is the famous drone deployer. Like we fought, we've been fighting wars for the last 12 years by unmanned aircraft, right? This is the way, this is the war on terror, right?

Like the idea that we can, we can fight these wars by proxy via drone unmanned vehicles. But what we've seen out of Ukraine in Russia is fascinating because these are, these look like Radio Shack behind me, kind of drones that they just send in. And they literally are just designed to be personnel destroyers. They go and they just, they kill people one by one, which is terrifying. But also this is how. Yeah. Anti-tank?

Yes, they're being fought this way. Well, the scary thing about drones, while we're talking about the second option for an actor, drones can deploy anything. They can deploy missiles. They're predator drones. They can deploy all kinds of projectiles. They could carry a nuke.

Yes. And what's probably even more scarier, I think, in this scenario, is they could easily deploy an aerosoled virus, pathogen. they could easily do that. I think that's one of the most distressing thoughts here. These could be like chemtrail drones, as we're saying. Yeah, but instead of just the typical chemtrail chemicals, they could be deploying a dangerous pathogen,

like anthrax, for example. I mean, that to me is why this is so disconcerting. That's the second option, a hostile foreign actor, right? And again, I said China, Russia, or Iran. and understand if it's Iran, then it's Chinese technology. Iran's not making these drones themselves. They're getting into technology from China and Russia, but I think primarily from China. And then the third option is UFOs, UAP, that this is not a human phenomenon, that these are, it's related to the UFO phenomenon and NIH, NHI, non-human intelligence. Those are the three options on the table. Now, I personally am persuaded.

thus far that what we're looking at is actually a foreign actor. And I think if it's a foreign actor, it explains why the government is being so mum about it and in fact more than that are are misleading the public, if in fact they are misleading the public, because they don't want to create panic first and foremost. They don't want to admit that the technology being deployed is they're having a difficult time tracking it and taking it down. there are reasons why they wouldn't shoot this technology out of the sky. There's two reasons. One reason is because it may be carrying a dangerous payload

and they don't want to ignite it, right? If it's carrying a pathogen or something like that or if they don't know what's on these drones, then that would be a reason not to blow it up, right? Especially if it's got some sort of nuclear device on it. Okay, that's a really good reason to be careful if you're the government. But then the second thing is let's assume for a moment that it is China. then what you're looking at is an act of war.

And essentially, if the Pentagon were to acknowledge that the Chinese are flying drones, even if they're not hostile, because one of the things we didn't, even if the intent is not hostile, it is because it is, no matter what's happening, if this is a foreign actor, this is an incursion into our airspace by a foreign actor. So that is technically a hostile position. it's not the word I want. Posture is the word I'm looking for.

It's a hostile posture. But we don't want to go to open war right now with China. I mean, that's what that would amount to. If we were to say, okay, this is China. They are hovering over some of our military installations, infrastructure, because there's been reports that these drones are hovering over important infrastructure and secured airspace, then this is an act of war,

and it would mean war. It would mean world war, actually, is what that would amount to. So I think there would definitely be a hesitancy on the part of the government. One last thing I would like to say is, aside from the payloads that these drones can carry, including, as we said, nuclear devices,

they certainly can be equipped with all manner of surveillance and reconnaissance technology. Deep underground penetrating radar. I have a drone that has deep underground radar penetrating radar. A dumb drone? You call it a dumb drone? A dumb drone operated by dumb people.

And what's used to say that like all the above isn't happening? And do you think UFOs can sort of commandeer some of these narratives and sort of throw some smoke screen out there and get us? skittist riled up, I don't know. Whoever is perpetuating this phenomenon, human or otherwise, wants to be seen. They want it, it's conspicuous. There's lights flashing in the sky.

They're flying at low altitudes. They're hovering around. It's all over the news. They want to be seen. It's a display. Okay? Yeah. It is a display.

Now, there is a possibility. It is some element of the government, as I said. And Lou Elizando said this this morning. I was listening to Lou this morning, and he said that maybe, and this is just a hypothetical, maybe some agency of the government has learned about a threat and they're looking for something, they're scanning for something. So it could be our own technology, or these drones are responding to hostile drones or UFO activity. And it's, so you have both of those, you could have both of those things in the mix. And so you see why there's so much confusion.

around this because the government, listen, I'll tell you one thing. One thing I think I can say with certainty is that elements of the United States military know exactly what these things are. There's no way they don't. We have radar. We can track these things. We can see an infrared. We have satellites. We can look at these things from space. Sure. In both infrared and with high-resolution cameras. Night vision, thermal cameras. We know what they are. That, it's a lot. that we don't. That's a lie. Yeah. We know there's elements of the United States government. Now I will say that now I have some friends in Congress and they haven't been briefed on this yet. They don't know

what this is. And the governor of New Jersey, what's his name? The governor of New Jersey, I can't remember his name. He's upset right now because nobody is giving him any answers. The mayors of these towns are upset. They're not getting any answers. The government is playing dumb. Is this related to the election at all? Well, reportedly, drones have been hovering over a Donald Trump's golf course, I think in New Jersey. Is it in New Jersey? There's been drone cited hovering over Marlago. Now those could be just some idiots flying their own personal drones over Marlago. Listen, where we stand right now in society with drone technology, it's very, very difficult to monitor and control drone activity. Anybody can fly a drone anywhere,

and it will take the government. If you fly a drone over Area 51, they'll probably just shoot it down. But you could probably get that, especially at night time, you could probably penetrate pretty far onto that property before that drone gets knocked out of the sky. It's an interesting point, Tim. I've got a, of a buddy who is in one of four-letter agencies who is telling me that his intelligence, the briefing they were given for protective services was, is that the new angles for assassination attempts are going to be drone. And they are actually equipped with technology to, the, to shoot them out of the sky. Not like conventional weaponry, but these guns that disable and pull down. But that's what

it's going towards. It's going towards these are going to be used as assassination devices. And just a caveat. What I love about this conversation is we did this with the face peelers. We talked about this like this like this, right? We talked, and I like the pragmatic aspect because it's in spaces that we, that we and you and us are in, it feels like these things, this pendulum swings so far. This is a blue beam. It's a sci-op to this is you know nothing right or Amazon delivering Everything in between right

To your point though maybe think of something Tim flowing ad budget on metrics that look great Till the CFO sees them That's bulls bend And marketers are calling it out in Dashboard Confessions I remember telling my boss It'll be good for the brand

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Give me off a piece of that kid. Off a piece of that kidcat bar. Have a break. Have a Kit Kat. Do you remember when the balloon, the spy balloon, flew all the way across our country, and they didn't shoot it down? No, they didn't shoot it down? Which is interesting.

No, they did at the end. Then they shoot. Over the Atlantic. Yeah. No, that's a good point. There's a lot of noise being made in the media about those balloons. And there is now. The media is making a lot of noise about these.

I saw it this morning in the hotel lobby. They were talking about these drones. So the media is paying attention to the drones, but there's nothing to report. What are they going to report? Nobody's giving anybody any answers. I heard, there's a lot of, there's lots of stuff floating around out there. Who knows if any of this is verified or authentic? I heard that it has been announced to,

again, take this with a grain of assault, to the citizens of New Jersey, that it is a federal offense. It will be considered a federal offense to shoot any of these drones out of the sky. Now, on one hand, I can understand that, because if there are very large objects and you shoot it down, it's going to land somewhere, and if it lands on the highway and traffic, it could kill somebody. So I get it. That makes sense. However, this entire thing is very bizarre. And I am going to say, and you mentioned the face peeler thing, I am going to say, I, I'm getting a little bit of face peeler vibe here with this whole thing. It's kind of in the background.

It's nagging me. I'm getting a face peeler vibe here. I'm not saying that that's what this is, obviously not face peelers. But in the same way that when I went out there to investigate that phenomenon last year out in the Amazon, these assailants who were attacking this village, they were using a very advanced form. of what we might describe as drone platform technology. I don't know what the technical term of hover technology.

They were using an advanced form of that, much more advanced than any of the hover stuff that you see out there today. It was something like that, but more advanced. And so in the same way, these drones are something like the drones that were familiar with, but not exactly.

They're more advanced. So as I said, I'm getting a little bit of a, face peeler vibe here and who knows well that's a great i think that's i think the gist of that episode in terms of what i took away from that is that you have something happening and then you have sort of this reaction and then a bunch of things kind of come out that distract you from there is something happening right and i feel like you pick any rabbit hole in our space you go down it it's like oftentimes i go down the 9-11 rabbit hole there was something going on that day but then there's all this

other stuff that happens to distract you from some key elements of the story that can actually blow the whistle on some nefarious activity. And I think what, if there is a nefarious thing happening here, wouldn't the government or some of these people who don't want this stuff to come out, set out a bunch of drones and distract the people? And then we have an easy explanation of what's going on. That's, yes, that that's a good point. Let's say, for example, that there is legitimate UFO activity happening at large scale in mass over New Jersey. I don't know if that's true or not, but for the sake of argument, let's say that's true. So one of the strategies, if you are in the intelligence community and you have to take care of this situation, a good strategy

might be deploying a bunch of drones to obfuscate the reality of what's actually happening, put a bunch of drones in the air, and then later you can say, after concluding our investment, We determine that. It's drones. Yeah, Amazon was delivering Christmas packages early and nothing to see here, everybody. Right. So that certainly is in play as well. I mean, you could have legit, like I said, it could be a both-and situation.

You could have legitimate UFO activity afoot and drones being deployed for whatever reason, either to obfuscate the situation, throw in a, throw in this wild card. just to confuse people. Or it could be government drones being deployed to try and... Mudy the water. Capture some... Yeah, you muddy the waters, right?

Exactly. It becomes confusing. You're throwing a bunch of paper clips along with the, you know, when you're metal detecting, you put a bunch of other metal. It's what we talked about with that. Yeah.

Soka, right? Yeah. When she poorly went to the UFO crash, what the government did after their retrieval is they just, they spread tin cans everywhere. so that if you were looking. With a metal detector, beep, beep, everywhere you go, you're gonna get.

It's the same idea, right? Yeah. Well, yeah, and every rabbit hole we go down, it seems like D, all the above is the answer. There's always a bunch of stuff happening. It's never really one clear answer. There's never really one specific, oh, this is exactly what's happening.

You look at even some of these, you know, just major events like Pearl Harbor or anything, pick anything. And there's always a bunch of weird stuff happening. And it's like we know, but we don't know. and we're never sort of caught off guard. And I think the government obviously knows what's going on. Like you said, they have this all these.

Yeah. But, you know, so it makes it, unfortunately, it just kind of fuels the TikTok, Instagram generation of everyone has a theory in a post. And it's just nobody knows what's going on. Let's say, and just to illustrate your point, look, let's say that I have a ping pong ball here and it's colored red.

this ping pong bar represents some truth, some undeniable concrete truth. But I don't, it's going to get out there this truth because of the nature of the information age. I know this truth is going to get out there. So I can either go and try and capture it or conceal it, but that becomes too conspicuous. The public then begins to catch on, right? A better strategy, and this happens all the time, is let's say that this red ping pong ball represents the truth and I'm going to throw it to you

and you're going to catch in other words I'm relaying this information to you and you're going to catch it so I'm some whistleblower putting it out there in the internet you're a consumer here comes the truth

what does the government do they take a dozen red ping pong balls or a dozen ping pong balls and throw it at you at the same time so that red hair it's very difficult it's very difficult to differentiate between

the signal and the noise at that point And even in this case, there's a lot of noise going on from the government, from the people capturing the drones in the sky, and then from the internet. I mean, Twitter is ablaze with all kinds of conspiracy theories. And the one I think we should probably highlight here is blue bean. Anytime anything extraordinary happens in the sky, you have all the blue beam birds chirping. Blue beam this, blue beam that. Everybody comes out with the blue beam explanation. And Project Bluebeam is...

Holograms. Basically, I mean, it's different things. There's no one thing that Project Blue Beam is, but it began actually as a fake second coming of Christ, as a conspiracy to fake that, which actually I don't discount that. I think that may be in play in the future. But primarily when people hear Project

Blue Beam, they think of a fake UFO invasion. So what in their mind, a lot of these people don't believe UFOs are actually real. It's all our own stuff anyway. Or you got guys like Stephen Greer who think all the aliens are real, but they're all good guys. And the bad guys are the human beings. And so what we have all of this technology out there that's ours that we've derived perhaps from aliens, but we're the ones who are using it for nefarious purposes. And Project Blue Beam would be a combination of technologies, including holographic technologies, to fake an alien invasion. So every time something happens,

Blue Bean, Blue Bean, Blue Bean, Blue Bean, that's like, it's just permanently fixed into people's minds that this is a SIOP. This is Project Blue Bean. Well, SciOps are the equivalent to a different type of ping pong ball that you're throwing out there, right? That's true.

It's like we have physical PSIOPs, We send up the drones, and then we put these theories into the public as well to keep people from actually figuring out what's going on. It's just a different form of psychological warfare that I think a lot of people in our spaces, and Luke and I are constantly dealing with this and the criticisms is that we're not seeing it clearly because we're not down this sciop rabbinal. I think there are so many siops in this space, and it's really hard to make sense of anything all the time, but I didn't think about that and that I just connecting the dots that it's physical. and it's ideological. We can fight the war if we're the information gatekeepers throw these ideas out there.

People are going to be down the wrong rabbit holes. They're going to think the UFO phenomenon doesn't even exist. It's just all smoking mirrors. It's all holograms. It's not a real thing. And we've got a quarter of the population

confused. You have both sides of that equation. I mean, you have people now saying, see, all UFO sightings are just drones. Exactly. And then you have people on the other side saying, see, this is Project Bluebeam and the government.

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You're talking to congressmen about that. is this trying to maybe throw some water on that fire? Like, yeah, there's just drones, guys. No, you know. I was going to ask that in maybe just a different way a little bit. Like, say by the time that this video, this episode comes out, we know what it is. They tell us, or they tell us what it is, right? How do you think this fits in, it's kind of as Nate was saying,

how do you think this fits in this trajectory, it seems, right? We talked about Congress and oversight committees. We talk about, you talk to congressmen. we talked pre-roll about skiffs and disclosure of what people know, right? Sort of this pathway to disclosure, whether or not that actually happens. But what do you think this might fit? So let's just say this comes out and they've said, this is what it is, guys.

It's a bunch of rednecks, which I love the videos of like the rednecks that are shooting down the cop drones. And it's like two guys in flannel. The last picture is them like shooting it down. I mean, but let's say by the time this comes out, they tell us what it is, quote, right? It's a foreign actor. It's just our stuff.

It's nothing to see here. But if that's the case, and if you suggest or hypothesize perhaps the government knows what this is or is at sort of the impetus of it, how do you think this fits maybe in, if you're just prognosticate a bit in sort of this arc that we seem to be on towards disclosure, whether it be government oversight committees in Congress or the idea that because it's weirdly feels like part of the timeline. like it or not, right? And they may discredit the whole thing, but do you think this fits in sort of the meta-narrative, if you will, of the UFO disclosure, potential disclosure? It depends what the explanation for the phenomenon is. I have, I'm developing right now a theory. It's more of a suspicion that we all know that back in 2017, the New York Times published their explosive article on the Nimitz incident and that sort of got the ball rolling for everything we're seeing happening now in the realm of disclosure. That resulted in the two hearings, the two hearings we've had

at the congressional level and really has increased public awareness and interest in the topic of UFOs. And the government, it led to the formation of the government's official UFO investigative body, arrow. I'm wondering if what happened, let's go all the way back to the 20 teens, the Pentagon knows that the Nimitz footage is going to leak or has leaked already to journalists. Okay. So let's say I'm a government operative. I know the Nimitz incident video that was captured on the gunship of that Hornet fighter jet.

that that legitimate video with no conventional explanation, that's beyond any sort of conventional explanation, that is going to go public. If I'm thinking long-term strategy, what do I do? I do exactly what we talked about before with the ping pong balls. Rather than try and shut that down, they used to do that, back in the early days, back in the 70s, 80s, 90s, going all the way actually back to the 40s.

They would just try and shut it down and even kill the people. who were trying to... There was like three channels of... There was like three news channels. Yeah, exactly. It was very easy. It was very... And there weren't cell phones in everybody's hands and all of that. That was a different world.

So what am I going to do? A good strategy would be, okay, let's caretake this narrative. Let's cater this narrative. Let's be in control of it. The Nimitz video is going to be out there. Let's not deny it. But let's also leak this one.

Let's leak. So there's A, B, and C videos coming out. Let's make sure one of these videos that we are going to leak to the press, that it gets clumped together with the real one, and let's let this, let's give this thing legs. Let's let the New York Times report on it. And let's allow these hearings to go forward, and let's talk about these videos.

And then, in addition to that, let's create a UFO investigative body, arrow. And let's pretend. Let's give the appearance that we're taking all of this very seriously. UAPs, you know, we don't know what they are and we're investigating. And then when this thing gets far enough, let's have our investigative body arrow debunk the one that we planted. That's all it takes to, that's all it takes to dissuade. public interest in to hamper public interest in the topic and to dissuade congressional

investigation if you can just debunk one of them yeah and that one may in fact be the go fast video there's three primary videos that that came out and the pentagon acknowledged that all of these are real they're real videos they didn't say what they are what they depict but they're real you have go fast gimbal and the TikTok video, the Nimitz incident. TikTok, there's nothing that they can do with that. I mean, that was captured. It was locked on by a fighter jet. It's mathematically substantiated in terms of the speed that that thing was moving, the size, everything.

That is just scientifically confirmed. That one you can't debunk. Right. But GoFast is something different. Now, Go Fast may be, and Go Fast is the one that's just a, like an object that is seen moving above the ocean. That's different. That's a different context. And so my suspicion at this point is that Go Fast was planted and that this entire narrative was catered so that the government itself, through its own investigative,

body could come along at a particular point, which is happening now, and say, oh, we, we can't debunk this one yet, the Nimitz incident, the Tick-Tac, but we have resolved this one that came in the package. You're planning doubt. And that alone is enough, exactly, to plant doubt in everyone's minds to give all of the debunkers ammunition, to quell to some extent interest in the topic, to make congressmen who are investigating, maybe step back from it and say, wait a man, I don't want to look like an idiot here. I don't want to look like a tinfoil conspiracy nut. It's going to come back to bite me.

That is my suspicion. I conveyed this suspicion the other day in a phone call with a congressional member of that committee, of the UAP committee. Yeah. And I explained to him everything that I just said to you. And he texted me back a few minutes later and said, I just spoke to David Grush. he says that's happening. That's true. Yeah. That's it. So we have to be very careful here. Bird-dog in it, Albarino. The government is very crafty.

I'm talking about the intelligence agencies. I'm talking about elements of the Pentagon. They're very crafty. They're going to get ahead of the narrative way in advance, and they're going to cater that narrative, and they're going to ensure that they get the result they want. We have to be very, very careful. Yeah, they create the crisis.

they own the crisis investigation team they hire the crisis actors to come in and say all the thing so it's like it's a it's a 10 level sciop where they own all the pieces they own all the pieces they own the good guy they own the bad guy the one that they can't control it doesn't matter because they've got so much noise yeah they've got so much noise that signal is drowned out in the noise well you've heard it hear third from the blurry basement because we don't you can't control the information these days. It's out there. And something's going on in New Jersey. And I love these discussions, Tim, that we can kind of talk about these things. It's so hard because people look to us, like, as if we know. And I think a lot of the times we just sit back and wait

and kind of go, I don't know what to think about what's going on right now. And I think everyone has an opinion. And especially a lot of these channels, they just want to say, this is definitively what it is. But I think we try our best to go, I don't know, let's look at it. But it's always good to have you in the studio. And obviously, it seems as though, Luke, every time we, something's happening, you're here. Either we're doing an interview about something else or today. And I just magically appear. Yeah, it's like, yeah, you're like the cigar in hand. Yeah, exactly. You're like, the Butler and Mr. Deeds.

Like, I'm here. You're like, there's Tim. There's Tim. Well, you know, we, I don't know if we got any answers, but something's happening. Well, there are no answers right now. And anyone who thinks they have answers is just kidding themselves. Yeah, watch out. Seriously, watch out for those people because this situation is so confusing. How can you resolve something when all you have are pictures of lights in the sky? Again, I will state that so far, as far as I'm aware, none of these objects have displayed extraordinary aerial maneuvers. No right angles at high rates of speed. They're not disappearing. They are going dark, but that's easy. Is it hard to turn off? Is it hard to program a drone to turn its lights off, if there's a light source that's focused on it. No, that's not hard to do.

Civilians could probably do that with drones that are available in the commercial market. So let's be careful here. So far, I personally have not seen, and I'm holding out for more information, you know, before I make a determinative statement here. But I have not yet seen any kind of maneuvering, aerial maneuvering that would suggest that we're looking at a legitimate UFO phenomenon here. However, that's on the shelf. Welcome to Sephora. I'm looking for a perfume that's not too perfuming. I got you.

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I, let's get you a basket. That's on the shelf. I personally believe at this time, with the information that I have, observing the phenomenon, talking to different people, I think what we're looking at is a foreign actor that is making incursions into our airspace. The Pentagon does not want to, if the Pentagon admits that, by the way, doesn't that make them look really stupid? It's the China balloon again.

Exactly. And the Pentagon is not going to do that ever. They're not going to tell them. the public anything that makes them look stupid or incompetent or or weak as you said. Yeah. And so I personally believe what we're looking at here is an incursion by foreign actor with exceedingly advanced drone technology, albeit conventional. And it's likely, in my estimation, China, Russia or Iran.

Russia is the least likely actor here in my estimation is China or Iran using Chinese technology. Now, that's not 100%. that's not my final assessment. I'm so far persuaded that that's what we're looking at. Well, you know, the technology's gotten a lot better since 1985 in the basement. I remember my brother got a helicopter on a wire from his birthday, and it would fly up like, you know, maybe five feet off the ground, and then it would flip back and hit you, and those blades hurt like nothing.

So he would chase us around the backyard with this helicopter on a string from, this is like 1987, and that thing would hurt like heck. So we can rule out the Irish, it's not the Irish. Irish drones. Those guys aren't doing it. The Irish drones, yeah. But yeah, it's confusing. Thanks, Tim. Thanks for coming on Blurray Creatures and giving her some of our listeners an update. And we'll keep an eye on this one. We'll see what happens. But you can get this book right now. Where can we get it, Tim? And what are the other parts of the book that we can get? Throw a plug out there.

I believe we can get this book at blurrycreatures.com. And signed copies. Signed copies. That's right. We are, we're going to wear our hands out later signing a whole lot of copies of this book. Yeah, but what I like about our copy or our audition with bias, of course, is that we talked a lot about the book of The Watchers, right? The first portion of this is really applicable to Genesis 6 and what's referenced in the New Testament by the author of Jude and by First Peter. But there's also commentary there. So a lot of the ideas that we espoused today and expanded upon today and addressed today within this book are. a lot of those thoughts, Tim, that you have about these things

are also written, along with the connections to the scriptures. So you can get a lot of this as you read with a commentary on the Book of the Watchers and, you know, Blurricreatures.com, also Amazon. You can find it.

You get on Amazon. We have our audio version up, which, by the way, is read by the very talented John Moore, who's a professional voice actor. You're not going to hear better. We have the best,

I think we can say this confidently. We have the best audio version of the book of Enoch anywhere. It's just, John did a phenomenal job, John Moore. It's just like butter in your ears listening to that. So you don't want to read, you can listen to it. You can listen to the dulcet tones of John Moore. That's right.

Or if you want to read it digitally, of course you can get the Kindle, the ebook version, also on Amazon. And it's an important conversation, right? I mean, I think the first episode we talked a lot about some of the initial pushbacks to, we did the macro nerve, but also like, it's not canon and it's not, the things that people have these initial dangerous monoculars with, right? And then also a lot of that's addressed in your introduction. In the introduction, that's what I was going to see.

Where do the book of you not come from? That's right. You know, why do we think we can trust it? What did the early church fathers think about? 100%. By the way, the introduction is about those things. It's not about Eden and all the other things we were riffing on today. It's about the book of Enoch.

I wrote the introduction, and it is, you are going to discover why it was rejected, what happened to it, where it was discovered. There's a very interesting story right at the beginning that most people don't know about the man who discovered it. He happened to be a Freemason of the Scottish Right. And he was in Ethiopia when he discovered it, and he might have been looking for the Ark of the Covenant. So there's a very interesting story at the beginning. And I walk through the dating of first Enoch, the difference between first, second, third. This contains all three, by the way. Our book contains all three for those who are interested to read second and third Enoch.

So it's a very scholarly approach in both the introduction and the commentary. So people who are interested in just, like you were saying, you just want to know what the book of Enoch is, where it came from all of that. It's here. It's in this book, too. I'd like to remind people, too, that the oldest copies that we have, of the books of the Bible, far and away, come from Qumran in the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Fragments of the book of the Aramaic.

So of the Bible, the oldest copy of Isaiah. That's right. There's fragments of numbers found from 650 BC, but these are predate Christ and the second most copied scroll by the Aesans. And found in Coomron is the book of Enoch. So everyone who likes to dismiss Enoch as a modern phenomena or as something that is post Christ or lifted from the New Testament, that really blew

that narrative up. So not only is there provenance back to BC times before Christ, but it also, at least to these scenes, was so of such paramount importance that it was one of the most copied read books by that sect of Judaism then. And also what I think will surprise a lot of people is the remarkable crestological content in First Enoch, specifically in the book of parables, which is one of those older sections that I was referring to before. A lot of people aren't aware of this. We documented in the book, you will see how profound prophecies pertaining specifically to the son of man, i.e. Jesus of Nazareth. are in the book of Enoch. And by the way, in Revelation, what does the angel tell John?

That the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. So if you have a document written long before the birth of Christ, testifying of Christ with the same degree of accuracy of those verses from Isaiah and elsewhere in the Old Testament that describe the death of Christ, the same kind of accuracy is in the parables of Enoch. testifying of Jesus of Nazareth. This is one of the primary reasons why the Jews rejected it, why didn't get into the canon of the Jews.

And this is one of the primary reasons why many of the church fathers defended it, including Tertullian. I love it. Well, thanks, Tim. I think one of the best ways to interpret the story, and especially when we're reading the macro narrative is in familiar terms,

you know, that there's a family involved. It's always about this idea of the family and the son of God being, you know, having a relationship with his father. And I think that, you know, was something that the watchers wanted and they lusted after. And it's this whole narrative of family that, that I think is lost in the church sometimes because, like you said, we conceptualize these things as far away. They're not here. It's not, it's not, there's no, you know, connection between heaven and earth, but there is, you know, there's a, there's a great connection. I think that's

what Eden was. And I appreciate these conversations. I think it's been a huge part of our podcast from the get-go. I think we had you on episode 19 from the beginning, and here we are almost 300 episodes in. So thank you so much for coming on our podcast, coming into the basement, the blurry basement, hanging out with us, getting a little nostalgia, but also, you know,

breathing another round of interest into this ancient story that we're all a part of. And the weird blurry things that people still experience at this day, whether it's abductions, UFOs, Bigfoot, all this stuff that it's on the fringe that we talk about here. So thanks, Tim. and uh thank you gentlemen yeah we'll see in costa rica we have a few more tickets available that's right

yes yeah so if you want to join us in costa rica and this is this is like costa rica what's happening yeah yeah i mean it was up of hawaiian shirts and they're just as hot in here too yeah i think we have about seven or eight tickets left so if you want to join us in costa rica go to blurriercrucum main page just hit the link there's a there's a few tickets left you can come hang out with us we're going to be doing a lot of these discussions on the beach we're going to be having more time to hang out. Kind of like a blurry vacation, if you will. And thanks, Tim. Appreciate it. Thanks for coming in. Of course.