Blurry Creatures - EP: 290 The Unexpected Encounter with Cody W.

Episode Date: January 2, 2025

A weekend escape turns into an otherworldly nightmare when a group of brothers heads into the wilderness for some much-needed downtime. What begins as a playful attempt to signal an apparent UFO with a laser pointer becomes a spine-tingling encounter when the craft responds. But the strangeness doesn’t end there. Back home, one brother begins to experience eerie phenomena, leaving them to question: Did they inadvertently open a door to the unknown? Join us as we delve into their chilling account of an accidental summoning and its unsettling aftermath. COSTA RICA TICKETS! https://www.eventcreate.com/e/costarica2025 Get our Book of Enoch! https://amzn.to/4gpV4yZ Get MORE Exclusive Blurry Creature Content by joining our Supercast: https://blurrycreatures.supercast.com Blurry Creatures Socials https://www.tiktok.com/@blurrycreatures https://www.instagram.com/blurrycreatures https://www.facebook.com/blurrycreatures/ https://www.twitter.com/blurrycreatures/ Merch Store: https://www.blurrycreatures.com/store Outro Song: Timecop1983 Special Thanks to our Platinum Members! Joshua Drummond Maureen Munoz Amber Freeman Nicolle Benz Zach Mills Adam Dougherty Desiree Nichols Kate Logan Kent Denmark Michelle Watkins Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Just like a little shift pattern and it just stopped shut off and I'm saying like this is like a distance of a star And it turned back on and it was like a reddish orange And from the distance where it was to where we're at I mean we're pretty far we saw that it was getting much much larger really quick So it got from the distance of a star to over directly above us within like maybe 20, 30 seconds. And as it's coming, my youngest brother goes and jumps in the truck and tells us to all get in.

So I'm running and jumping in. My two brothers jumped in and we're driving off. My brother, he's got a pretty big truck, and we're driving it pretty crazy, and there's a lot of drop-offs. And we are looking around and we don't see it, so we completely stop. And we open up the sunroof, and it's directly above us, maybe 150 feet, and it is massive. I mean, I want to say it's about a size of a bus, if not larger,

On the front, it had a light bar that was orange that was hyper flashing from left to right, going faster and faster and faster. But then I noticed it was just the front and then it had lights on the outside edges of it that were white facing down. They were slowly going back and forth. So you could see what the width of it was. So it was probably, man, 30, 40 feet wide, dead silent, but it had a vibration to it. Like you could feel it like in your chest. feel it like in your chest.

The history of our earth is so different from what we can imagine. The Smithsonian, that if they found out about a large skeleton somewhere, was to go get it. I'm going to assume at least one person is right, because if one person's right, it bust the paradigm, it all goes back to the fallen chair. And the problem with the modern day church, they have a very truncated view of the supernatural. This backdrop that's just pregnant with all kinds of. meaning associated with this Mount Herman event. And this guy defects from the kingdom.

That's a big deal. It's 2025. We've been doing this podcast for five years. Happy New Year. We started this podcast in 2020. Here we are. 2025. We've been humming along.

We have a new brand new studio. And coming in 2025 is full video podcast. We're going out of the audio show into the deluxe version of blurry creatures. video audio. So if you want to watch us on YouTube, next week will be a full video show. So thank you guys for taking this blurry bus from just a couple guys asking questions in the basement to an hour full studio. And we have you guys to thank all the members, people who pile on every month and support the podcast and share the show around. Big part of our show is just text messages, people texting our shows to friends. So thank you. Five years of blurriness. We have a really wild story for you to kick off the new year.

Yeah, I'm just grateful. And it's great to be with you, Nate, doing another year of this. We're thankful for this community that's come around us. And just for another year to do this, you said, we're going full video. So this would be a fun. It's going to be 88 miles an hour out the gate here. And today's a fun one. As you know, if you listen to the show, a lot of times we talk about, we talk with academics, with professors, with doctors, with experts that written books and created films and content around their thesis, their 10,000 hours, their expertise. In some ways, we're the low brow to the high brow discussion, right? And, but everyone's in a while we get these really really amazing stories that seem to break the paradigm and and these are the stories that that we'll share every once in a while on our main feed and this is one of those today Cody had the courage to share it's his story it has every element of blurry from UFO encounters to possessions to deliverance and it all happened very recently so this is a wild one buckle up 2025 we're going we're going full speed that's right if you want to become a member and help support the show and send us a story the membership is how this podcast really keeps going and so many people support what we're doing you can go to blurry creatures.com slash members get access to tickets

we have some tickets available to Costa Rica right now that's happening in six weeks so if you guys want to get access to those and you get ad free experience discounts on merch and just a community access to the community here at blurry creatures in which a lot of people like enjoy and can talk to other blurry members so thank you guys so much for doing what you do to keep this this podcast going and let's get let's get Cody's story going it's got all the elements like like you said Luke and You know, keep it open mind. And once again, you know, people who are new to the podcast, like, we ask people questions,

and we bring them on the show, and we don't necessarily know what to think half the time. And people experience a wide variety of weird, strange things. Take this and think about this. Throw it around it and see how this fits in the paradigm. I mean, we're always talking about we just want to get better answers. And a lot of understanding and trying to make sense of the blurry world is hearing these stories. And putting this in and say, how does this fit? And this is one that's going to bust some paradigms.

So this is a traumatic experience for Cody, and we're just grateful for his courage to share a story. Let's get Cody on this one. Thank you for five great blurry years so far. We're going to keep it going. And we'll see you in the studio starting next week with full video episodes. Stay safe out there. Don't go pointing lasers in the sky.

Don't be flashing lasers at UFOs, guys. Welcome back to Blurray creatures. We got Cody on the show today. Cody, you emailed us. You have a wild UFO story, which is really relevant to what's going on right now. We've got stuff in the air. We've got disclosure happening since 2017.

And everyone's in our channel's always constantly debating what UFOs are, what's going on. And I love this part about our show is that people have a place that they can feel almost like a counseling session where they can sit down and tell the blurry verse what they've been through, what they've experienced. I haven't heard your story. And you and Luke talked on the phone. You had a little bit of an intro and he kind of filled you on what happened. But welcome to blurry creatures. what do your thoughts on Bigfoot and then you can get into your story. That's funny. I definitely, you know, I definitely knew this is going to come.

So they're thinking about it, you know, because I thought in a whole different way before my experience. And it kind of changed my way of thinking. I think it's some type of hybrid and there's a little more human to it than what I think we really realize. I feel the human soul is a little more unique than what we realize as well. So let's just say I believe it's a hybrid and a little more human than what we think. Let's put it that way. That's a pretty good assessment. I think what's interesting about you saying that, Cody, is that when we've talked to a bunch of folks on here,

but when you talk to folks that have seen it, especially hunters, and put it in the scope and sort of lined it up for a shot, some guys can't pull the trigger because it feels the face or what, itself feels too human. It's almost like you're lining up a human being, right? So, I mean, it's interesting insight. You know, who knows at this point? That's why we ask everybody. Everybody's got different ideas.

But the idea that- Everyone's got a wild uncle, and Bigfoot just feels like family. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, unless you're an ape canyon, unless you're in ape canyon, and he's trying to tear your house apart. Well, some people don't like their family.

Maybe someone's families are like that. Who knows? We just got through Thanksgiving and we're heading into the holidays here. So maybe big place is that. crazy uncle. Get into your story. Tell us how it happens.

I don't know anything about it. Let me preface this real quick, too, because, Cody, you're a member of the show. And the way that we found you is that you started telling a bit of your story in our member space. And it was so interesting and compelling because your encounter and you're getting into, it happened to you and your brother. So it wasn't just a singular thing where it was just you. That always leads credence.

It's like when two guys are hunting together or, you know, more than one person have an encounter with something weird. It's not just like someone's having an hallucination. All the things people like to do when they want to sort of, not just credit, but maybe disenfranchise someone's story, but this is something that happened to you and your brothers. We're going to let you go. We want to hear a story.

You know the show. We'll ask you some questions if we have them. But this is such a unique and wild story. I appreciate you having the courage to tell us. We always talk about on our show. People have a lot of traumatic things that happen to them in sort of the fringe and unknown space, whether it be, you know, encounters with entities, Bigfoot, UFOs, whatever it is. It takes a lot of courage to come on and share your story.

But, you know, inevitably, these stories that we hear resonate with folks because guaranteed someone out there, Cody, is a similar experience in a similar encounter, and you're going to help them tell their stories. So with that said, give us the background. I know you're a guy from Wyoming, and this story sort of begins there. So take tickets to that day when this began. Yeah, for sure. So I am personally from actually Mesa, Arizona.

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my entire life. It's gotten much better over time. I am a retired, actually, military corpsman. I was in the Navy for a while and has seen a lot of things. And I helped a lot of people that had different levels of trauma. So I know what to look for in my case. This is my story, basically, of my experience from my perspective. That being said, that's my intro. So my younger brother is a avid hunter. He actually lives up in Wyoming. And I just needed a break. And I wanted to go up and go hunting with them. Really, you know, push the backwoods a lot. And it was just him and I was going to be the plan and our two other brothers end up coming on, well, one of them. And we've never, ever done this before. I'll put it that way. And some of us are definitely

not fit to be hiking in the background. Me and my younger brother, we really want to push it hard. And I have my younger brother, he's like, I know, 6-2, 6-3, probably 350 pounds. And we're hiking up at 10,000 feet elevation. So we were joking the whole time of like, man, you know, the Sasquatcher, you know, it's going to be you. It's so hard to me get into the story because it's so fresh. So this happened, I need to tell. This happened eight weeks ago this past Saturday. So this is really fresh to me still.

Wow. So I got up there on a Sunday. We had flown up there, me and my other brother who actually lives here. I have another brother who lives in Idaho. And we all met there, got all set up camp. It's a little bit southeast of actually Yellowstone. It's over in the river actual mountain range. So I know that has some history to it too.

And there's just rivers or there's just lakes, probably 50 plus lakes within like a 15, 20 minute drive. They're everywhere up there. So before I got there, I told my brothers, I'm going to bring a actual laser pointer with me because I've seen that you can point lasers at the satellites and they'll flash back and they'll shut off. It's been a tradition with me and my younger kids here in Mesa that we go up on the roof and

watch out of all the satellites and, you know, and the space station, you know, it's just stuff they absolutely love to do. So I was up there and share that moment with my brothers. And we knew that the comet was going to be flying over that night as well. So we got out there and we saw the comet and I just had this point just to think of, God, like, show us your power. Like, help my brothers. you become believers of your creation, basically, and make this a memorable moment for us.

You know, and Boyd did the answer. So we were watching these satellites for a while, and I was using the laser pointer and shiny at them. But then we noticed some other ones that weren't acting as satellites. They were kind of coming from our left and going up and going into a star, what it looked like. They're a distance of a star. So from our perspective, it looked like a actual orb. going from the side up to the star, and it would just basically disappear.

So I started hyperflashing on those, those ords you want to say, going into the star, and all of a sudden, one dropped out, and it turned green, and it kind of rolled back and forth as if it's, like, in a bowl,

just like a little shift pattern, and it just stopped, shut off. And I'm saying, like, this is like a distance of a star, and it turned back on, and it was like a reddish orange. And from the distance where it was to where we were,

at, I mean, we're pretty far. We saw that it was getting much, much larger, really quick. So it got from the discipline star to over directly above us within like maybe 20, 30 seconds. And as it's coming, my youngest brother goes

and jumps in the truck and tells us to all get in. And the whole thing I'm thinking of like the story of actually Travis Walton, of the fire in the sky. And I'm like, every, like, everybody needs to get in the truck like right now. So I'm running and jumping in, and my two brothers jump in, and we're driving off. And my brother,

he's got a pretty big truck. And we're driving it pretty crazy. And there's a lot of drop-offs. You're all in the same truck. Yes, correct. Okay. And we're, and we are looking around, and we don't see it, so we completely stop. And we open up the sunroof, and it's directly above us, maybe 150 feet, and it is massive. I mean, I want to say it's about a size of a bus, if not larger. on the front it had a light bar that was orange that was hyper flashing from left to right and it was kind of like what's that car off the 80 show um um my writer it's kit yes yes yes so like yeah yeah so it was hyper flashing from left to right going faster and faster and faster i've seen those videos they almost look like uh lights on like an air strip like they're kind of going

in sequence. I've seen a lot of videos like that. Okay, yeah. Correct, but this thing was just massive. But it was going left to right. Dead silence. Yes, it was going to left the right and it was slow. Like, as it was coming to us, we could see it and it looked like it was actually rotating around. But that I noticed it was just the front.

And then it had lights on the outside edge of it that were white facing down. They were slowly going back and forth. And so you could see what the width of it was. So it was probably, man, 30, 40 feet wide and dead silent, but it had a vibration to it. Like you could feel it like in your chest.

Like a hum? Was there any noise to it? No, absolutely no noise, just the vibration you could feel. Wow. So as we see it above us, we're like, okay, go. So we're just laughing and we're scared at the same time. And my brother's trying to call his wife on the phone, but there's not really good reception and and she keeps hanging up because she's sleeping right so we're just laughing about it

and you're driving away right you're yes we're driving fast we're driving really quick okay and you're kind of like mixed emotions oh 100 percent we're laughing we're scared uh we're laughing because my sister-in-law is not taking up the phone it's like she is the worst person to call in this emergency situation so um so we end up getting down to the bottom of the hill and we go into a store. And this happened at about 10.30 at night is when this happened. Is when we saw the UFO. We got down to the bottom, to the city down below and went into a store.

We just had a laugh because this was right around the Halloween time, right? And we go into the store and they're playing the Twilight Zone song. We just laugh like, what of the chances of that? It was just so funny. But then we realized, you know, crap, like we left our guns. We left our wallets. We left our phones all around the campfire. And like, we have to get back up there.

And the same time is we need to get this on video. This is so dumb, we didn't get this on video. Like, no one's going to believe us. So we rushed back up there and everything was the same that it was. But there had been a car that had pulled up when we were gone that had parked next to my brother's trailer. So I forgot to say, so me and my youngest brother were in one trailer, and my older brother and my other younger brother were in a separate trailer. I had to say that because something else in the story happens. So we get back to the campsite.

We see that there's another car there. So we're wondering if these people had seen it, we had gotten back and it was gone. So at about 1.30 in the morning, we had basically gone to bed. a black SUV had shown up, and it had light bars across the top. And it pulled up next to my brother's trailer, lit up the whole campsite, and my brother opened up his shades, and was looking at the vehicle. And on the license plate, they were black and white plates, and it just said, exempt on it. And the person got out, nice dress, got out, and went to go talk to the car next to him.

So my brother closed the shades, thinking that he was going to come and speak to him. So he was kind of scared, like, crap, like this is the government. like we're going to get in trouble for shining a laser pointer or whatever it was. Well, the truck left, but the car left with it. So we didn't hear about this until that morning. At 8 3rd the morning, another black SUV showed up, a different one that had the same plates, and me and my younger brother had seen it, and we noticed the plates, and we're just laughing like, holy crap, like, it's a government vehicle, but it's nothing from around

here because my brother's from that area, and he said, we don't like, like, we absolutely do not have any vehicles like that. So we get out and we start talking to my other brothers and that's when he told us about the other SUV. So it kind of freaked us out a little bit. Like, man, I think we're playing with fire here. We should kind of, you know, take it easy. So we decided to go on a hike to go to this other area that we were planning on hunting

and we were going to go fishing down there. It was a very difficult hike for some of us. So we split up. Cody, real quick, though. So you guys have this whole experience all day and you wake up and then there's a, you know, what sounds like. like men in black. You guys have had this really crazy, huge UFO experience. I mean, do you guys talk about this at all? Or you're just kind of like, we're going to go fishing today.

We were more joking around about it of we need to take the laser pointer again and shine it so we can get it on video because no one's going to believe us. Right, right. Yeah. Was anyone in your group skeptical of what happened? Like, that's... You know, what are you guys saying? What are you guys like, hey, we saw a UFO or hey, that was like, was that a government thing? Or do you guys have any kind of discussions like that or is it just kind of like, man, that was weird? A little bit of both. I would say at first or after we had discussed about it while we were hiking, we discussed that we felt like it was a government, that it was a government drone that we just don't

know that technology. And it's literally out in the middle of nowhere. I mean, Wyoming, I think the population's like a little bit over $500,000 for the whole entire state and the federal government owns most of the land there. So if there's any word testing, it's going to be there. And I was explaining my brothers of out of all the places to have these drones, it would be near these lakes. That there's the actual military bases that are underwater. I can't even think of the name of it right now.

Yeah, well, where they were they talking about? They sort of hypothesized the U.S.os, the UFOs that come out of the water, right? Correct. Identified submersible objects, yeah. Correct. So I was talking to. You're a Navy man. Yes.

You're Navy, man. I'm sure you saw some weird stuff. 100%. I could say yes. There's some pretty crazy stuff, but nothing like this. Like, nothing that I've seen like this. So we, so this is the part that gets a little bit darker. We end up going down for this hike down to this lake that we stay there for a while.

We didn't see much of any wildlife. So it was going to be getting dark soon. So we started hucking it back while my two other brothers wanted to stay on the trail. So me and my younger brother, the one that, that had the hunting permit, chose to go off on a different path, off the path. And we knew we were going to be hiking in the dark. And so we had our satellite phone. You know, we had the walkie-talkies.

We knew we were going to be able to keep in contact with them. But we got to this area that just felt different. It didn't feel right. We're hiking along, and all of a sudden, I hear my name off into the woodline, my name specifically. and it's not a voice that I recognize. And it was terrifying. But it was the feeling that came with it.

And my younger brother stopped, and he never heard it, but he felt something was wrong. And he saw me stop and asked me, is everything okay? I'm like, I literally just heard my name off to the right. And he's like, I feel like we're not supposed to be here either.

Let's hurry up and get out here. So we start huffing it out. And it was a really eerie, creepy feeling. that whole hike back as if we were being followed the entire time. Well, we get back to the camp. It is dark. We tell my other brothers about what had happened. And, you know, they felt kind of odd as well. Well, I end up going down to the edge, this area that I knew where I could get some phone of reception, I could call home. And I called my wife and talking to her a little bit about it. And I hang up the phone and I hear my name again down just right below the ridge, maybe 20, 30 feet below me.

Does it sound like, Cody, is it like a human voice? Oh, 100%. Okay. It's like it's a human voice, but it's nothing that I recognize. And I knew that my brothers were backed by the campfire. I knew that it couldn't be them, but I'm not going to answer back to this voice, 100%. Totally, this is audible. Like you're hearing this audibly, not like, yeah, 100%.

Because I was going to say, like, you know, people talk about hearing stuff in their head from like a big foot. Yeah, but this is an audible voice saying, And Cody, from somewhere where there's nobody there, like, that you know, the people you know, okay. Does it sound robotic? No, no, it doesn't sound a robotic because it sounds like another man's voice. But it's just a deeper, very clear. But it's the same voice that I heard out in that field, the exact same thing. So I'm walking back to the camp and I see that there's a fourth person at the campsite.

And I'm standing back and watching and I'm taking some photos and I get back and there's no one else there that was just the three of them. And I'm pulling up on my phone and over the top of the fire, I show all my photo that there is a fourth person there. And it's terrifying. It is absolutely terrifying. And I get up to my brothers and I'm like, you guys will believe this, but like, you know, look what I just showed or like look what I just saw. And so we're trying to look around to see if we can reenact it or see if there's anything that similar that can make that figure. So we're looking at the tree behind it. And the only thing we can come up with is either it's the smoke making that shape or there was something there at that moment.

For me personally, I felt something very dark and demonic that was with us at that time. And it stayed with us that entire trip. So we were there for two nights. We chose not to do the laser pen anymore because I feel like we were just playing with fire, something that we're not supposed to be playing with. We chose to go back to my brother's house and do more of trails, like riding in the side by side and in the truck. Everything went good that entire week until Saturday. Saturday was going to be like our last night hunting.

We ended up getting my actual nephew to come up from Idaho to come hunting with us, and he was able to actually get a tag as well. we knew we're a very large herd of elk were going to be at. So we got to this area that was very, very difficult to get to, and my two other brothers stayed on the other ridge line scoping for us to tell us where the herd was going to be at. We were there throughout the day, didn't see a whole lot of stuff, but at night we saw the herd coming back in,

but the area where they were at, we weren't going to be able to shoot them at, and there wasn't going to be enough daylight left. So we chose to try to come back the following morning, Sunday morning. But on the hike back, we were talking to my nephew about the whole UFO, and he didn't really believe us, I felt, until we look over. I'm not going to say that it's the UFO, but it was more of like an orb that was at the distance of the star once again. But this one was different. It was moving very erratically.

and from the distance, it's going thousands of feet within a matter of half a second. And it's just doing like a very odd pattern over and over and over. And I'm watching it, and I'm just getting a headache. Like it's an instant headache. I didn't have a headache like that the entire time. And I just tell them, they're like, you know what? Let's start heading back to the truck. Like, you know, I'm just not feeling very comfortable.

And my nephew was like, holy crap. Like, I thought you guys were just joking. you know so it was nice for him to be able to see it but i felt this sense of danger of like you know we need to get going so we're heading back to the truck and there's another one over on the opposite side of the field so there's two of them that are doing the same pattern back and forth and again these are different looking than the the craft the first night right these are or they look the same so i would say that well remember how i said at the beginning of how it would go up into a star and then disappear.

So when it's at that distance, it looks like an orb. To me, it looked like a satellite, but it doesn't behave like a satellite. But then when that one dropped down and turned green and then went red to that reddish orange that was over us, I feel like it was the same ships,

but at the distance, those stayed out there because I wasn't shining a laser pointer on. Far away. It looks like an orb because it's so far away. I've had this similar experience. I think when the things that I've seen, when I was in Sedona. It sounds very similar.

So I continue, I just want to make sure, like, you think it's the same thing, right? At this point, or you think... 100%. Yeah, okay. 100%. But my mind, like, I ended getting this migraine and this darkness that we need to get to the truck and get back to the house. So we hurry up and rush back to the house. And I get there, drink a bunch of water, drink some more electrolytes, sitting on the back porch

and just trying to relax. And I see another one over the ridge line. off the back porch of this house. Like, there's more than what I realized. And they're all in this area. And they're following you at this point. And they're following me 100%. So at this point, like, at this point,

when before you, because you're, I mean, obviously we're weeks away, but do you, are you associating like hearing your name, seeing something by the fire, having experienced that before, and then this today, are you associating this all with the same thing? Are you just like, man, this is like, I'm in the next episode of, you know, of the X-Files or, you know, know, the twilight zone. What's your thought process going?

I mean, it's terrifying, right? First and four hours. 100%. Well, especially what comes next. He makes it even worse. I want to say that I wish they worked together. But I can't deny from the beginning of how I felt to how it ended, that they're not connected.

I go back in the house and I tell my brothers what I just seen. And they come out and they're looking like, that is just absolutely crazy. you should hit it with the laser pen again. I'm like, I just can't do that, man. You know, because this is your house. I don't want to bring what I'm feeling to your home. But I'm not saying this to them because I don't want to scare them. And I don't want to sound like I'm crazy,

but I'm overreacting and making this fun moment for our brothers into something else. I go back in the house and I take some medicine for actually my headache and drink some more water. And I saw my brother, I'm going to go upstairs and just go way down and sleep. and just sleep this off. But just this darkness kept on coming harder and harder and harder. And I came down and told my brother, like, can you please hide all the guns? I don't feel right.

Like, I feel like there's other things with us. And for all of our safety, I think we should put away the guns. And he said, I actually already put them all away. And there's no access to him. Cody, so at this point, are your brothers are there as well. They can see that something's not right with you as well, right? Because, I mean, obviously, he's putting the guns away, though, like, something's happened to Cody. We need to be sort of cautious.

And making sort of the same connection, they're like, whatever has happened in the last 24, 48 hours is making our brother act different or seem different? Or are they seen the same thing in the sense that you are? Honestly, I don't. Like, ever since this whole incident, I haven't talked to my brothers very much except for my one brother that witnessed what had happened the most. I talked to my other brothers a little bit. One of them doesn't want to talk about it because he feels that it's something very evil and he feels safe not talking about it.

My other younger brother, they're opening up to it wanting to talk more about it because my experience is I had a lot more answers for them. It's so fresh right now in the due time, I'm going to be able to answer more of their questions. But my youngest brother, that's the one that I'm really, I'm trying to help out the most

because there was stuff that he witnessed. So let me get him. up to what happened into the room is I go back upstairs and I'm laying down and I'm just feeling this sense of just dread and sadness and I'm in danger the entire time. And it's hard because like whenever I talk about it, like it brings up like the memory is really fresh and and there's consequences to it. So, but I know that I really need to tell my story because it can really help other people's or it can really help other people. Not only that have been to similar situations, but it's going to help families as well. So I'm going to get right to it.

Yeah. My brother had come in the room and was asking if I was okay and I told him, no, like something is wrong with me. I feel that there's something else with me. And I don't know how to explain it. I don't know how to acknowledge it, but something's talking to me. And it's no one that I know. And it's telling me things that I don't want to believe. Do you feel like the laser pointer is the catalyst of all of this? Like if you didn't have that, maybe this wouldn't have happened? Yeah, I've thought about that of what directed, of, you know, there's a part of me that think of the actual military end of it. They bring this drone and they're like, watch what we can do.

Like, we're going to absolutely terr terrify these guys and they're going to get it all on video at the actual next morning at their briefing. You know, they're going to show our video as like a joke. So that was our little joke about the laser pointer and if it was a military craft. But yeah, that's the answer to the laser pointer. I do believe that it directed exactly what happened from then on directly to more to me, more than anything. So I'll get back up to the room. Yeah. Let me ask you if you're comfortable with this.

Like you say you're hearing things. What are you hearing if you would like to share, if you want to share? Because you're saying this thing's talking, whatever it is is talking to you. So much so that you want to put the guns away, right? So, yeah. So they're telling me that they got all my brothers there for a reason, not only my brothers, but my nephew as well. This is our whole genetic line, except for my two sons. And it wanted me to give it the ability to just use me for a short amount of time. Yeah. And told me of just the powers that I would be able to have, the powers that my genetic line would be able to have. the powers that my genetic line would be able to have through it.

And, uh, wild. It showed me the abilities that it, uh, that it was capable of. Like what? I don't want to talk too much about it because there's really bad conscious ones once I do start recognizing it. Okay. Um, they're more powerful than what we are led to believe. And I know that because what happened later?

Angels, aliens. When you say they, what do you? Both, both. Okay. Both angels. demons. So I was having a conversation with it and my brother was in the room with me. He could hear some of the stuff that I was talking about and I just kept on saying no, no, no, no. And it just told me to start saying bye to my wife and kids and I have five kids

and started just having a conversation with my wife and telling her like it's going to be okay. you know, and got all the way down to my youngest daughter. And all of a sudden, I just felt this just stop. Like, Cody, stop. You're giving it permission. And I just stopped. And I realized what was really going on. And I was fighting it.

I was fighting a lot. I was fighting it a lot. And it was telling me to tell my brother specific things that he'd done in his life, to scare him to have him, leave the room. And at the same time, I'm hearing of like, Odie, you need to stay. If he leaves or if you leave, you're never coming back, basically. And I know that some of the members have talked about how demons can't read our thoughts. I'm telling you right now that they can. I was reading my brother's thoughts and I was reading the thoughts of other family members within

the home and things that that they had done that would absolutely terrified them, that everybody needed to leave at that moment. But I knew that my brother was there for a reason and that he was going to help me get through this. You want to say, well, when I made the decision not to leave, because my brother kept saying of like, let's go get in the truck and go for a drive. And I just kept telling him like, no, we cannot leave. If we leave, I'm never going to come back. I think they're going to take you. Yes. Either they're going to take me or something is going to answer me. This is the safe, like this is where, like this is where this battle has to go down is right

here in this room. So when I made the decision not to let them in, because I said it before, but turns out there were two. So when I made the decision not to leave or not to let them in, that not them possess me, I became under attack to a whole other level. And it was extremely, it was scary. like I can't put into words but my soul

like I don't know the right terminology how to say it my spirit my soul left my body at that moment and went into the top corner of the room and I was looking down at my body and I could see my brother on the right hand side of me and when it happened my body started to arch

off the bed you know you you think of a of a possession of you know, rising off the bed and contortioning as we see in the movies. It was nothing like that. It was more of like going into like a convulsion and my whole body started arched that basically just my legs and my arms are resting on the bed itself. And at that moment, my brother jumped from the couch that was next to the bed and

wrapped his arms and his legs around me and just telling me to hold on. And when he did that, like his body, body began to glow. Like, it was like this white hue, but almost like a greenish tint to it. And I could see it from his, like, from his core of his body up to his head, just kind of wrapped around me and just telling me to hold on and telling me to give it to him over and over and over. And I'm like up in the corner of like, no, no, like do not give them permission. And also I'm looking at my body. And it's almost like looking at my body. And it's almost like looking at looking. through like a water bottle. It looks like a waterous wave. You're looking on the top of the waves. There's as actual like the actual ripples on it, right? And it's this rayish hint that I can

see my, so I can see my body down below, but my body is basically encased in just this darkness. And my brothers latched around that darkness reaching through and holding on to me that entire time. And I'm praying to God. I'm praying to God up in the corner. Like, please help me and please help my brother. Like, we can't do this alone. Like, God, like in the name of Jesus Christ, like, help me. And right then on my left hand side, three beings came in that I would just describe them as angels, right? And they were just bodies of like. But I could, see what they were wearing. I couldn't see their facial features. I just saw the outline of them all merged together. And they were the same color as what my brother was that was wrapped around me. And they spoke to me. And they just told me of, Cody, we are here for you. You, you prayed to God and we are the ones that he sent. And they're like, Cody, we know you. We love you. So when my soul had exited, my soul. My soul or my thinking merged with one of those demons.

And I saw things that I just can't explain. And I saw its life. I saw the abilities that they have. I saw like how old it was or like what it had done. I wouldn't say on how old it was, but basically like the sins that it had committed. The plan of what their abilities of how easy it is to manipulate people, how it easy it is to get permission to enter people nowadays.

It's not like the biblical times of, it was easier to make decisions back then and what it is compared to now. It's so easy now for them to enter just through a cell phone, bringing things into your home that we just do not realize carries evil with it. And the thing is, there's more people that have demons inside of them

that we realize they need a body, they need a host that they can be in there for a very long time, not just one of multiple, that they need a body that until recognized, they enjoy staying there. And until recognized, we say in the name of Jesus Christ, that they be excised out of us, you know, it may not take one time,

it may not take two times, may take a lot. but we have so many things in our life now that that gives them permission that we don't realize it's not a yes or no it's a swipe up swipe right it's a swipe left there's a whole lot more a whole lot more to it but um i don't want to focus in on that i don't want to focus on the part because uh the part that i shared like i haven't shared the story to many people but when i start talking about some of the plans there's severe repercussions from it i don't want to give it, the energy and the focus that it wants, you want to say.

So when these angels, as you describe them, show up and you're out, you're still having this, like, sort of out of body, you're in the astral, wherever we, you know, we talked a lot on a show about, like, and so with the idea of the silver cord and your spirit being outside your body, do you get back, do they help you get back in? Or what happens from that point on? Yeah. Yeah, it's, it's amazing how it works. they basically told me of like, Cody, the human mind can't comprehend of what you witnessed.

We rules were not followed. There are very specific rules that have to be followed, not only with demons, but with angels as well. Is that those two demons that had just had just entered me did not have permission. They broke the rules. And that's why these specific angels actually can. came down. They said that I can choose to come with them

or I could go back to my body, but it was going to be very difficult. It's going to be very painful, but they're here to protect me, to help guide me on this process. Do you think at that point that means you're going to die? Is that what their

implication there? Yeah. Yeah. And there was going to be consequences that if I died. But they were there to protect everyone there that was within the home. But they said, when you come back to your body, it's going to hurt. It's going to be painful. You are still going to feel them inside you, but we want to show you something. So I chose to go back and instantly, I came back and I looked over at my brother and I said, it's going to be okay. It's going to be okay. We have others with us now that they're here to basically protect us. And we go downstairs and

it's me, my younger brother and his wife, and we're walking back. Like, I'm just tasting back and forth. I'm just saying, like, just keep it in the box, keep it in the box. But I could feel them inside me, and it was extriciating pain. And, but I could feel, the thing is that I couldn't see the angels anymore, but I could hear them. And I was able to ask very specific questions and get answers right away of, like, why is this happening?

you know, and why do they have this capability to do what they did? And they just explained to me of like, the end times are coming. And they're being cornered that they're not going to be playing by the rules anymore. But there's consequences to it. And they want to show me on how powerful family really is. So as I'm sitting there asking questions, like I was asking questions not only for me, but for my wife and my children of things that we've been really struggling with, that I got such clarity that it can only be directly from God.

Like I felt just a whole sense of peace. And also my brother and my sister-in-law, they said, Cody, like, this is not only for you, but this is for them as well. Let them ask questions. But there's only certain questions that they were allowed to ask. It was very interesting. And guys are asking questions, they would tell. me, like, it's not yet their time to, like, receive these answers because it could cause a

mind to fracture, you want to say. And also, only that is, even questions that I was asking, it was like, Cody, you have to rephrase the question. It's very direct questions. It's not like that. Why are we here on earth? You know, it's just very specific questions. Well, this lasted for maybe about a half an hour, and they just said, Cody, stop. You need to go outside. So I go outside, and my younger brother comes out with, and I tell him to stay up on the porch, and they tell me of just go and kneel in the grass, dig your fingers into the ground,

and visualize that light. Visualized that light that you had seen upstairs between us and your brother. And I'm in the medical field, so it was very interesting, because I didn't understand on what they exactly wanted me to do, but they were showing me basically these images, just dumbing it down for me that I could understand specifically what to do.

So they said, like, as if you're taking a syringe, you go from your head through your body and push out all that darkness. That darkness are those demons that are within you. Push them down from your head all the way to your feet, to your knees, to your hands, and push them down so they're no more. And then you kneel up and you take your right hand, and you take it from your left, and you grab all the chains, all the cords, all the ropes that have been attached to you,

and you take your left hand as if it's a sword, and you sever those cords, those minds, you stand up and you throw those on the ground. You wipe your hands, you wipe your feet, you turn around, and you do not look back. And what they explain to me is what happens is not only with demons, but with angels that do not follow the rules.

You're putting them in, basically, into a prison, into God's creation, into earth, into the ground, that for later judgment. And they were telling me, like, this happens everywhere. It's just, I was just able to witness it. And basically to share my story on the power of not only God, but as the power is family. This is the part that, like, I really need to share. Because ever since that experience, well, first of all, after that has left, it was like, a whole sense of peace that I've had ever since then, that I truly feel that those demons had truly left. I've never felt like this in my life. I feel closer to God now than what I ever have. Well, I have a question. So, you know, there's like multiple things happening here. You have

orbs that look like UFOs. You have a UFO come. Then you have what sounds more like a demonic possession. Like, how are all these things connected, do you think? Do you feel like, does the UFO give the demons permission. Because we're always trying to figure out, like, who's flying the side are they on, you know? And why do they need a machine if they can do all this magical stuff? You know, it's like, it's strange. Why even are there lights on these things, you know? So many questions that it seems like they're different, you're experiencing different phenomenon.

Like something gave something else permission to come after you, almost like. like a lieutenant told the soldiers on the ground, go get this guy, you know. It doesn't sound like whatever was in the UFO is also doing the same thing to you. When it comes to the UFO end of it in the tie, you know, we think about the actual Nazis, how traded knowledge, right? And that's when a lot of these UFOs started coming out and people started truly seeing them like all around the world. When you trade knowledge from something dark like that, there's going to be a tight. to it. And we think of our government, you know, here in the United States, and we think about the

dark end of it. For me in the military, you know, I don't want to think that there's other governments that are being ran, but at the same time is you can't deny it. Other things are actually the ferrous going on that the world is starting to see they can no longer hide it anymore. And there's, you know, I'm trying to put my mind together what this could be of, you know, in the movie the actual Kingsman, right? How there's that church that they send out a frequency within the church and everybody just starts going crazy on one another and basically kill one another off, right? When this whole experience, I thought of that moment and I thought about also back in Vietnam how the government was running these frequencies in these certain villages. and causing chaos as well. That's the part that terrifies me.

And especially now since all these drones and UFOs that people are seeing back east, there's a part of me. I'm like, I really hope I'm not right of what I'm thinking. You know, and putting people into submission and just fear, right? That they can create a emergency that we can't recognize,

but then they'll have the solution for it. That makes sense? What's so? Yeah, 100%. create the problem, provide the solution. That's always to the detriment of the people. Yeah. So that's a part in my mind is maybe there are UFOs, like true UFOs that are out there.

And the government is sending out other drones or other similar things that look like UFOs to basically whitewash of what's really going on that it's so easy for them to say like, oh, like it was just drones. Yes, the actual red herring situation. the red herring analogy. Yeah, we always say like all the above's kind of going on. It's like there could be some sort of military. I always think looking at like 3D or 40, you know, you have, in the 3D you have countries fighting China, Iran, all these countries that are doing nefarious things.

But are those countries, somebody in those countries loyal, did they make a deal with the devil in the fourth dimension? And what are they able to do? That's why these government people are showing up to this specific site where you're at. It's like somebody did a Faustian deal with these guys. Because why else would they be there? Why is the government showing up to a campsite in the middle of Wyoming? And then you have this UFO experience.

Somebody's doing a deal somewhere. That's how I look at it. They're all connected. But there's different entities. There's humans. There's UFOs. There's aliens, angels, whatever. It's like what, that's why your story is such a wild, wild ride.

Oh, 100%. And, I mean, you're probably more confused after you tell it a couple of times. It's very interesting because what was nice or what helped me was that those angels stayed with me for about probably two weeks and really helped guide me and direct me and give me a sense of peace. What do you mean by stay with you? Like, are they, you see them? Other people see them? Are they talking to you audibly? or is it all in your, how does that look?

I would say that it's more all in my head of just, you know, people try to describe of how God speaks to us, right? It's very interesting. I never imagined it, you know, on how it truly felt. I'm reading in the Bible of just when Moses and all these other prophets were hearing from God. Some actually saw him visually, but they were actually transfigured or actually transformed to see him.

But at the same time, as they would have angels come down and speak with them in person. But then there were others that had these thoughts and these direction of, and as I'm being told, like, this is how God works, is he speaks to you through your heart. Like, you know, we have those lessons in our lives growing up of this room full of chaos and all these voices, and you can hear that one in all the chaos. And you're following that one.

That's exactly how it feels. And you learn to recognize it because you know the feeling is just pure love. And they're looking out for you. So that being said is I had that connection with them for quite a while, that I was able to acknowledge certain things, that I was really struggling with and I would pray every night, I would fast,

like please help me understand because I still had the memories, I still have those memories of that demon today. It's just something that you can't forget that you just hyper focus on it and you try not to hyper focus on it. You know, and I've had so many blessings over me

from multiple denominations as well. There's so much I want a favor right now There's so much, but I know we're just limited time. Yeah. That I want to share so much information, and it's just, it's pure love and how God's power really travels through us, but especially through family. Family is more important than a lot of people give it credit for. And I don't want to get too controversial on our show, but I think that's why you have a lot

of movements in these spaces to get people from enjoying their family on certain holidays, for example, because, you know, Luke and I are always trying to find answers, and I actually was messaging with Mike at Turnbow anything. I'm like, what do you think is, why is there a lot of attack around? And he said something, he said, and take it for what it is, the demons hate joy, they hate when families get together, they hate when humans are happy. And I don't know, but I bring that up just because it's part of your story, it seems as though when you kept bringing that up and I keep thinking about the messages that I was. I'm trying to understand from like our 500 foot view of a lot of the blurry topics,

but they always sort of seem connected in a strange way. And how do you, I guess one of my last questions is, and I have so many, but how do you, did you feel like you tested the spirits? Did you feel like you actually had a moment where you could really, like, who are you? Where are you from? How do you know the good guys are the good guys and not the good. guys are pretending to be good guys and the bad guys are they're all in on it that's the because humans are so impressionable and we are so vulnerable and like you said we we can receive messages

but we're like a we're like the naive kids. We're like the homeschool kids, yeah. Yeah, we're the homeschool kids. It's funny you say that because all of my kids are homeschooled too. So it's funny like all these like all these books. I don't be that derogatory way. It's different now. Like we were yeah, when we when we, when we, when we,

We were kids. It was like there was, the homeschool kids. It was different. I mean, yeah, different. I don't mean that any guy. I don't know, except just to make a joke. That was a joke. I wouldn't trust much of anything in this space after doing this show.

Whether it's any entity that comes out of the walls or Bigfoot, you know, like Dave, Dave, Brian Pass. I'm going to go hang out with Bigfoot on Mount Chast. I'm like, I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't shine lasers at UFOs. I wouldn't play with the Ou-J board. I just, who knows what you're getting yourself in. You know, I don't know, personally. So answer your question about do I know who these angels were?

This is the part, like with the limited time that we have, I'm going to actually rush a little bit and it's hard to do it. So think your life is like a giant bowl of we're here on Earth as a class, basically. It's not like a true path fail. And think of it from kindergarten up to high school or beyond. There could be someone that is stuck in a frequent. in a learning, they're trying to learn one lesson. They can go their entire life and be stuck in that lower bowl their entire life.

But all of a sudden, so it depends on what you put in. You could put light into that bowl or you could put darkness in that bowl. The more light that you put in that bowl, the more clear that lesson's going to be. That as soon as you take that lesson and you pass it, that moment in your life, that bowl is taken away and put up on a ledge as if it's like a certain, as if it's like a bad, or a lesson learned that you'll always remember it, but it'll never bother anymore. It actually becomes a strength, right?

So you go throughout your entire life, and the ultimate frequency, so this is the part that my understanding is the ultimate frequency is Jesus Christ, right? Through him, you get to God, right? So we're all striving in our life to be more like Jesus Christ, to live that Christ-like life.

and we have relatives that are in our frequency. So when I told you about my brother having that light, that frequency, and those angels coming in and having that same light and that same frequency, they were family that had passed on before me. That were passed on, but before us, that knew me, that knew my brother. And that being said, we have the ability to learn things up in heaven, but it's basically from a class, right, that we don't have the full education

or we don't have the temptations like we do here on earth, correct? So what happens is when we have family members that have experienced maybe similar things or have had that education, they are, when they passed on and they continue that education in heaven, when we call on God, God knows who's the send. We have family members that are literally raising their hand of like, please send me.

I love this person. I know what to do. God knows on how many people he's going to send to us at that moment. This very specific moment that has been predetermined that this is going to be what's going to happen. And they know our language. They know how to speak to us and how we feel. And it was amazing watching that happen from them to my brother. and Cody how does the uh I mean when you think you've seen the light is that is that the

holy spirit in him is it because he's saved okay 100% so I know we're using different vernacular here you talk about frequencies and yeah I mean we can we can sort of mince or parse words I guess because you know like holy spirit spirit and we're talking but so in your mind like these either you were able to tell that these were good we're angels and the good guys yeah I I felt pure, I felt pure love. Pure love. And at one point, you know, that the face said that they were with me for basically two weeks, that when it disconnected, it was just, I had a hard time. When you have that direct connection with God, with others helping you along the way and just protecting you for that moment.

Let me flip this question and ask you something else. After this experience, after you choose to live and choose. and choose to fight on and not give in to the demons of demonic. Do you have warfare come after you? Does this come after you for the... I mean, I remember, I think we talked about

on the phone was like, things got really gnarly for you after... I don't know if you want to talk about that specifics, but I think it's interesting because to me that sounds a lot like some of the stories you've heard on the show, especially when we have like these ex-witches that convert, and then instead of the things, things, you know, the things get exercised and are kicked out, but they doesn't mean they leave

in the sense of they, they hang around to try to, they fight harder, if you will, in a way to get back in or to, or to, if you think of yourself as a vessel, you know, sometimes they, they can hang out on the docks. Yeah, they hang around because they don't want, they're not just letting you go in a sense of like, does that happen to you? I mean, do you, you sit there to have a bunch of pushback because you've, you've essentially kicked them out and said no? Yeah, let's just say this. Since my experience, I've lost 30 pounds. I don't sleep very well. I remember in the Bible verse, I don't know which one it was, but when we have one demon removed from our home, right? We think of home either either with ourselves or with our own home, when one demon leaves and it comes back to enter in your home and it's clean and it knows that it cannot return, it goes back and get seven more more powerful than it. that is an understatement that I can attest to,

that there are things in my life now. There's a part of me that when someone goes to an experience like this, you're never going to be the same. I can't imagine you would be. Yeah, this is a lot of trauma. Yeah. I definitely become a lot more spiritual now. I am through a major repentance process.

Like, deliverance is a whole other level to me. like I am pushing strong and becoming more Christ-like. And I want to search for certain information, but I just want to be careful on what I read. Right now I feel like I'm so susceptible to a lot of dark influences and good influences. Like I feel like there's a true battle for my soul. And I feel a big part of it is because I saw what the plan was.

I could see that. And it's terrifying. And I want to share it, but there's consequences when I, share specific things to it. And I want to say this part that before this interview is over, is parents need to watch their children. Pay attention to what they take back into their rooms.

Pay attention to the influence that are in their lives that are so subtle. The way to people to turn against God, I truly feel is through their children. There's going to be a moment that there is going to be children killing themselves. and it's going to turn parents against God of like, why? Why would this happen to me? We didn't see this happen. That it's going to be, people are going to start recognizing that something's wrong.

Something's not right. Even children that are really ardent to the church, that are not struggling, just overnight, something can shift. That people need to understand that it's not God's doing. We can't blame him for it. There's rules that have to be followed. And our experience here on earth is our decisions. We can't let other people raise our children for us.

We have to know our children. We love our children. We know our children. When I talk about the frequency, right, when I was saying it earlier, there's a bond that is created between a husband and a wife. That we call it like a mother's intuition, right? that a mother can tell when something's wrong with their child, even in a dead sleep, I can attest the event.

It's happened within our home. And there's a power and healing between a husband and wife who they're children. That there's a power between families holding hands and praying together. It's a amplifier that it calls on God and it creates an expanded amplifier in antenna. That there's a lot of religions. they used to do it a lot more, but nowadays that they don't. Like I wanted to share with people of during the holidays, make it like a family tradition that everyone hold hands.

And it doesn't always have to be the father. It doesn't always have to be the mother or the grandparent. Have someone within the family pray that pray for protection, pray for comfort, pray for love, that once people feel that connection with God, that antenna is huge. that once they feel it, that every year, they're going to be like,

who's going to say that prayer? Are we going to hold hands and say that prayer? Us as a family, we never held hands when we prayed. Now every night, our children, they kneel down and put their hands out to hold hands to pray together. Husband and wife should be holding hands and praying together and speaking out loud.

We shouldn't be just speaking in our heads when we pray. Speak out loud. especially during the family prayer and our spousal prayers, that you pray for each individual child, that when they go to bed, they have that in their mind of like, I need to pray for this person.

And we understand, too, is we all have to have faith. But then with faith, there's hope. And with hope, there's charity. That is the pure love of God for all of us. I think it's interesting, too, Cody. Like, what you're talking about is I've actually heard you, we've heard this, not a not on ours necessarily, but there's been interviews with witches.

I'll go back to the witches again, but they talk about when kids are prayed for and they astral project into these kids' bedrooms that when they're prayed for, they can't touch them. They're surrounded by this ring of fires. One of these interviews I watched with an ex-like, a satanic priest witch who basically said that, like, more or less who's been saved out and said,

pray for your kids, pray over your kids. Because in the spiritual realm, in the supernatural, there is an actual. real protection that exists around your kids when you pray for them, that malintentioned people and spirits can't have access. I mean, I would echo with that. I think that's such an important thing. And it's interesting, too, the whole handholding thing is fascinating because I think

a lot of what happened during 2020, and this is a rabbit hole. We're not going to go down, but just want to make a point, the idea of six feet and not having personal contact in particular. There was a very real, and we've talked about this, sort of, sort of in platitudes in the show, there was a very real impact to that of people not having, just on a very basic standpoint,

having touch points or being able to touch or having physical touch with the people they loved. Like there's something about that, that separation, which seems to be a scheme of the darkness to keep people from touching. Nate, you hit it on the head, I think, before. Like, there's, when people are happy,

when people get together with their families, when people spend time together, especially this time of year we talk about around the holidays like that's the last thing the darkness wants they want us isolated

miserable and yeah they'll do anything they can to get us not to do those things whether that's a disease sickness or even your own I think we're so manipulated to think that our own even our own beliefs

can isolate us from people and you know we think we're doing the right thing you think that we have it all figured out I think what you're describing is what a lot of people who can see behind the curtain describe. And I think that's really hard for the average human being. You're describing a very real, colorful kingdom against kingdom. A lot of colors in that painting. And I think people like it black and white.

They don't want any color. It's easier to put inside a box when it's just, it's this and that, and that's it. And, you know, your story has got a lot of color. and weird parts to it. And we don't have any answers any more than anything else, but I think Luke and I have listened to enough stuff over the years to say, everything you're describing isn't so out of the box from other people's experiences and what they've described.

It definitely feels like I wish we could all be in the studio with your brothers and sit down and really unpack the UFO event. I think sometimes we stay there because we can at least ask questions about, like, what did it look like? why are the lights? You know, how big was it? How fast was it moving? You know, real just data-driven questions. But when you experience this, your heart tells you, oh, man, there's a whole other part of this story that has impacted me, but I don't have the ability to put how I feel about this out there for other people to digest and understand. And I appreciate you trying

to do that. I appreciate you being vulnerable with our audience and describing what happened because any one of these experiences could be a whole... Yeah, standalone. Yeah, it could be... Yeah, it could be... Yeah, it's a whole standalone podcast and it's wildly traumatic. And you got the...

It's hard to make sense of it, too. You got a bunch in the same bag, which is just, I mean, it's a testament to, you know, to you sitting here to your courage and to your faith to be able to tell this story because there's a lot of vulnerability here, man, so I just want to reaffirm that. Like, you know, talk about...

Yeah, thank you. Feeling like you're possessed, that you were attacking. and possessed and all these things. I mean, it's, you go from, like, close encounters of the first kind to, or the third kind, to the Exorcist of I'm the Exodus of Ibrilary Rose. You're like, it's like three different movies here, you know, and you're, it's all happening, you know, to a single guy and, you know, just a couple months ago.

So yeah, man, like, I know we're coming to the end of our time here. So I just want to thank you for that. And there's probably a lot, lot more. And maybe as you unpack a lot of this and then, you know, in the coming months, we can, we could at least have another conversation about some of the things. Yeah, it would be interesting if your brothers want to talk about it in the future, maybe we can do like the down and you guys could all describe kind of the, because I just watched fire in the sky two weeks ago.

So Travis Wall of story is a wild one, you know. Yes, it is. And what's funny is the Travis Walton is we have a cabin up in Forest Lakes, which is maybe 30 minutes from actually where that happened at. Wow. So my younger kids have gone into the phone booth on where he called from. So there's an actual mural on the wall of the actual UFO and the phone booth down below it. So we stop by there once in a while.

And that's just a story, us growing up, because the family's from Snowflake. People who don't know listening, Travis Walton is kind of like the Patty Bigfoot film of the UFO abductions, one of the most famous UFO abduction cases where he was gone for like, five days. He's with his buddies. They're all loggers. They see this craft in the woods. They go up to it. They freak out and they drive off. It's very kind of similar to your story where if somebody got out of the truck, who knows what would have happened. Yeah, that's what I was thinking that night. For sure, I was like, you guys better get in. Stay in the car. Well, thanks, but yeah. Thank you for this.

Appreciate that. It's a lot of questions of authority, the rules they have to follow, what they're up to. You know, I'll say anything like the connection between what happened to you and the UFO phenomenon, right? So there's some things very, and this has come up, it's come up in a lot of places, right? I know just some blurry creatures, but the idea that there is this supernatural, spiritual, maybe not spirit in the sense of the craft itself, but like there's this supernatural element to it, right? Because you have this encounter when we have a possession, possession thing. And then those things, the things are, you would think, in a lot of ways, to the secular world live in different camps

if they even acknowledge these things, right? But the connectivity of these two things is really fascinating. And we've talked a lot on the show about, you know, the idea of UFOs sort of unpacking that with a bunch of guests and experts that have ideas around what's going on. But this is a piece of the puzzle, right? And I think, I mean, I think it gave a lot of courage

to reach out to us. Thanks for being a member. Thanks for listening to the show. Thanks for sharing the story. I know that, like, I can watch you here. And our listeners are going to have the opportunity to watch you. But like to see, this is visceral. I mean, you hold your wife's hand at one point during the show

because this is such a hard thing to talk about. It's so traumatic. And your father, too, with kids. Yeah, you have five kids. It's a lot of courage, man. And we're grateful for your time, for your courage and wanting to share your story. Because I think, well, this at the beginning. And people come on and tell their stories.

There's inevitably, it gives permission to people out there listening that have maybe had a similar story to, to talk about it, to not compartmentalize, but to bring that back up and to think about or tell someone about their experience. And that in and of itself is really the first step in people healing or dealing with something dealing with trauma. Because for a lot of us,

and this is the last thing I'll say is when we have trauma, we compartmentalize it, put it away, we don't talk about it, especially men, and we leave it there because it's much easier to leave it on the shelf than it is to deal with whatever happened. So grateful for your courage, and for also reaching out and telling us, sharing your story with us and with our audience.

So it means a lot to us personally. Yeah, Cody. Thank you. Well, thank you for having me. And I definitely want to say thank you for you guys. Like you've helped a lot of us get back on the right path. You know, it started out, you know, just with, you know, bigfoot. And can't imagine where it went through now.

And you're creating God's army, you know, and bringing a lot of people that were really struggling together. And I want to thank you. Like you've definitely changed my life and some others in my life as well. We're grateful that you're part of the community. And yeah, man, thanks so much for this. Appreciate your brother. Yeah, and let us know in the future if we want to unpack that night more specifically with your brothers.

We would definitely be open to it. I know it's like everyone's on their own journey of when they didn't want to talk about things. But I think that would be interesting to kind of, because there's so much disinformation floating around about what this is. and what's happening and how it operates. And I think that I feel sometimes, like, a big part of what we do is try to say, look, no, the abduction phenomenon is happening. These things are physical, and there's something going on here. And when we ride it all off, it indicates a lot of people's experiences like yours.

And then you silently suffer, and we just don't have the right information to make sense of what's going on. So thanks, thanks for coming on. Yeah, a problem. Dude, have a great Christmas, probably. Merry Christmas. Thank you for. And take care of, squeeze those kids, dude. I mean, I think as dad's here, like, I think it's impressive on me, too.

It's just like, man, like, you know, we have a lot to live for in general. It's just how precious are our kids, dude, and how, you know, and how much as dads we want to protect them. And I think that's just part of your story, too, man. And not only protect them, but protect our wives as well, because they're, my wife got hit pretty hard with this too, like just not knowing what to do with me waking up in nightmares of re-endactments in the middle of the night. And it took a toll on her, so I'm always praying and protecting her. And God's protecting her, you know, I was definitely reassured to that.

And I'm grateful, it's hard to say, like, it took a while for me to say this, but I'm grateful for my experience. It's definitely changed me, and I'd be able to help other people in their lives with my experience. And I'm glad that it happened to me and not anyone else that I know. Because this one was a doozy. This one was hard. It was a service, man. Navy. It was a good weekend last weekend for Navy to beat Army.

Pretty good. So, all right, Cody. Yeah, man. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. See you.