Blurry Creatures - EP: 3 Other Cryptids with Brian "Duke" Sullivan

Episode Date: August 22, 2020

Lifelong cryptid researcher Brian "Duke" Sullivan delves into his own encounters with the unknown. Hailing from the big skies of Montana, Brian is a veteran and respected thought leader in the Bigfoot space and the creator and developer of the renowned World Bigfoot Radio. Our discussion with Sullivan wastes no time unpacking years of research and experiences with Bigfoot and taps into Duke's wide-ranging knowledge of lesser known blurry creatures. Did Brian see a malevolent sub-species of Bigfoot as a kid? Is he one of the few to live to tell the tale of seeing this creature? What happens when Bigfoot smiles at you? Listen now. Check out Brian's show https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcMSv6qqwM87zEKsg_ywjOw blurrycreatures.com instagram.com/blurrycreatures facebook.com/blurrycreatures twitter.com/blurrycreatures outro music: timecop1983.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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that describes people who go out into the remote areas and study these creatures. They call themselves researchers. And since we're kind of a new show on Bigfoot, we're just going to throw that out there. You host the show World Bigfoot Radio. You saw your first Sasquatch in 1972, right? Yeah, I had my first cryptid sighting in 72.

As far as I'm concerned, the jury's still out on what it was exactly. Okay. think it's a sub-variety of Bigfoot, but I'm not even sure, so I don't know. Oh, well, you can only imagine if you saw something like that at that age, that would propel you to look into this stuff the rest of your life. And you've been researching this for over 40 years. On your show, you talk Bigfoot, paranormal, strange animals, alternative science, technology, conspiracies. And for some reason, all those things connect.

So I got Luke and I got Duke on the show tonight. Let's do this. All right. All right. So maybe you can talk about that first encounter as a kid and kind of how it set you off into this path of Bigfoot and trying to figure out what it was you saw. That was quite the experience. I was about 10 years old. I was out sledding with one of my other friends.

And we had recently discovered that if we went all the way back to the end of this fire lane that they had cut, that there was kind of a big slew back there that you couldn't get across during the summer. But it looked to us like there was a big steep hill on the fire. side of it. Okay. So we got to the other side and went, well, that was a lot of effort, but there's still, this hill over here looks really steep, so let's go check it out. Trudge, trudge, trudge up the incredibly steep hill. Yeah. It almost looked like they had tried to start making a fire lane on that side at one point and then just decided that it wasn't worth doing and gave up on it because part of it at the bottom was open, but then we thought that was the top of the hill and we got to the top

and it wasn't the top of the hill. There was another hill sitting right back behind it. We decided that since we hadn't actually tried to go down this thing yet. And there's only like two of us there that we would go one at a time. One of us would be about halfway up the hill and watching to make sure the other guy didn't wipe out on the first half of the hill. And then also watching that they made it down to the second half of the hill before they trudged to the top and took their attempt at it. So that's what we were doing.

And the third time I went up to the top. I was standing up there and, you know, you get up to the top and we just had like a little runway over our little plastic sled that we would put. down. As I was turning around to put my sled down, something caught my attention. I, for, you know, my subconscious mind went, hey, something in the scenery changed, you know, and I'm like, wait, what, something looked different. So I look back again and I'm still looking and just about to jump on the sled and go down on the hill. And I turned back and looked again. And this time I could see that what was drawing my attention was, you know, most of the top

of this hill had like hardwoods. It's middle of the winter. There's no leaves on them. Everything's barren denuded looking, except over as I'm facing away from the hill to my right-hand side, there was this huge black spruce tree. And, you know, the first couple of times I had been up there, it only had one trunk, but now it had three. And the other two trunks had hair hanging from them. Gray hair with like little snow dingleberries in it. Oh, damn it.

One of our stupid neighbors found our sledding run already. They're up here spying on us. They're probably going to throw snowballs at us. They got a pair of those funky sunburners. snowmobile-smobiling pants that actually existed back then that had like fake fur on the outside of it. And they're sitting there watching us and they're like, you jerks, you're just going to ruin our awesome sledding hill that we're going to keep all to ourselves. So I figured whoever it was is hiding like partially behind the tree. So I'd look up a little ways because I can only see the two huge thick legs next to the tree, which is about the same thickness of the trunk.

So I figured the head would be up there about six feet and they're peeking through the branches. looked up and no, there was no head there. Then I noticed movement further up, and I looked further up and about nine feet up, is there was something peaking through the branches, and it wasn't anything even remotely close to being a human. And it looked startled for a second when I saw it, like, oh, crap, you saw me. And then he gave me this big grin, and that was extremely disconcerting because this thing had like an ear-to-ear mouth.

and huge teeth in it that looked more like shark teeth to me than anything. Plus, the way it was standing there looking at me, he was holding the upper branch up with one hand, and it was holding the lower branch down to the other to make enough space for it to see through. So I can only see that part of its face, but I could see its fingertips. And to me, it looked like it had black talons on the end of its fingertips.

So I immediately decided I have no idea what the hell this thing is, but it's huge, and it looks carnivorous, and I'm out of here. And I jumped on my sled and tried to break the world luge speed record down the hill. And, you know, it's a really good thing. We built that run as well as we did because this is the first time either one of us tried it at full speed. If those superst hadn't worked out, it went flying off right into a tree and gotten killed. But at that point, I didn't care. It was like, I'd rather pile into a tree and get killed and get caught by whatever the hell that thing is back up on the hill by.

Yeah, yeah. How far are you guys from home at this point? About three miles. Okay. So you're like out and you're kind of out there. Yeah down a fire lane about three miles out in the woods Yeah

And then we just went back to my house And for some reason he didn't ever ask me You know what were you running from or anything And I never asked him if he saw anything Just when he finally caught up to me He went oh I'm tired And I went well let's go back to the house and warm up You said that you think this is like a subspecies of Bigfoot

Because it didn't look like a normal Sasquatch No it doesn't look anything like the normal ones It was about two years later when I was just hanging out with Dave again. And he goes, hey, remember that time we went sledding on the fire lane? And I'm like, no. You know, and we were way back there past that slew on that really tall hill. And I'm still not remembering it. I'm like, no.

And you came, yeah, man, you were like sledding down the hill really fast and you look scared and you said run like hell. Then I remembered it. All of a sudden it came back. You like blocked it out. I was like really not happy that he brought that up for about two years after that. I didn't even want to go in the woods at all. And I still loved hunting and everything. So I would go like hunting near the house, like within eyesight or a hundred yards, heavily armed like Rambo.

And then finally I would go out further in the woods with lots of other friends heavily armed. And then I would go out in the woods like not quite so heavily armed by myself and so on and so forth. Until I had my second encounter, which convinced me that it didn't matter if I was going out of the woods or not. They were still going to show up on the damn yards. So what's the point? Do you feel like you have something that attracts them to you? I hope not, but there seems to be a pattern of that sort of thing with other Bigfoot experiences. A lot of the people who get involved in doing research isn't because they're interested in Bigfoot.

It's exactly the opposite. They have no interest in it whatsoever, and they see one of the damn things. And then they go, well, what the hell? These things are obviously real. What the hell else is real? You know, that becomes a real problem. And I don't know if it's harder to handle when you're older or, you know, when you're younger. But for me, at 10 years old, I was already like, well, adults are all liars.

He told me there's no such thing as monsters. There's a friggin monster right back there. Yeah. Gosh. No denying what that thing was. That was not a bear. We had bears around our property constantly. We only lived two miles from the county dump.

And they would stop and snack on our trash cans on the way back and forth from it. In your research in the last 40 years or so, is there any significance to get any a smile from a big foot as opposed to just seeing, you know, having a sight of? Absolutely. If they smile at you and they don't open their lips, they actually like you. They have that same characteristic as we do. If they open their lips and they show you their teeth, that's classic ape behavior. Almost all the great apes and most of the monkeys do this too.

They're showing you part of the arsenal that they have at the ready to tear you to pieces. It's a threat. And you would say this one you saw in the snow was aggressive. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm convinced that's what the Algonquin confederation of natives we're referring to as a Wendigo. And their experiences of those things in the upper northeast part of the country is exactly the opposite of the experience of most of the Indians on the Pacific Northwest. I mean, I've read some of these ones you're talking about have almost like scales. They just look like they've got like almost armor on just from rolling in the dirt and it drying and stone, stone sticking to it.

it. They just look like something came out of hell. I classify that as the type forest, which is what you're referring to as a genoscow or the stone giant or they also call them the shining ones. So apparently what they did then is that they would like rub themselves against trees and get the pitch and the sap and stuff like that in their hair. And then they would go roll around in the gravel and get all of these little rock fragments and small pebbles and stuff stuck into their hair. and then repeat process a few times

and after a while they were just like a walking coat of armor and all tar and rocks and stuff when you hit that with a you know Flint arrowhead it don't go in interestingly after the natives got their hands on the boomsticks from the white man there's no more reports of the stone giants

having armor anymore so whatever was up here was actually acclimated to living in subartic conditions and living on a carnivorous diet, which is why I think, you know, the big nasty shark-like teeth and the claws, tall and looking claws on the fingers.

Okay. And I had two other people on my show that actually, I had a workup of the face that I saw done by a really good artist, Bigfoot 411, and then I showed that on the show where I was talking about it. And I had two other people contact me that went, dude, that's the same thing I saw. Dude, do you have a,

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See MintMobile for details. This is kind of a nose dive for like early listeners. you know, where you kind of go from like, do these things exist to their subspecies and these ones are like, you know. Across North America, there's white-tailed deer. Yeah. White-tailed deer everywhere in North America. There's 21 sub-varieties of white-tailed deer.

So since that's a real animal and there's sub-varieties because in each little environmental niche, they've changed a little bit to make it work better in that environmental niche, you would expect if Bigfoot had been here for thousands and thousands and 10 to thousands, who knows how they'll long years, that they also would have developed to be better acclimated to certain environmental conditions. Once down in the south seemed to be a little bit shorter and smaller, comparatively, because they don't need all that kind of gigantic mass. And just like the role with all the regular mammals, the further are the bigger.

And that seems to be the same thing with the Bigfoot. If you got up into Northern Canada and Alaska, there's been sightings just absolutely colossal Bigfoot up there. usually if you're down the south you're seeing most of the encounters of people see one will be between like six and eight feet tall occasionally you get a bigger one in your 40 years dude what why do you think they do what they do i'm not the big thing for you is why correct it's not so much if it's it's yes they're here and how and why they do what is what have you gleaned from your experiences from i guess from from trudging through all the other eyewitnesses the science the scientific stuff stuff, the DNA. Can you encapsulate some of that for us on what you think they do and why they do it? What they do. Well, they're just making a living. They're doing things. They don't have technology because they don't need it. As far as I'm concerned, it's already been proven. I mean, first of all, DNA has already been sequenced. It's available in Zubank. The Ketchum DNA study did that. Secondly, other countries already recognize this as a species.

Russia recognized their version of the Bigfoot as an endangered species in 1965, and Germany and France both followed suit in 1967. Same year they got the Patterson-Gimlin film, by the way. It's interesting. It does go conspiratorial right away, you know, and unfortunately there's just half the population is so afraid of uttering the words conspiracy theory, but it seems that you just can't avoid it when you're talking Bigfoot and you can't avoid all the other paranormal stuff that go along with that.

You know where the term conspiracy theory came from? CIA. That's right. They created that to help debunk people that were figuring out all the BS and were starting to expose it. Yeah, it was meant to push back on their propaganda experiments. Exactly, yeah. How often do you think the average person in the woods walks by one of these creatures? I'm looking for them, and I'm in areas I know they're around, and I've done it.

They're incredibly stealthy. Look, they're tall enough. If you're in a pine forest or something and you've got some medium-sized pines, how high up is the lowest pine branch? Yeah, they're low to the ground. It's like Christmas tree. So you're looking at, you know, the lower branches on most of these common pine trees are going to be somewhere up between like three and five feet. Yeah. Okay, so that's below their waist.

All they have to do is stand still, and you'll think their legs are other than. pine trees. And this is the kind of stuff they do. Most of them tend to be black. All they have to do is get in the shade underneath the tree, especially during the day, and sit there and not move. Most invisible. Yeah.

The other thing is they have, their hair is really strange. It doesn't have, it's basically hollow. And I know a bunch of people that have gotten hair samples and have all tried this trick with it. And it actually picks up the color of whatever it's laying next to. So this helps them blend into things too. How much do you that do you subscribe to biology versus some sort of supernatural ability? Well, as far as I'm concerned, that's mostly just completely biology.

Some of them do have paranormal abilities, not all of them. They're just like humans are. I like to use the analogy that one of my brilliant friends gave to me on this one. And that's that if you're an alien, you came down and visited Earth right now, and your alien overlord said pick one representative human. that's a good example of common humans. What would you take? Okay, because you've got some humans that go into space on the space shuttle,

and you've got other humans that are running around with horse-drawn buggies, you know, what do you guys want me to grab? See, it's the same thing with Bigfoot. Probably the only paranormal ability they all have in common that seems to come up over and over and over and over and over is mind speak. And when you say mind-speak, like, I mean, one of the most, basic things everyone says they feel like something's watching them are they putting that are they making you feel something or they putting a actual like words in your head no it's because you know it's

just their the power of their minds like i was saying with their even if you spend a lot of time in the woods and do a lot of hunting and stuff you will notice that um if you're being watched by a predator you know it you can feel it one of your friends is watching you can tell there's somebody staring at you and you go and you turn and Bigfoot are hyper attuned to that sort of stuff. I heard from a couple different people that have been watching them on the other side of a canyon through field glasses. And as soon as they had the field glasses on them for about 30 seconds,

the Bigfoot stopped and turned and look directly at them. Like they could tell somebody over there was watching them. They couldn't see exactly where they were, but they could feel their gaze. And that's what's happening. They're walking through an area of the Bigfoot is watching them. They have the Bigfoot's full attention, and they can feel the Bigfoot's gaze on them. and if it's feeling like a hostile feeling,

yeah, the Bigfoot's pissed at you, and that's why you're getting that. Otherwise, you'll just get the creepy feeling, hey, I'm being watched. I can't see what's watching me. Something's watching. Do you think humans can do that? We can, like, project our feelings and thoughts.

Others, we just don't have the, we haven't tapped into that part of our brain yet or something. Absolutely. If you're, you can do that when you're, if you're hunting too, I mean, if you're watching a game animal,

you're thinking about shooting and you stare at it too much, it'll realize it's being stared at and it'll get jumpy. Lots of hunters can attach to that. It's weird. Like sometimes I'll be thinking of my friend and then my phone will like pop up and it'll be them calling me. I've had that happen so many times.

I'm always like, that's so weird. I was just thinking about you. Just made my point for me, buddy, because that's the same thing that's going on with the squatches. They've all got basically paranormal abilities. We've all got them too.

We just haven't learned how to use them. And most of them, the only thing they know how to do is mindspeak. That's it. Some of their clans know how to do all sorts of nifty tricks. but unless you grew up in that clan, you didn't get taught how to do them,

so you don't know how to do them. It's all what they have access to. And some of these Bigfoot clans are really advanced, and they've got a lot of tricks up their sleeve. And other ones are just, the only thing they got is mind-speak, and they can outrun your ass easily, and that's it. So, Duke, if they mind-speak,

then talk about the vocalizations they do as well, because they've got, apparently have, like, a range beyond the human range within their vocalizations. If they could mind speak and they vocalize, in your research or in your mind, what are the vocalizations all about then? Well, they're vocalizing. They're just talking to each other and stuff. And they are incredible mimics.

They can make sounds that just about anything that they've heard. They can mimic it really well. We've heard reports of them mimicking the sound of a Harley Davidson starting up out in the woods. There was another guy that had them mimicking no logging trucks all the time. Wow. Yeah, after logging season was over, we'd still hear logging trucks. there's no logging trucks coming down on the truth. Sounds like a ghost story almost.

You know, like you're hearing things that have like happened previously. I think that's where a lot of these ghost stories came from originally. People would hear weird noises and stuff in some abandoned place and think it's haunted with ghosts. No, it's Bigfoot hanging around. Like voices. Yeah, they hear like voices or. I know we've listened to the Sierra, the Sierra sounds.

And there's some crazy like almost sounds like chatter like people talking. Samurai chatter. Yeah. Yeah, you have to actually, you'd have to like record their. their language and slow it down for it to be understandable to us, even if we did know exactly what the hell they were saying, because they speak so fast. And I think that has to do it because they're usually telepathically communicating with each other

where there's no limitation on how fast you can go. I've heard they're like they've often mimic people's voices and try to call them out of their cabins. I caution everybody to consider that there are other things in the woods besides Bigfoot that are a lot more hostile to humans. that people are pretty much blissfully unaware of. So don't automatically assume that just because it's something we're in the woods that's bigfoot.

What else is out there? There's all kinds of cryptids out there. Just about all those things that they told you that are imaginary, they're not imaginary. Let's not go camp any time. Well, research about the area that you want to go camping again and find out what all the legends are about the local cryptids. Well, this area's got this kind of monster,

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Hey, so my big question on all this then is always the question of the skeptics, right? So where's the body? I don't know that they pulled bodies out of the wood and then covered it up or whatever. But yeah, okay. That was my big question is where are the where are the Bigfoot Sasquatch? Bodies disappear as soon as somebody comes up with one. Kevin Lang that I had on my show was actually in a situation where the local rumor, rumor mill had gotten going that there were some people that had been arrested because they had gunned down the family of Bigfoot.

and he actually saw this. He was near the not usually used airfield where they had the transport plane, and they had the dead Bigfoot bodies that they had already tarped off. They had them on pallets. They were hauling them in. And they had three people already in orange jumpsuits in chains that they marched onto the plane with them before they flew away with it. Why do you think they were keeping them hidden?

What's the point of Bigfoot not coming out? I can understand why the government hides like cures for diseases and other things. Keep in mind they're always trying to sell us on. There's no such thing as magic. Everything is technology. This throws that in the toilet. It also throws their whole evolution BS in the toilet. Hey, what are these other adjacent hominids still running around that you said were extinct?

You know, does it have something to do with the fact that you can't control them? Kind of make it sound like that there is the supernatural abilities that we all have. and we're all connected to something deeper, and there's a thread there, and the government or whatever, doesn't want people to tap into the fact that they are supernatural creatures, and if they figure out,

if Bigfoot exists, it's supernatural. So it's just this slippery slope, kind of like people will become self-aware that life, the explanation, the history? Right, you're absolutely right, but let's look at it for a second just from straight down the middle of the road, scientific analysis.

Bigfoot is suddenly real. okay, who has been covering this up? You're going to tell me the government didn't know about this for all this time? Why were you covering it up? You've got an adjacent hominid that's clearly very human-like. It's one of our relatives. We've already established that with the DNA testing. Why are you covering this up?

Why have you been lying to us about this all this time? Okay. So if the Bigfoot is actually real, what else is it actually real? You remember all those giant skeletons they keep hiding all the time? They keep finding remains of giants. hiding them for the last 150 years. Thanks to Powell Doctrine from the Smithsonian, completely funded by the government, by the way. Smithsonian Museum, Powell Doctrine, yeah, let's hide every giant skeleton that comes along.

So the next thing on the can of worms that gets opened up is, well, Bigfoot's real. What about all these giants you've been hiding from us? So I think in episode one we talk about the giants of the Old Testament. And here we're talking about Sasquatch and then we're talking about subspecies of Sasquatch. But I don't think some people out there realize that some people to this day still see giants in North America. Can you talk about that in their technology? Yeah, people see giants, but giants have technology. They use tech like we do, even if it's really primitive tech. They'll have primitive clothing. They'll have primitive, you know, furs wrapped around

their feet to make, you know, make-ship boots out of. A lot of the times when people see these things, they're in the furthest north. Where? We're at? Alaska, Siberia, those kind of places. In northern territories, all that, yeah. Yeah. Do they live underground? or they live underground and they come out? Biblically and from all the mythological standpoints that you can find, they always say that they live underground. And population numbers,

what's the population of Sasquots you think versus these creatures? Hard to know. I mean, just you've got the natives down in the southwest that talk about a lot of the giants are still around, that they're actually living underground, that they've been living underground

for hundreds of years, occasionally what them comes. the surface. Some of them have Bigfoot for their henchmen. They keep them as like fricking slaves and bully them around, use them for henchmen. And occasionally one of them escapes and gets to the surface. And if you want more information on

these guys, go to Steve Quayle. Another Montana, it's like required to know about giants to live here and do cryptid grease. That's his stick. Dude, does just have anything to do with like the underground cities we hear about, like underneath the Denver airport and all those There's a lot of these presumed aliens and older races that aren't supposed to exist anymore that are all supposed to have, you know, big hollowed out areas underneath the ground that they're living in,

whether they're connected to each other or not. And then, of course, there's Phil Schneider with all the deep underground military bases that he was involved in building the tramways between them and stuff. So a lot of their stuff gets, you know, blinked up and they have wars underground, and God knows what other weird stuff they're doing that we're not pretty, too. So the ones, so real quick, the ones that people see like north up in Canada and stuff, like how tall are they? Yeah, most of those sightings, you're talking about something. It's like between 15 plus feet tall. Dang.

15, 20. Yeah, they'll carry a club or they'll have a spear or they'll have a stone axe they made. And, you know, like what you would imagine, an old fur trapper from 150 years ago would be wearing homemade clothes or something like that. During the summer, they don't wear much of anything. and some of these things I think are I think we're dealing with three different things here we've got giant bigfoot and I hate to say it trolls are real too

there's very few of them thankfully but again that's another one that could be using rudimentary technology all the old legends talk about them you know roasting their victims over fire when they had enough time they were just hungry wanted to eat them to go and are those trolls those like the bridge trolls and all that yeah avian trolls yeah

They have, in their old legendary, they have three different names for things. And I was in contact with Crypto-Swedon over there for years talking about this back and forth. And there's researchers over there in Sweden, Norway. All the Scandinavians talked about the Yodans, those are the giants. But a troll isn't a yoke, nor is it a poorest person. And when the Swedes say troll, they're talking about anything supernatural is a troll. A little person, a big person, whatever, they're all trolls. Almost ghost or almost trolls too

Huh But when you're talking to the Norse The Norse idea of a troll Is this big hulking monster That's like eight or ten feet tall It eats humans Think Grendel from Bando Yeah

Yep Does this put the fear of God in people Did most of these people just like Freak out and they have to You know They have to kind of go through the philosophical Understanding of their life Once they see these creatures

There was a lot of researchers That quit or take long breaks after weird things happen or they see something that they weren't ready for. And I bet. How many of these sightings do you think happen and then that person doesn't survive? Oh, some of these cryptids, man,

if you see one, you're almost guaranteed to not survive it. I was really hoping after I had talked about my sighting publicly and had a really good mockup of it done so I can show it to people that there'd be like a whole flood of people coming in going, oh, I got chased by one of those. Ha, ha, ha. Yeah, no, there's only been two. so as far as I know there's three witness survivors of this particular cryptid and I'm one of them

and do you think dude do you think that like this you know stuff with the um the missing 411 and all the people to go missing international parks and the people to go missing across the country do you think a fair amount of that has to do with cryptids yeah there's a bunch of stuff going on to that i mean one of the things that they discount right away is uh well the uh you know the circumstances are so bizarre a human couldn't have physically done it yeah yeah Yeah, maybe. You're eliminating the possibility that there's humans that are in league with demons and can get shit done that way.

The genuscoe that I was talking about, absolutely, if you go wandering too far up in the woods by yourself. You know, and they're not good suspects for a clean getaway. They're not liable to just grab you and walk off and not leave any evidence that they grabbed you and walked on. Because they're pretty messy. They usually twist your head off. Jeez.

The little people, they still. seal people sometimes and bring them back again. And sometimes they just never come back again. And there's been little people sightings on the continent as long as there have been people on the continent. Henry Hudson, when he was exploring over the northeast doing his explorations around Hudson Bay, was well recorded, that him and his troop of men ran into some dwarves that were playing nine pins and getting drunk, just like the old, just like the other tall tail from the same

from the same region, by the way. and he said they had like one beer with them and he wasn't sure what they had in a beer or anything but he got way too hammered from it and his men started acting really weird and he got concerned that you know I heard these legends about if you take their food or drink or anything you're screwed you're going to be stuck with them forever

and you'll never get away so he kind of went oh yeah I remember hearing those legends hey guys let's leave now make whatever you will of that but that's actual report from Henry Hudson the guy that did the recon Hudson Bay man How much of this is fake and fake, you know, reports and people making up hoaxes, you think, versus, I mean, at this point in history, it seems silly to try to make up some of this stuff because it's been reported for so long. I don't think, I think very little of it is fake and made up. I've been contacted by tons of people, and I've only had like two of them that I consider to be suspicious.

All the rest of them, and most of them have after the fact proved that they weren't. They weren't kidding. They produced videos or pictures, audio recordings or whatever. And it's like, well, yeah. A lot of the people that are having these experiences and stuff, they're not running a channel. You got to look at where's the money? They follow the money. Yeah.

If you're going to go make like eight Bigfoot costumes so that you can film a whole clan of Bigfoot running around by you, how much money are you going to put into making realistic Bigfoot costumes? And how many people are you going to get that are really odd shaped and size to wear those costumes? and how are you going to pay them enough to shut the hell up and never tell anybody they did this? And then how are you going to make money off it? It's just pointless. And most of the people that come on a show and tell their story, yeah, granted, there might be some attention horrors out there that are just making up a story because they've been listening to Sandwich Chronicles around the clock for the last break. But I think that's an outlier.

Most of the people you can just tell by their tone of voice and they're telling their stories and stuff. Some of these people have been severely traumatized. really terrifying stories, they won't come on a show and talk about it. Yeah, a lot of people come on these shows as therapy because they have no one else they can talk to. And the real traumatic ones, they don't want to come on. I heard that a lot. And, you know, something we should talk about, too, is like in the parks and stuff, like all the weird disappearances going on. I was just in the Smokies, and I didn't let my kids get out of my sight because I know better.

And a lot of people don't know this. And I think it's worth getting that information out there. Even if you guys don't believe in any of these cryptids or supernatural or anything like that, Consider the fact that the people that work with the parks and all that sort of stuff are not really that forthcoming about telling us what's going on and are frequently caught with their pants down saying there's no mountain lions in this area. And then somebody will produce a picture of women next day. So just because they tell you there's no bears or mountain lions or whatever they're trying to tell you there isn't any of any area you're going to go camping in, don't believe them. Yeah, I mean, just some basic.

I mean, to me, it feels like a lot of Bigfoot researchers are trying to get the information out there to help people. And I would say that's a noble thing. And some people learn it for the money or hoaxing or whatever. But I had a question for you. I think if all, if I'm sitting here, I'm going, okay, look, you're describing all kinds of creatures. Of all the creatures out there that you've heard about, seen, what's your favorite and why? And what's the most interesting and captivating to you of all the creatures? Yeah. Well, the ones that I've seen.

the only cryptids that I've seen is Bigfoot as far as I know two different kinds as far as I know because the mountain the mountain giants just sound I mean this sounds fascinating I mean could you see in a 20 foot tall guy with a club walking down the side of a hill I mean that no no no no no there was one of those guys that tried to tell it he called Wes and told Wes his story but wouldn't come on the show and tell it

and he was just like seriously shook up and went well that ruined my life I used to to love hunting and I'm never going to be able to all that. Yeah, I don't blame him. When's the last time you saw a Sasquatch? You mean photo bombing me or in person? Like a grade A sighting, I guess. Seeing two of them, 2015, one in the fall and one in the spring.

Can you describe those encounters? Give us a little more detail. I was going back up to my campsite and I came walking in a direction. I usually didn't come walking in. As a matter of fact, I didn't follow the trail at all. I went up, climbed up a short cliff and then across this field, and there was wind blowing toward me, making lots of noise with the grass blowing. So apparently the Squatch did not hear me coming until it was too late, and I had walked

through the tree line, and he didn't have any options if he moved, of course, you know, we see movement. So I would have caught him out of the corner of my eye and turned. So he just plunked his ass down like he was a stump and pretended he was a stump. And I had just been watching somebody else's channel when I was in town, and I went, oh, yeah, this stump looks like a freaking big foot. I'm going to get some video a paradolia right here. This will be cool.

So I reached down to pull my camera off my belt, and I look back at the stump, and the stump's now glaring at me. And I'm like, well, that's not a stump. He's about 60 feet away, and he doesn't look very happy. Maybe I won't take a picture of this stuff right now, and I put my camera back in my belt, and I kept walking. When the next thing that occurred to me is, well, he's only about 80 feet from my camp.

so I really don't want to piss him off because he's like between me and safety if I have to abandon camp he's in between me and the road right so I really don't want to piss him off so I'm just going to pretend like nothing happened that's right I didn't see you you're a stump I don't believe you're a big foot it was kind of hilarious too because when he plumped his butt down there was a stick there about that big around mom was a stick then it was actually a small tree but he squished it so for the last few years it's been really easy to find that spot because there's that one lone tree that's like growing up out of the ground and where he just sat down and squashed it in the fall we were camping me and jack were both doing research down by the uh blackfoot river this is still warm and i had there was no mosquitoes down there he had my tent unzipped and i was lying in there sleeping in between my tent and his tent there was a thicket well like four and a half feet tall and then there was another clearing that he had his tent in beyond it.

I remember I was hearing commotion over by his tent, and I'm like, what the hell is he doing at 2 o'clock in the morning, digging around by his tent? This guy's not a night owl like me. He doesn't wake up easy. And so just kind of silently, I didn't have to unzip my tent, so no zipper sound. I climbed right out of the tent, and I had a camp chair right there.

So just silently sat on the camp chair. This racket's going on the whole time. And I went, hey, and all of a sudden, I hear him and his tent go, So what? What are you doing by my... And I said, I'm not over by... And then he had a camp light out in front of his tent.

So you could see him like a little glow around the opening where his tent was and stuff. And there was this tree about like a big round that was maybe 20 feet away from me. And all of a sudden this huge shadow goes by the tree. And I'm like, oh, crap! And then I think, no, he's just getting out of his tent. He's got the lamp right next to his tent. When he got out of the tent, he was in a crouch position. It's shadowy.

So it looked like this huge big foot. So I'm like, oh, calm me down. And he goes walking in front of the tree. No, it wasn't a freaking shadow. It was actually a huge big. Like, oh, God. It was just over by your camp. And he goes, well, it wasn't you.

And I go, yeah, I just saw it walk by the tree. There was one of them over there messing with your cooler. And he's like, I got to put my cooler in the tent. And I go, I'm not that sure. That's a good solution. Let's see what some company. That was pretty creepy because she couldn't have been more than 15, 20 feet away from me when she went around.

but she's trying to be silent instead of blasting through a thicket. She's taking our little winding trail that we made through this underbrush. The only noise she made was when she was messing around to this tent. As soon as she started walking out of there, you didn't hear a damn thing. And something that, again, always blows me away, how they can be that huge and not make any noise in their walking around. You think they have some sort of paranormal ability to, like, if they can send thoughts on your heads, if they can somehow mute their noise that they're making with their bodies? I don't know.

I do know that they have, this is something that was brought up by Albert Osman when he was kidnapped by him for a few days. They've got big fat pads on the bottom of their feet. And other people I know that have actually had contact and touched them, so they've got really thick skin, like about a half inch thick.

So you've got about a half inch thick skin, and then you've got this pad that's like that frigging thick. It's like a gel and insul on the bottom of your foot. And when they step down, it actually squooshes out. You can see that in the trap. the way the tracks are formed. So that pad is like muffling and compressing

and taking away most of the sound of them sneaking around, plus they're really good at sneaking around. I've heard it said many times that like when people have a siding, it just gets completely silent in the forest. It's like noise. They enter into like a noise bubble, and there's no sound. I got a guy I'm going to be having on my show

who goes under the handle a Bigfoot Anthropologist, that's his YouTube channel, and he does analysis of sound recordings. And we figured out quite a while ago, the Bigfoot outlaws figured this out that they had, you know, infrasound capabilities. But me and Bear were talking about it,

and we also think they have ultrasound capability and that they can send and receive in frequencies above and below what our hearing range is. But getting a little amyls in an area to shut up, look, all you need for that is ultrasound. Have you ever heard a dog whistle? Well, no, because we can't hear that range.

But if you blow up a big loud sound in that frequency range, that's the same frequency range, all the little bugs and little vermin-like animals used to communicate with each other. So they're going to hear it loud and clear, and they're all going to shut the hell up. All the crickets and the frogs and everybody's going to shut up. She makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Yeah, I've heard that so many times. So they can just like, oh, everything suddenly went silent.

Well, yeah, we didn't hear the air horn that all the little animals heard. What about the reports that have like UFO kind of paranormal activity that's going on at the same time people are having Bigfoot sightings? I think that's something that had to do with Bigfoot's paranormal abilities, or do you think that those two things are separate but connected? Like that's because that's a lot of what you hear. Yeah, everything's connected one way or another. Most of the people that do Bigfoot research never see any UFOs or anything like that. so I think it's connected in as much as since we're hominids living on this planet, presumably the theory going now is that, of course,

the aliens are messing with us, doing research on us, whatever. If they're going to come all that distance to do research on us, why wouldn't they do research on the other hominids that are living on the planet? Which is Bigfoot. I mean, they're not dumb. That's a pretty decent argument.

Yeah. Let's kidnap a few of them and genetically modify them. We're crazy. ass gray aliens. We got no common sense and we like to fly across the universe in five ways. Okay. So if I was skeptic, I mean, I'm listening to this show. I mean, if you're a skeptic, you're just lost. Go do some research. Well, I mean, people just go, well, those people are all just out in the woods doing drugs. And I wish I had some drugs that could make me unsee some of the stuff I've seen. I'd really appreciate it. If anybody's got drugs like that, pass them along to me

because I'd like to unsee a whole lot of stuff that I saw. Man, I could talk about this stuff forever. I'm just trying to keep people a little bit in this dimension. It took me probably six or seven years to even be able to talk about some of this stuff. I know it doesn't sound like it, but I am an incredible skeptic. You've got to beat me over the head with the evidence repeatedly before I even take a look at it and go, well, that might be reasonable. So at the point where I start saying that, like, yeah, Bigfoot, some of them have paranormal abilities, believe me, there's a lot of evidence for it.

And if you need somebody else to back it up, the most accredited Bigfoot researcher on the planet is Dr. Igor Burtsev, who's the head of the Department of Homanology at the Department of Evolution, evolutionary sciences, in Moscow, Russia. He has been doing field research since 1965, and when I had him on my show last time, I asked him point blank, Igor, why is it so difficult to get photographs, a video of these guys, why it's so hard to get samples from them or to presumably catch one?

And his answer was because they have paranormal abilities. This isn't just a North American or American, you know, thing. Like I said, he's got a group called the International Homanology, international hominology of forest people. And I'm the branch manager from Montana. Love it. If there's a position for assistant to the regional manager, then maybe I'll put my two cents in.

So when in your journey did you kind of go, you switch from thinking these are just animals to these are supernatural beings? When did that happen? And what was the transformation? Because I think a lot of people are, you know, it takes a long time, baby steps to walk into the house. Let me interject there. There was about 20 years of doesn't have supernatural powers.

Humans are exceptionally good hunters. If this is some kind of normal animal, we would have had one in the zoo in 200 years. We can kill anything on Earth and we don't need guns to do it. We were killing whales when we were using harpoons, remember? Somebody would have big foot's teeth and knuckles on a necklace around their throat, you know, being a big bad hunter guy where they'd have one stuffed and, you know, hung on the wall. If they were just dumb animals, obviously they're not dumb animals. The dumb animals are the researchers that think they're looking,

foreign aid. And as DNA research is confirmed, you know, half their genetic line is the same as humans is. We don't know what the father's side of it is, but the mother's side of it is actually human DNA. So they're very close to us. They can interbreed with humans in the same way that Neanderthal, which isn't human, can interbreed with us. Denisivin, which wasn't human, could interbreed with us. Some of the earlier things, like Heidelberg-Ansis, that might even be what Bigfoot is, probably could interbreed with us because they're close enough genetically to do it. So they're near relatives. They're similar to humans.

They're people. They don't think like we do. I mean, they're not humans like we are, but they are people, just like a Neanderthal would be a person or a dismissive would be a person. I've heard some people say that maybe Bigfoot is a genetic, kind of like,

it sounded like, you know, the fallen angels back in the old school day. They were messing with creations and creating weird hybrids. Like they created the werewolves. They created these monkey men. Do you think that could be a possibility that all these crypted creatures are just sort of scientific experiments gone wrong? Or gone right.

When I had Gary Wayne on. He's been on my show a couple of times. And that's exactly what both of us think that a lot of this stuff has nothing to do with human intervention. This is all the Nephlin when they were using their technology early on to create all these weird hybrid monsters. Most of them got wiped out. There's still a few of them around. And now that we have the technology, we're going to try and bring back some of the ones that aren't around anymore. Yay, because we're stupid.

Yeah. Yeah, like Dick, what you're saying with, you know, if the mother's side is human, sounds exactly like the Nephilim. Like essentially, that's crazy. That's why some people, including the person that did the DNA study, toward them being Nephilim. But what I like to point out from a biblical standpoint is there are no Nephilim anymore.

Nephilim is the old vernacular for them for pre-flood. After the flood, they're the Refi'em. They're the risen ones. The creepily somehow risen ones. You know, how were they risen again? Did somebody reek from genetically?

We didn't have the tech at the time to do it. My best guess is that some of them were hiding on the other side of portals while the disaster was going on. and others were underground in Nyssealed chambers in stasis waiting for the timer to go off and wake them up again. Exactly what the Indians in the Southwest say that there's large groups of giants on the other side of some of these portals

and they have ceremonies and communicate with them. And the giants have been telling them they're getting ready to come back soon. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. So do you think that that's what they're trying to do with all these seances and megaliths around the world? They're trying to open these portals and history of that and get these creatures to come out and manipulating these creatures. I mean, I don't know how weird we want to get on this episode, but just trying to figure out where, like, to go back in time and figure out where do Bigfoot come from? And if this is here, you know, you think linearly, you know, we're kind of in a snapshot in time in the middle.

The creatures, the Nephilim. Is it all connected? Is it all the same story? and we're just kind of piecing it together. It's like asking if Belrogs and elves are connected. Well, from Lord of the Rings standpoint, they are. How much of a connection is there? Not much.

Is it all connected? Yes, and a roundabout way. Pretty much all of it's connected at some point or not. Yeah. I personally don't think that Bigfoot are the Nephlin. There's other candidates for that. Gary originally had thought they might be the Horim, which is one of the tribe of Nephilim that were extremely hairy.

And after he did more research, into it. He kind of discarded that too, and he's back to, I think they're pre-atomites. And that's pretty much where I'm at with it. I think they're one of the earlier races, just like Neanderthals or Denisovan or whatever. They were running around on earth before the fallen ones came here and wrecked up the place and started creating all kinds of weird mutants. Sure, sure. I want to keep going. I really do. I think my last question is, is can you, I think what this all brings up to me is like the big foot a question about the bigfoot community itself there's people who believe in big foot and then there's this whole group of people on the inside who seem to be cannibalistic they

hate each other they talk shit about each other they you know what i mean they fight each other it's just like this big ego thing inside the big big foot community and it can you talk a little bit about that just because like we we've covered everything else and i feel like that's kind of the last thing i where they want to lay out to listeners is that inside the Bigfoot world, it's not hunky-dory. People are a little weird. Yeah. Well, first of all, there is no Bigfoot community. It's a whole bunch of different factions that fight with each other all the time.

There's nothing homogenous about it on any subject related to Bigfoot. Second thing is that you've got issues with the reason that there's ego issues is because look who's attracted to doing something like this. It's telling to completely swim up river, go against the ground. grain tell everybody else they're crazy and I'm right and then go out to prove it well they've got a really big ego somebody with an ego that big is not liable to be a good team player that's going to work with other people especially other people with egos that big so there's your problem if you want to if you're part of the insiders and the government that want to keep this information coming out all you have to do is just get a few trolls to start fights between these guys hey so-and-so said this

about you really oh so-and-so said this about you oh i heard that blah blah blah blah blah blah And next thing, you know, all the researchers are fighting with each other. Here's how you can tell if somebody's worth a damn to listen to or not. Do they put boots on the ground? Do they actually go out and do the research? Yeah. Okay? If they don't do that, they're not worth listening to.

They don't know what the hell they're talking about. People that read secondhand reports from somebody, somebody who sent me a report, I'm going to read it. That's worthless. You don't know if it's real or not, and the guy reading it doesn't know anything. Some of these channels that are really popular right now, they don't have anybody telling a story.

It's one thing I do like about Sasquatch Chronicles. Wes has the actual person that had the siding on there telling the story. First hand. Right. You can listen to their voice. You can decide for yourself. You believe it. Give Wes a lot of credit for that.

Some of these other guys, they're just flat off making these stories up. So, you know, consider careful what you're getting your information from and what the source is. The most reliable ones are the guys that are out in the field doing the boots. on the ground research. And interestingly enough, those are the ones that aren't making any money.

The guys that are actually doing the research and getting the information are the ones that are not making any money. It's purists, right? They're doing it for the... Doing it because we're interested in the subject. Right. We want to know more about it.

And I'm fortunate enough that with my show being primarily geared toward having people with, you know, evidence to show on it, that I've been able to get together a good group of, you know, really honest researchers from all over the continent and from other parts of the world. Yeah.

aren't egomaniacs that want to share information with each other. You get consistency across the spectrum. And that's really what you need to establish empirical evidence, right? Like you need to have consistency. Yeah. Yeah. And whether you've got some kind of a degree or a piece of paper you paid for it from the university is irrelevant to this. We're actually using the scientific methodology, testability and repeatability.

You have a theory. You go out in the field and test it, see if it happens again, if it starts happening, again a whole lot like 100% of the time then you can start going hmm this may actually be a fact and not just a theory and then you can like very carefully say well I think this is probably what's going on example of it already right especially if other people can repeat the same methodology and have the same results right that's where you that's where you're going to get what you foundational evidence I would I would imagine and that's yeah that doesn't doesn't involve making up stories that for clicks or you know for television

The first time in my life I realized there's like nerdy subcultures was when I was working in a camp in Santa Cruz and I got into disc golf for like two months. Oh boy. There's just all these nerdy dudes. There's always dudes and they just obsess about stuff. Rarely do females enter into these spaces. Why is that? Why is that? Yeah, there's too much of that competition going on.

And then I said like there's, you know, the other factions that are trying to induce that competition to keep people. from work to meet together. And they've been very, very successful at it for about 30 years now. Hopefully that will come to a screeching hall now that we have social media and people actually can contact each other. Yeah. Right. You can't suffer to so discord when you've got communication between parties. You know, I could tell a researcher somewhere else, I got this crazy theory.

You guys want to check it out. And by the end of the week, I've got five researchers coming back that have already been out to their areas and go, yeah, check this out. And here's what happened. Man, that's awesome. That's great feedback. Instant feedback. almost. So, so my last question, and then we got to go. This is the next last question. This is the last one. If, if you took Luke and I out, if you took Luke and I out to your,

your hotspot, what are the chances we'd actually see a squash? I was actually crunching the numbers on that, joking with one of my friends about it earlier this summer, and that I am about 90% for having people actually have a Bigfoot experience while they're out with me, and I'm close to 80% for people being actually seeing one while they're out with me. Nate and I are coming. I took 12 people out last summer and there was only three of us that didn't get to see one. I was one of them and two of my local team guys were the other two that didn't get to see one. One of them got to see like five.

Another one got to see two. That three of them got to see two. Yeah, they were all seeing up. We got audio recordings. We had air samples. Tons of tracks. That's awesome. I like those odds.

I like those odds, Nate. Yeah, those are great odds. some of these other guys that they'll take you out to live interact with a Bigfoot and then charge you three. I won't charge you anything and I can virtually guarantee you're going to, you're going to have Bigfoot around there. They'll come mess with your tent if not nothing else. Oh, man. I love it, Duke. You sound like a purist. You sound like a guy who's interested in the subject, trying to help people, trying to be a good guy. And, you know, you're not in it for anything else, but it's just curious. And you love this subject. And I appreciate you coming on the show.

and dropping all this stuff. I mean, my mind's spinning from everything from little people to 20-foot-tall club-carrying beasts. You want to plug your show again, and if anyone wants to get in contact with you, maybe you don't want them to. But that's fine. Anybody wants to contact me. We actually have a cryptid report hotline that I don't have handy right now and don't have the number of memorized, but you can drop me a line at World Bigfoot Central at Yahoo.com. I also have the YouTube channel, World Bigfoot Radio.

I'm on TFRLive.com every Friday with World Bigfoot Radio show there. And I'm also on library, Bright Eon, and Bit Shoot. So if you want to get my videos anywhere else, I currently have 197 out. Most of them are between an hour and two hours long, and these are not like sit around and chat videos. These are showing people out and, you know, showing their evidence videos, you know, pictures of Bigfoot, pictures of tracks, pictures of tree structures, audio capture. or that kind of stuff. Awesome. Thank you.

You haven't got your show. This is enlightening. I appreciate it. Yeah. We love it. Thanks, too. We might call you back later if you have some more time than, you know, in a few months here. I don't have to dig in and just really start thinking about all this stuff than

unwrapping it. It might have more questions and we might have to get Montana and have an 80% shot, Nate. Yeah, I would love to go to Montana. I would be close to you, though. We have to share a tent and I'd be snuggling right. next to you. As long as the big, as long as not a big foot.

I'm good. All right, dude, thank you. Thank you so much. Thanks, dude. Totally appreciate your time. Thank you. And don't hug the wood of Pete.