Blurry Creatures - EP: 30 "I Dug Up Giant Bones"
Episode Date: March 29, 2021Where are the bones? After multiple episodes proving that ancient giants once roamed America, we inevitably return to the question of what happened to, and where are the bones of these giants? The his...torical records and accounts of discoveries of giant skeletons speak for themselves, but in Episode 30 we track down an eyewitness--someone who has seen giant bones and seen them on his property. Roger, a farmer from rural Minnesota, joins us to tell his story of digging up an ancient giant skeleton when he inadvertently dug into an undiscovered and eroded serpent mound on his property. BUT THE DISCOVERY OF THE GIANT WAS ONLY THE BEGINNING. What follows the discovery of the bones and burial mounds, is by far the most bizarre, weird, strange, and compelling story that we have ever heard, either on our podcast or any other. What Roger says is happening out on his 94-acre farm in Minnesota will blow your mind. Buckle up. contact: blurrycreaturespodcast@gmail.com blurrycreatures.com Socials instagram.com/blurrycreatures facebook.com/blurrycreatures twitter.com/blurrycreatures Music Kyle Monroe: tinytaperoom.com Aaron Green: https://www.instagram.com/aaronkgreen/ Mastering: ironwingstudios.com Outro Song: TimeCop1983: timecop1983.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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So often people email us and they have this story.
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Well, I knew somewhat about them, but when I first discovered them, they were here before because you could hear them growing different stuff, and I thought it was wolves.
See, and that's when the horses were scared. I thought it was wolves out there, so it carried a gun around or whatever.
But then when Lewstein and the cub got killed, that's a bearer, local black bearer when we got here.
She was being ripped up down in the wild rice gorge. I was going to go down there and help get my gun.
But it was done, and wolves don't do that.
Just bleed them.
You know, it takes a long time.
So that was, I started to think there's something different going on here.
And that's when I started, you know, picking up that we call them Rice Lakers because they winter up at Rice Lake once in a month.
All right, Luke.
All right, Nate.
You were just telling about your whiskey collection.
And you reminded me of that scene in Back to Future Three when Docs at the bar holding the whiskey.
And he's like, he doesn't like to drink it.
He just likes to hold it.
Yeah, I don't get to drink it.
We're in, you know, we're in a little IVF for the second time, and so I don't get to drink it, but I still want it, still want to buy it.
I still do buy it.
It's like, I was talking, I was telling you before, it's like art.
You know I love about bourbon, this is going to be so ridiculous, but there's so many variables in bourbon, from where the barrels age to type char in the barrel to the mash bill to, I mean, there's so many different variables that really to have an amazing product.
It's really, it's really art, too, which is, which makes it that much more fun.
You're like the Dr. Jeff Maldrum of bourbon.
Yeah, so I got this bourbon butt print.
You just look at, you can just look at the beautiful curves of the bourbon barrels.
Yeah, it's just the perineum.
It's beautiful.
Luke, so, you know, I'm learning new things about you every episode.
And, Dr. Meem.
Dr. Mead.
And then I found out you were pre-med.
So you were holding out on me.
So, yeah, almost Dr. Meem.
Almost Dr. Meem.
It would have been true.
It would have been, yeah.
And then we probably wouldn't be doing the show because I'd be like,
fucking hitting people's knees with little hammers and stuff.
Like, you know, figuring stuff out.
Well, if you've been listening to this show,
you've been learning a little bit about things like we have.
You know, by now, I think it's pretty safe to say that, you know,
we've kind of proven a case that giants existed.
But the overarching problem always is,
where are the bones, right?
Where are the bones?
Roger has the bones, guys.
He dug him up.
He saw him.
And then it's another mysterious end to the story.
He's got a serpent mound.
We'll let him tell the story.
He's got a serpent mound on his property.
And this man has seen the giant bones.
He has.
He has seen the giant bones.
So we're going to get Roger on, tell his story, try to do our best to ask him the questions about these giant bones.
But, Luke, we've been on the hunt.
We've been looking for the bones.
You're always looking.
Well, hey, this isn't just a newspaper report.
This is a guy, eyewitness account.
I saw him on my property.
Let's hear this story.
Roger, Roger. What's your vector, Victor?
Roger, Roger.
Welcome to the show, Roger.
We've been emailing, talking on the phone, trying to make this happen,
and we're happy to have you on Blurry Creatures to tell your story.
We tried this one time, but it seems like the audio is always our trouble on this show,
trying to figure out why.
And every time we're talking about the Giants, we have audio troubles.
Right, Lou?
Yeah.
Yeah, isn't it something?
Yeah.
Got a little bit of something going on there, huh?
Right, right?
Seems like when we're getting closer to the truth.
Thanks for having me on.
Yeah, yeah, thanks for coming on.
And we're excited to dive into your story and hear it straight from you because I don't know if you've been listening to the show.
But Luke and I have been on a journey to try to find out why the bones go missing.
Who's actually seen these giant bones?
And you've got an incredible story where you were out on your property.
on your farm one day and lo and behold you're doing some work trying to get some gravel and there
they are sticking out of the ground so maybe you can walk our listeners through uh sort of how you acquire
the property to begin with and then you can launch into how you made this discovery what and what you
did and just describe that what you saw in detail that day good 55 miles southeast to here before
and my wife wanted to come back here home.
That's when we found this place,
and we had to have it.
In the southeast corner of the property
was an old gravel pit,
so we got mounds and hills all over the place.
So I didn't recognize there's so much of this modern scatter around.
So we bought the place, moved in here,
and needed gravel.
So I couldn't get to the gravel pits on the field.
I just went down the ridge away.
Sockpiled the gravel.
came back later with an ATV cart
and was shoveling into the ATV cart
as when I seemed to look like a human rib bone
and the other bone
so then I called in the authorities
and they came out and then they called in the
tried to stay with them as much as I possibly could
so you can argue out.
Roger's not Native American, right?
Is that what it means when he says alien?
Exactly. And I can send you that report to or did I
already? I don't think we got that one.
So let me backtrack just a bit here, Roger.
So you're back filling some gravel for your house
and you just, you end up seeing bones sticking out of the mound.
And they're big.
No, no, I didn't see bones sticking out of the mound.
We didn't see that until after they dug down.
Ah.
And unearthed the two girls.
I took their right shoulder and took the big guy's feet off.
Later on, I came in with an ATV trailer in that.
I didn't realize that.
People listening, a lot of times when a giant is found,
they're often buried with Native Americans, right, at their feet.
Yeah, the girls were definitely
And we heard this a lot, Luke,
because when we brought Travis from Giants of Ancient America on,
he was reading some of these accounts,
and they were always like they were buried with other entities.
Remember some of the weird ones with like dwarves were buried with the...
Is it because they were like kings of these people or rulers over them?
Yeah, there were chiefs or so forth, you know,
and then when they die, you know, it's like
they have a will who's buried.
with them. So their servants go with them to help them in the afterlife and so forth.
And sometimes they even request their wives to be buried with them.
Crazy. So before we get into that, because we can probably rabbit hole real fast down that
trail, you're sitting there and you're with the state archaeologist and you're trying to
stay with them because do you suspect they're going to try to shuffle these bones off and you're
not going to see anything? Or are you... Well, not at the time. No, I just want to stunned that it was
And I told them about Vikings and stuff.
Next week, they missed Monday, and they came out Tuesday, and then they're a zip-lip.
Roger, what gave it away to you initially that it was a giant?
It was something bigger than, I mean, obviously they came back with a port saying it wasn't native.
Were those just big feet?
I mean, when you say you got the feet with a huge?
Well, I dug the feet off.
They were busted up in the gravel.
Oh, okay.
But his shind were sticking out of the side of the gravel.
The gal there was all excited.
I could see, you know, it was way out of proportion to what the girls were.
How big do you think that shin bone was?
I'd say one quarter of the shin bone was sticking out.
See, he wasn't under on when we came back, and Leonard Dalwitin, the whole grave
with the girls curled up at his feet, and they didn't take up more than a foot and a half or two.
That's a little petite these girls were.
It's 12 feet.
I mean, yeah.
Is it right?
12 feet?
My math is terrible.
10 feet.
Well, before we go into the math, I want to make sure people understand the visual here.
Your friend, Leonard, shows up, and he's got the dowsing rods, which are like these copper rods that you use to find wells and things.
So he shows up, and you guys get sort of this dowsing rod measurement where it's not make-believe stuff is actually...
Yeah, see, I didn't order dows at that time.
So I knew Leonard like that.
Like I got him, he'll give me a no by cross.
And you'll give me a yes by opening a Raj's wide opener.
So if you can use the proper words,
upper questions without modern slang in it.
Who do you think is answering there, Roger?
What is it just the energy?
Or is it like, I mean, I've seen this stuff happen.
I was always curious.
What I request is energy all over.
It's part of our mind.
It's part of our eyes.
When God made the earth,
he put these laylines.
on you're like a checker to keep the planet alive.
And that's also this natural energy.
And these guys knew how to tap into it.
They made an energy collector and tapped into it.
If you look on the mystery stone, that's how you start it in front three complexes
with more energy off of that.
Kind of like a giant power plant.
Yeah.
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Well, I want to get into that part of your story, and I want to hear all that stuff,
but just so we can kind of finish, conclude what happened that day.
Right.
Before we hop into the power structure and all the other phenomenon going on, you see a quarter.
of the shin bone sticking out, do they take that, do they take that bone or do they leave it there?
No, it's left there. And did there, no, had to rebury the bones. They took, the bones they found
back to St. Paul to analyze them, and they brought them back with the orca, and threw it in the pit,
and then I backfilled it with the tractor. You said their whole demeanor changed with you when they
returned? Yeah, the first week, they were, we were all excited that we changed history. They're
asking me about, you know, my Viking knowledge and what did they do?
And, you know, when they went down, you know, this.
And then they missed Monday and came out Tuesday.
Everything was totally different.
I mean, they were quiet and weren't asking questions.
They weren't even going on that direction.
So somebody had to have to talk with them.
Who do you think?
Who do you think talk to them?
Oh, you want to call them.
And have those people shown up at your house, Deep State or Men in Black, or have they come
knocking on your door or anything?
No, we had government.
What would they tell you to do?
Does it just to not touch it, to not dig, to leave the whole thing alone, or what was
their instructions to you after leaving?
Yeah.
On the moans, you can't disturb it.
So obviously, at this point in your life, you can sense something's going on here.
Exactly.
Something's different.
These people, did this sort of propel you into doing your own study about what these things are,
or did you have some prior knowledge?
I had some fire and got him on the other side of what the seaway used to be.
And the earthworks up by it.
What if you just go out there in the middle of the night and dig into it?
What do you think it's going to happen?
It wouldn't be good.
You think that they think they would know?
Well, who are you going to show your felony to?
Yeah, right?
You're going to show your felony to.
I thought about it, but you show it to somebody.
You're in jail for five years, you know.
Roger, was this one you discovered, this is the beginning of you discovering that you had mounds on your property, right?
Like this whole discovery, then you find that you have this serpent mound?
You didn't know about that before this, correct?
No, see, it's been 112 for 100 components inside of it.
I'm still there.
But you still can see the features of it.
You can see the egg, and you can see the structure of how the serpent lays out.
Does it look like the one in Ohio?
No, this is a lot.
It's a bigger amount.
Really?
One more.
Yeah, a lot more earth involved.
Yeah, so if those listening, these serpent mounds,
it looks like, when you say egg, it looks like a snake's like opening its mouth kind of, right?
And there's this round oval inside, and then it kind of snake, it does a snake like S.
And then there's one on the other side, right?
Or is it different?
Some people say that they're symbolizing a fallopian tube.
Well, they're saying God's choice.
But no, on the back of the tail, it's a wrap.
It's like the energy had come in, the front of the serpent.
It would on the serpent, rewrap around, and then go back into the,
the earth. But this is eroded.
This part of this clay cliff
fell down. And that's where a serpent tail
getting blocked up here. I had a couple of
amateur researchers
come out and he came across with
the rods behind the
egg and rods took off and slapped them
in the face. So his partner
took them to the rods and yelled them way out in front
of them they took off like a helicopter. But that's
calmed down somewhat now.
Jenny, my neighbor had a couple
of crosses. That kind of reminds
me of our story with, we had a pastor come
the show and talk about having some of these creatures come on his property, put some crosses,
and that calmed it down too.
Yeah.
It's interesting.
How old do you think these giant bones are?
They're right around 1,000 years.
And actually with my surveying, I got to pretty much exact age here within 50 years of what they are.
But this complex, this popped out of the seaway 1,030 years ago.
and the Tyrosite showed up 1,020 years ago.
And they started construction on the Serpent Mountain about 1,000 years ago.
So they moved pretty quick.
Walk us through that little bit because I know that you sent us over the documents,
so we have an opportunity to look at this.
But for our listeners, talk a little about the seaway.
So you're in Minnesota and talk about how there used to be on access.
And this is one of the things that we talked about in our last show,
which the recording wasn't great.
but you basically were talking about how there was Scandinavian,
and we found the evidence.
With Dr. Scott Walters found a bunch of the runestones,
and you find these things there that say that there was visitation
from at least the Scandinavian Viking populations a thousand years ago,
and it's because there was a waterway access, correct?
Yeah, there was a seaway here.
Now, Deep State Academia says as the ice was retreating,
there was a lake behind it called Agassi.
No, it interdates of this agacy from,
like 9,500 to 10, 5 to 12, 5 to 14 now, I think they got it.
But that couldn't have happened because...
Only from you.
...together.
There's been a plush forest here that was pushed down to the hard pound.
And it was during the time where they said the ice age was here.
Well, trees do not grow underneath ice or water.
Right.
Never here before.
And we got to carbonating.
the youngest is 9,800 years ago.
And the oldest, which is in Wisconsin, is 14,000 years ago.
I can read all the carbon-gating off for you.
I got all that information here.
But anyway, deep state of academia.
You see, there's ice here then, an ice age, and it couldn't happen.
It's impossible.
Yeah, this plus forest was here.
What happened 9,800 years ago, that's when a contestor,
So that raises a question we're trying to we've been trying to figure out on our show, Luke, is that we've had a lot of people, a lot of people talk about the antediluvian times.
And it sounds like these giants left the holy lands and went all over the place.
Yeah.
So when they sail down through this waterway into the Ohio Valley and surrounding areas.
Wisconsin, yeah.
Where do these things come from, and are they being forced out of the Holy Lands by wars?
Or why do they migrate?
Why do they go somewhere else?
Well, are you talking about the Canaanites?
The evidence we got to them is 2,500 years ago.
And that's a picture glyphs there, blues, Lake Superior and so forth.
I sent you.
Yeah.
Well, they were coming after the copper.
They could say they were sailing all over the world.
But they knew somehow there's copper on Lake Superior,
and they're using the Clearwater River waterway to get into Lake Superior from the seaway.
Now, the seaway was here up until 1450, you know, still up into Lake Winnipeg.
All this activity happened before 1450.
They're definitely going after the copper, because you can see that right on that.
You can't see the coloring by the naked eye, but the printer picks it.
up.
Just like magic, it just shocked me when I seen it, when I took, made a copy of it.
It just came out bright blue, and you could see the copper color.
Yeah, where were those pictures taken?
They were taken down at Highberg.
See, all these boulders in for a water project at the Hybrid.
On a wild race to river.
So I went in and looked at him and I recognized that, hey, this is, man.
That's where he took pictures of the dragon ship.
I told you about that.
You can even see the eye and the teeth on it.
And you see the dragon-type tail,
and then the sail was up.
It was wrapped up.
And that's the indicate to them that this waterway
you're going to take to get into this copper.
You can't use your sail.
You've got to get the orders out.
You've got to roll a map of what we're getting into
with Lake Superior and the seaway.
And then you also seem to,
the blue on the seaway right to the west of Lake Superior.
Yeah, that's the seaway that was there when they came in on.
So you think the Canaanites came 2,500 years ago?
Were they the first giant beings here, or do you think there was another clan?
No, I think there's first two sons' clans.
Came over here first.
They shipped up and came over here.
And that's what, and there were big guys too.
goes back to Ham's wife's DNA.
In Canaan, he's the fourth son,
and stayed in the Middle East,
and then they kept coming to get copper.
And Solomon was a good buddy,
as he probably had his...
Obviously, we've been talking about this a lot on our show
about how these giants had survived the flood.
You think it comes through the line of Noah's sons?
Well, not through his sons.
The sons were pure.
It's through the wife.
What went on, Noel picked out the wives for his sons,
from his nephews,
Herom had multiple wives.
And apparently there's some contamination in there.
You probably couldn't tell the DNA when they're younger.
Maybe like the Thunderbirds,
they grow the same.
So if Noah picked out his wives,
he wouldn't have known it.
He wouldn't know their Raphaine until later,
until after they got done floating around a couple years
on the sea,
and then hit the ground,
and then you're going to start seniors after a while,
after they keep growing.
There was no paternal test back then
to figure out if you're the daddy, right?
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Yeah, so, I mean,
These guys, here's my other thought, and I've been thinking about this since the show started, Luke, that, you know, these guys are obviously, they can build boats.
Why couldn't some giants build some boats to survive the flood and then, you know, some of them got on one of their own ships?
Is that possible?
Is that a thought or is that just crazy?
No, that's crazy.
Well, that's, yeah.
Who knows, though?
I mean, they seem to be able to sail around the world, so, and they're crafty.
Yeah, but I think the Bible's pretty explicit.
that everyone was wiped out
except for Noah and Noah's family.
So I think that's why it's,
you're either down to, yeah,
like the wife of ham,
which I think there's a lot of evidence for that
or there's a second incursion, right,
that the watchers went for a second round.
And there's two camps.
It could be both, though, right?
Could be both those things.
Could be both.
We talk about the DNA wars and all that stuff all the time.
Roger, back to your property, though,
because I want to you to walk us through
the whole about the laylines and the and what you believe the the serpent mound was used how
it worked and you know obviously you said the tail's broken so it's not collecting energy and you
alluded to that but that was fascinating the research you've done and then you know also the things
you discovered out there as far as more big guys potentially buried on the property yeah we surveyed
down and I surveyed here and from the clay cliff to the killable we've uh there's 60
people buried there.
And the largest one in that area was just under 11 feet.
And there's a lot of them between eight.
And then you got women that are seven and a half feet.
Now that's the one buried way down, let's say, from 750 years ago to almost 1,000.
You got their descendants around 500 years ago, or their offspring,
you know, the bloodline.
They have a village over here.
Some of them are only buried four feet down
and they're small, smaller.
So that DNA has already been bred out of them
by Native Americans, you know, mixed blood.
So the people around 500 years ago,
they're like pretty much normal size.
But the people back 700 years ago
and back, the one I dug up
had to have been seven feet down there.
Wow. But you thought it was 12 foot, or was it 10 foot long?
The biggest one in the yard is 11th, one in the serpent mound.
It's a big guy.
Yeah.
I'm curious about, because when you talk about things like the dowsing rods, Luke,
I mean, a lot of people who've grown up in the church and stuff,
they kind of, they get uncomfortable if you talk about this kind of film.
That's what the ancient judges of Israel.
Interesting.
Look at ancient texts, the judges of Israel.
They use pendulums.
and God didn't want the Israelis to have a king,
but they kept the wine in it,
and I was going to see how that would be,
and it didn't work out very good.
The judges, everything was going good.
It's hard, it's hard for us modern-day Christians
who've grown up in the church.
I mean, we don't really talk about any of this kind of stuff.
So we're very, you know, we go to Walmart and we come home.
We don't, like, our supernatural understanding of the cosmos
is very, very limited.
And even doing this show, I mean, it just gets
weirder and weirder.
And it's harder to open your mind to some of these things
because you're always afraid, Luke,
at least a lot of people I know,
they're afraid of opening their mind too much
and then having some sort of,
you know, you're opening your mind
to the dark side.
Yeah, this here, you've got to use it right.
You cannot use it to hurt God's people,
God's animals.
You don't use it for monetary.
Is that what pressed the forest down?
Was the Ice Age then?
Or we're talking about it, or the catacloser?
Yeah.
It was only here 5,000 years.
The very violent one was 9,800 years ago.
The noise shift, because he had to do that because no one was out there full in their own, general.
Yeah, but that's when the ice pushed the continental plate down and the seaway came in there.
So there was two incursions of water during the shift at 9,800 years ago,
when it popped over the Hudson Bay, then North America got flooded.
and then after the ice pushed.
But, you know, north of Lake Superior,
the land is still rising at an inch a year.
The way it lines up and lines up with energy that way
and all the carbon dating I sent you,
buried forests and the coral,
it lines up to what the angel said,
the two and a half ages.
And Adam and Eve wasn't fired up until the middle of the middle age.
How old do you think the Earth is?
I don't think it's very old at all.
I don't know.
I mean, only God knows that, but it isn't years ago.
And these giants are building mounds all over the place and stone structures.
Are they, you think they're responsible for all the megaliths around the world?
Yeah, that was probably in previous age.
You know, here we got two styles of serpent mounds.
We got one with the egg in the mouth and then one with the egg in the stomach.
That's Maidaeite, that's Celt.
We just across the seaway here, just west of Hildreau, North Dakota.
and Elm River, which that serpent long has been under the plow for 100 years too,
but you still can come up with some of the features.
And there's only one person buried in there.
He's a queen, and that's in the stomach.
So the ones...
I was going to say, like, when we brought Travis on from Giants of Ancient America,
I mean, there's thousands of newspaper reports of these things being dug up.
So, I mean, what's the population in North America you think of these beings?
Like, how many do you think, are they located mostly in that area?
or are they spreading out all over?
Because we found, you know, there's mounds down here in Tennessee,
and they go down into Texas.
There must have been, there must have been a lot of them.
Yes, and they came in by sea.
And wherever we've gone an ancient waterway,
an ancient gorge is probably a creek known.
That's where you look for the mons.
I did some surveying.
See, there was a tribe here back in the 1800s,
and that got along with the Norwegian settlers.
came in.
It sounded like they could communicate with each other.
They could talk with each other.
They were friends.
They traded technology and whatever, you know.
It was an eyewitness.
My neighbor was friends with this tribe.
And he said, he was out plowing.
And he seen the killers come across and wiped out the whole tribe.
And they were in Pinkerton or something like that
because there's white guys and Sue with them.
So they killed them in the year 1880, just under 100 of them, were dead.
And they left them.
They didn't bury them until the next spring.
I think the settlers were owned here.
So that's her deep state.
That's crazy.
Supposedly the last of the giants were huddled on Corn Island.
And this wasn't very long ago.
This was like 350, 400, 400 years ago.
It sounded like there were still giants in one remote part.
Yeah, yellow hair, right?
There's the whole legend of yellow hair.
Yeah.
Yeah. So these guys were the original mound builders, descendants, that were here.
But they're kind of mixed with Native American blood, too.
You know, that's where they got smaller.
And there's a longhouse digout across the Coon Creek.
And they mounded up this land that should have been most eroded.
It's on the east side of the Coon Creek north side of the Wild Rice Gorge, right at that point.
That's where Longhouse Digout is.
So they did a lot of moving earth.
And I also got a ramp to gorge of the Coon Creek.
It follows the layline.
Easy to walk up.
And there's no trees on it yet.
And it doesn't erode.
These guys were amazing.
Getting into it, the more I was just, wow.
Yeah, how do you do your research?
What are some things, ways that you've collected your information?
Well, mainly through energy, mainly through runs, through questions.
The trailer are they in there?
Hands on.
The original fact-checking.
Not this crap we have now where it's all political and bias.
It's actually like we get two references and they both say the same thing and they both seem
credible.
Then let's just you can pretty much count on that being the truth.
Yeah, if you've got two eyewitnesses that are not connected to each other, not brothers
or nothing like that, they're credible.
They're not liars.
They use that as evidence.
and that's the way to do your research
at two different
independent sources
and then put that piece in a puzzle
and that's the way I did it anyway
A lot of people
you know as they learn all of this stuff
it's harder for them
especially at a later age in life
to deconstruct some of these
firm-held beliefs that everything
they've been taught in school
is exactly the way it all went down
and I have to commend you Roger
because you're you know you're
you've opened your mind
up to the point where you really want to, you're really hungry for the truth. And I'm kind of built
that way. That's why I wanted to start to show, because it seemed like everything I learned was
either sanitized or wrong. Do you feel like, do you feel like that's what keeps you going,
what keeps you up at night? You're just, you're hungry for the truth. Exactly. If you get,
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It's hard because, you know, we live in this age where,
everyone's got some truth, right?
So it's this age of whatever, relativism, and there's your truth.
And people are all pushing their snake oil, right?
Well, their serpent oil.
There it is.
It all goes back to the snake.
Yeah, it's people are academia, one of the worst.
Okay, I go on to the university with the coral mineral mix, with the carbon dating.
And he said, no, that isn't coral.
here I'll put the drop acid on it. Nope. It isn't pure coral.
Then they'll, their burden method of aging, it's ridiculous.
They wouldn't stand up in court for earth.
On them trees, branches, or a friend of mine did is a well drawer.
They were 24 feet down only in academia. That would be 2,400.
When we got the carbon dating back, and these buds, these trees were preserved so good
that the buds were still on the branches.
Looks like it just died yesterday.
And Randy still got that in his house.
And so it came out.
So you got the overburdened method saying 2,400 years ago.
You got the carbon dating, saying 9,800 years ago.
And matched that up to what they determined.
To time they deemed that ship 5,260 years old,
so they calibrated carbon dating to that.
So when they brought it over to England to carbonate the Magna Carta,
18 or 80 years off.
And that's been underlock and key,
someone that was.
So these scientists,
they,
thing or what,
you know what I'm getting that?
Yeah, so that's not perfect either.
And that's all because of stiff necks,
you know.
And why do you think they do this?
I mean, that's the question.
Like,
why does this continue to be the story on our show
and everyone's show
who does anything in this space
of whether it's Bigfoot bones
or it's giant skeletons
or it's,
universities seems like it's the narrative over and over again. Why? Why? Why do they do it?
Because they're debunking the Bible and they are coming down years after years. It's just a virus.
Like Trump is trying to clean out of the government and the corporations and everything. It's that
virus that continues in this system. It's crazy. As soon as you go to college and whatever,
you get thinking. In fact, you have to be told what to think. Like the ancients, they were
hands-on thinkers.
They experienced this stuff and all that.
They weren't told.
And that's why they're so far advanced
in figuring out like these laylines
and like this energy collector,
this ditch they dug
and they put like blue clay in there,
white granule of sand
and some high energy rocks
that was clicking off of.
So somehow they can channel this energy
from the layline
into the serpent mound
for afterlife.
I got so much respect
for these ancients,
not their beliefs
in the religion,
but how they figure things out
to me.
And that keeps...
Well, it's crazy.
We talk about, like,
even to Becliotepe,
you look at these places
where technology's exploded,
and if you really look at
these megalists,
like we had, you know,
with Derek Olson
from Marvel's on,
you look these megalists,
and some of these things are insane.
The way they cut these,
it's like laser-cut rocks
that fit together without mortar,
drill holes, and you're wondering how all this stuff was created,
how these massive pieces of granite and stone were moved and stacked and cut precision.
And you realize they knew a lot of stuff that we still don't know how to replicate,
you know, thousands and thousands of years later, which is a wild thought.
They knew something that we didn't know.
Yeah.
I mean, we got holes like that up in the Buffalo River State Park.
I was Canada and I had 2200 years ago, I believe.
and they were trying to make an effigy
onto this rock
it's right by the word of seaway used to be
and then another waterway
at Buffalo River
and they're trying to make a pitcher glyph, I believe,
but it didn't work out for them.
So you can see these half-hole
at the top of the rock, half-holes,
they're perfect.
It had to have been some kind of
a kitchen drill or something.
Right, and some of these stones
are so hard that they would have had to use
the equivalent of our diamond-diamond tip drill bridge.
They couldn't go to Home Depot,
they went to Shalom Depot.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I'll edit that one out.
I'll edit that one out.
One of my questions is, is it's hotly debated on our show since day one.
We brought on Michael Tillinger who talks about these giant beings, being like the Book of Enoch describes 3,000 L.
Do you think they got that big?
Like, what the originals?
Probably in the first age.
Or maybe even the middle age.
It was DNA and then human DNA.
That's 50-50.
What did Noah pick out?
He probably picked out 90, 10.
You know what I mean?
Right.
And the DNA contamination.
So if you get 50-50,
and these guys just keep growing and grown and grown,
I wouldn't doubt them.
I mean, back in the previous age, this age, I don't believe, you know, that big.
We posted a photo yesterday on our accounts that kind of took off and went viral about this footprint that's about two and a half meters long.
And, of course, everyone just jumps in, like, this is crazy.
you're, this is pseudoscience and they throw out all their words. But you see these footprints
in stone and we find them, we post them on our channels, and then the debate ensues and people
just rip each other apart. Like they can't fathom that they're that big. But then you have a lot
of Christian academics, modern day guys that are like, yeah, they didn't get bigger than 12 foot.
So why the discrepancy? Why do you think some guys are like, I mean, we're all belief that
this came from, the story of Genesis is true, but it seems like there's still a lot of debate.
Well, it comes from the brainwashing.
I dig into this.
What they're saying is there.
You can say it.
They're brainwashed into, you know, they're like in a matrix.
You dig into it like the ancients did.
They're their techniques and start critically thinking instead of being an assumption thinker.
Then you'll start seeing the truth.
Seeing what made your matrix.
You've got to get out of that.
We typically ask our guests what their thoughts are on Bigfoot.
But how does Bigfoot fit into this?
Have you, you have any thoughts about that creature?
And is it part, Nephilim, is it related to these beings that build the mounds?
Well, and Melba catch runs away from you.
Before we get into this next part, I just want to preface this with.
Luke and I had no idea that Roger also had some Bigfoot activity on its property.
This all came out right at the end.
We're wrapping up this interview.
We're talking about giants and giant mounds.
And we forgot to ask our quintessential question.
and Roger begins to describe what you're about to hear and quite frankly caught us off guard.
After the episode, Luke and I had a conversation, and we just felt like we wanted to preface this with,
you know, I've been talking to Roger all month, several phone calls, getting to know him,
and none of his Bigfoot activity came out in those conversations.
And so I think that helps lend some credibility to what he's about to tell you.
And I just want you to listen with an open mind and allow yourself to hear his story.
before you jump to conclusions.
But just understand that Luke and I didn't know.
Roger's story went this deep.
You're cleaning out your barn.
Yep.
And you've got three bigfoot there.
Yeah, they like the little one.
So you have them, you have them named.
Well, it's never kind of my,
but the rice lakers wanted, they love horses.
So one night, Becca and her mother, Rebecca,
was doing this vocal singing,
and it was just beautiful.
I had my window open.
And after that, they seemed to make contact.
So then they were...
And at night, one time I was in the garden here.
And Beck was sitting on the sun inside of the vegetation commands to the horses.
Cherokee'd come home and stand in front of it, like a war horse stance.
And Doc would be prancing around like a show horse.
So I figured I was going to get in on the party there.
Push me away with her nose.
pushed me back
Doc came around
and got in front
to push them
on her way
nope
they wouldn't punch
they didn't want me
to get close to Becca
we were protecting her
so your horses
were being commanded
by these Bigfoot
to keep you at a distance
yeah
white becker
yeah
they'll protect him
and white diamond
a little one
or more likely riding them
he's a junior
and probably
not even Rebecker
could be on them
this is fascinating
I have to say, like, it's hard for a lot of people to hear these stories because they just, their minds are not ready for it.
I've heard so many crazy Bigfoot stories that I, that I've heard this.
Not only do Bigfoot braid hair of horses, but I've heard they take horses out on joy rides all the time.
There's an obsession.
We actually interviewed a girl who listens to our show, and she was talking about the phenomenon with her horses, Luke, and Bigfoot showing up and going away.
So back up a little bit because you just dove right into the deep.
deep end of this story and caught me off guard a little bit. How long is this Bigfoot activity going on?
What's your first encounter with these creatures? And how well do you get a, do you get a great,
a good look at them? Or is it just kind of at a distance, it sounds like?
Yeah. Well, I think at the lakes too, well, I've seen back many, many times in the white diamond.
At night, I talked them off the deck. You could see the white diamond on white diamond.
What do you mean white diamond?
Well, they're black, but the one had a diamond-shaped white.
Is it like a family structure, you think?
Is it like a male and then his kids?
No, no.
There's not it just don't.
We've got some up north here that are white.
Yeah.
There's a popular Bigfoot video of a white one that these guys come in the middle of the night.
So you see six of them.
They come, I mean, what was their first encounter?
Did you freak out, or did you have any prior knowledge of these things?
Well, I knew somewhat about them, but.
When I first discovered them, they were here before.
We could hear them growing different stuff, and I thought it was wolves.
See, when the horses were scared, I thought it was wolves out there,
so it carried a gun around and whatever.
But then when Lewstein or Cub got killed,
that's a bearer, local black bear when we got here,
she was being ripped up down in the wild rice gorge.
I was going to go down there and help get my gun.
Bulls bleed them, you know.
So that was, I started to think there's something different going on here.
And that's when I started in Rice Lakers because they, uh, winter up at Rice.
Rice Lakers.
Bob, a friend of mine, he can tell us track with maps and use two pieces of paper and
someone to talk to you about Bob, too.
So you've been out here quite a few times.
Yeah.
Well, how often do you see these creatures real quick?
Like, how often do they come around?
The horses are, we had to put dock down.
It's been attacked by a different entity.
What happened there?
Sorry, I was just going to say, I just want to make sure I, I'm tracking with you.
you think these entities and these cryptic creatures are coming to your property because of
the mounds and it's either drawing them in or the deep state is sending them these entities
because they don't want this truth and then so you had a family of bigfoot living on your farm
and then you said there was a fight between the bigfoot and some other cryptic creatures yeah
see i was walking i was trying to get a look at these guys see when these things hit
out of this protection. After that, I didn't realize it for a day or two.
For these things, it's like an ancient...
Like the Egyptian God thing they had with the crocodile head on the body?
They got 3D, and they tried to get in to God's universe.
Our last guest, literally the last episode, he said he was in a canoe with his buddy on the side of this.
And the Bigfoot said there was a tragedy in the forest, remember Luke?
Yeah.
And it was asking this guy for help.
And it said that Bigfoot got the blame, but it wasn't them.
it was something else.
That's exactly what I'm thinking.
Is there like a war going on?
And our previous guest just talked about this.
Yep.
He's exactly right.
And the big foot,
the rice acres get blamed for everything,
but you've got the board caught filter.
And no already's ever seen them,
because if you see them,
it'll be a split second
if you're going to be in their jaws.
You're never to tell their story.
This is how wicked these things are powerful.
Is this why people are going,
disappearing in the first?
forest and state parks? Or is it these things?
I would be. Yeah, I don't, many different things out here out there.
And this is the worst. This was the big guns they sent in.
Roger, this stuff, you said, is coming through the egg on the serpent mound.
So you, it's crazy. You end up buying a property to move back close to where your wife grew up,
and you know buying a property that not only has a serpent mound and giants buried,
but that's got a portal.
Yeah.
Man.
Yeah, it's in the egg.
Yeah, I know.
wild, man. Yeah, I lived here 10 years, but I think I aged a couple more than that.
Yeah.
But, yeah. And then I went to the energy, and there's a portal there, and definitely, and you're
going to check that out. That's where all the energy was coming, you know, with the rod
taken off like helicopters. Yeah. And with the crosses and the prayers and everything, it's
calmed down. I have to ask, I mean, obviously we've developed a little bit of a relationship,
friendship,
friendship going.
This is hard for a lot of people to hear.
That's why I haven't told anybody.
Yeah.
And I appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Wow.
I mean, I believe you.
I believe that this information is heavy.
And I'm just trying to help people out there listening because people don't,
they don't know how to handle the out-of-left-field stuff.
And I've heard a lot of it.
And I think I can connect the dots.
That's what I love to do.
I love to connecting.
dots and I remember the stories and I'm hearing parts of your story and it's it's bringing
flashbacks to other Bigfoot stories I've heard and I just don't want people to tune out.
I don't want people to check out and go, this is nuts.
I can't handle this.
And a lot of people are, Luke, are trying to advocate on Bigfoot's behalf that they're not
mean and aggressive, right?
No, the two DNA in there is good.
Yeah, I mean.
I have no friends with them.
I mean, he said, Jr. would be laying by mound one with his hands across.
They'd like to land their stomach and look.
And I'd walk right by him.
We'd make eye contact.
And he's looking across the valley.
Wow.
What do they look like?
Well, they look.
They got, they're not really hairy on the face too much.
They got wide noses.
I don't know how to explain it.
They look like a cross between a human and a primate.
which they are.
I had no issues.
At first they came
a whole hell down for leather.
You know, they're working for the deep state.
They showed them no fear
and showed them respect
and talked with them.
And then we became friends.
Our horses,
and they'd cut off a piece of tail hair.
And they'd cut off,
the scissors in the barn,
they'd cut off on the tail,
they'd braided it into the main.
That braid would go down to the ground.
Yeah, and then the horse people,
they said,
the wind did that.
Well, I wasn't willing to make hair grow down to the ground.
Oh, geez.
So, Luke, our first guest on our show was this guy at Duke Solomon, and he told the story
about how Bigfoot might be henchmen for the Giants.
I mean, that's kind of what you're describing, right?
Like, Bigfoot's getting pushed around by these other entities.
He blew the wheels off our show right from the get-go.
Is that what you're describing?
Well, I'm describing.
got two DNA that are good
trapped in there. This is a
raphaeim,
just like the giants.
Raphaeim. Nephilim is
actually, to me, is the fallen angels.
And maybe their first
generation of 50-50 DNA.
But the rest of it
is like a raphaeim.
Yeah, they've been all tweaked,
you know.
And, uh, well, what else can I say?
You know?
You don't need to say anything else.
This is fantastic. I mean, fantastic story.
And I looked up the boar crock you were talking about.
Caprosucas.
It was a 20-foot prehistoric crocodile that just looked, I mean, nasty.
I mean, nasty looking thing.
Nasty.
Nasty.
Yeah.
And the biggest one out here was 37 feet.
It's like Captain Hook.
We see in Peter Pan there, the giant crocodile coming to take off your hand.
How are we not seeing evidence of these beasts?
This is my theory, no.
I don't know what they did to me.
And they're just,
the Rice Lakers doesn't have a chant until finally got the proper words.
They had to battle these things.
So how long do you have a relationship with these Bigfoot before the battle?
Like, how long is this going on?
I picked up on them in about 2012.
And the battle was a couple years ago.
Yeah, it wasn't good.
So about five or six years you're interacting with them.
Yeah.
Are they showing themselves a little bit more?
to you every time you're seeing them?
Oh, yeah, as I did, yeah.
Yeah, Becca would sit, I turned them on to rhubarb.
You got a rhubarb patch, so they'd be picking rhubarb,
and I'd break the tops off and put them all five feet over by Becca.
She just froze and looked, you know, they freeze.
And then I went back to picking rhubarb again, looking on her to corner of my eye,
and she looked at the rhubarb, and then she looked at me.
You could almost know what she's thinking, like, what are you up to her out here, you know?
So I took a bite on her to the rhubarb.
And ever since that time, I haven't had any rhubarb anymore.
And every time it comes up so far, they eat the rhubarb up.
Yeah, rhub pie.
They love that stuff.
Are they putting thoughts?
How do they communicate?
Are they, a lot of people say that Bigfoot can mind speak to you.
They can put.
Is that how they're communicating with you?
Yeah, well, back and forth.
Like when Becca
shimmied up to light pole
And unscrewed the light bulb
Wanted to be with her horses
In the dark
She didn't want anybody to see her
She came up to my window
And she goes, Roger
So I thought
Something was wrong with my wife or something
I was dead asleep, you know
So she's okay
So I thought I just
So I get back in bed
And she goes, Roger
So I get
I look how out it's dark
and I knew exactly.
She was bragging that she got up there.
So we didn't carry on the conversation
because we knew what each other
were kind of thinking there.
She was showing up.
It's kind of like that.
You can kind of feel what they're thinking.
So you don't hear audible voices.
It's just you can feel it.
Oh, yeah.
Their regular talk is like a Hunnic, Chinese-type chatter.
Samurai.
That's a samurai talk, right?
Yeah.
Well, they're chattering to each other too.
Yeah.
So you're on your farm, you're having these experiences and then multiple Bigfoot come over,
and then they're talking to each other in front of you, but then they can communicate to you directly.
Yeah, sort of, just like that.
You know, I'm Beckler's trying to get her point across, and without us even carrying out on the conversation,
I knew what she was getting out.
Because of that, and they didn't know the same thing, too.
I'm sure she'd make what my...
Yeah.
And we've heard these stories.
many elderly ladies actually
developing relationships
with these creatures
and then having a similar relationship
like you're describing
where they come in the house
their kids
that's like
a long lost family members
right
I mean have you talked to anybody about this
or is it just
you can't talk to people
Well I try to keep it quiet
until Bob
I told a few close friends
but everything seems to get up
so all that's point talking about
Yeah, that's why I'm talking to you.
The cat's out of debate.
Yeah, yeah.
I can't even tell my friends I believe in Bigfoot without them rolling their eyes and making fun of me.
And you're describing things.
I mean, I feel like I could talk to you for another 10 hours about this.
It's fascinating.
I mean, you're having encounters that people dream about.
So many Bigfoot hunters.
Yeah.
They'll show themselves to you.
They're not going to show them, and you'll be able to make contact and so forth with them.
Can they disappear?
Like a lot of people describe Bigfoot as being able to disappear?
You know, I think they do have that ability.
I, you know, I can't say for sure.
I was in the yard, and I was listening to this tree snapping.
And one of the higher branches, it wasn't windy or nothing,
was like it was forced down and broke off.
And there was nothing there.
I couldn't see anything.
But it could have been east of senior and he was invisible,
but the hall to dead branch
you could see what's forced
down, I was watching
to the point where there's nothing there.
Roger, do you think there's a connection
between all this activity
and the fact that there's that serpent mound
and the giants buried there and the portal?
Do you think all the stuff is interconnected?
Teenagers of the kids, so they were enjoying that
and knew what that. We don't sit on have
not yet. Well,
my main
friends, Becca, gone.
She sings to you.
See, they can only.
beer is long.
So how many Bigfoot are left?
Just three.
Just three.
You saw, he's a junior.
And did you name them or is that their names?
No, I named them.
Okay.
So you were mentioning other, like, Dog Man, other cryptids that come around.
Yeah, those clones came in that Dog Man.
You can see, how to Hudson talked to the energy.
He was in Dan's camper.
I just want to, I just feel like I'm, I've been looking for.
for gold my whole life and I just stumbled in a creek
and there's just thousands of nuggets everywhere.
I don't even know where to start.
Right, Luke?
I mean, I have so many questions.
Somebody.
Well, first we talked about a dog man episode
where he was climbing on someone's roof.
You saw this or you just know he was there?
No, I saw him.
Slythering around out here.
He was right by my car.
Red eyes.
Roger, thank you for, I just want to say thanks.
It's hard.
It's hard.
It's hard to share the stuff.
And I just appreciate you being willing to, you know,
say these things to us.
Oh, thanks for having me.
See, God wants me to get the truth out about this stuff,
and I got no avenues to do it.
And, in fact, my wife had enough of this stuff out here.
We bought a little house in town,
so she spends most of the time there.
And I'm here holding the fort.
Yeah, it sounds like you've got just a circus out there.
Oh, man.
Yeah, what a gee.
You know, when she heard the death roll, that was it.
She wouldn't stay out here alone even, you know, it's terrified.
Understandably so, yeah.
Let me just go back and recount here.
You've got Dogman, Bigfoot, Bork, and you've got Skinwalkers.
And what else, is there anything else that's messing with you?
Well, the reason I put the game cam up and got a picture of that UFO is because we've been seen Thunderbirds,
It's a great big 18-foot wingspan.
So we're trying to get a picture of them and see what the heck they're all about.
That's crazy.
We got Leroy up by Park River.
He brought my attention to them.
They've been seeing the big blackbirds.
So then I started seeing them too.
He's got big foot activity.
The ones up in Alaska, they get really big.
And the younger ones got to come down because they're territorial.
I've seen two of them fighting up in the sky.
So apparently there appears coming in.
So you have, let's just describe, let's just, let me try to paint a picture of myself and our listeners.
You've got this serpent mount on your property.
You've got this egg and you've got this energy collector underground.
And you have UFO activity around it.
You have a family of Bigfoot coming in and being around it.
You make friends with these creatures.
They're partial to your horses.
And then dog man, other things start coming.
and there's a war going on.
Is this war going on everywhere,
or is it just near certain energy collectors or mounds?
I can old Rice Lakers dogman and Croc came and he put that and they couldn't get in.
There's no photo of the boar croc.
No, no.
I tried to have the game camera out,
and the original pictures, there's three of them down in the pool.
That's where they would go to see what they looked like
But they came up, put it on the computer
And I could see them originally
I put them back down trying to figure out
Get them printed off on the paper
So the next day or two it came back up
They were photoshoped like they were blurred out
Wow
Blurry creatures
Yeah right through the electronic
Satan owns electronics too apparently
Yeah I don't know
I've been hit by everything
Why do you think that is?
Do you think it's because you're just in the hot spot, or do you think that you figure out a way to communicate with these entities and your threat?
I think it's because the knowledge of the energy collector and the serpent mound and the mounds and who these big guys were.
And how they originated.
Mation Hall, because I want you to believe in evolution, that these things won't exist.
That's exactly what's going on.
Yeah, you got too close.
You got too close to the knowledge and into the truth.
And look, I mean, you discovered the big guys.
It sounds like they don't want anything getting out.
I don't know what you talking about it.
Exactly.
See, I went to energy and asked, does Heavenly Father?
Right.
Soldier on, my friend.
Soldier on.
Yeah, it's something else.
I have one last question, like, with the Bigfoot.
And we'll have to have you back on.
Roger.
Yeah, we've got to unwrap some of this stuff
in a, we're not
hijacking you from your wife and everybody else.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, we can do that.
There's so much to cover.
It's hard to detail everything across the board.
Right.
It'd be good to segment it out and start talking about
particular things and just stay in those,
in those lanes.
Yeah, there's a ton here, huh?
Yeah.
Yeah.
My last question, just to kind of leave a little,
I guess, taste,
and for part two.
What was the longest,
your longest interaction
with the Bigfoot creatures?
Rubarb,
so it would prop.
And how close are you to,
to her?
To her, probably 50 feet.
She was just inside the word,
no,
see her silhouette.
Yeah, you can't hardly see their faces
even when they're close.
It's like it's all black.
And it's hard to make all it
under the light.
I don't know what deal is,
but uh yeah roger i mean roger this has been great it's fantastic thank you we want we want to come
look in your in your giant in your separate man and see what's in there though Nate especially
wants to look for yeah you think somebody be little people in there little people we did that
didn't come up yeah yeah i didn't see any of them out here but not yet but we can dig the energy
clerk up and figure that out how that works that would be interesting that would be interesting
Yeah, tapping into the gods lay line.
That's right.
Sucking energy out of it.
That would be a diamond.
Nate's got red hair and a red beard, so he's already like, you know, halfway to looking like a giant.
So, you know, maybe he's...
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, they'd probably not even notice he was there.
Yeah.
There you go.
Yeah.
Well, Roger, we can't thank you enough for this, for your time and for, and for telling us, you know, about the things that are going on on your property.
the things you discovered.
I mean, this has been amazing.
Yeah.
Well, I appreciate it because it's what God wants me to do.
And I can't leave this place until we get this job done.
We would like to keep you around for a while, too, though.
So maybe there's a happy medium there.
Well, I appreciate that.
That means that we're on the side.
We're on the good side, Luke.
We're not.
Right.
We're rowing that boat in the same direction.
Yeah.
Exactly.
We're all together trying to figure this out.
And that's kind of why we started blurry creatures was to try to get some of this stuff out to you.
out to people listening.
It gets interesting.
I've heard some of these stories
where people have more than just
a sighting, like, relationships.
And I've always wondered,
there's got to be more
than people out there
that have these relationships.
One more thing.
Since I've been out here,
I developed a stutter
and my eye blinks.
You know,
went through a lot of stuff,
in other words.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
You've got some extra years
and extra mileage on there.
Exactly.
I mean, you got
you got 1.21 gigawatts right underneath your feet, you know?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'd sure like to figure that out, that energy collector.
That's amazing.
Right, right, right.
That's our nerdy 80s reference.
We're going to have you back on, Roger.
I want to keep diving into all these crypted creatures
because that's what we're trying to make sense of on this show.
Not only did you have, man, you have, I can't even begin to tell you how thankful I am.
You shared some of this stuff because for the last 10 years,
I've been wondering about a lot of this stuff,
and you don't get any answers because people don't have...
No.
I think a lot of people just don't put the Bible or their faith into this story,
and so they're just, right, Luke, they're just drawn, grasping straws.
They don't have any solid, like, what is this stuff?
What are these beings, right?
Yeah, those type of people will have to be told what to think.
they don't trust their own thinking you know you know what i mean if they see something
let's say they see a big foot and they'll brush it off and let's say oh it's a walking mirror
you know what i mean push things off to what what they are comfortable with that's some
of the two there you know or they just call it paranormal activity and they don't they don't
ask what what's the origin of that right uh yeah what is this like
Leroy's buddies
up there, they got a cabin by
by Park River
Gorge by the river.
And they're sitting out one night
and they've seen these
orange bubbles
energy coming up.
Well, then they come off and they
don't know what it is.
But they took the rods over and they took
the goss meter over there and that
so there's something going on there too
and they got a lot of earthworks up that way too.
So if you get tapped into a lot of these
people, there's a lot of things going on guys.
Sounds like a five-parter.
Luke, we're going to have to get into this one because there's a lot here.
We always got, and I have to say this.
I have to preface this to everyone listening.
Like, Roger, we didn't know this part of your story.
Like, we had no idea this was a part of your story.
We were just going to talk about giants, and you discovered the giant skeleton.
Yeah, there's nothing about what went on out here.
And what's going on with Earth and World.
ramp doesn't have trees on it and it doesn't erode energy collector serpent mom underbirds my buddy's
race lakers and all these other things that we're out here yeah it's been a quite an experience
for the last 10 years of my life i can i can imagine and i think a lot of people listening some
people you know they're highly skeptical they've been brainwashed their whole life and they hear stuff like
this and they're just knee-jerk reactions like these guys made this up are they
This guy is being paid money to tell this story.
And we had no, Luke and I had no idea that you had this big foot activity on your property.
We were just going to talk about the giant bones.
And so I'm just speaking to the skeptics right now who are scratching their heads.
Yeah, yeah.
This is generosity on your end, just tell us your story.
And we're just appreciative of that.
And I know you can't convince people of, if you tell your story, some people just don't believe it.
It doesn't matter what you say, right?
They're not going to
Right.
Right.
So they experience it themselves.
It's like a great awakening that's going on now that we're being shown all this corruption and stuff.
You know, I don't know if he get into that or not.
You try, but him to get one stars.
Yeah.
Biden, he does know what I don't have.
But, yeah.
Two different type of people.
People that want to know and people that don't want to know.
