Blurry Creatures - EP: 322 Singularity with Dr. Laura Sanger

Episode Date: April 29, 2025

What happens when humanity tries to outpace its Creator? Dr. Laura Sanger returns to Blurry Creatures to tackle the looming reality of the singularity—the fusion of man and machine. From transhumanism to the spiritual war behind artificial intelligence, Dr. Sanger unpacks the ancient agenda hidden beneath modern tech. Is the singularity just science fiction, or is it the next step in a centuries-old plan to dehumanize the image-bearers of God? Tune in as we uncover the intersection of prophecy, quantum theory, and the war for your humanity. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Luke's so often, people email us, and they have this story, they're out in their woods, and they're looking in the bushes, and they go, what's that? And when you are pouring your dog food and your dog's bowl, that's the last thing you want to say, what is that? What is the stuff coming out of this bag? You know, I don't think a lot of us think about maybe what we feed our dogs, and that's why we partner with rough greens. Most of us would love to have our dogs, you know, live as long as possible. I just lost my dog in December. And I would have just, I would have loved more time with Carl. And one of the things you, can do to get more time with your dog is to feed them better. Dog owners don't usually realize that

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could lose jobs to AI. The history of our Earth is so different from what we can imagine. The Smithsonian that if they found out about large skeleton somewhere was to go get it. I'm going to assume at least one person is right. Because if one person's right, it bust the paradigm. It all goes back to the fallen chair. And the problem with the modern day church, they have a very truncated view of the supernatural. view of the supernatural.

This backdrop that's just pregnant with all kinds of meaning associated with this Mount Herman event. And this guy defects from the kingdom. That's a big deal. All right. We're back here in the blurry basements with Dr. Laura Sanger. And over the years, we've become closer and closer and developed a friendship with you. And for those who don't know, this is the first time you're tuning in.

you're author and speaker and you know you've been to our conferences and you're traveling all over and very busy lady very busy lady and uh we're talking about the hive mind today so welcome back to blurry creatures and i know you're you're ready to go if you know anything about dr laura she's prepared she's five minutes early and uh she's ready more than that we were yeah we were five minutes early which is what we do typically yeah she was 10 minutes early but you're always prepared and so what do you have prepared for our listeners? us today. Welcome back to Blurry Creatures. Thank you, first of all, for having me here. And I have to say, I mean, I cannot start without commenting about your studio. So little story from my childhood.

Here we go. So in the 80s, I was, let's see, I was in middle school and high school, graduated high school 86. So this is like, so you were 80s in it. I was full on 80s when I, so I was, I played basketball in high school. Well, I played number of different sports. but during the basketball halftime, some of the girls taught me how to do my bangs. I wish you had like pictures of the bangs in the 80s, but I literally like would tease my bangs and they would go up like this and they would call me quail because of how big my bangs were. Like nicely call you quail or was it more? I don't know.

I took it as a kind of a compliment. I don't know. And that's how you got Tom. That's the short story, right? I remember those quail bangs are really doing it. My sister was eight years older than me, so I remember her driving me to school when I was eight years old, and this was 1988. And it was the height of the 80s, and her and her friends, it was like Bang City in that car.

Aquinette and Bang. Yes. And I remember one night she took me, they would go cruising the strip or whatever, and she had this horribly ugly car. And my parents were out of town, and it was like five. girls in this Chevy I don't even know what the same was like a no it's a Dodge Aspen it was ugly it was ugly as any car ever

and it was like me and like five teenage girls and every time they would drive by a car with a bunch of dudes they would shove me under the dash and I'd ever like I'd be on the ground I'd be like I do not like high school girls this is the worst experience but so anyway that's my story of the 80s and I haven't heard that one yeah I like that Thanks Dr. Laura to get the good stuff out. There was a lot of bangs and it was, yeah. I brought up a traumatic memory for you, didn't I?

No, it was fun. I cut my teeth on. Don't let anybody see you, Nate. I was going to ruin it for us. I was the only eight-year-old cruising the strip that night. And I learned a lot. And that's the inspiration here at Blurry. That's why we took this 80s to the next level.

Okay, so I have to tell one more story at least. Yes. Because this is just like all coming back. So I was probably in middle school. and my parents both work. So during the summers, I had a friend. Her name was Sherry Greenfield. And she owned an Atari set.

And so all summer we would play like asteroids or defender. Now, I'm going to date myself. I don't know why I'm doing this to myself. But I remember Pong, like the very first video game with, you know, the lines and the little balls that go back and forth. But I just remember summers playing the. Atari cartridges and that was... Well, we had an Atari as kids, like at some point, I think it was probably 10 or 12, and it was my dad had found it in stuff.

And I remember that it was Pong. And then there was like a hockey game, which I used to just pong, but they just changed the shape of the ball to like a puck. So you just sort of like went up and down, play it. And I was like, this is not that cool. It's crazy the explosion went from like horrible. And then by the, by 1989, we had Game Boy. We were holding the video games in our hands.

fans and just in the decade, you know. Yeah. The technology just changed so fast. But sometimes I design like our episode art with some of those like old Atari cartridges. I'm like, I think this is way too past. I don't even think our 80s kids even remember these, these. We had a Commodore 64 as well. Do you remember those?

I remember Colico. They had a Colico vision. Remember that one? It was like a computer. We had a joystick for it. And my grandpa got us a flight simulator. He was a pilot in World War II. So he bought us this flight simulator.

And it was the most impossible game to play. All he did was crash. I could barely get off the ground. I did that crash. And I remember being like, have you, thanks grandpa. Have you guys seen the documentary King of Kong?

I haven't. It's about the world champion donkey Kong player, players. Oh, wow. And these two guys go head to head. And this autistic guy is like the world, he's like the upcoming champion. And he's going head to head with this other guy who's like a fake. And they think his scores are fake.

it's really fascinating. It's one of my favorite documentaries, but they break down how complicated Donkey Kong is. It's almost impossible. It's like these computer algorithms that you have to do perfectly to get to the end and fight it. And there's nothing more, it's just not the same world that we grew up in. Like these are, it almost has to be a computer to beat the game. And it was fascinating. And I was just like, man, those games were so hard. They were impossible. And it was just an era and we needed something to kind of market the show. And so we kind of, we took the 80s theme and we kind of went a little overboard. Actually, at one point, the studio, our studio owner was like, no more. You can't bring anything else in here. And he's like, I just got a bunch of stuff that landed

on my porch yesterday. He's like, no more. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The original Apple computer and some other things are still sitting in my basement in my basement. In my basement. I have a, I have a basement. I think my house is from the 50s. But hey, who's counting, but we're here to talk about mind control today. Thank you for taking us back. And we have fun here. And I think we'd sometimes people are like, just get to the, just get to the meat and potatoes. But it's like, you, you know, when people come on your show a lot, you develop friendship and you talk more candidly. And so it's fun to get into that. And I know that you got a lot to say. So where do we begin? I do. Well, and I think, you know, your point being that, you know, computers have advanced so quickly in the last, even 10 years.

And so to think about like where things are headed, which I'll talk about with the hive mind, I think it's important to keep it in context as well. So one of the things like I, you know me, I go deep. And some of the things that I talk about are heavy. And so today I wanted to kind of bookmark both ends with some hope because, you know, as we talk about this hive mind stuff, I mean, it, it blows my mind, you know, doing the research and reading it. my friend Mitchell Floren, he's the scientist guy that gives me all sorts of, you know, documents and articles. He's like, you have got to talk about the hive mind. Here we go. People don't understand.

And so with that, what I want to do first is just communicate something that I've shared, you know, on our podcast interviews before. And that is there's always a way out of the dark caverns of mind control. And that's one of the beautiful things about how God designed our bodies. and he gave us neuroplasticity, our brains, and that means that our brains are malleable and adaptable. And that's really good news. And we see this in Romans 12 too. You know, it talks about do not conform to the patterns of this world,

but be transformed by the renewing of your mind so that you can test and approve what God's will is, his good, pleasing, and perfect will. And so when you think about, okay, what does it mean to renew our minds? I think about, you know, reconstructing. or renovating like a home. And when you look at the Greek word for renew, it's anachinosis.

And it means not only to renovate, but it means a complete change for the better. And so I think about, you know, we're talking about 80s homes, for example. So if you moved into a home that was built in the 80s and there was nothing done to it and it was, you know, still in the same condition, you're going to want to move in, pull up some carpet, you know, redo the appliances. maybe, you know, redo the kitchen, that sort of thing. Take down the wood paneling walls. The wood paneling. Or, you know, maybe put a coat of paint on them. I don't know.

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ends June 30th terms at AKA.m.m.S. College PC. But the idea is we need to think about that in context of our mind as well, because we can hold on to things from our past. We can hold on to, you know, false doctrine that I've talked about before or, you know, just woundedness or offense. And what that does is that causes things to break apart, break down. And so we want to be able to renew our mind. We want to come in and, you know, get rid of those old things and renew our mind according to the mind of Christ. And so, you know, thinking about even the root word of renew is a knock a knock I know. And it means not only a complete change for the better, but it means to cause to grow up.

It means to make new. And it means to go from your old life, your old corrupt life into a new life. And that's what Jesus does for us. So I wanted to just kind of have us keep that in mind as we dive into some of this stuff about the hive mind. And this is obviously blurry creatures. So we get into the weirdest parts of talking about these subjects and topics, whether it's MK Ultra to mind control to, you know, spells, curses, whatever you want to, you know, we can get, we go into those weeds and try to make sense of these things. Whereas it's, you know, so you can get as weird as you want today. You know that.

But sometimes people don't know, like, how's this blurry? You know, what does the hive mind have to do with all these other subjects that you guys talk about? And so I'm excited to get into like the harder, deeper elements of how we are sort of sheep being sort of corralled into a corner to think the same. Right. And they do that with a lot of manipulative tactics that are blurry. that we talk about here. I like what you said to start that way because I think the flip side of mind control

of these mind control programming of programming is that we can actually program our minds to be like the mind of Christ. There's two sides of the coin. We can be influenced and controlled as humans based upon mind control tactics we've talked about with you. I've talked about with our friend Josh Nadeau.

Talked about a few different episodes, but we can also flip that coin. And I know you probably get to that, but I think that's the hope is that we can be controlled, but we can also break out of the matrix, and we can renew our mind. And we can, the scriptures talk about the mind of Christ, that we're supposed to get to that point. And I'm not going to read ahead, but I don't want to. But I just like that we start there because I think in all of the darkness, it's like Ephesians 511, right? It's not to participate in the things of darkness, but rather to expose them. And this is part of that. This is part of the coming darkness as well,

we sort of advance with AI and technology. We're moving towards a point where it is total control. It's the Nephlim agenda. We've talked about with you a number of times. It's enslavement, whether it be the Federal Reserve, which we'll talk about at the end of the episode, or it's a slow burn to that point, right? So where do we start with the hive mind, Laura?

Well, I think what you guys are saying is so important, and that is this is part of the Nephilim agenda. You know, you think about they, they want to defile our human genome. And so one way is if we merge with AI, then we lose that part of our humanity. And so this is definitely part of that. So a good place to start is really understanding, first of all, I want to talk about graphene oxide because it actually plays a really important role in leading us to the hive mind. And, you know, graphene oxide is in all sorts of products, pharmaceuticals.

They've figured out ways to inject it into our food. It can be aerosolized, which means it can be sprayed on us, all of that stuff. And so what happens, first of all, graphene is like this wonder substance because it's like a single layer of carbon and it's one atom thick. and it forms like these repeated patterns of hexagons. But what's amazing about it is it's 200 times stronger than steel and a thousand times more conductive than copper. And so what you have is it's like it's super thin, it's flexible, and that makes it, you know, a really good candidate for some of these biomedical advances like, you know, drug delivery

or tissue engineering, even, you know, creating these neuro wires that I'll talk about in a moment and also brain implants. So with graphene oxide, now think about it can be in all sorts of substances. Well, once it gets in us, it's been shown to be able to cross the blood brain barrier. Now, what that does is then it means that it can become what's called a neuromorphic memorister. Now that's a big term. Mitchell taught me that. And what it is essentially is neuromorphic means that it can self-assemble and it can self-assemble into these nanowires that form like brain synapses. So essentially it's like these little tiny nanobots that are inside of our body. And so when that happens, essentially you have like this memorister then it can save and process

information. It also can take in new information, which means it can learn. So graphene oxide can actually embed thoughts into our brain. And we might get there a little bit later talking about more of the blurrier stuff with the occult. More of the blurrier stuff? I felt like I prepared our listeners pretty well for the shoe to drop. And you just dropped a big one. So I love it.

I love that you can go even more blurrier with this. Yeah. I love that. And it's, you know, it's important to recognize that when this stuff gets inside of us, like I said, you know, it can embed thoughts into our brain. Now, are they spraying it on us, you think? I can't prove that, but I think that. It seems, though, like, you know,

everyone's kind of blowing the whistle about, what are they spraying in the air all the time? And I just wonder if that's... It's injectables, too. I know some of the things I've read is it's in a lot of pseudo-medical injectables. It just would be a big task in my mind to pull that off, and it does seem bizarre. but there has to be like an ultimate goal to do all this work,

to fly all these planes, to spray all the stuff, if it's actually happening. Lord, a question about this, does it, does it, as you say, self-assembled, does it do that by, like, organically, or is it sort of programmed in that sense? If you say nanobots, I mean, just so I can understand, like, if it's able to cross the blood-brain barrier and end up in our brains,

is it then programmed to assemble, or does it sort of naturally? I think it's programmed. And so, you know, as you think about like the advancement of both nanotechnology and AI, essentially what scientists are wanting to do is they want to create a global superbrain through the use of these nanobots. And so, you know, in 2019, there were scientists from the cloud-based supercomputer, well, the human brain cloud interface.

And the scientists, what they did is they were using. nanobots and they discovered that these nanobots, not only like when they're injected into us, they can navigate our human vascular. And then they get up into our brain. They cross that blood brain barrier. And then from there, they know how to auto position themselves precisely within and among our brain cells. And so then from there, you know, you've got these little nanobots in brain cells and then they wirelessly transmit encoded information to and from these cloud-based supercomputer networks. And essentially, that's for real-time brain state monitoring and data extraction. And so what these scientists are trying to do is they're trying to connect

a network of human brains with AI to form this hive mind. And so the idea, well, they pitch it to us, right, on the surface is like, here's the way for you to monitor your health. So you can find out you have cancer before you would ever know you have cancer. You can find out that you have a blood disorder, or you have a pregnancy for obesity. So that's pitched to us as like, here's a way to, you know, to, you can self-monitor. It's better than your Apple watch, Nate. It's, it's in your brain, right? Well, it's wild because, I mean, we, you know, obviously we kicked the show off,

talking about 80s memories, but this is like a plot of an 80s movie, you know, like your thoughts, you're going to go to jail just thinking something. You know, and there's this whole futuristic world that a lot of these movies kind of created that, you know, you're not your own person. You can't even have a thought without getting in trouble. And it's kind of a weird future. We're on the cusp of this. This is coming in not decades, but we're talking months, years.

It's here. And the technology is almost inventing itself now. So if it's transmitting, I think the idea that it was also receiving, right? So that's maybe more terrifying than even just sending information about your biology to somewhere. but also you can receive. Right. So, I mean, what is... How do we resist this?

I mean, so with the hive mind, the goal is what, is to connect consciousness from everyone? And to what purpose? I mean, I guess are they at least selling us or what do you believe is actually the truth? Like, we're the supercomputer that they want. Right. And they want to, like, suck energy from us. They want to control us. They want to dictate, you know, what we do.

So, you know, you think about, like, quantum computers and combined, that with AI. There's a biophysicist. His name is Douglas Yvonne. And I read, he had a pretty lengthy article on the hive mind and where it's headed. But I thought it was really eye-opening. And so he describes, I'll read a quote from him, he describes the quantum hive mind as an interconnected network where individuals experience shared consciousness and engaged with collective archetypal symbols. So the hive mind would foster a collaborative space where individuals access each other's knowledge and insights, developing and involving collective intelligence and redefining notions of identity,

connection, and meaning. So at the core of this quantum hive mind is actually Carl Young's theory on collective consciousness and archetypes. And so Young, how he described archetypes, is they're not just a symbol or recurring motif? What he said, is there are these primordial patterns that are deeply ingrained in the collective consciousness of humanity. So then you think about, you know, this quantum computing, this quantum hive mind, what it does is it combines these architects or these archetypes with the hive mind such that, you know, people can intuitively know each other's thoughts, feelings, emotions. So it's not just simply sharing thoughts. It is like my knowing exactly what Nate is thinking right now as he is looking at me, like in real time. And that's frightening when you think about the boundaries that that crosses.

And so, you know, one of the things that with quantum computing, I mean, this blows my mind. We were just talking about. I was thinking about your bangs, but don't tell anybody. I like our bangs. I could just see him there now. I can't unsee them. I could send you a picture. You would laugh.

I mean, imagine how distracted we would be. Sure. How would we get anything done? We made this reference. You know, maybe they were programming us with what women want by Mel Gibson when you get here all the women's thoughts. Remember that movie?

No. I don't. Oh, man. It's not worth remembering, but he hears the thoughts of everyone around them. Well, I mean, and use it to manipulate women, which is ultimately in,

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They know, okay, this person can astral project. We're going to use that person. and send them out for our own mission or whatever. So I think that's why we started this podcast was to have the conversation behind the conversation, right? We can have the spiritual church conversation, but we want to go all the way past that and really get into the mechanism of the nephalum agenda

and how you can say, okay, they did hybrids and they did mess with the human genome, but is there a bigger, greater nefarious purpose to unite all of humanity? Is this kind of a modern Tower of Babel event? Is that what's happening? So it's a combination of quantum computing, nanobots, so nanotechnology, and AI. And AI, is that the unholy trinity they're using for, you believe, for this? Oh, that's a good way to put it.

Yes, yeah. And so, you know, you think about quantum computing, You know, we were just talking about some of the first computers. What was it, a Commodore you had? Commodore 64. I remember having an Atari computer where I actually learned how to do like basic programming. And it was so simplistic back then. But now my mind can barely wrap around quantum computing.

But what it does is, you know, it can process vast amount of information simultaneously. And they call it like, I think it's called quantum superposition. Well, what that does is. is it builds a structure that it can contain all of collective consciousness and subconscious thought processes. And so Yvonne, this biophysicist I mentioned, he talks about quantum entanglement. And I find it interesting. So his definition of it, or he says it's a deeper form of cognitive and emotional connectivity.

So you think about two people being quantum entangled. And he says it enables near-insenged. instantaneous sharing of thoughts, memories, and emotions. And so, you know, you add to that then the quantum world, you know, time does act differently. It's not on linear time like we're accustomed to you. So you have multiple realms happening at the same time. And so what they're suggesting then with the hive mind, like this is part of the lure to bring people in, is that you can not only look at past experiences that you've had, but you can look at future projections,

and then you can alter them by inserting a different perspective. And so then you think about, okay, if it's outside of time, this hive mind, then what they're suggesting is you would be able to experience the thoughts and emotions and the memories of your ancestors. I don't know that I want to do that. Sounds like veneration. It sounds like ancestor worship cults. That's wild.

That's what they were trying to channel. It's crazy how this podcast goes because all the themes in the last, we've been three interviews and 48 hours, and they're all kind of in the same vein. And sometimes you're just like slammed with this kind of bigger vision of these topics. And we were talking yesterday about how the idea of prophecy is. is like knowing a future event. And God, it's almost like time is this circle, right? And we have this just, well, it happened and it's over with. And there's no way to go with that.

And it's like, well, I mean, I as a young kid, I remember being at camp, realizing the story of Joseph interpreting the dreams and the baker being nailed to the tree was a foreshadowing of Christ being on a cross. And that was going to happen. And they were telling us, in prophecy, Christ is coming and he's going to be on a cross. And this idea of time, doesn't Satan know that prophecy? Can't he alter things to, or is it encrypted where he doesn't really understand or know? Did he kind of know these things were going to happen? And if God says they're going to happen,

then they have to happen. Where's free will and all that? It's like this whole concept of time, I think Christians have a lot of it. We're afraid of even the biblical conversation because we say, oh, that's new age, or we, we poo-poo these ideas. But just yesterday, we were really kind of just really unpacking how that works. And you're saying this technology could access these things and even alter, alter them. Yeah. And I think it's, you know, it's one of the benefits they're trying, again, to lure people into this concept of just join with the hive mind. You know, you'll be able to change the past even possibly and control the future. The other thing that they suggest, and I find this interesting, you know, as a former psychologist,

is that, you know, they say it will kind of provide for this new way of healing, this new connectivity with people. So, like, if you want to integrate aspects of your psyche, for example, that are problematic, you can do that with the help. of other empathetic people that are in the hive mind. So it's kind of like having group therapy accessible at any point in time. And then they talk about, you know, problem solving. You know, you'll be able to make, just get problem solving into another gear because of intuitive leap, which means you'll get to draw upon the subconscious thought processes of other participants.

And then you think about like intuitive ideas. will be beyond human limitation. So if you enter the hive mind, you'll have ideas from everyone in that collective, not just based on your own thinking, your own mind. So you can see how they're just, you know, they're really luring people in. Well, it's like it is the quintessential temptation of the garden, right? The knowledge of good and evil, you can know all these things that God's holding out on you, right? And I mean, it's terrifying. It's like, to me, it sounds like, to me, it sounds like you have Google plugged into your brain, except the answers on the Google end are all the people's thoughts. So you can essentially sift through, you know, millions and millions of

thoughts. Yeah. The whole concept of free will is kind of coming to the service in my mind of, like, God put so much creativity and desire and all the things that make you a free individual and a human being, which is such a, like a risk, you know, And they don't want that risk anymore. They don't want individuals. They don't want islands. They don't want a bunch of islands. They want to connect to all of us and make us one mass.

But God and his love for us gave us this choice. And so you can figure it out and I'll give you time to figure it out. And you have this ability. We think sometimes God is this controlling overlord that's just waiting to the hammer of justice is going to come down. it feels like Satan's that way. He's more manipulative. He's more controlling. He's more taking away your freedoms and manipulating you into his ultimate agenda.

Anyway, that's a longer conversation. But it seems like that would be the motivation behind a lot of this. Well, and then you think about quantum entanglement with free will. So if you're quantum entangled with somebody, then what happens to them happens to you. Yeah. And so, you know, kind of tying it back to some of the blurry things, I think that's what the occult has been doing for decades and decades. You know, I think about Hitler and Mangla. I think they were using principles of quantum entanglement.

So, you know, with their twin studies, for example, you know, twin is a form of trauma-based mind control programming that they can have one twin in an underground base torturing that twin. and the other twin living a quote unquote normal life above ground can experience that same level of terror, that same level of torture. And so these things have already been used for those that are entrapped in satanic ritual abuse. And I've, you know, I have people reach out to me and email me their stories. And, you know, some people are already wrapped into, like some people termed. the network, but it's the same concept as the hive mind. And so they don't have, it feels like at times they don't have free will because they're being controlled by this network. And if they make a choice, then they're punished. And so it's definitely something that the occult has already

learned to do. And this is part, like I've said, part of that Nephilim agenda. You know, it really makes me wonder, like, if we give into this, you know, it's a slippery slope towards enslavement and really the point of no return, like you were talking about. It seems like we're getting closer and closer to this point of no return. How close you think we are? Depends on who you ask, for sure. You know, some people, Ray Kurzweil, he talks about singularity. In fact, I have a quote from him. It's really interesting. He says, singularity is the moment when AI's growth becomes uncontrollable and irreversible, resulting in an unforeseeable transformation to human civilization. So singularity is really the point of no return. It's when AI surpasses

human intelligence and is no longer dependent on humans for its development, for its function, even for its replication. So Ray Kurzweil suggests that maybe by 2045, we might reach singularity, And, you know, the goal, I think, for them, again, it's the enticements. So to entice somebody to become one with AI is about, you know, the exponential intelligence you can have, one example. And if you look at, like, how fast technology is advancing, some people are even saying that by 2030, that's in five years. We could reach singularity. And when singularity is reached, I mean, that pretty much changes everything about our human life. And, you know, some futurists are sounding the alarm.

And they're saying, you know, this is now worst case scenario. This is from McKinsey and Company. And they admit this is like a worst case scenario. But they talk about the potential that 30% of the world's population could lose jobs to AI. And so that would be they say, say, like 400 to 800 million people could lose their job. So let's say conservatively, just 10% of the world population could lose their job to AI. That has a significant impact on our lives, on our culture.

And, you know, AI has this dehumanizing aspect to it. And so it doesn't appreciate the dignity of humanity, the dignity of human consciousness, of free will. even, you know, it erodes moral and spiritual values. And so, you know, this is the direction that some of this is heading. You said this place was steps from the water. We just haven't found the steps yet. How much did we save? Enough.

Enough to get lost. Or you could book a stay with Hilton. Welcome to your ocean front room. Just steps from the water. The Hilton sale is on now. book on hilton.com or the hilton app and save up to 20% to get the stay you expected when you want savings not surprises it matters where you stay hilton for this day it's knowledge right it's it's condensed knowledge so we got we sinned against god and we got a form of knowledge that we didn't have before um do you think god created human beings in a state of naivety in the beginning for a reason for a reason for a reason for a reason for a reason for a reason for for a purpose, like we didn't have all this knowledge. We were sort of given the keys to freedom, free will, consciousness, and creativity, but we didn't have access to everything. I actually

think that Adam and Eve before the fall, they had more of the mind of Christ than we do now. And so they had greater access in their mind. I think they were able to use all of their brain connected with the mind of Christ. And that's what, you know, I think about Adam naming all of the animals. That alone, the creativity for that, I think, surpasses what what you and I could do. We only use 10% of our brains, right? Is that right? Yeah, Luke loves is a joke. I think we only use 10% of our hearts, Nate. Yeah. Luke said that to a lot of girls back in the day. You know, that's how he didn't work out for a long time. Okay, so what's the tree of knowledge and then what do you think that is is that because that feels like an ancient AI to me you know

yeah so I think there there was an understanding and knowledge that um god created us with that we were supposed to tap into but then this fallen ancient knowledge as well was what eve was you know manipulated to receive and and to open the door to so I think when we when we talk about having the mind of Christ. It's just something I'm pondering. Is that potentially reconnecting to how God originally designed us? Yeah. I want to ask something because I want to go back to what you were saying about the job loss, what, 400 million. When I hear that, I think about like the World Economic Forum stuff, the globalist saying you'll live in a pod, you'll eat bugs, you'll have this social salary. What I don't think the terminology is for it, they'll pay you a certain amount of

money to survive. Is that part of, is this, in your mind, is this part of that agenda is to, is to replace humans in the workforce? And then in that sense, then we lose our autonomy financially. You wrote about the Fed extensively as well. But like, is this part of, is this the next stepping stone too to remove? So if you're not working, you're not creating, you don't have any incentive for meritocracy. You don't have an ability to create.

And that's what, unless the nanny state gives you money. and you will live in a place they tell you to live and you'll eat what they tell you to eat because now you are no longer useful except perhaps in your social, your equity, your thought equity within the hive or however this is going. But I see, I mean...

It's like AI views humans as like a lesser than, you know, it's just kind of how the Nephilim viewed humans back in the day. Humans were just these slaves and like feed us and we were lesser than. And if AI is making money for itself, If it's singularity, then it can just pay us a slave wage and say, go away human beings. It's just, it's all the lesser than.

We are just these rats in a laboratory. Right. How is this, I mean, out in the market space, not in this studio, perhaps, definitely not in the studio. But I mean, how is this being pitched? Because in my mind, like the idea of we're getting close to the point of no return, there is a potential spot in now in the timeline where you have. this singularity where AI passes human intelligence. And yeah, but and then we are things even like Neurrelink and and these nanobots. We are we, are we addressing these ethical, these ethical questions.

We are we on the show? But I mean, society, how is this? Are we being, are we playing a shell game now where this is, there are a lot of ethical questions here, obviously, or you're combining manned machine sounds like Terminator 2, but, but doesn't really matter because look at all the good stuff we can do. You can be super smart. You can live a very long time. I mean, it's like this, it is, again, nothing to do with the sun, but it's this offering again. Like, you can, you can live longer. You can be smarter. You can be super human. Yeah. The 80s, the 80s representation would be like this sort of like Armageddon, end of the world. But I feel like more it's going to be like a false utopia. It's going to feel great. It's going to feel enlightening. It's not going to feel like an

obvious, you know, you're walking off a cliff into disaster. You think you're stepping into heaven. Yeah. And I think it's, you know, it's the counterfeit of the mind of Christ. So, you know, this hive mind and singularity. And back to what you said earlier, I think this is exactly what Nimrod was walking in. It's this anti-Christ spirit. And so Genesis 11, verse 1 and 6, it says, now the whole world had one language and a common speech. So if we're all in the hive mind, and it says, the Lord said, if as one people speaking the same language, they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. And so we're not, you know, we're not supposed to achieve unity through machine.

We're supposed to achieve unity through the mind of Christ. And I think back to what you were saying, Luke, about, you know, where is this headed? What does this mean financially? So you think about, you know, it could be five, ten, ten, fifteen years from now, but there may come at time where, you know, well-meaning Christians could be tempted to join the hive mind just to stay relevant or competitive, you know, in their jobs, even to feed their families. They might be willing to have like a few enhancements, you know, so we have to ask ourselves, are we willing to allow this mixture into our lives?

And it makes me think of, you know, the fourth kingdom in Daniel's kingdom that he prophesied about. And this is in Daniel 2. It's verse 40 through 41. It says, finally there will be a fourth kingdom. Strong as iron for iron breaks and smashes everything. And as iron breaks things to pieces, so it will crush and break all the others. Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly a baked clay and partly of iron. So there's that mixture.

So this will be divided, will be a divided kingdom, yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay. So in the last days, we are going to see, you know, this mixture in the fourth kingdom. And we have to remember that Jesus is coming back for a pure and spotless bride, not one that, you know, has mixture as part of who they are. And so we have to resist that temptation to want to join with AI or hive mind. Now, I say that now, and it almost seems ridiculous to say, like, of course, we're not going to join. I mean, we're smarter than that. You know, we're not going to give in to joining with machine. But we have to realize that technology inches us closer and closer and closer.

And so those bi-awareable devices we have, you know, what do they have? Is it Apple rings even? My kids have some of those rings that tell you like how well you slept or, you know, this, that and they have these oculus glasses now that you can put on and you can, like, you see holograms and you can interact just by reaching out and touching and it will connect to the internet. And that's how people are having meetings. And so all of this is inching us ever close. And so we have to ask the question, like, where do we draw the line between human

existence and digital immortality? Because the hive mind offers this immortality in, you know, joining consciousness to the collective. And, you know, that's beyond natural death. Natural death, you know, brings an end to conscious awareness. And of course, you know, this raises tons of ethical questions. Yeah. Do you think this as like, I can't help but think about your statement there that there'll be this pressure. And it makes you think of 2020. There'll be this pressure to accept and submit because you've got to feed your family, right? This was the same pressure that was applied in 2020 to take the medicine, to take the poison, right? And I can't help but think that this, that is a precursor to some of this, but also do you think this actually plays into some of the things we'll see with the mark of the beast at the end because

there was an insane pressure in 2020 for folks to acquiesce so they could work or fly on an airplane or, you know, all the things that freedoms that we should have had inherently were taken away and, you know, and. Like a precursor. Yeah, it feels like this is, like these are dry runs that are conditioning folks up to the point where you can't do anything now. You can't, you can't buy or sell. you can't take care of your family.

I feel like ancient technology too was also sort of localized, and now it can be, you can connect the whole world in one. And I don't know if the ancient tech was, you know what I'm saying? Could do that. Yeah, could actually fully do that. And so we are merging with modern technology and ancient technology. Seems like some of the behind the scenes players know this ancient technology. but also there's this new merge,

which feels like iron and clay, but I mean, it feels like ancient iron and modern iron and clay, you know, there's this whole third thing. Ancient iron sounds like a good band name. Yeah, ancient iron. Exactly.

And at some point, and 80s band, right? At some point, Laura, that means your grandma's sourdough recipe is going to be very valuable. You know, this ancient human thing is going to be so valuable. Like, no robot can make it like

These are my grandma's tacos. Yeah, exactly. My grandma made amazing pecan rolls. Okay, so our grandmas, we can't let that stuff get into the high mind. It can't happen. Starting a business can seem like a daunting task, unless you have a partner like Shopify. They have the tools you need to start and grow your business.

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And it'll be like the hobbits in Middle Earth, just chilling, making ales and baking bread. And I wonder if that's kind of what Tolkien was getting at, that there's something about a human and its organic state that is beautiful and is doing the work of God, existing in a pure state. Yes, yeah. Makes me think of the remnant. You know, the Bible talks about the remnant, and I think those will be the people that are willing to stand in alignment

with what Jesus is asking us to do and not be sucked in by all the pressures. So it'll be hard. It's going to be really hard. So let's talk about the other side of the coin, right? Like the, if the idea of this side of the coin is this mergence with technology and human consciousness and AI and infinite access to thoughts and information, which is very godlike, right? God is omniscient and omnipresent. Like this idea, you can be everywhere and know everything, which is we're not supposed to have that. I mean, God has created us the way you did because that's crushing.

I think even now people are crushed by knowing what's going on. everywhere in the world at the same time. And we carry this burden folks do that read the news. I don't read the news, but folks that read the news, you know, you carry this burden of all these tragedy and trauma. Well, that's what I was like the Eden question, like the spiritual knowledge was sort of kept from us. And we had knowledge. We had a brain that worked to categorize animals and to live an abundant life here. But there was this other knowledge that we didn't have access to that, like you said, might have been a burden. Might have been a burden for us. And it was something we weren't supposed to carry.

Like the ring. Back to the high. Yeah. Here we go. But then, you know, these angelic beings wanted to give us that too later in the story. So it was like we kind of chose it. And then we were given it again. And then we had this other rebellion where we come together with all that knowledge and

then try a third rebellion against God. It's like all these moments built on each other. And now we're kind of coming to. an age where we're going to do the same thing. Right. You know, you're the point, though, right? As we're talking about, is that flip side is the mind of Christ. Right?

So, I mean, what's the difference? What does that mean? And how do we, you know, how do we, you're great and practical things. That's what I love about having the show, Lord. You're pragmatic in all of the research and all the things you say. So, like, what, you know, what does that, what does that mean biblically? And then how do we, how to pursue that in light of what everything appears to be barreling towards, right, with this emergence of humans and technology.

Yeah. Well, I think that's what's so exciting is to recognize that we do have the mind of Christ. You know, 1 Corinthians 2 talks about it. And it talks about this wisdom that gives us an understanding of this mystery. Like, how can we have the mind of Christ? And I'll read, this is verse, starting with verse 6 in 1 Corinthians 2. It says, we do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age who are coming to nothing. No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. However, as it is written, no eye has seen,

no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God is prepared for those who love him. But God has revealed it to us by His Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him, but we have the mind of Christ. And I think that is such incredible news. I mean, thinking about what we were talking about the mind of Christ, I mean, that is the greatest mind there is, the creator of all things. And, you know, I think about how do we, how is that even possible? Like, do we get a brain transfusion? You know, how does that work?

And you think about, you know, back to neuroplasticity that I was talking about and how, you know, our brains change moment to moment. And so our thoughts will shape our DNA. And we're constantly faced with thoughts, right? Whether to entertain negative thoughts or positive thoughts. And I think about, you know, 2 Corinthians 10, five. It's one of my favorites. You know, we demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God. And we take captive every thought and make it obedient to Christ.

And that verse gives us a clue of how we, how we're to be, how we're to combat these things. We take captive our thoughts. So those toxic thoughts we arrest. And we want to make sure that our thoughts are aligning with Christ. And it makes me think about, well, maybe, no, you guys are probably. probably old enough. Do you remember the what would Jesus do bracelets? Oh yeah. Okay. Well, we were old enough. Dude, I had like three or four of them with along with all the other bracelets I wore because it was about volume to have the most, the most bracelets bracelets. That was, that was a, that was. Tim Tebow wore one for a long time. It was a big thing. That was a, there was a moment. Yeah. And I don't know how effective it really was other than,

you know, kind of a fad thing. But the point that they were trying to do with that is to get us to think, what would Jesus do in this particular situation? And I think to do something similar, like when we're struggling with a thought that just keeps coming and we can't seem to get victory over it, stop and think, okay, would Jesus entertain this thought? And if you wouldn't, get rid of it and align yourself with thoughts that are going to align with Christ. And, you know, this is a way that we can get our thoughts out of the gutter.

And it makes me think of Isaiah 55, 8, 9, which says, for my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are my ways, your ways, declares the Lord. As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts. And what that tells us is when we align our thoughts with Christ, we automatically elevate our thinking. And that's a beautiful thing. And to think about, like, how do we get the mind of Christ?

in us. Well, we have to immerse ourselves in the Word of God. You know, we know that from Joshua 1-8. It says, do not let this book of the law depart from your mouth, but meditate on it day and night so that you may be careful to do everything written in it. Then you will be prosperous and successful. Now, for me, one of the things that I love to do is I love to memorize scripture because I want it to flow in and out of me. And, you know, I hear people that will listen to scripture as they sleep. They'll just play it over themselves. And I think about an analogy, like for health reasons, I love to get coconut oil in me. Like, I try and get at least two tablespoons of coconut oil. It's amazing products. I kind of, I joke that, have you ever watched my big fat Greek wedding?

Yeah, it's been a long time. The guy with the Windex. He's like Windex for everything. I'm like that with coconut oil. Like, oh, you got to paint, like rub some coconut oil on. Yeah, yeah. But I will, you know, I'll cook with it, but I'll also like rub it on my skin. because skin is our largest organ. So even though I'm rubbing it on the outside, it's seeping through all my pores and gets inside of me. Well, that's what we want with the Word of God.

We want to not only read it, like ingest it, but we want to get it inside of us. And that's, you know, when we meditate, when we study scripture, we're getting it on the inside of us. And that is, that's so critical. So that's part of how we allow the mind of Christ to anchor us, to align us. But the other thing we know from Scripture is that we have

the mind of Christ because of the Holy Spirit. You know, the Holy Spirit that's in us. And I love John 1416. It says, and I will ask the Father and he will give you another counselor to be with you forever, the Spirit of Truth. Now, as a former counselor, I think about the Holy Spirit as our counselor, a spirit of truth. I mean, this is way better than the hive mind that talks about perpetual group therapy

being available. We have access, unlimited access to the greatest counselor of all time, the Holy Spirit. And so we can look to the Holy Spirit

to correct our thinking, you know, to set our course on the right path. I think about, you know, how often the Holy Spirit will help me manage my emotions.

Like when I'm getting stirred up with something, the Holy Spirit, if I turn to the Holy Spirit, he'll help me manage that. It'll help me figure out, okay, what's going on for me in the moment. The Holy Spirit also gives us wisdom, how to navigate relationships. He'll guide us through those difficult conversations we have to have sometimes. But also the Holy Spirit gives us discernment. And that is so important.

We need to be able to discern, you know, right from wrong, good, from evil. Well, that's part of Romans 12. too. It's like, don't be conformed to the world, but conform by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God and what is good and acceptable and perfect. It's hard because a lot of people are led by their emotions and they think it's the Holy Spirit. And it's like, and then sometimes people, where is the truth lying in that? You know, because you take 30 pastors and ask them what's going on, you have 30 different answers. And so it's like, where is, you know, the truth and how do we actually get into a posturing in a position where we can hear effectively?

Yeah. Because we're often the loudest voice internally. Most times, I think. Yeah. I think actually the Lord's been teaching me that lesson quite a bit. You know, when the roots of the Federal Reserve. have got published. It took, you know, maybe a year or so. I think before the Lord began connecting me with people in the realm of satanic ritual abuse. But I could have never, ever have imagined

that's the path I would be on right now. And what I recognize pretty quickly is I desperately need discernment. I need wisdom. And, you know, one of the things that the Lord, is teaching me is that if I will slow down my responses to stressful situations or like if I get angry or for some reason I'm filled with fear, if I slow down my responses, I can then actually access the mind of Christ because the amygdala is where fear, stress, and anger originates from. And that's, you know, our primitive brain. And our primitive brain, it kicks into gear quickly and doesn't allow our like deeper, higher level cognition to interact.

So like the amygdala is super helpful when we're in a dangerous situation, right? Fight or flight because it quickly activates our brain for that emergency action. But again, we cannot access high level cognition. through the amygdala. So if we are letting our emotions govern our decisions or that amygdala to drive our decisions, then we're going to have irrational and impetuous thinking. And so one of the things that the Lord's been teaching me is just slow down and wait. And this is what allows us to tap into that mind of Christ. The Greek word for mind is noose used in that 1st Corinthians 216 passage. And one of the things as it means is to judge soberly, calmly, and impartially.

And so it means that slowing down. And so when I've done that, like I've been praying, one of the prayers I've been praying recently is, you know, this is out of, I think it's John 17, where Jesus talks about that he only speaks with a father commanded him to say. And that has blown my mind. And so I'm realizing, Father, I only want to speak the things that you would have me say, otherwise just shut my mouth. Like, people don't need to hear what I have to say. And so he's done that in situations. And that's been part of that holding my tongue and just pausing so that I'm not responding out of those emotions. I'm allowing the mind of Christ for myself to get aligned with the mind of Christ.

I mean, we've been, this is so interesting. I mean, I know nothing's accidental, but like this is something I've been talking about, like maybe all week or the last two weeks, is that, is that our emotions are not equal to the Holy Spirit. And I think oftentimes people conflate that because of exactly what you're saying. I think there's a amount of humility that needs to be present in our lives to be like, I don't, I don't, I'm going to wait on this. And because I think what happens, and this is inevitably is we, our creatures that react

out of fear or out of things enter, things that are innocuous, pieces of media, message, and whatever that aren't good or bad. But they impact us in a way that bumps are against our paradigms, and there's a very visceral reaction. And Jeremiah 17 says that our, the heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked. And so you realize that, like, a lot of times our, the Bible times are hard as our emotional place. Now, I do I think God can plan our emotions to lead us? Absolutely. However, I think we, as Christians can get into big problems when we conflate our emotional and visceral responses to things as the Holy Spirit. And I think this, and this is a whole, this could be a whole episode and a side conversation, but I feel like that is something that's wickedly manipulated in the church. Well, we don't have a lot of emotional intelligence.

We don't emphasize emotional intelligence. We emphasize intellectual intelligence. Like, you know this stuff. You can regurgitate facts. and then you're easily manipulated by this narcissistic pastor because you have no understanding of like, that's a manipulative thing, he just said and did. And so we don't develop that in the church. I think what you're saying in the mind of Christ is like a full shining light on all the things you're feeling and thinking at once

and then being able to sift through them and go, what are these things? And I think a lot of us are in deceptive or manipulative relationships. and it takes us a long time to even notice. Yeah, it does. I'm being manipulated constantly, and it's difficult. And I think that's how, you know, obviously these entities will work on the human mind and can manipulate us from a fourth dimensional, you know, conversation, let alone other humans manipulating other humans.

And it's like the conversation just gets deeper and deeper and deeper. Well, it's just a fear and trauma, right? Like, this is exactly how MK Ultra and these programs work, right? This is exactly how the agenda. end of the darkness works as they manipulate humans via fear and trauma. And I think sometimes we allow that to happen to ourselves in our own mind, which is, which is, you know, it's not, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a whole, I mean, this is a whole, I mean, this is a whole episode conversation on this at some point, because I think it's, it's, it's so important to touch

on this for people because I, discernment is such a buzzword in, in the church and every, all of our spaces everywhere else. And I think, going back to having a mind of Christ is where you start. It's pursuing that and it's humility to be like, I don't have all the answers. And also I'm a broken person that has a lot of visceral emotional responses to things that are out of my baggage, my fear, my trauma, my, you know, my opinions, you know,

the things that I've created dogma around that maybe aren't dogmatic. Yeah. And I think this is actually placed so well in this because that's the way they're going to try to. And we get to the hive mind. That's the way they're going to try to push. this on to us, right? Is the same methodology.

Nothing new under the sun, right? It's fear. It's fear. You're going to miss out. And even talking about these things, constantly, it pushes people into those categories. And like you said, you started the episode with hope. You want to end with hope. And it kind of reminds me the story of Jesus on the boat.

You know, the disciples are freaking out. They're having that fear response. They're having that trauma response. I know a guy that's boat sank and he died and there's a shipwreck. Oh, Bill. You know, and Jesus is just, he's teaching them, calm down, calm down. Trust me. And parenting is the same way with your children.

It's like, your kid is like having this emotional reaction and your initial response is like to have an equal one. Right. And you have to go, ah, stuff that down. What is going on, honey? Or what's going on, son? What is happening in your heart? Why are you feeling this way? and having that emotional maturity to speak life into a situation that is chaotic when you can

equally flare up and yell and match that energy. And that takes, I don't know, some people never get there. And I think high stress situations form you to do that. And I think oftentimes God puts human beings in these high stress situations to weed that out of us. 40 years in the desert, you're going to learn to stop complaining. no new sandals for you. It's been 10 years.

You're still complaining. We're going to do this a little longer. You know, we can't do things very quickly. It takes us a lifetime to learn. So as we learned that, we were replacing our mind, our mind with the mind of Christ. How do we, you know, how does that look like? It was that look like. And how does that plan to resisting being plugged into the system?

It really is a beast system, the beast system, right? Like, how do we resist that? Yeah, but we also don't lose our free. will in that process. It's kind of a weird, a weird both and. Well, I think it's constantly surrendering our free will, our choices. What we want to do, we constantly surrender to the Lord and say, not my will, but your will be done. So we have free will, and we have the choice to lay that down before the Lord. And I talked about this at Blurie Con too, the sons of God. those, the sons of God are those who are led by the Spirit of God. Well, where does the Spirit

leads us? The Spirit leads us to repentance, to the threshing floor, you know, to the refiners fire. And so, you know, Jesus is our model in that, you know, he didn't want to go to the cross and Githemite. He was like, take this from me. But he laid down his will. And so I think about that's, that's one of the things that we do to get the mind of Christ is we lay down. what it is we want to do. The other thing that you were touching on about, like, how do we, how do we manage our emotions, you know, that sort of thing? I think I've talked about this before, and that is like aligning ourselves, like telling our bodies to get in alignment with our soul and our soul, which is our mind, will, and emotions to get in alignment surrender to our

spirit and our spirit surrender to the Holy Spirit and no other spirits. And that's just like a simple way to remember like, okay, I can't allow my body to make all the decisions. If it did, I would be eating gelato all the time. I mean, I ate gelato all throughout Italy every chance I could get. Hey, can we stop for gelato? Yeah. But seriously, like if we allowed our bodies to be the ones driving our decisions, it's a horrible idea. Well, the same with our emotions, our soul. So we want our spirit to be the one that's operating just under the Holy Spirit and connecting us. And that's what allows us, again, to ask ourselves, okay, the thoughts that I'm having, did these align with Christ? If not get a new thought. Well, the more often we think those new thoughts, we form these

robust neural pathways. And that's how we're replacing, like, our old habits or old thoughts with the mind of Christ. But as far as, like, resisting, this singularity. I think one of the things that really helps me is to recognize, first of all, these Nephilim hosts, they hate the fact that we're created in the image of God, but then they also try and deny the fact that we're created in the image of God. And so they think that they can us, and they think that they can, you know, manipulate us. And while it might seem like, you know, the progression of AI and singularity may be. seem unstoppable, we know that there's a God in heaven that has intervened all throughout human

history when humans have tried to usurp his authority. And so even though this hive mind, you know, it offers healing, collective healing, like that perpetual group therapy, it offers immortality. It offers like these transcendental experiences. It also, you know, offers that you can be one with this collective. And so you'll have all this intelligence. Well, again, all of that is a trap of the Antichrist spirit. It's the same spirit that Nimrod operated in. So when he was leading his subjects to build that tower of Babel to reach the heavens, it didn't end well for them. God stepped in and thwarted their plans. And I think a day of reckoning is coming, you know, for those that are trying to usurp God's authority. Now, I would like that to come sooner than it is. But, you know,

this is God's timetable. He doesn't operate according to what we want. And for me, what's super helpful is I always come back to the sovereignty of the Lord and the fact that he has the highest jurisdiction. And I love, I want to read just a few verses from Isaiah 40, and I'll start in verse 10, and listen how powerful this is. See the sovereign Lord comes with power and he rules with a mighty arm. See, his reward is with him and his recompense accompanies him. Who has measured the waters in the hollow of his hand or with the breath of his hand marked off the heavens? Who has held the dust of the earth in a basket or weighed the mountains on the scales and the hills in a balance? Who can fathom the spirit of the Lord or instruct the Lord as his counselor.

Whom did the Lord consult to enlighten him? And who taught him the right way? Who was it that taught him knowledge or showed him the path of understanding? Surely, the nations are like a drop in a bucket. They are regarded as dust on the scales. He weighs the islands as though they were fine dust. With whom then will you compare God to what image will you liken him? Do you not know, have you not heard, has it not been?

and told you from the beginning? He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy and spreads them out like a tent to live in. He brings princes to naught and reduces the rulers of this world to nothing. No sooner are they planted, no sooner are they sewn, no sooner do they take root in the ground, then he blows on them and they wither in a whirlwind sweeps them away like chaff to whom will you compare me or who is my equal says the holy one and i love that because we don't have to be tempted by the hive mind we have access to the greatest mind there has ever been the one who has created everything i mean you think about the beauty and the the wonder of a womb so here we have these scientists that think that they can

outsmart God by creating life and by merging machine with man, but they are but dust, like Isaiah 40 says. And no sooner are they planted than this whirlwind will blow them away like a chaff. And we've seen that. We've seen that in like the sort of the golden age ruins that we've talked about a lot on our show. We went to Peru and looked at them. You know, you got you got some, you got a little bit left with the bases, but this whole empire is gone. It's been blown away. And I think that the hive mind is more than a temptation to join with AI. I think we all have a temptation to give into the hive mind daily. I think churches do this a lot. You know, you have this, I don't want to ruffle anyone's feathers and I don't want to be on an individual

path with God. I've got to, I get benefits from the hive, so I'm going to slowly make compromises. You know, we see this whistleblowing and all this stuff being experienced. You know, we see this whistleblowing and all this stuff being exposed in Washington where Congress and Senate, you know, they have funneled, they've been part of these money laundering schemes and they've compromised themselves to get paid out in the back end and oh, I'm not doing things that are that bad,

but it's like, yeah, you are. Like you, you, I've compromised and the whole world is kind of waking up to just these, this idea that like, man, it's really difficult to stay on a path with God and be able to sleep at night. because I can compromise all along for the hive, for the benefit.

If I do this thing, my family gets money. If I do this thing, I'll have friends. And I think that was one of the thing that was impressed on me in the music business. I didn't really like the music business because it felt like I had to have a bunch of fake friends. And I had to do and say things. And what I like about blurry creatures is it's more of a, like, we can move towards where our heart feels is right and end these conversations. And even outside of the church, a lot of these topics, you know,

Christians were very visceral at us because we'll talk about them. But because we're on our own path, we can have those conversations. Nobody's coming in here and shutting it down and said, you're not allowed to do that. Conform to the hive mind. Say what we want you to say because you're not allowed to talk about these things. And it's like, I think so much of being a Christian on a path that says, you know, they all say this, but what do I tell you? What am I speaking to you? And we all have to go on a journey with our relationship with God. And we can't get in line and be like, well, I'm good. here I'm on I'm on I'm in line right I'm getting into heaven it's like no you have to go through the mountains on your own quest and each of us is on that and I think the hive mind is the opposite get in

line we're all on the broad road and we're driving to hell get in and you'll have a benefit right because you'll have a nice air-conditioned vehicle and you'll have the best radio station and you'll have somebody delivering you food and get in loser yeah you'll have high-speed internet come on in But it's like it's harder to get on that path and carve your way through the mountains. But the whole way you're having a real true experience. I don't know. That's a long diatribe. But I think that that has been the temptation in my whole life.

It's like, well, if I do this, there's a benefit to it. So I am not going to say the thing. But I actually really want a real friendship. So maybe I just have this one or two friendship. And I leave this whole group of people who, aren't really invested in my life, who don't really care about me. You know,

and that's harder, so much harder to do that. Anyway, I think the hive mind is, is a big perspective and there's also the small, compromising things we do every day. Laura, thank you.

Well said. Yeah. Well said. Laura, we love you. It's so good to have you in here. It's great to be here in person. Oh my goodness. We're not over computer screens.

And I love that. I love just like the progression of unpacking things. with you has been so fun. The story is old, but we started with the Federal Reserve, your book, The Roots of the Federal Reserve, and Nate emailed you on Amazon, and

we're five years into the show now. Yeah. And two conferences, and yeah, just thank you for all you're doing and continue to do for, and done for us. Yeah. You're like our blurry mom. We said that all, I think, in every conference, but it's true. It's fun. I mean, I love this. But she says, you're not old enough to be her mother. Well, aunt, maybe. Sister.

Blurry aunty. Yeah. Blurry sister. We'll just have older sister. That might be better. But we're not done. So we're going to go to the after shows. If you guys want more of Dr. Laura, we're going to actually go back to the beginning, Laura. We started with the Roots of the Federal Reserve, your first book. You've got two books out now.

We'll shout them out. Now you've got Generation Hoodwink to your latest book, which we've talked about on the show. If you haven't heard that episode, go check it out. But the first book and sort of the genesis of everything for us in our relationship and you has been around the Federal Reserve, and it's been kind of a crazy year to say the least. I mean, gold is up 40% this year. There's, I mean, we are establishing strategic reserves of Bitcoin. And there's a whole bunch of things floating around with the Federal Reserve and also

central bank digital currencies. And so in the after so for our members, join us in the after show. We're going to talk to Laura. We're going to go back to the beginning and talk about the Federal Reserve, Central Bank, digital currencies, and what's happening now, kind of an update from the, original episode one with you. And yeah, in order to listen to this, of course, you've got to be a member of blurry creatures. Go to blurrycreatures.com slash members. And you can get the end of the show here with Dr. Laura, some more of her wisdom and some talk about the Fed. So we'll get to that here

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He's got to put Paris, Tennessee on the list, and you can make the trifecta. Kansas City, South Carolina. You know, she's going to be there. It's a little weird, but for some reason. Vancouver, Washington for our pal, Josh Nodagh, right? Not Vancouver, Canada. But thank you. Let's get into the after show.

Let's do it. Yes.