Blurry Creatures - EP: 429 The Builder of the Great Pyramid with Ryan Pitterson

Episode Date: May 26, 2026

Ryan Pitterson returns with a theoretical bombshell. Drawing from his meticulous biblical research and laying out a case that only a lawyer could, Ryan pulls from Jeremiah, Isaiah, and Job and theorizes that the Great Pyramid of Giza is found in the biblical narrative. Built not as a pagan relic but rather as a divine altar set in Egypt by God as a sign of the coming Savior. The builder, he argues, is the patriarch Job. The greatest man in the East. The monotheist shepherd king, who secular historians recorded as Cheops. The evidence is staggering. An estimated 144,000 casing stones once covered the pyramid's surface. The empty coffer inside foretells the empty tomb. God speaks to Job in construction and astronomy language that tracks precisely with the pyramid's design and celestial alignments. Pitterson makes the case that New Jerusalem descends not as a cube but as a pyramid, that every other pyramid on earth is a satanic counterfeit, and that Egypt plays a specific prophetic role in the end times that most of the church has overlooked. Buckle up, this gets blurry. This episode is sponsored by: https://get.stash.com/blurry — See how you can receive $25 towards your first stock purchase and to view important disclosures. https://rocketmoney.com/blurry — Let Rocket Money help you reach your financial goals faster! https://homechef.com/blurry — Get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box & free dessert for life! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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modern day church they have a very truncated view of the supernatural this backdrop that's just pregnant with all kinds of meaning associated with this Mount Herman event and this guy defects from the kingdom that's a big deal August 12th 1986 if on if if divorce court since you're you know got to throw out there as a attorney was at 4 o'clock what we'll give you three guesses what show came on at 430 I'm gonna guess same channel channel 6 yeah people's court nope you get two more guesses Ryan I'm counting over here I'll play your referee um it's a little different I don't think in the same genre okay but um what could possibly be on TV next at 430 on August 12th do I get

Yes. What day the week is it? Thursday? This is, that was Tuesday night. This is 18 days before your birthday. I don't know which birthday. But this is 4 o'clock, the 430 show. This is the 430 show.

They came on the same channel. No. That would have to be later. Yeah, yeah. Oh, man. Was it a game show? Not a game show. No, that's mornings.

But there was a game show on Channel 5. Price is right. Not on Channel 6. Night Rider? Should I read what the episode says? Yeah. Luis is dead set against George's notion to have a gun in the house for protection. Isabel Sanford, Sherman Hemsley.

The Jefferson's? Jefferson's. That's easy. There you go. I read the description. Welcome back to Bloorier Creatures. You got to go through the TV guide every once in a while. I take it back to the 80s.

Yeah, you spent a little bit of a little bit of, uh, of a little bit of, uh, of the creatures. extra coin on acquiring a few of the TV guides from the and that one has our friend Kirk Cameron on the phone yeah it does Kirk we didn't get him to sign it but he did sign our wall studio but you know it's it's been fun to go back and we're going back again today not only because you were on many early episodes of blurry creatures but we're going back to maybe some ancient construction who built it and to the oldest book in the bible yes arguably so that's going way that's great to have Ryan peterson back in the house Ryan to take us back.

Let's go. Great to be back. And we're going to go way back in time. And today, you know, I want to talk about the pyramid, the pyramid, the Giza pyramid, the great pyramid, the oldest one. And today I want to talk about really three things around that. One, I think the Bible specifically mentions the Great Pyramid, the Geese Pyramid. Two, I think that also it plays a role in the end times.

And I think the Bible identifies who built it. Wow. Wow. This is good. This is big time. We've talked about the pyramids, Nate. There's so many theories, right? I think most people are kind of out on the idea that it was a tomb. Also a great 80s game show.

What the, what was it called again? Was it $20,000 pyramid? Yeah, I remember the number. Yeah. Well, if we, yeah, I mean, it could have been. It really could have been a $20,000 pyramid if we extrapolate for inflation and everything else. You know, maybe that's what it costs back in the day. But, you know, we've had folks on talking about.

sort of hypothesizing on what the function of these things were. Yeah. And not who made them. Well, we've talked a bit about giants and all these different things. Sure. Theories.

We said giants built the pyramids is moralized on our blurry woke sign. Absolutely. Very happy. See, one of my neighbors actually has that sign on their lawn. Yes. We're on the corner from in Texas. Yes, that's very sign. Oh, man.

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Yeah, I guess you're giving more descriptive. We haven't had anyone talk about it being in the Bible. Who builds it? But with biblical support, we've talked a lot about what are they, what do they do, some sort of advanced mechanism machine of types. Yeah, like Ali G said, right? Pyramid, what is it? What is it?

Yeah, so I think that, first of all, broadly to go with other guests in the show, I do think there is a divine architecture to the pyramids. Absolutely. And they serve a great spiritual purpose. But the Giza pyramid, which I think was the original one in our Adamic civilization that we're living in, I think has a specific purpose for God, for Yahweh. And so I want to start by identifying where I believe it shows up in scripture. And I think we find a reference to it in the book of Jeremiah. And I think Jeremiah identifies it and it actually starts explaining, really remarking on seeing it.

I think Jeremiah actually saw the pyramid. I think this is what he's speaking about. And so I'm going to go to Jeremiah 32. All right. And pick up in verse 17. He says, O Lord God, behold, thou has made the heaven and the earth by thy great power and stretched out arm. And there is nothing too hard for thee, showing loving kindness unto thousands and recompensing

the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them. The great, the mighty God, the Lord of host is his name. So clearly speaking of God's greatness and His majesty. And he continues here, it says, great in counsel and mighty and work. So, talking about what thing God has done. For thine eyes are upon all the ways of the sons of men to give everyone according to his ways and according to the fruits of his doing. Which has set signs and wonders in the land of Egypt even unto this day and in Israel and among other men and has made thee a name as at this day and has brought forth thy people Israel out of the land of Egypt with signs and with wonders and a strong hand. stretched out arm in great terror. And so he's, Jeremiah is saying that there was, there was a wonder

and a sign that God put in Egypt that still existed to this day. So of course, Jeremiah's writing on the eve of the Babylonian captivity, which is 586 BC. So this is, we're almost a thousand years after Moses in Egypt when all the signs and wonders happen in the Exodus. And Jeremiah is saying there's a wonder in Egypt that God made that's still there today, a thousand years. thousand years later. So he's not, I don't think he's talking about anything to do with the exodus, plagues or anything like that.

I think he's talking about an actual structure. So the pyramids were old then. Oh yeah, sure. Yeah, this is a thousand years. Plus, yeah.

We've talked about that too. This is the idea that like, that these massive structures seem to be repurposed because they don't actually follow any of the Egyptian archetype or architecture for a tomb. Right. The Egyptians buried their pharaohs in the valley of the kings. not in a pyramid.

And that's been a bit of crux of some of the conversations. It's like, what is this thing really about? It just looks like someone said, hey, you know, and there's a lot of talk about these actually predating the Egyptian, dynastic Egyptians as well.

Yeah. And this is cool. This theory we haven't heard. Yes. And there's some, this is interesting. We got to be hanging out in Jeremiah more. Yeah.

Yeah. It's a lot going on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone's got a lot of things in Ezekiel and Daniel.

Yeah. I don't forget about old Jeremiah. That's right. Yeah. Jeremiah saw future and past. He saw back in time and into the future. And so, yeah, so I think what he's saying here is that God set up a sign in Egypt. And I think it's the Giza pyramid.

And why did he do that? I think it's because it's pointing to the end times. And so I want to continue to lay the groundwork from my case here by going to Isaiah now. And I think in Isaiah, ironically chapter 32, there's also a mention of the pyramid. And it says here that in that day, shall eat. Egypt be like unto women, and it shall be afraid and fear because of the shaking of the land of the Lord of hosts, which he shakes over it, and the land of Judah shall be a terror unto Egypt. Everyone that maketh mention thereof shall be afraid in himself because of the counsel of the

Lord of hosts, who he has determined against it. In that day shall five cities in the land of Egypt. Again, we're talking about end times. In this day, we're talking about the day of the Lord, the future end times judgment, shall five cities in the land of the land of Egypt. Again, we're talking about the end times, judgment, shall five cities in the land of Egypt speak the language of Canaan and swear to the Lord of hosts. One shall be called the city of destruction. So it's saying, this is actually saying that there's going to be a judgment in Egypt, but eventually they're going to be speaking the land of Canaan, which is Israel, God's language, and swear to God. So this is hinting at some type of revival taking place in Egypt. And then it says also, in that day shall there be an altar to the Lord

in the midst of the land of Egypt and a pillar at the border thereof to the Lord. And so when I started looking into this and looking at older commentaries on this passage, they'd say this is a reference to the Great Pyramid. And even far back as Josephus, he wrote about that, except he attributed to Seth, that Seth was erecting a pillar to survive the judgments of God until the end times in the land of Egypt. And so this was what led me, started leading me on this, path to understanding that I believe scripture is specifically referring to this altar in the midst of Egypt that's going to point us to what? I believe to the coming Messiah in the end times, to the end

times and to Armageddon. Also in Isaiah, and I won't read the whole passage, but Isaiah 19, again, speaking of Egypt, God talks again about there will be a pillar at the border thereof in the midst of the land of Egypt. And he says, this would be for a sign and witness unto the Lord of hosts in Egypt, for he shall then cry out to the oppressors and he shall then send a Savior and a great one and shall deliver them and the Lord shall be known to Egypt and the Egyptians shall know the Lord

in that day. And he says, Blessed be Egypt, my people. So this is all, again, in the end times context, something is happening in Egypt that God is doing where he's going to send Jesus there. If you think about it in the big picture of the Bible,

Egypt always has a very interesting spiritual role in God's plan. right Israel of course is born as a nation out of 70 people in Egypt. The 12 tribes grow, obviously, and they come out of Egypt. God says, I called my son, just speaking of Christ, out of Egypt. When many people of God, including Jesus, are on the run, they go to Egypt to hide out. And so there's this interesting kind of dynamic going on there. And of course, you also have the presence of the fallen angels. It's a big spiritual battleground between God and the fallen angelic realm. but I think ultimately God is saying, I'm going to send my Messiah there.

And I think what the pyramid is, it's God's altar that he set up to point to the coming of Christ. And I believe ultimately new Jerusalem, which I believe will be in the shape of the pyramid. Well, when it comes to investing, I think a lot of people think there's really just two options, right? Obsess over the market every day or hand your money to an algorithm. them through the robots and just hope it figures things out. But there's actually a third option that gives you guidance while keeping you in control. And that's Stash. So what is Stash? Stash is a registered financial advisor built right into an app. It shows you way more than just your balance. It offers personalized next steps to keep you moving forward in any market scenario. So you

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Stash Investments, LLC, and SEC registered investment advisor. Investing involves risk. So we see the description in Revelation of the new Jerusalem, I believe is actually describing a pyramid shape. And I think we get a lot of this too. If you think about how Jesus describes himself as the chief cornerstone, you know, the language was using of the psalmist or even of jesus himself but he referred to jesus as you know peter says that this was the stone that the builders rejected all this language is pyramid language when you

do and through the design of a pyramid the capstone or chief cornerstone had to be properly measured by an architect that was the most critical piece of the ancient Egyptian architecture of a pyramid and if the measurement was off and it couldn't sit properly the builders rejected it So when you hear that language in scripture, it's directly speaking in the concept of a pyramid. And it's oftentimes, Jesus is symbolically referred to as the capstone of a pyramid. And even Paul says, you know, the foundation is the apostles. And then Christ Jesus being the chief cornerstone. And so I think it's all pointing us to the ultimate pyramid that will come down from heaven,

which is, I believe, New Jerusalem. Dang. So how old is it? I think that's fascinating that because then you look at it now and it's just like the idea that we've talked about of sort of being repurposed or co-opted. Of course it is. And in this theoretical situation where it's mentioned in the Bible because now it has this sort of a cult stuff attached to it, right?

It has the worship of Amun Ra. It has it becomes a temple to the sun god. It's sort of been co-opted and repurposed. And we've also talked about pyramids being effigies of mountains, right? So we have a series in Stranger Theology, you're talking about the cosmic mountain. And one piece of that is talking about how these effigies of mountains,

since God met with man up on a mountain, you've created, much like the Tower of Babel we talked about in our first episode, our first episode, most recent episode with you, that this was a place where, like the Tower of Babel where they were going to, in a ziggurat, they would, the God would come down and meet with him, much in the same way

that God came met with Moses on Sinai and Elijah and... But it's an artificial. It's an artificial mountain. And would... In a desert, there are no mountains. Would that be... That's right. Yeah.

Would that be a reason why other gods would want pyramids? Exactly. That's exactly why. So it's all mimicry. And the interesting thing about the Giza pyramid is it's the only pyramid of the pyramids in Egypt that has no hieroglyphics in it. There's no attribution to any God in anywhere. the Giza pyramid. And so it's the one that stands is not bowing down to the fallen angels. So I think

is another clue when you look at its construction. And in fact, so Pharaoh, Fero Chiops, who was the, the Pharaoh who constructed the Giza pyramid, the irony about him is that when you look in history, you look at Mnathos. Now we're looking at Egyptian historians, not Christian or Hebrew historians, is that he was despised in Egyptian culture. He was completely hated. And the reason why is because he outlawed all worship of the pantheon in ancient Egypt. And so he was, he was a monotheist. And so if you look, so they actually don't like him at all. And so he's someone who's not even revered.

And so again, it kind of ties in with this idea that you have this pharaoh who's not worshiping. And he's outlawing the many temples to all the various fallen angel gods of Egypt. And he's saying only worship one God. and that's who actually constructed the Giza pyramid and directed its construction. I think it points to a believer being behind it. Interesting. But there are more clues than that.

That's why it's in Egypt, though, and not somewhere else. Yeah. Yeah. Because, I mean, you would think that if it was, that's an interesting location. Absolutely. But again, I think prophetically, God is doing something in Egypt. He says it very clearly in Isaiah 19. I'm setting up an altar, a memorial to myself in Egypt that will be there when the Savior

comes to redeem the people of Egypt. So something is going to be there. Something will be there. God is saying, and we think of altar, it's something that's being constructed of stone that God is setting up there. Interesting. So is it a multi-purpose building or is it just an altar, you think? Because there's so many theories of what the thing is too. It's like it seems to have multiple functions. Yeah. So I agree. I think it had multiple functions. I think it could probably have, you know, if you think again of the Garden of Eden or the Grove, because remember the, and this, in the grove, so the first grove in scripture was actually constructed by Abraham. And then all the grows afterwards are pagan, satanic groves that God is saying, cast these down and tear them up. And so I think

it's the same idea that it probably was, could serve in a, in a form of communing with God, of harnessing spiritual energy. It certainly was connected to the stars and still is, right? The alignment of it with the stars. By the belt of Orion. Which actually points, again, to another clue as to who actually built it in the Bible. Right. It's also the only remaining or surviving ancient wonder of the world. Exactly. So the seven one is the only one that's the only one left, right? Which kind of builds into your case for this because what, the hang guards of Babylon? Temple of Artemis, statue of Zeus, mausoleum at Haliccanars. Classes of Rose, Lighthouse of Alexandria, all gone? They're all gone. But the pyramid stands.

And so, yeah. So is this like a physical representation of the truth at the end? It's just one God will stand. Absolutely. So I think one God will stand. And the other interesting thing about the Pyramina Giza, again, is that there's somebody that, to me again, keep pointing us back to Messiah. Because again, we have the representation of the mountain of God. refers to his mountain, his holy mountains.

I believe we're seeing a type in the pyramid of the holy mountain. I think, again, with New Jerusalem, I believe it's coming in the form of a pyramid, not in a cube form. What makes you think that, right? Well, I think that if you look, I think the descriptions of the dimensions allow for a pyramid shape. And then also, again, for me, you know, I lean much more old school. when you look at commentaries on New Jerusalem, again, going through the 1700s, 1800s, Christian theologians said it was a pyramid. So this is from a book called Miracle and Stone written in the 1800s, Joseph Augustus Sase.

And he said it would also seem as if God's inspired prophets knew of this marvelous pillar, speaking of the pillar that Isaiah talks about in chapter 19, and regarded it as a sacred wonder. The Greeks as early as Alexander's time placed at the head of their list of the seven wonders of the world. But Jeremiah before them wrote of signs and wonders in Egypt and of placing them there by the great mighty God, the Lord of hosts. This would seem to refer to the pyramid. Another interesting thing about the Giza pyramid is that, you know, the original, the architects who looked at it, they were still, so, you know, obviously was originally, you know, covered in casing stones. You know, it was like, it was like illuminated basically. It's white.

It had white stones on it. Yeah. Is that the fact that the casing stones, the archaeologists who first got to measure some of the case and stones that remained extrapolated that the number of, of, uh, case and stones was 144,000 in the geese pyramid. Hmm. You know, that note, we not number shows up again. Exactly. So, um, in addition to other properties, right, you also have pie being represented in the ratio of the measurements of the pyramids. You have mathematics expressed.

You have the number 144,000. When you look again into revelation at new. Jerusalem, it talks about it having the, the, uh, the measurements, 144 furlongs as, you know, the size are 12,000 cubes by 12,000 cubes. We see these multiplications of 12 in the new Jerusalem. So again, I think, you know, hardly coincidence with, um, not a math guy, but I recall some somebody, not a lot of math and the old rec major. Oh, come on. That's slow. Yeah. Dude, we were, you know, We got, we got bumped down to, on the flights of frisbees or anything like that. No.

I put into the tent together. You know, we were, we were out in the, we were out dreaming and during recess a little bit more. But, but the earth can, the mathematics of the pyramid, the earth can be put inside of it perfectly. Yeah. Um, when you shrink it down. Which is going to make some people in certain camps very frustrated. But, you know, but, you know, but a new Jerusalem, a new earth, the old one. Makes a lot of sense.

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in Job chapter one, it's very interesting. things they say about him. So it says that, you know, in Job 1, it says that there is, you know, he's a man in the land of us whose name was Job. He was perfect and upright. And this is, listen to these details, one that feared God and eschewed evil, sir in Hebrew. That means you, this is someone who is passionately against evil and idolatry. And they were born into him seven sons and three daughters. His substance was also seven thousand sheep and three thousand camels, 500 yoke of oxen and 500 she asses in a very great household. So this man was the greatest of all the men of the East. Now at that time, Ouse, which is in biblical times we think of Oos as part of Edom and Arabia,

all of that area at this time, the second millennium BC, in the 2000s BC, was a part of the Egyptian Empire. And where the Northern Kingdom and the Lower Kingdom and Lower Kingdom rather were met, that's right around where this was. So he was living in the proximity of where we know the Giza pyramid is located today. So right at the bat, that's one clue. Secondly, this is saying he was the most powerful man in the region, by far. Yeah. Right?

He says he was the greatest of all men in the east. And so what I think scripture reveals about Job is that Job was actually a king. And I think there are passages that actually reveal that. Before we get there, let's just go to the passage we know really well, Job 38. So now we have Job in this land in the exact region where the Giza pyramid was built and stands today. In Job 38, after he goes through his suffering, he loses everything. Of course, this is when now he's crying out to God and God is finally responding and saying he's challenging him to show that you, obviously God is existing on a level way beyond his own thinking. And he says, of course, in verse four, where is thou when I laid the foundations of the earth?

Declare if thou was understanding, who had laid the measures thereof, thou knowest? or who stretched the line upon it. Where upon are the foundations fastened? This is how you construct a pyramid. The Giza pyramid at the foundation has sockets that fasten into the next layer. That's how it's actually built. This is confirmed by secular archaeologists. So he's speaking in pyramid language.

And what does Yahweh say next? Or who laid the cornerstone thereof? And the morning stars staying together and all the sons of God shouted for joy. So what I think God is saying is saying, look, you want to know why this is happening to you, let me first let me show you how vast I am. You think that pyramid over here is impressive. I did this with the whole earth. I laid the foundation of the earth. I put the sockets in of the earth. I put the cornerstone of the earth. Like you may have constructed the pyramid, but I did the whole planet the pyramid sits on. And he's using this. Obviously,

this is an, he's giving an object lesson to Job. Obviously, the whole chapter is God is teaching Job. And he's using language he knows Job's going to understand. He's using metaphors. He knows Job's going to understand and he's using a pyramid. So again, this is saying God knows that Job is going to understand this. Then we go on in the chapter and what does he say? What does God say then? He says, can you bind the influences, the sweet influences of Pleiades? Can you bring forth Mazuroth in his season? Loose the bands of Orion. All the things that go in relation to the Giza pyramid. This is what God is saying. It's right. It tracks with the 12 months. the year, because it points to

due north, all these things that can be measured from the mathematics and physics and the measurements of the great pyramid. This is exactly what God is referencing. And he knows, I believe, because he knows Job is going to understand the metaphor. Because this is everything the pyramid can do, it can track.

And so, he's saying, knowest thou the ordinance of heavens can now set the dominion thereof in the earth. And who knew at that time that all the measurements of the earth can be resolved in the measurements of the mathematics. of the great pyramid, right? Pie itself. Yeah.

And so this is what I think God is getting at that Job would know this because Job was the one, was the king who constructed it. Okay. Why is it like a symbol, a sign? What do you think the purpose is? Obviously, they want to build a pyramid and not something like a geodome. Yeah. So I think, interesting.

Like in Vegas. So I think that it might have a, I think it actually. actually might take on a supernatural role in the end times. And why do I say that? Because I think that there's, when God sets up altars, that they serve a greater purpose. And one example I thought of was Joshua leading the Israelites into the land of Canaan. You know, there's this interesting ritual that the Lord tells the Israelites to do. He says, you know, take the priest, take 12 stones as you cross the Jordan River on dry land.

Because remember God supernaturally parts the Jordan River with the cross. he says, put 12 on the bottom of the riverbed, of the river floor, but then take another 12 and set them on the other side of the Jordan after you cross the Jordan. And I think obviously the Jordan River, which I believe is a supernatural portal there, I believe that's where you have so much angelic activity, the Nephilim, all those things center on the Jordan River. But I think also here it's symbolizing, obviously, them crossing into the promised land. I believe the 12 stones that were left on the floor represent those who are judged who reject

God. They get swallowed up in the flood that comes afterwards when the river closes. But then he put the 12 on the other side who made it, right? Which of course, similar as the Israelites making it into the promised land as God promised, God's deliverance. So that location in the New Testament is known as Beth Barra, the house of the crossing. John the Baptist was there. Jesus was there. That was the location where Jesus said, you know, where, you know, the Pharisees saying, oh, people are worshipping you. And Jesus said that they didn't worship these stones would, would cry out and worship me. And so God could raise, he said, God could raise up children from these stones, from the, and that was at the house, the crossing. I believe, I believe Jesus was referring to that

altar going, that Joshua set up probably a thousand or so more years, 1500 years, 15,000 years. earlier at Beth Abara. So why does this matter? What could that altar's purpose be? Right? You have 12, you have a 12 stone altar for each tribe of Israel. And Jesus said, God could raise up children from these stones to worship me if he, if he willed it. Could it be that those 12 stones for the 12 tribes are raised up in the end time with 12,000 people each who are raised up to preach the gospel of the kingdom during the Great Tribulation. And I take that back to the 144,000 witnesses in Revelation chapter 7. Because if you look at the details about Revelation chapter 7, we all talk about the witnesses. There are 144,000 from each tribe. It says in their mouth,

there's no guile. Right. It says they're virgins. They're undefiled. So it's almost like they haven't sinned. And so Scott Mitchell, someone of Unlocked the Bible, had this theory, and I kind of jumped into it about could it be that these stones actually are eventually raised up into the $14,000, that that's the ultimate purpose and destination and destiny of this altar that Joshua set up at the house, the passage of the cross and the house of the crossing. And so again, so similarly, I think if that has a purpose in the end times, could the pyramid also have a supernatural purpose as God's altar in the Great Tribulation as well in advance of the coming of the New Jerusalem from heaven. It makes you wonder.

I mean, do you think that altar is a pyramid that he's building? Like a pyramid shape? Or is the pyramid. Yeah, I think the pyramid of Giza is standing there as God's memorial. And, you know, and again, the interesting thing, another interesting detail about the Giza pyramid is that, you know, there was never a sarcophagus in it. Right. It's just an empty coffer there. That's it.

It's just an empty tomb. There was never a body in there. So again, it stands almost very similar to the empty tomb of Christ. And so, and that's what archaeologists, secular archaeologist said that was how it was originally constructed. It never had a body in it. How long did Job live? Do we know? Wow.

I don't know if we know his exact lifespan. That's a good question. I don't know if it's a... I'm just wondering how much time. It can probably be extrapolated in scripture. I don't know if it stated plainly, but it's... We could probably figure it out. But here's another quote here.

It says it's a monumental revelation in stone. It embodies in form and measurements the grandest and most exalted truths, a Bible and architecture, a witness to the Lord of Host in the land of Egypt. It says here like the internet would say that he lived at least 140 years after his trials, which would bring a total lifespan about 210 years. Some interpretations have an age of 240. particularly from the Alexandria and Septuagint. I'm just thinking like, you know, if you're building something that massive,

like how long? Oh, the time. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, how long does that take? And how do you do it, you know, with that manpower? Do you think there was help? I mean, yeah.

I mean, not one man. No, no, no. I don't think, yeah. Again, I think he, he, well, yeah, I think Job had a kingdom. First of all, I think he was ruling there. I think that's what God says and what scripture reveals. and then obviously, so, you know, they had thousands and thousands of workers working on pyramids, you know, in ancient Egypt. And could there also have been divine assistance?

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which he didn't know what's happening, of course, but it was. So he's saying right from the end of the chapter, oh, that I were as in months past, as in the days when God preserve me. So this is when life is good, when his candles shined upon my head. and when by his light I walked through darkness, as I was in the days of my youth, when the secret of God was upon my tabernacle. Now I'm skipping ahead a little bit. When I went out to the gate through the city, when I prepared my seat in the street,

the young men saw me and hid themselves, and the age rose and stood up. The princes refrained from talking and laid their hand on their mouth. The nobles held their peace and their tongue cleaved to the roof of their mouth. Unto me, men gave ear and waited and kept silent. at my counsel. After my words, they spoke not again, and my speech dropped upon them. Job is saying that when he spoke, no one else spoke. When he walked in, everyone stood up. When princes stopped speaking in his presence. So he's speaking himself as if he is above them. He's exalted above them. And then as you continue, he says, they waited for me as the rain.

They opened their mouth wide as the latter rain. If I laughed in them, they believed it not. and the light of my continents they cast not down. I chose out their way and sat chief and dwelt as a king in the army as one that comforts the mourners. And so again, he's describing itself as I was in this region, which is the ancient Egyptian empire in that time in second millennium BC, I was the king. I was the top person. And so again, I believe that he's revealing that he was the actual king. So, of course, he would have the authority to build the pyramid.

Another interesting factor that connects to this is that when you look again at the secular accounts of Chiops who built the pyramids, Herodice again also talks about the fact that the Egyptians, they hated him. We see an interesting detail, I think, that confirms this in the life of Joseph. So of course, Joseph in Genesis, gets sold into slavery, goes to Egypt. God raises him up to become. the vizier to the Pharaoh. He's the second command. And of course, this is after Job, right? Job is way before, centuries before we get to Joseph. And he, of course, in the end, reveals himself to his brothers. He saves his family. He's bringing them to Egypt. He saves them from famine. And there's an interesting detail at the very end when he's setting up his family in Egypt when they're going to live in Goshen. And in Genesis 43, we see twice this reference to this kind of racial

animosity between the Hebrews and the Egyptians. And look what they say. They say, and they set on him for him by himself, and they for themselves, his family, and for the Egyptians, which did eat with him. So this is talking about Joseph's family, the Israelites, eating with the Egyptians, but they're eating by them. They're separate. So the Egyptians are eating by themselves. This is because the Egyptians might not eat bread with the Hebrews for that and his abomination unto the Egyptians. So they felt that eating with a Hebrew was an abomination. But really, before Joseph, there weren't where we see any Israelites in Egypt. We don't really see it.

But there's this historic hatred. And it says in Genesis 46. And this is, again, a common detail. We normally just kind of, we read it, makes sense. We just kind of gloss over. It says, when they're putting Joseph's family in Goshen, and he says that you shall say, your servant's trade has been about cattle from our youth, even until now, both we and also our fathers, that ye may dwell in the land of Goshen.

For every shepherd is an abomination unto the Egyptians. So they didn't like Hebrews and they didn't like shepherds. So when you read Herodotus, he says that Chiaops was a shepherd king. Wow, that's interesting. Right. And you see this generations later, you see this Egyptians still have this, they despise Israelites and shepherd kings, I believe it's because of Job. And when you go back to Job chapter one, what did it say? He had 7,000 cattle, 5,000 sheep.

He was a shepherd and a king at the same time. And I believe is that he and he only serving Yahweh and casting down the false gods of Egypt. He's assuing evil. He's tearing down all their idolatry. He closed the temples. And again, that's the testimony of Manetho that this king, this pharaoh was the one who he took down all the pagan worship and then was hated for it. That's what led to Joseph now. When you get to Joseph generations later, the Egyptians were like, yeah, we don't like shepherds. We don't like Israelites.

We don't like anything like that because we had one guy here. He messed everything up for us because we were worshiping in our temples. We were doing our sacrifices to our gods. And he shut all that down. And he had tons of cattle and sheep. And now we don't even like that. And we don't even eat with these people anymore. And I think that ties the, that's the kind of the connective tissue as to why you have

this historical animosity towards Israelites and towards shepherds in Genesis in Joseph's time. I think this could be a secondary reason for Satan wanting to sift Job. Of course, it's like he's upright and righteous and stuff. And Satan's like, I can get him. But do you think there's some secondary motives here? If he is the king that built the pyramid and he is the one that shut down the worship of the fallen angels and gods of Egypt, then that would be a pretty big target in some ways too for the darkness to be like, this dude, this dude really rained on our parade and our party.

Yeah, absolutely. And clearly, you know, there was something significant spiritual, like Egypt, because I say it's a spiritual battleground. And remember, like, Satan already knew. He'd already tried Job because he knew there was a hedge around Job when he spoke to God. So he, so clearly he had tried him. Like, oh, I can't get to him yet because God is supernaturally protecting him. So I think, yeah, he definitely would be a high value target for the devil because he was on

this, you know, he had all this power that God had given him and he was using it for God's glory. So I think that could definitely have played a role. And then clearly there was unfinished business because even by the time we get to Moses, God specifically says, I'm judging the gods of Egypt, right? It's not just Pharaoh who's being judged in the access. It's their gods. So something was set up there from a spirit from the enemy standpoint where Satan was establishing something there that God was specifically, I'm going to take this down. And so, And so I think there's a lot of credibility to Joe being someone who the enemy would specifically target because of his influence and his devotion to Yahweh. It's very interesting.

So what's the, what is a macro story inside of this story that you see? Obviously, it feels like there's a king, a new, like a pyramid and like a fight against a temptation of towards the king who's established this. altar throne, new, new earth. Kind of like there's some language there that you could say. This is like a prophecy of Christ coming to take back the earth, you know, kind of thing. Are you seeing like a story within a story here with the pyramid? Yeah, absolutely. So I think what the story is, because again, you know, obviously Job is so unique because

we're given this heavenly conversation between God and Satan. And this goes back to in our earlier episode, what I call the cosmic trial. And I think what Satan is saying in this instance is, here's the perfect example. I'm going to demonstrate to you. And when I say the cosmic trial for the audience at home, I'm speaking of my position that what is playing out in human history is God and the devil making competing arguments for the angelic realm as to whose way is correct. God's law, the law of love.

Satan's law is really the law of compulsion, right? Because that's really what the law of the Antichrist is. obey me under threat of death, immediate death. And they're testing it out, and Satan is trying to prove that God's word is going to fail. Time and time again, this is what he's actually doing real time in heaven, right? And in fact, we talked about him being the accuser of their brethren. And Revelation says he accuses the brethren day and night. So he's relentlessly trying to prosecute Christians, believers.

And so I think when Job, what he's basically saying is to the angelic jury, here's someone who was just like me. He was given this position of power. He was given all this special privileges and blessings from God. He had all this wealth and commerce. And watch, he'll fall and make the wrongness. He'll curse God the minute he loses his material wealth. And so he's using Job as an exhibit to make his point, his case to show that,

look, and this is what he says. That, you know, if you take his things from him, he'll curse you. So I think the bigger picture, and I think that's why, you know, oftentimes people say, say, well, God didn't really explain to Job in the end exactly what was going on. He never says, hey, listen, I want you to know, in the beginning, there was a day when Satan came up with the sons of God to heaven and we had a conversation. He never tells him that because I think on the cosmic level, he was evidence. The message wasn't for him. It was being delivered at a much higher level to the angelic realm, who again, who scripture tells us are looking and trying to understand our salvation and what's happening this human civilization.

because God is saying, I'm going to show that my way is true. And those who believe in me and trust in me are doing it out of love, out of belief, out of faith, not of a fear, not of compulsion. And my way is right in the end. And so I think that's why Job is never even told because he's just part of this bigger trial that's taking place for the fate of humanity and heaven and earth, really. Is Job's life a prophecy of Christ? like he's obviously the son of God leaving heaven with everything, you know, coming down here and losing it all and then being killed, you know, Zada. And that coming, but staying loyal to his father.

Yeah, amen. Absolutely. I think I think he just found a great similar to type in shadow. Absolutely, right? And in the end, you know, his blessing is, you know, he has twice of whatever, everything he had before. So it does, you know, like he's now in the eternal kingdom, so to speak, metaphorically. But somebody had to tell them how to build this thing, you know, obviously. It's not just like, I mean, it stumps people today.

You know, every major podcast is trying to, is looking at this and going, you can be skeptical about everything else. Nephilim giants, bigfoot, all the stuff, angels, fallen angels, God. But look at this pyramid. Like, it stumps everybody. It's almost like just this rock that reminds you that you can't figure it all out, you know. And it seems to be the cornerstone, no pun intended, of a lot of discussions on, like weird discussions on like all the fringe.

It always kind of starts there, the pyramid. Yeah, well, I think it has to be divine knowledge. And in fact, it could be that God in Job 38 is just recalling the original conversation they had when he was giving them the directions on how to build the pyramid. Kind of like Noah, like Noah given the ark. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly.

Makes sense in some ways like you think about, like I said before. Like if you are going to have a mountain to meet with God, but you live in the desert, what do you do? You build one, right? I mean, you build one to in the ancient times. That's where you met with the divine. So if you're going to meet with Yahweh, you need to find a mountain. I guess you could travel. You could have traveled up or out or down wherever you believe Sinai is to there.

But like it does make sense that you create, even from the pagan point of view. that you create an effigy to a mountain where there are nuns so that you can commune with your gods. This is what the Ziggurat was, right? These are what these pyramids in South America and everywhere else are. There's the meeting place where you priest to meet with the gods. But this one's interesting and different. As Nate said, as Enigma, it's one of these things you can't. The mathematics were so advanced that we didn't, it wasn't centuries and centuries later

before they defined the mathematics that were, that are contained in this place, which is just, it's mind-blowing. So our argument is that the ancients knew way more than we give them credit for or that we think they did. We think about... Somebody got the blueprints. Yeah, and honestly, like, I think it begs the question that, like, you know, the ancient humanity wasn't knuckle-dragging folks.

No. They knew how to do some things, you know? If you go into the Met in New York, that's what they say. It's funny, there's this big gap between, like, yeah, they were just collecting some sticks. Then all of a sudden, the pyramids, man. You're like, what? What happened between those years? Well, Gebeckley-Tepi is the other one, right?

They're like, everyone's a hunter-gatherer. How all of a sudden they build? And then they're like, this is one of hundreds that are buried there. Exactly. He writes all of our history. Can we talk about a little more into, I like what you said about this is an empty tomb. This is an empty tomb. Because when we interview all the people who know about all the other burial mounds, pyramids, they bury dead bodies in them.

Yeah. so it's like they're building you know there's mounds all over america that look like little mini pyramids and all over mexico all over the you know what are egyptologists saying they think someone stole the body of kufu and that's that's so it's it's gone and empty that way and that's why would they want to defile it by putting dead body in there and being like oh well just you know I would kind of make kind of like take a jab at sacred sacred space yeah like here's our god king and he lives he lives here now for a turn I don't know yeah not I can see that but I think Job, I think for Job, he did, then he knew. And if you think about too, Job, he probably had one of the most kind of explicit direct prophecy of resurrection. You know, he says, I know that my Redeemer live with that I will see him, you know, in my flesh. He knew he was going to die. He knew he would see Jesus in the flesh. So he was really understanding resurrection power, which of course in our faith is represented by an empty tomb. And so I think this is all.

And it's all pointing to Christ, again, who is calling himself the cornerstone. Even Daniel, you know, Daniel's dream, not because of the statue, and, you know, where he has the head of gold, torso of silver, body of brass, legs of iron, feet of iron, and mary clay, which of course represents the Gentile kingdoms throughout the years down to the last end times kingdom. This is the stone cut without hands comes and destroys the satire. which of course symbolizes Christ and grows into a mountain. And so I think the stone, I think that's representing the peak of a mountain that ultimately

grows into a large, the holy mountain of God. It says that's the eternal kingdom. This is the interpretation of Daniel's dream, which of course, again, is referring to Jesus and again, evoking a pyramid shape rather than a cube shape or a rectangular shape. And so even there, I think the Bible is showing us over and over again that there is significance to this shape and that. that I believe the Giza pyramid is is that altar pointing us back to what will ultimately come from heaven.

The pyramid from heaven. Wow. So what do you think to point is all the other pyramids like are, we've kind of talked about that in the beginning a little bit, but are they, they know there's some symbolism with this. So we're not just randomly building pyramids all over the world. No. It's like a language. Yeah.

It's what the gods are doing, right? It's the lower G gods, the fallen angels, they're giving knowledge to try and always help man commune with them without going through Yahweh. I mean, that's the goal. So these are all mimicries. And that's when you see all the devotions to the various gods of Egypt in the hieroglyphics there. So I think this was a, this was a mass movement to try and replicate and tap into spiritual energy, to try and tap into go through the veil. I think that's what lots of pyramids, all the other pyramids are for. And if you even think back, I mean, I think it was around 1999 or 2000, there were some rumors

about even some U.S. leaders going out to the pyramids to do rituals on New Year's Day. I think it was 1999, if I remember correctly. And so, yeah, so I think that's the whole idea of it. And then once you even get deeper into it, obviously you can look at the dollar bill where they have obviously a pyramid with the all-seeing eye of Horace, Anuit Cueptus. So there's clearly a power that's seen on both sides of good and evil, a spiritual power that's derived from the pyramid. Many people connect the pyramids with fire. And today, the origination of even the term pyramid comes out of the idea of fire and invoking fire for spiritual purposes.

In my current research, I'm looking at that very idea of angels themselves being created from fire. You know, this is the same way Adam was formed from dust. And obviously we were told in Scripture that we came from dust, dust we return when we die. I believe that angels are created from, they were created out of fire. And this is why they return to the lake of fire, which is reserved. We're told in scripture for the devil and his angels because they have to, in their punishment, they don't return to dust. They return to fire.

And of course, we see fiery swords. We see chariots of fire. We see horses of fire. There's this representation of fire in the angelic realm. They are flames of fire. He makes them a flame of fire in Hebrews. And so a lot of that connects to a pyramid occult and pagan beliefs as well. Is this might be a dumb question, but three pyramids, Trinity language, something, some connection to the three.

This one's in the stars of Orion, isn't it? It connects. Yeah, it lines up with Orion's belt. Exactly. So, yeah. But is there any other, like, are those built later or are they built at the same time? Is there any? Yeah, I don't know if the second two were built by Chiops of the three.

But I just know the Orion connection, of course, that they're fully aligned with it. Which is wild. Like, the things that they did, like, on the astrology or astronomical, sorry, not astrology. Astronomical scale, also astrology, because you have, you know, Orion. But yeah, it's hard. It's hard with this one because everything included in this is so mind-blowing, the dimensions, the alignments, the stuff that they were to align and build something that we can't really replicate even today as far as the precision.

And that's why, as we said, it remains one of the enigmas we can't figure out. And it would, you know, it makes sense as we theorize about where this thing came from, that it would have been divine knowledge, you know, given because I don't know how else you really explain, you know, the complexities of something so. Or even why. Yeah, or why, right. You would spend a lot of time on it if there was a purpose. You just build a mini one, you know, and that would probably get it done.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But you would think that there was a spiritual reason to build it is what I'm saying. I think people took a lot more time building something. Oh, temples and all that, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

then just okay we got to build this boat just to to sustain us for you know 250 days or so we're going to build it to to last that long this thing was built to last forever oh 100% and it has I mean it's it's you know which is incredible but I just don't think you have it's not a utility you know it's like we would build something just to we need this to work for an extra you know two years you need this thing to work for an extra you know two years you need this thing to work work to run the power the city here. Let's build a generator and then we don't really care about the next generations. You know, I think that's how modern people are. Except in the 80s, man. They built stuff that lasted forever. Oh, yeah. Ryan, your lawyer.

So recap for us like your evidentiary trail so we can find the linearness. So you can you run us right back through like bullet point? We went through it in depth. But like here's the case we're laying out like, you know, for Joe being the guy. Oh, yeah, sure, sure. So obviously he's described. He's introduced in chapter one of Job as one living in the area of the Giza Pyramid to having being the wealthiest, most powerful person and obviously being devoted to God.

A king, a king, exactly. Then as you continue in Job and hear his own testimony, he describes himself before his suffering as being basically the most powerful person there in the Egyptian Empire. And he specifically references that when I spoke, princes were quiet. People stood up when I walked in the room. Everyone listened to everyone. Everyone hung on every word I said, I sat as chief and king of the army. So he's leading princes.

He's leading the army. Hmm. Yeah. He was the king. He's the guy. He was the king. Yeah. And then, you know, obviously then you combine that with the fact that God, for some reason,

other, knew that, hey, if I'm going to speak to Job, I can use a pure Pyramid's construction as a metaphor, and he's going to understand the lesson I'm teaching him about me. I'm teaching him about me and who I am in my nature by describing this construction of a pyramid, specifically. And then I'm going to talk about astronomy that all connects to the pyramid of Giza as well. And so that's how I'm building my case. And then the final thing I would say is that we touched on was what does the, what do secular historians say about? Chiops who built the pyramid. Yeah.

That he was a monotheist, that he specifically tore down all the idolatry and pagan temples that were being used in Egypt. So exactly what says about Job. He's a shewing evil. He's that he, that term sir when you use, you see that surer is used all the time when God says to cast down your idols and his commanding came to cast down idols, cast down statues, graven images, the same exact verb in Hebrew. And that's what Chiops did.

and then he builds the one pyramid that has no tribute to any God, any fallen angel in it, has an empty tomb. And again, according to secular historians, he was also hated by the Egyptian people. And then we find generations later that they hate Shepard kings and they hate Hebrews. Then we have to mention it was Jeremiah and Isaiah of the pillar. That remains in Egypt. Yeah. So Jeremiah said that there's a pillar.

that a great sign that God put in Egypt to this day, a thousand more than a thousand years later. He said there's something there that he saw with his own eyes. It's still there today. And Isaiah gave the testimony that the pillar will remain and not only will remain to his day, that it's actually going to point to the end times and the return of the Savior who's going to be in Egypt. He said, and somehow, and spark a revival in Egypt where God's going to say, Egypt is my people. And so, yeah. So rest your case. How does the Nile play into some of the things you're talking about, like the Nile River and like the prophecies around that and all the weird stuff that happened in the Nile? Yeah.

So, I mean, I think the Nile, I think, I think rivers in general are places of angelic manifestation. So, you know, judgment of the Nathom I talk about that a lot in the first book with the Jordan River. The amount of things that happened there. You know, the portal opens up at Jesus' baptism. Yep. and the Holy Spirit descends, Jacob sees the angels on the ladder going up, descending and descending.

So I think rivers in general play that role. And the Nile was one, I think, that was particularly significant because it was a part of the Egyptian pantheon. They really saw the Nile River as divine. Yeah. It turns red, obviously, you know. Exactly. So God had to really show them, I control the Nile,

not your God. There's no river God that's going to control the Nile River. I actually control it. So I think it's a part of this battleground in Egypt. And then you also have the Euphrates, which I think is very significant. Because if you go back to Genesis to Abraham, the Euphrates River was the original border, eastern border of the promised land. And so I think it's no surprise that you get to Revelation. And right before Armagedon, you have these four angels bound in the river Euphrates who come out to start.

leading a slaughter of humanity and the kings of the earth when they're lining up for Armageddon they're lining up they're mounting their forces at the Euphrates River at where God drew the battle line and say this is actually where I'm on the ancient border of Israel was at the Euphrates river. They're supposed to dry up too, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, from like a thousand foot view looking down on the pyramids, if you look down on it,

and think visually, an empty tomb, you know, the Nile's, you know, the Nile's, you know, the Nile turns red, the blood. I mean, it just seems like a visual, in my mind, I can see a picture of a prophecy as opposed to like a story version of a prophecy, you know, and then we have Moses, which is kind of like in the Nile with the boat. The ark. The ark. The little basket. The Savior is coming out of this river and this river turns to blood and that's how we know that we're, I don't know, it just seems like there's a lot going on right around the pyramid. All right, James Cameron. Yeah, I like it.

Hey, hey, God says out of Egypt, I've called my son, right? That's a messianic prophecy. So again, God is clearly showing that the Egypt plays a role ultimately in this spiritual battle that's taking place. It's incredible. And I think that oftentimes, you know, we've sat on the show that everything's co-opted, hijacked, taken over. And of course, there's probably this alternate history of the pyramid.

itself, you know, it seems to be different than, I don't know. It seems like some things are a little bit older and there's a different, there's a different, like, you know, the whole story of Genesis 6 has kind of been turned into this. I mean, if you think about that in that terms, Nate, it's like, if this is the biggest one, this there is, then of course that all the ripoffs are going to be smaller versions of, yeah, of the original, which just really feels like that's what the enemy does, right? He counterfeits everything, right? One hundred percent. And they have access, of course, to divine architecture, divine, sacred geometry and all those things. We see it, you know, with the Nephilim, with King Ogg, you know, he had 60 cities.

He built this megalopolis, the walls mounting up to heaven. So the idea that angels could mimic this stuff, I think is very easily done based on what we see in scripture of the knowledge that they have of specifically of architecture and construction. Yeah, nothing's new, right? So even they knew that. they can't build anything new so they're just going to build a copy because you don't find a bunch of randoms you see all the pyramids pyramids pyramids pyramids all build the same goes back to the OG pyramid exactly which goes back to the OG mountain right that's that's it that's it's it's crazy and I just it's it's it's there's a bazillion theories that come out around the stuff a lot of like

you said it's on the dollar bill it's part of a lot of the new age um just propaganda you know oh definitely best best way to say i mean i don't know i just never really thought about it in that sense i think we've always kind of thought about it um as christians is just this there's nothing good about it it's some sort of weird temple or you know pagan effigy pagan effigy yeah sure and i think for the most part right that's that's how it's being used um certainly again like with daubble both the all seeing eye and other pagan uses, but I think originally,

and again, why would God use, you have to, you know, God says, I lay inside on a cornerstone, chief, elect, referring to Jesus. Why would God use this, that's this pyramid language and use the cornerstone of a pyramid to refer to Jesus over and over again if it was originally bad.

Exactly. So it was originally God's plan and the enemy is just mimicking it. Just subverting it. Exactly. So there's 20 million stones from memory. And it took them by, you know, they would have to have laid one every five minutes for 20 years just to build the great pyramid. It's a, it's a mathematical monster.

And the stones themselves, is there any significance where the stones are from representing this altar? That I haven't seen yet. I just got more caught up on the casing stones when they're 144,000. That's kind of when, you know, my joy drops. Were they? So they said they were a truerre limestone. Limestone. Yeah.

And so, yeah, so that's kind of where I got really. Was the top of it? Was there a part of it that was courts on the top? I can't remember. It's conductive, though. It's like. Oh, yeah. It's like actually like can conduct me like energy conductive and then they're discovering all the stuff underneath the pyramid that's sort of the foundations of it exactly it's been weird yeah that's what kind of got me running on this when I saw some of the stories about what they were looking at potentially underneath you know whether it's structures or temples or things like there are pillars or underneath the pyramids and that's really got me on that on that track because I think the original story that came out was about pillars being you know I don't know if they were using grompent or

radar or what they were using to look under and try and scan underneath. And so pillars and then I'm like, okay, well, Isaiah says it's a pillar in Egypt. Yeah. Pillar and an altar. So is the altar sitting on top of the pillar? Because he says they're both there set up by God. And so this is what kind of started me on this whole rabbit hole of digging into the pyramid. And that's why I came to the conclusion.

I was like, you know, wait a second. Digging in. There's real. Dad jokes. Good more. Well, there's a lot of association with fire. power, electricity, pillar of fire, you know. Exactly.

Yeah. So how God, right. Exactly. God's representation. So yeah. So I think that, sorry about that. Yeah. That's what led me on this.

And I think the Bible is showing us time and time again that there's something more to it than it's just a pagan symbol. Hmm. It's crazy. Love it. When's this book coming out, Ryan? Yeah. This won't be a book.

Maybe it may be a documentary. Maybe a documentary. on it the biblical pyramid that's right a thousand dollar biblical pyramid yeah i mean i think it's incredible if it was sort of constructed as an empty tomb um like a prophecy of a physical representation of that really cool and if it was some sort of light source for the city even cooler you know just like in the light of in the darkness you know and a lot of people theorize that so i don't I don't know. It's hard.

You have to be, you know, pay attention a lot in class growing up. You did. Yeah, I did. I'll just add on that note you said about the light, you know,

New Jerusalem, right? Revelation 21 says, the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it. Right? Speaking about New Jerusalem. And again, you know, it's the city,

you know, they measure the city. It's 12,000 four loans. The length and breadth are equal. So the measurements have a lot of reflection of that 12, 12, 12, 1444,000 and it provides the light. Yeah.

So it's kind of like the best pro shop in Memphis, you know. Close. Definitely a pyramid full of light. Yeah. Definitely a rip off. You know, original. We knew 12 by 12, 12 times 12, those mad minutes when you were a kid. I always knew that was 144.

There you go. And you loved tens too. Oh, it's easy. That's when you're cooking. You're cooking when you get through the tens. You're really cooking. You were just cooking through those. But that's, you love 10s.

That's incredible. 144. Do you see that number? Last question, do you see that number anywhere else? Or is it just kind of the witnesses and the stones? Those are main places, but I mean, of course, you know, they're 12 disciples, 12 tribes. Yeah. 12 months in the year. In fact, also too, in Revelations talks about the measure being 144 cubits of the wall. And it says, according to the measurement of a man, that is the angel. So even that, I think, is kind of pointing to the fact that in our glorified state, the measure of the man and the angel are equal. So there's no longer like our cubit versus their cubit. We're all the same because we're now in our celestial bodies. But those are the main places I see it. Yeah.

And we knew about that as kids growing up in the church. You heard a lot about Egypt. That was mostly the days of the felt board. Yes. It was always Pharaoh, Moses. Yeah. I just hope there's Mexican food in the New Jerusalem. because I want to feed my celestial body good, just like this one.

Mexican food. They have pyramids in Mexico. They do. They are lesser pyramids, but their food is superior. So we'll get them out. That's true. They figured out the food part. Well, I mean, we got to take a group of people over there and see this thing.

Oh, yeah. We need to do that. That actually is on the bucket list. I'm down. Count me in. I'm down. Absolutely. I haven't been out there.

So I haven't been to Egypt or Israel yet. I'm dying to go. The Bible always foreshadows events to come and blurry. We always foreshadow trips to come. Yeah, what I'm saying? I'm going to collect on my 12,000 camels out there. And how many she asses? That was the big one.

There was a few of those. I love that, though. I think it was interesting to think about Job and the story of the story. Our first episode, you were talking about that. Like, nothing's new because these stories repeat themselves. And to think that Job could be a prophecy of Christ. is something I've never thought about. Just, you know,

stays loyal through everything, through losing it all, and coming back again, rising again from the ashes. I didn't know about the resurrection part of the story of Job. Yeah, I mean, he just propheses it. So, you know, and he says he'll see him in his body.

He's going to see Jesus in the flesh. So, yeah, he was aware of it. And also, too, there's an interesting part, too, not in Job, but about Joe. where Job is mentioned later on and God says, you know, if Daniel, Job, or Noah were here, meaning Israel, and they were in rampant sin, worshipping fallen angels, he said they couldn't save anyone but themselves. And so I think again, what those three people in particular had in common, Daniel, Job, and Noah was that they were godly believing men embedded in total idolatry,

you know, Days of Noah in Babylon. And I think, Job in the heart of Egypt, the Egyptian pantheon, which he went against and stood down. Are angels cutting the stones? You think? Oh, I think they definitely helped. Absolutely. Wow. Had to.

I mean, that's perfect. Those big beef cakes, got to put them to work. Just those perfect lasers, laser eyes. Yeah. Just slicing those stones. I mean, you know, you do the, this is dumb, but. we're having fun the copper chisels

you know the stone how do they cut them it's just yeah and someone let me know it's like it's like a one one thousandth of an inch in between two huge stones there are tons

like how is that happening you know in the year 2,500 BC even crazy there's the one where there's cut marks that aren't finished and you go

these are precision cut this is with Derek Holson stuff it's like it's wild yeah it's technology that at least we have forgotten or don't

and you know obviously there's obelis there too we could go we could keep going with all that but i don't know enough about it to know what those could represent or when those were made or if those go with the pyramids at all but a lot of weird stuff out there well well until next time keep digging that's right and a reminder listeners again about your uh your books where they can find you and the new one coming yeah um first all fellas thanks you once once again for having me on yeah it's great to be back It is great to be in the blurry studio. I love it.

This has been great. And again, so my website is Ryan Peterson.com, and that's P-I-T-T-E-R-S-O-N. And also all my social media is Ryan Peterson. So my first book, Judgment of the Nephilim, and my second book, Final Nephlim are available on Amazon on my website, you know, Audible, e-book. You can find it pretty easily. And then I also have companion study guides. I have documentaries you can find on my site.

And my new book, The Earth Before Adam, will be out hopefully this summer. I think I'll be done with it in April, May. So I'm probably have it ready to go to print this summer. So coming soon. All right, Knicks fan. Are you Giants or Jets? Nix Jets? I'm a Jets fan. I'm a Jets fan. What about Mets are Yankees? I'm the rare. There's a little misery in there and you got some, it's a victory. That's fun, man. Yeah. Yeah. But the good thing is being a Jets fan, you know, is it's, it helps you and you walk with God. Like Job, I endure the suffering. Failure after failure. Question, New York Giants, tall buildings or real giants.

Oh, good point. It's definitely a Nephlin reference. It used to be the Titans, right? Before the Titans, we're now here in Tennessee. We've digressed completely. You bring the highbrow to this conversation. I like the Titans goal out, though, right? That's right back Genesis 6.

New York pizza or Chicago Pizza? It should be an easy answer for New Yorkers. Oh, please, New York, please. That's not even a debate. That's not even a debate. even if or maybe. Well, the New Yorkers debate what's New York pizza. So that's how good it is. I don't even believe it's all, it's all just a lesser pizza than the, than the, than the, than the best pizza. It's the best piece on earth, whether you get a regular slice or you get

my favorite, the corner Sicilian slice. Oh, corner Sicilian. Yeah. After my first trip back to New York, I went and got a corner Sicilian slice. Yeah. It was just a little pizza shop near our office and I was taking photos of it in video and I said, oh, I've been waiting to have a corner of seeing slice and putting seasoning all over it and it was the best part was the pizza shop was owned by this old couple and they were having a lunch behind me and it like made their day I had no idea they saw me like videoing and me rejoicing over one slice of pizza so it was like to say an elf there's like there's like 30 raised pizzas but the real one's on the 11th yeah that's right thanks Ryan thanks fellas all right