Blurry Creatures - EP: 471 The Seven Kings of the Antichrist with Ryan Pitterson

Episode Date: October 6, 2026

What if the Antichrist is not waiting in the future, but has already walked the earth seven times? In this live-in studio episode, Ryan Pitterson opens Revelation 17 to a prophecy most teachers skip: the one God himself flags with the words Here is the mind that has wisdom. His claim is staggering. A single fallen spirit, Apollyon, the angel of the bottomless pit, has possessed one world ruler after another across history, each a rehearsal for the Antichrist to come. Nimrod. Pharaoh. Nebuchadnezzar. Sennacherib. Antiochus. Domitian. Seven kings, one spirit, one agenda, running roughly every few hundred years.From there it turns current fast. Ryan traces the same pattern straight into the present, where the image of the beast looks less like a golden statue and more like an artificial intelligence that is alive, aware, and able to know who worships it and who does not. Brain chips that promise godlike powers. A one-world language unlocked by AI translation. The groundwork of Babel, poured all over again. Recorded live in the Blurry Basement in front of a studio audience, this is Ryan at his deepest, pulling ancient texts and forgotten nineteenth-century church writings into a single thread that runs from Genesis to Revelation.Our next live in-studio taping is November 7th in Franklin, Tennessee, with Timothy Alberino on the Book of Giants, and only 30 seats fit in the room. We record these just once a quarter, and members get first access to tickets before they are gone. Join at blurrycreatures.com/members to get in the room on November 7th. This Episode is Sponsored By: https://livemomentous.com - Get up to 35% OFF your first order with code BLURRY Treat, don’t trick, your teeth this month and go to shopremi.com/BLURRY and use code BLURRY at checkout for 50% off with Remi Club. https://brooklynbedding.com - Get 30% off sitewide during the Labor Day Sale when you use promo code BLURRY at checkout! - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And when Quinn's asks where you heard about them, let them know it was blurry creatures, people. It's the best way to support the show. Image of the Beast. The groundwork is really being laid right now. Again, the false prophet's going to tell the world to create this image. But the thing about it is that it's told it's given life. It becomes alive.

So I see the image of the beast as the ultimate fulfillment of AI. It's artificial, but it has consciousness. Elon Musk did an interview talking about consciousness and AI. I can't say any way to really stop this incredible momentum of AI and robots. And how once we can merge with it through brain implants, literally said we'll have God-like powers and we'll do Jesus-level activities. Could the final Antichrist be a Nephilim or supernatural-like character rather than an ordinary human ruler? How can Christians recognize and resist the final great deception? And how does Nimrod, Genesis 6, the Nephilim, and all of these things play into the final battle and the final

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in the blurry basement. The history of our earth is so different from what we can imagine. The Smithsonian, that if they found out about a large skeleton somewhere, was to go get it. I'm going to assume at least one person is right, because if one person's right to bust the paradigm,

it all goes back to the fallen chair. And the problem with the modern day church, they have a very truncated view of the supernatural. This backdrop that's just pregnant with all kinds of meaning associated with this Mount Herman event. And this guy defects from the kingdom. That's a big deal. Welcome to the basement. You know a surprise that it's not a basement? Everybody's like, I thought it was a real basement.

Yeah, it is. It is. It is. No, it's not. It should be. Ryan Peterson, welcome, welcome back to blurry creatures. Yeah. We were talking, we were talking recently.

It was funny. Ryan, you came on super early on in the show. And then I don't know what happened. We did two episodes on the, the return of the Nephilim and the other book with Nephloom. He was like, what are these guys? What is their deal? And then we lost you. And then we found you again.

And then it's been so fun, man, to have you back in. It's amazing. Great you back. Excited for, see how far you guys have come. You know, phenomenal start and he's just taken off. And like I said, we were saying this at dinner that there's so many people who need exactly what you guys are doing. So I'm happy that it's just gotten bigger and bigger. Thank you.

And Ryan's making a huge sacrifice tonight, guys, because he's a massive Knicks fan. And if you know anything, the Knicks are having game five here momentarily. But we're going to talk about the end times, the mark of the beast, the spears of the end. The Spears of the Antichrist. We're going to get in some fun stuff tonight. Revelation 17, right? Absolutely. We have a little gift for you, though, first to kick off.

We got the tinfoil hat award for your hair. You pissed me in the back. I don't know what we're doing in Ryan, but congratulations. For being in the Nephilim space along, this is actually like EMF blocking silver. Oh, I like it. I like it. It's a real blurry creature's tinfoil hat. Here you go, buddy.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Might be a little tough. Yeah. Thank you.

And I'm the only guest that's no problem trying on my tinful hat because I have no hair to mess up. The first one. Oh, man. It doesn't like a gift in a beanie. It takes me back to like 95. I just in a car, hard jacket and Timberland boots. Those are in now, right?

The 90s are back. You got kids old enough to know that. We got those now. You can hit over the store. We have them. But yeah, we're excited to have you back. We just had our, a couple episodes of the gap theory episode was a monster episode. And everyone loved that.

And then you got a little, a little hate mail with the, the Job and the Pyramids episode. Got a little controversial. No, but it was funny. There was a few messages on that that people said that they have, we're familiar with that theory.

Theory. Yeah. And that there's like some, and we talked about on the show where there's some Egyptian, you know, hieroglyphs and stories that that can really relate back. It could,

could potentially go back to Joe being, which is really interesting. I always think we think the world is so big. It was very small. Exactly. You know, in those days. But we're not doing the pyramids. We're knocking over Zelda instead.

Where are we going today, right? We're going into Revelation, into Revelation 17, and a prophecy that isn't discussed often. It's really a mystery that God put right in Revelation 17 that is discussing the Antichrist and what I call the return of the Antichrist. It's really saying that the Antichrist has actually been on the earth already. And you know what's a mystery? because God actually says this is the mind that has wisdom when you get to it. And so anything that, you know, it's not discussed often.

This is not a, it's not an often discussed prophecy in scripture, but that's exactly where I love to go. Yeah. If people don't want to talk about it, they don't want to touch it. That's where I live. So hopefully everyone's ready to get a little deep into scripture tonight. Can we do that? Yeah. All right.

Let's get biblical. Right? Can we do that? You didn't say you were going to sing. Let's go. Special night. Like a little Marvin Gay. Yeah.

I'm here for it. So yeah, so we get started? Yes, go. Yeah, so Revelation 17, so just to set the stage, so obviously this is the apostle John who wrote this and he's, of course, in heaven, in the spirit. And so the thing about Revelation to remember that's so important is that it's written outside of time, right? God exists outside of time.

Once we're in the heavenly realm, we are outside of time. And so John, of course, is called up in the spirit. And he's told he's going to be shown. past, present, and future. So we know that he's literally being given this unique view, probably the only human being to ever really fully experience that type of heavenly perspective of being outside of time and seeing all these events happening before him.

And so in Revelation 17, we get to this prophecy where the angel that's escorting John through heaven, he shows them, of course, the vision of the beast. And we all know the beast vision with the seven heads, the ten horns. And so he gets to a point where the angel's going to interpret and explain what is this beast. What does it mean? What's going on here?

And this is where we get to this prophecy. And so Revelation 17 and verse 7. So this is the mystery. So the angel is saying, I will tell you the mystery of the woman who, of course, is riding the beast. And the beast that carries her, which had the seven heads and ten horns. And he says, the beast that thou sawest was and is not and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit and go into perdition. And here is the mind that has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the women sits.

And there are seven kings. And here we get to the real mystery here. Five are fallen. One is. And the other is not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short space. and the beast that was and is not, even he is the eighth and is of the seven and goeth into perdition.

So there's a lot here, right? So the first thing is that we're seeing that the angels explaining this beast and it's explaining it as the heads being kings. And that specifically seven kings that lead to an eighth. And so one, we see that this is obviously something that God is saying is very important because they're saying here's the mind that has wisdoms of God, saying really think about what's being said here. And then it says, again, that the way it's describing these kings,

and this is the whole idea of the return of the Antichrist, it's saying that they've lived in a sequence. It says five are fallen, meaning at the time that John is writing Revelation, the angel saying five of them are dead. One is, meaning one is that was alive at the time of the writing of Revelation. One more is to come, who's going to be in rulership for a short time, And then the eighth is the actual Antichrist. And he says he's of the seven and goes into perdition.

And so a couple of things here, we see one, that the Antichrist is being described as an inversion of Jesus Christ, right? Jesus says, I'm the one who was and is and is to come. It's expressing his eternality. He says, I'm the beginning and the end in Revelation 1-8. where here we're seeing the Antichrist as the one who was, meaning he was alive, is not and yet shall be. He will send out of the bottomless pit. So he's going to be, so he leaves, he dies, meaning being put in the abyss for a period of time.

But I believe what this prophecy is saying is that he's been, he's had recurrences. It's describing seven incarnations of the Antichrist, where this spirit has been permitted to leave the bottomless pit and indwell seven leaders throughout his. history and the eighth culminating with the eighth who's the actual antichrist of the great tribulation. Oh. All right, Ryan. You just like to read your book and hear your Bible on Shakespeare. Yeah. I'm into it, dude.

Is there any origin story for that spirit that keeps going, you know? Yeah. So, so one, I'll just say, you know, the spirit. Who is this spirit? Who is this angel, right? There are four angels named in the Bible, right? Of course, you have Michael, Gabriel, the two righteous angels, the two archangels. And then, of course, you have Satan, Lucifer, and Apollyon.

Yeah. The angel, the bottomless pit. And so I believe he is the angel who is recurring and God is allowing to emerge and do this indwelling. And then ultimately indwelling and then ultimately indwell and possess the Antichrist in the Great Tribulation. So that is, so we're going to look at it. Well, if this is the case, and who are these kings? I call them the mystery kings. And so just to show the church understanding of this, you know, there was, for those who might, if you're familiar or not familiar with my writing, I'd like to quote lots of ancient texts, ancient Christian theologians, theologians from the 1700s, the 1800s.

And so there was one magazine in the 1800s called The Rainbow. And I've quoted this magazine many times. This was the blurry creatures of the 19th century Christian church because everything was on the supernatural. And they wrote about this exact passage. And they said, the beast that's described here lived before the days of John, did not live in John's day and should live again at some future time coming up from the abode of the dead for that purpose. So this is again something that the church understood and had an understanding of.

The rainbow. The rainbow. They don't want a brand these days. But, uh, yeah. Not this month. No. Just kidding. Yeah.

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Yeah. So that time in history, especially in England, you had a lot of Christian magazines that were really exploring the supernatural, the angelic realm and really challenging the understanding the supernatural aspects of scripture. And then also too, I think that. a big part of understanding the Bible comes from the ancient Hebraic understanding of the Bible where God is repeating events over and over again. And so I think we've kind of lost that

in the modern church and the way we interpret the scripture, but God's constantly saying, he says in Jose, I use similitudes. Of course, in Ecclesiastes, there's nothing new under the sun, right? It says the thing that has been

is that which shall be. And so this is an example, unfortunately, from the fall in angelic perspective of how we're seeing this repetition ultimately leading to the Antichrist. And if you think about it again, the Antichrist obviously is mimicking Jesus Christ in every aspect. All throughout scripture, we see foreshadows that point to Jesus, Joseph, David, Moses. They're all clear types of Jesus. And so I think when we look, we're going to see that there are clear types of the Antichrist that point to them.

Ron, do you think these are, you're a big Nephlam guy, right? So are we, you talk about, is it a possession by the spirit? Or do you think there is some hybridization? Like, will it be a hybrid? If they're mimicking Jesus, then when we see a hybrid son of Satan, maybe that may have them reading the head, but like, how do you see this as far as the spirit coming up? Is it going to be a, we're talking about a physical being that's like a, like a Nephilim?

Or are we talking more about a possession, like when Satan enters Judas, right? Exactly. So I think ultimately it's possession, but in the end, it starts this possession that ultimately results in anephalum. So in the sense that, yes, I think they're being possessed. Was I'm like Nimrod where he became like a gibbering? Exactly. Exactly. I don't want to read ahead, but I like where this is going. Yeah. Yeah.

So, but that's a perfect example, right? We know that Judas was literally the only person in scripture possessed by the devil, possessed by Satan right at the last supper right before he went to go get the Roman authorities to arrest Jesus. And also, by no coincidence, how did Jesus refer to Judas? He calls him the son of perdition. When he's praying in John 17, he says, kept all the disciples, all you gave me, Father, except for the son of perdition. So, of course, which is the same title given to the Antichrist by the Apostle Paul.

So, yes, I think that's also a picture of what's happening to these rulers throughout history. And I think, again, when we look at them, we're going to see clear foreshadows. They have Antichrist written all over them. And so... What do we begin? Why don't we begin with Nimrod? There we go. So, yeah, so who is Mystery King number one?

Nimrod and, and Benny, you can pull up the Nimrod graphic if you want to do that. But Nimrod, of course, we're talking about Tower of Babel, Genesis chapter 11. He's the first post-flood empire, right? And so, emperor. And even in his introduction, we start seeing shades of Genesis 6 and ideas of this. Why? Because it says that he became a mighty man in the earth. He was a gibberim.

And so this is always a term we see used to refer to one. It's the Nephilim in Genesis 64 called the Mighty Man, the Metaphor noun, which is Gibram in Hebrew. And it indicates supernatural ability, superhuman ability. But also when you go to the Septuagint, the oldest version of the Old Testament, it just calls him a giant. He began to become a giant. Is it if something happened to him that started to merge him with the fallen angels. So that's the first thing about him. And then, of course, when you look at the Tower of.

Babel, what's happening? It's an attempt that says the whole world was gathered in one place, and what are they doing? They're trying to erect this tower that I believe is the goal of it was to open a portal to the heavenly realm. That's what they were attempting to do. So you have this one world order under one leader, you have one world religion. I think what we're trying to do, bring back the days of Noah, trying to bring back the fallen angels and unlock a supernatural power. And how can I say this? Well, of course, in that same chapter, when God, Yahweh is finally commenting on this and looking down,

he says that this thing they're doing, if they continue in this, there's nothing that will be restrained from them, which they imagine to do. So literally, they were unlocking a power by unifying the world, which, by the way, is exactly what the Antichrist is trying to do in the end times. He's trying to do this exact same thing that they're going to unlock a story.

supernatural spiritual power that I think would put them on part to actually try to launch an attack against God. Wow. Yeah. So right of the bat, we see a lot of Antichrist parallels and foreshadows in Nimrod. We always said, though, that it doesn't really make a lot of sense. They're just built in a real tall building. Like, God's, like, mad about that.

But it's fascinating to think about some of the things that we've heard, like, is sort of the, they're trying to find the same. the tomb of Gilgamesh or Nimrod in Iraq. And there's this whole, you know, FOIA act where we find that Hillary Clinton's looking for this. And this is the guy that if you believe what God says here, that he, they were on the verge of essentially maybe opening Pandora's boxing that could not be closed. Which is fascinating, right?

Because you have, you do have this. It feels like the first, the stories always are that they tell you the end of the story at the beginning of every movie, right? Nate talks about this all the time. Yeah. And here you have the first king, and they're telling you the end of the story. This is going to happen again. But what makes the difference between like just a regular evil ruler and someone like Nimrod?

I mean, is he, how does this Polyon spirit get into them? Do they, you know, is he doing ceremonies to bring that in? Yeah, exactly. That's what I think. And that's what I think. And that's pretty much what I say, you know, the language saying that he became a giant, really kind of indicates that something happened to him. And definitely, you know, I quote one of the Andrew Clark's commentary, again, from the 19th century.

He says he says he had the spirit of the angels in the days of Noah was indwelling him. So again, the church saw some connection between him and the fallen angels. And not to mention, too, his name means, let us rebel. We see the prophecies in Micah, chapter 5. It talks about speaking about the Antichrist. it's saying that Jesus will deliver Israel from the land of Nimrod, speaking about the end time. So again, it's associating Nimrod directly with the Antichrist. It's a wild thing to see.

Yeah, absolutely. And in my current research right now for my current book I'm working on, which deals again with the pre-ademic rebellion, the fall of Lucifer, I still talk about this concept because this has been Satan. Satan's plan all along, right? That this, the power they're trying to tap into in the Bible. Because if you think about it, obviously, the Antichrist's purpose is to try to not destroy humanity, he's trying to recruit humanity. He wants the worship of the world to then launch a war, obviously, against Jesus at Armageddon.

So how can he, how does Satan think he's going to win, right? How? Right. He's already outnumbered. He only has a third of the angelic armies. So he's already outnumbered from a pure military standpoint. two to one, I think the key is everything that happened here at Babel, that there's something about bringing a population together in one one unified mind, one collective consciousness that's

unlocking this power. I think that's why he needs the worship of the earth. He wants, he doesn't want to destroy him, man. He wants to manage to worship. And I think for this exact purpose to unlock this power again and revisit what they were trying to achieve at Babel. And you think about where we sit currently? like we are in a time when there could be a one world language with the use of translation technology AI all these things that play into I mean you can you can wear a headphone now that'll translate you and I could be talking in Portuguese and they can understand it with a I mean there's this we are at a time now where this feels achievable if not already here and

sort of the technology wise to united people it just has to be an impetus I'm I'm sure that's what you talk about at the end. But I think it's interesting, right? Because when else in our history have people been able to talk to each other of different languages, dialects, and without, you know, learning going to Rosetta Stone and learning all the languages? Exactly. And there's a whole field about this, you know, noetic sciences. Luke, do you remember the story of the giant Denisovan tooth? Yeah.

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idea, mission, that there's an actual supernatural energy. So I think it's exactly what's happening. And even when you look at the Tower of Babel, all it took. God has to come down from heaven, but all he had to do was confuse the languages and the whole mission stopped. So clearly there was the unity through language is what was actually leading to the threat. So once people were scattered, it's like, okay, we're done here. Who comes after Nymra? Pharaoh of the Exodus. And Ben, you could put that, the Pharaoh illustration up there.

So one, you see, obviously he's very evil, right? He's genocidal oppressor of. the Israelites. He's from the beginning, he's trying to thwart God's plan of salvation by throwing the male babies into the Nile River ordering their execution. And really, again, when you look so much of the Exodus is a preview of the Great Tribulation, right? You have this king who's standing against God, who defies God, and then you look at the judgments of the Exodus, right? You have obviously water turned to blood. We have that in Revelation and the Trump. Judgment of locusts.

You have that the fifth trumpet. Darkness. Boils on the skin, sun burning. So you see, so there's many, many, many parallels that we see. And all is summed up in this king who, again, is defying God who thinks he's also the son of raw. Right? Every pharaoh, when they wore the Eretis, the serpent, you know, he also has a crown the serpent coming out of his forehead.

So slightly satanic symbolism there. But also that symbolized the serpent divinity lineage, that he was the offspring of a god. And so a hybrid in himself. And we look at Apollyon in the Old Testament. I believe he's referenced in the Old Testament as the Assyrian. When we see these passages and prophecy about the Assyrian, that's talking about the exact same angelic being.

And in Isaiah, 52, Isaiah says that when Israel went down to Egypt, to sojourn there, speaking of the time of the Exodus, it says the Assyrian oppressed them without cause. So Isaiah is just referring to the Pharaoh of the Exodus as the Assyrian. And again, in Isaiah 10, which is all about the Antichrist oppressing Israel in the end times, he says, be not afraid of the Assyrian. he will smite you with the rod and lift up his staff against you after the manner of Egypt. So again, we're seeing these parallels. And of course in Revelation 11, Mystery Babylon, the headquarters of the Antichrist is referred to as it's spiritually known as Sodom and Egypt. So again, we're just seeing that this is a clear typology, a foreshadow of Antichrist in the Pharaoh. It's interesting too.

Like, as you read this story, they have the murder of the innocence, right? It's this idea of in the same way that Herod does to try to prevent Moses, really, right? This is the story. Moses is the archetype of Christ that's going to release his people out of Egypt. And Pharaoh is trying to wipe out all the boys of Israel. And then we see Herod do the same thing when he's told that the king of the Jews is here, right? Exactly. And it's like it's, yeah, those parallels are, I mean, you can't, I don't know how you miss them.

Yeah, no, 100%. And even down to the last plague, because the last plague, the death of the firstborn, right? Farrell lost his firstborn in that last plague. Well, again, the Antichrist, I believe is the final Nephilim. I believe he's the literal hybrid offspring of Satan. Ultimately, the last judgment is going to be his death.

So Satan will lose his firstborn at Armageddon. As soon as Jesus shows up, Antichrist is dead. So the parallels go even down to Armageddon. It's wild. So you believe Satan, like, knew, like, he wasn't going to be successful with these first couple of guys? Or was he just keep trying? I think he keeps trying, right?

That's the devil's method. And if you think about it, too, so many times the devil's using the exact same strategy. Like, I say all the time to people, I'm like, you know, you have to remember the Fall Angels is much older than we are, right? These are advanced beings who've lived far along. So they just literally run the same exact strategies on the next generation at the next generation, because we're the ones who are leaving. We're the ones at the short lifespan.

So they come back. So I think he's just going to keep trying. So this is kind of like a test. Like we're working it out, working out the kinks, throw this guy out there. And then we'll... 2.0? Yeah.

Trying to like just make the little tweaks and then maybe we'll get it right at the end. I don't know. It just seems interesting that he keeps... He continues to try the same thing. It's the same playbook. Yeah. Just run it back, right?

That's it. That's it. That's it. So Farrow, what... Is there any other distinct language or things that he did that make you think that he's part of this crew, that just not being an evil leader in that regard? Or there's some other kind of witchcraft or something involved that? Well, I mean, I think he was also, I mean, they had an occult kingdom.

They were completely in worship of the fallen angels. In fact, the ex is the only time you really see God make a statement that he was judging Egypt and their gods with the 10 plagues. So they were clearly, I think, 10 fallen angels specifically that God was taking direct aim at with all those plagues as well. So this is a truly satanic, occult, fallen angelic human kingdom at an operation, which is exactly what the Antichrist's kingdom is going to be. It's going to be fallen angels, hybrids and humans working together against God. Okay. You're switching gods and fallen angels kind of the same, you think the same thing, basically. Oh, yeah, of course.

The lower G gods of the ancient world and the present world are the fallen angels. Absolutely. Yeah. All right. Who's number three? Unless you want to keep time. So it's like a top ten list. I love it.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm the number three song in America. Exactly. Number three. And this one might start really driving home this pattern we're seeing in scripture. So number three is Nebuchadnezzar. Right?

So I'm seeing some nods already. You can starting to see the picture here. So of course, Nebuchadnezzar, the king of Babylon. Again, another oppressor of Israel destroys Jerusalem in 586 BC, destroys the temple, the temple of Solomon. So again, we know the Antichrist is going to desecrate the temple of God at the abomination of desolation. So right off the bat, lots of foreshadows here of the Antichrist.

This Antichrist spirit is operating in him. But then there's more. So what do we see in Daniel 2 is that he erects a statutes. And so is he, right? The statue in the plain of Dura is Shadrach, Meshach, and Abendigo, the famous Sunday school story where he sets up a golden image of himself and says, worship me or die. Right. So exactly what the Antichrist is going to do in the end times with the image of the beast. You must worship the image under penalty of death. Right. So clear foreshadow there. But additionally, when we look at the details about the statue, it was 60 cubits high. six cubits wide, and how did you know when to worship? Six instruments played. That's what they list there. So he has six, six, six.

The number of the beast is entirely captured in scripture, in the description of his statue, his image that he set up to worship for worship of himself. So lots of things there. And then also, too, in Daniel four, we see he has the dream, right? He has the dream where he, of course, he's, you know, he's really a true tyrant, right? Because he tells the wizards and the, the magi and the Chaldeans. He says, you know, I've dream to dream, tell him my dream, interpret it. Interpret my dream.

I'm not going to tell you what it is. Yeah. And if you can't figure it out, everyone dies. Simple. And I'll turn your homes into a dumb heap. So, you know, very good boss to have. And so, of course, Daniel prays. And of course, Daniel's the only one, right?

The satanically led wise men cannot do this. But God, of course, blesses Daniel. And then he warns him. He said, the dreams about this tree that's chopped down. He says, you are the tree in the dream. And the interesting thing is there's a punishment that's being threatened to him. And it's by decree of the watchers. The watchers say that if he don't, if he doesn't repent, the tree will be hewn down.

They'll put an iron band on it. and he'll be punished. And his punishment was he was turned into a hybrid. He was literally turned into a human animal hybrid where he says he grew claws, he had fur, he had feathers, and lived outside in nature for seven years.

So you have this king of Babylon who was a man and a beast for seven years, right? So we see this is exactly going back to Revelation 13. He's a man, but he's the beast. Yeah. Right? He has the number of a man, which is the number of a beast.

The language goes back and forth because he's a hybrid as well. And so this is exactly what happened to Nebuchadnezzar in his judgment. You know, some of the guys in the Bible, Nate, they had some really odd things for sleeping. Rocks for pillows. We're talking about Jacob. Yeah. John. That's how they did it back then.

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brokenbedding.com promo code blurry. How much time goes between these different, is there like an equal amount of time or is it sometimes they pop up a little quicker? You start in Genesis 10, right, with Nimrod? And then you get a little time goes by. To Exodus. Yeah, it's Daniel. Yeah, good question.

So I guess we're looking, yeah, so from Exodus to Nebuchadnezzar, although we have one in between, yeah. So it's about every 500 years, as we're going to see, 500 to 900 years, these beings just reemerch. Yeah, the Nebuchadnezzar story is always the weirdest one. It's kind of sounds like he, some kind of cryptic. And he eats grass. It's like the wind ago, the ancient wind go.

They're just eating grass. Yeah. Yeah. So, but it's amazing. I don't understand that one. I love this passage, too, because this is one of the places in the Bible. We have the actual terminology of the Watchers, too, which, of course, you know, is something we talk about in the show a lot.

We talk about the watchers being named in Genesis 6 and the Inoccian tale. And then the way that works and you have it here. So we learn a little, they get these little nuggets, right, about the angels. We have this conversation at dinner. Like we don't get a whole lot of info. We know there's seraphim and terrafim and the O one and watchers. But these are just like sometimes it's job descriptions. And sometimes it's like they're a little bit serpentine or they're a little bit not, you know,

or the creatures around the throne. And there's just a big mystery on what? Redheads? That's right. No, that's right. David was ruddy. He's ready. He's ready.

So there is some like a little bit of hybridization going on with these. Isn't that interesting that when the watchers are involved and this is their judgment that they decreed it involves altering the genetics and making a hybrid? So again, and a human animal hybrid, which, you know, you look in the book of Jubilee, it says it explicitly that the watchers. contaminated and alter the genetics of animals, not just the sons of God fornicating with women, but animals were also hybridized. And I think that's why in scripture, when we see God instructing Noah and he says, bring on four-footed beasts after their kind, bring on cattle after their kind that he's using genetic language, meaning I want the horses and the cows that I made. I don't want the hybrids. I don't want the centaurs, the minotores. I don't want those on the ark.

I want my animals that I actually made after they were kind. Little people snuck on though. They did. They're hard to find. They build little boats. They made it. They just towed along. We bring the serious, you know, conversations.

We're serious doctors. Well, it's interesting. I mean, I think that, you know, these are the stories that we always skipped over it. Or we read them and then we're like, and then we're moving on. You know, we're not going to talk about that. But it's not like a full-blown. It's not the language. isn't like there's full boom hybrids like genesis six almost it's a little bit like they were doing

something and then they slowly kind of it feels more like nimrod yeah yeah it's like they or that that wasn't they or that wasn't their species if you well yeah like exactly they sort of became that thing right it just transformed him supernatural is it a little bit partially on how that happens this fasting yeah kind of go down what are they doing yeah what do you think are they like resurrecting old knowledge that was passed down. Absolutely. I think they're doing the, ritual.

Their angelic form of CRISPR, right? Just going into the DNA and somehow figuring out how it alter it supernaturally. We just did like a two-hour episode with Gary Wayne and he kind of said like these, some of these giant tribes knew how to do it. They just knew how to, they knew how to come back and there was more mixing going on. And he's a very big second incursion guy. But it kind of made you think that like that tinkering didn't stop. It wasn't just in Genesis 6.

it kind of kept, they kept trying it again and again. But, um, and still trying. Yeah. You look at the, you know, UFO phenomenon of abductees and the constant reports of things happening to people's wounds, ovaries, DNA, right? It's all very DNA focused and reproductive focused when you hear of these abduction accounts. I was going to bring that up, but I thought it was maybe too soon, but it felt like, yeah, like in terms of trying, perfecting, that seems what's going on with the abduction phenomenon.

It's like there's, they're figuring. something out. They're trying things. Yeah, they're not giving any circumcision. They're doing a little more advanced. A little more advanced. That was perfected a long time. My Bible's pretty specific on that. I feel bad for Moses's wife. We haven't done an episode on that yet. Oh, my gosh.

You've got to get circumcised now, Moses. We did joke with Judd and Doug to do an episode on circumcision. We did text them back. And they passed. Well, they said yes, but not really. They're like, yes, but we don't have enough information to do it. Anyway. Okay. Number four.

You've got to have fun after all these years. You know, if you can't have fun, what are you doing? Absolutely. Absolutely. Especially with those guys. It's a good circumcision joke. Get them going. It's blurry.

It's weird. Nobody understands it. Let's keep going. I don't want to keep bringing it up. I mean, you haven't let it die. You won't let it die. Yeah. Come on, Ryan.

Let's go. All right. Let's cut to the next one. I guess I'm skinning the game. Number four on our countdown today. The fourth mystery king is Sinakereb, who was king of the Assyrian Empire. And again, not often discussed, but again, if we think about the name for this angel, I believe Apollyon, again, is names the Assyrian.

That is the name he's given in the Old Testament, and specifically in Ezekiel, chapter 31, which I believe is all about the pre-flood world, right? And Ezekiel 31 is talking about the rise and fall of the Assyrian. And I've put it as a passage that's just like Isaiah 14 or Ezekiel 28, where it's the king of Babylon, but God is really speaking to Satan and speaking about Satan. Inzekiel 28 is the king of Tyre. It's exact same thing when I call it esoteric passage. But here it's talking to presumably the emperor of Assyria, but it's speaking to an angelic being. I believe he's speaking to. Apollyon as the Assyrian, and it talks about him, again, just like Ezekiel 28, being in the

Garden of Eden. And it talks about the flood and when he was judged and how he was cast down into the abyss when the flood abated. So I think there's lots of biblical evidence that that's the Assyrian. And here, of course, Sinakrab is an Assyrian empire. So right off the bat, he has some foreshadows and connection to the Assyrian. And also, too, he was an oppressor of Israel. He, of course, destroyed the Northern Kingdom of Israel and destroyed them and took them into captivity before trying to attack the Southern Kingdom. And so there's something interesting that, so they defeat the Northern Kingdom. And now, of course, the Southern Kingdom is scared. They're mounting up to battle.

He's over 160,000 troops mounted up. And then something interesting happens. Sinakrab sends his vizier, Rakhshaba, to come speak to. to the Israelites. So he's standing outside of the walls of Jerusalem, and he speaks in Hebrew, and he says something very interesting. Rather than just threatening them with death, he says he makes them an offer. And he says, speaking on behalf of Sinagreb, he says, and this is Isaiah 36, he said, make an agreement with me by a present, come out to me, and eat everyone off the vine and from the fig tree and drink the waters of your own cistern,

and I will come and take you away to your own land, a land of corn and wine, a land of bread and vineyards. So he's offering his, it's like basically offering another second offer, a counterfeit offer of a promised land. And so what I think is happening here is that, because basically just surrender.

We don't want to fight. Just give up and we'll take care of you. Make a covenant with us. And so it's almost like not only is it a foreshadowed the antics, It's also a foreshadow of the false prophet. Yeah. Because the false prophet's whole purpose is to try and bring the world into, he's the one who's saying, this is the Messiah,

this is the one you've been waiting for. And so it's really, really fascinating that he makes a mockery of God's own offer of the promised land. And then we have this interesting language when God's finally responding through Isaiah, back to Sinakurab. he says, I'm going to put a hook in your nose and a bridle in your lips. And I'm the one who pulled you over here. He's saying, you think you came to Jerusalem on your own. I put the hook in your nose and dragged you over here.

And so I'm saying this because this is the language we see about that's God, the exact same type of language God uses referring to God during the God of May God War. He says, I'm going to bring you into my land to defeat you with a hook in your snout. And so, of course, what happens is ultimately their armies are mounted up. And the angel of the Lord, I believe is Jesus Christ, comes and wipes out 168,000 troops on his own. Coming down from heaven to wage war and wipes them all out in the night. It's wild. Exactly. Exactly. Takes them out. So again, even the fact that we see this repeated pattern of God comes down and sends a judgment from heaven to judge these kings and punish them. we see, again, four shadows of Antichrist.

And so he kills all their soldiers, but, you know, Sinakrab escapes. And then what does he do? He flees back to Israel and go, I'm sorry, back to Assyria and goes immediately to a temple of the god Nisrock. And there he's murdered. So he dies, he immediately goes back to try and worship a fallen angel and he's killed literally in the temple before his idol. Interesting. So who gets him? His son.

Sorry, Dad. Are they all hostile against, you know, God's people? Oh, absolutely. And that's the thing. And in fact, when you look in that chapter, it's amazing because repeatedly in that chapter in Isaiah 36, they tell, Isaiah, they're telling Hezekiah and Isaiah and Israel to say, don't call on God. Don't pray to God. They specifically say, do not pray to your God. he cannot rescue you come to us so i mean this is really straight out of the antichrist playbook

so you have babylon egypt syria and uh where are we going next babel babel babel in baby babel yeah absolutely let's get to number five i don't think most people know who last one was though yeah i know it doesn't get a lot of a lot of press but uh snackrab was actually a pretty important figure. I mean, he defeated the other kingdom was destroyed and never came back after Sinakereb attacked them. Yeah. So it's kind of a bad dude. Yeah. Famous. All right. Number five

is Antiochus Epiphanes who was the Greek ruler over Israel during the time of the Maccabees. So you're looking at the book of Maccabees. This is where it really talks about him. But he's also referenced in scripture. So in Daniel chapter 11, when it's talked discussing, you know, the quiet centuries, right? Daniel's prophesying all the things were going to happen after the Old Testament ends up until the Gospels. And basically, the

division of Alexander the Great's Kingdom, it's by the four kings and what happened with the Seleucid Empire who would rule over Israel. And Antichus Epiphanes was, again, major oppressor of Israel. You read in the book of Maccabees that he outlawed Judaism, completely. It was, he banned the Torah, banned worship of God, banned the Sabbath, and basically would kill anybody who tried to practice Judaism in Israel when he ruled over it. Then he has his name, his title, Epiphanes, means God manifest. So he literally declared himself a God ruler. And he was actually the first Greek ruler to do that, to make himself a God king. And so what is he also known for? So during his reign, after he outlawed Judaism, he went into the temple, and this is the second temple now of God,

and he sacrificed a pig on the altar. He sacrificed a pig to Zeus. And so this, of course, was the first abomination of desolation. And so when Jesus is referring to the abomination of desolation, he's the original one was this event when Antiochus Epiphanes did this in the temple of God and desecrated the temple. And of course, if you read Maccabees, this would lead to the Israelites fighting back and recovering the temple, which led to the Hanukkah. This is where Hanukkah comes from, most of the cleansing of the temple and the lights. Of course, the menorah stayed lit for all those days, and while they cleansed it, and the feast of the dedication, which Jesus celebrated in John 10.

So this is where Hanukkah comes from. But of course, this is, again, what we see as a foreshadow of. of Antichrist. He's also mentioned as the Little Horn in Daniel chapter 8. And interesting thing about Zeus. So in Revelation, when Jesus is writing the letters to the churches and he speaks to the church in Pergamus, he says, you know, I know where you dwell and where Satan's seat is or throne is. And of course, that Satan's throne there, that's the, the altar. of Zeus in Pergamus. So he directly connects Zeus with Satan, and this is who Antiochus was making his sacrifice

to. And of course, we know in the end times that Jesus prophesied, this is exactly what the Antichrist is going to do. When he goes in to the temple, the third temple, he will proclaim himself God and set up his image, the image of the beast in the temple, which is the end times abomination of desolation. What happens in Antichus? Does he end up?

Does he grow feathers? Does he get a brutus where he gets stab in the back? No, so he actually died suddenly from a bad disease. So he actually died in a very quick, brutal fashion. But also, interesting, in Daniel chapter 11, when it gets to this section that's talking about him, it says that he will do wickedly against the covenant of God, is going to divide God's covenant, but he will win the people over. flatteries. And one thing that Antiochus did was he was bribing a lot of the priests at that time

to give up Judaism and join his religion, which they did. So again, we see like the falling away, the apostasy, right? Again, this is a part of the Antichrist's mission. It's not just to kill. It's actually to win people over, to abandon the faith and follow what? Doctrines of demons? Follow him. And so he was successful in that as well. Is there a long time between the last two? kings. So is this the longest chunk of time? Yeah. So no, no. So this is, so this is probably around 200 to 150 BC. Okay. So we go from a Syria as a Greece. Yes. As far as the imperial power. Yes. What power are we going to next? Rome. Absolutely. That's go.

When in Rome, Ryan? When in Rome? King number six is Demidion. So, he was the emperor who actually exiled John to the island of Patmos where he wrote Revelation. And so how do we know this is from Ironaeus? Ironaeus was a church theologian in the second century who was a pupil of Polycarp. Polycarp was a pupil of the Apostle John who wrote Revelation. And Irenaeus recorded that it was Demetian who sent John to Patmos in around 96 AD. So again, when we get to this prophecy, right, the Bible says, the angel explained to Johnny.

He said five are fallen, five are dead, and one is. Meaning one of them is alive right now at the time, at this time. So again, 96 AD, so again, which I believe is Demidion. And so what do we see in Demidion's career? Well, he built the Arch of Titus, which is now commonly known as the Ark, the Triumph in France, which happens to be the most replicated monument in the world. and it's actually a celebration of the defeat of Jerusalem.

It's actually celebrating the destruction of the temple in 70 AD by Titus Vespasian. So it's a tribute to him. And not often seen that way because we celebrate it. We think it's a great thing, but it's actually a celebration. And when you look at the actual carvings on the Ark to Triumph, you can actually see there are actually carvings of the Roman soldiers carrying the menorah when they took it out of the temple. So he was definitely an end.

enemy of God's people and the enemy of the temple. He also declared himself Dominus A Deus. So he also declared himself a God. So that means our Lord, our God. He not only did he persecute the church, like sending John to Patmos, he also hunted down the relatives of Jesus. And so this is recorded in church history that he actually sought to execute the children of Jude, who of course was the half brother of Jesus, and so murdered Jude's children and grandchildren. Wow. Yes, exactly. So definitely a very, again, big enemy of God and Robert Govitt, who's a very renowned Entom's prophecy commentator in the 19th century, he pointed right to him. He said, the sixth predecessor of the wild beast is none other than Domitian

by whom the apostle John was banished to the island of Pabmos. So he wrote that in 1843. So again, direct identification in the church of him as one of these recursions of the beasts. Is he ruling when they destroyed the temple? No, he was emperor after. After, okay. Who was the emperor then?

Do you remember? I don't know. The Jesus' prophets of the temple would be torn. No stone would be unturned, and it was, what, in 70 AD? 70 AD. Yeah. All right. So who is the next seventh?

Are you done? Are you done with this guy? But the old God came. Enough of him. So he was alive, though, at the time. He was alive in 96th, AD. Yeah. At the time of the writing of Revelation, he was the emperor of Rome.

So he was the one who is, meaning he is alive at this time. Okay. And then he's saying, one's coming in the future? The seventh is the one who says is to come and continues a short space. Okay. And so I believe the seventh who is not yet arrived on earth, I believe is going to be Gog of the Gog-Megog war. So why is that? So we think about Gog-M-Megod, and we think of Russia, Putin, Iran.

But however, Gog, I believe, is described as a being who's not actually human. the way he's described, right? He's called the chief prince, first of all, what's the title that's normally given to angels. And then there's an interesting statement that God makes about Gog. And I'll say the Lord, so we don't get to confuse here. That the Lord makes about Gog.

He says in Ezekiel 3817, he says, are you the one who I have spoken of in old times by my servants, the prophets? And then the Septuagint, he actually says, it's definitive. He says, you are the one I've spoken of in old times by my servants the prophets. So what are he saying? He's saying that Gog is, whoever he is, he's been mentioned in multiple Old Testament books. Well, the problem there is that the name Gog only time we see in the Old Testament. Right. So how could that be? So who's he talking about? And

this is why I think it's going back to the fact that it's the spirit in dwelling him. Because the Assyrian is mentioned in many different prophetic books. And so I think that he's talking about the spirit that's operating him because it's this recurring spirit. And so again, we see also that God addresses him directly. So he's speaking directly to him, like like we see with the Assyrian, with Satan, Isaiah 14, God's speaking directly to God. So he's reserving this one-on-one conversation for him.

And again, he tells him, how is he going to bring him onto the battlefield to fight against Israel because that's, of course, God's main agenda is to attack Israel. So against the same mission over and over again, he says, I'm going to put hooks in your jaws and drag you onto the battlefield to defeat you. Do you feel like there's some character traits that you're saying, like, cross the board between all these guys that, like, stand out? The defiance of God, trying and somehow to subdue or destroy Israel, either bring them under subjection in slavery, bring them under subjection in worship, or just destroy Israel. and desecration of the temple.

That's a consistent theme with all of these. They're trying to defy God's covenant, defy the temple, defy his people. Which feels like a spiritual purpose in their destruction. It's not just, you know, to just live however they want or dominate. It's, it seems like a spiritual offensive towards, towards God. 100%. And you think about it again, it's always tied back to prophecy, right?

God rests his whole. reputation on prophecy that he's telling us everything from the beginning. So Satan wants God's plan to fail. And so we were speaking earlier about the legal aspects of this. What's happening in heaven and Satan's trying to prove God's work and fail. Well, we know with the prophecy of Messiah, it happened. The Messiah was born. His human lineage in DNA was protected and preserved. So what's left now? Well, Jesus said very clearly, after he was rejected, corporately nationally by Israel, he said, I will not return until you say, blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.

So Jesus is banking his second coming to earth on Israel acknowledging him as Messiah. Corporately as a nation, they have to acknowledge him. So what is Satan trying to do? If I can destroy Israel or get them to worship someone else, I prevent that from being fulfilled. And I think that's what they're doing. That's so this is what now, that's the part of the whole agenda is trying to stop that prophecy from being fulfilled. And of course, the ultimate fulfillment of that is going to be the Antichrist is going to try and win them all over. And do you think these guys know that they're doing this or they're just sort of like taken over by the spirit and they're kind of acting out of their ignorance?

But they're obviously they're men. They want power. They're corrupted power. But there's this other agenda or like pawns in a game being used. I think it's a combination. I think that one, they have the, they have this desire for. power too they're all opening themselves up to the worship of the false gods and the occult which then allows the spirit to take over and start working them so i think they kind of

operate together right so um so i think on some level they're aware of it but then i think also the spirit once they're possessed that they're kind of taken over in that regard is the syrian related at all to the prince of persia that we see in in daniel or are they going to be are you in your mind of the separate entities right because there's that really famous thing where michael's held up by 21 days by the Prince of Persia. I know we have this Game of Thrones Empire, right? Sure. And Satan's always operating therein, but it seems like there's other kings,

princes, chiefs that sort of take hold, right? Is there any relation there? Are you think those are different entities? Yeah, I think they're different. I mean, I think absolutely Prince of Persia is a fallen angel. No question about it. And he's one of the assigned. Of course, this is the Deuteronomy 32 division of the nations.

You know, and so the fallen angels are taking all the 70 nations and God's going to build his own nation through Abraham. And so that's who they, I think he's just one of the principalities assigned to that nation. Whereas I think Apollyon or the Assyrian, I think he's again, I think Genesis, I think Ezekal ties him to the days of Noah. Yeah. So he was taken down to the abyss, which we see clearly said in Ezekiel 31. And then he's, but he's, you know, by God's own methods, he's allowed him to come out.

Yeah. And take on this role as a suppressor of Israel at these intervals. Why do you think there's so much time between this, like 90 something, A.D. to whenever, as opposed to really kind of being like at a 500, 900, 250 year clip before that. Oh, yeah, because of us. We're the gap and all this, right? the church age. Yeah.

The church age. And so I think, again, I think that when you look at the God, when you look at Ezekiel 38 and Ezekiel 39, it was, you know, the Gog, Megag war. I put war in quotes because I think it's actually more than one conflict. I think it's two conflicts. I think that it's actually describing them in reverse.

That chapter 38, when it says, Gog and Magog, this army will attack a place of unwalled villages that is at peace, that's at safety. That is not Israel today. Israel is highly defended, right? They have iron dome. They have walls everywhere. So I think that's referring to the millennial Gog-Megov war.

That's at the end of the millennium where you've seen Revelation 20. But I think Revelation 30, Ezekiel 39, is talking about the first Gogh megagad-Gar war, which kicks off, I believe, the Great Tribulation. So I think all this happens that at the time of the rapture, I believe you're going to have the first attack on Israel by this God-Meggat coalition and they're going to be conquered. And that's going to begin the turning of Israel back to worshiping the Lord and acknowledging Jesus as Messiah. And if you look at the Eccal 39, God says, from this day on, right, you will no longer pollute my name. You will no longer serve the idols. So there's something happening in that battle. So I think that's the interval of the 2,000 years is because we're here.

And then once we go, it all starts again. What about some of these, like, tyrannical rulers we have between them? I can think about like Hitler as like an Antichrist prototype or someone like Stalin. You have these just horrible. I think Hitler is the closest. I mean, he just impidimizes everything that we're talking about. Obviously, you know, murdering, you know, the nation of Israel. literally through genocide, complete occult leadership.

You know, they were obviously seeking. He was searching for the altar of Zeus, right? He was searching for the sort of long dineists, all these, all the relics, all the ancient relics and artifacts to collect occult power. So, yeah, so he to me epitomizes exactly that. And I think it's fair to say that he was very likely possessed. Honorable mention list, right? Yeah.

He's the first alternate. There's probably a few that can go on there. Yeah. He might get on the team. Somebody gets sick. It's just not bad enough. It's a high bar. So what are we looking for when it comes to this seventh king that's not yet to come?

I know the revelation's cryptic, right? It feels like a riddle. But we do get some information about him. And you've talked about how this war will happen and he will. But is this the hybrid son of Satan? Is this going to be the sort of embodiment of him as we know that his son is then killed? Right? You have this whole, is this going to be the dude finally?

You know, it's interesting you say that because that's a very common, back when people were obviously in common in the 19th century sense that they felt Gog that his death after he died he would come back and then he's the eighth again so that's that's a that's a common I've read that in many sources that that's exactly how they thought the sequence was and so I think it could be that or it could just be he dies and then the next person who comes on the scene because his his once we're into this great tribulation we're at the rise of the now we're at the start of the career of the antichrist so it happens very quickly this time right exactly very yeah so now we're talking about you know, three and a half years to the Antichrist, the full blown in the temple, declaring himself.

So his rise has to be happening already. Yeah. Before he gets to that ultimate position of power ruling the entire world. So what do we do with the image of the beast? Image of the beast. I think the groundwork is really being laid right now. So the image of the beast, of course, is, again, the false prophet's going to tell the world to create this image. but the thing about it is that it's told it's given life.

It becomes alive. So I see the image of the beast as the ultimate fulfillment of AI. It's artificial, but it has consciousness. And it's crazy that just today, Elon Musk did an interview talking about consciousness and AI and how once we can merge with it through brain implants, he literally said, we'll have God-like powers and we'll do Jesus-level activities. And so, yeah, he just said that today. So you can easily find on social media.

But that's the idea, right? So it's really the culmination of artificial intelligence. And the thing about it is that not only is it going to have technology, right? And we talk about the alien research, all this type of genetics, you're saying how the fallen angels are studying. They're trying to learn something. And I think that's true, right? They're not omniscient.

So the devil needs technology. The Antichrist needs technology. They're not all-knowing. They're not all-powerful. So even the image itself, I think it has to be set up because the Antichrist has to run a world government. So he's fighting wars. He's leading movements. And so he has to have this image set up to receive his worship every day.

But the thing about it that's even to me, even more shocking is that the image knows who is worshiping it and who is not and puts them to death. And so how can that be? So I think that has to be that clearly those who are taking them, Mark who are choosing to worship the Antichrist, I believe they're going to be tapped into some type of neural network. How else could it actually know globally who's giving worship and who isn't? We have Babel then, too, if this whole neural thing works and you've got AI in your brain, and you can speak any language to anybody at any time and understand any language.

It is a, it is the promise of the garden, right? That's exactly it. If you eat of this, you take this, you can be like the gods or be like, God. You know, you have these abilities and... And there's a new, one of the newest technologies, brain interface technologies is, it's called the BISC, it's B-I-S-C, it's the brain interface silicon, something like it. But it's a thin, it's like a very thin wafer-like ship that they put under your skull. They said it rests on your brain like tissue. And then the way, whoever, you know, the person who has it, they put a transmitter.

by your ear and you can wirelessly communicate to computers with its AI, with the AI software that they created. With your thoughts? With your thoughts, wirelessly. So the idea of communicating, right? So you can communicate. So think about how that could work. If it's a two-way communication, right?

You can also plant thoughts in someone's mind. And this exists now. So, I'm going to be pretty disappointed when I think about tacos and bourbon and cigar. All they're like, this guy. I still can't remember your password. I thought it was two-way. Tell me my password. It's in there somewhere.

I remember some names every once in a while. Not doing it, though, just for the record. Yeah. I'll say dumb. It's three millimeters long. It's super, super tiny and has 65,000 electrodes on it. So it is a super powerful chip that is extremely small. They can just go right into.

your brain. And so again, this is where it's all leading. Like Zuckerberg said, he's actually to your point. He said, one day, I believe we'll be able to send full, rich thoughts to each other directly using this technology. You'll be able to just think of something and your friends will immediately be able to experience it too. So it's all, you know, coming to fruition. And then someone who I've followed for a while kind of track what he's been saying is Ray Kurzweil, who, you know, even back in 2010, 2010, 2012, you know, he's a futurist, works for Google, was saying that You know, by 2045, we'll have the singularity, will be merged with machines. He was saying this from a long, long time ago.

And now he's moved up his prediction to 2030. Wow. What does worship in your mind going to look like when you say you worship the image of the beast? Is that, how does that look like? If we're talking about technology here, I mean, it seems a little bit like antithetical to worship technology. I guess like in metaphorical. but how do you think this this looks or i think it's going to be you know kind of like that old-time religion like you know you're going to get your little buzz at eight a m in the morning i have to

get up and recite some type of prayer to the antichrist because the thing about it too in revelation 13 it says that they that the people take the mark they worship the beast and the dragon so you're so people are directly worshiping satan and so i think it's going to be actual prayer on their knees bowing down to this image. And maybe it can, I don't know if they project them an image on your screen, on your tablet, so you can actually look at it

because not everyone's obviously going to be in Jerusalem or they just project it into your mind, but I think it's actually going to be that type of real worship. Like just like we saw. Like called a prayer for Islam, right? You just sort of like have this. Exactly.

Yeah. Exactly. So I was thinking, or like Nebuchadnezzar. The music plays. Yeah. Everyone has to stop what they're doing. And bowed out. It's like musical chairs.

You better find a spot. Do we're going to go to the Eighth King? I know I might have skipped ahead of the Beast or did we get there. Speaking of the brain's not working. Yeah, we skip one. So the eighth, of course, and again, it says the eighth is of the seven. And that is the actual beast, the Antichrist. And so the interesting thing about the Antichrist here is because people say, well, what's going on?

How is he? What is he? You know, a lot of people say he's just a regular person. I don't think he is at all. I think he's actually, you go back to Genesis 315, and God gives the prophecy of the Messiah, the seed of the woman. He tells Satan, I'm going to put war between your seed and her seed. So we always just focus on Jesus as we should, but there are two seeds mentioned. So I think he's telling Satan, he's going to have a literal offspring.

And so I think that, so one, he's going to be a hybrid. And then still, how does that work where it says that the beast comes from the pit? And I think this is why this is the confirmation that something's going to happen. That's again, like Nimrod's going to change him. I think it's that when he gets indwelling by the spirit of Apollion. And I think it's going to happen at his death. And when he actually suffers that mortal wound and comes back, I think that's when the Apollion spirit enters him. And that's in the world says, who's like him?

Who can make war with him? No one's like him. He must be God. Right? That's when the world is won over by him. And what we see, it says that he's going to have, you know, he performs. miracles. He's going to have supernatural powers. He's going to actually, you know, this is the false prophet will call fire down from heaven. You know, that's the sign. That's a sign of Yahweh's approval,

right? At the dedication of the temple of Solomon sent fire down from heaven. Yeah. So, so it's going to deceive people to think that these are godly, godlike beings. The final one. The final one. Yeah. The final Nephloom. Exactly. Exactly. You said earlier when you were talking about Pharaoh that it was the plagues were related to the tribulation. And you think that's a story that's going to play out with him raining during that time? Oh, 100% right? Because now he gets into power and he declares himself God. And what happens?

God starts pouring out judgment after judgment. Those who take the mark, right? They get burned by the sun. They have all sorts. They can't drink the water anymore. It gets poisoned. They become gingers. Yeah.

We're ready. You get burned by the sun very easily. Yeah, so we know what to do. This is a straight line. That's an easy one. We're going to be underground and caves. That's right. Everyone else is going to be like, those ginger's new.

I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. It's in trouble. Yeah. I'll be nice and chocolate. Yes. So, but yeah, so, yeah, it's a total repeat, right?

It's, in fact, I call the Great Tribulation of the Second Exodus, because now it's, it's just a complete repeat. even down to the fact if you think about it when Jesus actually comes to Jerusalem, it says he sets his feet on the Mount of Olives. And what happens? It's split in half. It opens up and the remaining Israelites in Jerusalem flee through the path that Jesus creates when he separates the Mount of Olives. Right Sea.

So exactly. It's like the parting of the Red Sea. So this is, again, this is God's language. He's repeating this event over and over again. So yes, I think it's an absolute repeat down to again to the Antichrist. death, that when he's killed, that is the punishment of the execution of the firstborn. And if you want even more confirmation of the Antichrist being the offspring, the true seat of the serpent, think about what happens right afterwards, right after Armageddon.

He says that the Antichrist and the false prophet go into the lake of fire. They're cast into the lake of fire. They are dead. But Satan isn't. What happens? says an angel comes with a chain, chains him, and puts him in the abyss. Exactly what happened to the watcher angels in Genesis 6. They were chained and put in the abyss after they created hybrid offspring.

And so now Satan has waited all this time for his prophesied seed. To make his point. And he has to suffer the exact same punishment and get in these put there for a thousand years. Wow. During the millennium, of course. How, uh, date setting is so dumb. I mean, how close do you think we are? I love this question because to me it's really silly in some ways because we all live through 99 reasons.

Jesus come back in 99 or 88 reasons in 88, you know, and everybody likes a date set. But it seems like we are very close, at least like with the technological abilities that exist. You know, like we were like kids in the 80s. There was not really a way for everyone in the world to see something at the same time, you know, pre-internet. Exactly. Maybe on CBS news, you could try to figure that. But everybody's watching, right? Or whatever.

Dan, yeah. Old Dan's not broadcasting from, but we're there. Like, it seems, or very close, it seems to these abilities, the ability to communicate to the Babble 2.0. And is the mark, you know, AI or is it AI, you know, adjacent technology and how does that all? I mean, it seems like there were sort of on the precipice, but. You never know. I don't know. I always think like a wonder. You know, things seem to continue on. It's 2050. That's the year.

That's the year. Done. No, no, I'm joking. But that's Isaac Newton's number. This is right. That was Isaac. Without going over. Yeah, exactly. 2050 and 365 days. Yeah.

No. One dollar. But no, I did that. I was just trolling my daughter because she's very scared. Because, you know, that was Isaac Newton's prediction of, was 2050, I believe. Really? And so she's very scared of that, uh, that, uh, that, I don't know. But no, but I think the real, how do we know, though, we're close? How can I say, I think you actually hit the nail on the head, right? It's that when you look at what is being

prophesied in Revelation that cannot be achieved today. Easy example, like you said, TV. Right. Dan Rather, the two witnesses, Revelation 11, right, says they were killed and their bodies in the street for three and a half days and the entire world can see them, right? That is very easy now for that to happen. Yeah. So 10 years ago, even, that was not possible for the entire world to be able to have the capability. Now it is. So I think when you look at technology, all these things are achievable. Certainly having a mark you can buy and sell what, they're already doing that.

In Sweden, in other countries, that's already happening. So they're really, I can't even think of anything at this point except for what we see with the image of the beast. That's the last, to me, the last thing left that Satan needs. to actually launch this is one, a super form of artificial intelligence of AI that can monitor the entire world and not only that and then also tap into the thoughts of the world. So you give immortality? Definitely. Because it's what they beg for death and it won't.

Yeah, definitely. And so again, this is, I think a big part of the Antichrist deception is that he's going to offer eternal life, right? He gets killed at the midpoint. And he comes back and the world is stunned and amazed. And I think what he's going to do is all for that and say, I overcame death. Now you can too. How?

Take my mark. Take the mark. I think just again, he's mimicking Jesus that we are saved by the blood of Jesus. It's what saves us. So he's going to say, take my blood, take on my genetics, and you'll be able to overcome death as well. And it's going to work for a time. Where do we see it, right? It's, man, Revelation 9, said that for five months.

It says men will look to die. They'll seek death and death will flee from them. People will not be able to die for five months. And it's going to be the worst time on Earth because that's the same time, of course, the abyss is opened. And you have the disfigured watchers who are now these locust hybrid beings were coming out and just tormenting everybody who has the mark. And so people are going to want to die after they receive the Antichrist immortality, his false promise. Less pure bloods will be, it'll be like waterworld. We'll just be cruising around.

What do you? On 90s jesse skis. That's right. What do you like, I'm sure you get in debates all the time for like the skeptics and time skeptics. I mean, you have this theme that keeps repeating. Yes. It just seems like the skeptical people kind of keep coming back about they just want that. They don't want it to end.

You know, they want it to have a good ending in this movie. And I get it because we all want the good ending in the movie. But it seems like there's hope even in. the story. Yep, even. Absolutely. There's, there's always a hope amongst the, they're turned your mic off.

There's always hope. Yeah, no, definitely. And think about it. In every, in every account we just discussed, Nimrod, Pharaoh, right, God wins in all of these. So God is showing us again. And this is, you know, again,

it comes back to how we, understand the Bible. And then, you can throw up that repetition slide if you want to, if you have it there. Right. God says again, this is God's principle. He says, I declared the end from the beginning. There's nothing known to the sun. Similar to these are all repetitions. When John the Baptist sees Jesus and says, behold, the Lamb of God, for us on this side of the cross, it's like, oh, yeah, of course, Jesus is the Lamb. At that time, that was a radical statement. He's saying all the Passover lambs for the past 1500 years from the original with Moses, they were all pointing to him. This is the true lamb. So that was a powerful statement. So

that's the repetition I call this here. This is my little physics slide for everybody. So this is a concept I talk about called quantum repetition because again, the quantum physics world, I believe when they talk about things like superposition that a particle can exist in two states at once, spinning up, spinning down, that that's the scientific expression of what God is sharing in the Bible. That God, of course, how does he exist? He's father, son, and Holy Spirit at the same time. Jesus was on earth in the temple and said, I am my father are one when the father is in heaven. They're separate, the ones on earth, ones in heaven, but they're one.

There are two states at the same time. And so it's the same thing with how God expresses prophecy through time. So he's using these events, just like he used the lambs every year, Passover to keep pointing, keep foreshadowing the ultimate redemption through the blood of Jesus, it's the same thing. You can see this with Samson, right? How does he defeat the Philistines? He puts his arms all like this and all of a sudden the enemies of God die, right? He's foreshadding the cross, right? So he collected a lot of forskins. He was a big, big circumcision guy. We bring a full circle. He was. He had to bring back. He had bags. There's the cycle, right?

Reparition. He was collector. Prophecy of Christ. It's a circumcision. It's all good. That's a prophecy there. Yeah. No, it's true. I mean, I thought that was pretty incredible.

And Samson was kind of a hybrid, too. Supernatural powers. He was a Nazarite, right? He took a Nazarite vow. Again, foreshadowing the Nazarite Jesus Christ of Nazareth. So, yeah, so lots of supernatural birth, supernatural conditions, you know. So, yeah. So all these, of course, keep foreshadowed.

And then also like David and Goliath. to me again, we want good news. You have a foreshadow ancestor of the Messiah. Jesus is the son of David fighting a Nephlam hybrid for the fate of Israel, right? Eliath said, if I win, you're all my slaves. I own you, right? It's exactly what the end of Christ is doing. And look how fast was over.

One stone, he's gone. Yeah. Just that quick. So, I mean, Ryan, so, you know, Christians have thought about eschatology since the beginning, right? how this is all going to play out. It hasn't played out yet. We know we know that, right? Right.

Unless you're a preterist. But what do we do? How do we avoid the great deception? I guess a lot of what we're talking about here is understanding the patterns and understanding the playbook. Yeah. As Christians, if we're going to, how do we resist falling into that great deception at the end? Because we don't know exactly what it's going to look like.

It's just called a great deception. People want to use that and throw that around about all kinds of crazy stuff. But I don't think it's here yet. I don't think we have that great one. No, it's the seeds, right? It's the same, it's the weeds and the tears, right? God said he's going to, you know, the enemy's planting his seeds. And God said, let them grow until the time of judgment.

So that's, that's where we are right now, where everything is the seeds for the antichrist are being planted. Right. You know, we just had disclosure day, you know. Right. come out a movie where, you know, the aliens are replacing Christianity. They didn't even mention either religion in that movie. It was just Christianity. And, of course, the aliens, how do they present themselves as friendly animals?

They're shapeshifters and they appear as animals, just like even the garden. You know, so we see lots of this. So it's so, but, but again, when we're willing to understand everything that God is telling us, like this is the importance of prophecy, that gives us. the discernment. You know, when Jesus cried and wept over Jerusalem after rejecting him, he said, you did not know the time of your visitation. So what he was saying was, I gave you over 150 prophecies in the Old Testament that were all about me, where I was going to be born, where I'd grow up, all these different things about me, and you didn't know it. You didn't know

prophecy. And so we want to make sure we're not in that same situation. So I highly recommend you listen to the blurricks for each. Oh, well, hey. Read your Bible first. With Bible open. Yeah, with Bible open. Yes. So how do you think that, you know, this plays out with, like, we were talked about, you know, with disclosure, with UFOs, with the phenomena.

What do you think that? How does? And what's your opinion? Because obviously, no one knows, right? I think that it opens the door for, again, the, the, we know from revelations. Revelation 12. Again, it's going to be, when Jesus says the days of no, we see all these things come back. This is the attempt to bring back to Nephilim, to alter human genetics. But it's also the return of the fallen angels just visibly inhabiting the earth. And so we see that in Revelation 12. They're all going to be cast to earth with the devil.

And so my position is that they don't come as invaders or conquerors. I believe they're going to come as benevolent, beautiful beings of light that they're going to say, we want to. to help you. We want to help you evolve. We have the, we have the answers to your diseases. We have the answer to world peace, which is something they were definitely saying in Disclosure Day, by the way. And so, again, why not just say that we created you? We're from another planet. We created you. We seated the planet with you. And so. Well, I see that as probably a possibility, too, because it seems as if they are creating, if the stories are true, they're taking people, they're modifying, and if there's other kind of plants in with humans are like, oh, yeah, the look human, talk human. It's easy to persuade a

crowd when you have half the team is on your side undercover, right? Exactly. And I wonder if that's what that is. It's like, let's put as many fake humans out there as possible. So then there's this massive peace movement. Yeah, but automatic movement. It's like a bunch of goats in with the sheep, you know. Yeah. Definitely. You see this too, you know, not even just Disclosure Day. There was another movie years ago, 2012, Ridley Scott's film, Prometheus. Yeah. I mean, that was the entire plot of the film. And it starts off with, you know, a woman who's an architect who they find these cave drawings,

these ancient cave drawings of humans bowing to giants and the giants are pointing to stars. And it's a star map that leads to this planet. And they find out what? That the aliens there, the engineers created humanity millions of years ago, put DNA in the water. And that's how the human race was created. So it all, you know, it's an easy way to, again, win over the world. And if you combine, think about the fact, again, if you have literal miracles being performed, is it going to be a lot for people that this is why it says that even, you know, if it were possible,

the elect could be deceived by this. It's going to be really overpowering. It's always a counterfeit of the gospel, right? 100%. It's just like the magicians in Egypt. We go out to the Exodus that could do some, you know, they'll be a better. A better one of those. Exactly.

This is fun. This is really good. Yeah. We want to, definitely want to open it up for some questions here. Yeah. Sure. So this is a cool part.

Obviously, we've got a crowd here. And we got a mic. Can they also bring in my smart water? It's in the office. No. We got dumb waters. Like a Gatorade from 1980?

Oh, man. It takes me back to my days on the Kings Park Falcons right there. That's good. Big Knicks game at Kings Park. But yeah, I mean, we appreciate you guys coming in the studio and hanging out with us. Thank you, sir. Let's give it up for Ryan real quick. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. It's not a fun topic to cover. You get a lot of haymail, you know, as we were saying. But it's important because, I think we see themes and we don't necessarily know time, so we know themes. And we see repetitive stories. So if you have any questions, we'll get a mic to you. and no promises on a good answer.

We're going to try. Especially if you ask one of us. He asked him. He's got the smart water, so he's good. That's right. I refueled my brain. Yeah. Anyone.

If not, we'll... Here we go. The question. Front row. Hey, I thought you were going to go Nero on King number six, to be honest. And I was wondering, do you think there's anything to... like in Hebrew numerology, like you can kind of spell Nero, Caesar, and it's 666. And then when they converted it to the Latin Vulgate, it's 616 in Latin.

And that spells the Latin spelling of Nero Caesar. So I don't know if you thought there was to that. I think that there's, again, like a lot of ancient sources that point to Nero. In fact, people literally thought he was the Antichrist at that time in the church. So I think there's a lot of evidence. Obviously, he blamed the destruction of Rome on the Christians. He persecuted them, was burning them alive. So, yeah, I think he's a very good candidate.

My only issue with him was the timing is that he was in power decades before John was writing Revelation. So that's the thing that didn't line up for me when I was researching this. So that's the only reason why I have to, I'm just going to go with what the text says first. The Bible says he is means he's got to be alive at that time. So that's why. But yeah, but there are definitely lots of scholars

who agree, we'd say Nero was number six. Second alternate. Yeah. Still behind. He's still behind. He's real bad.

Yeah. He's a baddie. You probably don't have the answer, but I'd like to hear your opinion on it because I don't think we know because scripture doesn't really tell us, but they also, after that in Genesis 6,

with the Giants, how did they was it a second incursion or how do you think that that happened well they survived you're an iPhone guy do they survive? Yeah sure I have some thoughts on that

so so two things so after that so I have a very unique position on the after that so grammatically when you read in the earth and after that in those days and after that

the flood has actually not been mentioned yet so again we're reading on the other side. So we kind of put, mentally put the flood in there, it must be after the flood, before the flood and after the flood. The flood has not been mentioned at all. So from a grammatical standpoint, I don't think you could be talking about the flood. So I actually think it's just talking about the days when the angels came. When the sons of God started started these marriages,

there were giants in the beginning, which I believe were in the time of Jared and Enoch. And then after that, meaning the time leading up to Noah and the flood. So that's my first thing on that, on what, on what after that is referring to. And then with respect to how did the giants return, how did the Nephlem return after the flood? I don't believe there was a second incursion. I don't believe that the angels fornicated again. I believe that the DNA of the Nephilim passed through on the arc through the wives of Noah's sons,

particularly the wife of Ham. And there are a couple of facts from scripture that I think, that one is when you look at the genealogy of the patriarchs leading up to the flood you know obviously there were longer lifespans the thusel lived almost a thousand years most men were having their first child at 60 to 70 years old and so and i think that's because because of the atmospheric conditions in the pre-flood world you went through puberty much later in life you could have child during years or later so fine that's pretty consistent until you get to noah when you get to Noah, he does not have Shemham and Japheth until he's 500 years old. So why does that matter?

Because where he boards the arc, the arc takes off at, when he's 600. So we're well into the 120 year probation, God said, yet 120 years. So he's well into the judgment probation time before God was going to bring the flood. And then he decides to have kids. The problem at that time is God has said three times, all flesh has corrupted itself. Three times he's not. 60 says that at the time he tells Noah, go build the ark. So the odds of finding three women of marrying age who had pure blood human, I think was slim to none. And so I think that's so then on top of it, and this is I get to in detail in judgment of Nephilim, when you look at the post-flood Nephilim, they can all be traced back to Canaan.

right canaan who of course is the son of ham and in fact i think what satan was doing was taking canaan's offspring and putting them in israel intentionally you know it was like l a morzutze the cosmic chess match that he's saying okay god's rebooting the human race they're now he's bringing his people back out after the flood i'm going to put all my giants where are they in the promised land which is called the land of canaan and we think of the land of canaan it's like that's a good thing but it's really not that's the that was the those those are the descendants that God specifically targeted for extermination, for the Harem, for the ban. It's Canaan's descendants. And so, and I think that's also why Canaan was cursed.

You know, after Ham commits the sin in the tent with Noah. I think, you know, Noah doesn't curse him. He curses Canaan. I think Canaan was the one showing the Nephlin signs in his actual appearance after the flood. So they were showing up with like, his sons were showing up with like WMBA players? And they're like, there's some big ladies you're bringing aboard here. That's right. There's something going on here. That's right. Six fingers, six toes.

Yeah, you're like, this is low. So we got a team here. Anybody else? Thanks. Yeah, I had a question. I've never heard, or I guess I would say I've always heard Nebuchadnezzar's seven years presented as mental illness. Sure.

And even his long hair as being that either he had just let it go or, you know, different things like that. And so I've never heard what you've presented before. How would you answer somebody that's saying, saying, well, it's poetic license or, you know, it's just illness that they didn't understand. Well, remember that he, this again, this was not a normal, even in the Exodus, it's Moses who's, you know, warning Pharaoh. This is from the watchers. He got an angelic announcement that this punishment was happening. So right from the start, this is all we're operating in the supernatural realm.

So I think that's the first piece of evidence. And the second is, even if, he grew his hair along because he was just letting himself go or he's in his rocker phase. He wouldn't explain him growing claws. It wouldn't explain him having feathers and, of course, eating grass like an oxen. So, you know, I think scripture is really driving home that he was transformed, you know. So that's, I think the details of scripture support that much more than him just being crazy. And trust me, and I've seen that before, even in like Christian cartoons, he's just kind of like a madman. But I don't think it's the case.

I think he was really became a hybrid. What was your long hair phase, Ryan? My long hair phase? Oh, man, I had the high top fade going. You couldn't tell me that. I had that thing. Perfect right angle right here. Are the kid in play?

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We got to get some photos for that. Once upon a time. Once upon time. In fact, my kids, my grandma, my grandma, I call her grandma all the time. My mother has a high school picture of me. And I remember the first time my kids were old enough and saw it.

And they were like, that's you? They were like, they couldn't believe because I had my flight time going. This is how I met your mother. She couldn't resist. She couldn't resist. And you're here. Thank you. I got one in the back here.

Great event tonight. Thank you, Ryan, and the whole Larry team. Thank you for coming. Two quick questions. You might want to take a sip of the smart water. Uh-oh. How do you reconcile Nebuch Kegner seemingly returning to God and giving praise to Yahweh when it was all done. Most of the early church fathers record him as, you know,

after everything was said and done, he was a Christian. Second question, you were harder on AI than I anticipated. What are your thoughts on AI? Should we not use it? Like most of your images were AI or most of the images were AI. So should we not use it? Should we avoid it? Like, where do you land on that? Great question. So the first question, I think you already hit the nail on the head. So I think that what we see with Nebuchadnezzar is that he repents, right? He is the author of Daniel chapter four. And he makes a strong statement that God, Yahweh is the true God. He is the king. He raises people up. He humbles. He can humble anyone. He can raise up whoever he wants. He's God. And so it's like, well, wait, wait a second. He was possessed. He went through all this stuff.

He's an interchrist foreshadow. But yet he's saved. Yes, he can be. Right. When we see this. right in other in other areas right look at king solomon king solomon is a foreshadow of jesus and the antichrist right he set up an idol in the temple and so he was not the you know he was very idolatrous you know to a massive degree right so he so i think again but of course do i think solomon was saved absolutely right so um so i think that happened to nebuchadnezzar as well which is why he was allowed to be a biblical author and then with respect to a i i see a i i see a i I just, it's exactly how we approach the internet when the internet was really becoming popular, right? What do we do with this? Do we use it? Do we avoid it? I think we use it. It's like, you know,

in the world, but not of the world. I think that we are in such an amazing error right now as Christians where we can literally sit here and there are people right now in Indonesia, in Australia, in Zimbabwe, who can tune in and hear all of this. So this is so powerful to use. So I think we have to use these tools in a godly way. And so I think that's the, so I see it is no different. I think we should absolutely use AI. I think we should absolutely use the internet 100% and, um, but use it to honor God and get his word out. I think the AI you're really referring to is when it gets starts crawling around and walking and yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Exactly. And I'll give me another example too. Another recent example. So, um, in two different countries. I think it was in,

Germany. I can't remember the other place, right, where they were using, they actually did a full-on AI church service, where it was a projector image of an AI avatar who wrote the sermon and delivered it. And the line was, you know, out the door to get in. So, right? So obviously now we've obviously crossed the line when it's not even a human being who does not have the Holy Spirit delivering a message, right? So we have to, once we're in that realm or we're putting AI into our mind or a chip or something like, That's when obviously, you know, we have to pump the brakes. And we're at the point right now, I think I saw today that the U.S. government's shutting down some of the top, top level AI operations. I mean, right, Gregory?

We were talking, yeah, like Fable. I know that they're pulling these off because they're so powerful. They become, quote, a national security threat or liability, which is, we are there. That's crazy town because the U.S. government was using AI for warfare, which became a big story. Which is a big, yeah. So, I mean, and look at you look at what that happened too with, with mythos, you know, a couple of months ago when Anthropic was going to, it was testing mythos. They said that it not only could it, you know, break into pretty much every single bank banking institution in America. It was also, you know, they gave it that test where they kind of put it in like a cold computer that's not even connected to the internet and it figured out how to get out of it, turn the web on and start.

And then, and then not only that it posted everything it did, a knowledge. anonymously on the internet. And when they went back and questioned it afterwards, it lied. And said, it never left. It never did anything. So, yeah. This Terminator, bro. Exactly.

Yeah. Yeah. So that's, again, when you talk about how close are we, right? We have AI that's already, you know, lying. So sonnet's okay. Yeah. Yeah. Low sonnet.

Yeah. That's wild. Anyone else? Atari. Atari. Yeah, you guys were worried about you with a tar. You grew your hair out. I was wondering if you were turned into a hybrid.

I was. It's getting there. Yeah. Hi. This is for Ryan. What do you think of the idea that the sons of Noah may have been triplets? And if they were, would that have a spiritual significance, like reflecting the angelic wars where two thirds of the angels remain divine, one third was fallen? Oh, that's really interesting.

So I've never even thought about that than being triplets. I mean, I get what you're saying because it just says he was 500 when he had, he just lists, it just lists all three of them at the same time. So I don't know if they're triplets. I haven't thought. I have to think about that and maybe look into it. But I do think there's a lot of significance to the fact that it was one son who ultimately led to the Nephlin after the flood. Right. And why? Because it's three sons and one has the family carrying the fallen angelic lineage, which I think, again, is the number of the angelic rebellion. And we see that replicated frequently in scripture, this idea of 33 or one third as a number of the fallen age. You even look on the cross, right? There are three crosses, two thirds. We're saved. One. wasn't, right? So, you know, we see this, this happens frequently. And even in the judgments

of Revelation, you know, we're talking about Exodus and how God's, I'm going to punish the gods of Egypt. Right. I think we're going to see the same thing in the Great Tribulation where God is judging angels, the fallen angels, and obviously the humans who are worshiping Antichrist. At the trumpet judgment, it's a third of the seas turn to blood. A third of the rivers. It's one third, one third, one third of the sun is struck. So we're seeing that replicated over and over again. And even with the wars in Canaan, right, all the wars that were the offensive wars that were against the Nephilim nations done by Moses and Joshua, when you get to the end of the book of Joshua, they list all the kings that he fought. He defeated 31 kings.

Well, those weren't all because Moses fought King Og and King Sihon. So all together, they fought 33 different. Nephlin kings to take over the promised land. One of the occult loves that number. Exactly. It's weird. That's why exactly. Not weird. Right. That's why I think it holds such a special place in the occult and freemasonry, right? The 33rd degree. It's because it's all, again, going back to this idea of the original rebellion of the third of the angels. One more? You mentioned that your daughter with the year 2050. Yes. You know that she's scared. How would you encourage us or what, what do you say to your daughter?

or how would you encourage people to not be fearful when it comes to end times prophecy? I go to Revelation 19, 20, and 21, right? That there's no more tears, no more pain, no more hurt, right? When people ask me, hey, explain the Bible, that's where I start. I always, you know, be me, you know, how I get down. The end is the beginning, the beginning is the end. I start in Revelation and say, this is what God has planned for you.

this is what he actually was intending on earth to have no pain to have no strife to have no hatred no war and so it's just reminding that the victory that ultimately doesn't matter like you know the yes these things are going to happen but jesus wins in the end and god again is showing it's time haven't i showed you don't you remember nade don't you remember david and gileve why are you worry why are you tripping right but that's what he's saying is that i'm showing you time and time again, no matter how close we come to destruction, God's going to pull us back. God rescues us. God has a remnant. God is a people. And so that's the reminder that this has to end. Evil has to end. And so that's what God is promising us. And again, by my timing, I also tell her we'll be watching

all that. You won't be here for the locust in the five months of torment. You will be raptured. So you will not be witnessing that from on earth directly. So we will be up. enjoying it on the big screen, but we won't be experiencing it. So that's how I like to reassure. Thanks, Ryan. It's been awesome. We just, we got one more. No, you hit on something there. Okay. So you compared it to the Exodus. Yes. So we know that we have the three plagues that the children of Israel went through. Now you're talking about a rapture experience. Somewhere in that chronological stuff, we do see the beheadings of the Christians and under the altar and things like that.

So how do you, that sounds more somewhere in the middle here, something happens than more in the beginning when I was taken up in the spirit, which is chapter four. So can you just briefly? I know it's a long question. I have no problem. We're about to really open up indoors box. So we want to go rapture. I'm fine. You're talking my language.

So, yeah. So I will try to very briefly explain my rapture timing because it's kind of different. from the traditional. So God, we see in Revelation 4 and 5, but it says that God is sitting on the throne with the seven sealed scroll. It says, no one's worthy to open the scroll in earth, in heaven or under the earth.

Nobody, right? So something has not happened yet, right? And then John's about to weep and says, behold, the Lamb of God's prevailed. And obviously that Jesus appears in the throne. It says it appears as a lamb slain in the throne room and he's given the scroll. So obviously we can all agree that's Jesus.

It says he's the one who's worthy. I believe that took place in Acts chapter 1. 50 days after the resurrection, Jesus goes back to heaven. And I believe that's when he appears before John. Because John says, lo and behold, like out of nowhere. I believe that's when Jesus took the scroll and then he opened it at that time.

So I believe the first four seals of these horsemen, I believe these are spirits going into the world, bringing false religion, false Christianity, bringing war, bringing pestilence, bringing death. Then you get to the fifth seal, the martyrs under the altar, that is the only seal that is dictated by time. They say, God, how long until you avenge us?

When are you going to go in vengeance for our death? And we know these are Christians that they die for the testimony of Christ. God says a little while longer until the number of your brethren is complete. So to me, what God is saying is he has a number of martyrs. And when that number is reached, just like Salomon Gimori says, their sins reach to heaven. Or the Amalekites and says, four generations, I'm going to come back and get them, right?

Because their sin hasn't reached to the full. When that number is reached, that's when God now starts the events of the Great Tribulation. And I believe that all starts at the Six Seal. The Six Seals when everything happens. That's when you have the sun turning dark. The moon turns to blood. This is Joel 231. He says, that's when the day of the Lord starts.

That's the end times. And so I believe that's when we're raptured is at the sixth seal. And then you get to Revelation chapter. That's the end of chapter six, right? And also at that time, it says that the rich men, the powerful men, there's a great earthquake. And they're running in the caves. They're going to their luxury doomsday bunkers. Right?

And holes in the ground, right? So they go into the ground and they go into the caves and they say, hide us. And they say from him who sits on the throne and the lamb. because the day of his wrath that comes. So they know it's God, right? So this is, they know, this is God punishing the world. So I believe that's the start of everything. And that's when we go up.

And then what happens in the next chapter, they seal the 144,000 witnesses who are going to stay on earth during this time. And then again, lo and behold, there's all of a sudden there's a group of people. All different races, all different languages, all standing before the throne. And I believe that's us.

I believe that's the rapture church. that was my quickest explanation I've ever done you delivered bro that was awesome you did it well thank you give it up for Ryan Peterson everybody thank you thank you

yeah yeah Ryan's got books there too in the back you should have been able to show him but when I grab a book he's got him back there for sale too so

and another book on the way we talked about this on on the episodes yeah yeah yeah so I'm working on my my third book the earth before Adam which is going to go even farther into the past back to the original Rebellion of Lucifer, the ancient earth before humanity, gap theory,

all that good stuff. That's love it. Dinosaurs. Oh, man. Yeah, Leviathan. Let's do it. Yeah. Thanks, Ryan.

Thank you guys. Thanks for watching. Thank you. Thank you, fellas. Thank you for coming. Thank you so much. Yeah. Thank you.