Blurry Creatures - EP: 71 The American Werewolf with Dr. Judd Burton

Episode Date: November 29, 2021

Lewis and Clark traveled over four thousand miles documenting the vast unseen wilderness of the American frontier. Mysteriously, a full three years passed before their findings and documents were released to the public. What did they see? Was there a vast conspiracy and or foul play behind the timing of these events? Dr. Judd Burton joins us to unpack written accounts that seem to show evidence that Lewis and Clark had run-ins with blurry creatures--especially the Manitou, or the American Werewolf.  Support the show! www.blurrycreatures.com/members Guest: Dr. Judd Burton http://burtonbeyond.com contact: [e-mail] blurrycreatures.com Socials instagram.com/blurrycreatures facebook.com/blurrycreatures twitter.com/blurrycreatures Music Kyle Monroe: tinytaperoom.com Aaron Green: https://www.instagram.com/aaronkgreen/ Mastering: ironwingstudios.com Outro Song: TimeCop1983: timecop1983.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Dr. Judd, you've been on our show so many times and we love it. You always have something new to add to the show. How this one started was I was sitting there and you message me. He said, how would you like to do a show about Lewis and Clark Expedition? And some of the weirdness associated with that, I was intrigued. We started going back and forth a little bit and you said, The Manitoo, American Werewolf. And then you just left me hanging, Jed.

You may just have to bring you on to figure out what you were talking about. Well, I think maybe that was the week after that, I think I had a conference that I spoke at. I had a couple of projects, and Aaron Judkins and I filmed six episodes of French Pop 321 with Mike Kaiser. So that might have been what I was doing. It's a good tactic. You know, you just send out these messages to these podcasts like, hey, there was a werewolf that attacked, and then that's it. I don't personally know a lot about Lewis and Clark Expedition. I think that, like most kids in high school, I was distracted myself.

What about you, Luke? No, I mean, I know a fair bit, a fair bit about, you know, about Lewis and Clark, Sagiaiaia. But I'm ready for the weirdness, Judd. I can deliver. And our question, my question is, so in these explorations, are they coming across information they shouldn't know? I mean, the emails you sent me were kind of conspiratorial, like they found something. They discovered things. They knew information.

And, you know, we talk about obviously creatures all the time on our show, and it sounds like it's related. Something they came across, that they shouldn't have known? Is that kind of your theory? Not necessarily that they shouldn't have known. It's just that there are accounts in the records kept by not just Lewis and Clark, but more especially the other people that were on the expedition. Because you have to remember that it wasn't just Lewis and Clark. It was 31 man expedition.

So there were other, some of the military, some of them were of mixed, native and European blood, trappers, people that knew the land, the languages. There was a lot of people out there on this expedition, basically. Yeah, and the marvel of it all is that they only lost one person on the expedition, and that was to natural causes. that they think that his appendix burst. So they didn't run into yellow hair or any giants out there? Well, that's what I'm getting to. I mean, the expectations were high. Like I say, expedition was really in terms of the logistics of preparation and financing

and outfitting and execution was really the equivalent of going to the moon in its day, fraught with all the dangers of the same kind that you would expect on a venture like that. In order to understand some of the strangeness of the expedition itself, you have to understand some of the expectations that not just Jefferson had that were sort of popular in scientific circles in the day. For instance, it was believed that amongst other things that somewhere in the interior of the continent were remnant populations of, you know, megafauna. In particular, the woolly mammoth.

So, you know, this was not, like I say, this is not just something, you know, that you find in the popular folklore of the day, like the scientific circles, you know, no less groups than the American philosophical society, you know, believe that these animals still existed in the interior of the continent somewhere. I didn't know that Woley Mammoth was considered in that category. So they're writing down things that give you clues because, I mean, when you go back and reread history with a lot of this knowledge, that we've talked about on previous episodes. Are you picking up on stuff, Judd? Are you seeing things in the text and the accounts that the average history? Hey, welcome back to Blurie Creachers. This was a member's only episode, a little teaser we did.

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