Bob Does Sports Podcast - Beau Hossler Talks Meeting Tiger Woods and the Worst Part About Missing Cuts

Episode Date: November 2, 2022

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Ladies and gentlemen, we are back, another edition. Bob does sports podcast here. We appreciate the support. We are booming here, and we are joined here with a guy who, I honestly, ball, I'm not just saying this to pump your tires and meet that series. If you didn't have the whole PGA tour thing going on, if we were to have a fourth for the Bob does sports team, that would be our fourth. It's hilarious.

That would be our fourth. He's a hell of a golfer. You know, both are true. Yeah. And anybody who brings me. donuts before we play a round of golf. In my books, he's A-O-K. There's some guys that just get it, man.

He's got the sauce. He does have the sauce. Yeah, it showed up. We did the scramble against you, Bo. And then I was going to follow Big Wave Dave, your caddy now. He prior was with a guy named Sammy Ryder. We still love our guy, Sammy Ryder, but we were just going to follow Big Wave Dave's career

because he found us really early. He would always give us tickets. We got very blessed for Big Wave. to come on over to Team Hossler. Because I was a little worried when he left. I'm like, oh, shit, am I going to like the guy that he's going to be with? Not that you give a shit. But I think we got very blessed with the guy like Blow Hossler.

Yeah, it worked out. Bigwood is a legend. God, he's amazing. Sam Ryder. Another legend. Not a good guy. Also, shout out Team Dirty Mike, Sam Ryder as well. Oh, yeah.

He gets backroves from Dirty Mike, too. Does he really? That is the name of, would you consider Dirty Mike your masseuse, which is quite a name from Zuzio. Fizio. Yeah. Yeah. On the weeks that we get Arabian. Chef too?

You know what? He cooks it up. I mean, I can't say it. I love Dirty Mike. It's not restaurant quality gourmet, but it's more than adequate for you're staying at home. Like if you're with the boys and Dirty Mike's kicking it up, you're thrilled.

What's the best when Dirty Mike says he's cooking X tonight? What gets you the most excited? Yeah, I think. Great cute. He's Italian. His family's Italian is from New York. Okay. they're not messing around with like the meatballs and pasta sauce.

Like he's like he's he's making the meatballs. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. He's not going to buy milk and eggs and bread crumbs and all that. Yeah. He's buying the meat, the veal, the whatever is going in it, the bread crumbs, boom. It's a process. And so most of the time you knock out of the park, I probably, I mean, normally they're like a 9.8 out of 10.

Is that so? Dirty Mike, we will find you now. That is. I'm telling you that we're entirely talking pasta. We're pasta meatballs here. Okay. But it's out of the spaghetti? That's my specialty.

Yeah, he'll kind of go whatever pasta. We've been on like a little bit of like a chickpea pasta. Okay. He'll make the sauce. But it's like, you know, probably his grandma's recipe. Does it change like the night before as far as what you're eating? As if you guys have around the next day, if it's an early thing like those dirty mic? Yeah, you don't want to hit the pasta and meatballs like for a 7 a.m. two time when you might have.

That checks out. You know what I'm right? You know what I'm going to be an afternoon or practice around the next day. Well, both said that they had barbecue, and I thought he was talking about today. I'm like, you're not going to want to have barbecue while you're in the middle of a round or even prior to a round.

Yeah, I mean, we were out there walking, getting some video today at tournament took a little, like, you know, stopped to have, you know, we had a sandwich, you had a plate, you had pork nachos and dog, like, I did. Those are amazing. I mean, I could have sat there for 30 minutes.

I didn't, I didn't want to go anywhere. I was hurting, man. Yeah. When you see us out on the tournament, like, are you like, when you see us by, like, the ropes, you're like, oh, geez, here we go. Like, they're going to shoot the shit again?

Or is it kind of like, oh, here we go? No, I'm happy about it. I mean, you guys are good about knowing-ish the situation. Now, if I just made a triple in the hole before, probably not going to be thrilled to see Perez. Not so much shit at. Taking a video asking. Well, not today.

Perez given. Well, let's all about that, but we'll tell you what. You know, just to speak to, you know, the awareness of Big Wave Day. We're out there on, I think, you guys have been here since Tuesday or Monday. Yeah, Tuesday. So Tuesday, Thursday practice. round. We're walking off the range. I just got done with the grind sessions. I mean, it's a million degrees. Yeah. I'm just white. We're walking. I kind of got my head down. I'm just kind of tired.

Just taking a moment. Wave sees you guys over there and you guys, oh, don't think I can forget that silhouette talking about Perez. He broke like 70 yards out. He said you can never forget that one. Yeah. I can be a honing beacon for a big weight day. And then I guess I'll take that. Yeah. man right there. But there was this, we gotta talk about a situation

that happened today, because Jack came up to me and I said, he said, oh, we saw Bo. I said, how was he? He said, I think he wasn't that happy. And I said, well, what happened? He said, well, we were talking to him. But we found out, Big Wave told us

that Bo had just made a bogey and then was on the whole end. And something happened with, I don't know if your shot went off and Perez chose the worst time to be like, looks like it's visor season or something like that. Which was not ideal timing from the young man. Yeah, it's not like I'd been following the three holes.

I saw him, whip out, hook one in the trees. And I was like, Bo, Bo, Bo, Bo. Bo, what's going on, man? You were to birdie in? I just rolled up on him. We were like, oh, that's Bo in Big Wave. I was like, oh. Yeah, it's like, because you had texted him that last night.

Like, it was advised. It's always visors. For sure. Especially when it's 150 degrees. It's definitely a visor season. I'll tell you what. I wasn't thrilled, blew my drive on the last hole into the trees. I still get you still showed

He showed love. You did, you did. But I could tell. Big wave in the rear showed. Yeah, big wave in the rear showed. You're an idiot. You're an idiot right now. But let's also talk about you through the vibes out there. I thought we were going to be stymied

behind the tree, chipping out. Sure enough, get up there, off the tree into the first cut. If Perez walked up to the green, we're ending with a three. First cut season. It was a half house after. We just got to get Perez to follow Beau from start to finish. Well, I did that.

that at the Walts Fargo. Yeah, did that in the Wellsford didn't go so well. Yeah, it wasn't great for Homa. So I don't know. Maybe I just got to, I don't know. I don't know what I, yeah, I got to focus on other people. Spread the love. Didn't you get Big Wave Dave to wear the Fat Perez merch, the hat?

The hat. Was it a pro-am day? I mean, it's disrespectful to act like I needed to ask him to wear it. I mean, Perez overnighted me tons of swag. The smallest medium shirt you've ever seen. Yeah, we got to work on that. Gilden's got to be better. I got a Peter Marr deal.

You know, they hooked Big Wave up with clothes. He's a small, now, their stuff runs big, to be sure. But he's like, yeah, you know, medium T-shirt. I'm like, yeah, it's appropriate. But I didn't, you know, comes kind of folded. And I was like, hey, Perez sent you some stuff too. So, you know, here's your swag. He's like, oh, cool.

I see him the next day. I'm like, dude, that logo on the shirt suite, he goes, yeah, I mean, if I could, like, fit it over my head. Like, my head literally didn't fit. I will say the designs are gold. The designs are crazy. It's the best logo in sports. My merch guy's going to love hearing that.

It's coming at you with the race. We made a deal because I don't know if you guys know this. Obviously, caddies have to wear colored shirts under the bib. But there's like Memorial. If you play the Masters and they're, I want to say, oh, I think it's Fort Worth. The caddies basically get like a white. They get a onesie. Yeah.

Well, you don't wear a colored shirt. No. It's a t-shirt. And so just so you know, whoever gives Big Wave Dave, you know, the most dialed-in swag that's appropriate to wear under that, which that fat bread. I'm going to give him, I have a shirt with just my normal logo, like right here in the center. If you get a little, like, zip down. Well, that's the thing. So you look at like old school, like Stevie Williams, like a deep V.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. La Cava does it too. La Cava's famous for that, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's on his belly bun.

He's got, like, some, a t-shirt on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If your, if your sponsor just was like, all right, for one weekend, we're going to let you wear a Fat Perez visor. Like, I think we would all come up with, like, scratch as much money we can together to get him to rock a Fat Perez visor. It's like a NASCAR. Like, just give me, like, the right quarter panel.

It'd be so sick. I think, like, you know, this is my opinion. The next silhouette for Perez, especially after today, needs to be just the silhouette with the duck cane. Yes. You know what I mean? That's the type of stuff that we need. Whant. I guess we got to go into this because I've been holding this cane without.

It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. All right. Yeah, yeah, we'll get into it. So I went to a small, like, D3 school to play golf out of high school. And, like, it's in Farmville, Virginia. So it tells you all you need to know is 1100 students. Pepper Don. Not Pepper Don.

Pepper Don, Pepperdon East. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, we're in the middle of nowhere. And there's not a whole lot. lot going on. So like, tractor supply, if people don't know this, they sell live ducklings and chickens. So we decided at some point that we were

going to all buy a duckling. So we went to tractor supply and bought a bunch of ducks, me and some buddies, and we probably had eight ducks. So we all named our ducks and they get these little areas. Like you make basically a home form. They need like a heat lamp. There's a whole setup, dude. You got to clean it out. All they do is eating shit, right?

Give the duck names real quick. We had, the ones that I can remember. were Little Wayne, Little Earl, Tennessee Jed, and Larry Bird, which is by far the best duck name that you could ever come up with. So we had these ducks and you had them for long enough and like, you know, your duck kind of, I mean, they get used to you, right? You're the only thing they see. So like your duck knows you. And it got to the point where like, I was in the type of college where you could walk around and I would just let my duck out. I'd like walk down the stairs of the dorm

It would just like kind of hop down the stairs And it would follow me across campus Was it like Mallard duck? Yeah It was uh they were called they were blue Swedes Was that that was the type of duck That's a fancy duck It was a nice duck

It was kind of yellow and had like a blueish hue to his coat Um This is ridiculous by the way You're walking around campus with these dogs Yeah so they would follow you They'd follow behind you They would just sort of like keep like they keep going They'd follow like you were like you were mama duck

It's a smart You were their mama duck Yeah Well, yeah, I mean, that's just their instinct, right? So we go to class and they'd hang out outside the building and, like, there's a bunch of ducks. And like when you, they all look the same. I don't know what my duck. Like if you, you know, there's 10 ducks here.

I have no idea which ducks might. But I walk by the group of ducks and one of them comes out and starts following you. That's my duck. So we go to dining hall. There's a little pond by the dining hall. They would go play in the pond and you'd come out to eat. You'd walk by him and your duck would come out and file you back to the dorm room. This is not the most ridiculous podcast.

I promise you this is true. So we had these ducks for probably a semester, the better part of a semester. And then it was like, all right, these things are growing a little bit. They are like, you know, the bigger they get, the more they shit. Like it's, there's a lot to this. And like, this is not where a duck should live, right? And this like closet of a dorm room. So our buddy had like a farm nearby and we took all the ducks to the farm and sort of like,

we'll come and see him. And like, we knew we weren't going to ever see this ducks again. It was that sad? It was a sad day. I'm not going to lie to you. So I've always, like, had a thing for ducks. I hate geese, by the way. Geese are miserable.

They're ruthless, mean birds. They're nuisance. They just shit. They eat, especially in a golf course. They just like walk. They don't give a fuck. And so I hate geese, but I love ducks. So we're walking through the lobby.

We're at the Peabody Hotel in Memphis. And their thing is they have this duck palace on top of the hotel. And they bring these ducks down in the ceremony at 11 a. am every day they stay in the fountain in the lobby until five and they have a similar ceremony they take them back up the elevator to their duck palace so i find out about this and you guys well mostly you guys find out about this in my duck story from college and you're like we need to get Perez needs to be honorary duck master for it's like one of these nights that we're here which we thought was like is that even like achievable like have no idea and like oh it was cold cuts yeah cold cuts goes to the front

desk and like my buddy loves ducks we stay the peabondy specifically because of this duck, like, because of the ducks, like, would mean so, like, what do we need to do? And they were like, it's $200. And like, you got to pay for it. And then, like, if there's nobody that's, like, doing it tonight, then, like, you can do it. If there's something's doing it, like, you're out of luck. And like, luckily tonight, there was nobody doing this duck thing. And so I just, I just followed the lead of the duck. They literally have a guy that is a duck master at this hotel who trains these ducks. It's his job. He trains these ducks to do they, he told me he's like they have three months

rotations and they bring new ducks and chain him you know what I was anyway so I got a cane and you know this is like I don't even know like I'm gonna have this when I'm 60 and need it I'm and I'm gonna have this story and it's gonna be fantastic you know what I was thinking because like I texted you I wanted to get you over there to see that

I texted Kegan for him to come Wild Rory's at our hotel like imagine Rory McElroy coming back into the hotel and he sees Perez in the lobby with the doing the duck shelf is the guy's The PGA tour just brought on to get content. And I started to realize, I started to realize at the beginning that this duckmaster guy is involving a lot of children in the ceremony.

Children are rolling out the carpet. They're lining it. And I'm starting to think like, this is for kids. I'm a grown man that's going to go through a ceremony that basically children do. And, I mean, the guy was cool. You like knighted me with the duck cane, gave me my own duck cane. And I'm like, you got a certificate, too. I got a certificate.

you know, it's one of my only certificates that I got degrees, if you will. He got him off the elevator at the roof and he's like, I've done my job. Like, you got to get him to the duck palace. So I'm like hurting these ducks with the cane like back to their little like coop. Is that what the canes for? Yeah. Yeah. Sort of like he don't touch him, but it's like a little bit of like.

So just guiding him. I'm just listening to this. And I got to ask you, Bo, when you like, we're some of the most outrageous people ever. Like when you came to play with Bob and I like and you saw me, like, and you saw me, I think I was wearing a, you know, a tiger shirt and orange pants. Like, what is going through your head? Are you just like, these guys are nuts? Like, honestly, a lot of my buddies that I grew up are goofy like you guys, though.

Okay. Okay. I'll take that. We like that. Goofy's nice. He fit right in. Yeah. And that's a couple of bars. I mean, you're a little bit of and not yourself.

I mean, I'm telling you. I hang out with some goofy. Totally. I think that's why it mixes. Like, just super like, who cares? No one, you know, not serious at all. You know what we were saying to? Like for us, even like vlogging with people and like doing the different videos that we've been doing it.

And that was the first time we did a scramble versus pro. It's so much more meaningful to get a guy that like understands what we're doing and fits in with us rather than like the top like five player in the world because it just flows so much better when you came on with us. It was ever. Well, you have me on when I'm top five in the world. Fuck yeah. I mean, yeah. That was yeah. Yeah.

You kind of led that one in there a little bit. Well, yeah, I mean, we would have it regardless. But I'm just saying, like, it just, it's when you have somebody that understands kind of what we're doing, vice versa. I think you're one of us. Like I said, if the whole tour thing didn't ever work out. I honestly think sometimes we need to, like, actually show more respect on the course sometimes because it's like, oh, hey, there's bow. And it's like, because you're like one of, you're like one of the stories. And it's sometimes like, you know, I mean, he's on the range.

He's practicing his game. Maybe we should like leave him alone a little bit. But like, I think it's a testament to the fact that. what Bob says is like, I really look at you as like one of the crew. Like you're just, uh, you fit in easily and you're hysterical and you get it. And I think that's the thing for me, which, which I wish we could change for the tour is that they don't, you just don't get that perspective of like, you're a perfect example of how funny and like how witty and like how just how much you are.

Because when you're on the course, it's all business and you don't see that element. And I think when the people who follow us and our and our followers and stuff, they watch it. They're like, this guy is the best because they don't see that on the course. So, like, hopefully, you know, like. But they also have this mindset as well, to the contrary, where they see a video like we did. Yeah. And then somehow they expect that, oh, they go to the tournament in Memphis. And that's going to be my attitude of the tour event.

Yeah, that's true. That's true. That's like a lot of, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, a lot of people were surprised. You're a different guy. Obviously, to some degree. I'm saying when I'm out here, like, I'm competing.

Yeah. It's a job. Yeah, for sure. And we're trying to win. We're trying to play the best we can. And obviously, especially this week, you guys have seen like the preparation that goes in is like, I mean, dude, it's hot as shit out there. We're all grinding our ass off. You know what I mean?

Like, it's brutal. It's no, like, hit and giggle. But when we're home and with the boys, like, it's a freaking hitting giggle. Yeah. You're trying to have as much fun as you can. Like shit and talk shit. You know, if whatever, a lot of the guys that I play with at home, like, they're just country club golfers. They're drinking cocktails, doing whatever.

Yeah. But obviously, like, I'm very serious when I'm at home doing my work, but I'm able to get away from it, given the right circumstances right. But yeah, to your point, it's probably interesting for you guys to see as well. Yeah. Particularly early in the week this week. I bet it was eye-opening for you guys to see. Because I've seen you during the tournaments, but I'm not sure.

Have you guys come out before and watch? Normally, Wednesday was early. And that's what was cool. I mean, there's nobody else out there, so you really get to see it. It also, I think with this tournament, it's so important that, like, you even feel it, you feel that it's more tense than other tournaments, even when it was just us out there. I mean, if you go to, like, I would imagine that, like, the heritage at Hilton Head, the week after Augusta is a much different vibe from everybody, even the most serious guys generally,

than, you know, the first stop of the playoffs where a guy is outside the top 60 and needs to get, needs to get his job. I mean, you know, you might not even take your family out here. Like you want to fully focus. Like you said, the heat, there's so much more to it, like staying hydrated, staying, I mean, it takes a lot out of you. And if you come here on a Tuesday and Wednesday and you don't feel like you have your best stuff and you need to find it, like in the heat, like, that's stressful.

I can't imagine what that's like. That's crazy. Yeah. I mean, it's what we do. So it's not like we, it's not like we, I can't. I can't speak or anybody else. But for me, I don't have to, like, force myself to go work. Like, I know that my goal Monday to Wednesday is,

my game can be in great shape and I don't feel like I have to do that much. Or I could be like, holy shit, like Mayday. Yeah. Yeah, we're rebuilding. Yeah. Yeah. But, I mean, stuff like that. Even, like, equipment, right?

Like, you probably saw equipment reps going back and forth. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot that goes into it. I would imagine, like, wedges. like specifically early in the week when it's dry and I get I think this is like you said is this is generally a firm and fast golf course where you obviously don't want very much bounce on a wedge I'm getting super tech like well for you guys probably technical but and then some rain like this comes

and these guys have gotten their setup potentially or brought their kind of firm and fast wedges and you know tour van's leaving on Wednesday afternoon right and that rain comes through fortunately comes through Tuesday and not Wednesday night right do you I guess this question, do you carry around, do you carry different, do you vary that much on your wedge setup based on that? And do you kind of bring a backup in case some weather like this comes? I have. To be honest, for me, like when it gets like this, I'll actually just use like my sandwich. For example, I have the Bermuda.

Okay. But other guys will carry multiple 60 degree wedges. I don't think you'll see them switch pitching wedge, gap wedge, sand wedge, but definitely lawbush. There's guys tons of guys out here that carry multiple law, but two to three law bages a week. Okay. For exactly what you're talking about, turf conditions, whatever.

I personally don't. I've just used the same one for basically the whole year. Reason being, I don't love changing how it reacts in the fairway and the bunkers. So like Bermuda Ruff, I'll actually chip mainly with my sandwich.

Which has more bounce. More bounce. Actually, I have a fairway too. I don't know if you guys how close you got up by the greens. But, I mean, of course, it's in fantastic shape, but short of the greens is all Bermuda into the grain, and now after the rain is soft, it's gnarly. You'll see guys, I promise you, flubbing chips this week.

We saw them like crazy today. Well, he's just context got to be so perfect. Believe it or not, you were seeing guys flubbing them with, that was with preferred lives. We were teeing those things out today. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, if you're playing the ball down, sit down a little bit, oh, like I had one today, ball in hand.

I'm like, I told wave. I'm like, dude, I'm a good short game player. I'm not I'm not chipping this. I have to bump this. I could easily hit this six inches for me. And there's a lot of water green side in some of these holes too. If you're on the other side with, you know, lie like you're talking about.

And, you know, even if the water, even if the pins not close to the water, it can get a little sketchy. How hard is it people like always say like saying like tunnel division, especially with golf and like now looking at the leaderboard, stuff like that? You've had some torrents where like you go real deep and you're in the feature group. Like you hear roars from the crowd. How hard is it like?

to not focus on what other players are doing and what number you need to have? Is it almost impossible to not have that in your head? Yeah, I mean, I think it's not important until... It's not important until you'll make a decision differently based on where you are. And that only comes really when you're in contention with, I'm going to say, nine or less holes left. meaning if you're playing nine you got nine holes left you got a five shot lead like

you're going to strategize differently on the right sure now same deal you had eight holes left and your two three four back like you're you may or may not strategize a little bit more aggressive i don't i actually i was talking to someone a mental coach out here this week i was telling it's interesting like i think it's so much easier mentally when it's difficult because it's a lot easier to be patient. It's a lot easier to be accepting of bad shots or bad results because you know that it's happening to everybody. Versus sometimes we get going in the summer,

like the scores are really low on tour in the summer. Ball's going far. They have to water the courses so they're pretty soft. We're playing in really pure greens, usually bent greens. And you'll see, you know, like Fina won those last two weeks. I want to say the winning scores were both like mid-20s in the bar. Yeah, that's crazy. Well, dude, I'll tell you what,

When you're two over after nine holes the first round, and you know those swarms to win the terms to be 23 under, you're like, holy shit, you know. Like, we're grinding to make the cut now versus tit. Well, today, I guess. Normal week on this golf course, very difficult golf course normally when it's firm and fast. You shoot two over on the front.

It's like it's all good. Five under might win this tournament. Sure. So I actually feel like it's a little bit easier to be patient when it's freaking hard. It makes sense. You guys are at the country club. It makes a hard it was.

Like you're not hitting the panic button shooting two, three, four over part of the first round because they're so long to go. And you know that these other guys, everybody's going to have a 9, 10, 18 whole stretch. That's a freaking bitch out there, right? Sure. And you're trying to stay focused, right? I mean, the effort is to try to stay focused when it's difficult. It's very easy to stay focused from first to last shot, right?

When it's easy, when it's birdies and, like, you're playing well and you know the scores are a lot, like, it's easy to, like, start kind of chit-chatting and kind of, losing track of what you're doing and then you've got to try to bring yourself back. Yeah, or you start pressing trying to make birdies. Sure. It's just, it's, it's crazy. It's an interesting dynamic. You'd think it'd be the other way around.

Yeah, it makes sense, though, when you say. It's like, dude, a lot of the weeks now, the cut is four or five under par. And so I'm talking about, like, not that you're worried about making cuts, but I'm saying, if you're not playing the weekend, you're not win the tournament. So you go shoot even part, you go shoot even part of the first round. you're like, holy shit, dude, I've got to get hot tomorrow to play the weekend, you know? That's a lot of pressure. Yeah, it's just the point is it's like you start pressing because you know that everybody around you is going so low.

I prefer personally like, oh man, my mental game, I'm way more in the moment when it's difficult because also you can't afford to get ahead of yourself. Kegan told us, we asked him because he was in a final pairing a little while ago. And we said, is it like nerve-wracking when you're trying to win a tournament? He said it's a lot more nerve-wracking for him anyways. And I'm interested to see your take on this when he's right near the cut rather than when he's like trying to like go through and win a tournament. And I found that so interesting because I'm like, you think that like with all the TV coverage and everything with you on when you're trying to win, it'd be way more nerve-wracking. But he was like, you know what?

I already know I'm like basically in the money. I'm doing well. And I can relax a lot more. when you're in the cut, it's like it's a lot of pressure, no? It's funny. I've never heard anyone else say that. I feel exactly the same way. And the reason being also, think about it from this perspective.

If you're in the top five going into the final round, you're playing some freaking really good golf. So you're like, oh, dude, I'm good. Like, I'm playing great. You start shooting some okay scores and then you need to perform. Like, man, I'm just not playing that well. Not seeing putts going in. I'm driving it all over the place.

My wedgers, the irons aren't tight. I think that's probably part of it. And I agree with him. I've had tons of scenarios where I will feel less comfortable in 15th or 20th place than I do right up with a chance to win because I'm like, man, I'm playing well. And to his point, I mean, yeah, there's a difference. But, like, dude, if you're going to make 350 or 550,000, you're pretty thrilled either way. Yeah.

I'm saying, but like, you're like, hey, man, I have an opportunity to win. You know what I mean? You're not worried about going back. Of course, because you don't get an opportunity to win that often. It's hard to do, man. I see a situation like with Mito Pereira for the PGA championship when he was so close and had it. And like, that's the difference of like, what, one or two million dollars? Like, that's a life-changing amount of money.

Obviously, he's a really good golfer and he's going to be good. But like to me, I always feel like when I'm playing and I'm trying to win, I'm always, like, conscious of what the people behind me are doing. But I guess it's just, it's just a different dynamic. And it's a different way of, like, looking at the game, I guess. And I think for me, and this is. something Perez has shown me is like when you play your best golf you just kind of stay in your own lane and you just kind of focus on what you're doing and not surround yourself with what everyone else is and that's something i have to learn on do not that i'm playing at eight tournaments and

that even is what you're doing it's what you've done right before i mean it's every shot every shot's a independent thing like you you're hitting you know you got eight iron from the middle of fairway you're not going to hit a better eight iron because you've just birdied the last four holes it's still an eight iron swing that doesn't care if you're four under or four over, you have to focus on hitting your best shot every shot that's put in front of you. And if you do that for 18 holes and come up for water, you know, come up for air, the effect of that is going to be a really good score. 100%. Yeah, that's the key. And it sounds so easy to talk about, right? But doing it is, is challenging. I would say every player on tour at some level struggles with staying

the moment or not pressing or whatever at some point obviously yeah everybody tiger wood's best mental player all time you hear him talk about stuff like that sometimes right like i was pressing i was trying to do it yeah well that's that's that's that's nature you're trying to win yeah that's what i was going to ask you if you if say you're you're out of it you're you're going to miss the cut on a friday and you know it are you just just going to say fucking just start like slinging trick shots or like are you like are you always in it like look at it like look you don't get the opportunity to get reps right that often in that environment So yeah, is it meaningless?

Yes. But is it still a PGA tour golf course set up in the tournament? Yes. So take advantage of it. You know what made me look at golf different? And it was either you or Big Wave said it to me. Pretty much with the tour that I think a lot of people don't know is that you guys are independent contractors.

And you have to pay for the flights for your caddy, your coach, and all of that stuff. So if you fly cross-country, you pay for all of that. Then you're fighting to be into the cut. And it's like if you don't make the cut, hey, you pack up and go home. You lost money, which either you were big wave said that to me and I always watch golf different sense. I don't think a lot of people, maybe they either haven't thought about it or they just don't realize that that's the case. I didn't. But it's, yeah, I would say to my knowledge is probably the only sport that you can go to an event at the highest level.

not perform well. And yeah, I'd say realistically, like, you miss a cut by the time you pay your team and travel and all that, it's eight to 12 grand, probably, you know? But honestly, the thing that really sucks about missing a cut is when you're far from home and you're playing the next week, and you're like, damn, I've got to sit here for two fucking days. It doesn't make sense to go home for a day.

You know what I mean? It's like I got to go too far to be home for 24 hours. So I'm going to sit here on, like I did this in Minnesota because we were going to Detroit, Missicott in Minnesota. I had a freaking practice at the course on Saturday, Sunday. I'm not going to go like lay over, go home, layover again, especially with October.

To get there Monday night. I mean, I don't even have. If you're not playing, are you watching? Yeah, I'll watch, especially if like a friend of mine is doing well. Gotcha. But yeah, I'll peek at it. I always look at the leaderboard and stuff, but yeah, I mean, dude, the miss cut, like, sucks to obviously. Sucks to miss a cut in Minnesota.

Minnesota of all places. You miss a cut in Hawaii and California. You miss a cut in the wrong spot and you're playing the next week. I didn't realize that you could go out on Saturday Sunday even if you missed the cut and practice. Just go to the range, yeah. Use the gym. They have a gym truck or whatever that travels with the tour. So on the other side of that.

Wow. Whoa, Bobby boy. Wow. That was a big time. Oh, my God. Look that finger, dog. That was a birdie, huh? Look that finger, dog.

People need to see what happened. I really hope you got that. I really hope you got that. Oh, man, Bob. On another note, the side of that, if you are playing great, how good does it feel like every night you go home and you know you're in it, you know you're playing great? Is it just like an ultimate feeling?

I wish I could say yes, but I think it's just like, I mean, it's great, but it's, it takes a lot out of you, dude. Playing good golf takes a lot out of you. Because you've seen it. You've seen what comes with, you know, being in one of the final pairings, the crowd. Not that it's not a problem, I'm saying, it's just, it's an exhausting experience. It's a long, freaking day. It's stressful.

long day. But like you finish and you play well on Saturday. And you're like, all right, shit, all right. And then you're like, man,

I got to like bear down and get one more good one of this. You know what I mean? Yeah. You got a long time to wait on Sunday, too. How often do you see guys, especially guys that haven't won a lot? They'll win.

And they'll go out the next week and shoot a million. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you're like, he's playing well right now. Yeah. Tough 40?

Easy. He just shot 77, 76 by 12. Like, what just happened? But I'm saying it's like, you just exhaled. Happens a lot. He did it in the exhale. Yeah. After majors.

You know what I think about, too? This sounds so ridiculous, but it's true. And then you think about it from their side. Are you about to compare yourself to? No, we've had a day where we bet on these guys, like on a Sunday. And at the end of the 18, we're like, we're exhausted. Yeah. And then, yeah.

And watch and round, good round, Cammy. And then we come back to next week. And lose even more. Yeah. It's the same thing. You know what I mean? Like we'll bet on the guy on a Sunday. We follow every shot.

If you go back and I think we take it for granted, if you go back and watch what Tiger did and like just how much he dominated. Like it wasn't even close. That makes his legacy just so much more impressive. The fact that like he would be behind going into the final day by six, seven strokes. And people like, oh yeah,

Tiger's probably going to come back and win. And like guys are gripping the clubs like tighter because he's like two, three, behind and it's like this guy was doing it for like a full year to two years he couldn't miss nobody won on the clip the tiger won i mean you just look at his odds when he went into that that st angers british open in 2000 he was two to one he was two to one crazy he was plus 200 to win a major which obviously those odds they knew people were going to bet on him so the odds were skewed it probably like should have been even plus 500 stupid right like plus 600 is like

whoa this guy's really a favorite he's plus 200 anyone of course he did the picture yeah you post on instagram of you and tiger and you said you captioned i think it was like what did tiger tell me like what did he say oh so it was we're at the

pGA and I'm sure they had it the os open too oh you guys were at both on the range there they had I don't know who does it top tracer or trackman or whatever where they're showing the lasers on the range shots

and they're showing the spin and the launch and the ball speed and that. And the day before I was on the range and Matt Wolfe, who's probably one of the longest hitters when I was on the live, but when he was on tour, he was one of the longest hitters out here. I was just kind of, it was really hot there too. I was just chilling watching him hit some balls for a second,

taking a breather, and he's just swinging out of his ass. And it says 199 balls. And I'm like, that's nuclear. But I'm like, there's no freaking way that's $199. Like that thing's juiced. It's probably $192, but I'm saying it wasn't $199. So I'm like, this thing's juiced. So the next day I'm hitting on the range next to Tiger.

And I'll tell you what, Tiger, every time I've ever talked to him, has been outstanding. But he's certainly usually not someone that's going to, like, spark up a conversation, right? Right. You got to go to him. He'll give me a head nod and kind of what's up. And then move on. But I'm hitting next to him on the range.

And, dude, I mean, there's, it's incredible. God bless that guy. I mean, he literally can't hit balls for five minutes without 15 cameras being right. Yeah. I mean, you know, I haven't seen that much of him just because, like, since I've been on tour, he's kind of been hurt, like, pretty much the whole time. But, like, I've been around, like, Rory. He's probably the most popular player now or Jordan.

Sure. And, like, there will be a camera. Tiger has 15. It's crazy. And that's now. It's crazy. Anyways, so there's all these cameras. And he's hit drivers, and he has his launch monitor that's on up on his phone or his

Cady's phone. And it shows up 185 ball speed. I go, I go, dude, who'd you pay to freaking throw that 185? No chance. That's 185. I go, what did you get? He goes, yeah, mine said 175. Yeah.

I go, the crazy part is you're going to freaking break the internet. It's not even legit. Yeah, that's hilarious. Is he tiger, dude? He's swinging it well. He's back. Better than he was. in his prime.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, he's hitting a 30 pass where he did in 2008. Oh, interesting. Yeah, but it was just juice. I was just busting his balls. So I was like, man, I was like, the funny part, if anybody else's thing out here was juice, you'd be like, oh, damn, like, McElroy is shipping it. But it's like, he does that.

It's like, oh, he's back. We're back. Yeah, right. Right. It's just like, oh, my God. Somebody's got the stats somewhere of the last time. And they recorded 185 ball speed out of Tiger. And they're like, we haven't seen this since the 20, you know,

2006 Bridgestone, right? Right, exactly. He always has this guy, Rob, that's like a really good friend of his that's always out with him. Kind of like just handle, I mean, he's always with him, taking care of stuff, et cetera. And Rob and I are both like big Dodger fans. So we're, you know, fairly friendly. And he heard me say that to Tiger. Obviously, I don't have Tiger's number, but I got Rob's number.

So that evening, I saw someone tweeted a picture of that. No, I don't know if it's a number. said anything crazy, but it was like, oh, damn, like Tiger's hammered it or whatever. And so I just screenshot it and said it to Rob. I told you you're going to friction the internet of these drives on the PGA. I had, um, I don't know, it might have been Keegan or somebody had told me he played around with Tiger and he said, of course, like it's just so much different playing around with him, that what he'll do, like out of respect and he talked to him about it or whatever,

that if Tiger is a little bit out, like he's very close to the hole, but his ball's out, he let it might have been Keegan he let and Keegan's like a little ahead of them it's both puts that they're going to make he'll let so that the gallery doesn't just start charging over which to me is insane he's good about that man

you know and that's something he that's a burden that he has to think about that no one else has to right I didn't even thought about that makes all the sense of the world honestly that's really cool that it does that because people running all over the place when you got three footers not fun you know and not that it's like You're going to miss them, but I'm just saying, like, at that point, that's a legitimate

disadvantage to deal with. On an 18-hole scale or 36-holes. They talk Tiger effect when it comes to, like, getting paired with him. Like, there's an impact on, like, it's, I don't remember how many strokes it was, but at one point they were, like, looked at the averages. It was, like, a stroke and a half difference between playing with Tiger and not playing with Tiger, even in the same, yeah. Has you been paired with him?

I haven't, no. I never even played one hole with him. It's what you said. This is really true, though. I mean, 99% of players you would think wouldn't have to think about that. No, and probably early in his career he didn't because he was so focused. But, you know, he might have realized it. But as he got, you know, kind of older, I'm sure, you know, he's just, you get, you get experience. And he probably realized at some point that, like, this is making an impact on people.

And before, he might not have cared. He might have thought that was the advantage that he got. He might have loved it, right? There was a point in his career that he took advantage of those things, right? And not in like a like a bad way, but like it's part of his effect on the tour. But now he's like he's definitely come. There was a point it seemed like where he was kind of in his own world on purpose when it came to the tour and hanging out and making friends and stuff because he was there for one reason.

And now he's, it seems in the last few years since I feel like he's happy to be back. It feels fortunate that he's out there again. And I think he's not taking it for granted at all. And he's just, you know, he's more friendly, it seems like with everybody. Yeah. His reception on tour, like, it's pretty cool to see, actually. I mean, all, dude, every player out there when he's playing a tournament is, like, thrilled that he's back playing.

It's so good for the tour, man. That's awesome. It's great for everybody. But, I mean, like you said, I mean, clearly, and he's talked about this over and over. I mean, with his injuries, like, he's not going to play the schedule that he's ever played in the past. But, like, I think in a way, from a non-competitive stance whatsoever, like, you almost, like, cherish playing a tournament that he's playing it because I don't know I mean he's not weighed that

many yeah yeah he's only playing majors right now it seems like I bet you I can count on two hands the amount of tournaments that I've played that he's played as well and you've been out and how long have you been out here if you're on tour but I'm crazy he's been pretty injured for yeah a pretty fair about a time right so it's good to it's really cool to see him play you don't see it that often yeah um and I think in a way To your point, I think he appreciates playing probably more than he ever has in his life. And not to mention, he was injured all the time when he was playing awesome too. I'm just saying at this point, it's like it's a different level, right?

It's like he was injured, but like he'd take time off, get healthy and then play for a long time and they get hurt again. Now it's like it feels like he plays, but he's never really like 100% or even close. You think guys, maybe it's like one of the reasons why he stayed away from Live is because now he can just stay with the tour and just plays four majors or whatever and focus on that. I think that probably has some impact to some degree rather than playing all these other tournaments. I'm sure he values, you know, I'm not going to put words in Tiger Woods his mouth, but I think he probably values what he can play at this point from here on out. He wants it to mean something. And at this point, nobody, even the biggest proponents of Liv Gough,

can say that any of those tournaments move the needle in anyone's mind from like a legacy perspective. you know maybe at one point they will but right now dude like no one cares what like about these tournaments it is right so if he's going to spend his time yeah he doesn't he doesn't need that bag from live he doesn't dude and i think what they offer him though 800 million yeah how much is too much when you've got that like what's got more what's what's what's you know when you got 800 million what's 800 million more day to day i mean it was you know it would it would impact generations of woods going forward right like it would double the impact generationally you would think maybe you know there's a whole lot of finance there but like even further but

you know if he's going to go out and play five times a year you know or seven times a year and four of them are majors he wants those three tournaments to have something to them you know a memorial or you know the tory pines tournament these things that he doesn't have you know there's no point to go try to help somebody else create something that he he spent his whole career putting a tour higher than it was when he started. Why is he going to do that again right now? Do you notice, Bo, and this is like on a total other note, like with obviously Tiger helped the game so much, but like now the game, it almost feels like is more popular than ever? Do you notice, like, even the younger guys coming in because how many people are playing it now and the competition is harder? Like, you already

have all these guys that you have to worry about on tours as of now. Are the younger guys coming in? Are they just getting better and better for the new guys coming in? Yeah, I think so. I mean, I would say the game from a competitive level, it has to be the best that it's ever been. I mean, depth-wise, age-wise, you have a ton of young guys. I mean, it's incredible, right? It's awesome. But yeah, I totally agree. I was saying this, when I came out of college, I had played in some U.S. Opens, played in a tour event. And I was like, man, these guys are really good. But I'll tell you what, there's a handful of college players a year that can't. can compete and win on the PJ tour.

Honestly believe that. And I said that, and this was kind of before it really was like really happening. I would say like frankly, since Tiger Woods, Jordan Speath, probably the first guy that was really super competitive at a really young age.

Dude, that almost feels in a way like normal. Yeah. Guys within two, three years of coming out of college are winning, contending a lot, winning majors.

Oh, right of course. Presidents' cups. How did it. Victor, Wolf one quick. Yeah, but you're seeing that all over the place. But you also still have guys, not the, Rohre's old, but I'm saying relatively to those guys he is.

I mean, he's, how old do you think Rory is? 30, 34, yeah, 33, 34, probably. Mid-30s. Yeah, but he's been, I guess I would just call him a veteran because he's played for so long. I mean, the term program is eight years, I guess. I mean, he's been playing forever. he is still as good as he's ever been.

Yeah. I mean, he's arguably at his prime. I mean, I'm not talking about like wins. I'm talking about just golf game. Golf game, yeah. He's incredible, right? Yeah, he's now competing against a flurry of young guys and late 20s guys too. And all the way up, I mean, some guys, you know, still really good until 40.

But I think you'll see in this next generation because of how we've grown up playing because distance has been a big issue since we were young, that you'll start to see kind of my generation being competitive, in my opinion, later into their 40s. Okay. Because I think the people that are at that age now, they didn't grow up with this distance thing being such a priority when they were young. Right.

So they've almost, in a way, like a lot of guys have been short. It's got longer with age, yeah. Correct. But I think you'll see guys, like, in my generation, actually, we've just been long and you stay long. And there will probably be younger guys that come up and hit it even further. But I'm saying, like, dude, if you had it 300, like, you're okay. You can't hit it 275.

Right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So I think that you'll start to see guys stay competitive into their mid-late 40s, assuming they can stay healthy enough to do that. But I think the generation that's there right now, distance wasn't the thing when they were growing up. It was all an accuracy thing. And I think you're starting to see.

Probably starting with guys near Rory's age, like distance was a big deal from the time he was a little kid. Last thing that I got for you, just in regards to the visor, because you're one of the sole guys. Not many guys are rocking the visor and only the visor. Does it, like, is it, are you just more comfortable with it? Does it help? I love that there's a guy out there.

Like, you know, I'd like to see more bucket hat guys out there. Like, you do rep the visor. Not many do it. Is it more comfortable or does it help? it looks cool it looks sexy yeah look good play good

you got out the hair yeah you got a great patch in a way like a subtle like I got a nice mop too yeah it's a low it's a subtle you got it flora

dude if you're wearing a bucket guy could have a beautiful I wear a bucket all the time could be somewhere in the middle could be a guy that Q's thrown a wig on could be yeah I mean you know what they say Bob sex sex

It does. It does. I even noticed with Cutsi, ever since we play with Bo. Cutsi started bringing out the visor. Yeah. It's not a patch like Cutsi. The thing is my hair's too long sometimes. Like I got to maintain it so it's like that.

What a problem. Yeah. That's a good problem. I think, dude, to be honest, I've talked to some, you know, the Vy, the tour visor, the big visor, not the Lane Kiffin Visor, but like the flatbrat. You gotta have a tall forehead too. Go, yeah, you gotta have the right. But I'm saying like a lot of guys.

that was bigger 23rd couples yeah you know what I'm saying like 23 years ago that was kind of almost like semi the standard yeah Bubba's a big visor guy but those guys a lot of those guys that wore in the era are freaking bald now yeah but I'm saying I can tell like you can tell when an old guy wants to wear a visor was like damn like this guy's wearing the visor yeah so were you inspired by somebody you just saw the visor and you're like I'm a visor guy I don't know you know I started to see them in the pro shops in high school. And I just cop on, like, wherever I went. They're just different.

They're usually cheaper than the hat. Did you get, were people like, what's with the visor at the beginning? Or are you just like? Yeah, because I don't know. I feel like it's tough to, like, not respect the visor. Oh, that's true. Yeah. I respected so much.

Yeah. No Kia flex. Yeah, really. I think it's cool. Like, the difference would be, like, if you were to say, like, it's, you could certainly not respect to flat bill on the course because it's not traditional. This is like, dude, we're throwing this back. It has subtle swag to it too.

It's got subtle swag. From a marketing standpoint, it's like if you're just anywhere on the course. It is. It is. And you just see like the visor, like, oh, there's a good chance that's Boe Haasler. Like we've got buying visor. I'm sure when you got to Austin, dude, that Texas visor with the title of script that says Texas, that's like, that's high level stuff.

Like if somebody rocks that. like a high school match, like you better bring some freaking game, dude. Yeah, I feel like you gotta you gotta, you know, you can't let the visor down. Now, if I see a bucket hat, I don't expect the guy to be a good golfer. Well, there you are. It's not taking a shot of you Bob. I'm just saying, I guess

it's more like a relax. It's more of a relaxed fit. You know, it's more like I'm going out to have a good time with the boys. It's true. That's kind of like more chill, you know? I've rocked the bucket hat exclusively when I went up to New York and played with my dad at O'Kill. and I played great.

And there's something about playing great with the visor on. You notice that? Oh, dude, it's like being in a... Yeah, it's sort of like you're in a tunnel. Yeah. It's very odd. Yeah, it's a little weird.

It sounds like I'm freaking clanking it, dude. Yeah. Yeah. You're like, am I talking weird? Well, I got to tell you, I mean, definitely. The Bob does sports, we have our select guys. I mean, Bo Hossler, we'll all,

He's being firmly cemented. Yeah. The Mount Rushmore of touring throws for us. I think the husband from Big Wave this evening, by the time. I know. Big Wave is getting here. I don't think that, yeah, we have to talk about. I mean, just give that a little something here.

Big Wave is a huge. That's why we're all sitting here, quite frankly. Yeah, that's true. I did give him the blessing that. He goes, hey, he's like, the podcast. He goes, I'm wiped. I was like, it's not irreparable damage. No, I mean, he carried a golf bag around in August and Memphis.

The light is on tour, by the way. Yeah, well. He just texted me. He said, I just passed out for a couple hours. I'm sorry, dude. Bo will be better for the pot anyways. We were going to have Bo regardless. Yeah, that's bad deflection.

Big Way acting like he's... Yeah, yeah. We weren't going to have Big Way acting like we're going to push Bo off the set. We only have five mics. So, Bo, we'll get you in the next episode. This one we're going to roll with Big Wave. Yeah. But we really do, man.

We appreciate you. We're always in your corner, Big Dog. Keep wrapping the visor. And ladies... Yeah, let's go. Yeah, let's go ahead some barbecue. Let's import.

Let's overnight some Scott's donuts, too. Whoa. What is the go-to donut for you? Yeah, what's your like a swarming even? There's two. I'm big like on the cake donuts. Like the old-fashioned little like thickness to it is really nice. Dense.

Dense. I don't like the. You probably don't like crispy cream, man. Yeah. You don't like crispy cream? It's melting your mouth. It's good, but it's the texture. They're so good.

Like an old-fashioned clay is really good. Dude, if you can get not a super fluffy, like, maple bar, I have a little bit of girth in it. Mapleware is unreal. Have you had voodoo's donuts in Portland? Yeah, they're nice. Those are good. I need, like, a donut.

Yeah. Top five, like, donut powering. I went to a place in Charleston this past week called Annie's Hot Donuts. And I've also been to another place called Duck Donuts. Duck Donuts is fire. That's out of Duck North Carolina. That's an outer bank. That's a, yeah, I grew up going there.

So I'll give the concept and, you know, basically, Perez can obviously test. Basically, they're taking these and they're cake donuts. Yep. You start with a standard cake donut, literally straight out of the fryer. They have whatever glazed you want. So you want maple, you want chocolate, you want, what would you call it? What is you call it? Oh, just normal glaze.

Yeah, it's really, yeah. They're going to dip it in there like this. They're going to get it halfway. They're going to pull it. And then they got whatever. It's like subway. It's like subway. It's like subway for donuts. They give you like a start and you're like, oh, give me strawberry icing with this and

like throw a little like bacon on top of the dog. Bacon, M&Ms, spring, whatever you want. But dude, here's the thing. I'm talking from the time it comes out of the friar to when it hits your mouth is less than four minutes. Yeah. She's like, you could go to a donut shop and that's a pace of play. Pace of play.

Yeah. Pace of play is awesome. Bo is really a donut connoisseur of some sort. You know what's one of my favorite Bob to Sports clips that doesn't get enough credit. we, Bo, it was Bo versus me, Cutsi and the Caddy Big Wave Dave, our guy and we finally got a hole on him.

Like, Bo was just tearing it up or maybe we even have to, we might not have even got a hole. You have just to extend the math. Yeah, and Cutsi turns to me, he's like, dude, he's like, I think Bo's a little bit worried. And then Jet cuts to the cam, it's the car cam and it turns to Bo and he's just eating the donuts. Yeah, like three donuts during our match.

As comfortable as you could be talking about it. He's close to him. He's got an apple fritter. Yeah, it was amazing. Oh, man, I tell you, awesome episode, fellas. I really enjoyed it both. Thanks for stuff. I'm just glad your finger's sticky.

You didn't lick it off. That was amazing. I mean, we dig it. We didn't get the film out? Yeah, that should be on film. I was trying to keep it together after two, and I wanted to keep laughing. That was tremendous. Another episode, ladies and gentlemen,

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