Bob Does Sports Podcast - Bob Does Sports Talk Internet Invitational

Episode Date: November 19, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Why we're all here today. That's why I think a lot of the people are joined in today, the internet invitation. I mean, the page thing is one shot on one hole, right? That has a very direct outcome. But it's essentially the same thing as like, if you have a bush in front of you, you're going in and just go in the bush. I've done that, but then many times. And then the Gheater, and the Nolose thing is potentially a start to finish every shot affecting situation. There were some talks in like the episode before about like his range finder and cliffhangers. I have not seen proof that the slope was on. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:00:34 If you're him and you know you didn't do it, but then the court of public opinion is just, it's up to them and it's just like, yeah. Pop's not coming today, Pete. What do you mean he's not coming? He's not coming. He said that he could do five o'clock. He's back at the DMV.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Yeah, there have been more messages since those messages. Are you joking me right now? This is a bit. This is something. The DMV is crazy. I'll be honest with you, at this point, with the amount of time that he's gone between Florida, D&B, California, D&B, and Pennsylvania DMB, I don't want to make any accusations. But it feels to me as though he's running some sort of underage ID ring, as in he's going to the DMV twice a week to get a real ID, and he's flipping them to high school kids for a quick buck. And if he can get through the DMV quick enough, it's a good game.
Starting point is 00:01:30 game. But how many people are like that for a few hours? I don't know if it's worth a few hundred bucks. He's going to give him. Do you think maybe that's why he deviated from like really skinny pop to like heavier set pop so he can get multiple different people who look like him? I think he's being insane. He's adjusting his image. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:01:51 But not for nothing. It's, it's, yeah, it's five o'clock on a Saturday. Is the Philadelphia DMV? closed. It's clearly open. Well, he sent a picture. He's the first time he's ever sent a photo from the actual DMV with proof.
Starting point is 00:02:11 But that was two hours ago. How long are you with the DMV? They take a long time. He's now checking and see if the DMV is like. But for those who may not be following, there is a running thing where pop will miss things a lot for the DMV.
Starting point is 00:02:28 But the thing with pop, and I know he's watching it, like the thing with pop's, excuses. Like, I would rather him just say, like, hey, I can't, can't make it. Or honestly, don't even say why you can't. Just be like, hey, I can't do that time or whatnot. He'll throw in things that just make you question if it's real or not. It's like classic stomachache type excuse stuff. The diarrhea is a good one. I'll be honest with you. In my quick search of the Philadelphia area driver's license centers, they're pretty much all
Starting point is 00:03:02 closing at 4.15 on Saturday. Yeah, you're on the weekend time now, baby. Is there a single one that that is open by five? I'm on, I'm on my eighth location and 9th. They're all 415. Bob, those, by the way,
Starting point is 00:03:18 the strike of five, those people are gone. They aren't doing over time. Yeah, but once if you're in line, if you're in line, they might let you wait. They might close the doors at 415. They shut it early so that they don't have to do that. Those people don't stay a second long than they have to.
Starting point is 00:03:33 I talked to him on the phone. It sounded like a DMV to give him the benefit of the doubt, but I wouldn't buy him to put audio recording. Where's Jensen? Grocery stores sound a lot like DMVs as well. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:46 That is fair. Where's J-Bone? What do you mean? Well, this is the pod. I thought he was coming on the pod. It wouldn't shock me if he was in the chat somewhere. This has never been on this podcast? Yeah, the last couple times, I think.
Starting point is 00:04:02 He's been on a few times. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look, I was pretty removed this week for Yankees fantasy camp. So, I mean, I got a, but what can I say? You know, I'm not in the great position right now to be able to take shots at people. But look, that's where we're. My body's broken, dude.
Starting point is 00:04:20 You would think that it's just playing baseball. That's one thing. But one week of playing baseball, mind you, the average age was maybe 70 years old. My body is. so sore from playing. You just don't move those types of muscles, sliding. Dude, I didn't think I'd be sliding past the age to 25. You know, what the, what is Yankees?
Starting point is 00:04:43 Can you explain it? I don't understand. I've never seen anything like it. And then it's wild. These guys go and they go and they play at Georgetown, Brenner Field. And there's coaches, the coaches are like old Yankees. So like Shane Spencer, like, um, yeah, dude. dude, and they dress up.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Mike Musacus? No, Mike Musina. No, Mike Musina. Dude, older than that. Like, Mike Musina would be, these guys would go nuts. Shulus Joe Jackson. Some old guys. They go and they play, and it's, it was a week.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Now, look, people don't want to hear about Yankees' fantasy camp as much as it might be riveting. I know what they do want to hear about. That is the Internet Invitational. That's why we're all here today. That's why I think a lot of the people are joined in today. Overall thoughts, Interimitational has been out. We said that we truly do believe it was some of the best tournament ever filmed, possibly the best YouTube video ever filmed,
Starting point is 00:05:54 and we really meant it. Fellas' thoughts on the overall Internet Invitational. Let's get right into it. I mean, I thought it was looking back at everything that went into it, I couldn't imagine. I don't know how it came all together so well. And I think it was the perfect mix. I'm being honest, I don't know what people necessarily were expecting from it when it came to like a YouTube golf event. But I think with what we were expecting in terms of the YouTube golf world and our world combined with Foreplay and the Barstool world,
Starting point is 00:06:34 I think it was, in my opinion, the perfect mix. And like there's things that came out of it that some people may have liked. They may have not liked, but I will say that I think was the idea to mix, to create an environment that had never been created before with these entities and these groups and to see what happens. And it just kind of came together how it did. We, you know, there were cameras. They filmed everything that happened.
Starting point is 00:06:59 They put out everything that happened. And it's, you know, the world got to witness. it's a great series. Yeah, I don't think we've all been together to talk like the Luquant thing, which kind of seems like an afterthought now, now that the final is out. But the Luquant thing, I think we've all said it, you know, to some degree that it was surprising the way he acted about it after he had slept in. Of course, the whole thing like came to it didn't have the greatest attitude.
Starting point is 00:07:25 But right now in regards to the Melosi Rangefinder, Paige and France doing it, I think people would have enjoyed it as is. Because like you said, you had all those people together. You have Dave around YouTube golf. But that just added to it and really created this. It created legs of its own. That makes any sense. Yeah, I would agree with that.
Starting point is 00:07:51 I think it, like somebody said it was like watching a reality TV show that just happened to be on a golf course. And I think that that is a pretty good way to sum it up. You know, they do like surviving bars to or some of these other shows. So they're very accustomed to having shit go awry. And like, you know, somebody does something out of line or somebody says something that crosses someone else and then there's a reaction. So like it was very cool for me to see that their camera crew, like their production team was on every single second. Like they, they were dialed into people's faces. They were watching the reaction.
Starting point is 00:08:26 So like even the end, like the fact that they got every interaction that beef had with every single person. who came up. It was like they were just so ready for anything that came up. And it really, I mean, I think it says, you know, a good part of what they do. But I think if you would have put that task in another, you know, team's hands, he might not have done it as well as the barstool team did. So that and on top of that, I thought that the production of it, you know, Jed, I know that you were involved with Brendan and they had a team of people doing it.
Starting point is 00:08:57 But I thought it was so well edited, which made it so easy to watch as well. like the golf like especially the first two days you had so many different matches and shots going on they did a really great job of like doing picture and picture and interviews and people talking while still showing the matches and um i mean it was a tough production to nail and i thought that they just did an unbelievable job it was like watching a live broadcast of a pga tour event with the way that it was edited it looked amazing and the content was awesome so home run i mean there were i think there were concerns from from that side of it i don't know like i don't be a lot of people have been asking like how it went i think there were concerns before it starts from everybody about how they were going
Starting point is 00:09:39 to or how we were going to put it together in like a digestible way to watch when it was created and i will say i didn't edit one like all the the physical editing was done by barso they have a lot of people they they basically broke down the matches for between them their guys they edited all the matches individually and then they kind of went through and obviously Brendan Jones pretty much he's producer Barstle he led the whole thing and then and then after that they decided kind of how they were going to piece a story line together and then I would I ended up you know looking at them as they came in and helping out after that in terms of like do we want to do this do we want to cut that what are we showing like keeping it that YouTube golf field so when they sent me the first one I was like not
Starting point is 00:10:24 concerned but I was like all right what are we going to see and then when I saw the way that they had originally styled it. We knew we had like a home run. We just had to tweak it and make it more, you know, for YouTube. So yeah, I would say they did. I think they deserve a lot of credit. A lot of people were like messaging me like, you know, as if I had done it. I helped out a little bit, but it's all credit to the guys over there.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Brendan, man, what a guy. That guy killed it. Yeah. Yeah. The other thing, too, is like the format, the production part of it is obviously a huge lift and very difficult. but I think the format that we landed on really just, it really played very well to the unpredictability of it
Starting point is 00:11:04 and that it kind of caught everybody in and gave everybody a chance me. Yeah, it feels like a combination of Survivor and like The Bachelor almost with the drafts and picking the teams, a little bit of beast games, and then, yeah, like a tour coverage golf event. So you sort of had this like cherry picking of all these great things that come across
Starting point is 00:11:24 a lot of really successful good entertainment products, right? And then, yeah, I think we never, I don't know if I expected it to turn out, at least with the first one, as good of a final product as it ended up being. I just assumed, and probably everyone did to some extent, would there be some sort of learning curve or things that we saw that, you know, with maybe a little more time or we could button up that might be better for the ones to come. It really didn't feel like there was any like glaring holes or anything like that in the videos that I saw for sure. You know, I think, you know, we all did a good job on the front end of our conversations between us and Barstool.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Guys of really thinking through from start to finish what all these format course set up, you know, dinner. Like dinners, draft timing, who's going to be where, who's allowed, where. who can do what i think we you know that effort that we put in on the front end to play everything out to the kind of to the finish line and not let anything maybe potentially fall through the cracks um i think that paid off clearly um you know i've heard nothing but good things from people that have loved it were locked into it couldn't wait for the next one to come out i mean it was a serious amount of watch time to get through so you know it has to be good and captivating to get somebody to watch that much golf.
Starting point is 00:12:54 And I think people did. I didn't hear really anybody that said, yeah, I watched the first couple. I just couldn't hang in there. If anything, it was like, oh, God, I can't wait for this next one to come out. I can't wait these few days. So to me, it's only going to get better,
Starting point is 00:13:07 and this is a hell of the bar. It's a set. There's a lot of people, too, that they'll, like, look for something to nitpick on it. Like, it's so hard to please everybody. But at the same time, it really did. I don't think I sold really any. anything bad. I think people when they first saw the watch time, how much, how long it was,
Starting point is 00:13:26 they were a little bit worried or might as said something, but then they started it and then they see the draft and they understand, I think, why it's long. And the people you have, like, the fact that you have Groot and hyping us up and then you got guys like the Duke and then, of course, you have, like, Grant. Like, there's this whole assortment of people. shout out to Yams for holding it down for us because it was naughty what Riggs did to steal Yams and it was funny that was good for content I know you appreciated it Yams
Starting point is 00:13:59 but when we all went down it was like fuck we lost such a big portion of Bob to Sports and you came in Yombs and held it the fuck down because we really wanted of course we were going to be in the car but some sort of presence plane that our fans could root for so he held it down so yeah I mean I
Starting point is 00:14:16 I got very lucky in the sense that I have not played that. Like, I'm not a good golfer by any means. I'm probably like an 18 or 20 handicap. Like I don't take it seriously. We go, we fuck around. Like, me and you sometimes will play a little bit more like dial in and more shots. But when we play in the videos, it's not serious, you know, at all. At least in my like golf game perspective.
Starting point is 00:14:38 I haven't played that well, especially on the second day when I was with George Bryant. I haven't played that well since I was like 18. I got so lucky. I was just, I was dialed in. I, I, it was, it was, I was, I was happy that I was able to perform. The, the first day I was playing with Peter Finch and he carried me. I made a couple of puts.
Starting point is 00:14:55 And then obviously, I played with George Bryant. Those are two of the best golfers in the whole thing. So a lot of that comes down to who you're paired with. But I was happy that I could show up, make a couple of puts, you know, help out with, you did more than a couple of puts, dude. You were, you were, you were like that. I helped, I helped represent, you know, the, the brand in a good way. And that was the other thing that you mentioned, like, that was the one complaint I saw,
Starting point is 00:15:15 which obviously you can't control. And it was annoying me. People were like, oh, Bob's, because your team did have, if you look at YouTube golf, your team had the name brand guys. Like, it just did. You guys had the, you know, the Warriors, the 2016 Warriors. And when you guys got knocked out, everybody was, they were saying they were like, it's not fair.
Starting point is 00:15:32 They need to come up a way where like the name brands can't get knocked out. It's like, bro, this is how like life works. Like if you watch the PGA tour on Sunday and it's two random ass guys, you're not like, it's not fair. They didn't put Scotty Schephler in the final. Like, this is how light. This is how it works. So there was concern that the viewership might go there,
Starting point is 00:15:51 but I think once the second round started, people were just dialed in again. And I'm glad I could show up a little bit and represent. I'll be honest. What the draft part of it was so much fun. I did realize about halfway through. I was like, wow, we are very content heavy. If we go down, you know, we're losing some pretty big names.
Starting point is 00:16:12 I think Grant, Garrett, we went back to the cab. that night and I really felt on paper we had the better team. Like I felt really confident. I don't know about you guys, but I remember we were kind of talking in the car. Like I really thought we would come out and win that. Obviously, it didn't turn out that way. But then I think we and Joe were talking about like you see some of the names like
Starting point is 00:16:35 Josh Richards going last. Nobody really knew his game. That was wild. Pete might have fallen a little farther. Roger. Yeah. Chazzy was a C. He was tiered at C.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Yeah, Chas, Roger, Peter Finch, Dalky. I mean, they had guys... Yeah, they had... Oh, yeah. Yeah. ...gues played really good for the first match, I know, against Mason.
Starting point is 00:17:05 I agree with you, Bob. On paper, when I was looking at, I was like, yo, we have a step. Plus, they had George Brian. They had George Brian and Dolkey. And then they had, I mean, And then of course for Kwan to not show up for the first match. I mean, that was really, that was one of our aces in the hole that just didn't show up, you know.
Starting point is 00:17:24 That being said, I will say the Kwan thing being the first episode, I think that it couldn't happen in a better way in the sense that people were hooked. There was all this drama. There was all this dialogue outside of just the gall. So like the next match coming in, people were like hooked and wanted to see what was going to happen. If that Kwan stuff doesn't happen in the first episode, I don't know of the retention of how many people come in. Like, I think it helps. Like, as crazy as it sounds. I just, the only thing I would say about that is, no, you are right?
Starting point is 00:17:55 The Kwan situation, obviously, it's a long past. Like, over sleep, like people oversleep. I, you know, we, we filmed sometimes. And like, we filmed a couple weeks ago, Balin Isles, I overslept. I was more annoyed that people were upset at you guys for not waking him up. That was crazy. Bro, as if you're like his mom. And it's like, it'd be one thing if he had like told somebody, you know, like, hey,
Starting point is 00:18:19 and I don't know if he did or didn't, but like, you know, I came in from this flight. I'm going to, I oversleep, you know, wake me up for the thing. But I saw people were like, Bob didn't have his guys ready. It's like, bro, we're adults here. Like, just put the hand up. I overslept and move on. I think that was to your point. People were just kind of looking for things to just like nitpick and say it's like,
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Starting point is 00:19:54 a move that had no chance. Me and Wesley going into the alt-shot against George and Jazz, that never stood a chance. Like, jazz is so good. Now, granted, we need to. needed some big swing matches to hit like we were down so much we needed some of those things they had that never stood a chance so i would take that back for sure but when we lost it was such a team aspect to it and going and rooting on the other matches was so much fun that i was really
Starting point is 00:20:25 gutted when we lost like money aside just team wise not being able to keep playing it really really sucked dude being in a competitive environment like that like i know we do our videos And like the last time I was in a competitive environment like that for real was in high school. So it's like you're playing and it's like this is a real deal. Mine was fantasy camp. I was just there. I would know. But you're like when you see like when you need to make a shot or you got a teammate and
Starting point is 00:20:55 the money's obviously there and you want to advance, it's like intense. And especially in some of them in I think my first two of the matches, the other matches are over. It's winding down and all of a sudden these carts are starting to gather around you. And you get this feel like. you're in some sort of like real rider cup. Like it's, it was, it was a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:21:12 And it was cool to be in that competitive environment, like for real, like to feel those juices. I've never played competitive golf. Like that was a first for me. I know FP you have. But I have never even been in a golf turn like in a real, aside from like a pro am, I've never even been in a golf tournament.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Well, yeah, yeah, sure. But I mean, like at the end of the day, like you had, you had pressure on you to like step up for your team. Like you wanted to be the guy. who made a big shot like to say like at the end like you said yeah to go and be like we won let's go and you're checking the scoreboard on your phone so for me i i thought it was fucking awesome like playing and mac was playing lights out but every shot all of a sudden you kind of feel it wasn't even about the money at that point because we were so far removed from like the final but it was just
Starting point is 00:21:59 about like the team aspect and coming through and making the big moment for your team you know well that's another reason that's another reason the final product looks so good is because the shots really mattered. It comes through like the editing and the filming how intense it really was out there because it wasn't like a free, you know, it wasn't like a collab YouTube video where you're just messing around. It was like the real deal. Yeah, it felt more like a, it felt more like high school and college golf and maybe like a little bit member guestish because it's not individual. So it doesn't have like a true like golf tournament vibe to it because you're not like on an island and you're worried about what's going on or
Starting point is 00:22:38 round on different holes. But it's like, it's more than just like winning your flight and getting some pro shot credit and, you know, hitting the bar afterwards. Like there's a real like feel to it. You know, I think the other thing too is like what's not happening real time that you know. It's like you know that everything that you're doing is going to come out later. And like I think that that almost like it's not even sometimes the pressure to play in that moment it's the like like oh shit like in a few months somebody's going to see me you know i've got this
Starting point is 00:23:13 four footer that means the world and you know it's i'm gonna get i'm gonna get like the ooze and oz if i miss it now and i'm gonna get them again in a few months by the whole world so it's like it's like this little level of pressure that like has like two stages to it like i'm sure luke felt horrendous in the moment had to get through that day but in the back of his mind you notice these videos are coming out later too. I don't think he felt horrendous in the moment if I'm being honest. Yeah. I don't know. It's like it's like being found guilty and then you've got like a month till you get sentenced. That makes sense. You know what I mean? Like it's like you've got these two things that that are waiting on you and I don't know. I mean, I don't think about that stuff much like when we're
Starting point is 00:23:57 making videos as far as like if I hit like a shank or like I miss like a potter. Like I don't really care that it's going to come out later. But like there's something about this. invitational that was just like, I don't know. This is like the time to play your golf. And if you can't do it now, it's like this is the type of player you are. I think with that said, I wonder for like Melosi and Page. And I talked to them both a little bit. But like I do wonder if they saw the thing that happened with Kwan and the steam that
Starting point is 00:24:27 took like it went crazy. Like we knew it was going to be big. Like nobody denied, like everybody knew it was going to be big. But then you see the Kwan thing. the golf world by storm like everybody posing about it and then if they're watching and they're like oh my god you know what the craziest thing is and i guess we've talked about a little and you can may you might disagree like i still again like if you really want to get into the weeds of it i have not seen like proof that the slope was on so like i don't even it it's the craziest footage like
Starting point is 00:24:59 if this was the NFL i don't think they'd be able to like overturn it inconclusive like i'm could yeah he mentioned, yeah, like there just isn't. He mentioned, the thumb thing though, when he slides, like people say, but you don't see it. You know, and then people were showing the range and this, show, and that at the end of the day, again, I know this was for money and I don't, like, people are upset about it, whether it's a rules and fracture, they think it is, or they just want to be angry. But they're just characters in the show, in the, in the, like, the reality show that happened. And it ended up providing entertainment for the people who were watching. It wasn't planned by any means. It just happened. And it's like, I don't think people.
Starting point is 00:25:35 People need to overreact in the way that they are in a way. I understand the rules and from the golf side, but it's, you know, I don't know. It's an interesting thing to think about and to see the reaction. That's all I'm to say. I don't know. I mean, I disagree. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:54 On one part. I mean, listen, there's people like Beef who, you know, obviously, beep was with his passing, it was people were rooting for that team even more. But like, if you just look at him and like what he was. wanting to do with that money. Like that is life-changing money for someone like that. So for someone, I'm not, again, I'm not saying he cheated or not, but for someone to even consider cheating in that situation,
Starting point is 00:26:17 you're putting people's futures at stake for your own will and your own benefit. It's very selfish. No, no, no. That is a bad thing. Maybe I said her, I meant in terms of they're not being like full conclusive proof to me that he cheated. one and two when they when they asked page on the green and she said she said i didn't know you couldn't do that if you take her word for that then she didn't know she couldn't do that it's not like you
Starting point is 00:26:44 cannot then say that she maliciously moved things on maybe you can believe she did or didn't but that's all i'm saying like okay it's done at that point he asked him on god yeah and like at that point you're right there's nothing else they could do to prove it so he asked him he said it's it and then it said they kept playing right like he had a lot That was wild to me. This I didn't. Obviously, we were there. We knew what was coming out.
Starting point is 00:27:09 What I did not know, and I was watching it unfold, like on Instagram and everything and on the internet, leading up to it before the last episode, there were videos of, like, Malosi cheating or being suspected of cheating outside. Like, you had the rangefinder that was being discussed. Micah was going at him about that. So that was building up and some other things. So that definitely didn't help its cause. any means. Well, again, they, they filmed what happened. It's like, of course. If somebody was running around naked on the, on the course and doing cartwheels, they would have put that in the video.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Oh, for sure. I'm not talking from the production. No, I'm not even saying to your side. I'm just saying like this, like, it was just what happened happened and it was shown. And I don't, I still don't think you can conclusively say one way or another what happened. I think it's good for conversation. I think it's a shame for them. And also like, they're still in the YouTube golf space. Like I don't know who is somebody I saw said it where like if you go on a reality show and then like you're villainized, you just kind of go back to your regular job or whatever. But this is their regular job and it's their it's their life. So I just don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:14 I don't know. It's a it's a interesting thing. And I think it's good for, you know, Bobby was like way in with Dave on Melosie and there. It would be like me going against Bob and saying like, you know, and so it's, you know, there's a lot of different elements to it. And you think about it's like those guys are in a, in a group. together. So like, yeah, it's crazy. It did create like a whole other level of drama that people
Starting point is 00:28:41 just eat up, unfortunately, you know? Stube, I want to know what you, what happened with you because you're like in the finale when Peter Finch walks up to you and basically says what he saw. So I just wanted to know, like, or you can tell the world who's wondering what that, you know, just like what happened. Stub was like, yeah. He was even nuts. He was even nuts. I'm just. hanging and like i'm being completely honest with you i didn't want any parts of being brought into that i was riding around my car solo getting ahead a little bit talking to my cart cam i was not interested in making any decisions or being involved in any controversy so i think my first instinct was more like why the hell did you just come up to me and tell me that like i'm minding my own business here and then
Starting point is 00:29:29 he told me what it was and like in golf like i could see her side of it and like to the point of like what i saw she clearly like pushed grass down in front of the ball now the what her ball where her ball is sitting and where it's resting i don't think that that was affected at all so i could see how she'd be like i'm not missing my lie my ball didn't move the grass that's on my ball didn't move but it's essentially the same thing as like if you have a bush in front of you right your ball's behind the bush and you go in and you just go in the bush and you you're like clear. I've done that been many times.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Sure. And then the other people. Yeah. And then like you're not for a million dollars. Sure. Or like there's a branch of your ball and you like tuck the branch behind you. Like you're not allowed to affect like you can move dead loose things that aren't connected.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Anything that's connected, you can't like affect to help yourself. And I think that that I don't know. I mean, I'll take her word for it that she didn't know that that. I don't think she was trying anything. Mostly because like there's cameras. everywhere. So for you to like consciously go and make like a decision like that that you know is incorrect, like chances are it's going to be caught on film. So like I believe her that she didn't think she did anything incorrectly. And then the other side of it was that they lost
Starting point is 00:30:47 the hole anyway. So that's what I think I was saying to Pete was like, yeah, that's not cool. But like let's see how this plays out before we just like start this firestorm. Right. But it only, yeah. Which he ended up going and telling Brad anyway. And I could see going maybe to go and tell Brad to be like, yo, I saw this. It doesn't matter because they lost the hole. But like if I'm you guys, just keep an eye out on it. It was, if he came to me, I'm not sure I would go say something.
Starting point is 00:31:16 I would have it in my head for the rest of the match to like watch that. But it's also we're making an entertaining video. But it wasn't. Maybe that part of me would go say something. So he said something to Brad. and then Brad gets in his cart and Brad says it to Francis. And Brad was like, let's just let it go. And Francis was the one who was like, oh, we need to say something, which I don't know if
Starting point is 00:31:37 that was a strategic thing or that was just like, we need to get this, you know, like, rattle them a little. I don't know why he did that. I totally understand. I was in the same position on the, on the molese stuff. I was on the green and I heard Bobby and Micah who were right with me talking about the slope with Mo and how they believed that he had it on. And for me, at that point, it's like we're running this event with Barstool.
Starting point is 00:32:02 And I'm thinking of myself like, okay, here's the situation. If no one says anything and then they go on to win and then there is allegations that someone cheated that never came out that gets swept under the rug until the video is released. And then there is video evidence and it's not brought out. It's not a good look. So like I went to Dave and I was like, I'm going to say something. And if you see in the thing, I said, listen, no names. I'm not going to say who it is, but you should do a range finder check just to say like people are talking because at that point, then Dave, you know, he gets all perked up and he gets excited about it.
Starting point is 00:32:38 But it needed to be said because you hear people murmuring. It's like at school when you hear people saying stuff and you don't bring it to light. It could create its own narrative and it could have been detrimental to not just what was happening or to who won, but to the whole tournament of itself. Yeah, I don't think there's any doubt. I mean, the page thing is one shot on one hole, right, that has a very direct outcome, which was not in their favor. So to me, that's, like, in a vacuum. And, like, that can easily be passed over in a normal day-to-day session where there's no cameras going.
Starting point is 00:33:10 I don't disagree with Francis. You could go either way. You could sit there and keep it to yourself. Or you could say, no, no, no, no, let's play ball here. I'm going to go say something. I think probably for the video, it was better that went that way. Totally. You know, it's awkward.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Now, the Melosi thing is potentially a start to finish every shot affecting situation that, you know, they could have easily won. Like, it came to the 18th hole. And like you said, Joe, like this could have affected it. So, like, to just, like, not touch it or to, like, you know, every hole they won up until then could have been because of that. There were some talks in, like, the episode before, right? Or, like, some sketchy things about, like, his range finder and cliffhank. And like cliffhangers is definitely a golf course that has a significant elevation change where, you know, that is a huge advantage. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:05 I'm also that I also, we could have done slopes the whole time. This had been a non-issue. I don't know why I fought for it on the first. He kind of started this whole thing. You're kind of a hard-o, a hard-o question here, Dave. It was just like it, I didn't care what the answer was. If he was like, no, let's do slopes who gives a shit. It'll speed up play.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Great. Like, I just think either if we were all going to do, if someone's out there thinking they can do slopes and there's someone out there that is not. You know what I mean? Like whatever his decision was was fine. And he's like, he didn't know. He's like, so what's normal? I was like, well, normally you don't use it in tournament plays. Like don't use it.
Starting point is 00:34:41 And then a text went out, like a mass text. Did everyone saw? Everyone read it. forgot about that. Yeah. The Francis? Yeah. Lisa sent it out to everybody.
Starting point is 00:34:51 The Francis. this situation. Now that I think about it, I thought about it before, but I think the, like, that is the exact thing. It was like the YouTube golf world and the bar stool world. And in the bar stool world, when something like that happens, you bring it up and you, you know, you call somebody out, you make it happen. And Dawkey was like, was like, let's just whatever. And France, like, no, we got to bring this up because that's how they, you know, that's how their operation runs. And again, I don't want to say why he did it. I don't know if he did it because of barstle or, like, their mindset or because he thought it would rattle them or
Starting point is 00:35:20 he just thought I need to be brought up. But that is exactly what we were trying to do. Like, that is the combination of everything that created this whole thing. Dude, when he goes, Melosi, like, announced that he's going to, like, make a statement on his YouTube. And by the way, really like Melosu, really nice guy. I will tell you this. I look forward. Like, that's like a state of the union.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Like, I can't wait to see his video to see what he says because maybe he comes on there and says, it was on. I fucked up. I'm sorry. Like, maybe he does. Yeah. That would be honorable. The thing is, if you're him, if you're him and you, you did it, then coming out with that video would be the right thing. But if you're him and you, and you know you didn't do it, like, what's he supposed to say he did it when he knows? No. Oh, no. Right. But then the court of
Starting point is 00:36:03 public opinion is just, it's up to them. And it's just like, you know, it's why with the page thing, with a page thing, I don't think she was maliciously doing it to see her reaction and the fact that for five holes after she was so distraught. I really believe that she, did had no intention of cheating whatsoever because for someone to get that upset to be questioned about it it shows like to some level to degree i would think integrity that like she's upset that she's being thought of as a cheater and she would never put herself in that position so i i don't know it's interesting and the the craziest thing out of all of this is while this is going on for like two or three holes like they're golfing and people are forgetting about the golf and frankie is trying to
Starting point is 00:36:49 gather his team by the threads that they're hanging by. And somehow they didn't go down four holes. It was pretty wild that they were absolutely able to stick into the fucking race. Yeah, they did. It became like an afterthought, even being there at the time, everybody was in the carts talking about it. Like, it just became a whole other thing. But also you have like the tense golf, but some of the clips that have come from it.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Like, FPA, I watched you and Trent in the cart, that clip, 50 times like when trended the woo it was you had still that YouTube dynamic like with the car cams that were so fun another clip that I thought was hilarious was um and like I don't think page was really trying to take a shot at him from Francis like he's like I'm not here to fuck bitches
Starting point is 00:37:39 and page is like nod in that you're not what about Daltoos saying to Micah this is a side gig I play video games and I'm here There was some good. And Fasoli running through the fucking fence. Dude, the Fasoli, Clayton, is what happened.
Starting point is 00:37:57 That is right in my wheelhouse. I didn't know. I didn't know either because in the finale, in the finale, we were all watching, or the par three cores, we were watching. And Carney was filming.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Carney was from, he's the Brian Brose videographer. And he's, listen, he's the best, like, videographer when it comes like the camera. He was amazing. So we gave him the lead on all
Starting point is 00:38:19 that. So Dave is looking at him in the finale. And Dave, like, sniffed it out. And he's like, who is this guy? He's like, he's definitely not one of our guys. He's like, who is this guy? And he's just mocking his own guys. And then so I was like, oh, that's Carney. He's whatever. He's like, yeah, our guys are, you know, driving through fences while this guy's doing that. And at the time, I had no fucking clue. I was like driving through fences. What are you talking about? And then I saw the video. I was like, oh, my God. That's the funny shit of all time. Well, the bar stool guys were saying, like, Big Cat tweeted like, I've been waiting for this day, like the entire time.
Starting point is 00:38:49 having no idea what was coming. And, oh, God, that's right up my alley. I totally forgot about Trent and I's cart, to be honest. It's so funny. All these months go by, we're dumb idiots. Like, this is what we do all the time in golf carts. We say stupid shit. So, like, it's not like I was like, damn, I can't wait for this video to come out.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Just Trent and I have some bars. I had no idea. All I knew was I wasn't playing golf anymore. So, like, I was like, I'm barely going to show up in these videos. And then, like, these clips start popping up. and you're TikTok and I'm like, God, we are so fat. It was so fun. And then us eating the ice cream like while this is going on.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Bring your spoon. Yeah. I will say on one other note, like we talked about like a bunch of us getting, you know, eliminated really like content heavy people. It was cool to see that it opened up the doors for people like Chaz and some of these other people who really have become like unsung heroes of this tournament and like who people really didn't know about beforehand and now are like oh my god this guy is fucking incredible or like seeing duke and the craziness that this guy had like it really did open the door for a lot
Starting point is 00:39:58 of other people to have a moment you know which was cool i think that that's what the tournament should be all about and that's why the format that we came up with you know having different people from different skill levels paired in a three-sum it allowed a lot of different people to showcase what they can bring to the table. and be a big-time player come up with a moment. Like, I think that match against Bobby and Frankie, I think Chaz missed, didn't miss a pot. He made everything.
Starting point is 00:40:27 It was fucking amazing to watch. Yeah, I think if you asked Chazzy, I mean, at least if I were him, and you gave me the option of, hey, I could just give you $330,000 cash, or you could have the showing that he had at the Internet invitation. Like, it's now gives them the platform where that could change Chazzy's career. I saw him on Golf Digest.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Like he can think about dog that now dog he was already on good good. People knew him. His stock is through the roof. Like what it can do for you is cool. So I know there's going to be many more to come. We actually have a call with the bar so guys in a couple weeks to discuss the next one. How many people are in the next one? But really, really cool stuff.
Starting point is 00:41:08 I know we wanted to get on kind of recap it a bit. So thank you to everybody that did tune in. Keep your eyes peeled for the next one. Now we go back to regular Bobda Sports videos. The Cotsie Hater series is going to be coming out soon. So now we're getting back into those. That has been another edition, the Bobda Sports Podcast. And as always, we will see you next week.

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