Bob Does Sports Podcast - Rick Shiels on Partying With Bob Does Sports, The Magic Of The Old Course And The Guinness Challenge

Episode Date: September 6, 2023

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When you first saw the Swilken Bridge, I was like, no, I would have been there when you do that for the first time. Are we what you expected? Yeah, for the most part? Yeah, well, not even for the most part. 100% of the part. But it just pushes that bar up a little bit more for all of golf YouTube. Let's just, let's see if we just raise it a little bit more. That's a good point.

And it just continues to get better. I think we all maybe wanted to show each other after Sunday night that we were, you know, mature adults too. If it had ramped up at all in any way if you had performed, I don't know how it could have, but if it did, we'd be zombies. Well, fellas, without, we going? Without further ado, welcome back Bob to Sports podcast.

Rick, we've said it. I mean, that will go down. This is our last day here in Scotland. The hosting job that you did to us. I keep saying it to you that I hope we never have to host you because we wouldn't hold the candle in the wind to you. What did you think? I mean, we've talked about how much we've

enjoyed it. I'm sure it was fun for you to watch just us. What are your thoughts on this trip? It's gone better than planned. Yeah. It's almost how I dreamt it to have gone, to be honest with you. So I had the line up in my head. Obviously, we started speaking a few months ago about doing this, and I was really excited.

We were hinting at Ireland for a while. We then settled on Scotland. It was like, well, if we're going to go Scotland, there's one place we go. We go to St. Andrews. We go to the home of golf. So it was about, right, we need to get the right golf courses, is booked in.

And obviously you need the old course. That was number one priority. And fortunate for me, I've got some nice connections here. So we managed to hook up the old course, got that in nice and early. And it was just building the itinerary around that then. And the line up Dunbarney on Monday,

the Barney was great. I thought it was a nice welcome to Scotland type golf course. 100%. Crayal then on the, sorry, the old course on Tuesday. Again, just seeing you guys stepping off on that first two. It's just like,

It's just a magical place. Special. Crayal on Wednesday, King's Barns on Thursday. And then actually today, me and Perez managed to actually get around the castle course, which was a real surprise to me. That was the only one course I've not played while being up here. Oh, that was your first time? First time as well.

What do you think? Spectacular. Yeah, it really was. The piece of property, even just walking to the clubhouse having breakfast, the clubhouse is unbelievable overlooking the water. And it's just right away. You're just all along the coast. You're up high.

I think you're up, it feels like you're up a bit higher than we maybe were, or maybe we were same height but closer to town. Yeah. So just the seeing the town of St. Injames of the castle, like it was just, it was really,

really good. Yeah. And there's a great golf course too. I think. And the other thing, sorry, the one thing you can't ever bank on it. It doesn't matter what month we would have ever booked this, whether it was anywhere between April and September.

We have had an unbelievable week of, weather. Yeah, it was special. Unbelievable. Like, really have. We had that one shower of rain when we got out the cars at Dunbarney. And I must admit, the forecast never looked great this week. No.

Yeah, no, it didn't. And we got to, we stopped. Oh, yeah, Dunbarney. We got out of the car at Dunbarney. I was thinking to myself, oh, my God. Yeah. Please don't. Let's the games begin.

To us. Please don't, because it makes filming harder. It makes everything harder, doesn't it really, played in the rain. And even today, like me and Perez have been up at the castle course. It's been glorious sunshine all day. It's only when we drove into town, back into town, which is only 10 minutes away. We were like, why is it wet everywhere?

And it had been raining here. Yeah. No, this didn't even hint it rain where we were. Sunshine, blue skies, no wind. It's perfect. I think the way we, the way starting the trip between the first night out that we had and then we started off for your channel doing a scramble, It's set the tone and it set the vibe so well to where one of my favorite parts of the whole trip was,

obviously we know you, we've spoken to you and the channel and whatnot. The team that we have behind you that we don't necessarily see when you go onto your channel, it is you guys are so our speed and being able to film with the channel that we really are similar, like obviously different upbringing, backgrounds, all of that country and whatnot. But to see how well everybody got along and, set the tone to where the vibes are so high i think so i think you know to some degree somewhat of similar age obviously we found out yesterday i mean joey's six days apart in age that's crazy i've heard that that's incredible quite literally six days wow

jays older than rick um and in a way you know i feel like the ethos that i've certainly set with my team you know we we want to we're here for a job we're here for work we're here to create content that's number one and the guy's doing unbelievable job at that. But I'm also not naive to thinking we're somewhere very special, whether it's, whether if we go to a way for America for a week, whether we come up here to Scotland, you've got to have that release time. You've got to let your hair down.

You've got to have a few drinks. You've got to, you know, enjoy that side of things. I've always allowed them to do that as much as possible. And they're all great lads. You know, I've worked, you know, we're up to 12 members of staff now. And touch wood, nobody's actually left the team as of, yeah. I feel like we've managed to build a culture where, you know, we all enjoy what we do and managing to create content. Truth be told, though, those guys, certainly Ed, and I'm sure we'll come on to Ed.

I think you spoke about him on the podcast. Ed was so excited about filming this week with you guys. I mean, he has been a super fan for a while. And he's funny, Ed, because he'll get on with anybody. And he, I think you've made his week, to me honestly. I think you've made his life. I think you've made his life. this week.

You know, he's a great character. He's a good lad. But then also the rest of the crew are great. You know, Sam and Matt. We've had Harry and Charlie up here. You might not have seen as much. Obviously, Guy came up for a few days as well. We've had quite a big team up here this week, which is quite rare for us.

We don't normally travel with that many people, but we had a couple of new starter starting. So we wanted to bring them up to Scotland and see how we operate and how we work. So it's been a fun ride. To Bob's point, I think. think, you know, before we even golfed, we set the tone the first night. Rick took us out for a great dinner. I don't know what the name of the restaurant was. A swilken loft. Yeah, right on, right on St. Andrews. And we had an awesome dinner overlooking 17 and 18. And then it was very, I said,

refined yesterday. They started laughing because it was kind of like a really nice, quiet dinner with wine and stuff. And then we, we kind of just let loose and had a lot of fun after that, went to a pub and just kind of things you know drinks started flying we had a lot of fun and so i think before we even filmed we had that common ground yeah when we hit the first couple t shots um on at dumb barney it was like right out of the gate i felt like there was a good connection it was a scramble it was fun and i don't think i don't think it's it's probably been one of the more seamless collabs that we've done yeah i agree to us as well like it was funny i was saying to the lads like we didn't have to come up sunday it wasn't imperative for us we

We could have quite easily met you Monday. But I said to lads, no, they're in St. Andrews. Like, I was actually gutted. We weren't here even earlier. Like, you got here near at lunchtime. Yeah. And we had obviously Sunday. We were family and the Saturday.

We were like, let's go up a bit later. And I was like, I wish we were there now. Like, I want to see the guy. Like when you first saw the Swilken Bridge, I was like, no. I would have been there when you do that for the first time. But, you know, you can't. I joked about a message you're right. When you get there, you're not allowed to do anything now.

You're like to sit in the car. Close your eyes. Close your eyes. Don't do anything. But obviously that's not quite feasible in St. Andrews. So I think it was important for us to come up on that Sunday night and have a few beers and, you know, be able to get to know each other.

Obviously, we'd met briefly with Perez in Orlando in January. But, you know, and you just know when you're going to get on with people. Yeah. And I think you guys already, your presence and characters on video,

you can tell you're going to get on with them, you know, straight away. Yeah. And we're pretty happy, go lucky guys. We get on with most people. And, you know, we like what you guys do. So we're already fans of the channel.

We talk about you lots in our business about, oh, what above the sports? Did you watch that video? Have you seen this? If you've seen that, you know, as I've said to you last time, you know, I'm a huge YouTube fan. Oh, sorry, when I say we met, God, we all did the podcast in. We did the podcast in Jupiter.

Yeah, God, of course we all met then. And even then the vibes were good. Like, it seemed already straight away like we were going to get on. I kind of, that slipped my mind for a second. Sam and Matt were there. Sam and Matt were there. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And I think Harry was actually that trip as well. Yeah. That sounds right. But yeah, no, that was a kind of brief dropping and drop out because we couldn't actually film anything that week because we were a bit busy. Yeah. It just didn't work out.

It almost worked for the best that this was the first time that we filmed because it was such an amazing experience and all the courses that we played. Obviously, Bob and I didn't play today with you guys. But the four courses that we played, I mean, all of them were unbelievable. And the setting and the backdrop, it's special because people have messaged me and I'm sure even them,

they're like, we don't know if we'll ever be able to do that. And even if you do, you know, like you look at like how hard is. My friend just was up here in Scotland. He had to line up at St. Andrew's old course at like 4.35 in the morning

to try to get on as a single for a tea time. So the fact that it was just so seamless, Rick had everything set up. And it was just like Bob said, the hosting of it was just incredible. It was really, to me, the best golf trip I've ever been on. Oh, by a long. It's nice to hear.

Actually, it was kind of a lot of pressure, but I knew, and to some degree, I knew that once we'd locked in the accommodation, which are these great apartments, I think these are great as well. And then I knew, well, as long as we base ourselves here, we can't go far wrong. And luckily, you know, I'd like to think with the content that I filmed at many different golf courses in the past up here, You know, they understand the value of getting us on here. And to be honest, it was a very easy sell with you guys.

Like, I spoke to pretty much every one of the top people at every single golf club we've been at this week and said, listen, I'm coming up with a collaboration week. It's going to be myself. They were like, yeah, brilliant. Listen, I'm bringing some Americans. They're from a channel called Bob the Sports. And either they absolutely knew you straight away. And I was like, oh, yeah, Bob, God, this is going to be amazing.

Or, right, let me have a quick look at the channel. Oh, boy. And I'd say, I'd say, my line was. my line off and walls there are almost more of a golf comedy channel yes yeah that's right that's right i would say yeah it's still it's still golf but it's got that air of comedy um not that the golf is comedy but you you bring sometimes it is you bring the comedy within the golf so um only a couple of of course is kind of what to have a quick look and go and within a day they were like yeah this is great we're happy to do this

I think one of the best things for me, two things. A, getting you were on board for that Guinness Challenge. And, you know, we talked about that video in the last podcast. Doing that Guinness Challenge was one of the funniest things. And we all had those hats on. And the way that we just committed to that challenge to me, like as we were drinking more and more, it got funnier and funnier and like looking around. Oh, that's what we thought anyway.

Oh, right. Yeah. everything got better yeah i mean we really everyone started to swing it better i was suddenly thinking whoa bobby's turned into tiger yeah yeah yeah yeah just need nine guineas um

you know what that that thank you for bringing me on the channel for that as well because i think sometimes as i've said to you in the in this week like i've always tried to really portray this quite clean cut you know i'm a golf professional or golf coach and now youtube and i've always tried to we don't drink on my channel i don't swear on my channel it's just not what what i do but that's not me a hundred percent of the time like i do enjoy what we all enjoy as a young adult you know i enjoy

being able to go out and have a few drinks have a have a laugh my friend so to be able to almost for you guys to be able to extract that out of me and potentially show show the audiences that side of me as well which i'm i'm quite excited about i think they're going to love it yeah they're going to love you so much. It gets me quite nervous. And I think, I think, no, there's nothing to be nervous about. You were hysterical. In a sense where it's just like, I've never, I've never kind of allowed that to happen before. Yeah. You know, I think I'm, I'm hyper, hyper protective of what, you know, my channel and what I've managed to build over 11 years that I'm always like, just don't mess this up. Because I, you know, imposter syndrome definitely probably hits all of us.

it certainly hits me. And I'm thinking there's only needs one bad thing and then suddenly all the cards come tumbling down. Yeah, the days too. I'm not saying nine Guinness is on. You know, that's going to be it. But I've probably been hyper protective about protecting my image a little bit more.

What's your guy's favorite part of the week been? I mean, like the number one point. Kings Barnes just in general yesterday was to me probably the most special one. But a moment that I won't forget because he's not a very emotional guy and when he was coming down

18 on St. Andrews and there were a mix of people that were just there to watch and then fans, fans that were yelling our name from windows and walking down to watch his reaction on 18 and how hard that hit him

that was really cool for me just to even watch that with him. I mean obviously he was hitting me but he doesn't really get like that. I've never seen him like that. So that goes up there as well. But for me, Kings Barnes with yesterday, and to me, that's the nicest course I've ever played, bar none, by far. But that was cool, what you. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I didn't know what to expect.

I got a little, that, that T shot on one is probably the most nervous I've felt playing golf in a long time. Like I, I always, like, people ask me, like, how does it feel like, you know, like all these people to see you golf? And my answer is normally like, well, golf is kind of the best thing I do in my life. so like if I can't be comfortable doing it then like everything else is going to crumble and fall so it's like I feel the most comfortable over a golf ball so I'm okay but there's something about that first tee and I mean I almost missed the ball I just never get like that and then walking to it and getting it but just come in at sunset with the with the buildings the RNA there and you know walking by the the 17th and the pub there um you know I hit a great drive hit a good shot I got a nice like clap like a good like Scottish just formal perfect golf clap from the pub and then like rolling into that just into 18 it's just you know i i think i just started thinking about you know i you know i don't take a lot of time to think about how i've gotten here or what like i just started to think about everything that has happened to lead me to this moment right here at st andrews with these guys and like yeah it just

i was i was you know it took a lot of focus to not get like outwardly emotional and I had Ed in my in my face with a camera like every time I would turn away from him he would just move in I knew he was looking for that little like here to drop through under the sunglasses and then so that helped me a little focus too I wasn't going to let that happen but yeah I don't know I don't think I'll ever feel that way it's it's like you know it's like being up at the altar when you get married I imagine it'll be the same feeling that I'll have when I have a child like it's just a very different thing that I felt that I have only felt a handful of times in my life yeah I I looked over at him on the first tee box and you striped one yeah

and oh fucking and I looked over at him and you know everybody's crowded around us and you know you're just honest but like you know how special the place is just the second and I always feel like the first tea everybody's watching you yeah why that is the first tea where because it's so public and open. Yeah. You know, so many people. That's why,

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Who can see it or how can that be seen? It's a public viewed. Just like on the time. Yeah, just online. so people can see who's booked into what spots. So I've made the mistake before where we'd use that my actual name and filming quite a few people turned up. And you don't want any more nerves on that.

I couldn't have handled any more than we got. So when we were booking, I said, you've got to do this anonymously. Him telling me that because I was shit in bricks, that's every first T shot for me, but that one especially, when I turned to him and then he told me he was nervous too, then I was like, okay, I'm a wreck now because now I know I should be nervous. Part of the hole. I did. We chased kept a good caddy in for you.

We just happened to be. So weird. Which is crazy. What I would have liked, though, is the fat Perez named to be on the T-sheet at the odd course. That would have been pretty special. What about you, Joey? What's been your favorite spot?

Mine was the first day we got here. Just because playing the course was awesome. But like, I think the first day we got here, it was a gorgeous, gorgeous day. And we kind of checked in. We did everything. And the first few days that we were in Edinburgh, we were kind of getting our legs under us and adjusting to the time zone. And we know, we didn't really do much. And then we got here and we said, let's go to St. Andrews. And I've never, you know, you picture a course of that magnitude and

seeing it closed and people and public and dogs walking on it. It's just something that I couldn't fathom. And we were walking with all of our crew, like walking down one and then we came back through 17 and 18. And it was just glorious. And we were walking over the bridge and just like, just seeing like where we've come. It's just so cool. And then that leading into like meeting up with you.

And then we walked it again. And the sun was setting. We had dinner. We had an amazing first night at that pub. It was just like, you know, I grew up. And I used to watch your channel and like, you know, and now to see like, like, it's just really a testament of how cool it is kind of like what you said that like, you know, Bob and I, when we first started playing,

we were playing, you know, muni tracks and to be at like the home of golf and like we were playing it and this is a golf trip, this is our work. I think I said it to you yesterday on Kings Barnes too. It's like sometimes you just want to be like, we're very blessed to do what we do.

And to me, the fact that we could do it with my closest friends, I was with Ticket and Jet and and Bob and Perez and it was just like, damn, this is as good as it gets. This feels like a bit of a therapy. position. It was really special.

It was really special. And like all the courses we played were awesome, but that first day in particular. And I think, too, the fact that we just had such perfect weather. It was, everybody told us, it's like, that's not how it is normally. It's just, it was really, it was a moment and experience that I will never forget. What was yours, Rick? Well, it's funny, you list, I was just thinking a minute ago.

And when you guys were talking about the 18th hole at the old course and obviously I had to duck out because of, because, because. I got stomach bugged. I had to drop out on the fifth because I just was feeling awful. And a part of me, when I hear that story and I hear you guys say that, I'm like, oh, I'm gutted. But then kind of a realization has come to me and is going, you know what? I'm not. I'm not good. I'm almost being selfish in that. I'm also not because you guys, the three of you who have grown this, I didn't need to be there. I was glad to facilitate it. And I'm so tough to see you guys turn off for the first tea. But I can't wait.

as a fan and someone who's admire you were to watch that video of you three walking down the 18th hole i think for me would even be more special like i didn't need to be there for that because i can almost sense the emotion that was so good when you help make it happen without you that doesn't yeah yeah we would have obviously have given the choice we of course no i'd love to i'd love to but also i'm not when i'm thinking about it's like i'm so glad it's still it went as good as it still did you know it's like at least when i when i mean that was the longest walk i've ever i to do in my life after I left on the fifth hole. That hurt me a lot because I was in,

I was struggling a lot that day anyway. And to have to walk off, which is something I've never, ever, ever done on the video ever. And at the old course, it's like with Bob Dill Sports, I'm like, what the hell are you doing?

But I needed that day to rest and thankfully recover. And then when I heard you guys talk about the 18th, I'm like, you know, it's almost like, well, it's all right because everything still went to plan. Everything still works nicely, which was great. my highlight it's a good question

it's I don't know if I can pinpoint it to one exact spot for me it was it was the vibes that we've had all week to be honest with it's like it's that idea that I know this isn't going to be the only collaboration we do or that you know the only week

I think that's also really important because you know I love working with other channels and certainly you know when you work with other channels you want it to be fluid you want it be a friendship you want it you know you don't want it to feel like work like because it's two worlds colliding into one here this week and we don't want to you know you might go oh the numbers are great but i really didn't like working with that team well we can't have that can we right you know where

it's got to be well the numbers are killing it because hopefully the videos are going to be doing really well you know those guys were great to work with let's just let's let's what do you guys say let's roll that thing back or what let's run it back like i feel like this is now potentially a twice a year sort of event where they need to be yeah i think a home and away yeah every year would be unbelievable yeah we've not even like say we've not even scratched the surface of what we could do over here um you know even if we even even even even even even even even even even even even even we've had a lot of um different collabs too that we've had that even though we all get a lot of um different collabs too that we've had that even though we all get along once the golf is done you kind

to go your separate ways and you're just you know you're tired you just want to you go to dinner you know just with your group and you go every step of the way for this one with the way the crews gelled we did everything together i mean like everybody wanted to go to dinner together we all went for indian last night like yeah we did everything together and it makes it's so much more enjoyable and i do think that it translates on the golf course and people can see that it's genuine yeah it was also sorry No, you can go ahead. It was also really nice to see how, for example, where we helped you with audio and we helped

with a few other aspects. And then today we had a ticket helping us on the back nine of a video. Like, you can see how we work. We can see how you work. We can see what works best and share ideas. And another credit, and we booked this even before we knew what was happening, we booked to stay tonight. We could have drove home right now.

I could, don't tell my wife, but I could be home. I could be home by pretty much bedtime today and have a night at home. We're having a big night. It's going to be a good one. It's going to be a big one. And all, listen, the lads have stayed. Like, they are desperate because they could have all gone home today. I wish Guy could have been with us.

Guy, unfortunately. I know. He's on holiday. I know. He really wanted it. You really wanted that Thursday. I know. That, or that Wednesday night, he really, he hinted out of it a couple times.

And I love him. And I knew he. And I knew he wanted it. I just, we could not give it. I know. Because Thursday, well, that one night, it was just the longest day. He missed our, he should have come up on the Sunday. So, yeah.

He should have. Yeah. That's what we needed. If it was Sunday, we would have ran it back in reverse. That's what that night needed. Another, another person egg and all of us on. But we also didn't know Sunday was going to be Sunday. No, we didn't.

It was, it was bloody Sunday, man. It was. That thing got out of control. But I do wish he would have been. Because I knew he said, like, the Monday he came up. He's like, I heard you guys had a big night. Like, I feel terrible. I couldn't have been there.

And we had thought that we were going to have another night of that magnitude. And it's coming tonight now. You know what has been good, genuinely? And it's very easy to let things get out of hand this, weeks like this. I actually think credit to all of us. I know we've been a few illnesses and, and you can see, you can hear these two coughing and splutter at the moment. I'm sure we're going to probably get it next. Yeah, probably.

I don't want that. We could have gone harder, more nights. Yes. I actually think we've been very professional this week in kind of not going too crazy, having a couple of drinks, having some nice cheeky nandoes, yes, obviously. But we knew this is a big, big trip.

Yeah. But if you do look at it, though, we had that Sunday night, and then we knew when we had the Guinness challenge after the Guinness challenge, and then you go in your eat, that's it. Like it's hard to where now, there's definitely a little bit

a buzz in the air for tonight that like we know tonight. I think we all maybe wanted to show each other after Sunday night that we were you know mature adults too. Right. So we all got after and it was like that's not the norm guys. We don't normally do that. You know everyone's looking at each other.

No, no, no, we're just going to have dinner and go to bed. That's that's not how we were. We kept saying like this is day one. Yeah, I know. We kept saying that. I look at it stayed at day one. Yeah, if that, if it had ramped up at all in any way as you could I don't know how it could have, but if it did, we'd be, we'd be zombies. Are we what, what you expected?

Yeah. And for the most part. Yeah. Well, not even for the most part. 100% of the part. You know, and I genuinely believe on YouTube, I'm, for example, I would say for me, personally, and I've seen it with other characters and other content creators. I think typically you're a bigger version of yourself on YouTube, because you kind of have

to be. You have to have that little bit more energy. You have to have that little bit more. more charisma. Yeah, it's just, it's you, but just maybe up a notch, potentially. Maybe not Perez. Maybe Perez stays at the same level. But you're up a notch.

For me, like, I knew you guys were going to be exactly where you were going to be at because I watch your videos. I understand what you do. I understand how you behave with each other. And on video, you're maybe that little bit notch higher than you are in normal day-to-day life, which is exactly how I feel like I am. you know. Yeah.

I have worked with content creators before who were different people. Oh, yeah. Like, actually feel that I'm like off the course, off video. You're like, is that even the, that's not the same person. Yeah.

Yeah. You know, and I don't know how they can continue to live like that way. It's almost like they're playing two characters. Yeah. And I, like I said, I definitely know if when I go home and I'm a normal Rick at home with my family,

I'm not Rick who I am on videos because you just can't be. You can't operate at that level. As you guys can't be surely, like, you're not buddy Bob every minute of every day. Because you just can't be, can you? You know, look, Bresn's nodding. Or is it? I mean, look, the guy spends four hours a day being Cameo Bob, the same Bob. That's true.

I mean, there's only a handful of things where he's, yeah. Yeah, it's four down. But like you say, knowing how you work and how you operate, I was intrigued to see how you made content. definitely. And it's exactly how expected. It's not overproduced. It's not produced.

It's not produced as in it's like it's very just let's run. Yeah. It's just let's go. Well, I feel like maybe we're just a little bit, certainly on the intros, I'm a little bit more meticulous and making sure, right, let's make sure everyone's in the right place.

I make sure the intros are just a little bit more meticulous. But then we just run as nut. Right. It's just normal after that. But you guys are just straight into it. Sometimes I'm like, oh, we're recording? Like,

off now okay let's go you know um but it but it's works great there's not been one time where we've been slow and play out on the golf course you know considering playing on busy golf courses yeah yeah busy busy golf courses i mean we've been fortunate on a couple of them to go out last tea time yeah that makes a huge difference but we've flown around most places yeah um and you operate you operate you operate like you again ticket and the jet have been brilliant behind the camera what they do and how they operate um it's been great here in there and conversations with like say Sam my production manager guy that stuff and Matt and Ed and how you know you started to talk about different ideas and how do you do your traces how this how I do my

tracers how this how do you do the podcast and you were talking about chatting with Matt um you know if the jet could do this podcast you were going to chat with Matt about podcast and this like the other weren't you yeah yeah it's still going over oh great about an hour yeah um and it's just interesting to see how people operate and how you know because you guys wouldn't know how we operate you don't We don't, you know, how you operate. And what's interesting, I think the content that comes out of it will still look like our content. Yeah. Our content will still like our content.

Your content will still like your content. It's just that you're in mine and I'm in yours and it kind of works. I mean, I think that's, you know, I don't, I don't know if that's everything. Like if you're going to break down a percentage of like content in a video versus production level, like I don't know how that should split or how it does split. I mean, I think at the end of the day, you should. still have to be who you are and once you create an audience you know I don't know how much real massive benefit or we would see in views or anything if our production value went up all other things equal if that makes sense like I think the content and who you are and the videos that

you make correct is is the foundation and it's the first floor and it's half the second floor yeah right and then that that capping off the roof of it might be you know the production value but you know that's all we've started to toy into recently is the production yeah you know and when i when i when i meant over production i'm almost more like that that that first kind of positioning's making sure everyone's in the right sure me i'm like first on scene right who's in what position i mean to be to be fair by the end of the week i was a little bit more relaxing right it's just roll right yeah yeah yeah so i probably moving into your kind of style a little bit more as well but it's only for us the last maybe six seven months we've really tried to up

production and editing and extra cameras and putting a bit more time into the drone footage and you know we've hired some FPV drone for some content you saw a little sneak preview of that yesterday i don't think it always transcends into more views but it just pushes that bar up a little bit more you know for all of golf youtube let's just let's see if we just raise it a little bit more that's a good point yeah and everyone else raises it up a little bit and and it just continues continues to get That's a really good point just for the for the space that we're in you know you're not necessarily just doing it for yourself it's it's you know the you know the leader right goes out and does something everyone else is going to see oh he started doing this like we

got a everyone's got to sort of fall in line fall in suit so yeah that's a that's a good point I hadn't thought about it that way but yeah I think the more people that are in the space it's just it's sort of like building a sort of just building an audience to the space and not necessarily to the channel. Like you want your channel to do well, but it's not, we're in a cool thing where it's not like watch our show, don't watch theirs. You know what I mean? There's enough.

The more time that people spend on YouTube watching everyone is the more time they're going to spend watching you, right? Instead of when they turn their TV on, they go to YouTube. They don't go to cable. And that helps all of us. So if you're the only show in town, they're only going to, you're only going to. You're only going to give them what you can give them and they can't stick around. It's not going to recommend your video next.

Like there's all these things. If you can keep people for all two hours that they have in front of a TV watching YouTube golf, everybody wins. I think on that as well, like the best content wins. Yeah. Really, at the end of the day, if you make killer content, it wins. Content is king every single day. It doesn't always have to be a production. But if you can go content king and production king, you know, you'd like to think that's kind of where.

it's aimed at. That's what I, oh, sorry, Joe. That's what I love about with, with YouTube is, I feel like YouTube is so well run and it's designed so well to where the best content will, they'll reward the best content, the best production to where like, I trust it and you know that you're going to get the best out of it. There's really not a lot of flukes out there. Yeah, yeah, there might be some video that does like really well for one, but then if you look at a channel, then like their other stuff isn't good. It doesn't always do good. Like, it really does reward. the best production, the best content. So yeah, that's what I love with YouTube.

It was interesting, Rick told us the other day, you're like, you know, when I started, what we were doing was not really that great. Oh, yeah. It's just very, so for you being in the game for, you know, as long as you've been 11 years or so, it's very, it's cool and it's very educational for someone like us who's a newer channel.

Because we often talk about like, how long is this going to be sustainable for? Like how long are we going to do this two years, three years, four years, and you've done this now for over a decade. And to see you've had to progress and change and all these new things that have come in like you said before, we didn't have shot traces. You didn't have this. You didn't have that. Thumbails and titles and everything has changed. It's really cool to see the adaptation and the adjustment in order to continue to be at the top level still after all this time.

and for younger creators like us who are kind of newer to the game, it's inspiring and it makes us want to continue to evolve and to develop and to see how long we can do this. Because Bob said the other day, to his credit, I don't think there's, you know, we might have other opportunities moving forward, but like what we're doing right now is so enjoyable and so fun. And it's just like to me the best job in the world.

Like I don't even know if I necessarily want to do something different moving forward. Like if we could sustain this, moving forward for the next five, 10 years, I think that would be awesome for all of us. So to see you talk about it, I think for a younger creator like myself, Bob and FP, you know, especially me and FP, we're really new to this game. It's really cool and we can soak stuff in like that and it's just something that we're very grateful for. You know, I mean, we, thank you.

Appreciate that. I mean, there is longevity without question. So we have currently got a 10 year vision of what the next 10 years looks like. Like we've set our as a business, our 10 year vision out and a five year plan and a three year action to make sure to say, right, what does this? What, how can we get to this 10 year vision? I probably wouldn't want to say it on the podcast. I'm more than happy to chat to you about it in this like, it's not going anywhere. Like this is, this is going to happen for a long time.

And you've got to be clever in the way you keep evolving. You can't just rest on your morals because it doesn't work like that. You can't keep making the same content. and expect it to work all the time. You've got to keep evolving. You've got to innovate or you die. I've seen that so often with the YouTube channels that they just continue making the same content.

But there's no innovation. And people go, I've kind of a bit bored of that now. So it's not as much about saying like, how long can we do it for? It's like as long as you make content that keeps evolving that it engages the audience, for the next 10 years, you need for 10 years.

There's nothing stopping you doing that. You see what I mean. But what won't work is making the same content today as it will in 10 years. Because I was like, I can't watch 10 years of that stuff. Do you get what I mean? Like that's the big difference really. Well, Ticket, you can say too. I mean, we just put a video out this week, which was postponed for about almost, what,

eight, nine months. And reading through the comments, like, people said, you know, this is like your old style of how you guys made videos and stuff. And I'm like, old style, we've only been around for like a year and a half. Yeah. But that kind of shows that, like, without even realizing we have kind of evolved since, you know, the initial Bob does sports started. And like, Ticket, you were editing the video the other day.

And like, it's got to be a little bit evident that like a lot of the things, even like your camera work and stuff, it's all gotten better, I think. Yeah, I got trashed. I got smoked. I got crushed. Yeah. But the whole point of that video was he's speaking. It was.

And back in the day, Rick, we used to, if you haven't seen it, we used to, we used to film Bob picking up bagels. Then he would pick up Joe and all that. Yeah. And then we would jump into the golf. And we hadn't done that in such a long time. So I think people really appreciated sort of the vintageness of it, the throwback to it. Yeah. But, and we played in a hurricane, too.

And everyone forgave the golf, but they didn't forget, forgive the camera work. So. Bless is hard. You just couldn't zoom yet. He just could not zoom yet. I could, but it was Gail. It was a four club win. That's got to be a 20% miss on the Zoom. Yeah.

You got right. That's exactly right. For me, I must admit, I was one of the first, first, first videos I proper watched all the way through, which the Max Homer one. Yeah. And I must admit, you starting in the apartment and you woke up Perez and everything else, that, I must admit, as a fan, that was gold. Yeah.

And that was, nobody else was doing that. I can't do that. I'm not doing that. because it's just not my style of content. You know, other creators aren't doing that because it's not their style of content. I feel like you guys,

you did have that really laced on nicely. I think you could still do a blend of two. I still think you could do the, how you intro the start on the first T, etc. to get people in because you need that engagement. And then just to quit like 10 hours earlier and then go into the behind the scenes a little bit more.

People love the behind the scenes because... I love, I used to love that, seriously. We had someone with... us in Canada filming some of the stuff and we realized how funny like just looking back at some of the footage that we got some of the stuff that happens because it's it's honestly you'd think it would be scripted like the first day we arrived in Canada Perez forgot his luggage at the airport so we had a van a big van that we rented everything went great until it didn't but the the lady like came to where someone would pick you up from the

airport and she just hopped out here's the keys here's the van and I'm going to Uber from here and like here's your van. So in the shuffle of getting the van, taking care of the app and all this stuff, getting all the bags in, the clubs and all that stuff, people in, my suitcase is just sitting there on the side of the curb with everyone else and we leave. And we get there and we're unpacking. I don't have a much need for the suitcase yet. So I haven't thought about it.

So probably half hour goes by and it takes 20 minutes to get there. a half hour goes by and I realize that I don't have my suitcase and it's just sitting or it was just sitting at the side of the road at the airport and I'm like oh my god like I have everything in my life in that suitcase so we quickly you know and we got the guy that's filming so he's filming this whole thing of me realizing it us hopping in the vans running back to the airport you talking like trying to find this suitcase I mean thank God it is what it is because first hour of us being there and we had like gold And it was just like, because of just like, this is just us on a regular basis when we're all together.

We have even driving to the course. We'll be howling, laughing or stuff. And like people love that essence of our channel. So, you know, we would like to get more involved with the behind the scene stuff because I think it's, it's really good. Yeah, I think it is. I think it's a clever way of doing it because the algorithm, I don't think, for example, would like it if he started just a bit straight into behind scenes. Yeah. But I think it would like it if you caught their attention.

attention and show what's coming up in the video and then like a rewind to like earlier that day. And then you could really start to show those kind of points. I think that would work great. I want to just back to what we were saying before because I wanted to ask you, do you feel any pressure to like, not pressure? Because I think about it all the time and like what Joe was saying. Like people always ask us like what's next. Like what do you guys what's next? And I used to always like kind of feel dumb not having an answer for that.

But the more that I think about it's like what is better than doing this? Like what could I possibly do? What could any of us possibly go do differently or on the side? That's going to be better than what we're doing now. You've been doing it for longer than us. Are you totally at ease with the fact that this is what you want to do and you love this? Because I'm sure you have other opportunities coming your way. Yeah.

For many, many years, you know, when I was starting doing YouTube and, you know, people would ask me, what do I do for a job? And at the time, I was still coaching. Granted, I'd say I'm a golf coach. Okay. That was quite clear. I'm a golf coach, a party.

It would be quite an easy answer. Yeah. And so what you do? So you'd be able to chat for 10 minutes about being a golf coach. And then kind of as time progressed and I felt a little bit more confident, it'd be like as I started doing less coaching and more YouTube. And it was like, oh, yeah, I do a bit of golf coach. I'm also, I also make YouTube videos.

That would open a huge kind of word. Yes. Six, seven years ago, it was like, you got a real funny look. Could you, YouTube? Like, you'd make YouTube. And at the time, I'm not a YouTuber. Right. Yeah.

It was like a stigma to you. I'm not YouTuber. Yeah. I'll just make videos on YouTube, but I'm not YouTuber. But like trying to explain that and trying to, try to be able to, so how do you make money from it? Oh, yeah. People want to know how it's monitored. Yeah.

It's the best question. Yeah. And you get in like one magazine or a newspaper and they're like, you've made it. Yeah. You know what I mean? You can have 500,000 subscribers on YouTube. But. I was in like Virginia golfer

So like when you get a handicap in Virginia They give you this free magazine That comes out once every two months I was on the cover of that during the winter Right and like you know The whole war like my grandparents were like Oh okay I see what's going on here It's like this is a this is a throwaway newspaper

People use this to light fires I always I always see those opportunities And call those points is like That their piece of content that make your mum proud Yeah yeah They understand you're like Yeah, they mean nothing. I was on a real local news, um, uh, TV show.

And I was just, even just being interviewed. It was, it was, like, literally, I think they even spelled my name wrong in the name strap. Oh my God, you're on TV. It's like, mom, that'll get 10,000 views like, no offense. Yeah. Doing okay over here on YouTube. Yeah.

Yeah, they still get it. Um, but to be honest, she has weirdly got it a lot more in the last couple of years and ended up becoming a bit too obsessed with it. But that's another thing. So yeah, it took me a while to kind of start to be able to say the term YouTuber. But it wasn't, what was easy in the last four or five years is I believe now that most people, like I say, maybe apart from grandparents, et cetera, absolutely understand YouTube now and absolutely understand now that there are people on YouTube making videos that are doing very nicely from themselves. It's almost like the wrong misconception sometimes. it's like, oh, why you're not driving around in like a Lamborghini or whatever?

Because often it's like gamers at 20 year olds who have got, you know, millions and millions subscribers who were probably, you know, I'm, I always wonder this of myself, like what would happen? And maybe it's even to all of us. If all of this now happened and we just rewind this 10 years earlier, if we were all 10 years younger in the same position we are, I think it'd be a real dangerous mix. Yeah, I'd be.

that'd be terrible. I'd be awful. Yeah. I'd be driving around way too like, yeah, stupid a car and I'd be doing some stupid things.

And, yeah. So I'm almost glad it's happened at a point where I'm like a little bit older and a little bit more and switched on. But now, like, I'll go to a party.

I mean, often now it's quite nice. Certainly if I'm with friends and stuff, nobody really asks, because obviously know what I'm doing, but if it's new people, oh yeah, I'm a YouTuber.

And they're like, oh, wow, what you do YouTube? And it's like golf. Oh, wow. Because that's the other thing. And like, people will go and just be like, I just subscribed. But 10 years, correct. Watch your channel's name and the search.

Subscribe straight away. It's the easiest subscription you ever get. But even 10 years ago and I'd say, even when I first met my wife, I've been with my wife now for 15 years. When I first met my wife, it was like, you know, what did you do for a job? Blah, blah, blah. I was like, I'm an assistant professional in a pro shop thinking that was pretty swanky, right? Grants, I sold Mars bars and, you know, and Coke's and stuff in the, in the pro shop.

And she was like, oh, right. And she kind of just thought, it's not really got a future that. And she didn't think it was cool. She thought it was like, not cool. Like being a golf coach,

10, 12 years ago, sorry, golf wasn't cool. No. Now you say you're into golf. Well, the likeness of the people in the room, it seems like everyone's into golf now. At some capacity,

which is brilliant. You now then mix that with YouTube, which has also seen huge growth in popularity over the last 10, 15 years. TV. You're the man. You now say you're a golf YouTube. You might as well just say you have a little in the room, right?

It's like it feels very, very different. Yeah. Apparently the younger generation now when you ask them like, you know, when we were growing up, like what do you want to be when you grew up? People are like, I want to be president. I want to be a fireman. I want to be a police officer, all these things. Apparently the number one answer from kids these days is YouTuber.

YouTube. I think they all want to be YouTubers. You even said that in Jupiter. It's been a wild. Yeah, maybe that's where I heard from you. Yeah. That was wild. I might have just cited you as my source on this.

It's been about two or three years now where the number one job in schools has been YouTube. That's crazy. Now imagine teachers going, no, you can be a doctor, you can be a lawyer. No, I want to be Mr. Beast. Like, I don't know. It's a bit, it is a bit nuts as well. How do you teach for that? Like, you can't teach for that goal.

I'd even like my kids, you know, my kids are only young, soon to be nine, seven and five. and they'll understand kind of what dad does. He does a bit of golf. He does a bit of YouTube, makes videos. But it was only one time where when I got a million plaque,

you get a gold million plaque, which you guys will get very soon. You will guys get very soon. Do you not want to write. We've given you plenty of tips. Yes, you know? Yeah, yeah. There was some big tips last night.

So stay tuned. This channel is actually now going to go to the movie. Coming in a hat. It's actually got some rocket boosters on that rocket. It does. And, they'll watch YouTube kids and stuff and if they see a family that've got a million plaque

like, they'll come run in, Dad, Dad, they've got a million one like you and it's like, that's my validation. I'm the coolest dad in the world, right at that point because like the channel that they watch on YouTube kids has got the same plaque that I've got in the house so that's pretty cool. But it feels like now you don't have to, I don't have, the last time somebody asked me

how do I make money from YouTube is really rare. It feels very, very rare that people ask that question now because it feels like most people kind of somewhat get it to some degree. A lot of times, yeah, it used to be. I know where even with my dad's friends, like when I go and I play pickleball with my dad, they like, they'll ask me and I don't want to open the floodgates to all those questions. So I'll just either say, I say that I like work for a media company or whatnot just because like it'll open up over. And then my dad will like have them go to the channel to subscribe to think that like each person is going to, which I, you know, I guess technically it does. But I

ask Rick because you see the way like even they are out here like it's Rick's turf and and so many people come up to one I'm like Rick what do like when your kids see people come up to you like what are they like how do you go through that and he's like they all think that like those are his friends like those are his like those are like they always do as well and I need to I'm I do my best to shouldn't they're always wanting to get in the picture so like a fat he'll come ask for a picture and my three kids will come and stand around as I'm like kids, kids just, and my wife will grab him or whatever. And it's like, get out the funny picture.

That's awesome. But yeah, it's funny how they've kind of adapted to it. And it'll be interesting to see how they adapt to it as they get, become teenagers and go to high school. Because likelihood they're going to have, you know, young lads there or girls who are into golf. And it's like, oh, your dad's Rick Shields. And as you guys will see it. Like, like, what's the, that's a mad world. Your dad's Joey Coldcuts?

Maybe not just yet But that'll be a mad kind of stage in life Where you know Hopefully I carry some clout And again that's why going back to earlier in the In the podcast when I mentioned How protective I'm on the channel It's not just to protect me

It's to protect my members of staff who work for me It's to protect my family My wife, my kids You know I don't want to do anything that's stupid In the future that tarnishes their reputation And you mentioned a minute ago, Bob, about temptation where there's other opportunities to come about. Absolutely. There's been loads of other opportunities. But you've got to, again,

my moral compass has got to be in the right spot. And whatever decision I'm making life is going to certainly big, big decisions. They're going to stick with me for the rest of my life and not just my life, my kid's life. Sure. And to some degree, I always think of this idea like in 30, 40 years, you know if let's say whatever happens with the YouTube channel whatever happens with social media or whatever I still want to be able to walk down the street at the peace of mind that people still like me and they want to come and chat to me or they want to come and say oh Rick you used to love your videos pal and give me a little fist pull like I don't know be the guy who walks down the street it's like that people look at me and go oh you

were that guy that did X Y and Z that messed it all up for your channel or I don't know do you know yeah yeah makes sense that you've as as the face that the only face on the channel as we've got it right now is that I feel quite responsible of anything we do and it almost it bears down on my shoulders. I can't change my identity or change my face and you know go and go in disguise for the next 50 years because that's not going to happen is it really. So that's something that always plays on my mind a little bit as well but I'm sure that will be fine. We have three times the chance of fucking up. Yeah. We get some wide faces too. All right well boys we got a big night out and again Rick we can't thank you enough you've taken us under your wing

there's one of the things very very quickly yeah before you finish when you said about a minute ago what were you like what were you guys like the one thing that's absolutely stood out more than anything is how much better you are at golf and they expect as you ought to be wow that was cool to hear and that's all of every like Perez I knew you were going to be good you were much better than I expect you to be your wedge game and you're putting I mean you're putting I don't I genuinely I don't think I've ever known anybody's a whole so many puts this week damn you didn't put us hot right now down you don't you hit joking aside there was that one um you hit that one iron shot that went left that I kind of like joked to when that's the worst

shot you've hit all week apart from that you you hit a little tiny cutty miss that never puts you in trouble you're always in there you're very hard to play against like I hate playing against you because you're almost impossible. It's like bogey is the worst. But when we even played him against alternate shots, they're just impossible to play against. Like, he's impossible to play against because you don't seem to do anything wrong, which is annoying.

You just, you're used to it too. It's just like we're just used to him beating us down. Yeah. You know, it's kind of sucks sometimes. We're just getting that ass beat, Rick. I think certainly match play head to head.

You are very tough competitor. So I got to beat me. I mean, that's, you got to, play well you're going to beat me but you're never going to lose i'm not gonna yeah i'm very rarely am i just going to hand over a match to somebody you know you gotta you have to make parties yeah no he did well and then even for you uh bob the the first few days those little punch shots that you were hit those were cool they were all the first day were like you're like i got something

for that ass and then he hit this just piercing gap wedge at like five iron height and i was like with a little just a baby draw and i was like where in the world did that golf shot come from? I was getting ready for Scotland, so yeah, I turned to Perez like the first holes, like I got something for your ass and then just did one of those little bunches. He was like wild golf shots I've ever seen. I was from anyone, and it was from him.

And then Joey, some of y'all drives this way. He's got some big power, man. Seriously. Yeah, I just got to control that power. Is that not like a Superman quote or something? I'm sorry, I had to do. No, I think the thing is I would almost take, like, consistency, like Perez has consistency off the T. And I would almost forego some of the distance because sometimes I just don't have control over it.

But when I do flush shot, it's nice. He's been playing. Yeah, he's been playing. I played pretty well on this trip. In Canada, I played really well. I think a lot of it is confidence, too, you know? Like I'm I'm notoriously known as the one on the channel who just is known for my blowups and my mental outrage and just like completely like melting down. And that is it is it is it's not fabricated.

It is who I am. But with that sometimes I get down on myself because I make bad shots or I will have an opportunity to like be on top and just make mistakes. And I'm trying to be more confident in my game. And I know that I have a long way to go. but I love it so much. Again, I said to you, I love golf more than anything. It's my favorite. On our podcast, like since watching you from the start,

you two have definitely improved so much, and I think you'll continue to do so. You're not off 14 handicaps. Yeah, it's starting to get ridiculous. I think they're off 10 backups. I think they're off 10 max. I think you've given us that many strokes is making you better, too. Yeah, I mean, we've started to do.

You're still just wiping us, just. Well, the thing is, like, when we do 18, whole stroke play videos and I give you guys 14 strokes to have you whole like hole it out for 18 holes they they just seem to always like stroke play stroke play for any mid handicapped yeah but you know but match play you're right like stroke play 14 should you know like that translates pretty more like a lot more difficult to match because go make triple it's just one whole exactly but when I play them in stroke play like these they just have a tendency to put up those big boys the last time They just have one or two holes.

I was playing so well. You were like 70 holes well. And then I just, yeah, I was in the woods and I was like a woodsman just hacking away at like branches. It was tough. I don't know if it had released yet,

but he turns to, he was playing really good. And he turns to ticket on like the 13th hole. And he's like, don't look now, ticket, but I'm winning this thing. And then he goes off the tea and he just air mails one left.

I couldn't get out. Takes like four to get out of the woods. It was horrid. I, Cards of 10 and then he never had it melted down it's so yeah they're 14s in in stroke play but match play giving these guys a stroke on every hole except part three's on nine holes in match play it's tough yeah it's tough to beat them well look we'll have a whole lot of content i know you know we got all this content this time

i don't think there's any doubt that these two channels are going to be back for more and i mean who knows if we make it out alive after tonight because i know eddie's coming from blood I know all you boys are coming for blood, but again, we can't thank you enough. You've been an unbelievable host. As we've said all week, go check out Rick's channel. You probably already do. But Rick, thank you so much. And until next time, brother.

Thanks having me. Take care. That's another edition, Bob the Sports Podcast. We'll see you next time.