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Episode Date: April 16, 2025

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Have a gift for you. My goodness. Because you always make lemonade out of situations. It's a metaphor. But also you can use it. I love how it's like, it's a metaphor, but you can also use it if you want to. What was she referencing? Like, is she referencing his brother's death?

Because if that's what she was referencing, that's really funny. If she's like, you know what? You did a good job recovering from your brother dying. Here's a lemon because you made lemonade. I don't know. Maybe it was just when I was watching it. It felt like it was kind of like framed that she could be referring to that. But I think it was about breaking up with Lindsay.

I loved that the lemon was introduced as like Chekhov's gun because Emeril at the dinner brings up. She also brought him a lemon for their first date. And the lemon is sitting right there waiting to go off on Carl and just like takes the bait. So that was your first date with her? First date. Because it's come to my attention that you've been talking to her since last summer. Nope. She didn't message you last summer.

You didn't meet her parents at a soccer game. I didn't meet her parents at a soccer game. And then what? They set you up with their daughter? No. So how did that go at that soccer game? Hello and welcome to the Bravo Outsider Podcast. I'm your host Craig Midwinter.

joined as usual by Dylan Ferguson and we are talking summer house again. This was a really good one. Dylan, let's dive right in. What happened this episode? Another really good one. They're on fire. So Alexi and Jesse have more or less smoothed over their dispute to start things off. Then after that we move into a Shabbat dinner hosted by a singing Jesse Solomon. Yeah. Which is a staging ground for Lindsay. to stage her attack on Carl based on the DM slide, whose timeline is unclear, which doesn't work out in her favor.

And yeah, from there, we move on to the next day. Carl is grieving the loss of his brother. And as everybody starts to kind of shift into party mode, gives you lemons, hey? That's what they say.

Yeah, we sort of end up with, well, Jesse getting a bit questioned on his behavior towards Lexi. And then finally, Page fielding some tough questions from Sierra about where she's going in her relationship and whether she actually wants to continue to pursue things with Craig or not. Yeah, I really enjoyed this episode quite a bit. I love Jesse Solomon as an agent of chaos here. Just, you know, speaking out of both sides of his mouth in terms of like how he talks to Lexi versus how he talks to the rest of the house about Lexi. What was your overwhelming feeling throughout this episode?

I don't know. Like I said, I'm still liking this. This is really good. It's really well constructed. This is definitely kind of planting some seeds bridging us over to, I guess, how things are going to play out, both between Paige and Craig and Craig and between Lexi and Jesse. I think we have to assume that Lindsay's going to plan something else, too, that she's fuming that her attack on Carl didn't work at all.

So yeah, there's a lot of anticipation, I guess, going on in this. But also, I'm just, you know, I was having a good time with the way that it's all, the way it's all assembled. I think that the, you know, the rhythm of it was really good. A lot of great choices in the editing, as we often see from this series. I love how they start things off with Paige talking about how she's like warmed up to Lindsay and how she appreciates how Lindsay will be completely wrong about something, but will act as if she's completely right and will not let go of that.

You know, they could have included that little observation from page after Lindsay kind of demonstrates it and, you know, falls on her face a bit at the Shabbat dinner by insisting that she is right and then is presented with proof that everybody can see that she isn't. You know, they could have provided that as context after, but instead they provide it as, you know, pre-context to kind of set the stage for how we're. supposed to look at Lindsay going forward. But since that's also presented from the lens of like, Paige being like, this is what I've learned from Lindsay.

You know, she's my teacher on this. It also helps color our perception of how Paige is acting in her relationship with Craig, too. So I really like the choice to like lead things off with that. It kind of adds a framing both for Lindsay and for page that that's put in the audience's mind right off the bat. Yeah, that's a great point. Because I obviously, we get this almost immediately prefacing the conflict at the dinner table between Lindsay and Carl. But it does really frame how Paige is acting.

She's got no fucks left to give. She's like over this relationship. So yeah, I really enjoyed that. There was something that really stuck out to me in the beginning of this episode. And I'm curious if you've got to read on it. when everyone was arriving at the house for the weekend, they made a very deliberate choice to show the pile of boxes at the front of the door and everyone talking about the boxes but not bringing them in. Everyone as they are streaming in, they are neglecting their responsibility to

bring in the boxes or the bags from the car. I'm curious what you, if you read into that thematically at all. Yeah, I had it really at the moment, but it's a good point. Definitely. Yeah, remember we have like page making comments, but like, that's awesome that I can leave bags and somebody else will pick them up. That's like something we get. We get those kind of comments a lot, I think.

Usually will be followed up by like West being like trying to be a Boy Scout and be like, hey, fellas, let's make sure we move the bags for everybody. But yeah, that's a good point. that that might be included for like thematic reasons because like I pointed out, it does feel like there's some issues that are accumulated that will need to be resolved at some point or will need to be addressed at some point, probably not resolved since very few things have a beginning, middle, and end like Lindsay's attempt that attacking Carl did at the day. I think it was Sierra who said that was like after like he just shows his proof and they're like,

oh, wait, there's proof. And then Sierra's like, wow, that had a beginning, middle, and an end. That thing just wrapped up. up right now. That's, that never happens. You're, you're keying in on this conflict. And yeah, it was one of the centerpieces of this episode. How do you think overall it went for Lindsay and Carl? Like, how do you think it impacted their overall position within, you know, the structure of the house, but also, uh, just their, their narratives this, the season? Well, like I already mentioned, I think it's a clear failure on Lindsay's. part. I think she fell on her face. I see why she would want to try to run with that. She needed

something and she felt like something was given to her, uh, that the information that maybe, uh, there was a DM slide from Lil, uh, while they were still together. This was the thing that she like immediately grasped on to. And it was like, okay, I can, I can work with this. I can run with this. Um, it just, uh, the way that it played out just obviously played against her because, uh, overplayed her hand really by asking for a specific proof and then it got the the proof of Carl's perspective rather than hers. I think like I said, I mentioned already, I don't think she's going to be done with this. I think that she's just going to keep stewing about it and and keep trying to look for something else that she can use against Carl because it's important for her to show that

Carl was, was the bad actor in this relationship, which is, you know, has this the case with the breakup. People try to find a way to the show that that. they're right and the other person was wrong. That's how it goes. So for Carl, it ended up playing out really well in his benefit, not necessarily through any actions of his own, not because he necessarily played it very well.

You have one moment that was like a little bit on the canny side, at least for him, when Lindsay was attacking him and she was like, oh, well, you're a terrible judge of character and Carl kind of gestures towards her. It's like, yeah, well, obviously. That

That little moment was like about as close as he gets to like actually being like scoring a point. Actually scoring a point. Exactly. Otherwise, like when he gets a little flustered, he's he's closer to to overplaying his victory. And like he gets really close to just going too far and saying things. He almost oversteps, I think, when he says, I pray for you, which is going a little far. Though he does not say as somebody points out at somebody like relaying the. conversation afterwards when he's going upstairs to check his phone says that he said y'all need

Jesus which he did not say at least in what we see and good thing he didn't say that that would be an inappropriate thing to say at a Shabbat dinner I think yeah yeah but but he almost overplays his hand but I think by by going like with the oh I feel sorry for you but otherwise you know he mostly just like gets to be the like I'm in the right upstanding you are attacking me and I have done nothing wrong perspective. And really Lindsay inadvertently handed that to him. She gave him the opportunity to do that. And then I'm not accusing him of playing this card,

but the fact that the next day is like the anniversary of his brother's death and that he has like a very emotional moment about that, just kind of reinforces his position as somebody that other people have like sympathies towards. which is it's a separate thing of course but it's like it but following the fact that he was like got to be in the right in the dinner the night before kind of gives him firm footing right now

so he's like on pretty firm footing not necessarily because he played it like super well or anything it just kind of got handed to him I think there one thing that's really notable notable about this conflict was that Lindsay accepted that He had proof. She said thank you for the receipts and actually accepted this as opposed to,

you know, going harder. And that seemed to really play fairly well with the rest of the house. Like I think we get a confessional from West about it. And everyone at the table is like happy to move on and Sierra makes comment about the resolution. I don't think that Lindsay necessarily came off like in the negative after this this conflict. I think she actually did make the most of this by scoring points by accepting the evidence and like being willing to move on. Obviously her ideal situation was that she could take down Carl.

But once that was off the table, the fact that she was able to, you know, pivot and make the most of the situation. I think was really good. But yeah, I'm curious what you think about how she's impacted. Yeah, like I said, I think negatively, but I think she had no choice. She had no choice in the situation, but to like, it would have just been digging a hole if she tried to, to be, I don't know, tried to be like, oh, but then maybe there was another message sent through a different app or something, you know, that would have, she recognized. that that would have been digging a hole at that point, that like there was kind of, this was a dead end. So it was the right choice to be like, okay, that's, that's it then.

Like, there's no, there's no real turn I can make here. I've hit a wall. And, but you're right. Like, the others do seem to take that in good stride. West in particular, as you mentioned, it's like, pregnant Lindsay fucking rocks her boyfriend better, better knock her up again. So something about that he thought was fucking awesome. I'm not quite sure what part of that he's referring to, but Wes loved it.

So that played well with him anyways. Another thing that I really keyed in on during this Shabbat dinner was the seating arrangement of like Sierra and Lexi being right next to each other positioned at like beside Jesse while he's delivering the the prayer. I just really enjoyed the shot of him. Well, we see a shot while he's delivering the prayer of Sierra, like, mouthing the words along to what he's singing. And just, I really enjoy that they are playing up how in-sync Jesse and Sierra are as opposed to, like, as a contrast to all the, the friction between Jesse and Lexi this episode. Yeah, I'm really enjoying that, that contrast and that, that, that tension that that's there. Did anything else stand out to you in terms of the presentation? Yeah, it's in terms of the presentation, if we could just like return to the moment where Carl is emotional in the morning, thinking about his brother who died, that's one of those moments where having the kind of static cameras that are kind of intruding on the privacy of the characters works really well.

we have kind of a static camera watching him from behind until the guy start coming out, Emeril first, surprisingly. And then kind of the other guys all kind of sort of gather around. And they sort of awkwardly provide a little comforting bubble. I like having that little like Congress of dudes that kind of cluster around the wounded member. And the way that they use those, that kind of static surveillance camera outside. works well for that, for sure. Yeah. And there is also kind of a Congress of the girls earlier, too.

There's a bit of a separation here. Usually there's like a lot of melding in the show between guys and girls, not really on other sides. But this show, I mean, literally during the Shabbat dinner, they're literally separated from one side of the table and on the other. But we have, earlier in the episode, we have kind of a Congress of women talking to Lexi and sort of with concern advising or listening to her, which is not quite the same thing as the boy's comforting Carl, but it rhymes a little bit, those two moments where the woman gather around

one of the women that they're worried about, and later on the men gather around one of the men that they're worried about. They kind of rhyme together. So I definitely picked up on that, that I liked. And I really like the way this episode ends too. while we're talking about the way it's presented the aesthetics. I just wanted to highlight that too. Having Sierra kind of pull page aside as the sun setting, they get to do a little bit of a slapstick adventure. They go to sit in a hammock and Sierra falls out of the havoc. But then when they finally do sit down, which is a good conversation, I'm sure we'll get to that very soon.

I really like having Sierra's hand movements or earnest hand movements foregrounded in the shot. page's reaction and page has a very reactive face you know page is always a great person to have reacting to some listening to people on camera because she has great expressions like uh totally yeah yeah so having her react to the way that sierra's interrogating her uh a little deeper in the frame and a little closer in the frame just having these the gestures of sierra's hands as we have a bit of a over the shoulder kind of shot that that was like as the shadows are kind of deep and and then in the deep background, there's just a little hint of the kind of the other people

starting to shift into party mode. That was the kind of scene where I was just like, yeah, this is good stuff. Like, this is really selling it for me. This is good shot choices right here. Yeah, totally. I, like, I brought up the boxes at the beginning of this episode that I really liked. I feel like there is maybe a bit of a theme surrounding.

responsibility and what you're responsible for within a relationship during this episode because we see well that's the core of the conflict between Lindsay and Carl where they're talking about you know what do you owe someone in a relationship and we also have the conflict between Jesse and Lexi that we're pretending that that is resolved right now but this idea about like responsibility within a relationship We also have... Within his Instagram follows. Yeah, exactly.

But yeah, I just, I really like this idea, this, this theme of responsibility within this, this episode. And I also, like you mentioned, the scene where Carl is outside. I really like how they kind of pay lip service to the idea of like emotionally supporting each other within like male relationships. and then awkwardly it gets into this meta about male friendships and how men often are really guarded about their emotions. And they use that as a way to like themselves be guarded. Instead of actually talking about the emotions that Carl is having, they're talking about how men deal with emotions in order to avoid actually talking

about their emotions. So I really like that moment quite a bit. Yeah. Yeah. for sure. Do you have any questions that you're dying to see resolved in the next episode? How is Lexi and Jesse going to end? That's the kind of question that I'm interested. I do not give them a full season as a couple. I do not think they make it to the finale. So the question is, how does it end? Is it Jesse just like straight up sleeping with Sierra and everybody knows? Is

it's got to be Jesse doing something because Lexi is just in so deep. And like, and I do feel for her too. Absolutely. Like when she says like, oh, yeah, after we had our little dispute or whatever on the kickball game, she's like, I basically cried for two days. And I'm like, Jesus Christ. Like you cried for two days now. Like, what's it going to be when like real shit happens?

Chances with me. Yeah, yeah, for sure, Lexia. I'm sure, yeah. And the way she, like, starts to, like, blame Imral for, like, the toe sucking is clearly, she's doing all kinds of mental gymnastics to not blame Jesse for what Jesse is entirely responsible for his own behavior. She is so invested in this. And I feel bad for her because Jesse is totally.

encouraging this too. Like he is, he, and he's in over his headed away too, that he doesn't know how to manage her expectations within a relationship.

So the only thing he can think to do is capitulate to making their, uh, making their bond deeper and digging them deeper into this whole together and being like, okay, okay, oh, you're mad at me. Okay,

I guess then you'll have to meet my parents, you know? Like, if he keeps doing this, eventually he'll just be like, Like, ah, now I, now you're really mad at me because I slept with somebody else. Well, I guess I'm going to have to get out the ring and engaged you. God damn it.

Guess we're going to have to have kids. Yeah. He does not know how to be like, this isn't actually that serious for me. So we're going to have to learn to create a space that is like, has like managed expectations. And, uh, and, uh, and, you know, we're going to have to learn how to take things a little more slowly and kind of figure things out a little bit. He doesn't know how to do that, how to have that conversation. So he's just like, shit, well, I guess I love you extra much and we're going to have to make this even more serious. And then that's just going to build up more resentment in him towards her because he feels like that

she's making him do this stuff when this is just the way he's reacting because he doesn't know like what else to do. And the only person who's happy about this is West because West is jealous as hell. Like West wants this relationship to be broken up because West absolutely clings to Jesse as like his his support like their friendship is like so important to his position in the group I think in West's own eyes that that's that like you can see what like near the start where West is in the backseat of the car. Yeah. Third wheel again. He's he's absolutely not saying things like well you guys just got to work it out and and I'm sure it'll be fine. He's saying things like, like, I don't have the exact quotes, but he's saying stuff. Like, yeah, well, you know, like if, if Jesse just feels like this isn't the right time for him, then,

then, yeah, it's not going to work out. That's not going to miss, it's not going to, it's not going to be a thing. Like, he's completely just blithely being like, yeah, well, probably is it going to work then. Yep. You guys are probably going to break out, break up. You guys probably going to, like, that's what he wants to happen. And he's so excited. Making them feel stupid for, like, introducing Lexi to Jesse's parents.

Exactly, yeah. And he's so excited, West, when Jesse comes to talk to him about the relationship. He's so excited, first, that Jesse is relying on him, of course, because that's what he wants. But also because then he can provide his counsel, and his counsel is going to be to try to push Jesse away from Lexi because he wants his bunkmate. He wants his bunkmate to have an empty bed again. Because, again, such a third wheel. He's like literally sitting in a bed next to them. well, they're starting to make out.

And he's just being like, just riffing like, uh, Toe Rogan over here. Yeah. Edgar Allen Toe. And they're like, Ben, we want to fuck. Like, Jesus Christ, dude. Okay. So this, this episode, we also got a very unceremonious goodbye to Lil as far as I know. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, this is definitely maybe the last we see of her. Presumably it would be awesome if there was a little comeback. But it seems like the lemon cooked her. Yeah. I love that the lemon was introduced as this like Chekhov's gun. I didn't realize it at the time.

I'm like, oh, that's like a weird, quirky little thing. Maybe it's some sort of token, but it ended up being like Chekhov's gun. Because Emeril at the dinner brings up, oh yeah, she. brought she brought jesse a lemon because when life gives you a lemon and the lemon is sitting there like right there waiting to go off on carl and just like takes the bait i just thought i i thought it was brilliant i loved it so much yeah it was great and i love how it's a metaphor but you can also use it if you want to yeah what was she referencing like is she referencing his brother's death because if that's what she was referencing,

that's really funny. If she's like, you know what? You did a good job recovering from your brother dying. Here's a lemon because you made lemonade. I don't know. Maybe it was just when I was watching it. It felt like it was kind of like framed that she could be referring to that.

But I think it was about like breaking up with Lindsay and that relationship ending. That makes sense. I have to assume that it was. wasn't that malicious. Yeah. It is great though. It's hilarious to be that Carl, who's a pretty boring guy, was just like willing to just overlook all her quirky behavior because he's just like, you know, she's interested in me. That's what matters. And then this is like just one, as soon as she does prop comedy, as soon as she brings out a prop, he's like, oh, man, I can't, I can't deal with this. Yeah. All right.

do you have any any quotes that stand out to you i i really like how somebody at some point somebody asks amanda like what carl's up to and he's like he's been practicing tjing with sunglasses on and he is he's practicing dj with sunglasses on that's such a that's such a carl thing it's just great he's just in the other room just saying oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it's just such a such a kyle thing to be to do and he's such he's just he's just so adorably simple I love the man so much and it is kind of heartbreakingly sweet how at the Shabbat dinner like what's something you're thankful for this week and he's like my girlfriend held my hand on the plane yeah good for you buddy uh do you have any other highlights that we haven't gone over? Hmm, we haven't got over.

Yeah, we've gone through a lot of it. I do, hey, what we're talking about quotes, I do kind of like page diagnosing Lexi by saying that Lexi's being a little too Canadian. And I was wondering if you agree with that diagnosis. Do you think Lexi is just being too Canadian? or is she just being 2 26 year old? That those are the two diagnoses that page offers,

that she's too Canadian and she's 2 26 years old. Both valid, both valid reasons for why she's acting this way. I didn't get the Canadian thing. What, like, what is that supposed to mean? What is that supposed to mean? Well, I think she means that she's being too naive, that she's being too,

to trusting, to open, to guileless. Yeah, that's the way I interpreted it anyways. Is that what we are known for? Leave a comment. Leave a comment. Yeah, well, on the topic of quotes and Lexi,

the confessional that we got from her where she says, it's not that I don't trust Jesse, but why would I 100% trust Jesse right now? I thought was really, really good. I think that she, I don't know if she's naive or if she's just like really optimistic. I don't know. What do you think?

Too Canadian. That's definitely. No, but really, though, I think I really like when Paige is talking about it near the end when she's kind of overhearing Jesse and West discussing Lexi. And she kind of can't help butt in and be like, you know, this is she's younger than you are. her behavior isn't unreasonable. She's just like young and that's what you should expect. And you can't like just treat her as being like like crazy and making wacky demands when that's like actually normal behavior. You know, she's, page says something like when I was 26 years old, I was like showing up at people's houses and pounding on the door and saying, I know you're in there.

Saying that you should probably unfollow these those women you followed on Instagram is like moderate. 26 year old insecurity. And honestly, I think that's the right read. Like, like, that's why I'm not like criticizing Lexi for her behavior here. Because, well, like I said, for one thing, Jesse is so encouraging of it. And instead of like trying to manage expectations is just like try to make their relationship deeper and encouraging her to trust him more and more, even though she can see with her own eyes, she shouldn't. But doesn't want to because she's, you know, blinded by by really adoring. this relationship and wanting it to work.

But like, yeah, she obviously has less experience than he does. That's normal. She's younger than him. And like that that kind of like insecurity is like is pretty normal behavior actually. And that's something that you should have to as the partner of her like manage and work with and not just be like like what the hell is she up to, you know, those crazy Canadians or whatever. So I actually really like pages intervention there.

thought there was like needed to be said and was like well said yeah so last week we were talking a little bit about lexie's edit and whether or not she is getting painted as being overbearing and a little bit crazy i'm wondering if your opinion on this has changed at all after watching this episode do you think that the edit is leaning into this idea of lexie being overbearing or do you still think that it's fairly balanced. Yeah, my perspective is that it's, is that it's, it's fairly balanced, but that's more, more my perspective on her, I guess. When I do try to think of like the specific, like, moments of confessional that they include, uh, you highlighted one there. Um,

and, yeah, uh, I highlighted the one that they include her saying that she basically cried for two days straight. Like, yeah, they are including sentences that she, says that make her sound a little over-obsessed with a relationship, which could definitely be seen as them like trying to paint her as being unhinged and like unreasonable. Yeah, it's an interesting question. It's always an interesting question. Like, what is just like the audience interpretation? What is the choices that are guiding us into a sense?

certain way or not. I think that having the other voices in the cast is what really makes it feel more balanced more so than the framing on the show. So I guess like if we didn't have pages comments that I just highlighted about like putting some context on her like, you know, that this is the way this is the way women are when they're 26 years old often and stuff. That's, um, then I think you could say like, yeah, the show is is being too harsh on the way that they're presenting here. So Yeah, I think you could make the argument that the edit is being unkind to her. But with the full context of the show and having the other character's perspective included, it feels more balanced to me. That makes a lot of sense.

I do think that we are getting more moments where Lexi seems very naive and clingy or whatever than like balancing moments. We do get pages read. but that's really the only example. We got a really emphasized scene of Lexi coming out and talking with the girls and saying, you know, oh, Jesse was flirting with Sierra. They're such like they've got a brother's sister dynamic. I can't see it. And it's punctuated by a cough from Sierra and then a glance from page where she's, you know,

clearly suspect of it. And I do think that they are definitely leaning into painting Lexi a certain type of way. But she's also doing this to herself a little bit here. Yeah, you're right. I mean, to be clear, I think she is. Even over her head, I don't think she isn't. It's just that, like, my take is that it's not unreasonable of, it's not unreasonable behavior with the context of everything else with her being in this, uh, in this new relationship.

with like an older, more experienced, very charming mad who is encouraging her to be that way. Like, that's basically what I take. Like, I think that that she is being very Canadian and so it is fair to paint her that way. I'm just going to keep using Canadian as a shorthand for that. What other highlights do you have? We pretty much went over through all the bits that I like best. So what about you? would you pick up anything we haven't mentioned yet?

No, I don't think I've got anything that we haven't really mentioned yet. We can dive into our stars. Dylan, who are your stars from this episode? You know, I did like this episode from Page a lot. For the reasons I've mentioned, I like her intervening in the conversation about Lexi. I like her sort of getting information from Lexi and kind of wanting to guys. her, but also figure out what's going on. And I definitely like her conversation with Sierra at the end, where Sierra kind of pushes

her to admit that maybe her frustrations about Craig are more to do with her changing perspective on Craig than actual Craig's behavior. Sierra had a good line there where she says, like, okay, why are you putting it on him? And I read that not in a sense of like, oh, why are you blaming him for everything? but like why are you framing this all in terms of things that he's doing and things that he is saying when it kind of feels to be like this is your perspective that has changed. Like you're the one that has changed. Yeah. Yeah. And that's what you're struggling to comes to terms with is how that how your

perspective on the relationship and on him has changed. And that's the real subject here. And that's what you need to be thinking hard about. I might have just talked myself into giving Sierra Star too because she was actually really good at this too. Yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah, but let's give page number one, really interesting to me. And again, a lot of great faces, good sunglasses. I'll give Sierra number two. I just stuck myself into it.

We don't have a ton of her here, but she's always good when she's on screen. I do like that sort of balancing act where like you mentioned, she sort of sinks up with Jesse a little bit. And there are these little hints that it makes a lot more sense her and Jesse than Jesse and Lexi. Like they are more on the same page. They are like probably have a similar age. maybe from a similar background, neither of them are Canadian. There is like, their vibe actually just matches better. And I like those little hints to that.

There you go. To sum it up. And she has to kind of play that dance where like it's not like, it's not her job to say, Jesse. Like, no, don't, don't be too affectionate towards me. You know, that's his job. She's not the one in the relationship. But she has that kind of dance where she like, and Joyce is.

company and is somewhat open to it as well for sure, but doesn't want to, she clearly has sensitivity towards Lexi as well, too, and doesn't want to completely detonate their relationship. Sierra is a, you know, she's a smart person. She comes off as kind of canny and, and observant. And so even when she doesn't have a lot of screen time, she doesn't have a lot of like big conversation moments. You get a lot from her. So yeah, I'll give her a second start because I, you know, I always like Sierra too.

And let's give a third start of Lexi. I'll just give it. It'll it'll all be for the, I'll be for the ladies this week. Yeah, she's still good TV too. I'm kind of watching her like through my fingers, like with my eyes covered because, you know, this is going to end really badly for her.

But, but in the meantime, she is, she does give some good lines and she is pretty fun to watch. Yeah, I think I've got the same one and two picks. Sierra, I thought, was great. I think that she's having a great season. Paige as well, this is a fantastic season for Paige. We're getting such a well-rounded performance from her in terms of like she's just got a lot of depth to her character. She's involved in a lot of external narratives.

And we're also getting her like her relationship arc. We're seeing it play out way more in depth than we. got on Southern Charm. So I'm just like really appreciating that she's so open and willing to put things out on on camera in a way that Craig seemed not willing to do on Southern Charms. So, um, yeah, love that from Paige. Sierra, like you said, all the reasons she's, she's in the mix. She's like, she's really a sounding board for Paige.

here. She's also got her own thing going in terms of the triangle between her Jesse and Lexi. She babysat a cat last week. We got to see a cat photo. Shout out to my cat people. Leave a cat emoji in the comments. Just like really loves Sierra. I think she is one of if not the smartest people in the house in terms of like how she navigates things socially. She feels like she has a very spot on read. on where people are at and just the way that comes across and all the conversations and how she navigates things. I just really love watching her play on a show where we don't have a lot of social strategy. Sierra is someone that I'm always watching for in terms of who she is talking to. She's not the most active person here, but she's always very well positioned with everyone. So, yeah, I really enjoy what she brings to the table here. She's my number two. And number three, I am going to give it to Lindsay just because, yes, she did, like, things didn't go the way she wanted at the dinner.

She didn't get this big explosive mic drop moment. But I think that her pivot was really like, it was. really smart. I think that she played the situation as best she could. She was really kind of set up by Gabby unintentionally in order to fail in this situation. She got pumped. She got really gassed up here. And when it was clear that it was not going her way, I think she managed that situation really well. and it played well and she is has not lost any ground against Carl. So I think that it was, it gave us a really exciting scene. She didn't lose any position.

And I just like to see her fired up and and angry. So, yeah, she gets a, she gets a star here. Yeah, good call. So I think that about does it for this week. Next week, we are going to be talking about Summer House. as well as the premiere of the Valley. What are you looking forward to in the Valley this season? Oh, man.

I was really surprised how much I liked the first season of the Valley. Yeah, me too. Yeah, I'm excited for everything. Probably most excited for Kristen, honestly. Let's see what storylines she's got cooking up there. Yeah, I am excited for all of it. So we know that Jacks and Brittany have split. So seeing how that plays out is going to be really interesting.

Kristen is always good TV. And then we've got Jesse who is like maybe the most toxic person on the cast, returning post-divorice or whatever. Just really excited to see maybe one of the best villains on Bravo. Not, well, maybe in the top five. So, yeah. Yeah, we'll see. I think they've teased some more Vanderpump alumni that are going to be shifting over too, right?

So I think you might. Oh, yeah. I don't know if they're full time or not. Yeah, I don't know if that's going to be like one episode cameos or what, but I'll be excited to see how the expanded universe continues to develop. Yeah, I haven't even watched the preview for this. So I'm going in blind. Awesome. Well, that about does it for this week.

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