Oscars Outsider - Vanderpump Rules S11 Premiere Recap/Analysis

Episode Date: February 2, 2024

Welcome to the Bravo Outsider Podcast! This week hosts Craig Midwinter and Dylan Ferguson are joined by Sean O'Rourke for an episode packed with insights and analysis of the S11 Premiere of Vanderpump Rules. 🍸Featured Bravolebs: Pump Rules: Lisa Vanderpump, Tom Schwartz, Tom Sandoval, Ariana Madix, Katie Maloney, Scheana Shay, Lala Kent, James Kennedy, Ally Lewber, Brock Davies 📣 Stay Connected: Find Dylan Ferguson on Substack at https://dylanferguson.substack.com/ Find Bravo Outsider on Instagram at ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/bravooutsider https://www.bravooutsider.com 📖 Credits Music by FASSounds from Pixabay

Hello and welcome to the Bravo Outsider podcast. I'm your host Craig Midwinter, joined once again by Dylan Ferguson. Dylan, how's it going? Going great now that there's new Vanderpump out there. Yeah, we're back. This is my Christmas morning. Yeah, I am very stoked. This felt like the Super Bowl for me.

And I was feeling a little like, I don't know, I didn't know what to expect going into this. I was feeling a bit reserved just because there's been so much like offline talk about what or online talk about what has been going on off camera. Yeah. But yeah, I feel like it delivered. We'll get into it right away. But we are joined once again by Sean O'Rourke. Sean, how's it going?

That's cool and great. Thanks for having me back. Oh, wait, I got to do a thing. Hit that shit. Is that citrus bus? Sean, you were with us for our Vanderpump journey last season. You joined us for, I think, one or two episodes during season 10 and then for our reunion coverage. So you've got some context going into this.

I want to just like, just let's start right with it. What were you expecting going into this before watching? I was expecting a lot of fireworks. I think that having not having Sandoval actually show up as a good choice, but I was kind of hoping for just like getting me right into it and showing me some conflict between him and Ariana right off the back. In retrospect, I like that it's going to play out a bit more. Yeah, totally.

Dylan, I think Sean brings up like one of the most, like the biggest choice that was made when constructing this episode was to leave Sandoval out of it until the very end. And what did you think about that decision? I think it's a great choice. For one thing, because it gives us an amazing cliffhanger at the end when he shows up and wanders into

the apartment. But also, I think it's a smart choice to let us kind of check in with the other characters and kind of see where they are before like the grenade of Sandoval's presence gets thrown in among them, like just to give us a bit of a sense of where everybody's at first. So we have that kind of baseline

understanding of how everybody's feeling how they've been doing since. I think that's going to be important going forward that we kind of have have some of that characterization established first. Yeah, totally. I think one of the things that really stood out to me about this was it kind of allowed like Tom Sandoval the on-screen villain to be built up because Tom Sandoval, the off-screen villain, like the online villain, has been this like dominating force in the discourse online.

And if we were to get him right out of the gate, everything would be colored by our perspective offline, by all that context that we have going into this. This allowed the story to sort of reframe him in the way that they want to going forward in this season. So I thought it was a really strong choice. And also to get him, you know, kind of slink in under the cover of night,

this like new villain emerging. I thought it was, it was really beautiful. Yeah. Let's, let's, before we get into it, we're going to repurpose our housewives in the hurry.

I don't know what we're going to call for Vanderpump rules like Swift servers or I, I don't know, but we're going to give Sean 20 seconds to, yeah, 20 seconds to recap as much as he can remember from this episode. And your time is going to start right now. Okay. Okay, we get a check in with how everybody's doing really quick.

James and Allie have a house near the airport. Tom Schwartz has plants. Sandibles in New Zealand. There's a girls' night where there's empathy between Lala for Raquel. Oh, I missed something in there. Got a lot of it. No, that's really good. Yeah, you covered a lot of it.

So what was your standout moments here, here, Sean? What was the centerpiece of this for you? I think probably the girl's night when Lala is trying to reconcile like her empathy for Raquel's position as like the other woman and, you know, wanting to maintain her relationship with Ariana and the gals. I like how that played out quite a bit. I also like that they got like a bunch of fried food, which you don't normally see them getting. Yeah, comfort. Yeah, I just like that a lot. Like Lala in that place of like wanting to be loyal to Ariana,

but having to navigate like all of these other relationships. And the other thing that stood out was how just Tom Schwartz's whole energy of the episode. It's not really one thing. But his like his divorced guy energy is manifesting as this really weird nesting. like he's a plant dad and he loves the candles. And he's so evangelical about it. And his pet bugs, the Beatles. That's such a great little little.

I'm like, yeah, we got some teasers about like what's going to happen with shorts, I think. But like, for what we have in this episode, I'm really pumped to see how his life just goes for a while. Yeah, totally. You brought up the girls night scene, which I think is a good segue into discussing just how, this piece of art was put together because that was one of my standout scenes here. One of the things that I really appreciated about this scene was how they used like a lot. The way they managed the color was everything was like really crushed. But all the all the women here were dressed in either black or white. And it kind of really spoke to the binary perspective that

all these characters around the table had about this situation. It was like, you know, there's good and then there's bad. And it was just like really, you know, true, false way of looking at things, except for Lala, who had a, like, a gray shawl over top of her. And she was the one person that also was seeing this in a bit more of a gradient. There was this, you know, this multifaceted view that was emerging and overcoming her. and she was seeing the dimension to the situation. And I just thought that it was really cool how it was composed,

how this scene was composed in this way. And it also, you know, the text of their conversation was, was very similar. Do either of you guys have anything that you want to call out in terms of how this was presented? I do have two notes on how it's shot. normally the visual aspects don't stand out as much to me in this kind of program. But I really like the way they shoot Sandable coming in at the end where we get like the shot of just his stupid little sneakers and then him from behind.

And then there's him opening the door like through the plants. Nicer compositions that I'm used to. And I want to shout out the hero shots of everybody going into Tom Tom Club. Everybody gets like a slowed down walk toward the camera like all. almost Michael Bay without the camera spinning around kind of thing. Yeah, totally. You know, you mentioned that Sandval was in New Zealand. I forgot that's where he was.

They should have had him like doing the Hobbit thing where he's like walking on the ridge of mountain tops. And just like every once in a while just like splice in like 30 seconds of that like as they discussed him eventually coming back to L.A. But still dressed like an absolute prick. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Dylan, what did you think about how this was presented? I come to Vanderbump rules expecting really cool impressionistic editing,

and that's something that I've just come to expect from the show, and we get some of that. I really like the moment of, I think right before a break, they have like Ariana dancing in TomTom, trying to enjoy yourself, and they intercut it with some very quick snippets of like the Scandival breaking, and like her and Tom shouting at each other. Yeah.

And I love the other way that they like summoned the like intrusion of this like irrepressible trauma just like ruining her night through the through just editing. I think that's that's the kind of shit that the show is consistently good at and I really enjoyed that. Totally. Yeah. That scene. Super fast like the whole thing's fracturing in there too. Yeah. Yeah.

That scene was like incredible because that comes right off another beautiful scene in the Tom. Tom Alley where it's got this like elevated platform that Lala's on and it looks like the set of a Broadway production like when Lala comes off like she enters from like the wing of a stage and then she's elevated and there's kind of two staircases that she can go down and she stands in the middle of it and we like look up on her watching her make this phone call to Rachel and yeah I think that the way that this scene was put together was particularly stunning and like you said that that emotional

rapid interspicing of frames of you know the scandivol interrupting everyone's good time and you know it's it's cut to the pace of of the music and it is still like clear that's the

scandival is what is driving everyone's emotion in the scene and it is interrupting everything I think yeah it's just a beautiful scene all around. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, did you guys have any other notes on presentation or anything like that? Was Schwartz's bug dead? I guess it was a beetle. They play dead. That's what they did. They play dead. Well, maybe we should read into that. Schwartz himself is playing dead in a way.

He's trying to lay low. He doesn't afraid to stick his head up. I did think that there was actually a really interesting, some visual choices surrounding Schwartz that were interesting, particularly in the scene with James and Schwartz at where they're having their, well, Schwartz is having a beer and James is having like three espresso's. Yeah. Um, but, uh, Schwartz was like in like neutrals and really consumed by the, um,

the, the environment. Like we could see the, the bar was really cast in all these warm neutrals and it kind of overtook Schwartz. Whereas James, he was framed with the exterior behind him. and he was the only one bathed in like the sunlight to a degree and there was like neon lights behind him and

he was just obviously framed separate from Schwartz throughout the beginning of that conversation and then by the time that that scene ends it's shot from a perspective behind James so that he is in that that neutral and he's kind of brought into the same space as as Schwartz and I thought that that was a good way of representing how the bond is kind of like tightening between them. Like James is kind of welcoming Schwartz back in, even, you know, even though there's still some separation there. I appreciated that as well. Yeah, the only other thing in terms of interesting like visual storytelling that I picked up in

this was the fact that the first cast members that we see, in this, aside from the intro, is not the actual, like, people. It's art. It's framed art of Ariana and Sandoval that are still hanging up in their house. And that is also the exact same piece of art that is closed on in this. So I thought it was a really interesting choice to use that to bookend this. And I don't exactly know what that is representing. but I thought it was an interesting choice. I think it's kind of similar to the discussion about having Schwartz and Sandys as the name of the bar, like in that you've got these,

they've built a brand around like these, their groupings and like they've got this like kind of iconic presentation. They've been on TV for years. They're doing restaurants and books together and stuff. And I think that's making it even harder to try to move on and adapt just because they have got the weight of, of these partnerships, both Tom and Tom and

Tom and Ariana that are like more than just their partnerships, their company, their memories, but are also like brands and icons, like a, you know, like a big framed image or like the name on top of the bar.

Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. I think like, so this was a shot of Tom and Ariana that was in their house. And I think like maybe one way of reading that is, you know,

talk i was talking about that separation between you know our online discourse and the the um the figures of tom and ariana and how they are you know the heroes and villains of this online discourse and i think that maybe that um that image of them that very like still frozen image could represent this idea of them of them as characters in this online discourse. And then when we finally do actually see them in real life or in the text of the show, that is their three-dimensional form. So yeah, I think that that's a really good possible read on that. Let's dive into our highlights on this.

Sean, do you want to get us started with what your highlights were? Yeah. Like I said, comedy comedy shorts, big highlight. I think I focus most on probably Lala throughout the episode, which I don't normally do.

But I'm just really interested in her, like, yeah, trying to reconcile how she feels between Ariana. Are we going with Raquel or Rachel? Rachel is what she perverse. So that's what we go with. Okay, Rachel.

I only have what's in the text. I've not been online yet. Yeah. Yeah, mostly Lala, and I kind of want to see how that plays out, especially as we get, like, Rachel and Sandoval back in. Also, a very small highlight, I think it's in the very beginning, Ariana's making herself a latte, and there's a great little dig when she says, no one ever did that for me, because there's a very specific instance. I think where Sandoval says that he buys her a latte as, like, an act of love, but I really like the, like, yeah, I think he says he makes her a dumpling. latte was I think the specific term I believe it's like

I get her a dumpling latte maybe yeah I see I interpreted the line nobody ever does that for me in reference to her making like a little heart out of cinnamon or chocolate on top that that's what I did that reference to like I could do it myself and I can make it even better than he made it because there's a little hard on it now

also I think the fact that they're still living together I find very interesting and I I think that's going to make for really good TV for a few weeks. Yeah. Yeah. And apparently still living together. Like, that's not something that we'll see come to a close this season because they are still living in the same house and communicating through Tom's assistant, which is really funny.

That was a really funny bit of comedy where they have a little like shot of their messages and her la la is like, the neighbors are saying the alley lights are bothering that with assistant Texas back. he says it falls under free speech. Yeah. Just like the perfect like shithead dumb guy response. Yeah. Feels so bad for that assistant. Yeah. Totally.

Dylan, what were your highlights? The beetle mostly. I think I think it was actually a weeviled all that I think of it. I think it had that long snout that a weeviled. Maybe that's why Schwartz is showing. it. He's like, look, it's the lesser of two weevils like me. I'm going to cut that. Please do.

Um, another highlight was the postcard that Rachel sent to Tom of the Arizona postcard with a bunch of like a lightning storm. That was an amazing postcard. That was just a beautiful tacky postcard. I love that a lot. I do, Schwartz was definitely the second most interesting character because it is fun to watch him still. Watch the journey of somebody who's built his whole

personality around being likable, figure out how to deal now that he's like getting older and has found himself in a position where he's labeled as not somebody you're allowed to like. And he just doesn't really have anything else to fall back on. So it's going to be really interesting to see him like try to like rebuild his identity some ways through. Hopefully there's more like,

Beatles and terrariums and like, you know, random shit that he starts getting. I think we got a taste of a hair change for him later, right? Yeah. Yeah. And the brilliant moment where Lala says you look like dad bod can. Yeah. Yeah.

I'd see there was a photo that, that I saw in line a while ago where we saw shorts this new haircut where like the two tombs are walking next to each other. Craig, you might know what I'm talking about. And Schwartz just looks pretty. in pretty rough shape. Like, you know, getting pretty thick and slouchy and just like, you know, looking and like he's kind of unwell.

And Sandville, as usually, looks, you know, pretty fucking good. Like, he is, uh, that's one of the advantages of being a narcissist is that he's kept extremely good care of himself. And it looks great. And it just looks like Schwartz has like Sandival's personal portrait of Dorian Gray. Like he's just absorbing all his, his aging. So he has really good. It's like a Ben Affleck getting packages with Dunkin' Donuts energy about him.

Yeah, totally. Very done with it. Yeah. Yeah, I definitely agree with you and Sean about Lala and Schwartz being the most interesting people to watch in this episode in that order. I think like you said, the, like Tom losing the only thing that he kind of has, which is being this kind of like guy and seeing him try to reclaim that. And he's so strategic in how he is approaching it. Like he is, first he's gone to James because like James is one of the people that he

probably stands a decent chance of getting, uh, working his charm on still. Like, and James has also got a big boost from, uh, Scandival and he's, you know, everyone's labeling him as the number one guy in the group. So it makes sense for him to, uh, strategically try to get James back on board with him. And then he's also so desperate for Ariana's approval. Like we see him trying to do everything he can and even asking Katie and trying to like disarm Katie a bit when she comes over and, you know, by cracking jokes about cutting

dingleberries off their dog and then showing his beetle collection, like really leaning into that juvenile side of him like a like a kid who, finds a bug and bring it to mom to show. It feels like it kind of works because she like does kind of crack. Like he still knows how to disarm Katie, maybe the best out of, out of everyone. I mean,

you should. They were married for a long time. Like, of course, she's got to still be like susceptible to some of his charm. Like, that's only normal. Yeah,

totally. So it makes sense that he sees her as maybe an avenue to get back on Ariana's good side. But obviously, Ariana's like not having any of that. And that kind of makes me, I find it a little moving. It makes me kind of sad is the shorts and Ariata stuff because they were really, really good friends for a long time.

Or they seem to have been like really good friends. And I do feel like it's a bit of a shame that that they have to lose this friendship just on principle. Like it really feels like Ariana is doing it on principle. Like not because she doesn't want Schwartz to be somebody that she can like hang out with and have fun with like she used to. Like she just feels like it's part of the principle of the thing is that. I have to, you know, cut every, every tissue surrounding the cancer out.

And I feel like that's kind of one of the sad parts of it, too. Yeah, for sure. I mean, she's well within her right to feel betrayed by him. But yeah, it is like. I doubt that it's the best thing for her, you know. Yeah. So let's talk about Ariana a little bit. What are you guys, what were you expecting from her coming into this?

And like, what are you hoping? to see or expecting to see this season? I'm hoping, like, for, I don't know if it's the right word, but maybe some softening, at least with like the friend group, like especially Schwartz. The shot of Schwartz trying to sidle up on her in the restaurant and he just looks like the saddest dog, I think, really got to me. Yeah. But like, yeah, I can like, I understand, obviously, it sucks to be betrayed that badly.

But like Dylan's saying, like how. good is it for you to hold all of that, like, on principle hatred and especially with all these complex, like interweaving relationships they all have. So I'm hoping that she, that that kind of opens up a bit more and maybe there's some resolution or at least that's what I'd like to see. Yeah, Dylan, how about you? Yeah, I mean, nothing too surprising from Ariana this episode. And it will be interesting to see how it goes, especially since we get some hints that some people might be starting to lose patience with the, like, the party line that you just have to show complete deference to Ariana and everything, both in shorts showing a little bit of a frustration by calling

her like the patron saint of scorned woman or something. Right. And then in the like the little preview of the season, we have a line by Lala saying something like the first person I know to get cheated on and be turned into a god or something like that. Yeah. So if we do eventually see a bit of like resentment towards her, her position bubbling through, that's going to maybe make for some very interesting and conflicted emotions.

Yeah, totally. I was thinking about like Ariana and what I am looking for from her story this season, just purely from like a character perspective and trying to reconcile this like this want that I have of her to, like you said, Sean, maybe soften or maybe like, um, uh, temper her anger or, like have some sort of downfall or, and have the cast like rally against her and trying to like think about what that says about like how I consume this. And really just thinking in terms of like a character, where does Ariana go from here? She's got nowhere to go but like down in terms of a journey. She could stay in the same pedestal that she's on and like live there. I don't think that's a

compelling thing to watch in television. Obviously, I mean, this is me separating Ariana the character from Ariana, the person that plays her. And I think that the journey that is most interesting for me to watch is to see a downfall. She's got nowhere, nowhere higher to go from here than, uh, than where she is now. So the, the logical arc for her is to have a downfall. So I would be curious to see how that plays out because I think that, you know, the, the storytellers behind this would easily be able to identify that and how they, um, how they manage that with also this

this status that Ariana has, you know, above the show. Like, she has been hoisted over, like, outside of the show. And she is this symbol, as Schwartz identifies, this patron saint of scorn women. How do they navigate the fact that she still is on this platform, but her journey as a character,

like that arc can only really go one way from there. So I'm very curious to see how this plays out. Yeah, she needs to sleep with Peter, I think is what you're saying. Yeah. No, I said she's only got somewhere down to go.

She can only go down. But also, let's not forget, they did introduce a new beau for her too. So that'll be interesting. we see more of that because yeah it obviously her arc does need to go somewhere it can't just stay where it is now i don't see it necessarily needs to lead to a downfall but that could be like very dramatically interesting if like some resentment makes some people turn against her like i was saying but exploring a new relationship could be another avenue for her uh her to continue to develop and just to get some more interesting area on the stuff instead of her just being kind of in a little protective bubble in a way where um where she's not really involved in the drama yeah true Dylan, did you have any other highlights from this episode?

We've already discussed it, but I want to keep talking about Lala, who is the star of the episode, I think, because this is just really interesting to me. And you know, I'm a big Lala guy. And I just find it very, like, she's just a very, very sensitive person. Like, often the loudest people are actually the most sensitive people. And I think that's something that's very true with Lala. and it's just really interesting and moving for me to see her like grapple with these impulses where she's like really been towing the line with being kind of one of the girls and presenting United Front against, against Rachel and Sandoval, especially against Rachel. And of course, being an attack dog because that's kind of like what's expected of her in a way.

But we also know that with Lala, she's very wounded and sensitive about having been ostracized. from being like one of the girls in the past like she's been really been treated as somebody who kind of isn't part of the clique and isn't like yeah isn't on the side of the girls and I think that's always been a really sore spot for her. I mean she's talked about that a lot she's very very sensitive about that so it's obviously a very big deal for her to start somewhat swimming against the current that's not something that she's going to do easily because she is She is very, like, scarred and afraid of not being one of the girls where she is in a position right now, where she is kind of really accepted by Katie, Ariana and Sheena, which hasn't always been the case. And it's, I think it's very hard for her to kind of break with them in any way.

So it's really interesting to see her grapple with her empathy and her feeling that she can't shake that looking at Raquel. She's seeing a lot of the things that she went through when she was Raquel's age when she was younger. Rachel's age, sorry. But that feeling of like associating herself with Rachel and with Rachel's situation on the one hand and seeing herself as a younger woman in her place and wanting to be like helpful in a way that maybe she didn't feel like she'd been helped when she was in that position versus now being an older woman in a more like socially stable position and not wanting to jeopardize that because it's been such a sore spot. for her of being ostracized in the past. And I just think that's a really, really fascinating dynamic. And I do find it very, like, emotional too. Yeah, totally.

Because her social position, that is like, that's not like a natural born position that she has. That's like, that's earned ground. She entered this, this group as, as an outsider and had to earn her spot. And so for her to grapple with these emotions that she, got and try to go against grain. Like you said, that's, that's very challenging for, for her to deal with. So yeah, I think that that adds a whole element of dimension to her character.

That's going to be really interesting to, um, to watch. And going into the season, I was not expecting Lala to be, you know, the most compelling character, night one. I was, you know, kind of expecting more of the same. And we got, we got your, your favorite. Good Lala on screen. And so, yeah,

um, never know which way you're going to get. Yeah. Well, hopefully, hopefully like this growth that we have seen is something that is something that is going to continue this, um,

this season because like you said, when Lala is good, she's, she's great. Yeah. And I mean, it won't. She's going to continue to like,

have really terrible takes too. Like, she's going to continue to, to waffle around. But, uh, that's, that's why she's a fascinating character too.

And I also just want to point that I really enjoyed how she was saying, like, how she really needs to work on her emotional regulation and stuff. And she's like struggling to control her emotions. But she says that it's instead of saying like that's because that's what I need for my own will being. She says, or else everyone is fucked. I found that really funny. It's a strategy of emotional containment. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Did you have any other highlights, Dylan? Um, okay, one more Lala point. Like the little, um, metaphor relating to orcas, orcas, a pot of orcas. Yeah. That's a little bit of, uh, cetacean knowledge just thrown in there. Good stuff. Good stuff. When she started saying, like, we're like a pot of orcas.

I expected her to go with like the fact that orcas are matriarchal society. Uh, and was surprised when instead she went with, you know, Orcas generally gain members to their pods but do not lose members in their pods, which is mostly true. And that's a fun little metaphor there. Oh, nice. Yeah. Always love the marine biology fact check that you provide us. You know that I was going to be right on that as soon as somebody makes a whale metaphor.

I didn't even bother marking that down. I knew you were going to handle that. Yeah, I think we touched on a lot of my highlights, but we haven't really talked about my fave, James. So I'm curious what you guys thought about James so far. One of the things that I really enjoyed was seeing him enter this episode in a place where he's like, he's on a high, he's got his shit together, he's got a house now. He's the guy with the pool.

And in very like, the way he's, presented is like yeah he's he's he's got it all together but i love that the the shady hint that we get from production that you know this is still this pattern that james has of you know being like oh i've got everything together everything is great smooth sailing but then there's like slowly cracks emerging and we got that where he's like oh this house is great you know it's perfect and then alie's like yeah but we live right by the airport and there's constant like airplane rumbulled in the background or like when they're talking about like building their life together and they're like physically building furniture they're having this this discussion while a plane is like flying

overhead and we get the shot of the plane and just showing all these like these subtle cracks that that we can probably see where you know james is painting over all of all of the cracks and um pretending everything is okay we also get uh he's talking to schwartz I think, and he's about how he's sober. He's like, oh, no, this is not from Ali. It's all me. And they throw in a little thing from last season of Ali being like, I don't like it when you drink.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, totally. I like James in this episode, which normally I don't. But just to give him a little bouquet, I thought the man looked pretty good. Maybe it's the no drinking, but he had a nice pair of glasses. You know, good little outfit when he saw Schwartz, except for the fact that it was buttoned like his breastbone.

So good for you, James. Sure. I like that he's like saying that he's, he's sober and then it's like, well, it's California sober. I smoke a little bit of weed. And then describes smoking weed all day. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Well, you got to have some kind of release. Yeah. You can't just drink six espressoes every day. Well, you need the hippie speedball. to balance out. Yeah. So question, Dylan. What do you think was a better impression?

The Clinton impression that Tom Schwartz did in his confessional or Raquel's Stadler and Wolthorff impression from last season? Well, I mean, Raquel did prop comedy. So that's great. But Schwartz's Clinton was surprisingly very good, I thought. I thought that was a really good Clint. I thought he really nailed that. So, yeah.

Yeah. That was the better one. I think Schwartz was probably a class clown in middle school and he'd be the right age where that like killed with his teachers. Oh, yeah. He's workshopped that like over the past 20 years. Yeah. Yeah. 45, I guess.

Yeah. I like that he chose that as a way to exonerate himself when it's like Clinton basically lying on her own. Can you perjure yourself? on Bravo. Yeah. Did you guys have any other highlights? I like that Sheena's parenting strategy is just lying

apparently. Yeah, just pure manipulation. Yeah, she used the potty. Run with it. We'll say she did. She parents, like, it's a reality show, like trying to manipulate the situation. It's all about appearances.

Yeah. I think we covered most of my highlights. Let's get into our picks for All-Stars. So if you're going to draft someone to your Bravo fantasy team, who are you picking? Yeah. I just realized I wanted to point out one weird thing I forgot to about Sandoval. Why did he block a toddler on social media?

Sean, do you really think Sons? Abermoon is running her own account. I get that it's weird to like make a account for your toddler, but I think it's more weird to block a toddler as well. I don't think it's that weird because that's a Xena alternate account, right? He's blocking her various alternate accounts. That doesn't seem that weird to me. I guess if Shina is, yeah, is like spamming him from it.

But the optics of blocking a three year old are great to me. Sure, but it's like it's not her account. Yeah. But also like it would. also be weird if he blocked Sheena and the podcast about not I still want to see the summer mood

it would be way funny if you'd be just block summer mood that would be the funniest thing to do well I would be sending close friends stories for my trip to New Zealand um yeah let's go let's go with our

picks uh Sean who who's on your team uh Well, to go third star is going to be, actually James, second star, Schwartz, first star, Lala. Right on, yeah. That's bang on with mine as well. How about you doing? Yeah, I think it's hard to argue with Lala as being the star and Schwartz as being the runner-up. And third star to the weevil or beetle.

Very convincing playing dead. And he's probably been doing that for weeks. And Schwartz is just like, yeah, you're so good at this. You sure you don't want some of this kiwi I chopped up for you? Okay, maybe next week. I'll change my third pick. And just to keep things interesting, on the topic of playing dead, we did get like a few frames of Ken just like shuffling through the bar and the hero shots that way gone.

Yeah, he's not playing dead. he's playing alive. Yeah. He doesn't get a hero shot. He gets just like a little B roll standing behind the counter. Yeah. He's still here. Just like so awkwardly moving.

It almost looks like he like is like shuffling and not aware that he's bumping into tables and just like jittering around the room. Yeah. Glad to see he's still kicking though. That's good. Good to see. Yeah, I think that about does it. Any final thoughts before we wrap things up here?

just that I'm excited to see what happens to see Dad Bod can and everything else. Yeah, I can't wait to see the sandball thrown into the mix and see his, his, you know, like, you know, strenuous grieving, I'm sorry, expressions and that tone of voice he always uses. I can't wait for that to enter the discussion. Yeah, totally. All right. Well, thank you so much for doing this, Sean. Do you want to let people know where they can find you?

Or if you don't want them to find you, do you have anything that you want to recommend to them? I'm pretty hungry, so I'm going to recommend Goodlands Cafe in Winnipeg, so I'm going to get lunch from there. It's on Sargent. It's good for lawful. There you go. If you're in Winnipeg, Goodlands.

Dylan, how about you? You can find me writing about movies on Substack, Dylan Ferguson. Just look for Dylan Ferguson on there. I should be having my ranking of the, Academy Awards Best Picture Nominees up there pretty soon. Just got one more I got to see. Right on.

I'm Craig Midwinter. You can't really find me. Oh, I did get a letterboxed this week. So I'm going to start like at least rating and logging the movies that I'm watching. So if you like that, I think I'm Craig J. Midwinter on there. So give me a follow.

But yeah, I'm on social media just on Instagram as our Bravo Outsider account. So you can find me there. Oh, or if you're on Peloton, I got a Peloton and I'm on the Peloton Bravo Squad. There's an Instagram account for that too, which you should follow.

So if you want to join the Peloton, you can maybe find me there. Nice. What's that at Andrew? Yeah. Yeah. Until next week, keep on wiping.