Breaking News from Pod Save America - Former Prince Andrew Arrested in Epstein Scandal

Episode Date: February 20, 2026

Tommy and Ben break down the monumental arrest of Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor (formerly Prince Andrew) for misconduct in public office. They cover Andrew’s long and sordid association with Jeffrey Epstein, what the police are investigating, and why accountability for being part of Epstein's network hasn’t crossed the pond. CHECK OUT OUR SPONSOR: ZBIOTICS - http://zbiotics.com/CROOKEDNEWS CODE: CROOKEDNEWS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All right, Ben, we have some truly historic news breaking out of the UK today. The creep formerly known as Prince Andrew was arrested for suspicion of misconduct in public office. We're going to dig into what we think those charges mean where they could have stemmed from in a bit. But it's just hard to overstate the significance of this moment in British history. We are talking about the late Queen's son, King Charles's brother being arrested. His homes were searched. He may have been held in a jail cell. And this was the first arrest of a royal.

since King Charles I first in 1647. Spoiler alert, that didn't end well. Didn't end well for King Charles I was beheaded in 1649. So that's not the not the ideal precedent for Andrew. Now we're not suggesting that this is going to lead to the death penalty, although if there were, you know, justice in this world, it might. So Ben, you are our long-serving Pod Save the World Royal correspondent. What's your reaction to this dark day for the royal family? What are your sources telling you about the impact in Windsor Castle?

in Windsor Castle. Well, Charles doesn't seem to have a lot of love for his brother, love lost for his brother. So I mean, look, I think, number one, this is the first form of accountability like this that we've seen for the Epstein files, right? Other than Galane Maxwell, no one else has gone to prison for the awful crimes that were committed against women and girls by this kind of Epstein network. And it's notable that it's happening in the UK, not in the United States. But I don't think this will be the last.

And I'm curious when they get into these investigations where the threads lead to. Me too. Right? Because whatever Andrew is doing, whatever their documents are looking at or hard drives are exporting, I have to think that that might lead to other places, right? So the more that, and you and I both said this, the more that these other governments take up the Epstein investigations in a way that the Trump administration refuses to, the roads could still lead back to the United States.

And look, for the world family, it is, it just shows this family kind of floated above the life of the British people forever, you know. And even if King Charles is going to distance himself from his brother, it does just kind indicate like this family, the bloom is off the rose, shall we say. They're not beyond the reach of accountability. people have now seen someone fall from the heights of these palaces and this kind of strange existence to a jail cell. And so I do think it kind of cuts the royal family down to size. And coming after everything from, you know, what happened with Princess Diana, I mean, this is the rural correspondent in me,

these kind of series of scandals that have rocked the royal family. I don't know, Tommy, maybe we'll get another season of the crown out of this. No, that's a good point. Yeah. But I too, it's been remarkable the degree of which you like, well, I can read the full statement from the king. And he said, I've learned with the deepest concern in the news about Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor and suspicion of misconduct in public office. What now follows is the full, fair, and proper process by which this issue was investigated in the appropriate manner and by the appropriate authorities. In this, as I've said before, they have our full and wholehearted support and cooperation.

Let me state clearly, the law must take its course. As this process continues, it would not be right for me to comment further on the. this matter. Meanwhile, my family and I will continue in our duty and service to you all. Prime Minister Kierce Armour said nobody is above the law. So I do think, Ben, there was probably a period of time in British history where they would have circled the wagons. They would have taken whatever steps they needed to do to kind of rig the process to ensure that there was no further accountability or maybe even news reports and just, you know, protect the royal family. It does not seem like that's what's happening here. It doesn't. And it does speak to changes

in British society, because I don't see this happening, you know, 20 years ago. Look, this didn't happen after the first round of allegations about Andrew Mountain Batten, whatever he's called now. You know, there was a lot of smoke there, you know, when those first pictures came out and those first allegations came out and they stripped him of his first round of titles, but they didn't go to this place. And what is striking to me in that statement, you know, Charles obviously trying to do the right thing. But, you know, it puts the rural family under the rule of the law, which is right, but is frankly just not how it's been. It's not how it's been done in the UK. So I think it does show that something is shifted

inside that system and, you know, the world family is not beyond the reach of the rule of law. And I don't know. I'm not saying this is the that I have allegations of other crimes, but I mean, you know, this sets a precedent where if there's. you know, some instance or hint of wrongdoing by a royal, now we know that this can happen. Yeah, sure seems like a good thing. Just a little background and context for folks. So Andrew says he met Epstein in 1999 via Galane Maxwell. In 2001 through 2002, that period, Andrew allegedly had sex with one of Epstein's victims, a woman named Virginia Joufrey. Jufre later accused Andrew of sexually abusing her three different times when she was only 17.

In 2010, Andrew claimed he'd ended his friendship with Epstein. However, we now know from subsequent document releases that that was a lie. There's this trail of emails that include forwarding along confidential information about investment opportunities. In 2022, Jufrey sued Andrew. He settled that case but didn't take responsibility, but he did pay her some sort of sum. So his position was basically, I have no recollection of meeting this person. I can't even confirm that this photo of us together is authentic or real. However, I will pay a huge settlement to try to make the story go away.

It's a tough position to hold. In 2025, like you said, Ben, Andrew was stripped of his titles and he's forced to move out of his palace into a slightly smaller palace. And then in January of 26th, there was this, you know, the DOJ release of Epstein files that we've all been talking about, like the 3.5 million files, which included these emails that Andrew sent as trade envoy, which seems to be what's getting him in legal trouble and what got him arrested on his 66th birthday. Ben, to your point about these guys no longer being above the law, I mean, the police statement on Andrew's arrest is so remarkable to me in how matter of fact and low key it is. This is a quote. On Thursday, we arrested a man in his 60s from Norfolk on suspicion of misconduct in public office. The arrested man has now been released under investigation. We can also confirm that our searches in Norfolk have now concluded. The man in his 60s is the brother of the king.

Yes. And look, This is, you know, hundreds, thousands of years in which this hasn't happened, you know. So it's a big seismic moment. And the matter of fact, nature of it only underscores that, you know, they're trying to make this seem routine, but it's anything but. I think we should say Virginia Jufre, who's no longer with us because of, you know, she committed suicide tragically. this is definitely a validation for all of her efforts. She was of all these survivors. She really broke through in her willingness to challenge, to file lawsuits.

And so while her life ended tragically, there is accountability for what she called out. I also think it's important to note that why did Epstein hang out with Andrew in the first place? He clearly liked to have, you know, Andrew around because he indicated kind of that Epstein was in the highest potential global social circles. The British Royal Families kind of seen as, you know, inhabiting those circles. But also because it probably conveyed to some of these girls and women that he had impunity. Look at me. I'm hanging out with, you know, the queen's son. Like, you can't mess with me.

I'm beyond the reach. If you're thinking twice about whether to go tell somebody about what's happening. here, you don't across these powerful men that I know. And so in a way, it retroactively kind of shatters that aura of impunity that Epstein sought to create around him. So in that way, it's kind of finally dealing a blow to this idea that not just in the UK, but globally, there are these people that can get away with anything. And in some places they still can, unfortunately, those places may include the United States for now. But this should be seen as a warning sign to other people in elite circles that you know what you know what like you can end up paying for your your sins even if

it's not for for years yeah and it certainly explodes this idea that like just by being in these elite circles that you are somehow credentialed and good and okay which is clearly sort of like how Epstein broadened his circle right like he would invite Prince Andrew to a dinner and then some other person that he wanted to target and kind of bring into the fold or get money from and sort of use those connections it's also clear that Prince Andrew um welcomed uh Epstein the inner circle. Like, I think he, like, had dinner at Windsor Palace. There's emails where Epstein was saying, like, should I bring X and Y young model girl? And Andrew's like, great, the more fun the better, like, you know, creepy stuff that kind of like speaks to their

behavior. And for those wondering, like, why on earth would Prince Andrew be friends with Jeffrey Epstein? It's because he was deeply in debt and needed money. And it sounds like they traded favors and helped each other in that sense. By the way, Virginia Joufrey has a book out last year called Nobody's Girl, a memoir of surviving abuse and fighting for justice that lays out her side of the story. But Ben, so this trade minister job for folks who are wondering what we're talking about. So Andrew, he left the Navy, I think. He was in the military in the UK. And then he became this trade special representative for the country from 2001 to 2011. It's kind of like a nebulous unpaid job. You'd like promote UK's trade agenda abroad. That could mean helping British companies

get contracts or enter foreign markets, it can mean engaging with foreign governments or business leaders. And according to the BBC, emails from this new batch of Epstein Docks show Prince Andrew passing on reports of visits to Singapore, Hong Kong, and Vietnam, and confidential details of investment opportunities. And all of that is supposed to be kept confidential and not disclose. So if this stuff's all in email, it seems like they'll have them. them dead to rights, but we can kind of get into the challenges of charging this crime in a minute. But also, if this is true for Andrew, like, didn't Mandelson, Peter Mandelson, the former ambassador to the U.S. from the UK, do exactly the same thing? It seems like he's in deep shit, too.

That's right. And actually, first of all, Tommy, we'll have to pull the threat on this more, but I saw some indications that maybe Peter Mandelson helped Andrew get that job as a kind of fake trade rep, you know? Well, again, you know, well, you have to sort through these things to know what is real and what's not. But Mandelson was obviously in Tony Blair's inner circle at the time at this point went through. I think what's important, though, is that there are different levels of crimes revealed in these Epstein files. Again, you can't say enough that the worst and most horrific crimes were the trafficking of these girls, the sexual abuse of these girls, everything that happened in that space. There is a second category of crimes that is important and interesting as well, which is

he built this network, Epstein did, of global elites, and then they used that network to enrich themselves further or to empower themselves further. So it's like, yeah, I have this role in the British government as a trade rep, if I'm Prince Andrew, or I have this role as Peter Mandelson, and I'm just going to pass you this sensitive information or this market-based information. And that's how they were able to kind of perpetuate their wealth and their power. And I think if you can, I really think it's important for governments, and I wish the U.S. government would do this, but I have no hope in the Trump DOJ, would try to really go after that. Like, how do the rich and powerful do each other favors that are illegal?

It's not legal to share sensitive government information outside of the, Jeffrey Epstein was in the British government. Clearly, he's getting that information so he can profit off of it in some way financially. And so I think that this opens up a whole new front of how to think about criminal accountability among this EPSC network because these people were using their positions to share information that they weren't supposed to share in order to kind of perpetuate their status, their wealth. Now, one of the problems, and we may get into it is the time that's elapsed, right? There's kind of statute of limitations issues. Yeah, I was surprised they didn't really have a statute of limitations, especially on something like this,

which, like, it's not murder. It's, you know, it's usually a contract that's, like, a five-year statute, right? But, like, maybe the UK, their system doesn't have that. I think the UK system's a little different. You know, the American system is going to make this harder. But I still think, like, it would be good to expose all this. I mean, not to be that guy, Tommy, but if we were in normal times in the United States, you know, you would have, like, a special commission or something.

It would be, even if you can't criminally hold people accountable because of statutes of limitations, I think it's necessary to document all these crimes and what all these men did in the sex trafficking space, but also in this kind of trading and inside information space, because that's the kind of behavior that has caused people around the world to completely lose faith in elites and institutions and systems. And so I think it's worth excavating all this stuff. Yeah, look, I agree with you. Unfortunately, in the Trump era, like this kind of misconduct in public office charges why these creeps are taking these jobs, right? Like, it's what they're doing.

Like a guy like Rick Cornell, he's going around the world pretending to be like Trump's guy to get business deals and enrich himself. But here we are. So the specific charge is called misconduct in public office and a little bit of context about the crime that comes to us via the financial times. It can carry a maximum sentence of life imprisonment. But it has not been defined by statute. It's like a common law offense. It's been developed by judges over hundreds of years. Like we were saying before, Peter Mandelson would be the first former UK government minister to be convicted.

of the offense, according to legal experts they talked to. But also, like, no politician in modern history has been convicted of this crime. It's more likely used to provide some accountability to crooked cops, like police who have sexual relationships with the victims of crimes or with suspects. There's other examples, like going after bishops for sex offenses or there was a ministry of defense official who got like a kickback and that person I think was prosecuted under this. It does seem challenging, though, Ben, to get a conviction. So the suspect must be acting in their capacity as a public officer at the time of the alleged misconduct.

And the officeholder must have acted willfully, like they deliberately did something wrong or they were indifferent to the consequences. And then the prosecution must also demonstrate that there was, quote, no reasonable excuse. And they need to demonstrate that the alleged misconduct amounted to an abuse of the public trust, meaning it was serious enough to warrant a criminal prosecution rather than like just some other disciplinary sanction. That last bullet to me seems like the hardest one. Like if Prince Andrew is forwarding along, I think investment opportunities in Afghanistan was one of the things he sent to Epstein, it's hard for me to understand why that's some sort of, I don't know, like a true criminal

offense. But I don't know. What did you think kind of reading through the specifics? I think it basically boils down to whether or not Andrew was providing information to Jeffrey Epstein that he wouldn't otherwise have had except for his government role, which is this kind of trade representative role, right? And so it's like the Mandelson thing. Mandelson knew things about a bank bailout package that he wouldn't have known if he wasn't in the government. Hence it's sensitive information. Yeah, that one seems open and shut. Yeah, if Andrew's like traveling around as a, as whatever he was, like a fake prince, you know, like, and didn't have this government role and just kind of, oh, hey, here's an investment opportunity in Afghanistan, well, that wouldn't be illegal. But if he had

knowledge of something because of a government function that he was performing, it seems like this would apply to him. And again, that gets to the clubby nature of what these guys had been doing, whether they have sensitive inside, you know, it's insider trading, right, essentially, right, on a massive scale, because it's insider trading either with information you know because of your role in a corporation or a financial institution or it's insider trading based on the role that you play in a government. And just I think governments have probably tolerated way too much of this garbage for way too long and it leads to the kind of mass scale corruption that we see in this Epstein network. Pod Save America Breaking News is brought to you by Zbiotics

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But Singapore. I mean, Singapore. Yeah, no, some of these things may be, like, we don't know. We don't know. We don't know also. It's worth noting the economist says there could be possible additional charges. So they said that police are assessing whether to investigate allegations that Epstein trafficked a woman to the Winter Castle estate on Andrew's behalf.

That would obviously be a huge deal in an additional charge. So, Ben, in 2019. Andrew, then Prince Andrew, did this interview with the BBC's News Night program about Jeffrey Epstein. I think this was his like PR effort to put it to bed. It was a train wreck at the time. But knowing what we know now, it wasn't just the performance and the callousness with which he came across that was so bad. It was that Andrew lied his way through this thing.

So I went back and I watched the whole 44 minutes of it today. It is as bad as advertised. but let's watch a quick sort of super cut and then discuss kind of the lies in the bullshit within. You said you went to break up the relationship and yet you stayed at that New York mansion several days. I'm wondering how long... But I was doing a number of other things while I was there.

But you were staying at the house of a convicted sex offender? It was a convenient place to stay. You regret the whole friendship with Epstein. Now, still not. And the reason being is that the... The people that I met and the opportunities that I was given to learn either by him or because of him were actually very useful.

Was that visit December of 2010 the only time you saw him after he was convicted? Did you see him or speak to him again? No, that was that. That was it. Okay, so right off the jump, saying it was a convenient place to stay. about Jeffrey Epstein's house is just an insane thing to say. He claims that this was like a breakup trip. Like he went over there because he wanted to be a man about it and like not just phone him and say,

hey, we can't hang out anymore. But then he stayed at the guy's house for four days. That was all disclosed in that interview. And the anchor there is just as incredulous as you and I are. Also crazy to me that in 2019 when that interview happened, he wouldn't say he like regrets knowing Jeffrey Epstein and said that the contacts were, quote, like actually very useful, which again makes Andrew just sound like he's treating human beings like objects, right, for like his use. But just to get into the factual lies, like Andrew claims

to have cut all ties with Epstein in 2010. We know now that they were in touch until 2018. They were just passing along messages through a business associate named Andrew Stern. Andrew Stern was a business advisor to Andrew to Ben Prince Andrew. Epstein introduced Sarah Ferguson, Andrew's wife, to Stern. He helped her with this plan to consolidate their debt. And an email that recently came out has in 2018 Epstein email Stern, who's en route to Singapore to meet with Andrew and says, give him a hug. So it doesn't sound like they've cut ties there. And then the Wall Street Journal reported that months after Epstein was released in 2009,

he got an email from, quote, the Duke saying it had been far too long in asking to use his apartment in Paris. So again, that's before the 2010 timeframe. But just like the closeness of the relationship. is coming out through all these emails. And then also we learned that Sarah Ferguson has visited Epstein while he was serving his sentence and then brought her daughters to visit him at lunch at his house in Palm Beach. And they were emailing about money issues.

So it's just like the levels of bullshit that this guy was trying to spin in this interview, it's unbelievable. Yeah, I mean, putting aside that that is the worst answer in the history of interviews, you can't just be like, of course I regret it. You know, that's remarkable to me. There are two other things that stand out to me, though, about his behavior. The first thing is that whether it's Andrew or any of these men, I mean, I think every one of these men, it seems like the classic example of people who do not regret their behavior, they regret being caught.

Absolutely. And because it's like you can ask yourself, well, how could he just lie like that? Well, it's because he thought more emails weren't going to come out, you know? how could Howard Lutnik, the commerce secretary in the United States, lie and say he cut off all ties with Epstein after he went to his house, and then we find out he went to his island after that. Well, it's because these people, yeah, with these people just clearly, the thing they regret is their emails coming out and getting caught. They don't seem to show any contrition about what actually happened. And by the way, you know that because none of these men have owned up to fucking anything.

I mean, you really want to believe that Jeffrey Epstein is the only one who is committing grotesque sexual assault and abuse with girls and women when all these other men were in the island or at the house. I mean, give me a break. So they just, that's what they see. It's offensive to me, the degree to which they can't be like, you know what, I really fucked up. It's got, they just seemed pissed that they got found out. The other thing is the rural family, and here, we'll take a shot.

Like, who on earth is minding the store about these people? I don't know. Because you would think that someone would say to Andrew, including, by the way, MI6 or MI5 or whomever, hey, this guy's a convicted sex offender, what are you doing hanging out with him? What are you doing associating with him? Like, clearly there was just so much room given to Andrew to just continue to be a complete and utter train wreck of a human being associating with Jeffrey Epstein.

And it calls into question, like, who's doing due diligence for the rural family? Who's, like, minding what these guys are doing? Some of these advisors, like Andrew Stern, seem like they were more intent on leveraging the royal family for their own purposes than they were protecting these people. I mean, and I'm not saying this with sympathy of the rural family. It's just like they may need to give some thought into how to make sure this institution doesn't, not just engage in crimes, but engage in just embarrassing associations and conduct going forward. Yeah, I just want to quickly push back on your claim that one of the answers

we watched was the worst answer in interview history because later in this same interview, he has asked about an allegation by Virginia Jufre that like, you know, the first night they, that he sexually abused her, they like went to clubs. He was buying her drinks. He was covered in sweat and disgusting. And she sort of like paints a very vivid picture of the story. And he pushes back on her on the, on the allegation saying, well, in fact, that can't be true because you just described me as sweaty. And I have a medical condition or had it at the time at least that made it so that he could not sweat because he got shot at in the Falklands War and it did something to the way his adrenaline worked and he no longer got sweaty. This is the thing this man

actually said in this interview with a straight face. And this shows, again, the weirdness of having a real family because clearly he believed. leaves he can get away with anything, including a complete bullshit line like that, because he has gone away with everything. Like the world family thinks that the rules don't apply to them, and that's how he was behaving. And it's utterly absurd. Also, I think, you know, they were kind of attacking the credibility of Virginia Jufre. Oh, absolutely.

Who clearly was sexually assaulted. I mean, she was 17 years old and, like, essentially entrapped in Jeffrey Epstein's perverted, disgusting world, you know? And again, these men, like people like Andrew were like, you know, kind of calling into question her credibility instead of their own and thinking they could get away with crazy stories like the, my Falklands, you know, injuries somehow contributed to this decades later. It's just utterly ridiculous. Yeah. I mean, there have been some, there have been some allegations made by Virginia Joufrey that ended up getting, she ended up walking them back, including against, I think, Alan Dershowitz.

But in this instance, there's a photo of them together, clearly, like, upstairs in, like, Galane Maxwell's house. It's creepy. It's weird. He's, like, touching her waist. It's this very, like, it's awful. But don't get me start on Dershowitz. Because what he would just do is take the most litigious angle possible, you know?

So it wasn't even necessarily, like, calling into question his conduct. It's like he's a lawyer who burrows in on, like, the one thing that he can pull a threat on, you know? So we'll deal with Alan Dishwith later. I just hope he never gets a parogi again. Me too. Refuse that man access to all parogis going forward. So, Ben, we were talking about this this morning. You mentioned that former prime minister, Gordon Brown,

is playing an interesting role here. He seems to have, like, come out of retirement. He's going through the Epstein files. He might be kind of helping call out or drop a dime on mail. Like a little Scotland yard. Yeah, yeah. What did you see? What's going on with Gordon Brown?

I mean, you know, Gordon Brown, was turning over like whatever files he could, whatever dossier he could, in a constructive way, not like he'd been hiding it. Like, I want to be a part of this. I want to be a part of creating accountability. And I think I'll just say this. And like our British listeners can, you know, let us know this tracks. But it's kind of interesting, Tony Blair, who is like, you know, one part of this duo with Gordon Brown, has gone on to be this mega grifter, you know, vacuuming up money across the Gulf in Central Asia and joining the board of peace. Gordon Brown has lived a, let's just say, like a slightly more humble existence, and, and, you know, seems to have

earnest desire to hold the power to account. So good on Gordon Brown, man. Like, like, I'd like to see more people who are in positions of power do what he did, which is like, can I go back and find anything that can contribute to this investigation? Like, that's how people should behave. Yeah, no, that is definitely the right thing to do, a noble thing to do. It has probably also helps. I think Gordon Brown hates Peter Mandelson's guts. Yeah, yeah. He was talking shit about him and then some of these emails that came out. But you know, look, good for him for doing the right thing.

Finally, Ben, like this arrest of Prince Andrew, former Prince Andrew does once again highlight the fact that the only accountability we're seeing, at least from government officials, is coming from abroad and not back in the United States. And just to drive home that point, President Trump was asked about Andrews' arrest on Air Force 1 earlier today, and this is what he had to say. Our Prince Andrew, arrested by the police fair, related to something with Jeffrey Epstein. Do you think people in this country at some point, associates of Jeffrey Epstein, will wind up in handcuffs too? Well, you know, I'm the expert in a way because I've been totally exonerated.

That's very nice. I can actually speak about it very nicely. I think it's a shame. I think it's very sad. I think it's so bad for the royal family. It's a very, very sad. To me, it's a very sad thing. When I see that, it's a very sad thing to see it and to see what's going on with his brother,

who's obviously coming to our country very soon, and he's a fantastic man, the king. So I think it's a very sad thing. It's really interesting because nobody used to speak about Epstein when he was alive, but now they speak. But I'm the one that can talk about it because I've been totally exonerated. I did nothing. In fact, the opposite. He was against me. He was fighting me in the election, which I just found out through the last three million pages.

of that given. Okay, so just in case anyone needs a fact check there, Trump has not been totally exonerated by the Epsine files. I think he's mentioned 38,000 times. There is like serious allegations of wrongdoing and abuse contained within those files. They are uncorroborated. But it's what's clear is that his DOJ is redacting things they shouldn't redact. The documents have been withheld by the FBI, not even turned over to the FBI to then get reviewed for release. So they're breaking that law. Trump's sympathies tend to only go with the abusers. Remember, when he was asked about

Gleine Maxwell in 2020, he just said, I wish her well, frankly. I wish her well. It's obvious, just like, being a shrink with this man is not very hard. You can tell he thinks it's a slippery slope to him anytime there's real accountability. But I just thought that was such a telling,

disgusting comment. Yeah, nothing about the victims, right? He can't even manage a perfunctory comment about all these, women and girls that were trafficked and abused. He just pivots right to sympathy for the powerful man that had a downfall. By the way, the only nice thing he's ever said about Bill Clinton was like the other day when he's like, oh, it's terrible what's happened to Bill Clinton. He's a good guy. Yeah, he's just lock her up. Yeah, I mean, this guy that he's wanted to throw in prison.

And yes, it's not hard to put him on the couch and say, one, it's an indication that he's not totally exonerated because he's just trying to keep this thing at further arm's length. And he seems to be sad about Prince Andrew, about Bill Clinton, about Galane Maxwell. Like, the only common threat here is that he doesn't like people to be held accountable. And this is a big problem for the American system. This is why this should continue to be a story. Because we currently have a Department of Justice that, I mean, fucked up this case before Trump, but is not being, let's just say, as vigilant as they could in trying to

to be fully transparent. I don't trust and can't trust that they haven't held back certain Trump documents. They've redacted things. They've not opened any investigations into any of the people that were named in these files. And so unless and until that happens, I think people are right to ask questions. I also think, though, to end where we started, like, I don't think the British or the last European country that's going to open up an investigation. And that's going to give them powers to dig into this and that could lead back to Americans, including Trump, frankly, in the long run. Yeah, one can only hope.

Yeah, I'm sure you saw the Pam Bondi hearing where she was screaming about how we should be talking about the Dow and not Jeffrey Epstein's crimes. Dan Goldman, Congressman from New York asked all the witnesses to stand up and asked if any of them had been interviewed by the DOJ and they all said no. And they all said, would you like to be? Yes. But like clearly, you know, Bondi doesn't want to go down a lot of these roads. I agree with you, though, that legal processes in other countries could expose American officials to charges.

It is just, again, though, like it makes me so depressed about this country when you look at the UK where Andrews in big trouble where Peter Mandelson was pushed out of his post and now is being investigated. The Crown Princess of Norway was rebuked by the prime minister for her relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. The former prime minister was charged with corruption. Two former diplomats in Norway are facing corruption investigations. The French culture minister was pushed out of it. a job. The chair of the Swedish UN High Commission for Refugees got pushed out of the job. The Slovakian National Security Advisor was fired. The head of the Dubai Ports Company had to resign because he sent the creepiest fucking email I've ever read in my life, which was like, hey, loved the torture porn you

sent me. But in the U.S., you know, there's been some business leaders, some legal leaders. Our former colleague, Kathy Rumler left Goldman Sachs after her association with Epstein, longstanding relationship was exposed. But no one in our politics. has faced any accountability, starting with Donald Trump, who was described as Jeffrey Epstein's best friend by Jeffrey Epstein to a journalist named Michael Wolfe, who's kind of a journalist, mostly agreed. Yeah, politics seems to be the one field where, you know, this, you can evade accountability because it is coming, even in the United States and some of these others.

The one last thing I'm going to say about this, Tommy, is that if Andrew wants to do something to redeem a portion of his dignity and his family's name, you know what he could do? He could tell the whole fucking story. Yep. Because I'm sure Andrew knows stuff that is not public. Not everything is written down an email. It seems like he was around Jeffrey Epstein a lot. I'm sure he saw a lot.

Maybe this is an opportunity for Prince Andrew or Andrew Mountbatten or the artist formerly known as Andrew, whatever we call him these days, to say every single thing that he saw at Jeffrey Epstein's, every single thing he learned, point the finger of people. Why not? Right? What's left of your dignity?

salvature. You're going to prison. Now's the time to tell us what you know. That would be good. And I'm sure the minute he does that, Trump will decide to bomb around for the second time, for the third time. I don't know. We'll find out. Thanks to everybody for listening to this episode of Pots Save the World here on YouTube. If you like the show, please subscribe. It means a lot to us. It helps us grow the show and get good information into the YouTube algorithm from a progressive perspective, from a factual perspective, because usually it's just flooded with the right-wing crap. So thanks for watching. Please subscribe. And we'll talk to you soon.