Breaking News from Pod Save America - Trump Bombs In Weird, Rambling Speech To Navy

Episode Date: October 6, 2025

Jon Lovett and Jon Favreau react to Donald Trump''s bizarre speech to Navy troops and Graham Platner's fascinating response to an immigration question at a town hall. Get 50% off your new system. Visit https://simplisafe.com/crooked. There’s no safe like SimpliSafe®. CHAPTERS 0:00 - Trump's speech 9:39 - Ad break 10:14 - Graham Platner Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hi, John. Hi. Trump spoke at the Navy on its 250th anniversary this weekend. He said some wild shit. Let's take a look. But we have to take care of this little gnat that's on our shoulder called the Democrats. They want to give all of our money to illegal aliens that pour into the country. And, you know, I have a bigger heart than they do.

But the problem is when you do that, they come in by the millions. Everybody wants that. So you can't do it. So we're gnats. Presidential. In front of the military. It's interesting. on the one end you have Trump saying Democrats are like a little gnat.

You have him saying, I thought the Democrats would put up more of a fight in a speech he gave last week. And then you have Stephen Miller saying that Democrats are actually a well-organized terrorist group, basically on social media. How do you square that circle? I think they're connected because in order to swat away the gnat, what they want is a reaction from Democrats. They want like more violence in the streets. they were hoping to have more violent protests by now so that they could send in troops to actually put down violent protests. Instead, in many cities they've just been sending in troops to go pick up trash and stay around and take pictures with tourists.

I think that they are now trying to up the ante in places like Portland and Chicago because there's been like protests of ICE outside, like Broadview and outside of Chicago and Illinois. And so they want more of a reaction to justify the crackdown. I think that's how you square the circle. Yeah, it's like he's saying, like, I thought we'd have an easier time of drumming up the kind of chaos in the streets that I could use to justify sending in more troops. I'll do it anyway. Yeah, I was going to say, to be clear, you're gnats that I want to get rid of. It's the enemy from within. I mean, he's now he's talked to the military twice in the last couple weeks.

He's told generals that cities could be training grounds for troops. And now he's calling Democrats gnats. Yeah, and we're just also just blowing. and pass at this point the fact that he does this in front of the military. We talked about it a bit with the generals, but just how cavalier and consistently he is going in front of soldiers and members of the armed forces saying that Democrats are terrible, just completely partisan in front of these people. I found myself only kind of relieved that they were clapping at the beginning of whatever he said before that. But then once he said the Nats thing,

I didn't see much applause behind him. So huge. We'll take the winds where we can get them, I don't know what I'm supposed to do here. He also reminded the crowd of duty-bound people required to be there that he's a bit of a prognosticator, a bit of a Nostradamus. Let's roll the next clip. And history will never forget that it was the seals who stormed the compound at Osama bin Laden and put a bullet in his head. Remember that. And please remember I wrote about Osama bin Laden exactly one year ago, one year before he blew up the World Trade Center. And I said, you got to watch Osama bin Laden.

And the fake news would never let me get away with that statement unless it was true. But I said one year before to Pete Hankseth, I said one year before Wisby, in the book I wrote whatever the hell the title, I can't tell you. But I can tell you there's a page in there devoted to the fact that I saw somebody named him. to Osama bin Laden, and I didn't like it, and you got to take care of him. They didn't do it a year later. He blew up the World Trade Center, so we've got to take a little credit because nobody else is going to give it to me, you know, the old story. They don't give you credit, just take it yourself. Yeah, that's something your story, for sure. Can I just, there's a lot of times when Trump says something crazy that certain online

liberals will say, imagine if this was Joe Biden. And I usually tend not to agree. because Trump, Joe Biden is just sort of like a poor communicator and became a worse communicator as his presidency went on and was just stumbling all over the place. And Trump just says insane things. That to me was more like, like, that was the one of the first times I've seen Trump would be like, if that were, that sounds like something that Joe, like, if Joe Biden had done something like that, that would be it. Yeah.

That would have been it. Well, I don't have been it because you did say stuff like that. It wasn't it. I guess it was it. It wasn't it, then it was it, then it wasn't it. But yeah, it's, so, like, have you looked up where this came from? I didn't. Have you looked up where it came from?

Where is it from? So he did write a book. Sure, yeah. Or someone wrote a book. Yeah. Let me tell you, the book's, it reads just like the Jeffrey Epstein birthday letter. Well, those have an outline. It doesn't have an, yeah, of Osama bin Laden, no.

And it said, and it was written in 2000. And at some point, he says, you know, there's, he's, he's talking, about what the government has screwed up and our leadership is bad, which of course is his theme all through life. And he said that, you know, on one hand, our government goes in and finds someone named Osama bin Laden

and attacks his camp in Afghanistan when he commits him to... And then suddenly we forget him out of him the next year. That was it. It was like a kind of a throwaway line in a book. Look, he's talking about it as if... I'm guessing it was like when Clinton in 99 tried to

like blow up some camps in Africa. And then, and then, you know, the first World Trade Center attack. Well, the first World Trade Center attack years before. Right. And then there was some attack, there was some effort to go after Bin Laden. And then, of course, in the months leading up to 9-11, there was a famous memo that said, the system, that, that, that, uh, Al-Qaeda determined to attack within the United States, to that effect.

And did you know that memo was actually written by Donald Trump? It was. He was the one who said the, the, the system is blinking red. The trees are on fire. That was Donald Trump. Yeah, he's talking about it like he saw the Beatles on the top of the barbershop. You know, like he's talking about it. Like, he's like, ah, this kid bin Laden, he's going places.

You know where his mind was going there, right? Is that someone put in his speech that, to say good things about the seals because they took out bin Laden. But as he's saying it, he realizes, oh, shit, that was Obama that did that. I need credit. I can't give credit to Obama. I also need to take credit. There we go. And he's told so many stories so many times.

he actually forgets the details of this grievance. He forgets the details of how he is personally responsible for letting the world know about bin Laden because he hasn't told the story in a while. And the system's not working as well as it used to. Right? He's not able to... He needs to defrag his hard drive a little bit.

And so it's like he's jitting around trying to find... Need credit. Some story about how I got credit that I made up and I don't know how Hegseth's involved at all. Yeah, he says to him, it was like, I was just telling Pete Hegseth... Where? And years ago? It was a bit... Yes, it was. He got a bit addled in there.

Crazy pants. But you know what? That's because we don't appreciate the platform on which Donald Trump is running. Let's roll the next one. He was my doctor in the White House, and I got to know him very well. He was also the doctor for Barack Hussein Obama. Have you heard of him? And he was the doctor for a man named Bush.

And at a press conference, they asked him. him, who's in the best shape, who's the healthiest, who's the strongest, who's the best physical specimen of the three? He said, that's easy. President Donald Trump, and I said, I love this guy. I said, I love him.

Ronnie Jackson, he's now a congressman, as you know. Man, he got some, clearly he got some really good pills from Dr. Ronnie. Yeah, Dr. Ronnie, he was like, his teeth are shining bright from all the way from down here. Yeah, he got some great, great, uh, great, uh, great,

He gets his uppers. He gets his downers. It's funny. This is a version of a joke. He also just sort of, he's not at his best today. This is a joke he does about how he sometimes is, it's the one area where he allows himself to be a little self-deprecating, where he kind of makes fun of his physical appearance. Yeah. Sort of missing the self-deprecate, missing the humor part.

This time, yeah. And for what, however, however he wants to tell the joke, because you could imagine a version of the joke where clearly he's not a physical specimen. Yeah, and not in better shape. Which he knows. Yeah, and is joked about. The interesting thing is the cry. response, which is not laughter, which would be the normal response to someone making a self-temperkating joke about their weight compared to Barack Obama, who looks like Donald Trump. And instead it's, yes, yes, sir, absolutely, absolutely. You are a physical specimen. Well, also, isn't it also part of this is like...

Very fucking Pollittboro. Right. Well, it's also like, like, I know, this is the kind of doctor you want. The doctor that will be asked a question to compare patients will do it and will lie while doing it on your behalf. Until not a, not a like a HIPAA thing style lie, like a very obvious anyone can look at the two of them lie. Yeah, but that's different. He's not like, oh, he lied. He looked at the medical. HIPAA.

He looked at the medical records. I could see, yeah. I could see a member of Congress putting out a letter to like the AMA calling for Ronnie Jackson's license to be revoked because he violated HIPAA by saying that Barack Obama's in more shamed than Donald Trump. Donald Trump, the physical plane. that he's running on there. The embodiment of he's basically a cheeseburger.

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Now, before we go, I want to do one more clip. You know, this speech is another example, just Trump is rambling. He's also doing something. He's also referring to Democrats as Nats. He's doing incredibly partisan things in front of the military. At the same time, we have really harrowing news about what's happening in our cities as Trump's crackdown continues and they continue to push the boundaries and kind of try to make us as a society comfortable with basically military permanently in our cities. It can be hard to figure out what to respond to.

It's also hard to figure out how to respond and not just for politicians, but for us as individuals and how to react in such a toxic political environment. when Trump knows what he's doing is divisive. He knows he's stirring people up. And Graham Platner was asked about immigration over the weekend and an event in which he gave such a fascinating and interesting response, something you would never see from a politician. And I want us to talk about it.

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Start selling on D-pop, where taste, recognizes taste. If you listen to what she was saying, just hear me out. If you listen to what she was saying, at its core, is angry about the exact same things you are. People are propagandized, people are misinformed, but people are not stupid. And we shouldn't treat them as such. People are angry because they know they're being screwed. They might get lied to.

They might get taken in. If somebody robs your neighbor's house, you don't go over there and laugh at them afterwards. They've been taken advantage of it. And that's what this is. People are being robbed. They're being robbed of their critical thinking. They're being robbed of their empathy.

The answer to that is not shame. The answer to that is not anger. The answer to that is empathy and compassion. You know, my test on whether you understand politics in 2025 is whether you like that or whether you were like, no, you should laugh at them. That clip. Because I know quite a few people who would do the latter and they're on a certain platform. There's such a, like, you know, like there's all this controversy around like, you know, David Hogg and he's launching this thing to challenge people. And it's like, well, the Democrats are too old.

But that's actually, you know, some of them are old and they're great. And it's not really about it's about them as individuals. And it's like, you know, it's playing about. There's a lot of like kind of noise about what's wrong with the Democrats all the time. But then you see a clip like this. And it's like, this is what is. missing and sometimes what's missing is a person speaking in a way you don't expect because you don't have the imagination to know what a great truly great voice will sound like until you hear it

and what's amazing to me about that moment too is he gets he like no someone says someone like yells no about listening to them or something to that effect many people did and and and you watch him kind of like play the room saying like kind of he kind of like he like holds this group back to like let's hear this person out and then he kind of figures out a story to tell that gets everybody applauding by the end. And like I just, it is very hard to not feel agitated and on edge because of what's happening in politics and that's valid. But that is such an amazing kind of response of love that is more powerful. Just it is like I have never seen something so like so clearly sign signal like what a different kind of politics could look like and just.

just 10, 15 seconds? Yeah, I mean, he asked people to show empathy, but his answer is showing empathy itself, right? It was, first of all, the show not, it was not, it was tell, but it was not just tell. It was show and tell. Because a lot of times Democrats become strategist and say, well, you might be mad at someone that is saying this kind of stuff, but let me tell you why they're saying it, and then you start becoming an anthropologist, right?

And instead, he's actually showing that compassion and showing leading by example there. And also, like, there are a couple of choices in how you want to discuss people who incorrectly say that all the illegals are coming and taking all of our benefits, right? And you can attack them. You can just correct them like you're doing a fact check. Or you can try to understand where it's coming from from a place of empathy and grace and then try to bring them a lot. and we have just lost that last part. And to have someone who is a true progressive leader say that, I think is extremely valuable and just like made me feel pretty good.

Yeah. And also just part of it too is putting a wedge between Republican politicians and people who might support Republicans. Because in the longer clip, I don't know if it was in there that we just saw, but in the longer clip, he says some version of like, there's all kinds of ways in which people are being wronged. And one example was to some effect, like people being robbed of accurate information, people being like robbed of the truth. And it was such a, it's like, he doesn't ever sacrifice, he doesn't say, like, he never sacrifices on his values, right?

He doesn't like say, he doesn't like try to capitulate or anything to get someone to come along. His, you just see, like, he is guided not by like some political, he doesn't have a message document behind them, right? Like, he has a core motivation. But also is, it's, it's smart. but it's also how he's lived. Yeah. I mean, you can't, he's talked before about how so many of the people he works with and grow up with are like Trump supporters.

And so when you have to learn to live with people who disagree with you about issues like that, you figure out a way to understand where they're coming from, even if that means you're still going to believe or you're going to believe and you're not going to compromise your values or your principles, but you just spend a little more time figuring out where they came from, which I think a lot of Democrats, particularly who are college-educated Democrats who aren't around people who are Trump supporters all the time and are online, arguing with people who are either extreme Trump supporters or people who think just like you, they spend time doing that. And so if you haven't talked to people who are in the middle, right, and not moderate or

centrist in the middle, but people who are just complicated like most people are, then you don't understand how to do that. Yeah. And it's sad because he's so effective. And yet I'm, I'm, like all in on Janet Mills. Maxed out. We've got to stop this fucking guy. Too bad. That's it for us. Do me a favor.

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and to mainstream news that is pretty well captured. And the more that get behind this, you know, the more people that, you know, might yell at Graham Platner less. Perhaps, you know, in either direction. Yeah, right.