Breaking News from Pod Save America - Trump Does INSANE Turkey Pardon Speech Filled With Horrible, Weird Jokes

Episode Date: November 26, 2025

Get 15% off OneSkin with the code SPEECH at https://www.oneskin.co/SPEECH #oneskinpod It’s time for another episode of SpeechCenter! Jon Lovett and Tim Miller of @bulwarkmedia get into Donald Trum...p’s insane turkey pardon speech, Marjorie Taylor Greene’s resignation video, Scott Bessent’s denials about inflation. CHAPTERS 0:00 - Intro 1:23 - Trump's turkey speech 10:44 - Ad break 12:19 - Bessent on inflation 16:00 - MTG's mic drop Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is supposed to be a event where kids could go. Cash Patel is at this f*** an event. You know what I mean? This is supposed to be a family friend. His girlfriend is one of the children. There's just a little Louis C.K. Inside of Tim waiting to jump out and be like, what happened? Used to be able to tell jokes in this fucking country.
Starting point is 00:00:14 Gobble, gobble, bitches. Welcome back to Speech Center. Tim. Happy Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving. I'm grateful for you, love it. I'm grateful for this little friendship that we have developed. I'm too, and I don't even think it's that little. I think it's deep and wide.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Whoa, okay. Let's watch its calm down. It's a special time for us, sports fans, because you know what we'll be watching all day this Thursday? That's right, the National Dong Show. Tim, what kind of dog do you think is gonna win Best In Show this year? My biggest complaint about my in-laws
Starting point is 00:00:44 is that they don't do sports in their family and their country people. When I first went for Thanksgiving, I was like, at least I'll have football. I can talk to the men, you know, the uncles and the cousins about football. None of them watch sports. They do hunting and watch the fucking dog show.
Starting point is 00:00:58 And so they watch the dog show, and they comment on it. I have nothing to say about the dog show. I don't care about the dog show. I don't know anything about the dog show. And it's kind of triggering actually for you to bring it up. Wow. Okay, so that touched a nerve.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Great point, Tim. Let's keep going. On today's show, MTG is dumping MAGA. Scott Besant denies inflation. But before we get to all that, just as we are recording this today, Donald Trump issued the traditional pardons of the Thanksgiving turkeys at the White House. And in the history of Turkey, Turkey pardon events. This is the most bizarre speech a president has ever given, except for those that are tied with the ones this president previously gave. But I want you to see what he did here.
Starting point is 00:01:42 I'm going in live here. I'm fresh. I haven't seen anything. I haven't seen a clip. Nothing. After a thorough and very rigorous investigation into a terrible situation caused by a man named Sleepy Joe Biden, he used an auto pen last year for the Turkey's pardon. So I have the official duty to determine, and I have determined that last year's turkey pardons are totally invalid. These are two of the largest turkeys ever presented to an American president over 50 pounds each. It's the largest we've ever had. Despite their size, Secretary Kennedy has formally certified that these are the first ever Maha turkeys. They've been fattened on a steady diet of grass, beef, to allow the smoothies and all of the smoothies and all of the other things that they've been eating for this occasion.
Starting point is 00:02:31 But instead of pardon, some of my more enthusiastic staffers were already drafting the paperwork to ship gobble and waddle straight to the terrorist confinement center in El Salvador. And even those birds don't want to be there. You know what I mean. That was tough. I want to play that clip because this, this I think, captures why I believe this is the strangest
Starting point is 00:02:53 turkey pardon speech we've ever been given. Because he's trying to do the jokes, the light thing. that you do at this event, but A, I don't think he can see the paper. And B, E is, even the as written is some of the most like ghastly material a president has ever delivered. He is like a light joke about the turkeys having smoothies. I'll even accept an auto pen pardon joke. I think that's a good joke. I think a clean, good version of that joke can work.
Starting point is 00:03:24 But he is joking about sending the fucking turkeys to Sikon. Yeah, I'm glad you pointed out how he's struggling to read the paper because to me, the thing that is, I think, the most noticeable before the bad jokes is that his dentures seem loose and his, like, his pallor. He looks kind of like a wax statue. He's struggling. He seems to be struggling more noticeably. And that's hurting him because, you know, they probably shouldn't even give him the paper. He's sort of fine on his own. They probably want to keep him inside. Temperature. control, it's kind of like the turkey really, you know, and allow him to, you know, riff and do his, you know, kind of Atlantic City stand-up routine. I think that would have been a better bet than what they went with. So, yeah, I mean, it was bad before the Seacot joke. Obviously, the Seacot joke is not, not good. It's the only good news I have. The thing I'm thankful for is that the turkeys would be the only people that would be in Seacot that we had sent there because he totally botched the first effort.
Starting point is 00:04:28 And all of the Venezuelans he sent there illegally were able to be returned home. So that's nice. It's so twisted, right? Like this is their attempt at a light, less political event. But the staff even around him is so now morally warped that they don't understand why that's not the kind of joke anyone should ever make. it also plays in the crowd, which tells you something about the crowd. But also, I worked on the turkey pardon speeches. What was the best joke you draft? I'll be honest, for whatever reason, the kind of jokes that work best at the turkey pardon were never, ever my skill set. And so I was
Starting point is 00:05:14 never, like, Barack Obama did great jokes and sincerely. And as you, like, I'm, I take, I think you're aware, I think highly of my abilities as a writer and joke writer. Truly, I'm not responsible for any of the great jokes that Barack Obama did at the Turkey Partons. In fact, like, what the dynamic was whenever we were doing anything that required humor is David Axelrod would often provide, like, the avuncular sweet jokes. And then my platonic ideal of a joke is Barack Obama knocking the podium over and just saying, fuck you. That's like, to me, that's what you're aiming for. And so the happy medium is what made you have a drink with Mitch McConnell exactly exactly exactly I'm never good at the like gobble gobble boy turkeys I can't even do it I can't even it's just not my I'm like it's not my
Starting point is 00:06:02 energy it's hard for gays too just in general you know you want to immediately go to double entendres you know this is just what we're built for and so it's challenging to do you know I guess there's a certain kind of you know a certain certain kind of gay that might might have a more of an abuncular sort of style. I guess maybe that's just not you and I. No, I will say I've just sincere, I think the Autopenn joke for the Pardons by Biden is a great joke. And that is just a pure, good, well done joke and belongs in there. He does go on to say, none of the other pardons are real. That's a serious thing. Hunters was real. That's the one real one. So he, he does step on his own material. But the joke itself, I think, is solid. And to whatever
Starting point is 00:06:44 proto-fascist inside the machinery of the regime produced it, my hats are off to you. I do have one more thing I have to say, though. I'm not sure it is actually the weirdest ever political speech regarding turkeys. Maybe the weirdest pardon speech, but you do recall Sarah Palin doing the interview while the turkey is being slaughtered behind her. That's right. You don't remember that. We're going to want to put that on screen. I do remember it.
Starting point is 00:07:11 I do remember it. A simpler time, a simpler time. When she was the worst you people could do. Maybe still. Maybe still. Would have been president had she run in 2020. There's one other one other moment I wanted to include. Oh, great.
Starting point is 00:07:24 From the Turkey Pardon. Let's roll it. You're not going to have these crimes that are making the newspapers and the front page of every newspaper and television story, news story. What he's doing here? Back to the page. ...will make Chicago a safe place very quickly. I looked at the various cases, granting mercy, discovering that the terrible trauma that everyone's going through. And I had a little bit of a print's... little bit of a Pritzker joke. I was going to talk about Pritzker in size, but when I talk about Prisker,
Starting point is 00:07:55 I get angry because he's not letting us do the job. So I'm not going to tell my Pritzker joke. They have a very cute little joke, you know. Some speechwriter wrote some joke about his weight. But I would never want to talk about his weight. I don't talk about people being fat. I refuse to talk about the fact that he's a fat slob. I don't mention it. So what the fuck? So he is doing his serve Chicago's a head. hellhole riffing. He gets to some, I don't know how much of that is on the page or not. Then he gets to what was a joke about Pritzker that he either can't see, chooses not to do. So does his usual thing, I won't say he's a fat slob. Ha, ha, ha. He then says, you know what,
Starting point is 00:08:32 I could lose some weight. That comes later, not in the clip. He also kind of, I think he gets mad at jokes about weight because he think he does take them personally, which is a little bit of reflection in that. He's a big boy. Yeah, I also just, I think what he's trying to do there, it's hard to tell because, again, the dentures, he can't read the page. It's hard to say, But I think that what he was trying to do there was to come out as being anti-mercy. Yes. Also, I think, in the Thanksgiving remarks. He wanted to make sure he was clear that we've gone a little too far with mercy for criminals.
Starting point is 00:09:03 We want no mercy this Thanksgiving, which I guess is on brand. As you can see that, once again, similar to the first clip, and if we're just going to do this as figure skating judging, and he looks old and confused and horrible when he's trying to read the page. then when he kind of just gives up on that and looks up and does the fat slob, I'm not going to make a joke out of the U-Rift, that's fine, that's regular Trump. And I think they're not setting them up for success these days, the people in his orbit. There's supposed to be an event where kids could go. Like that, like that, this was an event where children would attend.
Starting point is 00:09:34 And he is simply not capable of it. And anyone around him that would have tried is now gone. Right? Like, in the first term, there were been people that were trying to hold up the kind of hold the weight of the institution up a little bit. have him fake it, right? But those people are all gone. Like, Cash Patel is at this fucking event. But, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:09:55 This is supposed to be a family friend. His girlfriend is one of the children. Nice, nice. Nice. I like that. I like that. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Listen, age gap relationships.
Starting point is 00:10:07 I am pro. I couldn't be more pro, but you also have to be able to joke about it. You do. Everybody's so sensitive these days. It's like whenever I make a joke, people are like, oh, but I make a tiny dick joke lately. and somebody emails me. They're like, what about the people of tiny dicks?
Starting point is 00:10:19 I'm like, sorry. I'm like, I'm skinny. Okay, if people make fun of somebody for being a wist who's unable to lift weights, I don't get personally offended. That's funny. That's fine. We all have our own foibles. I love, I just love that just scratches beneath the surface. There's just a little Louis C.K. inside of Tim waiting to jump out and be like, what happened? You used to be able to tell jokes in this fucking country. That's awesome. I love that. Speech Center is brought you by one skin. If you're like me, your skin needs some extra care this time of year between colder weather and the holidays fast approaching. It can feel like nonstop stress to your system.
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Starting point is 00:12:33 Inflation has gone up. It's at 3% now up from 2% in April when the tariffs were imposed. No, no, no, no. They weren't. So inflation hasn't gone up. And Kristen, the one thing that we're not going to do is do what the Biden administration did and tell the American people they don't know how they feel. They are traumatized and over the Biden inflation, we have slowed inflation and we are working
Starting point is 00:13:02 very hard to bring it down. Kristen, I can tell you that counsel and economic advisors has a study. You know the best way to bring your inflation rate down? move from a blue state to a red state. Blue state inflation is half a percent higher. And that is because they don't deregulate. They keep prices up. Energy is higher.
Starting point is 00:13:24 You know, there was an Italian place in my neighborhood growing up. My dad always used to say, ugh, nobody goes there. There's always a line. And whenever they say, oh, you've got to move from the blue states to the red states. If you want to lower your cost, move to the red states, the cost of living is higher in Los Angeles in San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:13:42 And by the way, Austin and, you know, Nashville and other places. And there are plenty of cheaper places you can live. But people want to live in blue cities. People love living in those places. But until the market equalizes in a house in some of these places that you say are doing it right, cost the same as the houses in the places that you think are fucking hellholes, until then the market is telling us where the demand is, you know? Fox News is now streaming live on Fox One.
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Starting point is 00:14:37 Well, it's somebody who moved from a little state to Red State. I think I can weigh in on this. I mean, moving isn't really a big deal for Scott Bessent. He's able to move to South Carolina. He's a team of movers, the truck. He probably doesn't even deal with the logistics. His husband probably deals with that, you know? Right.
Starting point is 00:14:51 It doesn't exactly know what goes into it. You know, it's hard to imagine him like picking up a box. God forbid picking up like furniture and like the type of fur. And so if you're a real person who can't afford all that, like moving is a bit of a hassle. Or if you're a middle class person who can barely afford it, moving is very expensive. moving is much more expensive than you realize. And so, you know, it's just, there are a lot of problems, I think, that are revealed by his, by his potential solution there that he thought was very cute, though.
Starting point is 00:15:20 You can, he does a little thing when he makes a comment that he thinks very cute. Yeah, that little smirk. It's also just also not true. Like, whatever the, like, cost of living is rising in red places and blue places. It's a, it's a national, it's been an international phenomenon, but it's certainly a national phenomenon. on. It's also just the nature of working in these jobs that the normal friction and like interactions of life do melt away, right? Like he's getting up every morning in his very fancy place he must live in and going and working, I'm sure, long hours. He's not going to the
Starting point is 00:15:52 grocery store at the end of the day with a card, right? He's not doing normal life stuff. None of these people are in part because the jobs are really hard. At least the younger people that are in those roles are kind of scraping by and like, you know, like there's a, there are like there are natural ways in which when you work in government, especially when you're young, like you're still part of the world. But Scott Besson is and he's not going to Nellie's, I don't think, on the weekends. Like we used to, Tim. He's not.
Starting point is 00:16:17 He's not going to Nellies like we used to. And he's not paying. You mentioned the security deposit in the condo on 14th Street. You know, it's always more expensive than you think. You're like, oh, I think I've got this. And it's like, oh, wait, I got to pay two months rent. That's challenging. Last, we have a mic drop from this week.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Here's Marjorie Taylor Green announcing her resignation from Congress, as well as Trump's reaction to the news. If I am cast aside by the president and the MAGA political machine and replaced by neocons, big pharma, big tech, military industrial war complex, foreign leaders, and the elite donor class, then many common Americans have been cast aside and replaced as well. When common American people realize and understand that the political industrial complex of both parties is ripping this country apart, and instead the reality is that they, common Americans, the people, possess the real power over Washington, then I'll be here by their side to rebuild it. We started backing perhaps the worst Republican congressman in our history, you know, stupid person,
Starting point is 00:17:28 named Massey, and I could go your own way. And once I left her, she resigned because she would never have survived a primary. But I think she's a nice person. Okay, thank you very much. I loved the manner in which she shut down. The Trump is the Uniparty now thing is so good. And I think that the Democrats can learn a lot from some of the messaging Marjorie Taylor Green offered there about why she feels disconnected for Trump.
Starting point is 00:17:56 On the actual, like, her stepping down and why, I gotta just be honest, I'm struggling to wrap my head around what's happening inside Marjorie Taylor Green's brain. I think that, you know, we don't have a lot of in common, me and Marge. And unlike some of these other Republicans, like where I really, I know their ilk, she was a real one from the new ilk that emerged after I bailed. This was a woman who was like, I am alone in my house. I'm unhappy in my life and in my marriage, and I'm looking for meaning. I'm going to start posting on Facebook about how I think that maybe Hillary Clinton is eating babies. And like, I am very concerned about that. And then I'm going to start a CrossFit gym, and I'm going to go Maha, and then I'm going to run for Congress.
Starting point is 00:18:46 And that is a character that I just, I don't have a lot of connective tissue with. And so I don't really know what is motivating her departure. And I don't know that it does me much good to speculate. But I think that the messaging around her departure was like pretty apt and pretty powerful in a certain way. Yes. You know, J.D. Vance adopted the dark. Marjorie Taylor Green was born in it. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:12 If I was like sitting down and talking to Marjorie Taylor Green, who I think you described pretty accurately. And so, and I would think, all right, well, then how does someone end up like that? then have this kind of genuine seeming awakening of some kind that has caused her to moderate how she speaks in part because of what happened with Charlie Kirk. And the argument that I would make is, look, we may see things differently on some of these social issues. But when you talk about what are the obstacles to like fighting for the people, you've been bamboozled here, you've bamboozled yourself, the big, beautiful bill, like everything you're describing as like a bipartisan phenomenon, Democrats are, you know, are feckless and strange.
Starting point is 00:19:52 and often quite wrong. But for the most part, you could build quite a coalition on the issues you seem to be focused on. You would just be called a conservative Democrat in years past. If we could just get you away from the Rothschild fucking conspiracy theories. Yeah, and the, you know, in the trans. You know, her statement, it's a four-page statement. And so there were elements of it that I think maybe, you know, I could hand over to the
Starting point is 00:20:16 Democrats and say, maybe try this on for size. And there were some other elements like the trans-enged. of our society is a problem and you know global gay and we really need capital gains tax cuts for upper middle class home buyers
Starting point is 00:20:33 but this is what I mean though like I of course of course but she is a product of her information environment and what that tells me is that her views seem to be a mile wide and an inch deep right like there's a part of me that believes she's one fucking bravo con trip like we could get
Starting point is 00:20:50 a fucking Marjorie Taylor Green West Hollywood Rumspringer. I feel like she's a getable. I think it's worth a try. I want Marjorie Taylor Green. There's two things I want right now. And some of it's political, some of it's simply for the experience. One, I want Marjorie Taylor Green to come, spend some time during pride with the gays.
Starting point is 00:21:10 We'll hear her out. We'll deal with it. It will be uncomfortable. I don't know how quick the change would happen. I think she's getable. Okay. That's one thing I want to do, all right? sincerely for the experience.
Starting point is 00:21:22 I'll leave you as the point person on that. And the other is I do want to get a stake, play poker and talk about Star Wars with J.B. Pritzker. And I've talked about this, and that's important to me, and that's something that I do want to do. Okay, wow, those are great goals for 2026.
Starting point is 00:21:38 I mean, they're very love it coded. I'm still working through mine. So maybe I'll report back on the December Speech Center on what I'd like. All right, let's wrap it up. Tim, are you, anything you're specifically looking forward to as part of your Thanksgiving meal in Guy? Caribbean food. I had the Parkway poboy here in New Orleans.
Starting point is 00:22:04 It's a Thanksgiving poboy. It's the French bread, the gravy, the cranberry, you know, the stuffing, the turkey, all on one sandwich. It is a very lovety meal. It is just a full stomach bomb. You don't want to eat for days after. At least I don't. And I had that already this week. So my Thanksgiving is checked.
Starting point is 00:22:25 And now I'm going to do, I don't know, eat oxtails and dragon fruit and whatever the fuck. Wow. Happy Thanksgiving, Tim. Good to see you. Happy Thanksgiving to you too. Good to see. And, you know, we'd be grateful for Tim. We'd be grateful if people would subscribe.
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