Breaking News from Pod Save America - Trump FLIPS OUT at Fox News Host in DISASTER Interview

Episode Date: March 14, 2026

Jon Favreau and Tommy Vietor break down Trump’s disastrous interview with Fox News host Brian Kilmeade. CHECK OUT OUR SPONSOR: ZIP RECRUITER - http://ziprecruiter.com/CROOKED Learn more about your ...ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:43 So an incursion is like a more limited use of military power that would maybe not require congressional authorization, but he keeps calling it an excursion like it's Silicon's Island or something. Like they're dumping out the insane asylums. He confuses with applying for asylum. Exactly. Trump has also not formally addressed the nation about a plan or a strategy or how long we're going to be there, probably because there isn't one. Instead, we get toppers on remarks before the Inter Milan MLS soccer team championship award where he tells all the guys they're hot. Already starts talking about how he saved money on gold curtains. Gold curtains.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Look at these. After talking about fallen soldiers. Hey, Lionel Messi, what would have it take to put you on one of these curtains? So instead, we are left, as we are doing today, trying to parse his interviews to figure out how long we're going. We're going to be at war with Iran and how deeply we're going to get sucked into this quag virus. So it brings us to today's interview with Fox News is Brian Kilmead. That's the Fox and Friends host who recently said we should kill all homeless people with mental illnesses. He did apologize for that one.
Starting point is 00:01:40 He did the next day. We're going to listen to some clips from Trump's interview. Then we're going to look at some comments by J.D. Vance that are fueling speculation that he is running screaming from this policy. And then we're going to watch a clip from Pete Heggseth. That's fueling speculation that he never did quit drinking. So by the way, John, a lot of news coverage of this war has been terrible. Brian Kilmead in Fox News, as we're about to see, has been the absolute worst. It's just like totally a rock era like talkie points and war propaganda. That's why we want you to please subscribe to Potta of America here on YouTube. We're trying to cover this in a fair but tough way. And when you subscribe to Potta of America, you help us grow the show. You help us get good information into the YouTube algorithm. So it isn't right wing crap. And we'd appreciate it. Yes. Okay. So the first clip is Brian Kilmead asking Trump, you know, like a basic question like, hey, man, when's this war going to be over? How do you know? Let's watch. I'm doing something about it.
Starting point is 00:02:30 And I had to take an excursion. We had the greatest economy in history we do. We still do. Oh, this will bounce right back. When it's over, and I don't think it's going to be long, when it's over, this is going to bounce right back so fast. When are you going to know when it's over? When I feel it.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Okay. I feel it in my bones. Will you ask anybody in particular? Would that be some of the joint decision? Well, I deal with people. I have great people. How do you not follow up which bone? Is it what we're talking about femur?
Starting point is 00:02:57 Theamer? Is he like a fucking animal that knows when it's going to rain? It's like, like, what? It's just like Trump's going to like get up and just be like, a little achy. Yeah, all the birds fly away before the volcano. Time to bring the carriers home. It's so crazy to say when I feel it in my bones.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Earlier in the interview, Trump has asked whether the new Iranian Supreme Leader is alive. There's a lot of speculation that he's dead or mortally wounded. And Trump says he probably is, then he says, quote, but I think he's probably alive in some form. What does that mean? Like an AI? I've been following this and then Hague says that he's like disfigured maybe. You know, this guy has a fucking paper cut. He's like a broken.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Yeah, this guy has like a normal injury and they've all decided that they need to make him seem as decrepit as possible. This is my theory. Yeah, they're just denigrating the guy and it's like, hey guys, whether it's like Mushetaba, you know, a comedy or some other person like the IRC is calling the shots. Like none of these options are good. I mean, it reminded me of when the asshole. who shot Renee Good, the ice agent, and then they were like, oh, he went to the hospital for a serious, and someone was like, oh, he had hemorrhoids. Trump was also asked about whether the U.S. Navy is going to escort ships through the state of Hormuz
Starting point is 00:04:09 or if he's concerned that tankers aren't getting through. And he says, like, we'll have to see what happened. So again, they don't have a plan there. Okay, John, so also a lot of Iran nerds, they're kind of looking for cracks between the U.S. and Israel to see if we're on the same page in terms of strategy. Right at the war's outset, you remember Trump was calling on the Iran. Iranian people to rise up and to take their government. You don't really hear that rhetoric anymore from Trump or out of the White House. However, Netanyahu gave a press conference earlier this week where he once again called on the Iranian people to rise up and basically said, like, look, it's on you to topple your government, almost seeming to blame them for not yet toppling their
Starting point is 00:04:44 government. So here's Brian Kilmey's question about Netanyahu's remarks. Let's watch. So yesterday the prime minister or the other day said, it's soon to the Iranian people. It's time for you to soon come back and take back your country. When the time is right, and that time is soon. There's also report that Israeli officials do not think the regime is ready to fall yet. What do you say to the Iranian people? Do you echo what the prime minister said their time is soon to take back their own country? Well, you just mentioned to me a group of people that go around with machine guns and shoot them down,
Starting point is 00:05:15 and they say, if anybody protests, we're going to kill you in the streets. So I really think that's a big hurdle to climb for people that don't have weapons. I think it's a very big hurdle. So that it'll happen, but it probably will be maybe not immediately. Who's going to do that? They literally have people in the in these streets with machine guns, machine gunning people down if they want to protest. Okay. So, you know, that's a pretty big, that's a pretty high standard to say I want to go in protest.
Starting point is 00:05:48 And so I would understand that. And I would think Bibi would understand that too. Can I read you a tweet or short. truth social post that he did in January? Yes. Iranian patriots. Keep protesting. Take over your institutions.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Save the names of the killers and abusers. They will pay a big price. I have canceled all meetings with Iranian officials until the senseless killing of protesters stop. Help is on its way. I mean, what changed? Wasn't this, though, the most obvious place that he was going to land? He does not give a shit about the Iranian people.
Starting point is 00:06:20 No, never did. Remember the Venezuelan people were going to be free? and also that the oil that we're stealing from Venezuela, we're going to sell it and then give the money back to Venezuela? You think they got the check's in the mail for them yet? No, I don't think so. He doesn't give a shit about Americans, let alone Iranians. It was always a joke that he cared about the Iranian people.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Yeah, look, he's just every single strategy he has embraced has been naive. Initially, he was calling on the Iranian people to rise up and take control of their government. Well, that's very difficult when the government is heavily armed and you are not. and it's not just the IRGC, it's the Basij Militia or these paramilitary forces. Then he was saying, you know, there are all these talks that they were looking for a Delci Rodriguez of Iran, who was sort of like the vice president you could install
Starting point is 00:07:04 and be the puppet of the U.S. administration. But like, that was just never going to fly in Iran because you find me a Delci Rodriguez puppet for America in Iran, and I'll find you the next person who's going to get shot in the back of the head. Well, it's also because the way his mind works, he thinks there's no person, no matter how powerful, no matter what you believe, who can't be bought off. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:07:26 And he doesn't realize that it's a theocracy in Iran. And so these people are like, they don't give a shit that Trump's going to pay them a bunch of money or do whatever fucking corrupt deal he's going to do. They, they, when they say death to America, they mean it. Yeah, he fundamentally can't imagine having a belief system. That's exactly right. It's just like bigger than yourself. That's why he was like, what is this? I thought I could pay off the IRGC guy.
Starting point is 00:07:50 What's going on? I thought I was going to pay off the mullas. The other thing people are really wondering about is, are the U.S. and Israel going to launch some sort of ground invasion? And the number one priority is the highly enriched uranium that we think maybe is buried under one or two sites, these nuclear sites that we bombed. But it could be spread all over the country. We don't really know. So that's like ground invasion option number one. The other option that's been speculated about a lot that is like we know Centcom is thought about and planned is an operation to capture Karg Island, which is the little island, like 25 kilometers off the coast.
Starting point is 00:08:20 where 90% of Iran's oil goes through and then is exported. So Brian Kilmead asked about Carg Island. He tries to do it in a really kiss-assy way. You tell me how you think this went for Mr. Kilmead. Let's watch. The year was 1988. This future president, Donald Trump, was selling a book called The Art of the Deal. He gave an interview to a British newspaper.
Starting point is 00:08:44 At which time, you talked about Iran. You said, we have to win back respect for America on the world stage. and you had stern words for the Islamic Republic. You said they've been beating us up psychologically, making us look like a bunch of fools. One bullet shot of one of our men are ships, I do a number on Karg Island. I go in and I take it.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Now here in 2026, you are president. Are you thinking about taking Karg Island where 90% of the Iranian oil goes through? And what do you think about? Do you remember that interview and that school of thought? Yeah, but, Brian, I can't answer a question like that. And you shouldn't ask it. You shouldn't be even asking it.
Starting point is 00:09:25 It's one of so many different things. It's not high on the list, but it's one of so many different things. And I can change my mind in seconds. But, you know, for you to ask a question, who would answer a question like that? I mean, you're asking me a question, Carg Island, okay, everything. Who would ask a question like that? And what fool would answer it, okay? Let's say I was going to do it or let's say I wasn't going to do it.
Starting point is 00:09:49 What would I said? yes, Brian. I'm thinking about doing it. Let me let me let you know what time and when it'll take place. It's not, you know, it's sort of a foolish question. A little surprising for you because you're a smart man. I am, but you were just pretty amazing that you thought about in 1988. Well, I did. Sir, sir, it's pretty amazing. I was just trying to suck your dick, sir. He is like five seconds away from crying. Honestly, he looks so sad. He shrinks. Maybe my favorite answer from Donald Trump in like a year? Yeah, he's like, good for him.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Brian, you ignorant slut. Like, what's so funny is the number of times he repeats it. You can tell he's getting madder and madder and madder. What the, and then he's, then he's like, mocking him. Then he's like, dude, like, oh, yes, Brian, I'm going to do it at this hour. It's like, there's definitely been times when, like, Sean Hannity is even too obsequious. And you can tell it pisses Trump off. Well, it's also, it's like, because Brian Kilmead was doing an impression of a clever person.
Starting point is 00:10:42 And it was a bad impression because he's like, oh, like, I'm going to get to it this way with the book and look at the quote I found. And Trump's like, I'm not impressed with any of that. You think I'm a fucking idiot? It's also like Trump, I think, is worried that like the Iranians are going to see this and suddenly realize that they might take Carter Island. Like it's been widely speculated. The element of surprise is gone, gentlemen, from all your ground operations. I think the new Ayatollah has the dial tuned to Brian Kilmead's radio show. I think they don't miss an episode over there.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Final clip from this Trump interview. So Trump was asked about a scary news report from ABC News with the headline, FBI warns Iran aspire to attack. to attack California with drones in retaliation for war. Alert. Here's that exchange. On the drone attack in California, is that real or is that verified? Did that cross your desk, that that is a legitimate concern? Well, the first we heard about it was from Gavin Newscombe, the incompetent governor of California.
Starting point is 00:11:39 He told you? As he said, no, he announced it. It came out from him or his office. That's what we heard at first. He was talking about it. but he has learning disability. So I don't know, maybe he has a new, you know, he admitted he had learning disability. Somebody said, well, what's wrong with that?
Starting point is 00:11:57 I said, that's okay, but not for the president. Okay, I feel safer. Do you? Look, he would be the first president with learning disability. Yeah, no. Like, just for folks, like this, I look, I saw that headline and I thought, that seems unlikely. But I heard about it from dozens of people. Lots of friends in L.A. and California, like, people are genuinely scared.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Well, I don't know what the fuck he was talking about. The FBI, they asked Newsom about it in an interview. Yes. The FBI did issue the warning to California law enforcement. So he did get it from the federal government. Yes. And then when Trump was asked about it, I think he was on a tarmac somewhere, getting on a plane, he said, yeah, we're aware of that. And then someone asked him about the sleeper, the sleeper cells, the terrorist sleeper cells.
Starting point is 00:12:47 And Trump said, yeah, no, we know where most of them. I think. Yeah. Yeah. And Time Magazine asked him if Americans should be scared of attacks in the homeland and he said, I guess. Right. So there's a body of evidence that would make one concerned about these kinds of news reports.
Starting point is 00:13:02 And I, you know, like, Hannah asked me about it. I'm trying to. Yeah. No, your wife asked me about this report too. And his fucking, like this man, first of all, he takes no responsibility, right? Like, he can't be like, yeah, it was in my PDB. My briefers are on it. Like, it's a thing we're focused on.
Starting point is 00:13:16 He just has to deflect attention and be like, I'm not, I wasn't aware of it. Gavin Newscom is the reason. this is out there. Isn't there like the easy normal answer is like, look, it's unverified intelligence. We get tips all the time. We warn local law enforcement all the time because everyone's going to stay vigilant. You shouldn't have to worry about anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:31 That's the answer. That would be wonderful. I would take that in a heartbeat. Like, which is, it's part of a pattern where anything bad he's not aware of it. Like, they still refuse to take responsibility for this airstrike that killed 165 girls at a school in Tehran, or not Tehran in Minjab. But every, like there are all these news reports that clearly this is a U.S. strike like the chairman of the joint chiefs put up a map that showed an airstrike on that facility
Starting point is 00:13:54 by the united states like we only only ones to tomahawk missiles and trump lies and lies and how hegs that today wouldn't take responsibility it's just it's so frustrating to me that these guys will not own anything that goes badly they think that they can just use it's still under investigation and then they're just going to keep pushing this off and then by the time they feel forced into an answer everyone's going to have moved on to a million other things they're going to be like this is old news why are you asking about this yeah it's just it's disgusting Podcastave America breaking news is brought to you by ZipRecruiter. What's the latest trend in hiring?
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Starting point is 00:15:25 headline Vance was skeptical voice in White House on Iran strikes. The subhead was, quote, White House officials revealed that the vice president made his opposition known in the lead-up. Very subtle positioning there, J.D. We did we to get it arms like on this thing. Was the was the White House official in question an absolute pussy from Ohio? Ray D. Hans. So J.D. was asked about his views on the the Iran war during a press conference on Friday. Here's his response. Hi, Mr. Vice President, Bill Barrow with the Associated Press. What did you advise the president initially as he considered his actions in Iran? And what are you urging him to do now,
Starting point is 00:16:05 especially with Americans seeing higher prices at the pump and some of the fallout from that across the economy? Do you express any concerns like those you've expressed in the past on the possibility of these extended wars? Well, Bill, I appreciate the question. I know you guys have to ask it, but imagine the situation. We're in the situation room where you can't even take your iPod in there, or your AirPods, I guess what they're called. You can't take your iPhone in there. You can't take anything in there because it is the most classified space anywhere in the world. And I sit there with Pete Hegseth and General Kane and Marco Rubio and the entire White House team. And the president and I and the entire senior team are talking about the options and about what we need to do
Starting point is 00:16:49 and about how we must best protect the American people. I hate to disappoint you, but I'm not going to show up here and in front of God and everybody else tell you exactly what I said in that classified room, partially because I don't want to go to prison, and partially because I think it's important for the President of the United States
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Starting point is 00:17:40 Not exactly a ringing endorsement of the policy. But also, this is, this is not the worst problem here, but like, He's such a fucking, like, he has to, he can't just say, like, he could have easily just said, I'm the vice president, the advice I give to the president, it stays private, period. But here's where I think we are in Iran and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He has to make, he's, I'm going to scold you, and I'm going to tell you how fucking stupid you are. Because we would never divulge anything in classified settings unless we invite Jeff Goldberg to the signal chat. He has never met a question that didn't turn him into a pissy, whiny little bitch.
Starting point is 00:18:21 First of all, saying to the reporter, no, I actually think that taking out their ballistic missiles program and knocking the nuclear sites is a good thing. That's not classified. Can you break, you idiot? And like, he knows better. I'm not going to stand up here before God and country. Listen, God's not paying attention to you, dickhead. You're a afterthought in his world. I will say little media criticism.
Starting point is 00:18:44 That reporter should have asked the question in a different way. What do you think would get a better answer to it? I think you want to ask him about strategy now. in perspective, like, what do you, yeah, like, what do you think is, what would you be, what, what's considered a success in terms of degrading the ballistic missiles, in terms of the Navy, in terms of the nuclear thing, like, when, how long does this go? When does this go to? Like, get him, just ask him a general question that might give him, that might lead him to an answer that opens daylight with him and the president without him realizing that he's opening
Starting point is 00:19:14 the daylight. Yeah, no, I think that's good. I'd love to hear that question. I do think that answer opened daylight between him and the president. Because he didn't see him. What Donald Trump wants from you there is be like, I am for whatever Donald Trump is for. Like, by the way, Trump was asked in the Fox interview
Starting point is 00:19:28 about deliberations between J.D. and Rubio on the cabinet and what's it like? And Trump goes, we have some differences, but they never end up being much. I convince them all. Let's do it my way. It's like, well, that's true.
Starting point is 00:19:41 You are the president. So they don't really have a choice, but I don't know if you convince them. But yeah, I mean, what's interesting about all of this is there was this political report today that Vance is clearly trying to distance himself from the war. But previously, someone was backgrounding on his behalf that J.D. Vance, he told Trump that if he's
Starting point is 00:19:59 going to do it, go bigger. So, like, he owns this either way. Yeah, I don't know what they think they're doing there. Do you think he's going to say after this is a fucking disaster? Like, it wouldn't have been a disaster if he had just gone even bigger. I know. Like you say that, there is a version of this where it's going to be like a rock war redox. You can already tell where it's like, well, this it was right to go to war but they executed it. They bungled the mission. It's incompetence. That's the real problem with the Trump administration and not the
Starting point is 00:20:25 fucking bloodlust and insanity that they were all showing on the lead up to this war. That's like yes on some level I agree with you. You guys are idiots. Yeah, I don't want to take that away from you. You are bungling the most obvious things. Like these guys not being prepared to reopen the Strait of Hormuz if Iran closed it is insane because like literally every war game ever about accomplished with Iran ends with them mining the Strait of Hormuz. are closing it somehow and they just like are unprepared to deal with it.
Starting point is 00:20:50 That's a straights aren't looking great. The straight's not looking good. That said, I think the problem is regime change wars in the Middle East. Yeah. That's probably it. Finally, John, I bet a lot of viewers have been asking themselves, what would it be like if General West Warland's Vietnam era war updates were written in the style of the cat and the hat, but after both it polished off a fifth of gin.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Let's watch. Between our Air Force and that of the Israelis over 15, thousand enemy targets have been struck. That's well over 1,000 a day. No other combination of countries in the world can do that. So today, as we speak, we fly over the top of Iran and Tehran, fighters and bombers all day picking targets as they choose. As our intelligence gets better and better and more refined. Looking up, the IRC and Iranian regime, sees only two things on the side of aircraft, the stars and stripes and the star of David. The evil regime's worst nightmare.
Starting point is 00:21:58 What the fuck, dude? It's just like, like, what is what the, like, why do you talk like that? Like the daily heggseth fucking war haikus. It's a war hikus. I read, we're up, we're over. Top, they look. They die. Israel.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Starves. I've read Lizzie this book, Ten Apples Up on Top by Dr. Seveur. Have you ever read this one? No. It's a terrible book. Absolutely terrible. It's like 10 apples up on top.
Starting point is 00:22:32 You can't stop. It's like some fucking weird character talking to a dog. Turns out the dog is wearing a skin tight suit. And he's our Secretary of Defense. He also said, John, the only thing prohibiting transit in the straits right now was Iran shooting at shipping. That was my favorite.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Open for transit. Should Iran not do that? Yeah, man. Congrats on figuring out the problem. Look, if you don't mind, if you don't mind sailing through a body of water where you might, your boat might blow up because of someone might be shooting at you or a mine below. You're boat full of oil. Other than that, go through the fucking straight, pussy, as Brian Kilmaid.
Starting point is 00:23:09 You said that the other day, right? Yeah. Hankseth also said, no quarter, no mercy for our enemies. offering no quarter to an adversary in war is a war crime de facto. He also spent a bunch of time whining about CNN. He said something about like called on David Ellison to take over the network. He said, I can't wait until he takes over. Yeah, they kept out a really good seasons journalist named Nancy Yusuf.
Starting point is 00:23:33 I think they once again kept out the photographers who like, I don't even, did you, I tried to look for the pictures that upset him. Was it like from a bad angle or something? Yeah, I don't know. I have not seen the pictures either because I think maybe they successfully got, I don't know. These guys are the whineest fucking babies. And so by now the Pentagon Press Corps, it's like there's a couple real reporters, like Michael Gordon, I think, from the New York Times or Wall Street Journal, whatever,
Starting point is 00:23:55 asked some good questions, some smart people in there. But then it'll be like, hi, I'm like George from the Epic Times, the like fucking fallen gong propaganda outlet. And I was like, hey, Lindel TV over here. But even they're starting to sound skeptical. Yeah, that's why he was getting mad. Lashing out at CNN, saying the quiet part out loud, that he's just like, I can't wait till the president's friend who swooped in and bought this mega fucking media outlet just so he could make CNN more conservative or just destroyed altogether. Like, just admitting that is crazy.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Absolutely, baffling. Probably will show up in a court of law at some point when there's a lawsuit trying to block this merger. I don't know, man. I don't think it's going too good. It's not great that these guys are in charge. Like, it's a real clown show. It's depressing. They think of it.
Starting point is 00:24:41 They see this as like a show. Like they see this as another episode of the Trump show. And it's interesting now and it was cool when we were bombing people and we blew some shit up and we're so powerful, dominating in the skies, blah, blah, blah. And when we decide everyone's getting bored of it or angry, new show, new episode. And they're going to cut and run and they're going to leave the poor Iranian people to just live in this battered regime. And meanwhile, Lebanon's getting crushed. Like hundreds of people are dead. 800,000 people have been displaced.
Starting point is 00:25:11 basically like put the Israelis have like an evacuation order for I think like a quarter of the country at this point of people just getting pushed out let alone like the idea that we can continue to like fucking bomb places in the Middle East into submission and kill people's families and raise their cities and there's going to be no repercussions for Americans yeah uh either here in America or like overseas somewhere I mean what yeah that's that is my big fear like that look I think Trump's response to the story about like a drone strike in California was dickish and stupid. But like my fear is that in 10 years there's a bus full American tourists like in Greece somewhere and they gets blown up and it's an IRGC linked. How many people?
Starting point is 00:25:52 How many people have we pissed off? Like how many terrorists have we created? Yeah. From this. And by the way, yeah, the U.S. reportedly has spent $11 billion in the first week of the war in Iran. That number is probably a lot higher when you do all in costs and there's like honest accounting. But, you know, we've had this conversation. on the show about whether Democrats should vote for a supplemental funding bill. And at this point,
Starting point is 00:26:15 like, I think this has gone from a debate about whether this could be a political liability to a massive opportunity for Democrats to say, hell no, we're not giving you 50 billion to spend on this disastrous war. We'll spend it on literally anything else. It's the easiest possible message that combines every single political issue and position that is popular. Like, I just, I mean, it's the morally right thing to do for sure. It's like a number. It's like a number of. no-brainer, but politically it's a fucking, it's like a, the slam dunk of all slam ducks. Yeah. I saw Pelosi today not ruling out supporting funding for the troops.
Starting point is 00:26:50 That's crazy. Because all these people have Iraq warbrain and they're still in 2003. They have a rack war brain. I'm trying to give leadership. I know she's not in leadership anymore. I'm trying to give Hakeem Jeffrey's a little space to kind of bring his caucus along because he's probably thinking minds might be in a different place in a week or two or whenever this funding request comes.
Starting point is 00:27:07 And there's reporting today that Republicans aren't actually eager. to have this vote because they know Rand Paul is going to be opposed. I'm sure. Thomas Massey will be opposed, right? So that's not an easy vote for them. But I've also talked to Democrats who say they're worried, this is talked, Democratic members of Congress who are worried we could lose as many as half the Congress or half the Democratic caucus on this vote. So I hope that changes over time. Yeah, me too. Anyway, well, glad these guys are in charge. Really fun having to watch them steer the ship here. Thanks for watching. I feel safe. When Mother's Day means celebrating your mom, your wife, maybe even your daughter as a new mom.
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