Breaking News from Pod Save America - Trump Hit with Epstein Surprise by Former Ally

Episode Date: June 11, 2026

A former Trump ally just dropped a surprise EPSTEIN BOMBSHELL, which has the White House spiraling. Tommy Vietor and Brian Tyler Cohen break down the latest. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming Ontario. Brian, a former top Trump ally just ripped him to shreds on television over the Trump administration's cover up of the Epstein files. Let's watch. They're traitors, the ones that refuse to release Epstein files, want to cover up for pedophiles and rapists and all sorts of discussing things in these files. Those are the traders to the American people, and they should be ashamed of themselves. I mean, this report basically says it was the president who didn't want anything released. saying that that applies to the president himself?

I'm saying exactly that. He told me on the phone that his friends would get hurt. And that's why he's against releasing the Epstein files. It's been shocking to people, many people that voted for Donald Trump, many people that voted Republican, that they would actually follow through to try to cover up the Epstein files. She's like, yeah, dumb, dumb, I'm calling him a traitor. Yeah.

Obviously, I'm calling him a traitor. Way not to be too vague there, Marjoriello Green. I mean, holy shit. Yeah. So she's referencing this report in the New York Times about like the last year's political crisis around the Epstein files of the desperate attempt to cover them up. That included some gross stuff in there about Trump himself, allegations that he had sex to one of Epstein's trafficking victims, that he had a predilection for like nipple play. Yeah. We don't have to talk about it.

You surprised to see MTV go and ham there on TV? I'm actually not because I think I think that she is one of a collection of people who Trump has had it out for because those people dared push back against Trump on the Epstein files and that group believed him when he said he was like going to try to get justice for people. Right. God forbid. God forbid holding him to account for what he promised his own voters on the campaign trail. But if you look at this group of people who signed on to the discharge petition to actually move the Epstein Files Transparency Act forward, that group includes Thomas Massey who lost his primary, Marjorie Teller Green, who is out of Congress because she wasn't going to get the support of Trump. Nancy Mace, who Trump didn't endorse as governor of South Carolina and lost her primary. And of course, Lauren Bobert, who had to change her district from the third congressional district in Colorado to the fourth because she had already had a tough race against her challenger in the last election cycle

and now has to contend with Donald Trump calling her dumb and low IQ. So all of these people who were on Trump's own side, and these are no squishy lips, right? Thomas Massey sends out a Christmas picture every year with his family holding AR-15s. With like the biggest machine guns you were seeing. Yeah. So like not exactly like tree-hugging communists here. And yet Trump went after all of those people one by one because they dared push back against him on the Epstein files. And so look, what does Marjorie Tilly Green have to lose by speaking out against this?

She looks tan as hell, man. She's not like where she live now, like Puerto Rico or something. She's like wherever anywhere but Washington DC is great. She's like, I'm out. Peace. And frankly, there's not even, there's not even that much downside because think about where the vast majority of the American people reside on this issue. Yes, on Epstein itself, they're going to be opposed to him. And so what's the downside? A, you're out of that terrible Republican conference and you get to, you know, go parasailing in Puerto Rico or whatever she's doing. And B, she's still on the right side of history as far as this issue's concerned. And I think she like actually deeply cares about this one and just knows how wrong it is. By the way, this article in the Times was adapted from a new book for,

Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan called regime change inside the imperial presidency of Donald Trump. So sign me up for reading that thing. Just a few of like the high level notes for folks. I think that this story, organic book plug for Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan. I got a book coming out in a couple of weeks. They deserve it. They deserve it. What do I got to do for a book like? Where's your reporting on Trump? Brian, a couple of like political hurdles is great. Your guy Todd Blanche named to be attorney general. Yeah. He's sitting in the situation room in the White House, coordinating and colluding in meetings about how to cover up Trump's crimes. Feels like a bad thing and disqualifying for the next head of the Department of Justice to be doing.

J.D. Vance is in there and he's described by Susie Wiles, the chief of staff, as like a hyper online conspiracy theory loving child, basically. Dan Bongino, we all knew that guy. It was crazy, the former deputy director of the FBI, but he's described as an even bigger headcase than we thought. And then Pam Bondi is just humiliated in the story. as if she wasn't already, but it's just the disaster for her. So it's an enjoyable read so far. I think the interesting thing about Todd Blanche

and why Trump decided to tap him as AG in the first place is, and we had seen even Todd Blanche himself talk about this, this idea that all of the Epstein baggage goes away with Pam Bondi. And so Todd Blanche doesn't have to shoulder any of it. But there's no doubt about where Todd Blanche's loyalties reside here because the guy was literally Trump's former personal defense attorney. Sitting in the crisis meetings in the city. room thinking about how to cover up his crime. And so if there's anybody that Donald Trump should

and could have tapped for this job to protect himself, if he's looking to protect himself, if that's his top priority, Todd Blanche is the obvious go-to. Now, the question that remains here is when he has to get confirmed by the Senate, if there are going to be any Republicans willing to buck Trump and actually speak up about the fact that there are so many unanswered questions as far as Todd Blanche is concerned. One, Pambandi invoked his name like a hundred times. in her interview with members of the House Oversight Committee. So she threw him under the bus in a huge way. She was tossing that gun under the bus.

I don't know. Todd had that one. I don't know. You know who would know the answer to that question? Do you have Todd? Do you have Todd's email? Yeah. Do you need Todd's a number? Can we just FaceTime Todd right now?

It's a funny way to do an oversight hearing is FaceTime in Todd Litch. And the second part of that is we still don't know why Todd Blanche moved Galane Maxwell from the prison that she was in in Florida to a minimum security prison in Texas. We did learn in this article, though, that initially J.D. Vance pitched that idea, but they wanted Tucker Carlson to do the interview in prison. And then it turned up to be Todd Blanche. Yeah. Interesting. How that happened. You're right. So there are so many unanswered questions and there is so much grounds to not confirm Todd Blanche to be the next attorney general. But at the same time, these people are cowards. And we've seen what happens to people who buck Trump,

even on issues less consequential than the Epstein files. John Cornyn was. So far up Trump's ass, he could touch the back of his teeth. The guy was posting pictures of himself reading. Those are dentures, but yeah. The guy was posting pictures of himself reading Art of the Deal still wasn't good enough to nab the endorsement. So he's out of the Senate. We have Bill Cassidy, who's out of the Senate, and Thomas Massey, who's out of Congress. And so, you know, look, Donald Trump has made it clear that he expects 100% loyalty.

So if anybody pushes back on this nomination of Todd Blanche as permanent at Attorney General, they know what fate is going to befall them. I love it. We got a few months of some lame ducks. Push back away, boys. Yeah. Spike this guy. All right, Brian.

So Trump isn't just sick in as far as like he's a gross old man who likes to hurt nipples, as we learned in this article. He's also clearly having medical issues and he's covering them up. We've talked about the weird hand bruising, started on the handshake in hand, then all a sudden they're like, oh, it's from all the gripping. And then it's on the other handshaken hand. Well, you know, non-handshaken hand, I mean. Necrosis spreads.

But now the Washington Post has this big report. Necotic hands McGee, you know? What was that word mean? Necrosis. It means like dying. It's like a dead hand. Yeah. If his hands are necrotic, they're just dead.

That's a big word. Yeah. Well, you know, that's what we're here for. We're here to educate our audiences every day about the important stuff. It's like a necrophiliac is when you're banging corpses, right? Mm-hmm. Cool. Anyway, Washington Post.

Always comes back to necrosis for necrophiliacs for Tommy. You dropped the word. The Washington Post. I'm trying to do my transition here as a report out about Trump's most recent medical checkup. They found that he saw 22 specialists. 22. It sounds very healthy. So George H.W. Bush was seen by five specialists in 1989.

His son was seen by 12. Trump nearly doubled that number. What does that mean? We have no idea because they won't tell us any information because they don't disclose anything. The most specialists, nobody's seen more specialists than me. What are we doing here? 22 specialists? Yeah, just your standard annual physical three times a year by 22 specialists.

What the fuck, Tommy? What's the big deal? I love it. Who among us isn't being seen three times a year for our once a year checkup by 22 doctors? By thrice. Yeah, no, he's going every other queue, every other quarter. No, he also goes to the dentist. He has an annual dental visit three times a year also at Walter Reed for some reason.

None of this makes sense. Also, I love this in the Washington Post. Sorry, he said, we have nothing to hide, the official said. Then it says the White House has often declined to answer specific questions about Trump's medical assessments, such as what prompted the president to undergo a second physical exam at Walter Reed last year. Usually they make one trip unless they have an urgent condition, nearly three months after the visit. Trump finally admitted he'd received a CT scan as part of his assessment. Again, we don't know what for.

Yeah. I mean, it's, look, like he's dying before our eyes. like his body is dying before our eyes. Will they ever tell us? No, because the tragic irony, as far as Trump is concerned, is that he got so much mileage off of denigrating Joe Biden's physical and mental state. And now he's another 80-year-old guy in a very similar position. We're not going to learn that the man is dead until he dies at end of that.

He's going to fall asleep and they're not going to be able to wake him up. And that's how this is going to go. But of course they have to- 45 specialists will run into the room. They have to subdue it. because the worst thing as far as this administration is concerned, and as far as Trump's ego is concerned, is making him look the same way that they made Joe Biden look,

which is old and weak. And so now they have to just keep covering this guy's dying body with foundation every day. It's a lot of hand makeup. All right, switching gears here, Brad. So for weeks, we've been trying to figure out when the war with Iran is going to end. Every day, Trump is like post something about how it's like on the cusp of being over

or he just has axios to do it for him. two minutes literally before we started taping Trump claimed that they were about to sign a memorandum of understanding with Iran that would open the Strait of Humus and lead to talks who the hell knows I don't believe a word he says we've heard the same report for like weeks now but I wanted to show you this quick clip

of what Trump was most focused on this morning during his interview with Fox and Friends let's watch Iran is very good at publicity but they're not good at fighting if they can't believe the press they get They can't even believe it. And they told me, they said, it's amazing how well we're doing in the papers. We're not doing so well.

They're negotiating with us to make a deal. It's hard for them because they are proud. They're very proud. But the press just covers it so crazily. Don't worry about it. No matter what I do, no matter what I do, the press will say it was a great victory for Iran. These people are great. Mr. President.

It's trumped arrangements. Yeah, Mr. President, I agree with Brian. Don't worry about it. Our viewers are watching Fox. So just, oh, man, it's always fun when, when the truth accidentally spreads out, when the veil gets lifted. Mr. President, you don't have to worry about the facts because our viewers watch this channel. We're a propaganda channel, sir. You do not.

As long as they're watching our propaganda, you'll be fine. Sir, do not worry about the truth coming out. The people who are watching right now will not know it. Sir, I have a sponge. We're washing their brains. On your behalf, we've talked about this. I do, I laugh so hard imagining the new Supreme Leader of Iran calling up Trump. And he's like, Donald, we got the wood in the New York Post.

We got the daily news. I just did a salon.com hit HuffPost Live is running our op-ed. Like, what is he talking about? Yeah. They don't care about PR. He expects, like when he's lying about how other world leaders are negotiating with him, he transposes his own personality onto these people because he just, he's so, he has such an egocentric worldview that he's like, how could anybody not react the way that I would

react? This is how you act about something. Mushtaba Hamene, who is the Supreme Leader, the son of the former Supreme Leader, who we keep being told is, like, destroyed because of an airstrike, like, can't get out of bed, maybe is incapacitated. Meanwhile, Trump killed his entire family. No, he's thinking about, you know, placement in the daily news. He's like, D, did you see the paper? Donald. He's like, I know you just obliterated my entire family a few days ago, but New York Post, am I right?

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Also, just on this front, earlier this week, Trump was asked about oil and gas prices and about inflation going up because of the war with Iran. And he said to the assembled reporters, I love the inflation, which might be the most politically damaging thing a president could say. And it's also hilarious because when you throw like a definite article in front of a noun, you just couldn't sound older, right? If you're like, I love the Facebook, right? I was just going to say that.

You're giving up the game. Yeah. I love the Spotify. It is very boomer. Boomer coded. Yeah, boomer coded. Which, you know, when in Rome. But check out this clip from CNN's chief data nerd, Harry Enten, talking about the impact both of the gas prices and these comments on Trump's bowling.

Of the gas prices? The gas prices. President Trump may love the inflation. The American people hate the inflation. And I think the Republicans on Capitol absolutely hated Donald Trump's statement. Why? Because just it is absolutely funneling down. Okay. Democrats are more, are the party more Trump.

inflation. For the first time since the 1970s, it is true now today. We are actually seeing polling in which the Democrats are the party that is more trust in inflation. I was looking back at all the polls I can find. The last time it really happened in an average of polls was in 1978, of course before that inflation boom took Jimmy Carter out. And if history is prologue in this situation, well, it's going to take out the Republican majority in the House as well. So no wonder that Republicans heard that statement. And just like me, Or like, Mrs. White, what did I just hear? Well, you just heard a president who wants to sink his party's midterm fortunes.

That's what you just heard. That's what you just heard, pal. Can I do a quick aside? Calling it 1970 makes it sound so old. I know. I was like, wait, is he saying like 1870? Oh, no, 19. It's, have you seen those video edits on like TikTok or Instagram where Gen Z kids will go up to their coworkers?

No. The Gen Z kids on the TikTok will go up to their coworkers, and they'll be like, what year were you born? And they'll be like 2004, 2002, 2001. And then somebody would be like 19 and they'll immediately cut to the Jurassic Park theme song. Fuck, dude. I saw that movie in theaters.

Anyway, Donald Trump, keep doing interviews, I guess. Thank you for the quote. You know, the interesting thing about this, about the inflation stuff is it is one of the issues on which he literally catapulted himself into the White House. Like talking about inflation specifically, they deemed Joe Biden unacceptable expressly because of his handling of inflation. And now Joe Biden left office with inflation at 3%. Donald Trump has it at 4.2%.

So 33% higher than it was when, you know, public enemy number one, Joe Biden was overseeing this issue. It could not be more toned up, right? Like Bill Clinton would be like, I feel your pain. I hear you. At least I'm trying to fix it. Trump is like, I don't give a fuck. Yeah. Well, let me ask you a question.

Do you think that briefs? Okay. Let me ask you a different question. Do you think that it has an impact? Because we have seen so many instances where Trump says stuff and it's like Teflon Don. And so it's not going to have any impact. He says stupid shit all the time. Whatever comes out of Donald Trump's mouth on a random Tuesday would be enough to sink any other normal president in normal political times. What kind of an impact is him coming out and saying, I love inflation have? It's just like the perfect button that shows how checked out and indifferent he is to people suffering at a time when they're already pissed because of the reality. If prices go way, way, way down, if gas was like,

a dollar 50 a gallon like that quote doesn't matter anymore but i think prices are going to stay up through the election no matter what even if they get a deal right now it's him taking ownership of it and like we've already seen instances where even now the administration is still trying to blame stuff on on joe biden i think the latest was like screw worm the screw worm yeah is jose jose joseph naturally joe biden's fault did he like release a bunch of screw worm somewhere i didn't know and so like you know we're already seeing them continue to do that but i think you're right there's no sign that prices are going to come down. Trump is still engaged in this trade war. He's still engaged in the regular war, the military war. So that means consumer prices are going to stay high,

gas prices are going to stay high. And so this quote eliminates Trump's plausible deniability that somehow it wasn't him. He's just owned it. I mean, the only like, the only thing he can say is he's like, well, I've given so many of these bad quotes that this one doesn't really matter. Yeah. Yeah, sure. Yeah. I'll buy that. We can use all of them. I'll take all of them. Awesome. Also, so the other massive L Trump took this week was courtesy of the San Antonio Spurs. The Knicks were in the middle of this historic 13-game win streak until Trump decided to go to a game himself at Madison Square Garden and jinx the shit out of the Knicks. However, Wednesday night, Taylor Swift was in the house. Donald Trump was not.

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Timothy Shalameh. Keep that. Kylie Jenner. You got to keep that in. I don't know why I said that. I usually like to say it's named the funny way. I love those videos. Like, Timmy's like a real Knicks fan.

Like, he's been courtside for months now. Yeah. It's like really fun to watch these guys get hyped and get pumped. But I don't know. Were you watching last night? Like, it was a murderer's row courtside of celebrity. of celebrities. It's wild.

I mean, I don't think I have seen such, such focus on the, like, the court side seats in any sporting event, in any city as much as I'm seeing all this stuff. Like, these people are, I mean, as important as, like, the game itself. They're, like, immersed in the culture of the whole series. So I've spent zero minutes, like, looking into how this works. Like, I know Ben Stiller's been there forever. Somali's been there forever. Like, there's, like, Tracy Morgan's always, there's a bunch of celebrities that are, like,

Fat Joe. Yeah. Yeah, like Jack Nicholas used to, or Nicholson used to be at the Lakers games all the times. But I would imagine like MSG must have a process where they're like bringing in new celebrities. Yeah, they've said- To create a new cast every night for the courts. I mean, it is like a game within a game. Yeah, I don't think that they're looking for a different cast. I think at this point it's, okay, these are our rider dies. And so let's make sure that, you know, the people who've been with us the entire time that that they get to continue being here. And like I said, like they are part of. of the fabric of the culture of the 2026 Knicks. There was some interesting reporting about, like,

they don't sell these seats. They just go. And again, if you're a big enough celebrity and you draw enough attention to the game, then, like, they actually offer more value by being there than you would make by virtue of them paint. Kind of, like, in a regular season game, yes. In an NBA finals, when the whole world is watching this game,

because everyone wants to see, like, Wembe versus Jalen Brunson, It's like the, like one of the, it's the biggest media market in the world. Like, I don't know. Look, I know we're talking like 50 or 100 grand, 250 maybe. Like, what would, you could sell these court-side tickets for a lot of fucking money. Yeah, but I mean, what value. And also like, charge Adam Sandler. He's rich.

Yeah, but talk about the, think about the value that Adam Sandler, Taylor Swift, uh, Shalomey, Jenner, all these people. It's like, that's a person who is never, well, I guess she goes to Chiefs games because she goes to see her future husband play football, but like, is never at an NBA game that maybe brings in a new audience. I think, I think, I think, at that point, like I said, you know, as far as Timothy Shalameh and Adam Sandler

and Jerry Seinfeld and Fat Joe, like as far as these people are concerned, they have put in the time and they have given God knows how much value in earned media for their audiences. So like, what are you gonna charge them? 200,000 bucks now? Think about this, now it's time to give back.

Everybody in the world is watching this series, regardless. You're right. And so like, now it's time to give back. Like, these people who have brought their audiences every time they've posted, every time they've talked about it, they've brought their audiences along for the ride. Now it's like... Are these like real Knicks fans?

Do we know? Like, is Hymie, are they big Knicks fans? Is John McEnroe? Are they big Knicks fans? I just honestly don't know. Yeah, I'm not sure who's getting free tickets beyond like the OGs. I don't know whether some of these people who, you know, are not the Timothy Shalames. I don't know whether they're getting free tickets or not,

but I do think they're comping the OGs. Yeah, I guess what I would do if I were James Dolan or the Knicks ownership is I would, I'd let in, you know, Ben Siller for free and then charge the hedge fund guy next to him, like, 5X. Like, this is called welfare. Something tells me that Ben Siller is getting in for free and that the hedge fund manager is paying five X. I hope so.

Also, Ben Siller's filming it all on his iPhone, which is reportedly for an HBO documentary, which is both cool, but also like, doesn't that suck for him? Like, you're court side and you're watching through your phone? Yeah, but that's, that's like the experience for everybody on everything now. I know. I hate it. I mean, when was the last time you did anything? that you also didn't get like photographic evidence.

Honestly, I don't do that because I'm like a pretty software. They're like, if I make Coachella, I'm not going to treasure this video and watch it ever again. Also, boomer coded. Thank you. Yeah. What's Coachella? No, you're not using your phone. Oh, well, that's fair.

We like to say Picks or it didn't happen, you know? Yeah, I know, yeah, you text me Picks all the time, but it's usually for a different reason. Are you speaking of cultural events? You know, asking you shall receive, Tommy. Crane Plattenor over here. Are you going to watch the UFC fight on the White House lawn this weekend to celebrate America? I'm no, because like I don't, well, first of all, I'm not a UFC fan. I'm not really a UFC guy.

I'd like to go. It could be fun at some point, but I don't really watch it. Like, I don't, I've never done like a paper view in a while. I am, like, I'm not even a big basketball fan. I am loving this series because also, I mean, I was born in New York, grew up in Jersey. And so if I had a de facto team, it would be the Knicks. but I'm automatically sorted. All of my teams are New York teams.

And I've lived out here in L.A. for 15 years. I've not been able to adopt any of the teams. Like, maybe Kings because I just don't care about hockey, but I'm a diehard Giants fan, diehard Yankees fan. Oh, yeah. You're coming from Boston. I'm a lot of it. I hate all New York teams just like as like a habit.

I like, I normally honestly hate the Knicks, even though they sucked so bad for so long. It's like, what is there to hate? But it's how do you not like this team? No, I completely agree. And you're right. Like, if the Celtics were playing anyone, I would root for anyone else.

Yeah. And it's just like growing up, growing up in, you know, in the 90s and 2000s, as a New York sports fan, I hated all Boston teams. Yeah, because we kicked your ass. But I did love. Because we fucking destroyed you. That's not true. And everything.

Remind me what happened in 2011 with the Giants and the Patriots. I don't remember that game. You don't remember? Nope. I don't remember those catches on the hell of it. Well, you see, what had happened was. This is why you're on my enemies list. I believe you're also on the White House enemies list.

I am on the White House enemies list. What does that mean? in practice. In practice. I've seen you make some content on this, but I haven't like dug into what they said. So they have me as a media offender. They're compiling a list of content creators. What's that mean?

It means that they have, they have added me to this list as somebody who's been critical of the administration and so like. Hey, First Amendment. And so like, freedom of speech. I, what my goal is for as the result of being included on this enemy's list is, I get what the, what the White House. is trying to do. And they've been really successful at quashing dissent, whether it's with law firms, universities, tech CEOs, legacy media companies. And so they're like, all right, let's

just keep moving our way on down the list. And so now we'll go to content creators. The difference is we have no financial incentives wrapped up in the federal government. Like, I don't need anything from the federal government. I'm not looking for approval for some merger or acquisition. You're not palanteer trying to sell some software. fucking like rocket ship company that I need to get that I need to get like signed off on. And so I think that's where the administration fucked up because like independent media is independent. And so we don't, we're not, we can't be leveraged by the federal government. And so I've had so many people as I've been speaking out about this say, how do I get on this list?

This list is a badge of honor. Wear it. How do like you're, you're so lucky to be on it. And I want to make this backfire. It's like totally. I want to make this backfire as big as possible on the administration because if they think they're going to be able to go after independent media. and wield the federal government in the same way

that they have been for all of those other institutions and entities, they are sorely mistaken. So, and I know you've been lobbying to get onto the list as well. Different lists, you know what I mean? I was trying to just get on his cell phone list where he takes my calls. Yeah. You know what I mean?

You do have, you do have his phone number, right? Trying to break some news. I thought I did, but he's never taking my call one time. Yeah. Well, I know he's an avid watcher to liberal tears, so Donald. Donald, Donald, please subscribe. It's free. I'm trying to beat back the right wing forces

like Ben Shapiro. Seems to be beating back himself. Yeah. I don't think. Wait, we got to go to Tommy for the winks. Until like eight of them, Benzikor. Anyway, I feel like we're,

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