Breaking News from Pod Save America - Trump HUMILIATED As Epstein Crisis Goes Mainstream

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

Tommy and Jon are joined by Jane Coaston, host of What a Day, to break down the latest in Trump’s ongoing scandal surrounding the release of the Epstein files. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Donald Trump has some unbelievable new spin in the never-ending saga that is the Epstein Files debacle. Pedogate? Petogate? Goane Ghazi? Yeah. Anyway, here's President Trump on the right-wing, Real America's Voice Network. What are the things that are most important that you would like to see the FBI get to the bottom of? I think they could look at all of it.

It's all the same scam. They could look at this Jeffrey Epstein hoaxe also because that's the same stuff. That's all put out by Democrats. Yeah. And, you know, some of the naive Republicans fall right into line like they always do. They just don't have the sustainability. They don't have the something. They don't have that stick to it like glue.

The Democrats, you know, they have bad policy. They have bad candidates. They have bad everything. But they stick together. The Republicans don't do that. But they ought to look into the Jeffrey Epstein hoax, too, because that's another hoax that's frankly put out by the – pushing the Republicans and put out by the Democrats. But, you know, that was run by the Biden administration for four years.

I can imagine what they put into files. Smart to pivot completely unprompted to the scandal engulfing your presidency there. So John and I are very... My Jeffrey Epstein T-shirt is answering a lot of questions. So John and I are very excited to be joined today by Jane Koston from Cricket Media's own. What a day, Jane, you've covered the far right for way too long in your career. Yeah. You personally know a lot of these.

these mega influencers that Trump is now trying to silence until to stop talking about Epstein. Can you kind of help break down the gist of what is motivating the kind of different buckets of these guys and whether telling them to shut the fuck up or the FBI is going to investigate you? Is that going to work? So there are three main buckets here. And let's keep in mind that we're talking about like a bunch of people with a bunch of different motivations. But you've got the people who Trump made famous. They, you know, 2015. 2016, their careers were made by Donald Trump.

Yeah. And you're seeing that a lot online. And a lot of that has been the more like, how best to put this, really fucking weird shit that you've seen where you see like, you know, Dilbert's creator, Scott Adams, sort of arguing that, well, you know, what if. It's like, I'll trust these guys. Yeah. What if we let this list go out?

That means that Republicans lose in 26 and then the world is over. then wouldn't that be worse? And that raises a couple of questions. I'm like, why would Republicans lose if this came out? Now I'm more interested. But kind of like your online influencers whose career has been made by this. And they are definitely going with the Trump, you know, just shut the fuck up about this. Trust the plan.

That whole thing. Then you've got this second group of people who I think are the influencers who existed before Trump, who have glommed on to Trump because their fan base loves Trump. And those are the people who seem to be the most thrown off by all of this, especially because I think that they're experiencing conflicting pressures. They've got Trump screaming from above. But they've also got their own listeners literally calling in, like constantly. We'll play you guys one of those in a minute.

Yeah, we've got, you know, they've got calls, they've got emails. They're getting screamed at by their own audience. And then you've got this third group of people who are people, and I think that this is the group that especially interests me, kind of that swingy middle. And I think that a lot of kind of the podcast dudes, a lot of the people for whom voting for Trump was not part of their identity as being like rock-ribbed conservatives or being Republicans at all. But it actually had more to do with this kind of like, he's going to fuck with the establishment. He's going to take them all down or something like that. And those are the people who are the most like, what the hell is happening here. So on Wednesday, Maureen Comey, Jim Comey's daughter was fired from her job in Manhattan in the U.S. Attorney's Office.

Obviously, Donald Trump hates Jim Comey, as to many Democrats, by the way. However, Maureen Comey, in addition to being Jim's daughter, also prosecuted both Jeffrey Epstein and Galane Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein's associate who is now serving 20 years in prison. That seems a bit suspicious, no, John? And diddy. And Ditty. Don't forget Ditty. And Ditty. It does seem suspicious. Maureen Komi was mentioned before the firing in a Politico piece and that she had moved to try to keep some of the files and not release some Jeffrey Epstein information.

And because the normal DOJ thing to do when you have a case like this is to not release any information that would potentially harm the victims or potentially incriminate people who have not been charged with it. Gleine Maxwell is appealing. And that was the other one too, right? So in the New York Times write-up of this, they were like, so this is what she was doing. We don't know why she was fired, but she could be being, the administration could be setting her up as a scapegoat. Basically, the idea there would be, okay, she was the one who was preventing the information from being released, and now we're going to fire her.

But then, of course, that doesn't really think beyond to the next step, which is, okay, now that she's out of the way, where's. the info. Which is how, I mean, let's go back a couple of months because the entire, like, if you recall, Attorney General Pam Bondi, it was like, oh, you know, it's that New York FBI office that's not letting us get the files. And now, you know, we got to send a letter to Cash Patel being like, you got to give us all the files. And Cash Patel's like, I'm going to give you all the files. And here we are now. Here we are. And I did you see the story in the New York Times today that Ron Wyden's committee has been digging into Epstein's financial network for like three

years. And they found that four banks flagged more than $1.5 billion in transactions. Some of the Epstein money transfers were disclosed in a report by J.P. Morgan Chase. It involved accounts at two Russian banks. Some of the transfer sizes were as large as like $100 million. The largest, these are called Suspicious Activity Reports. They were filed by J.P. Morgan, Bank of America, the Bank of New York, Mellon, and Deutsche Bank. the largest report was filed in 2019 by J.P. Morgan for $1.1 billion. It was $4,700 transactions dating back to 2003, including payments to women from Belarus, Russia, and Turkmenistan. There was just so much evidence.

Like, first of all, there's so much evidence sitting in a file. Yes. Right. Like, there's just so much of this evidence somewhere in the FBI or DOJ. But also, oh, my God, that is an ungodly amount of money. Yeah, but he's a big art guy. He's an art connoisseur. A lot of it was just buying art.

And, you know, you got to buy art from women in Turkmenistan. Right. Everyone says that. The obviousness. Who are under 18 because those are the women who have the best art. Famously, that's what they say. A lot of the right wangers, like Alex Jones is the world. It seems like someone had told him that Trump was about to name a special prosecutor.

But moments ago, the White House press secretary said there will not be a special prosecutor because Trump doesn't want one. Yeah, they're really moving to shut everything down. No special prosecutor. Caroline Leavitt also said, well, in order to get some of those files unsealed, it's not the DOJ that could do it. You have to go to a judge, which is true, by the way.

A lot of the files are under seal. You'd have to go to a judge to get them unsealed. But it is very interesting that they're all saying this now when they made it sound. Like, it was very easy to release all the files when Pam Bondi had her binders for all of the crazies. I have never seen Donald Trump handle anything worse. I don't mean, like, morally.

I mean, like, if you were trying to do, a PR thing. This is the worst PR I've ever seen. I detect a flaw in his logic. I know that's, I know that sounds crazy. But he now, in that clip that you played originally, he now is saying that the Biden probably put fake files in there to incriminate him. And then Caroline Levitt's also saying that the Biden administration didn't do anything for four years. So basically the plan from the Biden administration was slip in some fake files about Donald Trump

to incriminate him or to embarrass him, don't do anything with it. Sleeper cells. Leave office thinking that maybe Donald Trump would win again and then the whole thing would blow up in his face. That is the logic that Donald Trump has laid up. Yes, and that is why, as you just said, Jane, this has been an unmitigated disaster from a PR perspective for Trump.

And some of these biggest bootlickers, the kind of bucket of like, you know, either Trump made or built a huge profile because of him, like parts of the Nagam movement. They're like begging him to shift strategies. Let's watch one clip here from Charlie Kirk from TPUSA. And look, my one piece that I would say to the president privately as well is have an understanding of your supporters and your followers here and know that they're not trying to take you out.

They're not trying to fall for a hoax. And I could tell you amongst the young people that I'm following right now, they don't really know how to analyze or process this. This is, I would say, Mr. President, this is not a Trump resistance from a lot of the young people, from the college bros and the crypto bros and the podcast people. These are not never Trumpers. And I could tell you right now, Gen Z is really fired up about this, especially young men. I mean, we're getting flooded with thousands, hundreds of thousands of comments that are very unhappy about this. Okay, Jane, so I think that Charlie Kirk clip is very important for a couple of reasons. First, like, it was interesting, which John and I talked about this, how TPP USA actually allowed some space at their conference last week to talk so much about Epstein.

Maybe you have no choice because, like, Tucker Carlson's not going to do what Charlie Kirk says. But it was notable, and I think he's clearly hearing from the rank and file that, like, they're pissed. Right. But also, I think more fundamentally, Charlie is getting at why the Epstein scandal is not a sideshow and is actually foundational to MAGA. because Trump voters like Trump because he is seen as outside of a system that they want to burn to the ground. And it's a system run by an elite class

that Maga despises in some of the fringier cases, the kind of Alex Jones cases, they think it's a class of evil pedophilic, you know, Satanists who drink the blood of children. Like that's Q&N. Right. But if Trump is seen as like covering up for this elite cabal, he's done.

Yeah. No, it's a, to that. point at that same conference, you know, Steve Bannon talked about this, and you had kids asking questions like, what's more deep state than covering up for pedophiles? And I'm like, you know what? That's a solid point. That's a solid point. That's what the deep state was invented for. That's why it was created. Yeah, it's also interesting to me that you had a bunch of Fox News personalities at that same event. You know, Laura Ingram talking about this. And then clearly, I mean, they get the call from on high, like, stop talking about it. And I think like media, I had

something today being like they just stopped like basically i think brett bear brought it up but like all of the evening shows are just been like who went unmentioned what are you talking about clearly the fox brass made a call and i think trump has been calling around to some of the mega influencers being like hey i need you to button it up well i mean he called charlie kirk and a couple days ago charlie kirk was like i'm not going to talk about this anymore but clearly this is like the one time he got all those calls he got all these calls from people who are genuine i mean they're calling into every right wing radio show being like what the fuck yeah so Whenever there's a political scandal or like a narrative that feels like a big deal to people like us,

it is always smart to do a gut check and say to yourself, is this really only a thing with people who watch Rachel Maddo every night or read political playbook, right? And I think because the biggest divide in politics is freaks like us who care about and talk about and read about politics every day and then the normal people who engage with politics like for a couple minutes a month. And we're going to play you a clip that, you know, moments like this clip lead me to believe. that the Epstein story and Trump's handling of it is broken into the cultural zeitgeist in a big way. So this is from comedian Shane Gillis, his monologue from Wednesday night when he hosted the Espies. Donald Trump wants to stage a UFC fight on the White House lawn. The last time he staged a fight in D.C., Mike Pence almost died. You don't have to do that. It was fine. I didn't write it. Actually, there was supposed to be an Epstein joke here, but as it got deleted.

Must have probably deleted itself, right? Probably never existed, actually. Let's move on as a country and ignore that. So for our viewers who don't know, the SBs are ESPN's Sports Award Ceremony. Not that many people watch it. I think it's probably like draws like three to four million people. But Shane Gillis's jokes in particular were everywhere on social media last night. They're everywhere today.

And let me tell you who loves Shane Gillis. the cohort of mostly male voters, young male voters who voted for Trump, maybe they voted for the first time, but they saw him on Joe Rogan or Theo Vaughn or the Flagrant podcast. Those dudes fucking love Shane Gillis.

Right. Can I give you an interesting take on Shane Gillis' joke? A little cope here from Benny Johnson. Oh, God. Oh, boy. Comedian Shane Gillis calls January 6th staged and makes a Jeffrey Epstein murder joke that has crowd roaring at the SB's.

We control culture now. What? Benny Johnson is so stupid. The joke was that Trump did January 6th and is covering up the Epstein files. That's the joke. Benny Johnson is the person who constantly leads you to ask the question, lying, stupid, or I guess both is probably the answer. I mean, I just, again, a Russian-owned media company thought that was worth like $400,000 a month, which I'm like, I am so much cheaper than that. I just want it to be known.

Jane, did you watch the SPs? I did not watch the SPs. I did get a lot of SB content because I'm a sports watching person, but I did not watch the SPs. There was an incredible joke. Shane Gillis starts with a Shoha Tani joke about his bookie. And then he goes, a bookie is what Bill Belichick reads his girlfriend at bedtime.

The very horny caterpillar, the little engine that needed a pill first, and good night boobs. It was very funny. It was very funny. And Shane Gillis is also one of those comedians who, you sort of alluded to it, like, he got hired to work on SNL when he was like, nobody. He was like a writer living with like three roommates. People surfaced a bunch of racially insensitive things he had said, in particular about Asian people, I think.

I think, yeah. He was immediately canceled and fired from the show and then came back to host the show. So he's sort of seen as like an anti-cancel culture hero, though. I don't really think he's, no. No. No, no. I think that, I mean, this again goes to one of the challenges that we have. we talk about politics and culture is that like we want to like pull people bucket people like

i keep trying like keep saying like joe rogan is not a conservative right like joe rogan and paul ryan would like i don't know what they'd talk about except lifting maybe there was some cnn polling about like oh well you know trump's republican vase loves him even more than ever and i'm like well yeah but it turns out that the american voting public is not made up of 50% hardcore republicans right 50% hardcore Democrats. It's a lot of like Republicans, Democrats and like a weird, squishy middle of people. It's like, I mean, it's like... That swing elections.

And but the degree to which Trump is like, stop talking about this, stop talking about this. And not one thought about like, there are people who survived what Epstein did to them, who are still around, who are still doing stuff, who are trying to make it through, for whom this entire thing must be unbelievably painful. Oh, yeah. Because, you know, I was doing some research and you talk about. women who were trafficked by him for years. Women who were hired to work,

who Maxwell hired to work with him, for him, who were then asked to go out and recruit other girls, but weren't allowed to tell them what they'd be doing. Like, it's unbelievably fucked up. This whole thing is unbelievably fucked up. And for Trump to wave it in front of a base

for about five years and his allies. Like, you know, it's not just Trump because there are a bunch of people online and were like, well, Trump never literally said, that he wanted to release all of the files. So checkmate. And I'm like, no, fuck you. But for that, you know, for Cash Patel and Bonino and the whole host of people to keep repeating that like, oh, we're going to get this, we're going to get this, we're going to get this, we're going to get this.

And to really layer on to that Q-a-nonification of childhood sex abuse and the assault of women. And then for so many at the very top to be like, who? Yeah. I know. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. Exploited. I think what it tells us is the cover up politically is always seen as worse in the crime. Because all you needed to know about Trump and Jeffrey Epstein was said in this New York magazine quote in 2002, this is Trump on the record about Jeffrey Epstein.

I've known Jeff for 15 years, terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It has even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do. And many of them are on the younger side, no doubt about it. There are quotes, there are images, there are videos, everything we need to know about whether or not Donald Trump is in the Epstein. files is in the public record. Mick Mulvaney, his former chief of staff, said at an event like today or yesterday that he knows that he believes Trump is in the Fteen files, it's all out there. This, it's just interesting that Trump being seen as covering up, his might be the thing that opens the door to his base, finally being able to hear that and see it for themselves. That is it for us. Thank you all for watching this Positive America exclusive here on YouTube. As we've discussed, the right wing is kicking her ass on YouTube. People like Benny Johnson,

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