Breaking News from Pod Save America - Trump Staff Fight EXPLODES Into Public, Bongino Threatens to Rage Quit Over Epstein

Episode Date: July 11, 2025

Tommy Vietor and Jon Favreau discuss the continued fallout in Trump World over the Jeffrey Epstein files. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

John, I'm not kidding when I say this, that I think that Trump's handling of the Jeffrey Epstein case is the biggest threat to his political future ever, maybe. Is this Katrina? Since January 6th. Yeah, this is his Katrina. It is. Jeffrey Epstein is his Katrina. Check out this breaking news from CNN. All right.

This breaking news, sources tell CNN that Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino has told people that he's considering resigning amid a major clash between the FBI and DOJ over the. the continued fallout from the release or lack thereof of the Jeffrey Epstein memo. Deputy Dan. Deputy Director of the FBI is reportedly so mad about Attorney General Pam Bondi's handling of this case that he had to take a mental health day. He didn't show up to work the other day. And he's considering resigning. The cliche is where there's smoke, there's fire.

This is like a volcanic eruption. And look, we're glad that he took a mental health day. Better help as a sponsor. Yes, you're right. So we think that's important. But it is funny when you, if you've encountered Dan Bongino in social media, I used to call him Roid Rage all the time, because he would just go insane all the time, scream at people, as you saw there.

He's quite muscular. This is our fifth installment, I believe, of this series. Epstein Compiland. Report. And if you had told me Monday that by Friday, Dan Bongino might be leaving the FBI over this, I would have told you that you were way down a rabbit hole and you need to, like, this is wild. I'm so red-pilled on this.

I can't even believe. But like, it's true. It's, it's, rightly so. Yeah. Rightly so. If Dan Bondi, if, if the deputy director of the FBI leaves over this. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, just to remind everyone, so Jeffrey Epstein, he's his disgraced financier and pedoph, who mysteriously

died in prison in 2019 while awaiting charges for sex trafficking minors. He's the scum of the earth, but he had high-level. connections, including relationships with Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, and yes, Donald Trump, what I believe Jeffrey Epstein said was his closest friend at one point. Been on his plane 20 times. Yep. The mega media world spent years in flaming their base saying Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself. This is a big cover up.

We got to elect Donald Trump because he's going to expose the truth and get us justice. Comments like this from Donald Trump Jr. How is it that my father can be convicted of 34 crimes, but no one... on Epstein's list has even been brought to light. How is, I'm trying to figure out how that's possible, right? It's almost like they're trying to protect those files for some reason. I can't imagine why, right? Hmm.

Well, your father was charged with 34 counts because he was guilty. He's a criminal. Yeah. And it doesn't seem like there's a list. Or if there is a list, your dad's covering it up. Again, as we talked about yesterday, there's sort of two options here. Either the Trump administration is covering up for Epstein and his associate. and heinous crimes, unimaginably heinous crimes,

or these creeps cynically used the abuse of minors to advance their political project for years. Right, which they, you know, it's a QAnon thing, it's a Comet Pizza thing, they like doing this. This is their favorite. They like exploiting, you know, child abuse, child trafficking, accusing people of it just to sort of stir up, stir up their base. And now they're reaping the whirlwind.

Yeah, their base is stirred. All of the metaphors. Yes. The leopards eating the face, all of it. All of that. So we've literally talked about this every day of this week because this is, this crisis in MaguWorld is growing. A couple of things we've learned since we talked about this story literally yesterday at this time. One, the Daily Beast reported that Trump considered pardoning Galane Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein's enabler in these crimes, who is currently serving 20 years, I believe.

Remember when they asked him about her and he said, I wish her well? I wish her well. So fucking weird. Two, Bill O'Reilly, former Fox News host, said he talked with Trump directly about the Epstein case in March and that Trump told him there were, quote, a lot of names associated that had nothing to do with Epstein's conduct, which may be explained to why. I wonder who. Yeah, there's no further information that's been released. Maybe like, I can think of one big name. I mean.

It rhymes with Honnold Bump. Yeah, no, I think that there's, I don't know, I'm getting red-pilled now as well. It's happening. Should we talk about the Wired story? Yeah, and then Wired magazine reported that the video DOJ released from near Epstein's prison cell, the night you was found dead, has been modified using editing software. John, thoughts on any of this? So, yeah, and I read the Wired story because first I got very excited by the headline. And it's possible that they could have used the software to like make it ready for public.

release until like splice two clips together. They did say they enhanced it in some way to make it more easy to see, I guess. But like, who the fuck is going to believe that now? Absolutely nobody. Absolutely nobody. I mean, I'll just say, for my years when we worked

in the White House, I had the lucky job of handling all of the kind of Benghazi related stories for like a year and a half. Good times. Once there is a factual discrepancy like this, once there is a missing piece, once there is a demand for some additional documents to be released or a further investigation, like the political fallout becomes endless.

You like literally cannot satisfy people who are going to want to know why was this edited, why was it exported into Premiere, Adobe Premiere, why is there a missing minute? Like none of the explanations are going to cut it. Yeah, there's no move they can make here that is going to satisfy people at this point. Their hands are tied. Yeah, they're screwed. And like, less do you guys think this is, A couple of libs, like overhyping this because they hate Donald Trump.

Here's Steve Bannon, of all people, talking earlier today about the MAGA outrage over Jeffrey Epstein. It's not about just a foul ring and all that. This is about who governs us, right? And that's why it's not going to go away. For this to go away, can we blow the break, by the way? Can we blow the break, guys? For this to go away, you're going to lose 10% of the MAGA movement. If we lose 10% of the MAGA movement right now,

we're going to lose 40 seats in 26. We're going to lose the president. They don't even have to steal it, which they're going to try to do in 28, because they're going to sit there and they go, they've disheartened the hardest core populist nationals that have always been who governs us. He makes a great point.

Look, all these voters, they came up for Donald Trump. They were promised that he and his administration would expose a horrible scandal. And they have refused. to do that and they have lied about it and Donald Trump was angry at a reporter for even asking the question. Scoled the reporter for daring to ask. And now the deputy director of the FBI is considering leaving because they have bungled this

so poorly. And like, look, Steve Bannon is a highly partisan individual. He's a propagandist. He's not someone who I trust to be factual. But he has his finger on the pulse of the mega movement. You know, that war room. podcast is kind of like the beating heart of the far right. And if Bannon is saying that publicly, like he's not someone who's inclined to come out and say things that would damage Donald Trump.

You know, he like kind of got over his frustration with Trump over the Iran strikes pretty quickly. This he's not getting over. Because like you said, the Iran strikes, much more consequential to the world, they come and go. There's a beginning. There's an endpoint. There's a, you move on. there's no end point to this. There's like, people are going to keep spinning out conspiracies. I promised Elijah I would ask you this, because I did this for Terminally Online today. Do you know who Alexis Wilkins is?

I heard of the name, maybe. I don't know. Cash Patel's girlfriend. Oh. Have you heard about the conspiracy? No. You don't? Okay, I got one.

Please tell me. Fill me in. There's a conspiracy going around that she is former Israeli intelligence. Oh, God. Jesus Christ. It's pretty crazy. It's like some connection to pray. You and Prager You was run by someone who was Israeli intelligence.

But the funny part of it is she was forced to go on Twitter yesterday and post this long thing about how she is not Israeli intelligence. And then Mike Lee, Senator from Utah, was like, I'm a fan. I stand with Alexa. This is how badly it's spinning out of control. Yeah, like my not a Mossad agent T-shirt is raising a lot of questions. And everyone's like, she's 26. She's so much younger than him. And he's not that good looking. so why else would she be with him?

It's a honeypot trap. They think that they think she's a honey. It's a honey pot trap. This is awesome. I don't know if you saw this. Pam Bondi tweeted yesterday. California officials are failing to protect girls on the playing field in the locker room.

The Department of Justice is filed suit. This is one of their many like anti-trans shitty lawsuits. The comments on it were brutal. It was like, how dare you tweet this when you're covering up for Epstein? If you want to protect girls, release the files. Like Pan Bondi is in. deep, deep trouble. Now, there's some reporting today. Like, it sounds like Dan Bongino despises Pam Bondi wants her out.

It sounds like a lot of people think she's stupid. But I think that Axio story on all of this said that Trump still likes her. Yeah, I'm sure Trump likes her because she is in his pocket. Like, I mean, she, talk about he's always wanted a loyalist as the attorney general. He also wants a loyalist who doesn't have much of a mind of their own, even if they wanted to. And that is Pam Bondi. Doesn't happen. It seems like a moron. Yep.

And we'll do anything he says. And now she has to be even more loyal to him because she's worried that he could can her over this, right? And so now she's going to literally do whatever he says. So of course he's going to keep her around. It's remarkable. And again, you know, like the political fallout from this is happening on the far right. It's happening with Steve Bannon. It's happening in sort of normie Republican circles.

Like we talked the other day about some of the coverage on Fox News and how bad it's been. We talked about Megan Kelly and how she's calling bullshit. And then we talked about the kind of the podcast, the comedy podcast circuit that Trump dominated during the election. They've been talking about Epstein a lot too. And they are furious at Trump. But it's not just Epstein. It's like a series of policy decisions that have gone over very, very badly among a lot of these new voters. Kind of like the Theo Vons of the world.

And here's a clip of influential comedian Andrew Schultz on his podcast, Flagrant from earlier this week. I believe when Trump, everything he campaigned on, I believe he wanted to do. And now he's doing the exact opposite thing of every single fucking know what he's done. Yeah, exactly to your point. If you tell me, it's easier for me to believe you wanted to do all these things if any of them were happening in the way that you said they were. To that point, like, there'll be people that they'll DM me, like, you see what you see what your boy doing? You voted for this. I'm like, I voted for none of this.

He's doing the exact opposite of everything I voted for. I want him to stop the wars. He's funding them. I want him to shrink spending, reduce the money. He's increasing it. It's like everything that he said he's going to do except sending immigrants back. And now he's even flip-flopped on that. Put it in an ad.

It's really good. It's exactly what we've talked about this this week. It's what we're hoping for, which is that the Epstein thing is not a one-off and that it sort of opens the door to a larger critique of Trump from people just like Andrew Scheld. And one that's not on policy. it's about trust and character and credibility, right? Yes. Well, with the policy support, the policy decision supporting the argument. For sure. But what they're talking about there is basically this guy lied to us.

And there's two very, I think there's a very understandable reaction to this that you see a lot on Twitter, which is like, ha, ha, ha, I told you idiot. Obviously he was lying to you. And what I'd say to people is keep that one inside. What would be very useful, I think, in that moment is to try to find ways to welcome guys like Andrew Schultz, his co-hosts, his audience, into the fold. You know, and then, like, part of this, I do think, you know, you and I talked yesterday about what could Democrats do to kind of fan the flames of the controversy around Epstein? There is also sort of an open question of like, okay, what can we do to, in this moment, demonstrate that the Democratic Party is a party of integrity or cares about these issues

sincerely or kind of like wants to get the substance of what's going on here. Yeah. He's right. Like, we're talking about this. Look, we're like, there's a lot of schadenfreude here. Like, we, Donald Trump cynically used the abuse of these young girls for political purposes. And watching him get absolutely fucked over by it is gratifying and fun. But there is a very serious element of it. Like, there's a very serious element of this, which is like, this horrible person got away with murder. These people were horribly abused. How can you, like, help them? How can you center the victims? How can you, like, you know, get these people some justice? And I think Democrats, there's got to be some

space there to talk about that piece of it too. I think so. And I mean, to Andrew Schultz, right? And I've listened to his longer interview that he did with the New York Times. And he was like, look, I didn't deportations. I thought it was like worst to the worst criminals. Yeah. Like I didn't want. Rogan said that too.

Rogan said that too. And even in the spending thing, right? It was like he's spending more. And you know what? It's like, and the reason he spent more is to give tax cuts to rich people. So like super rich people. That's not what those guys had really wanted either. And the Iran stuff, right?

So it's like, there's actually issues where we don't have to be just, like, laughing about Epstein. It's what our positions are on a host of issues that they can come around to, which I think we should be welcoming. Yes. And it sort of gets back to like kind of first principles, like, what do we want the Democratic Party to be? Yeah.

I want it to be anti-war. Mm-hmm. Like, not flexibly, not in all cases, right? I'm not like, Will Chamberlain. I'm not Neville Chamberlain anti-isolationist in the face of evil. But I think we should understand that using the U.S. military to solve political problems. doesn't end well. That's one. Two, we should be for working people. We should figure out how to cut their taxes, how to get them health care, how to get them services they need. We should be against

corruption. Yeah, we should be against corruption. We should think of a reform agenda like we did in 2006 after the Jack Abramoff, Tom DeLay scandals. It's like sort of quaint to remember what they're doing. What they're giving like free tickets to like football games? Who even fucking knows? They weren't, they weren't just like raking in money for crypto meme coins. Yeah, that's certainly not. Yeah. So there's an opportunity here for Democrats to both attack. and also just present a vision that is better when we got to seize it. Yeah, I agree. But until then, we're going to keep covering the story.

Yeah, Dan, hope your mental health day goes well. Deputy Dan. Deputy Dan. There is another piece of this. Maybe putting unqualified people in really important positions, not the best idea if I'm president. That was the theme of our POTS of America that's out today is that just from Christy Nome to Pam Bondi to all the, they have put the,

worst fucking people. Sean Deffey's now, the NASA administrator. How was he in charge of NASA? It's just, you know, you want someone with experience in real world and road rules and the real world Road Rules Challenge. I liked him on,

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