Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - #10 Second Date Update of 2025: Give Him The Golden

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

One of our listeners made a BIG ASK, a request we never heard before… telling a guy if he wanted any shot at dating her, he had to do THIS first. Find out what it is in your Second Date Update podcast!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The top 10 second dates of 2025, and you know, you know it's a big deal if Jeffrey came into the studio for the intro. Yeah. Yeah, I'm getting paid extra to do this, right? No. No. Sorry, Jeff. Oh, okay. Yeah, you're contractually obligated to be here with us and to have some fun.

So we're counting down top 10, and we're at number 10 today. Yeah. All right. Well, I'll put half effort into telling you what are you willing to do for someone before a first date? You're willing to clean your apartment, maybe buy a new outfit, break up with your husband, perhaps. Oh, dang. Brooke would give that last one some major consideration. But today, one of our listeners made a big ask, a request we'd never heard before telling a guy if he wanted any shot of going out with her, he'd have to do this first.

Oh, my gosh. And we could not believe he actually went through with it. You're going to hear it in your number 10 second date update of the year. Enjoy. Second date update. Is it okay to request something on a first date? Like what? Like a restaurant you like?

Like some girls may want to request you pay for the Uber home. Or guys might request that you split the bill with them. Okay. And I know, I always request complete. in total anonymity. That's why I wear a Lucha Libre mask when I meet them at the gas station. Because I will not be sharing

my real identity with you. And you have to be okay with that. Jeff Mysterio. Yeah, you really need to change up that mask because everybody knows it now. The thing is everybody has their thing. And our listener, Natella, not

Natella, Natella says she has a request in her dating profile and isn't sure if maybe it caused a problem. with her getting another hangout. So let's welcome to the show, Natella. Hi, guys. It seems like if it was in your dating profile,

it'd be hard to get the first hangout, not a second one. That was my thought, too. Yeah, it's literally spelled out. Well, yeah, there's a part there that you can put your voice prompt and you can record your answers. Yeah, instead of just, like, typing it out, they can actually hear what you sound like. 99.9% of the time they're bad, but...

I'm sure that's not the case with Natale. No, I'm sure not. I mean, you guys tell me. The problem that says All I ask is that you And then my answer is All I ask is that you don't Have a beard

Don't have a beard No beard A beard Why? That's easy I mean Even if a guy did have a beard If you liked you enough

You just stay or shave it off Is there a reason It's very specific I just don't like the beard I mean kissing a guy with the beard I've done it before And What about you Jeff is literally playing with his beard

As he's talking to you And just Stop No to be fair My roommate right now a like a breakout from making out the guy with a beard like give a blisters how hard does she push against somebody's face while she's making it out i don't know she's not good okay so you don't like being stabbed in the mouth with somebody's facial hair super uncomfortable it's not something i'm into so you know i asked that the guy who responded

please don't have a beard and of course the guy who responded has a beard oh well and it goes to show we don't always read it. We just say she's beautiful. Wait, hold on. That's on you then to not go out with them if you don't like the beard, because you can see his picture, right? Yeah, but I did ask him if he wanted to go out with me, if he could shave it off, and he actually shaved it off. Oh, wait. When I brought that up, I was kidding. Most guys take forever to grow a beard out. Oh, my gosh. So that was the request that you made of him before your date started is you cannot have a beard when we meet up. And he shaved her. And he actually did it. He did. Were you able to Can we know, what's his name?

His name is Michael. Okay. I was actually pretty impressed that he even did it. I know. Women usually don't get the say over a man's entire, like, look and appearance in wardrobe until like a year or two into the relationship. Oh, that happens a lot earlier than that. Yeah.

They just do it a little bit more subtly than you realize. And then finally a year later, you're like, wait, everything's changed. Why am I attracted to everybody now? But the fact that he did that before the date even started, that speaks a lot. Yeah, for him liking you. So what else happened on the day? Yeah, so we've continued to talk about my profile because he did mention another part that I have on there.

And what it says is dating me is like having a human version of a golden retriever. I'm always happy to see you. I will smother you with attention and affection. And once in a while, I nibble. Oh, they're going to say pee on the carpet. Yeah. Okay. I thought she was going with hump and a leg.

Yeah. I need those work, I guess. So I guess a lot of the date was talking about your dating profile then? Yeah, yeah, we did talk a lot about my profile. He didn't really get to see a lot of pictures of me because you're allowed to put six pictures and I actually ended up putting five of the same exact picture. What? Does that work?

I would think if I saw that on a dating app, I'd be like, oh. Why do you do that? Yeah. I do like a little mystery. Sometimes girls say a little too much on their profiles. Okay. So did he compliment you on how you looked when he met you? Yeah, he said he really liked my dress, and he was really impressed with how long my hair was.

I guess he couldn't tell him that one picture. Please tell me you wore the same outfit from that picture. Well, he just shaved his beard, so hair length is very tough of mind. He's like, wow, so long. Wow, you got to keep yours, huh? Let's take forever to grow that. Okay, so aside from all the physical stuff that we've been talking about, did you have a good personal connection with Michael? Like, what did you guys actually do?

So, yeah, we went to grab some wine at this really nice spot I know about, and we talked about paddleboarding and pharmacies. Pharmacies? We talked about our favorite ones because not all of them are nice. That's true. You know, it is true. The one by my house, the shelves are literally empty. It's so weird.

Oh, my house, too. The minus two. It's like, it's so scary. I know what you're talking about. What are you doing? It's really weird. My pharmacy is not like that at all. It's more of a conversation.

started than people All the guys are buying up all the shaving equipment so there's nothing left so that they can go out with Natella here. I'm surprised he's not calling you back because most of our pharmacy-centric dates that we've had before on the show, they always work out. So how did

you and Michael leave it? Well, I asked him, I said, hey, like, you don't want to let me give you my golden retriever. Oh, like a little nibble? Is that what you meant? When I rubbed my nose on his cheek and he didn't like it. He didn't like it. What's wrong with this guy?

You're nudging it with your nose. I'd be like, get off to me. Did you really do that? I thought she was joking. Well, I asked him, I said, do you want me to give you the golden retriever? And I thought he would like it, but he didn't think he was cute at all. Now I get it. I guess you were, like, trying to do an inside joke thing.

It just fell flat, unfortunately. Was that the only, like, awkward moment? Not that I could think of, but there could have been. Hmm. Well, let's see what he has to say when we call him. I don't know if he's going to pick up, but if he does, we're going to ask him some very important questions. Yeah, we'll get him, a golden retriever. Yeah.

Why do it sound dirty? When Brooke says it, it's like, definitely humping involved. I kind of like, I can't do a golden retriever, though, in my Lucha Libre mask. So I have to figure out a different golden retriever move I can pull. Let's figure that out when we come back and call Michael for your second date update right after this. Second date update. It's the question every man is dying to hear. at the end of a first date.

What's that? So, you want me to give you the Golden Retriever? And she rubs her wet nose all over your soft beardless cheek. I don't know, but I wanted to get Labradodled. But now I wanted to get that instead. But that's what our listener Natella actually did on her first date with a guy named Michael. It was supposed to be like a playful humorous thing

because in her dating profile, she describes herself as a human golden retrieval. I mean, when you set up like that, it sounds funny. It sounds like a funny moment. It's actually endearing almost. It kind of sucks that he didn't take it very well. We don't know. The nose rub move could be the reason Michael's been a little avoidant.

But Brooke, you're usually rubbing stuff in the first five minutes of meeting. God, is there anything else stand out to you? I don't know. I mean, it could honestly be that you only put one picture up on your hinge account. And so... Maybe she looks a little different from it. I mean, it could backfire. Yeah.

Maybe you just weren't what he was expecting. Yeah, he's suspending a black. slab and got a golden retreat. What do you think of that, Natella? I don't know. I think I really scared him a little bit with my nose kiss. Oh. Okay.

I think that that should be fun. I think that if a man, you would go. Yeah, actually you would. Never mind. Yeah. I mean, maybe he just doesn't have a good sense of humor and then you don't want to date him anyway. Brooke would be like, what are you're a dog? I'm a walrus.

I'm a horror. Maybe he has intimacy issues and that was too fast. Like he doesn't kiss till the third date. Okay. And the nose rubbing, it went a little bit quick. There are guys that do not kiss on the first date. There's no base for nose rubbing. It wasn't a kiss.

Well, maybe in his mind, it was. It's kind of like a bunt to me. You know, if we're going to do a baseball analogy. It's weird. Why is no one think it's weird? I'm just saying, everybody has different standards when it comes to physical touch and intimacy. So let's call him. We'll see if he answers and we'll pick his brain a little bit, okay?

And I don't mean that sexually, Brooke. So get that out of your mind, okay? I mean it, though. All right. Here we go. Hello? Hey, is this Michael? Yeah, I was speaking.

Hey, man, my name is Jeff from a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning, and the whole show is here. What's up, Michael? Good morning. Yeah, we heard a little bit about a date you went on. Oh, this is kind of weird. Yeah, Brooke, coming on a little bit stronger, okay, already scaring him. We heard about your dating life, so we hunted you down. Yeah, no. What else are you supposed to say?

Just how are you? Yeah, like normal people. But, look, Michael, we're doing a segment on our show. It's called The Second Date Update. I don't know if you've ever heard of that before. Actually, I think I have heard of that, but it's on like a podcast or something. Yeah, they're really popular. Oh.

Yeah, we have a good podcast. Well, if you know who's doing that podcast, let us know so we can do a cease and desist because that's not okay. Yeah. The lawyers are really upset about them. Probably talking about our podcast. Oh, maybe ours. Oh, yeah. Ours was number three at one point.

Okay, but I'm calling you because one of our listeners said that she went out on a date with you. and hasn't had a follow-up since then, and she's kind of bummed about it, wants to know if there's a reason. I'm talking about Natella? Oh, okay. I see where this is gone. Yeah.

Yeah, I remember. It's going to where you explain why you haven't called her back. Hopefully. Well, look, I'm not sure how much she told you guys, but it got a little weird. Oh. Hmm.

The dog thing, huh? No, let him. Yeah, what about it was weird to you? Because when we heard it, it all sounded very, very normal. Yeah, and there was some humor mixed in. Like I said, I just heard someone say about the dog thing, so we've heard a little bit, I'm sure. Yeah, I mean, she told us that she likes to joke about herself as being like a human version of a golden retriever. Oh, yeah.

Because she's happy. That's like been trying to do the past year. You guys have no idea. What? We're talking about the golden retrievers in general because it was on a profile. And out of nowhere, she, like, puts her nose on the edge of her wine glass. and starts slapping her wine like if it was like a dog

drinking a bowl. She was putting her tongue in the wine. Your tongue reached the wine in the glass. If they filled it a good fill, I mean, that's a nice bar. I'd like to know what bar she was too. There's more though. So after that, I was already a little weirded out

and she's like, want to play games. I was like, sure, why not? She's like, you have to guess how much I like you. And she starts panting like. Panting like a dog? And that was the indicator of how much she liked you is how much she was panting?

I'm not sure what the answer was, but she just, like, panted harder, so I don't know, maybe that means she likes me more. Was her tail wagging to behind her? Like, I don't understand. Like, how far did this golden retriever joke go? Well, there was another weird part, which was basically she, like, put her wet nose into my cheek, and I didn't even on how her nose got wet. See, that was the part that we had heard, and we thought it was good. But that's good, though, because a wet nose does indicate she's healthy. Yes.

Oh, why is it wet? She's had all of her shops. She's in good health. She told us that she knew that was a regrettable moment for her. I thought she was going to pull out a leash. Well, okay. So she took the golden retriever joke a little bit too far. But I don't think that should take away from the connection that you guys had because...

Did they have a connection? Well, I mean... Was she a good girl? She said that she liked him. I can't hear her panting on the other line, so I don't know how much exactly, but she is waiting to talk to you. speak sit oh man

are you joking right now no I forgot to tell you she's listening on the other on the other phone oh great Natella are you there

hi hi coming in pretty normal yeah I bet you're a little embarrassed she doesn't have to be embarrassed no wait

what you said he doesn't Mattella he was saying that you maybe took the golden retriever stuff a little bit too far for his liking yeah but he also didn't tell you that we had a really good connection like we talked about paddleboarding a lot and remember our conversation about the pharmacies

michael it's not great yeah i mean look there there was good parts of our conversation it's just other parts were like significantly weirder significantly i mean i don't know what you thought was weird i'm guessing from what i'm listening is that you thought the doc thing was weird but you have to understand like where I'm coming from golden retrievers they're like sweet and they're loyal and you know they're playful we know that without acting them out nobody ever says yeah look at that hot golden retriever yeah okay well think about this like you can't have a golden retriever without the girl you can't have a girl without the golden retriever you see what are you saying that you're always a dog it's my profile michael it's what it says on there

I have to live it up. He didn't memorize your profile. So you're not willing to back down on the dog stuff? I wouldn't even know how to back down. I am a golden retriever. That's who I am. She's learned sit, stay, but not back down as one of the commands yet. So, okay.

I'm starting to kind of see this is more than a better. She takes it very, very seriously. Maybe it's like kind of convenient. It's like a girlfriend and a pet all wrapped up in one. Hey, you can eat peanut butter together. the couch. Is that something that would be appealing to you, Michael, in a relationship? Because if it is, we would offer to

pay for another date with Natella. Or actually, maybe I should ask her first. Natella is, is that something that you'd be up for? Yes, I would. Oh, my gosh, he fart. Jesus. Oh, girl. Okay.

That is not. My tail's lagging. Oh, man. We're in public. Do we have a gift card? I want to get on. What's going on? One of those breweries where you can bring your dog? Yeah. Brewery.

Oh, wow. Natella, are you a furry? Do you do that? Oh. I'm very well groomed if you're asking. That's not. That's not close to the question. But now I'm afraid to ask you anything else.

Don't ask. Just ask Michael. Michael. We'll pay for this. I don't want to call like pet control right now. Yeah, we will fund this new date if you want to do it. Michael, would you care to bark back your approval to her? Yeah, two marks is a yes.

Guys, I got to be really honest. I don't know if our weirds are matching up. Yeah. That's a good way to put it. He's a cat person now. Alexis gets you. I'm just going to make her want to chase after him even more. Hey, Michael, I'm like so turned on right now.

Oh, my goodness. I got to go. I think we all got to go. Mattela, I think it's a no this time. It might be a no right now. but wait till he sees me tomorrow, it's going to be a yes. No, tomorrow. She's going to have a newspaper in her mouth.

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Are we sure? Because I'm scared for what guy matches perfectly with that. Oh, there's a dog catcher out there who's, like, looking for her right now. I mean, that was strange. Yeah. I don't know how, like, I don't want to be judgy because everybody's into their own things and stuff. But it's just, like, maybe you stick within that community that's also into the same. You know what I mean?

Like, maybe we date within the community that understands what you like. Yeah, behaving like a dog most of the time. Yeah. I just know I've never recoiled more than when she said, I'm well-groomed, if that's. That's what you're asking. I know. That was not even close to the question that I was asking. Yeah, it's something I could never actually say.

Yeah. I look you wanted him to be into it because I want to hear an argument between them when they start growling at each other. Oh, God. Don't you talk. I don't want to hear that. Yeah. It's calls like these that made me think God is going to do another biblical flood soon and start the human race over from scratch. We're getting to that point.

All right. Call Noah. Save the dogs. So we're ready. Wait, which one's a dog? Yeah. But, you know, if you ever want some help with your dating life, with your love situation, email the show. We can call that person who's not calling you back and go check out all of our second dates.

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and they were sabotaging logging equipment in the woods. She received death threats before the bombing. you receive more threats after the bombing. I think that this is a deliberate attempt to sabotage our movement. Episodes of Rip Current Season 2 are available now. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What are the cycles fathers pass down that sons are left to heal? What if being a man wasn't about holding it all together, but learning how to let go?

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