Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - 2nd Date Update PODCAST: Bassist

Episode Date: March 15, 2019

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Hi, I'm Ed Zitron, host of the Better Offline podcast. And this January, we're going to go on the road to beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada, to cover the Consumer Electronics Show, tech's biggest conference. Better Offline CES coverage won't be the usual rundown of the hottest gadgets or biggest trends, but an unvarnished look at what the tech industry plans to sell or do to you in 2025.

I'll be joined by David Roth of Defector and the writer Edward Ongueso Jr. With guest appearances from Behind the Bastards Robert Evans, It Could Happen Here's Gare Davis, and a few surprise guests throughout the show. Listen to Better Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever else you get your podcasts from. Today's Second Date Update. Ashley is on the phone, and I'm having trouble telling what Ashley does for a living because her email said she's a bassist. I don't know if that's another word for a dental hygienist or if I'm saying it right.

Or is it bassist? A bassist? Like a fisherman? Is she a fisherman? Ashley, are you a bassist or a bassist? What are you? Well, listen, if I had anything to do with dental hygiene, I'd have a heck of a lot more money.

I am a bassist. I play bass in a band. That's sweet, man. I still don't know what that means. Okay, well, that's the bass. Where does fish come in? Where do the fish come in, Ashley? You know, you got the big mouth bass hanging on your wall, but that's an entirely different monster.

Okay. Okay. So you play in a band. Yes. All right. And is that how you met the guy you want to call today? He was impressed by your bassing skills? Yes, it is. I've been promoting my band with a couple of my bandmates,

and we tend to go to shows, and we hand out flyers to similar-sounding music. And, well, I guess Billy was one of the guys that took a flyer, and he seemed pretty straight-laced for the kind of music we play, but he was really nice, and he ended up coming to the show, and he brought a couple of friends, and we hung out afterwards. You say straight-laced, so what kind of music do you, but he was really nice and he ended up coming to the show and he brought a couple of friends and we hung out afterward. You say straight laced. So what kind of music you play? Polka?

Easy listening type stuff? We're definitely a little bit more on the alternative side, a little more rock almost. Okay. Kind of punk. Okay. Was there a famous band that we would know that would be like your sound? We have a very similar sound to the Arctic Monkeys. Okay. No idea who that is, but sweet. Okay. So he came to your show? Yeah. Yeah, he did. And did it feel like he came because he liked you? I don't know if he

came to see me, but he certainly stayed afterwards because of me and our conversation. Oh, cool. That's cool. Okay. How long did you guys hang out? It was a pretty late night, actually. He came back to my house and he was over until about two-ish. All right.

So by coming back to your house, does that mean you guys played instruments together? You know, made music? We just made out. That's all that happened. That's awesome. Well, that's obviously he was into you then if he went back to your place and made out with you. Yeah. Do you think he was expecting more and was disappointed that he didn't get it?

I hope not. It didn't seem that way. He was the one that said he didn't want the night to end, but he didn't seem too pushy. Okay. It doesn't seem like he was just trying to get laid, basically. No, it didn't seem like that at all. And what was it like when the night ended? We kissed goodnight, and he said he had a really nice time, and he left. So have you guys talked at all since?

No, he's, like, completely ghosted me. Why do you think that? It could be anything. I mean, I've been told my place can be a little bit intimidating. Why? To be honest, I grew up in a pretty sheltered household. And so now that I have my own place, I kind of like to take advantage of art when I see it. You know, if I go to an art festival or a street fair and there's a statue or a painting that speaks to me in some way, I will buy it. So there is a lot of art in my house. Is it like art that some people would find weird?

Some of them are, yeah. Yeah, but he stayed for a couple hours and he made out with you. So, I mean mean if he could still be in the mood around your art he probably wasn't too freaked out about it i would assume so could be that he really just liked my music and it had nothing to do with me as a person or he didn't like my music and wants nothing to do with me as a person i think if it was one of the things about your music he wouldn't have gone and made out with you. He would have been like, ah, well, whatever. We'll hang out at the bar

and then I'll leave and I'll be like, man, she's great. I can't wait to purchase her song on iTunes and listen to the bass. But I don't think he would have gone

and made out with you. I mean, I wouldn't think so either, but at this point I'm at a loss and I listened to your guys' show and I thought this might be a good way to figure out

what's going on. You're an interesting person, Ashley. Thank you, I think. You're like, you play in a band, like a punk band. You're an interesting person, Ashley. Thank you, I think. You're like, you play in a band, like a punk band. You're into all sorts of art, and then you like this show for some reason. Yeah, what? You're random. I wouldn't have expected you to be a fan of this show.

Well, you know, you're a delivery driver. You've got to listen to something. Oh, okay. And you're a delivery driver. All right. Okay, she's stuck with us. You're interesting. There it is. Okay, well, I'm going to play a delivery driver. She's stuck with us. You're interesting. There it is. Okay, well,

we're going to play a song and then come back and call and get your second date update, alright? Great, thanks guys. Yep, hang on. If you're just joining us for today's second date update, Ashley is on the phone and Ashley is a bassist. What does that mean?

She plays an instrument called the bass. Oh, wow. You've come so far. They have it in these things called bands. Oh, my goodness. Oftentimes, there's multiple instruments. Well, she plays the bass in a band that she describes as sort of punk, alternative, rock, punk mix, rap mix. No rap.

She didn't put rap in there. Not pop either. Pop, hit, rap, pop, punk music. Uh-huh. Is that close to what the description is, Ashley? Yeah, I think that's a fair. Okay. Perfect.

Perfect, great. All right, I'll stop trying to figure you out now. But she wants to call a dude named Billy today. She actually met him at a show, and they hung out for a while, even went back to her place and made out. But now she's not hearing back from him. She thinks maybe her art collection kind of weirded him out. But other than that, everything seemed to be going fine.

All right, Ashley, I'm about to give him a call. You ready? Yes, I'm ready. I cannot believe this guy isn't calling you back. Because everyone knows the hottest member of the band is always the bassist. Obviously. Seriously. You deserve a call back.

Thank you. Or I will go out with you later. Yeah, sounds like it. I have a thing for bassists. I just can't help myself. That's a no. All right, we'll move on. I know, this is all awkward now.

Well, not the first time. Let's call Billy and see how that goes. See if that goes any better. Here we go, Ashley. Hello? Hi, may I speak to Billy, please? This is Billy. Hey, Billy.

How you doing, man? You just waking up? Yeah, I was doing a little nap. Who is this? This is Jubal from Brook and Jubal in the Morning. Sorry to disturb your sleep, man. Uh, yeah, no problem. Why did you say you guys are calling? I'll explain.

My name is Jubal from Brook and Jubal in the Morning. It's a radio show, okay? Okay. Okay, and we do a segment on our show called The Second Date Update. I don't know if you've heard of that I haven't heard of that, I mean Even if you did, you probably wouldn't even know it right now You sound like you were in a deep sleep

So if you go out on a date with somebody and then don't call them back after That person can email us to get you on the phone and find out what happened Okay So we got an email about you from a woman named Ashley. I know an Ashley. Okay. Okay. And the Ashley that we're talking about is hopefully the same one that you say you know.

She plays the bass in a band. Okay. Yeah. You know her? Yeah. And you guys hung out the other night. You watched her show, hung out at the bar, and then made out with her at her place. Okay. yeah. You know her? Yep, and you guys hung out the other night. You watched her show, hung out at the bar, and then made out with her at her place. Okay, yeah.

He's like, yeah, I'm on the same page as you, finally. Sounds like you're starting to get with it some more. Good morning. Ashley emailed us because she hasn't heard back from you, and she wants to know if she did something wrong. Oh, okay. I mean, yeah, she texted me a few days ago, and I don't know if I should really get back to her.

I mean, it was a good time, but I just, I don't know, you know. What's making you question it? I don't know. I mean, we went back to her place after her show, and, you know, everything was great. We talked quite a bit. We made out a little bit. It was cool.

It was a good time. Yeah. She told us all that, so she thinks the problem is she had a bunch of weird art, and it kind of creeped you out or weirded you out some way. Actually, that was pretty cool. Like, it was pretty cool. Okay, so it's not the art. What is it, then?

Because it sounds like you guys have a lot in common. I don't know. At the end, things just got kind of weird, you was pretty cool. Okay, so it's not the art. What is it then? Because it sounds like you guys have a lot in common. I don't know. At the end, things just got kind of weird, you know? Okay, what specifically happened at the end? We got done making out. We kind of went just chilling on the couch, kind of just chatting, started to get tired. You sound like a tired guy a lot, so I can see you needing to leave. Yeah. guy a lot so I can see you need to leave yeah yeah but I mean it was late it's probably around

like I don't know 145 to or something at that point so I had a legitimate reason but I said uh you know I probably should get going she's like okay cool why don't I walk you out and then I was like you know you don't need to but she insisted. So as we're walking towards my car, she got really serious. And she's like, yeah, it just looks like I'm going to actually have to be moving out of my place. And she said, like, just being a part of the band just doesn't pay enough. It's not cutting it. Right. And she said that she had just lost her day job and she's just really hurting.

Wow, that sucks. And Billy don't date broke chicks. Is that it? All right, then bye. Yeah, all right, get out of here then. I only date chicks with jobs. My name's Billy. I'm going to go take a nap now.

Is that what happened? No, it was the fact that, like, after that, she actually asked me for a donation. What? Like, for rent or for food or, like, anything I could help out with. A donation? Like, she set up her own GoFundMe page and she wanted you to contribute? Essentially.

She went old school. She asked me to walk to an ATM with her. What? Wow. Hold on. Yeah. It looked like she was about to cry. So I was like, I felt compelled in that moment to give her some money.

So I actually gave her $300. $300? I thought you were saying $20. I mean, i felt like we really connected up until that point and like i felt like this is a chance for me to do a good deed so i gave her 300 and i actually felt pretty good about it at that point but it really wasn't until like i got home i was talking to one of my roommates about it, and he was like, dude, you are an idiot. You just got played. I didn't really think of it that way because we had such a good chemistry,

but I was like, dang, did I? I was kind of going back and forth about it. I mean, it is kind of shady sounding if you just meet somebody and they ask you to give them some money. Did she specifically ask for $300, or that's what you just decided to give her? I just gave her $300. She didn't really say a specific amount.

Wow. Okay, baller. That's a lot. Hold up, though. Billy, you were okay with donating $300 to her. At that point, we're still thinking you guys would hang out again? At that point, I was thinking it, because I hadn't even thought about being played at that point.

I was like, okay, this girl is really cool, and just the look on her face looks so genuine i don't know maybe she's a good actress or something so then it was when your roommates told you that you're being played that that's when you decided not to call her back well yeah that's when it kind of kicked in i'm like oh crap i didn't think about that this is like i've never had an experience like this before you know where we have a good time and then someone asked me for money. I didn't even like register. Oh, I've had a lot of those experiences where you have a good time and someone asks you for money. Usually you make that deal beforehand though, Billy, not until at the end of the whole thing,

you know? You take all night. Yeah. It's a quick thing. But Billy, you are such a good person that you would still consider dating someone who asked you for a donation. If I wasn't being used, which I'm, that that's the thing. I don't even know at this point. There's a good way to find out if you're being used, Billy,

and that's to ask Ashley who is actually on the other line listing and wants to talk to you. What? Yeah. Like she's been here the whole time? I think so. Ashley, you still there? Hey. Hey, Ashley. Billy,

that wasn't my intention. Do you really think that i was just using you i mean i don't know like what do you guys think i mean it sounds kind of weird but i mean we haven't heard ashley's explanation so it sounds weird using the word donation and not loan yeah actually why don't you i mean were you trying to just get money from him? No, he offered. And honestly, you know, everybody has their low points and I'm kind of in one right now. And it was just a really generous thing. When you said that you'll walk him to your car, that you didn't already have in mind walking him to an ATM on the way to get cash from him?

No, I really didn't. I mean, but you did straight up ask him for a donation. That is kind of weird. Yeah, I mean, you asked him for money, Ashley. Look, I'm sorry. I was in the moment, and I felt safe with you, and I shouldn't have said anything, and I shouldn't have asked, and I shouldn't have asked and I wish I could just give it back but I've already paid my utility bills with it and I just I can't right now but I'm so sorry I made you feel that way that that wasn't my intention I don't really know

what to say I mean if you're I don't know either for you, Billy. I mean, like, you seem sincere, but that also feels like maybe you're just super manipulative. Because I think it's really strange that you would ask someone on a first date for money. Like, you don't have friends or family that could help you out if you're in that tough of a spot? I mean, not really. My life is kind of a band, and they're all in a very similar boat. Oh, come on, Ashley. A band struggling? Never heard of it.

Never heard of it. I feel you. Billy, look, there's one way to find out if Ashley's being straight with you about not really just trying to use you for money, and that's to go out with her again. Would you like to go out with Ashley on a second date? We will pay for it. We did have a good time, so i guess i'm willing to give it another shot really yeah i realized that um things are probably really weird for you right now this whole

situation's weird and um how how financially uh distraught are you right now why are you asking that right now how much is your bank account? I mean, is there a specific amount that you need help with? What? No, Billy. Are you offering again? Don't offer any more cash. Just go out with her again.

But I mean, I feel bad. I accuse her of stealing. And if she's really hurting, I can help. I really can. No, the point is don't help yet. Listen, Billy, if she's really hurting, I can help. Like, I really can. No, the point is don't help yet. Listen, Billy, full transparency, I am not in a good situation right now, but I will figure something else out. Well, I mean, just, you know, full transparency on my part, one of my roommates actually is moving out soon,

so if you do need a place to stay. Okay, hold on. Just go out on the date, you guys. Before Ashley, you move in with Billy, or Billy, you get more money, or whatever you guys are doing. But congratulations, you did get a second date, Ashley. Oh my God.

Awesome. Yeah, and it looks like a house on top of that. So, good work. Maybe it's a paycheck. Yeah. Broken Jubal in the morning. I got a text in at 78592 that says, Billy's going to be broke by the end of the week.

I would agree with you. We're talking about today's second date update. Ashley met this dude, Billy, at one of her band's shows, and afterwards they went back to her apartment and made out and had a great first night. Well, we called Billy, and he said the weird part of the night was when she told him that she was about to lose her apartment and asked for a donation of $300

and even walked with him to an ATM so he could withdraw some cash and give it to her. And after the date, Billy's buddies were like, I think she's scamming you. Yeah. She said she didn't plan to do that. She's just at a low point and needed some help. And it just came out naturally. Yeah.

Just walking to an ATM is so natural. And by the end of the call, he offered Ashley more money and even said she could move in with him if she needed to. So overall, very successful second date update for Ashley, I think. Yeah, for her. I really hope she's not scamming him. Oh, dude. His salary is now her salary.

Exactly. Remember, if you want to do a second date update, all you have to do is email the show and we will call the person who didn't call you back. Ugh, we're so done with New Year, New You. This year, it's more you on Bumble. More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you finding Gemini's because you know you always like them.

More of you dating with intention because you know what you want. And you know what? We love that for you. Someone else will too. Be more you this year and find them on Bumble. Joel, the holidays are a blast, but the financial hangover, that can be a huge bummer. If you are out there and you're dreading the new statement email that reveals the massive balance that you may have racked up, well, you could use our help. That's right. I'm Joel. And I am Matt. And we're from the How To Money podcast. Our show is all about helping you make sense of

your personal finances so you can ditch your pesky credit card debt once and for all, make real progress on other crucial financial goals that you've got, and just feel more in control of your money in general. You know it. For money advice without the judgment and jargon, listen to How To Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever to you in 2025. I'll be joined by David Roth at Defector and the writer Edward Ongueso Jr. with guest appearances from Behind the Bastards, Robert Evans, It Could Happen Here's Gare Davis, and a few surprise guests throughout the show. Listen to Better Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever else you get your podcasts from.