Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - 2nd Date Update PODCAST: Burn It Down

Episode Date: June 4, 2018

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You know how the old saying goes, don't dip your wiener in the company pen holders. Nobody puts wiener in that saying. Don't give your wiener to a co-worker. No, it's don't dip your pen in the company ink. In the company... Wiener. Oh, ink. That's weird.

I'm the weird one? Am I saying it wrong? I don't know. Anyway, Julian is on the phone today for a second date update. His email said that he met the girl who he wants to call today at work. So I'm guessing it's a coworker or something. Julian, how are you doing? I'm good.

How are you guys? Good. So you're trying to dip your wiener in the penny. Oh, right. Enough. Right? Is that what this is about? No.

No, it's not at all. Okay. Tell us a little bit about the girl that you want to call today. She's a co-worker? Well, she's not a co-worker. She came in purchasing supplies at the office that I work at. So I guess she's kind of a client co-worker. Nice.

Seal the deal there. So did you ask her out while she came in to deal with, like? No, because I think that's unprofessional. Basically what happened is she came in and she was working with me or I was working for her, however you want to say it. I didn't want to cross the line, I guess. And then she ended up coming back because she hadn't got her parking ticket validated in the lot. And then you validated it with your wiener. Oh, my God.

Am I right? Or am I right? No, no, no, no. I validated it and then had a nice conversation with her when I walked her out to the lot. Okay. Well, where's the wiener come into this thing? I haven't heard anything about a wiener yet. No, there was no wiener involved in the validation. Anyways, I asked her if she would like to get dinner on Friday night, and she said she would. And I got her number and I called her and we went to dinner. What's her name, by the way? Christina. Christina. And how was dinner with Christina?

Dinner was good. I mean, I feel like we had a lot of chemistry and I like veal and not everybody likes veal. And she wanted the veal too. so we ended up ordering the same thing, which I thought was kind of a cool thing. And dinner went good. You guys both ordered veal. In other words, you're both fans of slaughtering baby calves. I like that about both of you. A little lamb. Seems nice.

That's not what I think about when I'm eating veal. I like the way veal tastes. I'm not worrying about the process. Oh, that's why I like it. I picture the whole thing go on when I'm eating veal. I like the way veal tastes. I'm not worrying about the process. Oh, that's why I like it. I picture the whole thing go on while I'm eating veal. Not why I like it. Not why I like it at all. You're making me like it a lot less by giving me that story.

So if dinner went well and everything else, why do you think she's not calling you back? You know, I don't know. I mean, there were a couple things. Now I'm trying to run the night through my head. And like, did I do something wrong? Did I have, you know, my fly open or my food in my face or how I ate? There's the fly open. There's the wiener. I knew it. I could tell just talking to you that you're a wiener guy. I knew it. Yeah, you're right. You figured me out.

Realistically, the only things that I think that could have possibly not gone well, I did have to take a work call, which I don't like to have to take work calls if I'm on a date, but I was expecting a client to call, so I had to walk away. Did you tell her at the beginning of the night that that was going to happen? I did not tell her that I was expecting a call. But when I got back, I said, hey, this is an important job call. I had to take it. I mean, did you leave her stranded by herself for like a half an hour while you were on some conference call or something? Well, no.

I stayed at the table for a minute and then walked away. But it was no more than 15 minutes long. I mean, and she had an appetizer and some wine. Okay, so it wasn't. was no more than 15 minutes long. I mean, and she had an appetizer and some wine. So I have a hard time thinking that that would be the reason not to call you back if you're like, hey, sorry, it's an important work call. Yeah, that me too. And then the only other thing, I'll be honest with you, you know, I'm not going to say the restaurant, but veal is is a particular type of food. And if you like veal, you like veal you like veal but i thought that it was okay and i kind of was like oh you know how's your veal and she's like oh it's great blah blah blah and i was like oh she's asked me and i was like it's all right it's okay and maybe i don't know maybe she thought i was

being hypercritical or a snob about the food but i wasn't i was just giving my honest opinion honestly i think both would be a red flag for me like obviously if a guy's taking a call in the middle of a friday night date he's going to be putting work in front of me our entire relationship wow i mean girls think i'm just saying like wait wait wait but first off you have to understand she's in the same business she knows that i'm in sale but she wasn't taking a call during the dinner because she's a buyer she's not a seller She's not as important as I am. I see.

So how did... No, she understands that sales, there are other time zones, there's other people, people that are working at different hours where when you're buying, you're not as, I don't want to say in demand, but sometimes you have to answer the phone when you're selling because if you don't, you lose out on sale, then you lose out on money, and then you can't afford the dinner. I think a red flag would be taking your wiener out at the dinner table, like you said you did earlier.

Okay, for the record, I didn't take out my wiener for any portion of the date, not for dinner or after anything. All right, so when we call her and ask why she's not calling you back. She's not going to say that, I'm sure. How did everything end with her? You know, I kind of went in for a kiss, and I kind of got more of a handshake, hug kind of thing. But it was a first date.

Was it awkward? I don't think it was awkward. It wasn't like I was an inch from her lips and she stuck her hand to me. I was kind of coming in to hug, kiss, and she kind of put her hand up a little bit. So it was, that's all. So she shut you down. No, it wasn't a shutdown. That wasn't a shutdown?

Sure sounds like a shutdown to me if you go over and kiss and get a handshake. Hand to the face. Have you heard anything from her since your date? No, I called her once and I've texted her three times. Okay. Well, we'll play a song, come back, call her and get your second date update, all right? Okay, great. Thanks.

Okay, hang on. Moving 92.5. Brooke and Jubal in the morning. Second date update. Julian is on the phone with us and today he wants to call a girl named Christina. And Julian claims that he wasn't shut down at the end of the date when he went in for a kiss, and she shook his hand instead. He still says that that wasn't him getting shut down.

But in my definition of being shut down, that is probably the best way to describe it. Listen, I didn't get shut down. I went in for a kiss. You know what? It was a professional date. You know, it was a work thing, so it wasn't appropriate. I understand. I didn't get shut down.

Either way, I think you got shut down. Yeah. All right, well, we're going to get her on the phone and see why she's not calling you back. Here we go. Dial the phone right now. Hello? Hi, can I speak to Christina, please? Yeah, this is she.

Christina, how are you? This is Jubal from Brooke and Jubal in the Morning. Who is this? Jubal from Brooke and Jubal in the Morning, the radio show. Okay. Why are you calling me? What is this? I'm calling you because one of our listeners asked if I could get you on the phone to ask you a few questions.

Okay. That's really weird. It's a segment we do on our show called The Second Date Update. So you recently went on a date with a dude named Julian. Okay. And Julian emailed us and said that you haven't been responding to any of his text messages or phone calls. So he thought maybe we could get you on the phone and find out why you're not calling Julian back. All right.

He told us how you met. You know, you're like a client where he works, and he asked you out, and he said you guys went out to dinner and had a pretty fun time. That's what he told you? Yes. Good time? So you didn't have a good time. I wouldn't call it that, no. Okay, what was wrong with it then?

Because according to him, everything was great. He thought maybe he seemed like a food snob to you because he disagreed with you on the veal that you guys ordered. Yeah, he definitely has a very refined palate, that's one way to put it. He also said that he took a phone call in the middle of the date.

Yeah, he did. It was a little rude. Okay, yeah, I could see how that would upset you. I mean, that wasn't even the worst part of the date. What was the worst part then? I mean, he's a very smooth sales guy, but he's kind of got this seething anger underneath all of it. He was seething anger underneath his charismatic salesman personality? I mean, yeah, that's literally the best adjective I can pick to describe it, seething anger.

What happened? Because when he described the date to us, he didn't say anything about anger or being pissed off. He's a very, very picky person and a very shallow person and quite rude, actually. What did he do? I mean, for example, he was super picky about the wine. I ordered red wine, and it was brought to me I guess in a white wine glass, and he got extremely upset, and he turned it away and made them bring it back. Is he one of those

a-holes at the restaurant that acts like he owns the place when he's somewhere and that nothing's good enough for him? Yeah, pretty much exactly like he went to the bathroom and when he came back he was in a huge huff and he said you know there's no more paper towels in the bathroom you know they this is a fancy restaurant and an establishment and people should be refilling these paper towels and going on and on about this tiny insignificant thing that how dare they oh Oh, my gosh. It is annoying when they don't have paper towels. I will say that.

But I don't know if I'd ever get that pissed off about it. It's not angry. It's annoying. It happens. Yeah. The absolute worst part of the entire night, that paper towel thing wasn't even it. I mean, he completely dressed down the waiter

and just disrespected him when we were leaving. As he's leaving, he says, I paid $40 for a piece of beer I wouldn't feed to my dead grandmother. Wow. You're lucky I don't come back and burn this place down. I was like...

Did I hear you correctly? He threatened to burn the place down? He did. He threatened to burn it to the ground. He said that to the waiter? I'm 100% serious. That was the comment of the night. I've complained to restaurants before, but I've never threatened

to burn them down. I will kill everyone here. I will destroy this place. Did he realize what he was saying, or did he act like this is just normal banter at a restaurant? No, he knew exactly what he was saying.

When we were leaving the restaurant, he turned to me, and then his attitude completely changed, and he made it sound like I had been suffering, and I was the victim, and that everything was absolutely horrible, and, you know, things I didn't really care was so insignificant. In his mind, he must have been standing up for you. Yeah, I really want him to stand up for me and burn down the restaurant we were eating at.

You know, some girls would be thankful for that. Some girls would be like, what a man. Chivalry is a man. Yes, he's a true gentleman. He threatened to burn down a restaurant in my honor. I know, it was really ridiculous. I mean, I said goodnight, and I'm going to leave it at that. That's understandable, I guess.

Yeah, I'd want to get out of there as soon as possible. Threats of arson on a first date usually aren't a good thing. I don't want to talk to that a**hole ever again. That's a shame because he's actually on the other line listening and wants to talk to you. Are you serious? Yes, I am. Hey, Christina, I wasn't angry.

I was standing up for you. I was standing up for you. I was standing up for having good service at a restaurant. I mean, I work hard for my money. And you know what? The service sucked and the food sucked and there was no paper towels. What kind of place doesn't have paper towels? You have to wash your hands to go eat and they don't want you to dry your hands. I mean, right?

I mean, I'm not going to not wash my hands. I looked, I saw there was no paper towels, and I'm like, I'm going to wipe it on my pants, and I'm going to walk out, and it's going to look like my pants are wet. I couldn't even impress you with that. I was like, I wasn't angry. I was being chivalry.

I mean, I was defending you. You're trying to burn the place down. I mean, how is that chivalry? That's just threatening. Okay, okay. I think I shouldn't have said that. That was me getting frustrated because I was like, okay, the paper towels is one thing.

The wine was another thing. The appetizer is another thing. The veal was another thing. I got so frustrated. You've got to stop talking. I've heard this already. I heard it at the restaurant. I'm hearing it again. You're just repeating yourself. You know, if you keep focusing on little insignificant things and being a rude a** to everybody,

I don't know how women can stand to go on a date with you. It's no wonder you've been divorced twice. What? Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait. You just brought up my two divorces. My ex-wives, I shared that with you. Are you kidding me? I mean, that's rude.

That, that, that, that's mean. But that's an example. It's two strikes. And so this woman clearly couldn't deal with all of your crap. And neither can I. My crap, my crap, because I want good customer service, because I'm in a restaurant and I want some customer service. You should be a decent human being and be respectful about it.

You weren't respectful. You just brought up my f***ing ex-wife. I'm not talking about you. This is about people in the service industry. You don't have to threaten people. You know what? I'm in the sales industry. You know what?

I take care of customers. They need to take care of customers. You should know this. I mean, we're in this industry. I don't even know what to say. I've stated this industry. I don't even know what to say. I've stated my case. I don't know. In the service industry, sometimes you have to put your foot down to get some respect.

So I was doing that with the waiter and the restaurant. And you know what? I think you need to show me a little respect. Because you know what? I was defending you. I think so, too. That's why I'd like to ask Christina, would you like to go on a second date with Julian? Holy crap. We will pay for it. Hell no. No, I don't. You answered so, too. That's why I'd like to ask Christina, would you like to go on a second date with Julian? Holy crap.

We will pay for it. Hell no. No, I don't. You answered so quickly there. Not if he's going to talk to me like that. No way. Julian, you're crazy. Are you sure?

I mean, I could find you guys a great restaurant that Julian could burn down. I'm going to pass on that. You know what? If you want to settle for mediocre service, then you know what? Go date some schlep who will take you to the drive-thru. I want to go to a four-star restaurant where they treat you like a customer. We're right. We are supposed to get this stuff.

Come on. I mean, really. You know what? You know what? You've pushed the envelope so far. I was fine just not going on another date with you. But you know what? I really don't want to do business with someone who has ethics like you.

Oh. Oh. Oh, now you're taking personal and you're putting it in business, really? I'm going to tell the people I work with, my company will not be doing business with your company anymore. Oh. Are you kidding me? Based on a date? You know, it wasn't a date.

It was your f***ing attitude that did it. I'm done with this conversation. Goodbye. Oh. Wow. Oh am done with this conversation. Goodbye. Wow. Julian. What just happened? You didn't get a second date, and I think you might be losing your job soon, too, over this.

Because I want customer service? Well, I think it's because you threatened to burn the place down. Yeah, you're a total douchebag about it. I apologize for the burning the place down. I mean, that was, you know, it was one bad thing after another and it pushed me beyond. But, I mean, the rest of the stuff was all customer service. No paper towels, slow service, bad food, wrong glasses. Yeah, we know the list, man.

Broken Jubal in the morning. Text in at 78592 says, I like how his whole attitude changed when she said she didn't want to do business with him anymore. Talking about today's second date update, if you missed it, Stu Julian wanted to call Christina. They actually work together.

Their companies do. And he went out with Christina. She said she wasn't calling him back because he got a little aggressive the whole night. He was very picky about the wine, angry that they were out of paper towels in the bathroom, which I support him for completely. He even screamed at a waiter because he said he paid $40 for veal, veal that he wouldn't feed to his dead grandma.

Oh, jeez. Gosh, that says a lot because I feed a lot of veal to my dead grandma. And the thing about dead grandmas, they don't complain very much. They just kind of eat the veal. That says a lot because I feed a lot of veal to my dead grandma. And the thing about dead grandmas, they don't complain very much. They just kind of eat the veal. That says a lot, though. Good. Anyway, he also threatened to come back to the restaurant and burn it to the ground. He was so mad.

He sounds like a really reasonable guy, you guys. Real level-headed. Yeah. Who wouldn't want to date this guy? Yes. There's no red flags there. What's her problem? He claimed that his behavior was just defending Christina,

saying that she deserved a good four-star meal. He was going to burn the place down in her honor, I guess. Wow, what a prince. I mean, there's romance written right there. I think there's a movie that goes like that. She said no to a second date, and she also said that her company won't do business with him anymore. Yeah.

Well, it looks like that's a company that's about to get burned to the ground. So hopefully they have some insurance. Remember, if you want to do a second date update, just email the show. We will call the person who didn't call you back. Moving 92.5. Ugh, we're so done with new year, new you. This year, it's more you on Bumble. More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you finding Gemini's

because you know you always like them. More of you dating with intention because you know what you want. And you know what? We love that for you. Someone else will too. Be more you this year and find them on Bumble.

Joel, the holidays are a blast, but the financial hangover, that can be a huge bummer. If you are out there and you're dreading the new statement email that reveals the massive balance that you may have racked up, well, you could use our help. That's right. I'm Joel. And I am Matt. And we're from the How To Money podcast. Our show is all about helping you make sense of your personal finances so you can ditch your pesky credit card debt once and for all, make real progress on other crucial financial goals that you've got, and just feel more in control of your money in general. You know it.

For money advice without the judgment and jargon, listen to How to Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Ed Zitron, host of the Better Offline Podcast. your podcasts. sell or do to you in 2025. I'll be joined by David Roth of Defector and the writer Edward Ongueso Jr. With guest appearances from Behind the Bastards' Robert Evans, It Could Happen Here's Gare Davis, and a few surprise guests throughout the show. Listen to Better Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever else you get your podcasts from.