Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - 2nd Date Update PODCAST: Sorry Not Sorry

Episode Date: November 19, 2018

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LASIK at evergreen.com. Moving 92.5. Brook and Jubal in the morning's second date update. They say that one man's trash is another man's treasure. I already don't like the start of today's second date update. And that's why Tim is on the phone for a second date update today. He found a discarded date, and then he swooped in and got a date with her. He discarded it.

Tim, now, I don't want to call your date trash. It was just an analogy, okay? Yeah, I get that. Tell us about the garbage pickup. How'd it go? Yeah, let me back up. I went out that night to go see a play, and I just went by myself.

So I go to the theater, and I'm there, and down the row, a couple seats down, there's this girl. And she was pretty cute. So I smile at her, and she sort of smiles back. Did you throw her a wink, too? No, no. I did the polite, you know, like, smile, head nod, just like, hello, hi. Like, bite the lower lip, like, mm.

Oh, my God, Jubal. That's so creepy. Any of the proper moves are just simply a smile. Maybe I should have done that. Maybe I should have done that. You start talking about how this woman sounds like a sweater from Goodwill, and now you're, all right. So you smiled at her. I did, and the seat next to her is vacant.

So I get a little courage, and I kind of like walk down a little bit to the aisle and I just said, hey, is anybody sitting in the seat? And she said, yeah, someone else is going to come take the seat. And then that's when you yelled at her. Why are you yelling at her now? He was upset. No, no, no, no.

Oh, you didn't yell at her. No, I just said, oh, okay. I didn't ask who, you know, the seat was for. Right, because it's none of your business because she's a complete stranger in a theater. Yeah, but she also didn't say, you know, who it was for either. Like, if it was her husband, I

imagine she would say, like, no, it's for my husband or my boyfriend. Right. She probably would have let you know, stop hitting on me. Exactly. Yeah. In the nicest way possible. I feel like seat taken has already stopped hitting on me. Why are you guys saying, no, actually, I married him in a very long relationship, and this seat has been taken by him. Maybe there's this possibility that the seat is, you know, just for one of her girlfriends, you know, a friend of hers that she went to see the play with. Yeah.

Right. Okay. Okay, so you went back to your regular seat then? I did. I did. I said, oh, okay, well, you know, enjoy the show. And then I went back and the show started a few minutes later and it was good. But then through the show, I sort of kept an eye just looking over by her to see if anybody had showed up.

You almost sound like you're starting to get a little creepy. The guy at the end of the row that keeps looking over at her during the play. That's the thing. I didn't want to, so I did the peripheral vision to see if there's any action happening over there. Anyway, so intermission comes, and no one had showed up. Ooh, the mysterious

vacant seat. She's either lying to you or the person didn't show up. I went out. I got something to drink. Do the intermission stuff. When I came back in,, I went out, I got something to drink, do the intermission stuff, and when I came back in, I came in, so I walked past her to get into the aisle. And as I walked past her, I just said, hey, seat still taken? And she said, no, they didn't show.

And I said, oh, well, do you mind if I sit there? And she said, sure. So I sat down. Good persistence. Okay. You know, I would have felt weird going back up to her and being like, hey, what's up? You said somebody's coming for that seat, but it's been open this whole time, and I've had my eye on that seat. What's the deal?

Yeah. Are you a liar? You just lie to everybody? What's going on with you? Are you a liar? I didn't want to seem that way. I didn't want to seem like a creepy guy. It was more like I felt bad.

She got stood up on her face. It's kind of awkward, though. You're putting her in a position like, what is she going to do? Stick to the lie at that point? No, someone's still coming for the last half of the play? The good thing is, the play finishes, and we start talking, and then I just said, do you want to go grab something to eat?

She said, yeah, sure. That'd be great. That's cool. We laughed, and we want to go grab something to eat? And she said, yeah, sure. That'd be great. That's cool. Okay. Yeah. So we left and we walked to a place and we sit down and, you know, we talked for a little while, we get a drink, we get some food. Conversation's great. You know, it's not creepy at all. And I noticed that she started to get a little like tired. And so I was like, oh, you know what? Why don't we just call it a night? And she said, yeah, that'd be great. So I walked into her car, said goodnight, gave her a hug,

and said, can I call you? And she said, sure. And so I texted her a couple times, and I never heard back. And I was, you know, I thought things had gone well. And you know, then I emailed you guys. Did you ever find out who the seat was for? You know, we didn't talk about it at dinner because I thought if I brought it up and she stood up, it would be uncomfortable or make her feel bad. So I just stayed away from it. That's a good idea. So how long has it been since you guys went to dinner?

It's been like a week and a half. A week and a half. Okay. So she's definitely blowing you off. Yeah. And, you know, I just certainly think about why, you know, who was that seat for? Maybe it was for a boyfriend or someone that she was dating and he finally showed up. And now she's like, no, I don't want anything to do with you.

Maybe I was too forward, you know? Maybe I was the creepy guy in the theater trying to steal the seat. Yeah, so that's why I emailed you guys. Well, we'll play a song, come back, call her, and get your second date update, okay? Okay, great, thanks. All right, man, just hold on. Broken Jubal in the morning. You know, I forgot to ask the most important question about today's second date update.

If you just missed the first part, Tim is on the phone, and he wants to call a girl named Sarah today. They actually met at a play. She had an empty seat next to her. At the beginning of the play, he asked if he could sit in it because he wanted to move seats and sit next to her because he thought she was hot. And she said it was taken. And then after intermission, he saw the seat was still open, so he asked her again.

She ended up saying, yes, you can sit in the seat because whoever she was waiting for didn't show up. After the play, they went to dinner, had a great time, but now she's not calling him back. And I forgot to ask Tim this, and I'm sorry about that, everybody listening. I know that you really want to know. Tim, how was the play? No one cares about that.

Like, scale of one to five stars. What are we talking? Well, the first act, I was a little distracted because I was, you know, trying to figure out what the empty seat was about. So I think it was, like, a three. Okay, good. All right, cool.

Should we even do the second date update now or have we gotten that all cleared up? No, I still want to know why she never talked back. Okay. And, Tim, you can't remember any awkward moments you guys had when you went for dinner and drinks after the play? No, everything was real, like, casual and cool, and I thought I was being very, like, polite. And I asked a lot of questions about her, you know, what she liked. I thought it was a good conversation.

You actually seem very charming and like a good listener. So I'll give you props on that. Well, thank you. Thank you. Horrible play reviewer. Yeah. Jewel's got a point. I'm going to dial her phone number right now.

Here we go. Okay. Hello? Hi, is Sarah there? Yeah, this is Sarah. Hey, Sarah, how are you? My name is Jubal, and I host a show called Brooke and Jubal in the Morning. Okay.

How are you today? Fine, thank you. What's this regarding? Well, it's regarding a date that you went on just a little while ago. Okay. I know, we started off so business-like, didn't we? I know. You might not even think of this as a date, but you recently hung out with somebody, and they've been trying to get a hold of you to get another date, but you're not calling them back. So they emailed us to see if we could get you on the phone and find out why.

Oh, geez. Weird, I know. Good. His name is Tim. Seriously? Yeah. He told us about how he met you at a play and then you had dinner after.

So he contacted you to get a hold of me? Yeah, he did. Apparently he's been trying to get a hold of you, but you're not returning any of his phone calls or text messages. Yeah, I don't know. I'm just not into it, I guess. Oh, it sounded almost like for a second

you were excited that he contacted us. I was more surprised, not excited. Okay. Read that wrong, then. Yeah. Well, Tim told us about how you guys hung out. He said that it seemed like you had a great time, and he's confused. Wow.

I think he's an interesting person. I just, I don't know. I don't know how I feel about him. Can I tell you what I think it is? And you let me know if I'm right or wrong. Okay. So he said that when he saw you at the play, you had an empty seat next to you. And he asked you, like, twice if you could sit in it.

The first time you said you were waiting for somebody to show up, the next time you said, sure, they didn't show up. Were you waiting for a boyfriend or a husband or something like that? No. I'm definitely single. Okay. I actually just got canceled on by a friend. So, I mean, why would you say yes to him sitting there when he asked the second time and yes to dinner if you weren't interested in him? I mean, I was interested in him, but I'd only known him for like 10 seconds. And, you know, that kind of changed once I got to know him.

Really? I told him after we talked to him that he was charming and a good listener. Apparently, I also had a bad read on that. Yeah, I don't know. It was fine and then at dinner I just sort of got some red flags. What sort of red flags? Can you tell us? Basically, we were

walking into the restaurant and he steps on my heel and he just says oops and then he called me out. So he stepped on my heel and he just says oops and i can't call me out so he stepped on your he stepped on your shoe and then said oops yeah and like you know normal people would apologize if you just stepped on someone right oh yeah he didn't say sorry about that no he didn't say sorry about that? No, he didn't say sorry. It was really strange. And then at dinner, later he knocks over his glass and it breaks. And when the waitress comes and picks it up, he just says, the glass fell.

So he didn't take responsibility for the shoe or the glass. Yeah, exactly. No apology. You know, if that would have been me, I would have been so embarrassed. You know, you've broken the restaurant's glass. Yeah. He didn't apologize at all. So was he kind of a jerk then just pointing out, hey, glass on the ground, pick it up, please. Honestly, it kind of read like that. And that is not what I'm looking for. I'm just not into somebody who can't say that they're sorry. You know, I'm looking for someone who's more polite and can admit when they've done something wrong, when they've stepped on someone maybe or broken someone else's property.

I mean, it was the first date. And you'd think on the first date, that's when you want to be the most polite. And I think he just has some kind of problem where he can't say he's sorry. Okay. Sarah, I want to let you know that I don't have that problem. I think he just has some kind of problem where he can't say he's sorry. Okay. Really? Sarah, I want to let you know that I don't have that problem. And I want to tell you that I'm sorry to break the news, but Tim is actually on the other line listening and wants to talk to you right now. What?

Yeah, I'm sorry about that. Tim, are you there? Yeah, hi. Tim, is that you? It's me. Hey. So awkward. Is that the real reason why you didn't call me back?

Because I didn't say sorry? Yeah, that's the reason. I'm sorry? See, I can say it. I don't know why you're saying it. Why, I just said I'm sorry? See, I can say it. I don't know why you're saying it. Why, I just said I'm sorry? Yeah, it's just an empty sorry. What?

Wait, now you need sorries with depth? It just seems like, for me, so, okay, so we were walking in the restaurant. We were in the middle of a conversation, and I know what you're talking about. I stepped on your heel, and I sort of just went like, oops, in the middle of a conversation, and I know what you're talking about. I stepped on your heel. And I sort of just went like, oops. It went back to the conversation. It was like, sort of looks like a toss-off that it happened. It didn't happen on purpose. And it was in the middle of a conversation, so it was just like,

oh, oops. And we just continued. I didn't think it was that big of a red flag. A normal person would say, I'm sorry. Yeah, but I didn't step on you. I stepped on your shoe. Tim, are you serious? I would be apologizing if I were you right now. Yeah, most people would.

Why? Why would I say sorry? I didn't do any of those things on purpose. Sometimes when you don't do things on purpose, you can still say sorry. Like if you accidentally stepped on a shoe. Yeah, but those are just empty sorries. Because I didn't do it on purpose. It was an accident.

So if you were driving your car and you accidentally hit a pedestrian, you wouldn't apologize for that either because that wasn't on purpose. Well, whose fault was it? Seriously? Are you serious right now? That's a good point. No, I'm just saying. Your foot stepped on my foot.

How could that be my fault? It's not your fault. It was an accident. It's no one's fault. It's an oops. I have never really dissected the word sorry like we're doing right now. No, it's just I grew up that if you're going to say sorry, it's meaningful and you should say sorry for something that you did and then you realize it was was wrong then you're like oh you know you say you say i'm sorry for that but when it's like just an accident like you know if you bump into somebody she's like oops it's not mean it's

not negative it's just like oops and then the life goes on yeah but like everybody else grew up with common courtesy so even if you aren't going to say sorry you say excuse me or i didn't mean to do that. I just don't agree with that. Like if Sarah and I continued and we got in a relationship and then later on something happens where I should say I'm sorry and I say, hey, Sarah, I'm sorry, it would have such a huge meaning and she would really know, like, wow, he's really sorry. Hey, I cheated on you, but I'm really sorry. And you know I don't throw that word around willy-nilly. No, no.

Yeah, you shouldn't throw it. You're right. You shouldn't throw it around willy-nilly. That is so not what I expected your response to be to all this, Tim. Well, I'm not really sorry about it. Sorry I'm not sorry. Sarah. Yeah.

And you know what, guys, I'm not surprised. Okay, so are we done here? No, not yet, Sarah. We're almost done. But I do have to ask you if you would like to go on a second date with Tim, we will pay for it.

You know what? Sorry, no. It's so immature. It's so immature to say that with that tone. Like, now you're ruining sorry. Well, I find it immature that you can't use your manner that a six-year-old can use. So maybe practice that.

Six-year-olds say sorry for sneezing. They'll say sorry for anything. Look, I am an adult. I am a grown man. I only say sorry when it counts and when it's needed. All right. I like that. Oh, man. All right. sorry when it counts and when it's needed. Oh, right. I like that. Oh, man.

All right, well, sorry. All right, well, sorry. I can't even say sorry now without thinking about it. You can't. I won't say sorry because it's not my fault. Tim, you didn't get a second date. Whatever. Whatever.

Brooke and Jubal in the morning. God is a woman. Text in at 78592 says, that dude, Tim, is right. People throw apologies around with zero meaning these days. He's not wrong. God is a woman. her foot but he didn't say sorry that's why she wasn't calling back and then they got into an argument about sorry because he felt like he shouldn't have to apologize because it was an accident he didn't do it on purpose and she says he still should have apologized and then went back and forth and back and forth talking about what you should and shouldn't say sorry for in the end it doesn't really matter because he's not getting another date yeah there's a lot of a lot of debate now about the word sorry yeah people are very strong about

it yes they are a lot of people actually supporting the word sorry. Yeah. People are very strong about it. Yes, they are. A lot of people actually supporting him for not saying sorry, and then a lot of people calling him an a-hole. So text in at 78592. What should you say sorry for and what shouldn't you say sorry for? And it'll be a hot topic we probably won't discuss further because it's kind of boring. Anyway, if you want to do a second date update, all you have to do is email the show, and we will call the person who didn't call you back. Joel, the holidays are a blast, but the financial hangover, that can be a huge bummer.

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