Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Awkward Tuesday: Amber's Life Alert

Episode Date: April 28, 2026

After a difficult situation ended up with Kash GHOSTING his ex Amber, he wants our help to navigate the murky waters of opening up contact again, in an Awkward Tuesday Phone Call!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Sometimes. Sometimes. Hey, it's Brooke and Jeffrey and you found the second day podcast. We're trying out video with our podcast, okay? So now for the first time, you can see a second date update.

Yeah. You can see it. We've got it up right now on our YouTube page. It is one from last week. Yeah. It took us a little while to edit the video to go with the audio.

You know. We're working on it. It's a process. It's a process. Stick with us through the process. So if you want to watch a second date update you can today on our YouTube page just go to again

Brooke and Jeffrey so there you go I'll be curious to see what people think at the comments of it maybe we'll have this one two weeks from now yeah yeah you know you'll have to keep checking yeah we'll get there and you know if your comments are only about how disappointed and what we look like you are

then that's okay too yeah we expect it exactly but for now let's get to a brand new awkward Tuesday phone call, it's going to start. Here we go. Some things take every ounce of willpower

not to do. Oh. Oh, yes. Don't make a joke while you're in the middle of an adult circumcision. Don't make him laugh. Don't do it. That's a good point. Nobody, the doctor or the guy. You don't want anyone

shaken. Did it again. Oh, shoot. Too funny. Sorry, Tristan. We'll try again next Wednesday. But maybe even harder than that is finding the willpower to not text your X back after a messy breakup. Don't do it. Well, one of our listeners was able to hold off for a long, long time.

But today, he doesn't want to text her. He wants to call her. And you're going to find out why. What changed his mind in your brand new, Awkward Tuesday phone call. Next. It's awkward. It's Tuesday. It's awkward.

Tuesday phone call. You know what phrase you never hear? What's that, Jeff? I just had a great breakup with my girlfriend. Yay! It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. No, usually those are pretty messy, pretty complicated, a little sexy. You know, maybe one last hurrah, but for the most part, not great.

Yeah. But one of our listeners, Cash, says he achieved it. Maybe not right when it first happened, but shortly afterwards with the help of of his friends. Oh. And somehow that has led to a whole other issue. And he needs our help. We're going to find out about it right now.

Why are we going to mess with a good thing? Just leave it alone. It ended well. Apparently it's not so well anymore. Cash, welcome to the show, ma'am. Thank you. Oh, man. These are getting messy for you, bro?

Yeah, you could say that. Okay. Are we blaming the friends at this point or where are we at? No. Okay. What happened with you and your ex-class? girlfriend. Is that right? So, yeah, I was dating a girl for a long time.

Define long time for us, sorry. You know, over the course of like a year or two. This might be why they broke up. Or it's one of those, we were on, that we're off. We're on, that we're off, you know. Yeah, it was like that type of thing. Okay, so that was, it was on again, off again for, you said a year or two? Yeah, I must have been multiple years, I think, on and off again, you know.

And about four months ago, she got really mad one night and just dumped me. Oh. That's the spicy side of her. Yeah. But you like that you like that's a roller coaster you definitely knew you were on. She's not spicy for sure. And, of course, a couple weeks later, she texted me again saying she's sorry. Can we meet up and talk?

Back to the sweet side. Uh-oh. The other guy didn't work out. Yeah. So did you guys get back together? Well, my friends are like, dude, you can't fall back into it. You got to just ignore her. Cold turkey.

Don't text back, you know. And it was tough, but I didn't. Oh. I stayed strong. Wow. Whoa. You just left her on red. Yeah.

Good. Okay. All right. That's a tough decision. I mean, it's honestly probably the healthiest thing. Like, yeah. Those up and down relationships are, oh, we've all been in them before, but they're hard. And if anything, it's only going to make her think that you're even sexier.

She's going to want you. more. Right. But over the next few months, you know, she texted me every so often. It's like saying nice things, trying to lure me in. And my friends would kind of remind me, like, don't respond, don't do it.

Yeah. Okay. They are. Sometimes they'd take my phone for the night just to make sure I didn't text her back. Oh, no. After you started drinking a little bit? Yeah, you've got to change your name

and your phone to do not reply. You're right. So clearly the temptation was still there for you. Yeah. And you needed some help with like an intervention to make sure it was stopped. Yeah. It was hard not to fall back in the same kind of toxic pattern. And about a month ago, she texted me telling me that her grandmother just died.

And I had met her grandmother a few times. I knew she wasn't in great health. But my friends were saying, you know, don't fall for it. She's baiting you. Don't take back. Oh, wow. That's hard, man. Yeah, it could or could not be.

Yeah, totally. Brooke, how would you feel if you texted one of your exes that knew your grandma and they never responded back? Yeah, one time an ex texted me after a family thing. And it felt so good to write, who's this? I don't have your number saved. You did that? I really didn't have his number saved. Oh, my back, you were like, ooh.

I didn't really know who it was. That's so cool. And then when he went back, I went, oh, well, that was. Oh, you should have doubled down. Yeah. Still doesn't ring a bell. So after that message about her grandma, how many more did she send to you? Yeah, she didn't send me any more after that.

That was the last time I heard from her. That means it. I don't know. I think that means that she may really have needed somebody in that moment. Are you sure she actually passed away that? Like, did you stalk her socials? Like, so she posted anything. No, it's insane.

You check the newspaper obituary. Oh. Yeah. I didn't, but I mean, I'm pretty sure it had. I don't think she would lie about it. And like I said, she wasn't like really bad health. Okay. Oh, God.

So are you feeling like regret that you didn't support her when she needed it? Absolutely. I felt bad in the moment. Like, it was really hard. But even like three or four weeks later, I feel even worse. Because I was with her for two years, you know, we were really close. Yeah. So what are you needing our help with in that situation?

Well, I feel like now I've had enough time where I'm ready to talk to her. and maybe we can be friends. Good. That's really good. Right after you cold-shouldered her about her grandma passing. Now you're in a good spot to be friends. Yeah, I think like, you know, after a certain amount of time, it becomes healthier to kind of talk again.

Yeah. But it's just awkward. It's just like finding the way to break the ice is a problem. Right, because you want to go back and still have those boundaries that you're not going to get back together, but you also want to be there for her as someone who cares for her? I mean, kind of. I do really want to be your friend and it's been a while and I do miss her.

Okay. So we may be getting back on the ride. Yeah. But I think that's our challenge is how do we have this conversation without getting him back onto the ride, Brooke? It doesn't sound like he's totally off. Yeah, are we sure he doesn't want him back on the ride? He's saying he doesn't. Kind of.

Well, yeah. His brain is saying no. Who knows what is hard to say. We can kiss his friends, right? Yeah, exactly, Jose. That's it. Well, let's see what advice we can come up with for you. When we come back, give you our advice, and let you call your ex-girlfriend to say,

sorry I didn't respond when your grandma passed away, but we cool now? Yeah. Two thumbs up. See, it sounds weird when you say it. But when you say it, it's going to be flawless. Absolutely. During your awkward Tuesday phone call right after this. awkward. It's Tuesday.

It's awkward Tuesday phone call. I'm try to quickly recap this so we can get to your awkward Tuesday phone call. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. But a listener of ours named Cash reached out to us. And I don't think we've ever done a call quite like this before, because he dated a young woman named Amber for a few years on and off. She dumped him, and his buddy suggested that he go cold turkey. Yeah.

Doesn't respond to her texts. No calling her at night. night, zero contact. They'd been in that up and down cycle of breaking up, getting back together for a long time. Exactly. It wasn't an easy breakup necessarily. And guess what? She reached out to him

more than once. Yeah. And he stayed strong. Yeah. Until one night when she sent a text saying, hey, my grandma just passed away. A grandma that he knew too. And what did cash do? Nothing.

Like he was supposed to. And that was a month ago. And now he, looking back, pretty regretful about not being there for her in her time of need. And Cash definitely sounds like you do miss her. And you want to mend this friendship while still leaving the door open to the possibility of maybe more. Is that right? I mean, I guess never say never. Which is exactly what your friends don't want you to say.

But okay. But Justin Bieber wants you to say that. So that's good. Brooke, how do you recommend he accomplish that through this phone call? What do you think? The thing I think you need to realize, Cash, is that you left her on red after she texted you when she needed you. Like you were supposed to. Good. So when you, I mean, honestly, this call is going to come off like you're the one calling for a booty call.

Oh. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, you only call her when you need something, not when she needs something. I didn't think of that. Yeah. So to save you from looking like a terrible person, I think you need to maybe say, hey, did you get a. the flowers? Oh.

You know. Okay. Well, he never says I sent flowers. But did you get the flowers? Like, maybe let her just assume. What do you think about that, Cash? Implied that flowers were sent. I mean, I guess that's one way to do it.

It's not the worst idea I've ever heard. Jose, what do you think? Well, it does look bad that you didn't respond to her for 30 days. All right? So that's why I think you need to say something along the lines of. I've been so broken up over this, over your grandma passing away. I'm now finally emotionally available to make this phone call. It was harder on you that it wasn't her.

He loved her grandma, bro. Right? Won't make her mad at all. Yeah. Come on. So you've got two pieces of advice, two mediocre lies that you can toss her way. You're making it tough on me. I mean, you're the one who dug this hole for yourself,

so we're giving you a ladder to maybe climb out. I guess you're right. You're ready. That's what you mean. I'm ready. Here we go. It doesn't sound very mentally athletic. Let's get ready to lie to your ex-girlfriend. I'm dialing your number right now. Here we go. Hello?

Hey, it's Cash. Um, why are you calling me? It's been a while. I know how long it's been. Right. So I just, um, I guess I kind of felt bad about how things ended and okay I wasn't in a really great

place but I just feel like neither was I so that's not an excuse but okay you can keep talking at any time I had nothing to say I mean you seem angry so I'm just doing my best Okay, if you have nothing to say, then I'll ask a question. How come I haven't heard from you for months and I was texting you and you never responded, ever? Because I just wasn't in a good place. I didn't want to like... Yep, you said that already.

Neither was I. Come up with a better excuse. You can listen. I can explain it to you. You're talking too slow. That's not the first time you said that's me. Oh, my God. I am aware.

I also have a memory of our relationship, no matter how long ago. Well, then, if you have a memory, then you know that it was, basically we're in a toxic cycle, the same bullshit over and over again. So me not responding to you was an effort to break that. Why are you calling me now? What's the point? Why are you calling me now? because I feel bad about the way things I feel bad about not responding

when your grandmother died I just felt like I couldn't at that point and it took me a while to process almost 30 days it took you a while to process my grandmother okay so how is this general Funny thing about the whole situation

There's something funny about that situation Well I mean you're asking how the funeral is Was and I'm telling you that when I sent that text I thought she was gonna die that night But she didn't Wait what? She you know pulled through so there wasn't a funeral.

She's still alive. You're going to your grandmother dying? But she looked like she was almost dead. Your grandmother always looked like she was almost dead. Guys, Amber, Amber, can you hear us? Wait, I'm so, who is that? Who's on this call? Yeah, this is a radio show.

We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Yes. And we're doing a segment here. It's called The Awkward Tuesday phone call, because you're... You called me on a radio show. Dude, it has been eating him up that he didn't respond

after that grandma text. Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure it has. Do you not believe that? No, I don't. Why you thought your grandmother dying? I didn't lie. I genuinely thought she was going to die, but then you never responded,

so why would I update you? I always say her voice. I mean, that's... I feel like there's good points on both sides. Like, why would you respond to your own text? Oh, never mind. Yeah. Exactly.

Why would you presume somebody dead before they're dead? I don't know. My mom told me she was about to die that night. And are you a priest? What does that have to do with anything? A priest? Okay. I understand that this situation wasn't handled the best way.

Maybe on either side. You guys are an odd match to me. That's probably why they worked. Yeah, there's a lot of history there, obviously, a lot of fire and chemistry. And we're trying to get back to before the break in communication. Yeah. When we broke up something you don't know, my friends told me to go cold turkey and not talk to you. Why would they even get involved?

Well, because I think they saw the cycle that I was talking about. Yeah, but normally there's a conversation when a friendship ends or anything. anything ends normally there's a conversation. You remember you broke up with me right? Yeah, but you could have like responded. He wanted to respond but his friends wouldn't let him. That doesn't sound good job. Okay, so you only do what your friends tell you.

Well, ignore what I just said. Go back to arguing with each other. It wasn't just my friend. It was obvious me that you know. Who else have you talked to about us? You know what? I think what you need to do, Cash, is just tell her what you want. And moving forward. Let's look forward. What do you want to get in the future?

Well, I was hoping, despite all this fake deaths, we could maybe go back to having some kind of friendship because I have missed you. Oops, I'm going to hit the awe button. My bad. Okay, we're running out of time for our segment here, Amber, so I don't want to rush you into this, but what do you think? Honestly, right now, I don't think I want to be your friend at the moment. I don't think I want it anymore. That's a good boundary.

Well, Cash, call us back in two weeks and we can try this all over again. I'm sure it'll go better. No, same. We'll call on the grandma. Yeah, we'll see how she's doing. Let me know when your grandmother really died. Don't say that.

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That's T-W-O-Persent on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcast. or wherever you get your podcasts. You know they're hooking up tonight, right? No, there's no way. That's the type of couple that can't stay together but can't stay away from each other either. You know, the love is good, too. I really heard in her voice that she wants nothing to do with her.

I'm not going to lie, Jeff. I'd like to agree with Jeff, but I think... I know. I heard the same thing in her voice, but in her body, that's a totally different story. I'm telling you, Brooke. Her heart is yearning. We put money on this one.

That's the vibe that I got during the call. A lot of fireworks there, both good and bad, clearly. See, I got her just railroading him. Like, just running a moment. He would love to be railroaded tonight. I guarantee you. I guess that was the wrong thing. They definitely wanted to step back and process what just happened.

My money is on them processing it together. Close off. No way. This makes me want to call them in like a week and be like, okay, guys. I don't think we're ever. going to get an update because I don't think they're ever going to talk again. That's my money. That's my bad.

That's too bad. But you know what? If you want to do some processing, you can go process the content on our podcast. A lot of good stuff on there. Good segue. You find us at Brooke and Jeffrey. Listen, close off if you want. We don't judge.

2%. That's the number of people who take the stairs when there is also an escalator available. I'm Michael Easter. And on my podcast, 2%. I break down the signs of mental toughness, fitness, and building resists. in our strange modern world. Put yourself through some hardships, and you will come out on the other side,

a happier, more fulfilled, healthier person. Listen to 2%. That's TWA% on the I-HartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me.

Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey or my career in sports media. Well now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfilled of conversations with athletes,

creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Clifford show on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok.

When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. They take matters into their own hands. I vowed. I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that, trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends.

Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2023, Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd, was accused of fathering twins. But the pregnancy appeared to be a hoax. You doctored this particular test twice, Ms. Owens, correct? I doctored the test ones. It took an army of internet detectives to uncover a disturbing pattern.

Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg, a lesbian. Michael Mancini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is love trapped. Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences.

Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Dr. Maya Shunker, a cognitive scientist and hosts of the podcast, a slight change of plans, a show about who we are and who we become when life makes other plans. I wish that I hadn't resisted for so long the need to change. We have to be willing to live with a kind of uncertainty that none of us likes. You can have opinions. You can have like a strong stance. And then there's your body having its own program.

Listen to a slight change of plans on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.