Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Awkward Tuesday: School Mama Drama
Episode Date: September 9, 2026One overbearing mother got her son’s teacher to send an email to every parent in the class, and the drama its caused has shaken the school to its core and sucked us in for an Awkward Tuesday Pho...ne Call!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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All right, I'm just going to start this off with a comment from Ms. Moe, who said,
Alexis, second-aid update intros are to be split into two between you.
and homestay Ashton.
You get 45% and he gets 55.
We occasionally need someone to remind us how miserable and lonely we need the callers to be
so we can go to bed a little better at night, please.
So Ashton, take it away.
Thanks, I think.
Yeah, I guess I got the majority.
Okay, Awkward Tuesday phone call.
Oh, oh, yeah.
Gosh, what is even happening in this awkward Tuesday phone call?
All right.
Miss Moe, I hope this is what you want to.
Is this what you wanted?
This is what you get 55% of the time now.
I wasn't, I wasn't prepared.
All right, here it goes.
We're starting right now.
School is finally back.
All right.
Along with all the exciting stuff that comes with it.
Welcome back, kiddos.
Making new friends.
Yes.
Sewage plant field trips.
Fun.
And teachers hooking up behind the cafeteria milk coolers.
What?
Whoa.
All the good stuff.
But also it means the return of the dreaded peatidels.
PTA Zillas.
You know those parents
who are like helicopter moms on
turbo. And one of them
got a teacher to send out a very
bold email to other
parents. And now we're going to
help one of them deal with it in a
brand new awkward Tuesday
phone call. Back to school
edition coming up right after this.
It's awkward. It's Tuesday.
It's awkward Tuesday phone call.
Brooke, do you like when mom
get involved in their children's school?
Yeah.
I actually love it more when the dads do.
PTA, just going to put that out there right now.
Yeah.
Okay, we're going to cut that out of the segment.
But sorry, I should actually rephrase the question.
Do you like when moms insert themselves into their children's school business so much it causes drama with the other parents?
Still, yes?
Sure.
Okay.
No, no.
No, that's not what you should be doing.
But I ask because one of our listeners.
is having some mama drama at her son's school.
And now she's looking for a little bit of help to navigate it.
Her name is Abigail.
So Abigail, welcome to the show.
Hi, how's it going?
Ooh, you sound like the one that caused all the drama.
Listen to that nice voice.
Yeah, are you the drama causer or the drama receiver?
I think, I'm the victim?
No, I didn't cause it.
Okay.
All right.
Well, tell us what's going on with you and your son's school.
Okay, so we're talking second grade here.
So I got an email from the teacher, normal, but there's like a part of it is like you can't continue to pack your lunch for your kid with fruit snacks in it.
Fruit snacks.
Oh, I love fruit snacks.
I've heard nuts before because if a kid has a really severe allergy, sometimes that can be the case.
Is there a severe allergy to fectin?
I don't know.
Artificial flavor.
My niece was allergic to fruit snacks because there's a lot of pineapple juice in them.
I don't know.
Because they use a lot of real fruit juices.
Again, the segment isn't about you and your niece, Brooke.
It's about Abigail and her son.
Okay, so what I should do instead of doing all of that talking is just say, why?
There you go.
We're learning.
Do you know why the teacher said that?
Yeah, apparently a mom complained that her kid didn't have that in his lunch,
so he was upset that it wasn't fair.
What?
Apparently the mom was like, you can't give one to the whole class here.
Right.
Well, I hate to side with the other kid on this, but when I would go to school and all the other kids had dunkeroo's and I didn't, I felt like rage.
Yeah, I agree.
But that's part of life.
You just have to deal with you don't get the same things as everybody else always.
We got them all expelled.
Oh.
So that worked.
Remember when you have money, the world works differently.
Yeah.
So when you read that, though, how did you feel?
I mean, I thought it was stupid.
Like, you're not supposed to eat the same thing.
They can all have whatever they bring.
Right, right, right.
Was your kid, like, being rude about it, like rubbing it in or something?
Like, ha, ha, I got fruit snacks.
I could see that.
That's a good question, Jose.
Maybe eating one in his face.
Yeah.
Look at this.
They didn't mention that.
I don't know of any mocking, but the kid apparently doesn't really have a fun lunch, apparently.
So nobody else can have one either.
A fun lunch.
You don't sound very sympathetic to this poor child.
Who is?
I'm sorry.
I don't think the kid probably cares that much either.
Well, enough to complain to the mom.
We just want fruit snacks, that's all.
Yeah, well, did you ever reach out to the teacher and talk to her about it?
I did, and I found out a few things.
Oh, okay.
Now, that is the tone of voice that we wanted to hear.
What did you find out?
I'm not the only mom that got an email about things that they can't have in the lunch.
Really?
One mom was told no Oreos.
What?
I'm sorry. I thought that this was just a blanket statement to the whole class.
This is like individually.
Like you're doing this.
And it's upsetting this child.
Yes.
Each one of us got a separate email about this individually.
Oh, wow.
This kid is all from the same parent.
Okay, wait.
That's why you feel like it's not the kid. It's the mom.
Who else got told what?
Another kid can't have chips of hoy cookies.
What's the only thing allowed?
Fig Newton's?
Yeah.
Snackwells.
They don't have snack wells anymore.
That was what I got in my lunch.
I was a sad shot.
Okay.
So what happened next?
I called the teacher and she was really sorry.
She said it was silly and she's just trying to make sure that it's fair in her classroom.
She's big on fairness.
And she told me I could call the mom that is upset about this and try to hash it out of my own.
Yeah, let's go.
That's who we're calling, right?
Or are we calling the kid?
I don't know.
We're not calling the kid.
Kids, stop snooping on everyone's luncheon.
Hey, how much you just grow up?
You eat your carrot sticks and like it.
No, okay.
You want to call the mom that was complaining?
Yeah, I just don't really know how to make this ridiculous thing go well.
Like, I think it's absurd.
And I just don't really know why we have to get the teacher involved.
No Oreos and no shirt snacks.
So that's also true.
You're kind of representing the whole class.
room. Like, if you can get her to back down,
I think everybody can bring snacks again, right?
Right. But obviously it's going to be hard because
this mom is the type of person
that would go to the teacher and complain
about what other kids are getting in their lunches.
So she's not going to be a walk in the park.
And you sound so sweet.
Thank you. I am sweet, Brooke.
No, no.
Oh, yeah. Abigail, you do sound sweet.
Which means her kids probably sweet. I just
don't know how to make this call. I need your
advice. Okay. Okay.
I mean, having kids and being a parent
is a lot of talk about what other households do that you don't do
and making sure that they know just because something's allowed in one place
doesn't mean it's allowed in another place.
Yeah, like some kids can watch some TV shows
that your parents don't let you watch.
And Brooke loves a good parent confrontation.
Oh, I can't wait for Brooke.
Let me roll up my sleeve.
She is ready to go.
So we're going to take a quick break, come back,
and give you our advice before you call the other mom in your son's class
and tell her, why are you banning Oreos from my kids' lunch?
Or fruit snacks?
I think we'll do it a little differently than that, Jeff.
Less finger pointing.
Yeah, okay.
We'll want fun lunch.
Leave the advice to Brooke and do it with your awkward Tuesday phone call right after this.
It's awkward.
It's Tuesday.
It's awkward Tuesday phone call.
No fruit snacks, no Oreos, no tasty foods allowed in your children's school lunchboxes anymore.
Oh, dang.
Those are messages that an entire classroom of mothers has been receiving lately.
All because one mom talked to her kid and found out he wanted some of those items in his lunchbox, too.
And instead of just giving it to him, the mom went and got all those snacks banned from class out of, quote, fairness.
Oh, what a hater.
And that's what brings our listener Abigail to us today because she is one of those moms that received a message and she wants to call this other mom.
who's creating all the drama, basically talk to her,
and hopefully reach an amicable agreement on how to pack their kids' lunches responsibly.
This is the high drama we needed in our life.
I agree.
And I like it.
Love getting involved in school mama drama,
but she does need our advice first.
So Brooke, what do you have for Abigail?
Well, I actually think being a mom is really hard for everybody.
And instead of asking her why or being accusatory,
because it could be something sensitive.
It could be like a financial reason why the kid isn't getting snacks.
It could be like a sensory issue that's going on.
You just say, hey, listen, got your email.
Think I figured out a solution.
I'm just going to ship my kid with two packs of snacks every day.
One for him.
One for your kid.
That's really generous, though.
The issue just resolves itself.
There you go.
It just implies that she's poor.
It doesn't say that she is.
I like that.
I didn't think of that, Jeff.
That was smart, Brooke.
What do you think, Abigail?
Yeah, I don't know.
I think she's a control freak, but...
I'm not sure what would give you that impression.
There goes the other thing.
Jose, what's your advice for her?
Well, you have to tell her that you got the email, but here's the problem.
My child's doctor has him on a diet of fruit snacks.
No, no child's doctor was...
Unfortunately, we are going to go with a fruit snack diet because it's doctor's orders
for medical reasons.
Fruit snacks are essentially just gummy bears.
We all realize, right?
You need to have her back with us.
Yeah.
It's probably a vitamin in there somewhere.
Yeah, there is.
There's a back.
Abigail, thoughts?
That's really interesting.
I don't know about that one.
Yeah, prescribed fruit snacks is going to be a little hard.
It's a comparison of diabetes.
It needs more sugar.
My kids, Dennis, is like, you don't have enough cavities because I need to pay these bills, all right?
Eat those snacks.
I like it.
You don't have to use any of that.
Abigail, it's up to you.
But you can.
Great advice.
Feel free to use it as liberally as you want to, but I'm going to dial this other mom.
You gave me her phone number, and I will let you talk to her.
You feel ready?
Ready as I'll ever be.
All right.
So I'm going to dial it right now.
Good luck.
We'll be here on your side and jump in when you need it.
Here you go.
Hey, Jocelyn.
Yes, this is she who's calling?
Hi, this is Abigail.
Both of our kids are in the same second grade class.
Oh, okay.
Nice to meet you.
Hi.
Yeah.
So I just wanted to reach out.
I got your number from the teacher.
And I didn't know they were allowed to do that.
Yeah.
You had reached out to the teacher because I guess there was a situation with lunches and fairness.
And, you know, we're not allowed to put fruit snacks in the lunch anymore.
And what exactly isn't fair about that?
Well, if everybody's not allowed to do it, then isn't that the definition of fair?
Why would they not be allowed to do that?
I was thinking maybe I could pack another thing of fruits.
I wouldn't mind sharing with your kid if that's the thing.
But also, like, why can't you put that in your kids lunch if they're asking for it?
Well, because I don't want to give my child something that's going to be harmful to their body.
Oh, God.
I mean, I don't understand why it's an issue or any of your business.
Okay.
It seems like, you know, you reached out to the teacher and made a big stink about this.
And it's not fair that our kids can't have that in their lunch.
Well, she agreed with me.
So maybe she made it sound, maybe she's trying to play both sides here.
But the email that she sent out said that the new policy was going to be that people can't put these.
harmful, quote, treats in their child's lunches.
She didn't mention any of that.
She actually apologized for having to say anything and thought it was silly.
Well, I'm glad you got your apology.
I'm sure that felt great.
But the email that we got with a new policy, this is the policy.
And so I'm not really sure what you're expecting from me.
Have you ever had a fun lunch in your life?
What is wrong with you?
Who's your child?
I'm just curious.
You're asking me the name of my child?
What does that matter?
I just want to get some context.
Like, I work in the classroom sometimes, and maybe you haven't yet.
Because it sounds like you don't have the same, like, awareness.
Like, you don't quite know what you're talking about with this.
Well, I don't appreciate that.
That's very disrespectful.
And you probably have ran across him.
His name is Joe.
He's very smart.
He probably.
stood out, you know, he has friends.
Okay.
This is all making more sense.
Okay.
I understand now.
What is that supposed to mean?
Yeah.
I'm just not surprised there's cookies in your house.
She just call him chubby backhandedly?
He's in second grade.
What?
And he should have a little extra.
I was thinking more like hyper sugar active,
the more than.
Oh, I can think of both ways.
Maybe.
It doesn't matter.
Whatever it was.
was. It was rude.
It was.
We're not even the cookie household.
I don't think that matters, Abigail.
That's not the point here.
What's going on?
Who are these people?
Oh, yeah.
We're definitely a show you won't let your kid listen to.
That's for sure.
We're all hopped up on fruit snacks.
We're a radio show, Jocelyn.
We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
And Abigail has asked for our help.
This was a prank.
No.
Oh, no.
This is real.
This is a segment called an awkward Tuesday phone call where the goal is to try to take an awkward situation and help resolve it.
Yeah.
There wasn't very much funny in what you said, Jocelyn.
Yeah.
Well, I didn't know I was on the radio and required to be funny.
I thought I was just talking to some Karen.
Oh.
I would have been more entertaining, I guess.
Wait, you're calling Abigail the Karen.
No, I think she's calling you the Karen.
Whatever.
More than anything, you don't have a mirror is the problem.
Wow.
Okay.
Listen, our goal for this entire thing is to try and get you two talking to each other
and hopefully come to some sort of understanding and agreement.
So Abigail, talk to Jocelyn.
You want me to talk to the woman who thinks that my son is cookie-friendly?
Yeah.
I don't think that's on Abigail anymore.
Jocelyn, what are you doing, man?
Why are you making enemies everywhere?
If you want your kid to eat healthy and you don't think fruit snacks are part of that,
then fine, don't let him eat them.
Who the fuck are you?
You're not part of our school.
You're not part of our community.
The rules are the fucking rules.
Oh, okay.
I've been saying that for so long.
Oh, my God.
I don't make the rules.
I simply talk to the teacher like every other parent has the right to do,
and then the teacher makes the rules.
It sounds like you just boss the teacher around and scare her to a point where she has to instill incredibly stupid policy.
Well, you have the right to do the same thing, honey, if that's what you want to do.
Okay.
Don't you think it'd be a great lesson for your kid on?
how like, I don't know, not everybody gets the same thing for lunch, and this is what our house eats.
People on different diets.
For your information, you're not packing fruit snacks and cookies and all this other crap into your kid's lunches.
You're welcome.
I'm probably saving your child's life.
Oh, my God.
Oh, wow.
That's extreme.
No, what's going to happen is the kid is going to end up hoarding all this stuff and then eating it in secret when they can.
Okay.
Well, hold on, Abigail.
First, do you want to thank her for saving your child's life?
Yes, thank you for being
Such a murder for my child
You're welcome
May I go now
Okay
Abigail, wait
I think the solution here is Abigail
Just keep sending the fruit snacks
There's no like repercussions
What are they going to do?
I guess we'll find out
I guess we'll find out what they're going to do
You're not that scary, Jocelyn
I know you want to be
I'm not trying to be scary
I'm just saying if you break the rules
There are usually consequences
Oh she's right
You're not in charge
Abigail, I'm sorry, Abigail, for Brooke, possibly getting your child suspended for breaking the rules now.
And if you think about it, trying to kill her kids.
I know.
Brooke was like pro.
Very irresponsible.
Jocelyn, real quick, before you let you go, what's your thought on snack wells?
Are those are kidding?
Because.
Watch it be the one thing they're allowed?
If those are cool, we may have an avenue.
I don't even know what that is.
Yeah, okay.
Thank you.
Nobody does.
No.
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I think Brooks said it best.
Being a mom is hard.
It is hard.
Especially when you have to be a mom to everybody else's kids because their parents are so reckless.
That poor woman.
Oh, yeah.
Got to save the whole class.
She has it so hard.
I was thinking of her all wrong, Jeff.
You're right.
Yeah.
I mean, I just don't like it when everybody's pointing fingers and blaming each other when the real enemy is high fructose corn syrup.
Okay, that's not it, Jeff.
That's not the lesson here.
Oh, what's the lesson is mind your own business, okay?
Do what you need to do in your family.
And what everybody else does in their family is none of your business.
Yeah, and our family needs fruit snacks.
Yeah.
Eat them quick before the teacher conferences.
Dude.
And, and everything.
is fine if you don't eat a ton of it, right?
That's true.
That's why that kid should give him one fruit snack to the other kid.
The one that's not allowed sugar.
Then he gets a taste for it.
Next thing you know, he goes back to his mom.
I'm just saying, fruit snack, mom, her kids are going to be all right.
Yeah.
I do feel pretty bad for the teacher, though, who's probably going to need to hold an all-class
meeting.
After all the moms take Brooke's advice and just ignore the rules.
Oh, no.
Good job, Brooke.
You made that teacher's life miserable.
Oh, come on.
Here we go.
I'll follow you when it makes sense.
Okay.
But, you know, we don't necessarily follow the rules when we do this segment.
And that could be a good thing for you.
Email us if you ever need our advice.
And we'll help you make your awkward call on the air.
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