Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Closure Call: Case of the Missing Roommate

Episode Date: March 30, 2025

We've got a special new episode you this weekend! The guy on the phone today had a really close relationship with his roommate, but one fateful day four years ago changed everything. Today he’s on our show trying to figure out what went wrong in a Closure Call!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yes, totally. You know, and Sunday, we've really been using to introduce you to all sorts of new relationship drama segments that we do on the show. And today, I think it's the first one we've done on the Second Date Update podcast. Yeah, it is. We we're gonna do a closure call I mean sometimes yeah I really are you know it's probably the most serious

thing that we do on the show yeah it is good serious yeah good serious and just emotional maybe is a better word than serious intense yeah I don't laugh at all. I cry through the whole thing Grab your tissues get ready A closure call is where we have our producer work with one of our listeners to get in touch with somebody from their past It could be like a family member a lot of exes We had a bully one time An old roommate that just disappeared once. Yeah, which is a hint for what today's is, by the way. Anyway, they come up with questions to ask this person that has broken off contact with them.

For sometimes years and years and years. Yeah, yeah. And then we read the responses live on air. And hopefully at the end, give them a chance to move forward. Or crush them, because they don't know they're going to hear this. Well, that's not the goal. that's not the goal, right? That's not the goal, but sometimes it does happen.

All right. So now you understand what it is. Hopefully you enjoy it. Definitely let us know in the comments. We love reading your comments. We got some today. Yes, I saw one from so original. Yes, that many O's, okay?

Yes. Who said, my favorite moments are when Jeffrey's genuine laugh sneaks out. It's hilariously adorable Yeah, he tries to suppress it. I swear he has to he works with us He's off-air Jeff laughs so much and I was like, yeah He's those people that makes me feel really good about myself cuz he laughs at everything you say No, sometimes when we'll go out to drinks will be like on the first drink and like are you are you drunk? Yeah

No, I don't think he's an alcoholic. No, he's got one beer in front of him and some good food. He's a happy guy Closure call thanks for being here. We got a brand new show tomorrow of course too, so come back, but hey hope you enjoy Who knows you better than anyone else you may think your mom Sibling or your spouse but now the truth is nobody sees you like a roommate sees you Yeah, they know all your annoying little habits your lazy tendencies and what your soapy silhouette looks like through that shower curtain and what your soapy silhouette looks like through that shower curtain. Wait, what? Why are you there?

They've seen. That's why one of our listeners is so distraught because he and his roommate became real close friends till everything suddenly changed on a random day four years ago. Oh. And he has never got the answers for what really happened on that day.

That's why he's enlisted our help for a brand new closure call. We're gonna get some answers coming up right after this. Who knows you better than anyone else? You may think your mom or your sibling or your spouse, but no, the truth is nobody sees you like a roommate sees you. Oh boy, you're right.

Even my old roommate probably knows more about me than my family. Yeah, they know all your annoying little habits, your lazy tendencies, and what your soapy silhouette looks like through that shower curtain. Wait, what? They've seen.

That's why one of our listeners is so distraught, because he and his roommate became real close friends till everything suddenly changed on a random day four years ago and he has never got the answers for what really happened on that day. That's why he's enlisted our help for a brand new closure call. We're going to get some answers coming up right after this. We've been doing closure calls for a while now, and most of the time when people need closure,

it's from an ex-boyfriend or a family member. Yeah, for sure. Which I know in Brooke's case is sometimes the same thing. Shut up, Jeff. So a little confusing, but today's interesting, because I'd say not a lot of people feel like they need closure from a past roommate. Oh, I could see that.

I could totally see that. Really? Yes. I mean, I try to avoid most of mine, but apparently that's what our listener Adam is looking for today, closure with one of his past roommates. So Adam, welcome to the show.

Hey, y'all, thank you. Is this person just a roommate? Because usually roommates are also your best friends and people that you love, you knowall, thank you. Is this person just a roommate? Because usually roommates are also your best friends and people that you love and care about. You know, he was just a roommate and then we became really close buddies. Yeah. God. You know, I moved into a house

where I literally found it on Craigslist, didn't know anyone, and then we became best friends. Well, I mean, that's the easiest way to be friends with somebody and you know everything about them immediately. Yeah, if you live with somebody, oh yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's the easiest way to be friends with somebody and you know everything about them immediately. Yeah, if you live with somebody, oh yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's how it was with him. We became great friends really quickly.

Oh, man. That's great. It's always nice to make a new friend. But some friends you can't live with. There's a difference. Yeah, that's also true. And because this is a closure call, how long has it been since you were roommates with this guy?

Like, he's not in the next room right now. He's like, I'm not gonna leave you. No, I wish. He's not here the next room right now. He's not. No, I wish he's not here. He has been gone for four years now. Oh, wow. Years. Yeah. Did he move out of your guys' place?

Yeah, so the way it all went down was things were cool and all of a sudden he just wasn't there. What do you mean? Whoa. Like in the middle of the night, he moved his stuff out or what? I would get home from work. I worked really early shifts

and I would get home around two, 3 p.m. and he was there, always there every single day. Showed up at home, the door's wide open. What? There's no note or anything. You know, kind of freaked me out. The cat was still there. Wait, his cat, your cat, who's cat? It was his cat. I mean, I love the cat. I, you know, I was a cool roommate. I fed the cat, played with the cat. Was your

roommate kidnapped and you'd ever filed a report? Yeah. Because. He's like, I just heard help, help, help from down the street. Yeah. And that was it. That's what I thought. I was freaking out. And I didn't call authorities or anything. And I waited a day or two. So I started asking around to different friends and families. Yeah.

And they were told from him that he just didn't want to be my roommate anymore. What? I thought you said that you guys were like good buddies. We were great buddies. We had movie night. Oh man. I can't. Now you don't have movie night anymore.

This is a tragedy. I can't get over him leaving the cat. Yeah, that's weird. Did he take his stuff when he left? He took some stuff. He took like some of his clothes, but he left PlayStation. He left like essentials

I feel like it sounds like he left for a weekend trip and was like actually this is nicer. I'm the same I mean, I know that I wasn't perfect. There were things that kicked them off. I would eat his food Sometimes you were that guy. Well, did he label it? There was no label well there you go you got there's only two of you living there You don't to label it. It's not yours. If you didn't want want me to eat it don't put it in our fridge it's a shared space what you're gonna label each side of the couch now remind me never to be a roommate with Jeffrey do you think he was mad at you because that's what you're kind of implying I mean me eating some of his food every now and then or the

other big one was that I hardly ever did dishes. You didn't do your own dishes and you ate his food? Yeah. You still wouldn't leave your cat and move. Yeah, it's not that dramatic. You know, I cleaned the cat's litter and I held up my end of some of the bargain. Some of the bargain.

I could do more dishes if that was the issue, but he never talked to you about it Yeah I couldn't have just been about silly little things like that and I know it's kind of weird because he was just my roommate And I know it was four years ago But still it is haunting me that this person would just up and go and I really would Love some closure. I would love to know what I did. Okay.

This is, I mean, I wanna know too. Yeah, so if our audience doesn't know or remember how this segment works, Adam does, obviously. Our producers have been working with him to track down his roommate, Roy, and we went to Roy's Instagram actually. Our producer's been sending him a lot of messages

and Roy finally responded. We asked him if we could send him four questions from Adam. Okay and these are questions that Adam came up with with our producer. Yes, with help. When you ask him that, do you say this doesn't count as one of the questions? Because I was back with like, is it three or four then? He did agree to answer four brand new questions. Okay, thank you. Do you say this doesn't count as one of the questions?

He did agree to answer four brand new questions And we got his responses ready right now this This could get a little bit intense for you Adam. Are you ready for it? Did you already read him? Do you already know what he said? I haven't read them. No, then how do you know they're intense? Well, I'm just guessing read them know then how do you know they're intense yeah well I'm just guessing we're all gonna read them together and find out what happened to your old roommate Roy hopefully give you a little bit of finality on it when we do what Brooke can I just ask where's the cat down I was wondering that too if that's not in the questions that was asked, then we don't have an answer. Well no, he has it. He has the cat. The cat is sitting by my feet right now.

Oh, okay. Ew. Okay, we're all gonna get the cat's closure. We needed to get animal welfare right away before we move on to the relationship. We're on speakerphone, so if it's anything that would really hurt the cat's feelings. Oh, okay.

Oh. Well maybe earmuff that cat when we come back and do the rest of your closure call right after this. Thank you If you're just joining us We're in the middle of a closure call with Adam who just to recap had a roommate named Roy and four years ago Adam came home to find Roy was gone Yes, along with most of his belongings left behind his cat and a video game system. They were friends.

Like it's so crazy. I am so invested in this. He also left behind a bro? Yeah, that's right, Jose. No, no, or indication as to where Roy went. So Adam's been wondering for years, where did my buddy go and who's gonna do my dishes now? Yeah. Because Adam, you admitted there were certain things

you did as a roommate that were not so good. Certain things were really good. But what was the overall dynamic between you and Roy? If I were to paint a picture, we were jokesters. Jokesters. There was a lot of laughter going on. That's a good sign well It's so weird because the friends in the family all said that he left because he didn't want to be roommates

Yeah, so it was obviously planned a little bit exactly and before we get to these questions That's the reason that Adam reached out to us in the first place because hearing stuff like that must hurt Yeah, I don't I don't even want to accept that that is what he said All right, well let's get right to it because we have the four questions that you sent to Roy He has answered all four of them Number one you said hey, man. It's been almost four years I still don't know why you moved out without telling me or leaving a note I felt like we were great friends, and I'd like some closure

Not much of a question that's more of a statement there, but you know I'm not gonna critique you Yeah, there was no question. It's like can you explain yeah? Yeah, so was no question. It's like, can you explain? Yeah, it's more of like, yeah. So Roy responded. He wrote, really? You have no idea, Adam? Okay, for starters, you stole my cat. What? I stole it. What are you talking about? Yeah, you said that Roy left the cat. Is that not true? Yeah, he left the cat here. What? That's it. He says I was the one who brought the cat into the house and called him Paul

You changed his name to fluffy bottoms and even got his tag changed to reflect that First of all much better name Is a great name and the cat liked it no I think Paul's actually pretty funny. I mean, if we're gonna, I just can't believe you changed your- I'm starting to switch to Team Roy right now. Yes!

I can't believe that he would be holding a grudge for four years over the cat having an extra little pizzazz. Well, there's- Pretty big- There's more to his first answer. He also said you would keep him in your room at night, then lock your door and pretend to be asleep when I wanted to see Paul So that's one example of your incredibly toxic behavior right there

Toxic he dropped the word on you the cat wanted to sleep with me And everyone locks their door when they go to bed at night listen Everyone locks their door when they go to bed at night. Listen, listen. Now when you pet you leave it cracked actually. Yeah. We're not trying to attack you, but it sounds like you need to take a moment to take a deep breath and accept some.

Okay. Self-reflective. The only person who could honestly answer that is his cat. And so we don't have time to do a whole like questionnaire for the cats. We have to stick with the questions to Roy here. Let's go to number two. Oh man. It says, I know I wasn't the perfect roommate.

Okay, that's good. That's admitting some guilt there. Taking responsibility. If it was something I did when I lived with you, could you please give me a specific example that I could grow from? He already did. There's gonna be more?

Sure, but remember, when we write these, we don't have the answers back one at a time. We send them all in one mass email. Adam, are you ready to hear this? Because it didn't feel like you were ready to hear the cat nap situation. I will accept it. The cat threw me off.

That threw me off. I feel optimistic about where this is going. So his response was, okay, you want more? What about Netflix Sundays? When we would plan on watching a movie together every Sunday. And then once we were a half hour in You'd pause the film and tell me the ending what you thought it was hilarious And did that ten times until I stopped watching movies with you

Sometimes it's better to spoil the ending so you don't suffer through a bad movie. It's not even like he did it before the movie started. You let the man get a half an hour into a film and then ruined it? Okay, all right. I will say, and I'll say calmly, that it's fair. It's not worth losing a friendship over, okay?

I may have told him the ending of Breaking Bad But it was very funny How many seasons into Breaking Bad were you before you ruin the end Wow I mean Brooke is really offended over the spoiling of movies I'll tell you there was one time when my husband ripped out the last two pages of a book. I was There was one time when my husband ripped out the last two pages of a book I was Maybe if you need a new roommate Brooks husband could be it Did Roy ever tell you that he didn't like that? No, he did Brooke This is not a closure call for you in your're watching a movie, watching a book reading.

This is for Adam with his old roommate Roy. Remember. It's not going well. What's the next question? Jeff, get to question three. Question number three that we sent to Roy. I don't even know if I need to hear anymore. Well, Brooke needs to hear it.

She's invested. I am upset. We sent, I know it's been a long time, but it would really mean a lot to me if you came to my birthday party next month. What? I would love to see you. That's really sweet, Adda. The cat misses you. I'd like him there, it's my birthday.

It's a big day. This is before we knew. So Roy responded back saying, are you trolling me with this? Don't you remember the great birthday disaster? What? Oh no, there's a birthday disaster. Oh no.

Are you ever not joking? You threw me that surprise birthday party but forgot to invite me. Or did you do it on purpose? What? What? I came home and the party was done, all my friends had left, then you showed me the pics on Instagram. Oh, that's messed up. What happened there, Adam?

That's just me. Okay. I did a lot of work for it and I went and I got the cake and I did all the secret invites, set up the whole party and it was an honest mistake. I just forgot the one thing. Oh, wait. I forgot.

Why wouldn't you text him in the middle of the party and tell him to get over to the house? We were having fun. Oh. I'm sure you left him a slice of cake for when he got home, right? You know who'd like this? Roy. He would love this.

Oh, yeah. What were we talking about? Oh, yeah. Roy's birthday. Yeah. Oh, Adam. I totally did not do it on purpose. I know that it sounds like I did. Okay. And how messed up that all of his friends didn't stay and just went over him and went home? Totally did not do it on purpose. I know that it sounds like I did okay

All of his friends didn't stay It was a really good party that We have time for one more question here this could salvage the entire friendship and maybe even have him moving back in with you because I hope you're learning something from this Adam wrote no matter what I did. Do you think you could ever forgive me? Well, the subtext is There's a question there of do you forgive me me will you come back to me in the cat? The cat you kind of stole and renamed and locked in your bedroom. Yeah, so He responded

No Dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot and I know all this would happen again if we hung out you're way too Immature and life's a big joke to you would happen again if we hung out you're way too immature and life's a big joke to you like every time you'd ask me to stop at the Drive-thru on the way home and pick up food then you'd call ahead and tell the workers. I was a missing person Even Brooks laughing at that one. See, you're like that one in every 20 is gonna be actually good. Good?

Yes, that one hits. Here's the thing, Adam, you've gotta balance all this stuff with also some meaningful relationship things. I think it was balanced though. I don't think it was. I feel like Roy was with no peace. Yeah.

Oh my gosh. You just made was with no peace. Yeah. Oh my gosh. You just made his life living hell. Yeah. I'm willing to accept that he doesn't wanna come back. I'll have to break it to the cat and I don't know how the cat's gonna take this. You know, at the end of the day, the goal was to get some closure for you, Adam,

about what happened to your roommate. Do you feel like you got it? You know what? I did get closure. Life is a giant joke. And I thought Roy was the jokester with me, but apparently he's taking it all serious. Oh, wow.

Yeah, I'm sorry. You need to find the middle ground there, Adam. Anyway, go ahead, Adam. Feel free to hop on Craigslist and get yourself a new roommate. They have no idea what they're doing. Hopefully none of them listen to this. Happy belated birthday to Roy by the way.

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