Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update: 300 is the Magic Number

Episode Date: May 10, 2022

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Hi, I'm Ed Zitron, host of the Better Offline podcast. And this January, we're going to go on the road to beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada, to cover the Consumer Electronics Show, tech's biggest conference. Better Offline CES coverage won't be the usual rundown of the hottest gadgets or biggest trends, but an unvarnished look at what the tech industry plans to sell or do to you in 2025.

I'll be joined by David Roth of Defector and the writer Edward Ongueso Jr. With guest appearances from Behind the Bastards Robert Evans, It Could Happen Here's Gare Davis, and a few surprise guests throughout the show. Listen to Better Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever else you get your podcasts from. If a date doesn't go quite according to plan, it could be a bad thing, but it could be a good thing, too. Like, one time, my plan going into the night was to pay the entire dinner bill, but forgot my wallet. So instead, had to pivot, dined and dashed. Ended up getting the whole meal for free. So that turned out to be a good thing.

And you found out your date was a really good runner. Exactly. You know, athletic, athletic. So sometimes change of plans turns out to be good. And that was the case for one of our listeners, Megan, whose night got derailed in a good way. And now she's needing our help. What's up, Megan? How you doing? Hey, doing all right, I guess.

We like people who can turn, you know, lemons into lemonade, despite Jeffrey's whole situation. But yeah. As long as you mix some vodka into the lemonade, then Brooke's on board. And don't pay for the lemonade. Right? Yeah. So tell us about the guy that you want us to call. What's his name?

His name is Curtis. Okay. Okay. And where'd you meet him? We always needed to know. Well, we met online. Honestly, that's the first date that I've had since I broke up with my longtime relationship about a little over a month ago.

Oh. Okay. This is your rebound. You're getting back out there. Only a month, too? Did Curtis know that? Yeah. I was straight up with him about this is my first first date since I've been out there

and it's been a long time. And so what we did is we made a plan. Okay. Okay. So he was okay with that. He was like, let's plan everything out so you're not super nervous. That's a good idea. What was the plan?

The plan was just to kind of go and see but he turned out to be a really really great guy oh good so what'd you guys do we decided we're gonna go to the bar gonna have a couple drinks gonna go to a movie and just kind of hang out so wait you went to a theater it wasn't like a netflix and chill situation well no because after we had the drinks at the bar we just were like you know what we just want to continue talking and you can't do that at a movie theater so we just stayed there okay so cancel the plan to go to the theater just stay and get more drunk at the bar i like that always a good idea that's a good plan b it's a better date to be honest yeah yeah i mean it must have been going pretty well.

Oh, it was going great. I mean, we got kind of tipsy, and I came back from the restroom, and I told him, Curtis, you've got to see this picture that they've got in the restroom. Oh, you're pulling them into the ladies' room. Uh-oh. Dang. So he was like, what?

And I was like, come on, I will watch to make sure no one comes in, but you've got to see this thing. It's hilarious. You know that he thinks something else is going to happen in the bathroom with you two, right? Maybe he's just like a restroom art connoisseur. That's just his big passion. So he said, okay, like really reluctantly. So he was right. It was a trap.

I pulled him into the handic handicap stall and i started to make out with him oh my god you are delighted with yourself look at you rebound that's fine it's good for you it looks like you're having fun i mean was he into that oh yeah i mean it only lasted a couple minutes because he was like look we, we're in the ladies' room. Let's get out of here. Oh, I was going to say a couple minutes. That's my record. So I think we had a good time. How did the day end? I mean, you're making out.

You go back to your table, and then what? Well, you know, we weren't at a table. We were at the bar. Oh, okay. And, I mean, the bartender was really nice, and I guess I might have been a little flirty with him. With the bartender, too? You were like, hey, bartender, there's a picture in the bathroom that you have to see.

I mean, I wasn't that flirty. Oh, okay, good. What type of flirty then? I mean, just chit-chatty and smiling and, you know, talking. That's how you talk to bartenders is flirty. I flirty, right? Okay. But you felt like there was something more there.

I mean, honestly, it could just be that Curtis is like, okay, she's just coming back into her own after being out of a relationship. You know, good for her. But I just am not, I'm looking for something more serious. I mean, did he ever talk to you about that? You know, we never really got into that. We were just kind of like, hey, this is going to be a casual fun vibe. And we never really talked about anything serious. Okay. That casual fun is always good yeah i mean no matter who you're

with i mean maybe you gave off that vibe where that's all you were looking for that night was just like a casual fun night and didn't want to see him again yeah and that's kind of how i went into the night but you know after talking with him and after the little makeout session. He's a good kisser. He is. Really. That's cute. You're cute. That always ranks him in.

So he hasn't texted or called or anything? Have you reached out to him? No. I mean, I've reached out to him several times, but he hasn't texted back or anything. And I just don't know if I move too fast. I don't think so. Maybe it was the flirting with the bartender. I don't know.

Yeah. I mean, it could be that. It could be something else. It could be that Curtis was with the bartender that night, too. In the bathroom. You moved in on his man. Oh. I really don't think so.

Well. You never know. He tells the bartender, he's like, look, she's a liar. There's no art in there at all. Yeah. All right, don't date her. Let's not close the door to any possibilities. We're going to play a song.

We'll come back. We'll call Curtis, and we'll find out why he's not calling you anymore when we do your second date update. All right? Okay. All right, hold on. Second date update. It's another classic modern dating tale of girl meets boy. Girl lies to boy about a picture in the woman's bathroom.

Girl makes out with boy in the handicapped stall. Suddenly girl not getting a call back from boy. We've seen it a million times. Come on, is this Romeo and Juliet? Seriously. Is this the same? Now it's the million and one time because it's happened to one of our listeners, Megan, after she went out with a guy named Curtis, and now he's ghosting.

Have you ever thought that maybe he's a rule follower and it was morally corrupt for him to use the handicap stall? Oh, wow. That's a good point, Brooke. You know, that bother you, Brooke? I mean, if you're going to pick a stall, go for a smaller one. Let's just stand on the toilet of the regular stall for more money. Just in case someone needs it. There was just a line of four people in wheelch the toilet of the regular stall for more. Just in case.

There was just a line of four people in wheelchairs outside of the stall waiting to get in. That would be my luck, though, Jeffrey. Of course. Is that what happened, Megan? No, not at all. But I don't know if that was his issue. It might have been. Okay.

I'd actually be happy if that was it. If he was that good of a guy, let him go. I mean, here's the thing, Megan. If this doesn't work out, you are fresh out of a big relationship. We will find you somebody else on the text board or something, you know. And you got a bathroom trick that works. Yeah. Or you could just fall back into that old relationship again.

Oh, God, Jeffrey. Going back to your exes is always good. It's just a backup plan. That is a cycle. I just want to see if, you know, it's maybe something stupid I did or what. I really want to try and make this work. He's pretty great. Okay. Well, let's find out.

We're going to dial his number right now. Try and get your second date update. You ready? Ready. Okay, here we go. Hello? Hey, I'm looking for Curtis. This is Curtis.

Hey, Curtis. How you doing, man? My name's Jeff from the radio show Broken Jeffrey in the Morning. No way. Oh, my gosh. You listen. Look at, see? Jeffrey, somebody recognized you.

You listen to the show? No, but I know somebody who does. Okay. That's kind of close. That's also Jeff. That's cool. That is cool. Thank them.

Well, we're doing a segment on our show called The Second Date Update. Yeah, I figured that too. Oh. Oh. Are you sure you don't listen then? Yeah, I figured that too. Oh. Oh. Are you sure you don't listen then? How did you figure that? Megan messaged me that this was going to be happening, so. Oh.

Wait, you're not supposed to tell the other person? She warned you that we were going to call? I don't know if she knew for sure that I saw her message, but yeah, she said this is something that she might try to do to contact me. Are you saying like she messaged you like five minutes ago right before we called? Or this was days ago that she warned you this might happen? It's more like when isn't she messaging me? Oh.

Uh-oh. Wait a minute. She didn't say that. She said she had texted you a couple times and hadn't heard back after your guys' date at the bar. No. No. No. Just like a couple hundred times? How many texts are we talking?

I'm going to say around 300. Wow. That's it? Okay. I was worried for a second. 300. It's only three digits, man. What is there to say?

300 times. How have you not blocked her? I mean, honestly. Well is there to say? 300 times. How have you not blocked her? I mean, honestly. Well, there's really no point. As you can see, like, she's going to try to contact me by any means. Oh, no, we're helping. All right. Well, before we talk about why this is happening, let's just refocus on the date for a second.

Because, Curtis, we spoke with Megan, and from her perspective, she said it went really well. She seemed so normal. Yeah, no, that part of it is pretty true. Actually, it did go pretty well. So when you ended the date, right, she said you guys took two Ubers home. Did you have plans to call her and go out again? Yeah, no. At that point, yeah, I had a lot of fun. I would have loved to go out again for sure. What happened? Yeah. Why did she send you so many texts? I don't know. So what happened is I went home, I took a shower, came out of the shower, and there

was about four texts from her. And then so I responded, yeah, you had a great night. Thanks. And so I went to bed. When you're just done with the date, sometimes it is like, hey, had a lot of fun. Sorry if I'm talking too much. Just want you to know I'm thinking about you. There's four texts right there. Yeah, that's's not horrible did you not respond to those initial four texts

no he said he did oh you did yeah i did i said yeah i had a lot of fun and yeah hopefully we can do it again okay and then perfect and then you woke up the next morning you went to bed you woke up the next morning then what then there was about another 20 text messages. No. Uh-oh. Morning, sleepyhead. Saying what? Just saying what a good time she had and then, sorry for messaging you so late. I hope you can get this. Oh.

Things like that. It sounds like she doesn't know how to put the phone down. Yeah. It sounds like she really likes you, though. Does it? Or is she just an obsessive person? That means she really likes someone, though. Does it? Or is she just an obsessive person? That means she really likes someone. This is a healthy sign.

Yeah, so when I quit responding, it kind of made the snowball effect. The 20 messages became 60 messages, which became 200 messages. It just got real crazy real quick. Oh, my gosh. Because you weren't replying, so she probably got stressed. And you just never told her anything after that? You just let it snowball and continue to this point? I couldn't keep up with one to pick which one to respond to, so no.

So she's like talking to herself at this point. You have such a good attitude about this right now. I would be freaked out. I'm so glad we're not doing textual healing right now. Oh my God. We'd be in trouble. That's where we help people via text message, Curtis, if you don't listen. It'd be a three-day segment.

Yeah. Wow. This one's much easier because instead of going with text, we just have the person jump on the phone and let you know that they've been on the other line listening this entire time and want to talk to you. Ugh. Much less messy. We would have done it if we knew this. Yeah. less messy yeah sorry curtis yeah yeah i figured this was gonna happen too honestly oh okay okay megan did you warn him that this that you were waiting on the other line this whole time did you text him during this conversation no i didn't but

i'm really surprised i think i think you mean embarrassed, and that's okay. What's surprising to you? I mean, to be honest, like, girl, what are you doing? No, I mean, we were just like chit-chatting and stuff, and I was just trying to keep the conversation going. I don't know why he's being so weird about it.

I mean, there's definitely the chit happening on your end. I don't know if the chat was happening so much on his. Look, I'll defend you a little bit i'm a flurry texter we can call it where you text and flurries it's like yeah hey send how are you send i do but after yeah alexis after like six or seven though you stop you don't keep going forever and ever and you want you want to leave the person on the other end of the text message wanting more right like you want to leave the person on the other end of the text message wanting more, right? Like, you want to leave him hanging. Like, you have other things going on in your life.

You've got to play the game. Like, what happened? Were you just sitting staring at your phone? Like, what's going through your head during this time? I don't know. I just wanted to talk to him like, you know, as if we were just sitting together at the bar talking back and forth. It was just whatever came into my head. I don't know why

you all think that's so weird they are like i mean yeah i mean curtis is on the phone right now why don't you guys talk at this moment this is the perfect opportunity to have a discussion sure you know the all the messaging was uh excessive but like there's really no point of blocking your number because i know that you keep messaging me from other people's phones, too, and all these different numbers. What was that last part? You said other people? No, no. I have multiple phones.

I have a phone for work. I have my private phone. And I text from both phones. For all she knows, he's not getting the text. Okay, I don't know how you guys are defending this behavior. Curtis, please step in here and tell her what your boundaries are. I'm trying to defend the person that actually listens to our show, not the

person that's never heard of us before. I'm on Megan's side. Megan, you could be great, but you need to tone it down. Curtis, you gotta tell her your boundaries right now. Also, all the people texting on the pitch where you're triggering, bro. Stop texting them so much. Because she obviously is not getting it.

I mean, if he didn't want to talk to me, he would just say so. Megan, please stop texting me. Again, say it again, Curtis. Would you pretty, pretty please stop texting me? Don't go so nice. He's saying it politely. Do you get it, Megan? I mean, does that mean you don't want to talk to me at all?

Maybe calls only? I want to be just really clear about this. You just don't want to talk to me or see me. You just have to come out and say that. Yes, that's what I'm saying. I don't know if we should talk anymore. You don't know? You're not being clear with me, Curtis. I'm trying to be nice.

I'm not sure of what you mean. You have to be direct. Drop nice. Yeah, this is tough, but you got to be direct. We're going to have to be brutal here, Curtis. I think I'm just going to change my number, guys. Oh, he can't even just say it. Like, oh, wow.

See, this is why I keep talking and I'm not getting a clear answer. Oh, my God. She does have a weird point. That's a very weird point. Now she just needs his new number. I'm getting mixed signals. Just text our text board anytime you feel like you want to text Curtis, okay? 78592.

We'll forward it to him. Yeah, we'll get the new number. I mean, Curtis, you're a great guy, but you're just not really great at communication. That's not the problem. I think that's a good lesson. Guys, text back. Be better

communicators and also be better listeners. Like, Curtis, did you hear what she said, okay? She's breaking up with you she's not interested in seeing you because you don't know how to communicate properly damn there we go he feels horrible Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning we're so done with New Year, New You. This year, it's more you on Bumble.

More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you finding Gemini's because you know you always like them. More of you dating with intention because you know what you want. And you know what? We love that for you. Someone else will too. Be more you this year and find them on Bumble. Cracked up? Well, you could use our help. That's right. I'm Joel. And I am Matt. And we're from the How To Money podcast. Our show is all about helping you make sense of your personal finances so you can ditch your pesky credit card debt once and for all, make real progress on other crucial financial goals that you've got,

and just feel more in control of your money in general. You know it. For money advice without the judgment and jargon, listen to How To Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Ed Zitron, host of the Better Offline podcast. And this January, we're going to go on the road to beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada to cover the Consumer Electronics Show, tech's biggest conference.

Better Offline CES coverage won't be the usual rundown of the hottest gadgets or biggest trends, but an unvarnished look at what the tech industry plans to sell or do to you in 2025. I'll be joined by David Roth at Defector and the writer Edward Ongueso Jr. With guest appearances from Behind the Bastards' Robert Evans, It Could Happen Here's Gare Davis, and a few surprise guests throughout the show. Listen to Better Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever else you get your podcasts from.