Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update: An Ex Walks Into A Bar

Episode Date: March 27, 2026

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Starting point is 00:03:13 when I'm playing on my PS4. Oh, that's a lot from Egypt. Wow. That's awesome. You think she can see the pyramids from her house? Probably not. That's funny a dumb question. You mean it's just a bad, Brooke?
Starting point is 00:03:25 Come on. Not traveled enough. I want to be, though. So we'll come visit soon, all right? Yes. There it is. Do you think her cat is a sphinx? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Okay, that was bad. All right, here we go. Let's get this show started. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update. If you're a guy and you're out on a first date having dinner, what are some possible distractions that could derail you that you got to stay away from? Oh, that's a good question.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Like one, a rat runs across the floor in front of you. I think alert everyone, Jeff. Pretend you never saw it. It's probably the owner's pet. It helps him cook the food. like in Rattitoui. All is good. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Let's go somewhere else. Or distraction too. Let's say the waitress is a little B&L. B&L. Busty and lonely. What? Do not look at her. But she's a B&L.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Don't call her that to her face. You don't, exactly. How do you know she's lonely by looking at it? Oh, you can tell, Brooke. They have that lonely look in their eye. You just keep your eyes on the ground when you put in your order. Okay. And our listener, Eric, had a different type.
Starting point is 00:04:34 of distraction that he had to deal with. Let me guess, a busty rat. Is it maybe that, or could it even be worse than the ones I mentioned? Possibly. Eric, welcome to the show, man. Hey, thanks for taking a call. Absolutely. We'll get to the distraction on your date in a second.
Starting point is 00:04:51 First, tell us about the girl that you met. My name's Vanessa. She works in the beauty industry. Like she's an esthetician, you mean, like that? Yeah, and she is. gorgeous. In fact, I was kind of surprised that she said yes to the date. Oh. That's cute.
Starting point is 00:05:10 And so I thought, you know, I got to turn on the charm. So I took her out. Okay. And I want to take her to this bar and grill. Applebee's. I love that place. No, it's not Applebee's. It's not Applebee. It's got really good vibe. All right. And how was Vanessa when she showed up?
Starting point is 00:05:26 She looked really cute and really friendly and approachable and the thing happened. Okay. The distraction. Yeah, and it wasn't a rat or any of that. Like 20 minutes after we sat down, someone walks in to the restaurant. Who is it? He was my ex-girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Oh, my God. I thought you said there wasn't a rat. What are the odds? So do you just, I mean, dang, is it a big restaurant? Can you ignore her? It's not a big place. She was with her guy. She was with her new guy.
Starting point is 00:06:04 It was pretty awesome. When's the last time you saw her? Like, has it been years or it's, like, recent? It was about six months. Okay. Okay. And then I look over, like, a few minutes later, and, you know, I'm trying not to look over, but I see that she's, like, sucking down margaritas, and, like, and she's
Starting point is 00:06:19 laughing, and she's having a great time. Oh, God. I know Brooke is a grade. She's having fun. Well, you know how it is, like, when they come in and they're doing the extra loud laugh just to, like, get your attention. She's, like, hamming it up. I mean, it sucks for you because it ruins your.
Starting point is 00:06:33 your whole date. Even if you don't say anything, you're distracted, you're no longer fully present for... And then if you mentioned your ex, then it sounds like you give a lot of drama. Yes. But did that come up? Did your date, Vanessa, know that your ex was in the restaurant, too? I told her. I said, look,
Starting point is 00:06:48 I was super awkward, but my ex-girlfriend just came in. What was her reaction? She was, I don't know, intrigued. And I was like, don't look, don't look, but she looked anyway, of course. Oh, I want to see. And she's like, oh, wow, she's really pretty.
Starting point is 00:07:06 And I'm like, okay, anyway, let's talk about you. Why didn't you say let's go find another spot? Oh, I offered that. But Vanessa, she was like, no, no, no, it's right. It's right. Like, we were here first, and she had a point. Yeah. If your date wanted to stay through it, then that's on her.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Were you able to get things back on track? Well, that's the thing. I felt like the vibe of the date kind of changed from there. And, like, it didn't never go back. Okay. Oh, no. Are you over? your ex?
Starting point is 00:07:35 I mean, we're not together. That's not the question. I mean, I think that makes it even trickier, right? Because like, maybe Vanessa picked up on that. Well, that's the thing. At the end, I mean, there was this thing that happened. Another thing? At the end of the day, it's like we're walking out.
Starting point is 00:07:56 And I guess I just wanted to show Vanessa that I was sort of like above it all. And so I approached my ex-girlfriend's table and I said hey I hope you have a great night it was good to see you and I said your hair looks great. I know I was like why would I say that yeah but she changed her hair she changed her hair and I thought it looked good and it just came out okay well that's the part you probably should admit omit from there the conversation did Vanessa hear you compliment your ex-girlfriend's hair yeah where was she standing even I don't know she might have like she was really close to me. She definitely heard that.
Starting point is 00:08:34 And you didn't introduce Vanessa? I mean, that's the baller move. Yeah, that's like, hey Vanessa. This is my upgrade. I should have done that. Yeah. I just panicked. And I was like, I just conversating with like three or four seconds and then I left. I was out of there. And I'm sure you're all flustered
Starting point is 00:08:51 now walking Vanessa to her car. Yeah. Your hair also looks nice, by the way. What happened when you leave? We hugged in the parking lot and that was it. Yeah, this is awkward. But from the way that he's talking about it, you can tell that he regrets how he handled the situation. Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 00:09:09 For sure. I mean, it's totally unfortunate. Do you think the date would have gone flawlessly if your ex hadn't walked into that restaurant? Yeah, it just, it sucks as that happened, but it feels like it's out of my control right now. Yeah. That wasn't your fault. It's a universe. And as long as you didn't, like, go home and post a long TikTok or Instagram post about seeing your ex and how great she looked, but you're past it now.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Or message for that. pathetic to two women, not just one. Exactly. As long as you didn't do that, then we might have a chance to save this for you. Please tell us you didn't do that. I didn't do that exactly. Exactly. Oh, oh, no.
Starting point is 00:09:46 You posted on MySpace. It's going to be one of those where we find out something. Whatever damage you did to yourself, we're going to undo it when we come back and get you your second date update right after this. Hold on. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Let's recap Eric's first date for those of you just joining. Eric met a woman named Vanessa for dinner recently. She's in the beauty industry. And for the first 20 minutes, everything was great. It was perfect. The conversation was flowing. The connection was easy. It was all gravy until Eric's ex-girlfriend walked in and sat down with an eye shot.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Dude, what are the odds? Yes. So vibes changed after that. And he had to admit that his ex was there. He did. He was so weird. He told Vanessa, not sure if that was a bad idea or a horrible idea, but he did it. I mean, he had no other choice. It was necessary.
Starting point is 00:10:42 The worst idea is what happened after. It was on his mind, and that's why right before he left, he stopped by his ex's table and told her she has nice hair. And that's the bad part. So great date if it was just Eric and his ex, but Vanessa was present too and isn't calling him back. I wonder why that could be. Yeah. And as a joke earlier, I said, Eric, you didn't post a TikTok about how good your ex looked that night. And your answer was not exactly.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Yeah, what did you post? What does that mean? Well, I didn't post anything. I just, I did text my ex one time. What did you text her? I'm so sorry for the awkward encounter, and I didn't know what to say. Okay. Okay, that's actually not bad.
Starting point is 00:11:28 It could have gone way worse. Did your ex respond? She gave me a thumbs up. Oh, yeah. Okay. The sexiest of all the things you could write back. She's over it. Yeah, she doesn't like you.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Unless they were both into thumb play. You don't know, Brooke? Ooh, it's their thing. I don't. I'm not even going down. You're not advanced enough to get to that stage of romance. Nobody play thumb wars with Jeff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Definitely don't like any of my post that I sent to you because I'll read it in a different way. But let's find out what Vanessa thinks. I'm going to dial her number and we'll see what she has to say. ready, Eric? I'm ready. All right, thumbs up to that. Here we go. Hello? Hey, is this Vanessa? Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Hey, Vanessa, thank you for answering. Yes, you sound busy, sorry. Yeah, but who's this? We don't want to take up a lot of your time. We're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Okay. Good morning. And just to cut right to it, we're doing a segment called the Second Date Update,
Starting point is 00:12:34 trying to help out one of our listeners that you went out with recently. Yeah, who? It's a guy named Eric. Okay. Very sweet sounding guy. Oh, so you like talk to him or whatever so you know what happened. Oh, you're right to the point. And I like that about Vanessa.
Starting point is 00:12:52 There's no sugarcoat and anything here. All that we know that happened is Eric's ex showed up in the middle of the date. Oh, yeah. I actually honestly think he handled that really. well. Oh, really? Oh, that's good. He was worried that he was like awkward about it and yeah. No, he was 100% honest and upfront with me about it. Like, he was really classy. He even said goodbye to her to prove that he's above all the drama. So you were, you like, yeah, you liked that. I thought it was really mature. I was not expecting that. We thought for sure you were
Starting point is 00:13:29 going to say that he didn't seem like he was over his ex or something like that. Oh, no. He told me some stories and oh my god that woman is a piece of work. Whoa. Oh, so he even shared some crazy X stories, huh? Mm-hmm. So is that what upset you? I'm not upset. Where do you keep asking that?
Starting point is 00:13:51 I meant like why you're not calling it back. Yeah, we're trying to figure out what's happened with you since the date with Eric. Yeah. I mean, so we said goodbye in the parking lot, but I stayed. because I wanted to follow his ex home. Oh. What? What?
Starting point is 00:14:09 I'm just saying? Casual way you mentioned this. What do you mean? Does she make sure she got home safe? Well, no. I wanted to make sure that what happened to Eric didn't happen to the guy
Starting point is 00:14:20 that she was on a date with. Wait, what happened to Eric? What was his story? Well, it's his story, so I don't really want to share it, but it sounds like she traumatized him. Oh, no. So what happened when you got,
Starting point is 00:14:33 back to where she was going. Well, he dropped her off and she kissed him, but he did not go inside. And so I went up to talk to the guy when he bent to back to his car. Wait, wait, wait. Whoa. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:47 You parked, got out of your car, approached his car in the dark. Yeah, because I had to warn him. And I was like, what are you doing right now? Do you want to grab a drink with me? Wait, what? What's the goal by asking you this guy out? Because I wanted to warn him.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Because like Eric told me all these stories and I needed time. If they weren't stories, I could just tell them on the street. You just met Eric. You don't know what's true. What's not true. It's a one-sided story. Like Eric's still alive. It's not like you're saving someone's life.
Starting point is 00:15:21 So what happened when you went out and talked to the other guy? I told him all the things about why they broke up and how she's a big time manipulator. And he was kind of like, maybe I can kind of. to see those signs or whatever. This was like, I think, their second date, and I was like, okay. I mean, she's a bad person, I guess. But you don't.
Starting point is 00:15:41 I mean, I've been talking to Eric for like a week or so before our date, and he seemed like a trustworthy guy, and I absolutely believed him. And so you've got to trust some people out there. Sure. For some reason, Brooke doesn't trust our own listener, who just happens to be on the line right now.
Starting point is 00:16:02 quietly listening in on this phone call. I bet he is speechless right now. Because, yeah, he is there, actually, Vanessa, on the phone right now. Who is? Eric is. Yeah, I'm sorry, I didn't sneak up on you, Vanessa, but, like, what, why, why did you, why would you follow? What? I mean, you know the stories you told me.
Starting point is 00:16:26 I had to save this guy from going through what you went through. Wow. Wow. I didn't ask you to do that. No, you didn't. But I feel like I needed to give him the heads up. Well, I was trying to be honest with you. And now I feel like this could blow back on me.
Starting point is 00:16:46 How? Yes. How, Eric? We mean how, Jeff. Of course the ex-girlfriend's going to find out about this. No, he will not hear from her. I made him promise not to tell her anything. I don't know why he stopped.
Starting point is 00:17:00 going on dates with her. We trust everyone, but the woman we've never spoken. What did your ex do that was so awful? We're on the radio. I'm not going to say that. But you telling me this stuff on our date is pretty much giving me permission to go and tell this guy. Oh, no. Is it?
Starting point is 00:17:21 No, it would be permission if you told me we're going to do that. And then I say, yes, that would be permission. That's what permission is. You had already left, though. Yeah. Superman doesn't ask for permission to save somebody's life when they're in danger. He just swoops in and saves them. Okay, but Eric, honestly, was this guy in any danger because of your ex?
Starting point is 00:17:43 I don't think he was in danger. That's exactly what you said when you started to date her, bro. Wouldn't it have been nice if at the start of your last bad relationship, Vanessa had come up to you on date number two and been like, look, this girl is bad news for you. She is going to hurt you, and she would have been right. I mean, maybe, yeah, it was a pretty bad ending, and I guess that could have been good. See? Clearly, she has a heart of gold and wants to save men from terrible women, but I think we're missing the point here. If I'm just summarizing what I think I'm hearing.
Starting point is 00:18:13 It's not like a glaring red flag that she's following strangers over the night with her car. And interfering in relationships, she knows nothing about. Okay, tomato, Brooke. I pretty much said the exact same thing. We're avoiding the main question here, and that's Vanessa. So why aren't you talking to Eric since that night? Well, I was focusing on making sure that this guy was okay. The other guy.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Have you got him more than one hangout with this guy? Yeah, of course. He didn't believe me at the start. So, like, I went to go talk to him again during the day time. Wait a second. So you are seeing my ex-girlfriend's new boyfriend. Eric, they went on two dates. That's not a boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Yeah, don't be crazy. Eric, she ended it for him. Right. She's not seeing him. She's warning him. In fact, I'm seeing him again tonight, and I'm going to warn him for a third time. Wow. Oh, wait a minute. Sounds like he's enjoying the warning. This doesn't sound right. There's something off here.
Starting point is 00:19:15 You know what? Go with your gut, Eric. You're right. The thing that's off is that I haven't offered to send you two out on another date. Thank you for reminding me, Eric, because we would love to put up however much money it takes to get YouTube back together. for one more meetup. I guess I should ask Vanessa, what do you think? Listen, Eric, my focus right now is in this other guy, and once you 100% believe me not to go out with your ex, then I will focus on you. I don't know, Vanessa. Well, we're out of time, and it's sounding like it's a no for Eric.
Starting point is 00:19:50 So instead, the gift cards are going to Vanessa and the dude that she followed home to say from dating your ex-girlfriend. I don't think I've ever said those words in my entire life, but I'm glad that I get to today. No. Because at least it gives Jose hope that someday a woman might follow him home without asking. Oh, yeah, that has to be how it goes down. Oh, so romantic.
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Starting point is 00:21:19 Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Grega lesbian, Michael Marantini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trap. Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at Americopa County as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges.
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Starting point is 00:22:09 We never asked she did sound busy when we first called her Like she could have just actually been in her car Outside of her apartment Yeah Just scoping out the place Ready to save any dudes from their own demise It could get worse like if the other girl sees her Then she's gonna start following her
Starting point is 00:22:25 Eventually they're gonna stock each other Yeah You know I feel like he needs to call his accent and warn her. Yeah. It's always good when a crazy girl says, you know, that other girl is crazier than me. Look out.
Starting point is 00:22:37 But there's a whole podcast full of crazy people going on even crazier dates. It's ours. Yeah. So go find it. We're the ones hosting that. You'll feel a little bit less crazy when you find us on Spotify, Apple, wherever you get yours. Brooke and Jeffrey's second date update. Like and subscribe.
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