Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update: Awkward Hugs & Hot Dogs

Episode Date: November 14, 2025

The guy on the phone today says he left his date alone in his apartment and when he came back she was ready to BOLT away. We’re gonna try to figure out what spooked her in your Second Date Update podcast!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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kept on stage on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts. And she said, Johnny, the kids didn't come home last night. Along the central Texas plains, teens are dying, suicides that don't make sense, strange accidents, and brutal murders. In what seems to be, a plot ripped straight out of Breaking Bad. Drugs, alcohol, trafficking of people. There are people out there that absolutely.

know what happened. Listen to Paper Ghosts, the Texas Teen Murders on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know, it's not the holidays without a little drama. Yeah. Welcome to the second date podcast with Brooke and Jeffrey. And yesterday, we had our awkward Thursday phone call where a sister who's hosting her whole family has decided to charge not just for the dinner.

Oh, man. But for her grandparents to get VIP parking. Yeah. And for a new garage door. And she still got time to add more fees by Thanksgiving. I mean, she definitely was in charge of the situation. If you didn't hear it, you need to listen. There are a lot of comments about what went down.

Your guys' comments were killing me. But T-Card said, I need to call my sister and tell her how much I appreciate her after listening to this. Oh, that's true. And then M said, thank God I only listened from my family. If my sister or brother heard, I feel like they probably might give it a shot. Yeah, that's definitely the one episode you don't want to share with any family members, for sure. I know that. That's a good point. Oops. Hey, keep those comments coming. We got a brand new second date for you, and it's starting right now.

Second Date Update. You ever see those videos of marathon runners who are in the last stretch right before the finish line? And they start celebrating a little bit too early. That's the very last second somebody else passes them Or they run right into a car Oh my gosh Dude, I missed that viral video Well, it also can happen on a first date

Because one of our listeners said in his email He got all the way back to his place And just couldn't cross the finish line So he needs our help today I don't know if I want to know what that means Yeah, that's okay I know Brooke you like to cross the finish line line in the first five minutes. But Anthony does it a little bit differently. Anthony, welcome to

the show. What's up, guys? Okay. Can we like establish what your finish line is? Again, you're jumping right to the finish line at the very start of the call. Let's get to brought up. Let's get to the finish line in a normal amount of time. Okay. We'll begin with the girl's name. So her name's Olivia. Olivia or Julia? Olivia. Olivia. Olivia. Okay. And according to my notes, it says you met Olivia on a dating app. So what did you two bond over that brought you together? Well, she had something on her dating profile that made me laugh. Oh, that's awesome.

What was it? She said, I never know what to do with my hands during hugs. Don't you just put them on the person's back? You like embrace, right? I guess the question is where on the back? Do you put them? Do you go high? Do you go low?

Do you go one? Her brother runs your hands through hair. She loves and just a full-on. I do not do that Okay It depends on the energy I guess Yeah Okay

So you related to that You thought it was funny It's silly right Yeah for sure And I was like I don't know either Oh I'm imagining a hug between you two

It's very confusing Okay so that was your funny response Back to her and it's It sparked conversation Yeah And we said we should Hug in person and test it out So

That's cute I thought I was in You know I thought that was my green light. That is trying to be green light. What do you mean? For sure. It's definitely getting a hug. It's a smooth line to start things off. So did you go to dinner? What'd you guys do for your date? Yeah, well, we hugged when we've seen each other and Oh, when you very first met. Okay, hold on. Don't tell me you were that guy that's like,

where's my hug? I tried not to, but then she was kind of like put her arms out, so I just went in. Okay, good. That is such a cute first interaction. Yeah. But where did you put your hands? I don't even remember. I was like, like so caught up in the moment. Oh, it's R-rated. Sounds like. All right. You dog, Anthony.

I could tell there's an attraction because every time I talk, she would either touch or slap my hand, so. Slaping. I thought it was kind of flirty. I'm not sure if 100% you're reading that right.

Yeah. I don't know. You know, people who like slap the table when they're laughing or they, you know, like slap their knee. Yeah, or just like, I'm going to get out of here. Slap the waiter as he wants.

by. Exactly. Okay. So what did you two talk about during your date? Because according to your email, it sounds like you bonded over both having bad roommates?

Yeah, yeah. I used to have a roommate who would always leave loads of wet laundry in the washer for a day. You just forget about them. Yeah, that's all mildewy. Yeah.

Until my entire apartment smelled like mold. Yeah. I mean, that's a good, like, relatable. Totally. Totally. What was her horror story

about her roommate? She had, like, this old roommate who used to keep, like, 40 packs of hot dogs in her fridge or something. You never know we eat a glizzy. Come on. Well, she ate them raw. This is the weird thing. She ate them raw straight out of the bag. Oh, Queens, gross.

Yeah, so you two bonded over awkward hugs and midnight hot dogs. Yeah, bad roommates. Okay. Yeah. Let's go to the finish line part because in your email, you said you were bad. back at your apartment, and what happened? Yeah, I mean, like, our whole conversation, like, maybe the easiest flowing conversations

I've ever had on a first date. That's why I suggested we get more, maybe more drinks back of my place. Okay. No bad roommates waiting there. Okay. That's funny. How did she react when you asked her?

Boy, she was down. She said, like, let's go. Oh, God. So we get to my apartment. I gave her the full tour. I hit the bathroom real quick. And I tell her, to help herself to whatever drink she wants to get in the fridge.

Okay. When I came out, she already got her coat back on. She tells me it's later than she thought, and you just had to go. Oh, no. What do you have in your fridge that's weird? That's what I'm thinking, Alexis. What stinks in there? Or there was 10 packs of hot dogs in there, and she was like, oh, no, not again.

Yeah. She's like, only 10? Yeah, at least 20 in this. I'm hungry tonight. I mean, we have heard a lot of stories of people who have things in their own. apartment that they didn't realize it was strange, and somebody else found it, like, off-putting. It's possible. I mean, other than the pole and the swing in your living room, is there anything else weird that could have, like, driven her away? She's on the swing when he comes out.

I got to go. Boy, it sucks because she hasn't answered my text since that night. Oh. So she... I know it's something wrong. And you've reached out. Yeah, but I'm not trying to, like, stalk her and stuff, so I just quit. It's good. That's good. We're just saying I'm not trying to stalk her. So now we're going to stalk her. All right.

Or call her. Sorry, I said they're on the word. Yeah. Slap her with questions. Slapping is their love language. Slapping hands. She's going to verbally slap her hands. She's the only one allowed to do that in the relationship.

We'll leave the slapping to you two. We'll just ask some normal questions. When we come back and call Olivia to get your second date update with awkward hugs and hot dogs. Oh, man. That sounds like a cool man. I know. Sounds kind of nice, actually. It's an awful board game.

We'll do it right after this. Hold on. Second date update Some couples bond over similar TV shows similar coffee orders similar unpaid parking tickets Oh my god that reminds me Oh shoot

Uh oh oh brock Uh oh call your husband Let's have a bonding moment But our listener Anthony today says he bonded With a woman named Olivia Over awkward hugs And roommates eating hot dog straight out of the bag.

Yeah, hot dogs and hugs. Is this a funny term? Yeah, it's a true love story packed with delicious preservatives. Yeah. We're trying to make it come to life today. The weird part, though, happened at the end of the night back at Anthony's place when he told her to go make herself a drink. And by the time he got back to the kitchen, she had her coat on, saying it was actually

late and she had to go. Yeah. So either Olivia truly lost track of time or there's something Anthony isn't telling us. Yeah, about what's in his house, any fridge. Maybe he doesn't know, guys, like, honestly. I mean, he could. That is a good point. Like, it could be really helpful, Anthony.

Like, maybe you'll learn something that women don't like about your house, and you can change it. Hey, guys, I'm not a weird guy. That's what you're thinking. I mean, I'll have some weird stuff hanging around, but I'm not a weird guy. Okay, listen. Some weird stuff. No weird guys ever know they're weird guys, Anthony. That might be the self-realization we come to.

And then fast forward, he's like, it was the test. 10,000 ninja stars on my wall? Yes, exactly. No way. What? Not everybody has 20 pediguanas. Let's find out how not weird you really are, Anthony. I'm going to dial Olivia's number, and she hopefully will validate everything you just said.

Are you ready to do this? Yeah. Okay. You got this, a little weirdo. We're on your side for now, but here we go. Hello? Hi, we're looking to speak with Olivia. Yes, this is she.

Hey, Olivia. We are a radio show. A bunch of people in the room here. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Good morning, Olivia. Welcome to the show. Hi. What is this?

Great. Yeah, this is, it's a segment that we do called the Second Date Update. Not sure if you're familiar with that, but we're trying to help out one of our listeners that you went on a date with recently. and afterwards he's feeling like you're trying to distance yourself a little bit. Well, what's that, Jeff? You haven't responded to any of his texts. He's trying to sound nicer, Brooke. I mean, she knows.

She knows. Yeah. Is this Anthony? No, this is Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. No, she makes this about Anthony Jeff. Yeah, the guy that we're talking about, his name's Anthony. That's true. What a coincidence.

Oh, my God. Wait, is that, oh, my God, like, oh, my God. So cool. I'm not like it. Men are just so disappointing. Oh, no. Preach, girl. Okay, yeah.

I told him not to come through our show. We thought it was weird, too. Wait. Why are you lumping him in with disappointing men? Yeah, what happened? Because it sounds like you guys had a nice date. It's just that every single time that you have, like, you feel like you start to have a connection with the guy. He just immediately ruins it.

Oh. Yeah. That's kind of our thing. I mean, yeah, but what did he do? Well, we had a great time on our date, but then we ended up going back to his place. Yeah, we heard that. We were asking Anthony about this when we spoke to him if there was anything weird inside of his place that may have come across weird or been a turnoff. He said no.

It's a perfect, perfect room. But you left for some reason. It sounds like you were only there for like five or ten minutes before you bailed. Yeah, well, that wasn't originally my plan. and I was thinking that we might have, like, maybe some, like, romantic time because I haven't really felt close to a guy, like, in probably years. Whoa. Wow.

You were very comfortable with him. That's great. Yeah, you liked him. It must have been a pretty big thing that happened to change from romantic time to darting away from his apartment. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, we were having a great time, but then at one point in the night, he excused himself to go to the bathroom.

And, I mean, I'm just assuming he's changing. Okay. What happened? Well, when he's in the other room, he decides, like, from down the hall, he just tells me something that I, like, was not prepared to hear. What? Oh, like, yelling through the door. Yeah, like, he's going down to the bathroom and he says... What?

Well, he tells me he has hep C. Oh. Whoa. He says he has hepatitis C? Oh, that's serious. Yeah, I don't know if I can. He didn't say that on the radio. No, that's okay.

Are we allowed to, yeah. People have it, and they should be open about it. I mean, it's interesting to casually mention it as you're walking away. I don't know. You know, it seems like a bigger conversation. He seems, like, very confident about it. Like, oh, it's no big deal. Hey, by the way, I have hep C.

Oh, okay. So did that change your mind? But the yelling it down the hall is the weird part. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Oh, God. Well, what? What?

What? I never said that. Yeah, hold on. Hold on there, Anthony, because we need to inform Olivia that that is your date on the other line listening to this. He's been there the one time. Yeah, that's how this segment works, as we have them quietly listen so that they could hear what they did wrong. And Anthony, apparently... I never said I had hep C.

What? You never have... You definitely 100% did. Oh. No, I didn't. There's no way. The only time we were talking loudly is when I was in the bathroom. I know.

I asked you, hey, is there anything that I should know? And you said you had Hep C. Oh. Oh. That seems pretty straightforward. That's a very honest response, which is good. Oh, my God. And not something that seems like you would forget.

No, you asked me what drinks I have to mix with, and I told you I have Pepsi. Pepsi. Oh, thanks God. Hepsy, Hepsy, Hepsy. You said Pepsi, Anthony? Are you making that up because you're feeling a little bit embarrassed? I swear to God, she asked me, what do you have to drink? And I said, Pepsi.

And he could have misheard you through the door or two if she's like, hey, anything I need it. And he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, drink. Anthony did tell us that he encouraged you to go make yourself a drink while he was using the bathroom. It makes sense that he'd be talking about what sodas to mix with. Yeah. Yeah, he definitely, he definitely did. That could have been my mistake. Alexis, you've been with a lot of guys who've had Hep C.

Does this seem like something that would check out? I wouldn't even talk to him through the bathroom door. Don't get that close to a guy in the bathroom ever. Well, he did a shouting from down the hall through the bathroom. It's like, I'll talk you in five minutes when you're out. That's actually a better point. I mean, maybe this is all just one really horrible miscommunication. Olivia, do you believe him that he was shouting Pepsi at you?

You were there. I mean, we did have a great time, like, all before this happened. So I guess, Anthony, I can believe you on this one. Okay. Okay. Oh, that's good. Maybe you can get together and discuss all the diseases you have and don't have together. Yeah.

Okay. I'm just happy that we finally sorted this out because that was quite a misinterpretation. Yeah. Yes. I mean, I have had Hep C before, but that was like earlier this year. It's gone now. Wait. I don't think that's how Hep C works, my man.

Wait, what? I'm joking, guys, not really. Okay. That is a poorly timed joke. Wow. And it's starting to think that maybe we should double. It felt real. Is it possible that you have Pepsi and Hepsy?

Oh. Can you have both? I can mix them together. Okay. Oh, all right. I don't know if that sounds appealing. I just tomato tomato tomato. Oh, sure.

I don't think this one is tomato tomato tomato. It's like tomato cumquot. It's a lot of questions are going through my head right. now but the main one is Olivia would you like to go out on one more date with Anthony who is according to him totally hep C free it's really up to you a Pepsi full yes lots of Pepsi done and don't even drink high C that's a whole other if you're willing to give him another chance we'd pay for it um I mean I do I do believe him that he said he had Pepsi Yeah, maybe before we go out, he should go get tested to make sure that that he's telling the truth.

Okay, that's reasonable. Something, Anthony, you'll agree to that, right? Yeah, I mean, I'm pretty busy, but I could set up a date, I guess, to go and get tested. This feels pretty important, Anthony. What the heck? I'm not I think he has it now. Yeah. No, I'm just super busy, guys.

Okay. Okay. I don't know what's going on anymore. I don't know. Did he say busy or did he shout Hep C again? Just protection's important. Just be cautious out there, Olivia. Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.

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That's part of the MyCultura podcast network available on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Isn't it weird to think that this entire thing could have been avoided if he just had Sprite in his fridge? Oh my God, shut up! One choice led to this entire thing.

He wouldn't have had to reach out to us. She wouldn't have been running away from his apartment. They might have been engaged by now for all we know. That is quite the commercial for Sprite. Yeah. I see it now. I bet Pepsi's stock goes down after the second day. Sprite or 7 up.

Look, I don't want to get into Cola Wars started here. But it sounds like the good news is they're back onto the right track and they're not going to yell mixer options across the apartment through closed doors any. Yeah, thank goodness. Let's just not talk to each other while we're in the bathroom. Yeah. Yeah. It's just a good rule of thumb. Nothing good happens that way, Jeff. I don't know if I go that

extreme with it, but yeah. Yeah, so if you need help with your dating life, though, unless you're talking through closed bathroom doors, you can always reach out to the show. We'll call that person who's not calling you back. You can go find all of our second day podcasts available online wherever you get them at Brook and Jeffrey.

I'm Robert Smith, and this is Jacob Goldstein, and we used to host a show called Planet Money. And now we're back making this new podcast called Business History about the best ideas and people and businesses in history. And some of the worst people, horrible ideas and destructive companies in the history of business. First episode, how Southwest Airlines use cheap seats and free whiskey to fight its way into the airline is. The most Texas story ever. Listen to Business History on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

On an all new episode of IHard Radio's Las Culturistas, Jennifer Lawrence is dishing. Jennifer Lawrence. Let's go! From her hilariously awkward run-ins with A-Lister's. I don't know what I was expecting, but he was just like, nice to meet you. To her unfiltered take on beauty treatments.

I'm so upset I think the Botox before that. And a jaw-dropping reveal you won't see coming. I don't know if I can announce this, but I'm just going to. Open your free IHeard Radio app. Search Loss Culturistas. And listen to the full podcast now. what up y'all it's your boy kev on stage i want to tell you about my new podcast called not my best moment where i talked to artists athletes entertainers creators friends people i admire who had massive

success about their massive failures what did they mess up on what is their heartbreak and what did they learn from it i got judged horribly the judges were like you're trash i don't know how you got on the show check out not my best moment with me kev on stage on the i heart radio app Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts. On this week's episode of the next chapter, I, D.D. Jakes, get to sit down with Oprah Winfrey, a media mogul philanthropist, and global trailblazer. I could feel inside myself at four or five years old

looking through the screen on the back porch that this is not going to be my life. Listen to the next chapter on the iHeart Radio at Apple Podcast or wherever you get, Your podcast, episodes drop weekly. And she said, Johnny, the kids didn't come home last night. Along the Central Texas Plains, teens are dying. Suicides that don't make sense.

Strange accidents and brutal murders. In what seems to be, a plot ripped straight out of Breaking Bad. Drugs, alcohol, trafficking of people. There are people out there that absolutely know what happened. Listen to Paper Ghosts, the Texas Teen Murders, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.