Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update: Big Fragrance Energy

Episode Date: June 23, 2025

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It's your brand new second date update. It's about to start. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. We're getting into presents on the first date. Yeah. What's the biggest present you've ever given Jose on a first date? Cuz you're the present guy. He's good question for you. Oh, yeah, give me time I mean the usual is like a candle okay stuffy Yeah, something simple or anything if we've built any rapport if she's like, you know I love clams and I'm gonna buy you a little clam stuffy I mean Jose's love language is definitely gift. Oh, yeah

Sure, so we'll get into that but first comments from our lovely listeners. Yeah, well Something like that It says I tell everyone about you guys I've been listening for almost a decade. My roommate just said, do you want to hear this insane show on TikTok? Like girl, I told you about them first. That must feel so good. We do have a lot of OGs that are like, no, no, no.

I knew them before they were like crazy viral. Totally, totally. Thank you so much for being here. Yeah. Always leave your comments. We love to read them and please subscribe and share with your friends who are just like, like crazy viral. Totally, totally. Hey, thank you so much for being here. Yeah. Always leave your comments. We love to read them and please subscribe and share with your friends who are just not on it like you are. Okay. It's Brooke and Jeffrey and your second date starts

now. Second date update. Is it okay to bring a gift on a first date? Oh, yeah, of course it is. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. My take as long as it's yes small thoughtful and diamonds. Low pressure like a little quirky keychain with their name on it then why not. What about like a small dog? Well that's a lot of pressure. Okay alright somewhere in the middle. You want to avoid something that's too expensive nothing too over the top romantic because the goal is to just be sweet, not serious. If you can link it to some inside joke you already have, it's even better. Yeah, absolutely. And our listener, Allison, mentioned a gift was involved in her first date recently. I don't know the

parameters of it or what exactly happened, so let's talk to her about it. Allison, hey, thanks for joining us. Hi, thanks for having me. What did you get us as a gift? Oh, uh... That's presumptuous. Well, I'm just saying, I thought that she was into gift giving.

Oh, okay. Well, before we get to the gift, let's start with who's the guy we're calling and how did you meet him? Well, his name is Cory, and I met him on a dating app Okay, okay. I'm so curious if you were the gift giver or receiver in this situation. I was actually the receiver Weird that he would give a gift and be that excited about a date and then not be calling you back Yeah, that's the thing. So it was kind of my idea. I told him that he should bring a little gift

to make a first impression. Oh. Oh, you asked for it. OK. OK. That really changes the dynamic. Yeah. That makes more sense than not calling,

like, why you're on the phone. Yeah. It's good to have a woman who knows what she wants. So how did he receive that? Did he laugh at first? I would think that someone was joking Yeah, it was a little bit of a joke. But also on the other hand, it's also like well Why shouldn't guys come with a little offering? You know, nothing big nothing too crazy Yeah, I think you're right. But naturally like the guy should already show up with something tiny not

What did you want him to bring you that's the thing it's up to him I think you'd be cute to kind of figure out like what is he gonna bring to impress me but I also told them nothing too serious okay so this is more fun you're not going in with big expectations you're just trying to see how his brain works and what type of item he's gonna get for you. And get something out of it. Okay, so what did he end up bringing for you? A cinnamon roll scented candle. Oh, okay.

Nothing says romance like Cinnabon at the mall. Smells a little like grandma, but it's safe, right? Yeah. Who doesn't love the smell of cinnamon? Yeah, it smells great. What was your reaction to that i thought it was funny i mean throughout the entire date i started calling him bfe big fragrance energy oh he's got bfe okay okay there you go okay you created an inside joke honestly it's pretty smart

of the guy too because now anytime you smell cinnamon rolls, you're gonna think of him I Did ask him like why he chose the cinnamon rolls then and he is like, oh I imagined you smelling like this Look, I thought was kind of cute interesting Do you work at a mall is that maybe No, I don't Could be worse. Do you work at a mall? Is that maybe why you thought he'd smell like that? No, I don't.

I just imagined it. I don't know why he imagined it. I think he probably couldn't come up with another reason. And he was just blurting out whatever came through his head. It's the closest one to the checkout aisle, basically, in this candle. Yeah. OK, take us through the rest of the date.

I mean, we weren't only talking about candles, but he let me text him a candle recommendation list. Oh. Because I got into candles a couple years ago Wait, could he have been insulted by that? Like maybe like the implication is here's a bunch of other candles You should buy for me. Yeah, that's the flavor that you chose because you're wrong I mean, I think I would have been insulted if I gifted a candle and then I got sent back You give someone a ring and they're like, here's better rings.

Yeah, I didn't think it offended him when it was like happening when I said to do them because we were laughing and stuff. OK, but then at the end of the day, I was open for a kiss because it was going so well. Yeah, but he just gave me a hug. And then I was like, OK, well, maybe still being a gentleman or something, because I thought he was going to ask me in the next 48 hours to go out on the next date But he didn't like maybe he actually was offended like you guys are saying Did you tell him that he had to bring a present on the next date at any point? No, no, no, no, no, no

No, it was kind of like a one-time thing Yeah, but with the list that you send in his mind it might be implied that he's expected to show up. Oh my gosh, what if he's saving up for a candle? Like that's all, he's like, I just need $12. Candles are a lot more than $12. Really? Yeah, he's trying to knock out multiple candles on your list. It could be a big problem, so.

Uh oh, see, you overwhelmed him with wax. You expected a date within 48 hours, that hasn't happened. How long has it been maybe a week Nothing and you know I'm not just playing cuz I really do like him and he's really freaking cute And I really thought we had something and it's easy for you to reach out to and be like, oh my god Look at my cute candle. Here's a picture of it in my house Be like oh my god look at my cute candle. Here's a picture of it in my house I had to blow it out for ten minutes, but I'm back

Blow a candle out that soon my husband did you do that? Have you texted him a picture using the candle I did I did I mean the first time it makes sense But then that was like awkwardly the last thing that was texted Did it would be kind of funny if you took your candle with you everywhere you wait and set them updates like here's the candle Let's not laugh this was a very very cute gift I feel like there's a really sincere reason that he's not calling you back. Oh, you're getting serious. Okay, sorry, Jeff.

I didn't know this series. I don't appreciate making jokes of true romance. So let's try and do this the right way when we come back. We'll call Cory and get you your second date update right after this. Okay, thank you. Hold on. Second date update.

Imagine sticky sweet sugar melting into ribbons of cinnamon spice. Oh my gosh. With the aroma of buttery dough rising into the air like temptation itself. Oh wow, I think I'm pregnant. Did you just make that sexy somehow? Yeah, that sounds amazing. Doesn't just smell good, it seduces the room. What? What I just described was a gift

our listener, Allison, received on her first date, a cinnamon roll scented candle from Corey. Most people think of grandmas, but not Jeff. They think of cinnamon rolls. Or them all. Yeah, sure. You know where my mind goes, but afterwards, Corey has disappeared, just like a box of Cinnabon left in our break room.

I mean, honestly. The one thing Allison thinks she may have done wrong is send him a list of other candle scents that she likes, which even Brooke agreed is a little bit presumptuous. Right, Brooke? I could see it being read wrong. Yeah, absolutely. I don't think that that was her intention But yeah, I have a husband who loves candles and he has a long list of his favorite How to care for the candle how to cut the wick. There is a lot of rules

My rule about candles is whatever you do don't eat it. Yeah, I have to remind myself every time I know Alison you didn't do that, right? You didn't bite into your cinnamon roll candle. No, no, no, no I mean, that's true. You never know what happens on these second-aid updates people end up doing weird stuff We never thought of all the time. So Let's call Cory and find out if he's a candle fiend, just like Brooks husband. Here we go. I'm going to dial his number right now. Hello. Hey, we're looking to speak with Corey.

Speaking. Hey, this is a radio show yeah what's up Cory super cool radio show obviously based on what you just heard no but we're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning I'm just so confused so many people yeah a lot of people what's going on well this is a segment that we do It's called second date update. We're trying to help out one of our listeners Who's asked us to reach out to you a woman you went out with recently named Allison Yeah, okay first impressions about Allison um She's an interesting girl.

She's definitely a quirky person. Interesting and quirky are good things, right? Not always. Okay. We know that something must be up because you have not reached out to Allison trying to arrange a second date and she just is a little confused about why it hasn't happened. arrange a second date and she just is a little confused about why it hasn't happened. Yeah I think um she's just she's a little odd. Uh. Alison's odd. Yeah she's a little odd. She had asked for me to bring her a gift to our first date. Yeah I mean she told us about that and

actually she said she really appreciated the gift that you got her. Yeah. Oh she did. Yeah Cinnamon roll candle Correct, yes I mean, okay. Is that the reason? Well, no, so she I don't know if she told you but she actually in fact got me To get wait. She brought you something. She didn't mention that at all to get wait she brought you something she did mention that at all wow to be honest she kind of surprised me because I thought I was really the only one who was gonna be bringing a gift but I love that she set him up like here we give me a gift to

test him and then she had a gift to guys don't get gifts very often yeah it seems like that would make you feel special right why are you framing it as a bad thing well it wasn't so much like the idea of the gift it was the gift that Yeah, unless you're a romantic. It seems like that would make you feel special. Right, why are you framing it as a bad thing? Well, it wasn't so much like the idea of the gift. It was the gift that she brought that made me feel a bit uneasy. Uneasy? Oh, I am so curious as to what she brought. Is it like not the right stuffed animal?

Hopefully it's not her baby teeth that she's been saving for the right guy. That would be uneasy. Or her stuffed animal with her baby teeth in it. If it was a necklace, that'd be cute. What was the gift? The first one, it was a rock that she found on the sidewalk that morning. A rock?

That could be kind of funny. Is it shaped like a heart or something? No, just a rock. I just thought weird taking it because she said it was her lucky rock and she had given it to me like it had nothing to do with me. Yeah but at that point she just found it. It can't be that lucky. You know it's not like it's... It was lucky for that day. Yeah you gotta go buy a lottery ticket. Okay so a rock that she found this morning what was gift number two? The second gift she handed me was like a homemade coupon book.

I don't know, have you seen one of those? Yeah, like this is good for one back rub. This is good for... I'll do the dishes. They're usually sexy things. Yeah. Well, they're usually things in relationships. Is that what it was?

One coupon was for one good existential conversation Another one was about like a midnight call where we talk about aliens Specifically you can't talk about those at lunchtime The other one was one deep discussion about the meaning of socks in society. Hmm. Oh. Socks, like on your feet? It had to have been a joke.

I mean, that sounds funny. They all sound funny. Yeah. Well, it's also kind of romantic. Do you know, was it a joke? I mean, she's a bit woo-woo, so it seems like probably on brand for her. Oh.

OK. I just kind of like kill the mood socks doesn't turn him on Jeff yeah does you well I know how to bring the mood right back up and that's by letting you know that Allison is on the other line right now listening waiting to talk to you about alien conspiracy theories so Go ahead, Allison. What? Hey, Cory. Allison, what are you doing? I really thought the date went great, honestly, and I'm a little shocked right now that you're finding that little coupon book. I made you weird.

I think it's fun, especially like the stocks in society, like stocks are underrated. Like they say a lot about culture, personality, like way more than people realize. Okay. It just was a bit odd for the first time. Allison, it's a little strange that you didn't bring it up with us. I didn't, you guys ever really asked?

About the existential coupon book? Well, I mean, I agree with all of the things that you're saying, but putting it into a coupon book on a first date, I mean, I agree with all of the things that you're saying, but putting it into a coupon book on a first date, I think that's the part that's a little odd. But that's why we thought it was a joke, though. Like, were you kidding? Were you being lighthearted about the aliens?

Yes. Like we can have that call anytime. OK, everything else. So she's just joking about the time frame when she can have the alien discussion and not just midnight midnight any time of day But you are down to chop it up about it. It is funnier when you say aliens at midnight for some Okay, Cory does that clear it all up for you It's pretty much what I thought I mean, I don't know you date somebody like her and maybe Your mind opens up to some new ideas and some new experiences. Yes, I can I can open your mind and all that good stuff

My mind is pretty open but I don't know just a bit too much I mean come on. What about big fragrance energy guy? Bfe I mean if I'm not feeling it. I'm not feeling it. I'm not sure like I mean Allison if this is how Cory feels maybe he's not the right guy for you You need somebody that matches your same vibe your your same energy that you're looking for. She needs to find a right sock to her left sock, Jeff. That's what it is. So romantic.

Oh, but I like him. And I mean, I didn't even tell you there's another coupon in there that's one free awkward hug. Oh, awkward one. Oh, an awkward one. That's so funny. You guys can hug and be like, no, no, no. That was way too good.

We gotta make it weirder. I feel bad about that. I love it. I think it's so good! You guys can hug and be like, no, no, no, that was way too good. We gotta make it weirder. I feel bad about that the whole day. I think it's so good. Cory, you don't wanna pass up that opportunity because we would pay for you two to go out on another date if you'll agree to it. Just give it one chance. Maybe even an awkward kiss?

Oh, it's so funny. I actually think your host should go on a date with her because she seems really excited about a lot of the things she's saying. Bro, me and you on her triple date. Oh my god, triple awkward hug, you mean? Yeah! I'm into it, I would say.

Anybody else want in our hug circle? I was Cory. I was Cory. Even though this didn't end up working out, there's not going to be a second date, I do think something positive came out of this. We were able to figure out that you're two different people after two different things and that's OK. Yeah, I just say like Corey you can't use that coupon book if

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Oh, you're on her side now. Most of the time, coupons are like one free back rub. One day of me doing chores naked in the house. And those are so old and played out. It's nice to hear someone actually put some creativity and like shake it up a little bit. Dude, I want to do the sock one. Like, when do we do the sock segment?

Yeah. Let her on and just let her go. That would be fun. But of course, you know us men, we don't like new ideas or creative shake ups to our normal routine. We're simple creatures who like the same old crap over and over and over forever till we're dead. Thank you. And somehow someone's gonna say, Brooke, why are you saying such mean things about men?

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