Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update - Second Date Update Classic: Cowboy Confusion

Episode Date: March 29, 2025

One of our listeners said she made the first move and left her comfort zone to hit on a handsome guy. That decision lead her here but maybe we can help her finish strong with a Second Date Update! Get your 2nd Date Update Merch For A Cause HERE!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

45 years ago, a Virginia soul band called the Edge of Daybreak recorded their debut album Behind Bars. Record collectors consider it a masterpiece. The band's surviving members are long out of prison, but they say they have some unfinished business. The Edge of Daybreak, Eyes of Love, was supposed to have been followed up by another app. Listen to Soul Incarcerated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Dressing. Dressing.

Oh, French dressing. Exactly. Oh, that's good. I'm AJ Jacobs and my current obsession is puzzles. And that has given birth to my podcast, The Puzzler. Something about Mary Poppins? Exactly. This is fun. You can get your daily puzzle nuggets delivered straight to your ears.

Listen to The Puzzler every day on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm ready to fight. Oh, this is fighting words. Okay. I'll put the hammer back. Hi, I'm George M. Johnson, a bestselling author with the second most banned bulletin in the history of the world. I'm ready to fight. Oh, this is fighting words. Okay, I'll put the hammer back. Hi, I'm George M. Johnson, a bestselling author with the second most banned book in

America. Now more than ever, we need to use our voices to fight back. Part of the power of black queer creativity is the fact that we got us, you know? We are the greatest culture makers in world history. Listen to Fighting Words on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. We are the greatest culture makers in world history. Listen to Fighting Words on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. My name is Brendan Patrick Hughes, host of Divine Intervention.

This is a story about radical nuns in combat boots and wild haired priests trading blows with J. Edgar Hoover in a hell-bent effort to sabotage a war. J. Edgar Hoover was furious. He was out of his mind, and he wanted to bring the Catholic left to its knees. Listen to Divine Intervention on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Bob Pipman, chairman and CEO of iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I am Bob Pipman, Chairman and CEO of iHeart Media.

I'm excited to introduce a brand new season of my podcast, Math and Magic, Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing. I'm having conversations with some folks across a wide range of industries, to hear how they reach the top of their fields and the lessons they learned along the way that everyone can use. I'll be joined by innovative leaders like chairman and CEO of Elf Beauty,

Tarang Amin. Legendary singer-songwriter and philanthropist, Jewel. Being a rock star is very fun, but helping people is way more fun. And Damian Maldonado, CEO of American Financing. I figured out the formula, I just have to work hard, then that's magic. Join me as we uncover innovations in data and analytics, the math, and the ever important creative analytics, the math, and the ever important creative spark, the magic.

Listen to math and magic on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. You found it, the Second Aid Update podcast. Thank you so much for being here. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning, of course, and we do want to remind you that for the first time ever, we have Second Aid Update merch. Yes! Don't miss out on it.

Yes, it's so cute. It's designed by legitimately like a world renowned ski and snowboard designer, which is pretty sweet. That's super cool. And it makes us look cool, doesn't it? Yeah. If only I could ski and snowboard good, but you know. And even cooler is 100% of the proceeds.

We don't see a penny of this go to Convoy of Hope, which is a fantastic organization still trying to help people rebuild their lives after the LA wildfires So they're amazing so much for being here that link for the merch is in the show notes right now And hey enjoy a second date update Second date update When you meet someone and you chat with them for just a few minutes But there's an obvious connection there and you have a lot of fun together

Can that be considered an insta date? Or do you need to have like an official meetup for it to count? I think it could be a hangout. It can be the first meeting, but it's not a date. It's a conversation. I disagree. I think it is like an insta date is considered a real date because I've had many, many experiences that you wouldn't call a by the books, pre-prepared hangout. And next thing you know,

all the paper towels are gone from the dispenser and you're both calling the maintenance guy asking for assistance. Why is there a maintenance guy available? I don't expect you guys to understand how fun works, but you just leave that to me. I'm just saying, I think that counts. And that's why we got in touch with one of our listeners

who said that she had an insta date recently. Her name is Amanda. So are you the clingy one in the relationship like Jeffrey is Amanda? Well, I guess we'll see, right? All right, well, you and I are on the same page, Amanda, but for my clued out co-host over here, why don't you tell us what happened?

Yeah, so I met this guy, Zach, a couple weeks ago. My friend, Claire, her job is super cool and trendy, and they usually have like a happy hour, like a work happy hour. Oh, like her company is one of those that, it's like, yeah, as much food as you want, all the vacation time and we constantly drink together.

Yeah, it's pretty awesome. Her friends are much cooler than me, but that's why I went. And like I said, I met this guy, Zack, and he was extremely good looking. Oh, and I don't usually go up to guys, but I mean, it just was the atmosphere. We went to like this traditional cowboy bar. Mm. Oh.

Traditional, that's funny. Yeah. A dive bar, I think is what you mean. Yeah. What? No, probably one with like line dancing and country music and stuff. Yeah, like the bar stills were all horses, saddles,

and like there was a merry-go-round. Yeah. Mechanical bull? Yeah. There was, there was. Yeah, now it's a real cowboy bar. So you said that you were the one who actually went and approached him. Like, what did you, what did you do? How did that interaction happen? Well, here's the thing. I went next to him. So I wouldn't say that I kind of gave myself a little more credit. OK. You didn't want to look like you were too aggressive with it. Too thirsty.

Exactly. But it's a good move, right? Like somebody stand in the bar, you go stand directly next to them. I imagine you bumping into him by accident over and over. Oh, my shoulder keeps hitting him. Sorry. Well, that worked because we ended up talking

and here's the thing, I didn't know that a lot of people like to ride horses really until social media, you know? Like I thought it was more of a thing that like. Just you and your family does? I did, I thought it was more just my thing. Oh no. I thought it was a rich person thing. Wait, if you do it, oh, cause she does like probably, you know. I thought it was a rich person thing.

Wait, if you do it, oh, because she does like probably, you know. She's like an equestrian rider. Yeah, she's not a western style lady. So you're into horses and you didn't expect him to be also... Yeah, and so we got, we started talking and I brought up a story of when I was younger and it was going so well that he ended up spitting some of his drink out because I made him laugh so hard. Oh really?

Really? Hey, that's good. Yeah, it was just about, I brought up a story when I was younger, my favorite horse, he was like slower, he was older, and he was kind of chubby, but they called him Waffle Face. Waffle Face? Wait, they called him Waffle Face. Waffle Face?

They called him Waffle Face. That was the name of the horse? That was the name of the horse. Yeah. Oh, I love him. And that's what made him laugh so hard. Yeah. Must have had to been there. Yeah, I think so.

So you guys bonded over horses. That's cool. Yes. Yeah. And unfortunately, he said he had to go. So it was like 20 20 30 minutes of us talking But right before he left there was this Britney Spears song that came on You remember this song hit me baby, what was I? Started doing the dance and he started he followed me he was doing the same dance as I was doing it

That's an obvious sign of attraction when a guy is mirroring you that's a sign that he's actually into Did you check in with your friend Claire cuz Claire works with him right like that's how you guys all met Yeah, so here's the thing right before we left left I was brave enough to ask him for his number okay I was like it's not every day that someone dances like mirrors you dancing all right so you lassoed him up that's cool oh yes I did well let's hope because I this is where you guys come in I texted him a couple days after and he said he was busy, but that he wished that he could hang out. So I waited a couple of days after that.

And he never texted me back after I texted him again. Yeah. And so you brought up Claire and I asked her and she doesn't know. So it was a friend of a friend so his friend brought him yeah I see so it's not someone that works with her that she could okay well we have some information to work with here we're gonna play a song come back and call your horse-loving cowboy Zach oh I would love to hear are you joking me I just? I don't know. I don't want to dance. No, please. No.

I just want to see what this horse loving guy has to say when we ask for a second date. Is it going to be a yay or a nay? Ah, Jeffrey. Or maybe an oh, baby. It sounds funny as well. No. We'll do second date update next.

Second date update. Saddles for seats, boots for drinks, and a mechanical bowl that's been out of order for the last decade. Why are they always out of order? Sounds like every single country dive bar within a 10,000 mile radius that I just described there. But that's where one of our listeners went recently.

Her name is Amanda and she met a very well put together Good looking man named Zack while she was there The two of them vibed over horseback riding stories and even danced to an old Britney Spears song Like I said earlier this was an insta date It wasn't something that they had planned to meet up before him. They just ran into each other. So we don't know if Zach is technically even single or what's going on. That's what I was thinking.

He did. Yeah, but he texted her back that he was excited to see her. He said, like, I wish I could see you. Oh. And that could also mean no. I wish I could see you. It means I can't see you because I have a girlfriend. But why wouldn't he just see that?

Because dudes still like to be hit on? We're gonna call them and we're gonna see what he meant by that and Brooke you've been skeptical and bitter throughout most of this so far So what are your thoughts before we reach out to Zach? I mean, I just don't want you to be too invested Amanda You know, that's hopeful It's like what my mom taught me, you know, yeah, you have planned for the worst Hope for the best right? Household to grow Amanda how are you feeling you feel a little optimistic?

I I definitely am but like you guys said that has been something that Claire and I've been discussing and I mean it wouldn't put it past him because he seems I mean he's such a catch right like right well let's get some answers from horse loving cowboy Jack Zach oh you should be Jack though it's a much better it is a better cowboy all right here we go Dallas number right now Well, hey is this Zach Yeah, hey wait Jeff What how do you know that it's Jeffrey?

This is Jeff right? Yeah. Oh my god, what's up? Why are you calling me? I'm calling from a radio show. Brooke and Jeffery in the morning. Yeah, I know what you do. We talked about it one night. What?

What? Wait, you, Jeffery, now you're starting to freak me out. Are you joking? You don't know this guy? I know, I can't tell. We know each other? Uh-huh. Yeah, you know Zach from the this bar we met like a month ago Jeff why why are all these people on the line? What's up? Well, no, I know yeah

At work and we're we're doing something right now, you know That's how the show works. Okay, okay. So you're just doing your show? Yeah. That's so awkward. That's cool, man. That's really cool. We should hang again, you know? It was really fun last time. Nice.

Yeah. Why are you so red, Jeffrey? I don't know any you Zack Zack we need to talk to you about something else We do a segment called a second date update. Oh my god. You're so uncomfortable and there's brook stop it There's a girl named Amanda who reached out to us. She said that she met you at a happy hour the other night Okay, hi Zach oh that she met you at a happy hour the other night? Okay. Hi, Zach.

Oh. Yeah, so that's her. This is more of a business call, Zach. It's been a pleasure calling. It's not going how it normally goes. I'm telling you that right now. No, this is not how we normally do it. We're all confused.

You have one flustered host over there. Amanda. Several, I think. Amanda wanted our help to find out from you if you would be interested in seeing her. Okay, hold on. So you're saying Amanda called you to call me? Yeah, that's how this works. It's called a second date update.

So this is just like a random thing, that's the only reason you're calling? Yes, it's just for our listener Amanda, and not for anything else. I don't know, this is kind of new for me, but I felt like we had just great energy. I feel like we clicked. Remember, Zach, you guys talked about horses? At the country bar. At the country bar, and... Remember Waffle Face? Zach you guys talked about horses at the country bar the country bar and remember waffle face

Her favorite fat horse Yeah, yeah, I was just having a normal conversation Yeah, we got along great Amanda, but yeah, I mean What was wrong? Are you not attracted to Amanda? No, she's very beautiful. Oh, thank you. I'm really attracted to you too.

Oh, wow. She's just coming out and saying it. I like it. I don't know if That's what I said. Oh, wow. I know you're shy, Zach. I just figured maybe I could take the reins here and jump on and see.

You almost finished that. It's a little cowboy reference for you. Zach, how does that sound? I'm not shy. See, we have a lot in common. You love riding horses and so do I. We were dancing to Britney Spears. Yeah, yeah, you know, it's like...

I just love his responses. Yeah, yeah, you know, it's like you seem really cool and it's kind of like, you know, if, huh, you know, if I was if I really wanted, if I, I would have reached out or I would have found, you know, like, okay, man, you seem great. You're, you're not, you're not quite my type. Okay Yeah, Zach are you disappointed in this phone call Oh Greatly actually yeah Yeah, I did not see this coming this is all making sense now though it does make sense Explain, you know with just like the interest in horses and the Britney Spears dancing.

And I think you told me that like I can change my hair if I'm not like if this color is not OK for you. Like, I don't mind the fashion tips. That's yeah. OK. So that this isn't for you. In so many ways, yes. Okay. So like, Zach, is it just because you're not in the right spot or is that maybe... No, no honey. Let's go with that one.

Can I say that? I um... I don't know what to say. Just ask. You gotta finish it man. You gotta ask for the second date. That's what you do. I have to do my job over here.

Yeah, it's a friend date. Stop being weird. What we do on this segment, Zach, is we offer to send you and our listener out on another date. So that would be you and Amanda going out and we would pay for it. Yes. Zach, come on. It'll be a blast. I'll change what I wear. I just feel like our energy is too good to give up or to ignore. So please give me a second chance.

Zach, offers on the table. I think you need to be more blunt. Amanda Gurley, no. That alone is good. Don't change your hair for some guy. This isn't grease. I like him. this isn't grease We should probably stop talking you should hang out with Zach Moore So I just I'm sorry. Yeah, what? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. I

Will be expecting a phone call from you Okay, I'm ending this now. That's your second date update. Okay, no date. Definitely no date with them. We're out of here. Bye. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Forty-five years ago, a Virginia soul band called The Edge of Daybreak

recorded their debut album Behind Bars. Record collectors consider it a masterpiece. The band's surviving members are long out of prison, but they say they have some unfinished business. The end of Daybreak, Eyes of Love was supposed to have been followed up by another album. Listen to Soul Incarcerated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Dressing. Dressing. Oh, French dressing. Exactly. I'm AJ Jacobs and my current obsession is puzzles. And that has given birth to my podcast, The Puzzler. Something about Mary Poppins? Exactly. This is fun. You can get your daily puzzle nuggets delivered straight to your ears. Listen to The Puzzler every day on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Bob Pippman, Chairman and CEO of iHeart Media. I'm excited to introduce a brand new season of my podcast, Math and Magic, Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing. I'm having conversations with some folks across a wide range of industries to hear how they

reach the top of their fields and the lessons they learned along the way that everyone can use. I'll be joined by innovative leaders like Chairman and CEO of Elf Beauty, Tarang Amin. Legendary singer-songwriter and philanthropist, Jewel. Being a rock star is very fun, but helping people is way more fun. And Damian Maldonado, CEO of American Financing. I figured out the formula, you just have to work hard, then that's magic. Join me as we uncover innovations in data and analytics, the math, and the ever-important creative spark, the magic.

Listen to Math and Magic on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. My name is Brendan Patrick Hughes, host of Divine Intervention. This is a story about radical nuns in combat boots and wild-haired priests trading blows with J. Edgar Hoover in a hell-bent effort to sabotage a war. J. Edgar Hoover was furious. He was out of his mind, and he wanted to bring the Catholic left to its knees. Listen to Divine Intervention on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm ready to fight. Oh, this is fighting words. Okay. I'll put the hammer back.

Hi, I'm George M. Johnson, a bestselling author with the second most banned book in America. Now more than ever, we need to use our voices to fight back. Part of the power of black queer creativity is the fact that we got us, you know? We are the greatest culture makers in world history. Listen to Fighting Words on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.